1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: On this edition of Magic Podsquad, we catch up with 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Orlando Magic traveling Secretary and Senior director of Team Operations, 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Rodney Powell, You've been here since day one, and myself 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: George Galante, Jeff Turner. We recamp what has been a 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: busy couple of months for this Orlando Magic organization and 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: get into the Shaquille O'Neal number of retirements, our thoughts 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: on that and why that is absolutely a terrific move 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: for the organization. Polo ban Carrol, we feel definitely headed 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: to his first All Star Game in Indianapolis and also 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: a first half of the season recamp coming your way 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: here on this edition of Magic Podsquad, and of course, Podsquad, 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Board of Department of Transportation, 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: reminds you that fans don't let fans drive drunk. If 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: you've been drinking, don't get behind the wheel. Instead, find 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: a sober driver or cat your ride service. Remember, drive 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: sober or get pulled over, Have a great night and 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: drive safe. Plenty of shack stories with Jeff Turner and 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Rodney on this edition of Magic pod Squad. This is 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 1: Fawns long enough to Orlando Magic. 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 2: This is Cole Anthony. This is Jenny Suggs. 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: This is Paulo man Carroll the Orlando Magic and you're 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: listening to the Pod Squad. 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: And welcome everyone to another edition of Magic Pod Squad. 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Dante Marcatelli, Jeff Turner, George Galatee and to Orlando Magic. 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Senior Director, President, Vice President of Team Operations and all 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: Things travel. How many how many titles do you have 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: in your name? 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: Sit? 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: One one, Tyler, which was the one that I get 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: paid for. What there you go? 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Senior Director of Team Operations, Traveling Secretary Rodney Powell, better 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: known as Sid, joining us here on this trip. You know, 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: if we told the story, how did you get the 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: nickname Sid? 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Sid? Sid came from When I was in junior high 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: I played basketball and I was a big fan of 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: Sidney Moncrief at the time. Okay, and somehow, I mean, 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: I know, I never jumped like Sidney mont Creef. But 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: what were there similarities in your game? Is that how 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: you Well, yeah, yeah, I could shoot, but I couldn't 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: jump like him. And somebody I wore his number and 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: somehow I I got stuck with. That's what Sid. He 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: was at Arkansas. I think good Mine. 45 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: Creef had a great post up game. 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: Sid I did not have that. 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 4: I like how on everything like Credentials, media Guide, everywhere, 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: like everything is listed as Rodney quote Sid unquote Powell. 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: That's my favorite because like could just go Sid Powell SID. 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: SID is not all my birth certificate, so i'd match, 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: or your driver's life SiGe. 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: You've got a city hall and get that ship. 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Rodney Powell is what gets you on the planes exactly 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: what's what's on the license? Well, lots to get to 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: here on the On this edition, the big news with 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neal is a number being retired Polo ban Carro, 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: who we all feel will be an All Star and 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: feel like that's a lock for the coaches to vote 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: him in, but fans still need to do their job 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: and and we'll do our kind of first half of 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: the season update. But I think the news come out 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, and Alex Martins did a 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: great job on TNT announcing that Shaquille O'Neil would have 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: his number, thirty two would be the first number going 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: into the rafters. And like my dad always said, you 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: know you you hand out gold bars. Somebody wants silver, right, 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: So there's always fans that aren't gonna like that, right fans, 68 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: But for the most part, everybody understands it and overly 69 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: or the overwhelming majority is that that's the great that's 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. It's the right move. He 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: needs to be the first number to go into the rafters. 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody can explain that better 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: than you, Sid and jt on Shack. What he meant 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: to this organization first, just putting this team on the map, right, 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: getting a guy like Shaquille. 76 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: That was the biggest thing when he came this is 77 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: that's one of this whole places you know, got headed 78 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: in the right direction when he came on board, and 79 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: things got going the right way, and we were on 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: a roll for what four years? Five years? Yeah? 81 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the big thing for me is that 82 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: people need to remember is so we were an expansion 83 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: team for three years. We played like an expansion team, 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: and we were so bad that third year that we 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: overwhelmingly got the first pick in the draft and we 86 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: brought in Shaquille O'Neill and really kept the same team. 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it was the same group of guys. You know, 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: Nick Anderson was already here, Dennis Scott, we had Scott Skiles, 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: you know, we had you know, Terry Catlidge, and we 90 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: had basically the same crew. And we went from that 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: very poor expansion team to a team the very next 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: year wished to quill competing for a playoffs spot. And 93 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: you know, based on like it went down to the 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: fourth tiebreaker, I think that we didn't make the playoffs. 95 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: But you look around, you go back through time, you know, 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: and see a first round draft pick that helped the 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: team improve by twenty games and make them. As Sid said, 98 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: everything changed, Uh yes, did you could speak? It changed 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: from our travel means too. You go, we went to 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: a charter plane. Then the ownership got a chart plane 101 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: for us. I mean that was all broughtle. 102 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: The hotels were all different, hotels were top notch. We 103 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: were like a traveling road show, a traveling circus. So 104 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: I was so because we hear that, we hear those stories. 105 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: How you you see people outside our hotels. Now we 106 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: may have what maybe fifteen twenty people. 107 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: Half of them are asking for you. Yeah that is 108 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: that's fact. 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: But back then, I mean we would come in at 110 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: two in the morning in some of these cities and 111 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: there's people just lined up outside waiting to see Shaft 112 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: in the in the well. 113 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: I'm not exaggerate when I say one hundred people, Yeah, 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: one hundred. 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was right. 116 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: I remember that sid that night we were we were 117 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: into San Antonio and it was late. 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because he was from San Antonio and at 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: that west and there was people on that sidewalk to go. 120 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: It was terra. I mean, yeah, those were I mean 121 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: that's all because of him. 122 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: And it's just to see him too, by the way, 123 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: because odds. 124 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: Are half of him that they were. He wouldn't sign 125 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: him many ars. 126 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: The odds are he's just going from the bus right 127 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: into the lobby. 128 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: So it's interesting you you just said that people will 129 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: ask me. He still asked me for my autograph, and 130 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: so they'll have cards and everything. So then then San Antonio, 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: long line of people. We're getting off the bus, getting 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: off the bus. Some guy yells out Jeff Turner, Jeff Turner. 133 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: So I walk over to the line and the guy says, hey, Jeff, 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: He's like, anyway you can get Shack's autograph for me. 135 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: That's what it was. 136 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: It's a good try. 137 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 4: Though, that is a good try. 138 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: And why do you wear disguises? Like tell us some 139 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: of your favorite Shack stories from back then. It could 140 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: be from traveling or I know, you guys buy up 141 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: to relationship. 142 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: I just remember he's he's the same way as now 143 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: he was then. He's a big kid, a big cut 144 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: up all the joke sir, prankster. And I mean it's 145 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: like when you watch him on TV now with him 146 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: and Charles cut Up on stage were on the set. 147 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: But just some of the things that he would do 148 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: on the plane when they would have pillow fights with 149 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: him and then and then they would get Brooks Thompson 150 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: rest in peace Brooks and beat him up with pillows 151 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: because he was the bed. Like you know, they had 152 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: a couch on the and Shaq and Jack had the couch. 153 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: But he would make Brooks sit beside him. He'd beat 154 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: him with the pillows. Just little things that I mean. 155 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: He was a big cut big kid, just like he 156 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: is now. 157 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: He wore a he wore a well he's probably seen 158 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: different times he would like wear wigs and get off 159 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: the plane like some people. I don't know how he 160 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: felt like them anyway. 161 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: But in reference those couches. Now, those were the couches 162 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: that six of us would. 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Fit on in back right one. 164 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: Back then it was just Dennis and Shock Brooks if 165 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: they needed Brooks. 166 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: That's what do we call it? The nuts and bolts 167 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: won the first thing. The person with Skoles referred to 168 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: it as nuts and bolts won. 169 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: But you were but so Sid you were the equipment 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: manager back then. Obviously Jeff you played with them. And 171 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like by all accounts that he was. He 172 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: We see what he does now for the communities right 173 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: for for Orlando, for Central Florida, everywhere he went. He's 174 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: buying bikes for people. He buying cars for people, bought 175 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: a wedding ring for Did that start? Like, when did 176 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: that all start? 177 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: Did you see any of that? Usually do that? When 178 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: he would say we were leaving for a trip and 179 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: he's come to the airport at a red light. If 180 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: he saw some guy you know, or what do you 181 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: call a panhandler now or what, sure he would take 182 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: care of him. He'd give him a hundred bucks. That 183 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he was very giving back then. So I 184 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: mean he's never changed when it came to that stuff. 185 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: You know, what I always thought was interesting is like, 186 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: you know, like a lot of celebrities, you know, and 187 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: you can't miss Shack, right, he wasn't afraid. Like Shack 188 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: would just go to the mall. No, yeah, like and 189 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: just you know walk around. People knew who he was 190 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So it like those stories don't 191 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: surprise us. 192 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 2: Back then, we didn't have security like they do now. Yeah. 193 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, right right, I mean George has security now 194 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: for yeah, yeah, I mean. 195 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: It gets gets a little bit much. 196 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 2: I mean I don't think our first year few years 197 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 2: with Shack we had security. 198 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: No, but we started you know, it's right, yeah, it 199 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: really was like you know, I always kid people. I 200 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: was like we were It's like chiming with the rolling stones, 201 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 3: you know. It's like, I mean wherever we showed up, 202 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: I mean we had people. You know, this was you 203 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: know obviously back before nine to eleven and everything, people 204 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: would tail the bus going to the airport and would 205 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: go through the gate out onto the tarmac to try 206 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: to get to the to the airplane just to get 207 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: a glimpse. It was, you know, so that when when 208 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: people like if they have reservations about Shacks number being retired, 209 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: you know, I for me, it's like as a player, 210 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: everything changed, just like we talked about and everything, and 211 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: yeah there were you know, like the way it ended 212 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: wasn't great. The when he you know, when he left. 213 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: I always remind people, though John Gabriel tells a story, 214 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: it was the only year there was a there was 215 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: some negotiation, was the only year there where there was 216 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: no restricted free agency, so there was nothing really we 217 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: could do. I know, it really was with the with 218 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,119 Speaker 3: the most dominant player in the history of the franchise, 219 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: in my opinion, we had no recourse and it didn't 220 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: go well and in the end, but does it ever 221 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: does when a great player. I'm sure when they traded 222 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: him from LA that wasn't good either, right, So I 223 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 3: always encourage people just think about in those four years, 224 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: what happened on the court and what he did, how 225 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: quickly we went to the NBA finals. Had Michael Jordan 226 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: not come back right in ninety five ninety six, who knows? 227 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: We were just the way us then? Yes we were. 228 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: We could have bat on TV, you know. 229 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I always and it's already been said 230 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: twice here and nobody really knows it. There's been many 231 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: times where we've been in discussion since the announcement with 232 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: various people, whether it's a reporter, whether it's staff, friends, 233 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: whatever else, and it always comes back to the answer 234 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: of well, it's Shack, It's Shack. Yes, there is going 235 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: to be no player. Listen, we all have talked many 236 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: times about the quote unquote Mount Rushmore of the Magic right, Shack, Penny, Dwight, Tracy. 237 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: There's no argument that those are clearly the four best 238 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: players ever to wear a Magic uniform. 239 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: Right. 240 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: However, there will be none of those other guys will 241 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: move the needle no matter what needle you're talking about, 242 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: whether it's on court, media, fan reaction, anything. There is 243 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: not in the country, in the world. There is nobody 244 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: that's going to move that needle the way Shaq moves 245 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: the needle. And that's why, to me, it's a no 246 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: brain decision that Shack has to be first. And we've 247 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: been asking for this. You know, there's a there's a 248 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: board that you know that recommends for Magic Hall of 249 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: Fame and that type of thing recognitions that we've asked 250 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: for Shack for. This isn't just a decision that was 251 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: made last week. You know, this has been this has 252 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: been a long time coming, and I just think the organization, 253 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, it's finally the right time. And it 254 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: doesn't matter when the time is, you know, you wish 255 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: it could have been. I don't think maybe if you 256 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: would have done this ten years ago, maybe you wouldn't 257 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: have the reaction you do now. You know, we've we've 258 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: had this history of you know, bitter breakups and then 259 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 4: the breakup stings for a really long time. Well, like 260 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: we can, we can get into a habit now of 261 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: shortening that window. And you know this, there's no doubt 262 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: that this guy was the reason that the Magic were 263 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: on the map period. There's no argument. 264 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 3: Great point, we don't talk about we don't really talk 265 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: about two of the other expansion teams that much. You know, 266 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: Minnesota and that's Armless and that's the other thing, right, 267 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: Miami has obviously had great success, but we did it first, 268 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: you know, with with Shaquille o'neils, so we had that 269 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: quick success. So yeah, I don't think there's any any doubt. 270 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: We go to all these arenas and you see all 271 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: the banners that are up in the rafters, right, so 272 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: now there will be two organizations that have never retired 273 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: a Jersey there's. 274 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: Just tooers clippers and slippers and rafts ers. 275 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: She'll be the only two that have never retired to you, 276 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: and maybe that's coming. There was pressure on them to 277 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: try to put someone. 278 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: You saw the next day after Shack was announced the 279 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: social media for those two teams. Yes, random knocking off 280 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: players who they would think would they could retire. 281 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: What do you think it means to Shack? What do 282 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: you think it means to him to be first to 283 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: be recognized this way on to write to. 284 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: Be I think he's I mean, have you talked to him? 285 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: I have not talked to him. Come see, I have 286 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: not talked to him. Just I mean I saw, I 287 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: saw his expression went on TV when he was was announced, 288 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: and I think he was shocked a little. But you 289 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: know he's made comments before that. You know what, he 290 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: did a video where yeah for the call. Yeah, So 291 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean for him to finally get it, I think 292 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: he was very you know, excited, and but his reaction 293 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: was what I like, just like, wow, this is an 294 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: honor and h well deserving. So I mean, I think 295 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: we're we're doing the right thing. 296 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Well, and then you have success, so now the team's winning, 297 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: So how did that change from how what you saw 298 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: against opposing teams. Right now you're having all time battles 299 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: in some of the great centers of all time are 300 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: in the league, going against Shaquille O'Neil, right, and he 301 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: and and he was ready. There were certain centers that 302 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: he disliked more than others. From what it sounds like, yeah, right, 303 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: but now now you're starting having success and. 304 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: You go to the finals. But just ended an honor 305 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: for him, like to be the first player. Don't be 306 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: three in three cities for sure, no question. I mean, 307 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: no one else has done that. 308 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: Will Chamberlain, they said, I think is three? Is that true? 309 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: With the Trotters, with the glow Trotters? 310 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: Well that because yeah, so then he is? 311 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Is he not? Is he not? 312 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: The war was the Warriors sixers, and I guess that's it, right, 313 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: that's all he played for is so he'll. 314 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: Be the first. But I don't. 315 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: But I well Lakers or Lakers too, right, So well, 316 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: I thinks Will does have it. 317 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: But to have that guy connected to your organization, those 318 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: only only be can only be great things. And again 319 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of fans, everybody understands it and loves it, 320 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: right like we all do, and we understand it. But 321 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: he brought success. Your first taste of success came on 322 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: his shoulders. 323 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess let me just say, like the 324 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: thing about him and you if you followed through his career, 325 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: you know, at other places too, Shaquille O'Neil was the 326 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: mark of a great player. Do you make your teammates better? 327 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: And you know, like again I go back to we 328 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: were the same guy. He's right, that won twenty games 329 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: or whatever it was twenty one, what did we win 330 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: forty one year? 331 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: Forty one? 332 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: Right, Like we brought us in and he made us 333 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: all better, you know, like I shot the ball a 334 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: little bit better, which I had more room to shoot. 335 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: Dennis had more room. You know, Nick Anderson turned became 336 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: a three point shooter because you know, there was so 337 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: much attention on the big fella, and so you know, 338 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: that's for me, is a big part of it. 339 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: And for those that's he's only here four years, he's 340 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: still in the top ten in how many different categories. 341 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: And those four years are arguably the four greatest years, 342 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: you know, among the greatest years in the history of 343 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 4: the franchise. So also there's an interesting conversation that we 344 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: had on the bus one time because we were talking 345 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: about I don't remember. We were talking about the possibility 346 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: that it would happen, and Jeff, I thought, made a 347 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: great point where he said, if you look down the future, 348 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 4: you know. Tracy McGrady was such an enormous fan of 349 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: the Magic when he was a kid, right, which made 350 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: him want to come to the Magic in whenever he 351 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 4: came two thousand and three or two thousand. Well, the 352 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: reason he was a fan of the Magic was because 353 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 4: of Shack. That was the reason. It was because of 354 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: ability well and Penny. Not to not to discount what 355 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: Penny did. It's because of that team and that era 356 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: and that era, you know, and Penny has a large 357 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: part to do with the success. But Shack was the 358 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: straw that stirred the drink, and so like it. It 359 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: has such a wave of influence on the team. Again, 360 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: I would just say anybody that argues the other way, 361 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: I think all they have to do is listen to 362 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: the last fifteen to twenty minutes of us talking, and 363 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: that should should persuade. 364 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: Nobody goes on TNT soon This could happen to he 365 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: goes on TNT every night and says, I love what 366 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: happened down there and that I mean he can have 367 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: influence on free agents too. Is when that time comes. 368 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: Because it's Shack, Because answer goes back to because it's 369 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: Shack every time Shack. 370 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: And here's where I would segue, because it's Paulo. I 371 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: think that is coming. I think they are seeing that right. 372 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: Shaq was an All Star each of his four years, 373 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: and we fully expect and anticipate and would be. It 374 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: would be a crying shame if Poulo was not an 375 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: All Star this year with what he's done. But how 376 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: about your interactions with Polo? 377 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: He seems to be. 378 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: He seems to be heading in that. 379 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: Direction as well. Pylo's got, He's got, I mean his 380 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: drive for the game. I mean for a young guy 381 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: like him, and we all we all see him play, 382 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: so we know what he can do. And I think 383 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: I just think this year would be the the way 384 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: he's played and produced. I think he should be a 385 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: shoe in as an All Star, no question. 386 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: And don't we could catch you judge it by don't 387 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: you don't the requests start getting bigger guys. 388 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: Like the same. I mean, it's the same path as shotgun. 389 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: He's kind of like he's our face of the team, 390 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: absolutely everything. And when people talk about the magic, ite'ts 391 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: palow So I mean, and he deals with it the 392 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: same way. I mean, you deal. He's a great guy, 393 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: great kid. I kind of a kid, but uh, just 394 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: the way he could be your kid. The way he 395 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: handles We have kids older than him. I don't like 396 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: to go so but he just the way he handles himself. Sure, yeah, 397 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: and I mean I know it's just the beginning, but 398 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: he's very professional now and and things are just going 399 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: up for him. 400 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: Well, and we've been there's no denying we've been in 401 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: in the wilderness for nine ten years, right, and this 402 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: is the guy that's bringing us out of it, him 403 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: and Odds and the rest of this group. But he's 404 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: the guy that's on the top of that scout of 405 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: report night in and night out, and with Franz out 406 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: Consecutive games of forty points, consecutive games of forty minutes. 407 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: I mean, and I thought to me, to me, nothing 408 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: personified all of this better than you're down twenty against Minnesota, 409 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: and coach Moseley says, you know you can. You've played 410 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: three straight games of forty minutes. It's fine for you 411 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: to come out. Yeah, I'm good. I want to finish 412 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: this right, And they made a little run, try to 413 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: get back into The guy wants to play. 414 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: The guy wants to win. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. 415 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: You know, he's he's got the skill set to be, 416 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: you know, an all time scorer. He does so many things. 417 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 3: But again I go back to kind of what we're 418 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: talking about Shaq, Like you think about his rookie year, right, 419 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: like what was the improvement of games? You know, like 420 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 3: that's important, Like he he he tips the needle, you know, 421 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: going towards winning, and he makes people around him better 422 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: because of the attention that he draws. And you know, 423 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: he is so young. You know, Chack came into the 424 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: league already at twenty one years of old. Yeah, Pollows 425 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: just in his second year, just turned that age. So 426 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: you know that that you know, the rise we're going 427 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: to see it really is incredible what he's done so far. 428 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I think you had a 429 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 3: little graphic the other night of his month to month 430 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: improvement just this season, and it's just incredible the way 431 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: his game is ticking up. And you know, we get 432 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: to watch it, you know, every night he's not facing 433 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: single coverage right like their teams are gearing their defenses 434 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 3: to stop pollow right now. So that's uh, that says 435 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 3: a lot. 436 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: The thing from from my perspective is now, I think 437 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 4: we've talked about it when we've we've caught up with 438 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: Tracy McGrady later and you realize that the number you know, 439 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: you don't really when you're in it, that the numbers 440 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: and things that he's putting up is so historical and 441 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: astronomic until you know you've stepped back now twenty years 442 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 4: later and you're like, holy crap, that guy had like 443 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: fourteen forty point games. Well, from my perspective, I'm now 444 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 4: having to look up things for Pallo already, you know, 445 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 4: one and a half years into the NBA where okay, 446 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 4: we're on the same spreadsheet as Lebron Tracy, I'm on it. 447 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: Like the names and the and the things that he's 448 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: doing in a historical capacity. From my perspective is like, well, 449 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 4: holy crap, I didn't I didn't realize that. Like, well, 450 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: holy crap, I didn't realize that either. You know, like 451 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 4: they just keep coming and coming and coming so you know, 452 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: he may not get in with the fan vote because 453 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: it's probably you know, as much as we still want 454 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 4: everybody to get out there and get on their app 455 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: and vote for Pallo and every day and the triple 456 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: days and all that, it. 457 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: Will make it close. 458 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: Because the return he's already now, he's already jumped. I 459 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: think he almost doubled his votes in a week here 460 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: since you know, since last week returns came out and 461 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: then the ones who just came out today on Thursday. 462 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 4: So he's going to continue to climb there. Again. I 463 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: don't know if he's going to get into that top 464 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 4: two because he's so far behind. But if the magic 465 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: can still stay, you know, in this top you know, 466 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: we all we all know that three through nine now 467 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: is you know, such so tight, and they change, you know, 468 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: one day we're fourth, next day we're seventh, Like next 469 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: day we're fifth. These things are changing all the time. 470 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 4: If we can stay in that conversation for the next 471 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: few weeks and still be in there, I I sometimes 472 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: think that means more when the coaches put you in there. 473 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: Well, just the way it's the way he's recognized by 474 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: his spears. Yeah, I mean you hear Lebron talking about him. 475 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: You hear Janni is talking. I mean everybody knows that's 476 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: noticed him, So that helps tremendously. 477 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 4: I mean you're in the locker rooms, right, I mean 478 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: that means a ton. 479 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: You hear the players talking. I mean even his own teammates. 480 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: I mean, just like the other night he got his 481 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: first triple double. It's like these guys are all like 482 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: young fans of here, like, hey, can I get your 483 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: jersey jersey tonight? 484 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: Well see, and then there you go, that's that teammates. 485 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: But that's his teammates. But that's it. 486 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: But you saw that sid in the there's something. There's 487 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: a locker room dynamic when it's a Shack a Dwight, yeah, 488 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: a t mac penny and Apollo not. 489 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: These guys are videoing him holding the book game ball. 490 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 2: It's like he didn't know what to do with the ball. 491 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: And the guys, I mean, you got guys you yelling 492 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: across eight, I want your jersey tonight. And he's just 493 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: looking at him like why right, we don't. Well we're 494 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: seeings off that we're not. That's what. 495 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think he's there. I mean he's there, 496 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: and I. 497 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: Want then to say, hey, I want his I want 498 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: his jersey. Are you seeing that guys are coming to 499 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: the locker room asking from the other thing? They're all 500 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: coming asking for his jersey. Amazing. 501 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: His rook Kevin Durant, told him about the free throw 502 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: line and why I got to get that jersey after 503 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: the game. So the last thing we'll throw out there 504 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: because at the end of this road triple be at 505 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: the midway point of the season, and I think we 506 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: can all agree there is a much different feeling this 507 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: year it was last year. Even though we've been decipated 508 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: with injuries lately, we've been hit, We've been hit hard, 509 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: and we're going through the hardest stretch of our schedule. 510 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: But if we can come out of this still with 511 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: somewhat of a cushion or as you know, maybe around 512 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: five hundred or as much of a cushion as possible, 513 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. The schedule is going to soften 514 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: at some point and you're gonna get healthy and you 515 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: have very good possibility of being a playoff team and 516 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: maybe as high as maybe high enough to avoid any 517 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: kind of play in scenario. 518 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: Well that I think that's got to be the goal now. 519 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 2: Right. 520 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: Like when we first started this thing, based on what 521 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: we did last year, it was kind of like, okay, 522 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: well the next step is to just to we've got 523 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 3: to be competing for a play in spot and everything, 524 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: well that's off the. 525 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: Table now in my you know, now, I don't think 526 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: we're going to be shoot for six. 527 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: Or better exactly right, right, Like you want to go 528 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: to play in, you want to get a spot, and 529 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 3: you know you're right. Health is always a factor. And 530 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: we've got a little glitch in the schedule. You know 531 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: where we're going. We're down some guys through a tough part. 532 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: And the other part of it is when you start 533 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: winning now people don't take you, you know, like look at 534 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: Orlando and say, well there's a win on the schedule, 535 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: all right, rest some guys. Everything we're seeing teams at 536 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: full speed. Uh, and so you know that that changes 537 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: things too. 538 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: But I think you're right. 539 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 3: I think we get through this trip and hold our 540 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: heads above water. 541 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 2: And it comes once we get through All Star break. Yeah, 542 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: long trip up the first February, got that big all 543 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: stand right and March. 544 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: Funny guys keep saying that though, because I saw a 545 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: quote last night from Jason Tatum after they played Minnesota. 546 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: Okay, similar to us. 547 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 4: Because every graphic you see has us in Boston having 548 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: the quote unquote easiest schedule remaining right, and then Jason 549 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: Tatum last night and I felt the exact same way 550 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: about the Magic. So it's like, yeah, let me know 551 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: when that ish starts, you know, And I'm like, yeah, 552 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: like no, kidd is, like I keep looking at our 553 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 4: schedule and you're you're waiting for the you know. And 554 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: that also says a lot about the parody of the 555 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 4: NBA right now too. There's a lot better teams than 556 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: there then maybe people thought there were, but yeah, I'm 557 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: looking at the schedule and going, well, yeah, when's that 558 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 4: fighting up for us? But the good news is is 559 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 4: hopefully knock on woo, hopefully on this road trip that 560 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: we're about to embark on here, you know, I think 561 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: you may start seeing some people getting back on the 562 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 4: floor that we've been. 563 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: We'll see when that's schedule. 564 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: You've been scheduling these trips since day one when this 565 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: schedule came out, had you seen one like this? 566 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: No? I mean, like we saw the beginning of the year. 567 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: We took that first West Coast as the first time 568 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: in my thirty five years, i'd ever gone out west 569 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: in October in October, so it was it was nice 570 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: to get to La over with. But yeah, we're sure, 571 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: but that was our first time ever doing that. Yeah, 572 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: and all the trips are long like this one too. 573 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: One is this one seven days one of February's ten days, So. 574 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: When's this ish gonna light up? I noticed you took 575 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: this one and not the ten Day one Jewels jewel 576 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 4: as a ten day one. 577 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: All right, well, sid we appreciate it, guys. 578 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: The good luck rest of the away and we'll see 579 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: where this takes us, hopefully six or better here on knees. 580 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of Magic Pod Squad