WEBVTT - Joe Tryon-Shoyinka's Defensive Impact & Potential Depth Signings | Bucs Insider

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<v Speaker 1>our live video. Um, yep, this is incredible. I opened

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<v Speaker 1>it and literally we're talking, like seconds into the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we have people messaging us about Stephon Gilmar. So well, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and start with our whole DV injury

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<v Speaker 1>situation and is signing another person? Like? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think about how last Wednesday we just found out

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<v Speaker 1>we'd signed Richard Sherman and now he's already played like

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<v Speaker 1>a full game made. I mean we saw first tackle

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<v Speaker 1>the game like, oh, well, yep, he's gonna be doing

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<v Speaker 1>some things. So now looking at the Richard Sherman contributions,

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<v Speaker 1>is their chance they sign another person? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the dB situation is? Overall? The floor is yours, sir, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if the floors mind, the first thing I like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>is I really like your pumpkin? Thank you? I'm manifesting

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<v Speaker 1>fall and no joke, I'm also drinking coffee out of

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<v Speaker 1>this there you go. I just like, yeah it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has pumpkin spice creamer in it, because full full,

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<v Speaker 1>basic white girl this morning. Obviously, I hope I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>intruding on your on your coffee with Carmen and Casey. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we just did that. Yeah, We're good. We just did that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm just pretending it's not ninety degrees outside

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's fall. So yes, carry on. So Stephan Gilmour,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yes, of course. The moment he's cut, surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say by the Patriots, the first thing everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say is is he going to Tampa? And I

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<v Speaker 1>can't blame anybody for thinking or asking that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems crazy, but after the last eighteen months, with

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<v Speaker 1>the way that Jason Light has handled this roster and

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<v Speaker 1>taken advantage of opportunities like that, you absolutely cannot count

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<v Speaker 1>it out. You can't. Yeah, I think at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime anyone gets cut, I think people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to the Buccaneers, And it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>funny that how that has happened in this last you know,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen months, that that is now the storyline of any

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<v Speaker 1>individual gets cut or any individual becomes available or unretires

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<v Speaker 1>or what are even retires and everybody's like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is it, and you can joke about it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that Jason has signed in their thirties, virtually every

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<v Speaker 1>one of them has worked out. I mean Gronkowski and

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<v Speaker 1>well for nets nine his sthorties, but uh, Antonio Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we could go on and on and they've

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<v Speaker 1>worked out. So, like I said, it's not crazy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like the idea, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think we have about two million two

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<v Speaker 1>mini left and cap space right now, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there's always ways to make more. And Jason light has

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<v Speaker 1>treated this last two seasons like this is an open

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<v Speaker 1>window to win championships and I'm gonna leave no stone

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<v Speaker 1>unturned if it can help this team. And obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks have a need at corner back right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>and to get to Richard Sherman. He played in the

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<v Speaker 1>game four days after signing with the Buccaneers after about

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<v Speaker 1>three practices, you know, and two of those are learning

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<v Speaker 1>and one of those his review on Friday, so he

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<v Speaker 1>had about two days to learn the defense. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily a defense he was familiar with, which

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<v Speaker 1>would be probably a little bit different when Stephon Gilmore

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<v Speaker 1>because I think there's some overlap in the defensive schemes there. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he they wouldn't. You said he made

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<v Speaker 1>the first tack on the game, because they went right

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<v Speaker 1>at him immediately. I think the first two passes went

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<v Speaker 1>right at him. They threw to his side a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>as you would do to a guy no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>his pedigree is, which is awesome for Richard Sherman. You

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<v Speaker 1>would do that to a guy that just learned the

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<v Speaker 1>defense and his starting four days after signing with the team.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I mean they completed some passes on

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<v Speaker 1>his side, but overall, the Buccaneers only allowed seventeen points

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<v Speaker 1>with a secondary that was completely beat up. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a pretty good job I all involved. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved the Bruce Arians talked about that at his

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<v Speaker 1>press conference. That, Um, I mean, what Richard Sherman was

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<v Speaker 1>asked to do is insane. It's just flat out insane

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<v Speaker 1>from both a physical and mental standpoint. Where he has

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<v Speaker 1>not been in football shape for well, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>how hard you work out in the off season. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>talks about how there's just no way to replicate being

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<v Speaker 1>in a game, and so to go from not playing

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<v Speaker 1>for all this time and then be playing fifty plus

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<v Speaker 1>snaps three days later, Yeah, it's it's nuts. And so

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<v Speaker 1>just from a physical standpoint, that is incredible. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the mental side of yeah, like three days here learn

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<v Speaker 1>a whole defense and it's not like Todd Bowls is

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<v Speaker 1>known for having the most simplistic defense in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm blown away by what he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and so I'm very optimistic about it. That

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<v Speaker 1>was him after three days. Imagine this next week, Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's still more problems there because we were already

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<v Speaker 1>thin going into that game, and then Carlton Davis got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get the impression that that's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days kind of thing, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a very good chance he's out to

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<v Speaker 1>this next game. They're hoping Jim Ldean can come back,

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<v Speaker 1>but by the end of last week he couldn't cut

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<v Speaker 1>off of that knee. Hopefully it will be better this week.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a possibility that all three of the corners

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<v Speaker 1>you started the season with, your three starters if you

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<v Speaker 1>include the slot corner, are out for at least one

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<v Speaker 1>more game, maybe more. And it's just that's why we're

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<v Speaker 1>relying on guys like Richard Sherman and Pierre Days year.

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<v Speaker 1>He really only got here on sept also and has

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<v Speaker 1>been on the practice squad. Richard Robinson, he's on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad but has been called up the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of games. Hasn't gotten in on defense yet, but coach

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<v Speaker 1>Arians didn't mention him as a possibility. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's injury. Every team has to deal with injuries. Every

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<v Speaker 1>team in the NFL, every season has to deal with injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>and overall, the Buccaneers were pretty lucky with in that

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<v Speaker 1>regard on the way of the Super Bowl last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But what what the problem is, and we've discussed this

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<v Speaker 1>before because it happened in the years before two, is

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a rash of them at the same position,

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<v Speaker 1>and that really can put you in a bind, not

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<v Speaker 1>only in terms of trying to solve that position, but

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<v Speaker 1>also you have to take away from other positions to

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<v Speaker 1>add more guys to the roster, like we had to

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<v Speaker 1>cut Khalil Davis as an example to bring Pierre Day

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<v Speaker 1>zero up, and then Khalil Davis was claimed. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that's an absolute tragedy. He's only played two games

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<v Speaker 1>for US since we drafted him in the sixth round.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously there was something about Khalil Davis that we

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<v Speaker 1>liked to keep him around all this time, even if

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't playing. So that's the kind of problems that

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<v Speaker 1>injuries at a rash of injuries at a certain position cause.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's also opportunities for guys like Richard Sherman

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<v Speaker 1>and Pierre Dasier and who knows, maybe Stephan Gilmore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know Antoine Winfield. We still don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what his right and what I think is interesting, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is, Yeah, all these other injuries have been corner

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're having guys like Ross Cockerell who can

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<v Speaker 1>play both those different positions, or Mike or that you

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<v Speaker 1>do pull sometimes those those corners and safeties, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you try to fill some of those holes. As guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are able to play multiple positions. Well, now you've

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<v Speaker 1>also maybe lost to safety, and again we still dont him.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he'll be able to clear protocol before next week. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but now that injury throws a whole other mix into

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<v Speaker 1>things with the options of moving guys around there. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you agree? Yeah, that's true. And um, as

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<v Speaker 1>an example, you throughout Ross Cockrell throughout training camp, he

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<v Speaker 1>learned to play safety and did very well there, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you went into the season thinking, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 1>our guy that we can kind of speckle over any

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<v Speaker 1>one little injury at either spot. But then Sean murfy

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<v Speaker 1>Bunding goes down in week one, and now Ross Cockerell

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<v Speaker 1>is basically your slack corner and so you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>him as an option at safety. And when anton Antoine

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<v Speaker 1>Winfield goes down, now you basically have Andrew Adams as

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<v Speaker 1>because Mike Edwards steps into the starting spot. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Adams, who we all trust. He's been great for

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<v Speaker 1>us the last couple of years whenever he's had to

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<v Speaker 1>step in. But again, you're thin at that spot, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't use Mike Edwards in the slot as another example,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's playing safety. So the whole thing, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>secondary is so thin and hopefully This is a temporary

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<v Speaker 1>thing for most those guys, but right now, that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>tough to deal with. And you see the Buccaneers they protected.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to protect four practice squad guys every every week,

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<v Speaker 1>and they protected Richard Robins in the corner and Troy

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<v Speaker 1>Warner a safety that we really don't know much about.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've got to be prepared to turn to those

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<v Speaker 1>guys who have necessary And then we of course had

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<v Speaker 1>Bella asking about how Gronk is doing, and what is

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<v Speaker 1>his injury situation, and how the team is, how we

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<v Speaker 1>saw this last week, how they tried to plug his hole,

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<v Speaker 1>that he feels that. I mean, that's a a trusted guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that that Brady loves to use. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like we don't have a lot of weapons, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of a unique one in that way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that Grunt gave you that even I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Braden and O. J. Howard are great athletes and

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<v Speaker 1>guys that have been proven producers. Um, but Gronk is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that is He's an every down tied end,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of guy you don't find a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>the league because he's such a good blocker and he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing about eight percent of his or eight or

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of his snaps in line, by which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>lined up right next to the line as a blocker,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas a lot of times these big pass catching tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends like Travis Kelsey or guys like that, they spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot other times split out basically as a big receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have the guy that can play in line

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<v Speaker 1>but also be a guy that produces a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>the passing game, that's a real good weapon because a

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<v Speaker 1>it helps you in the running game and in past protection,

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<v Speaker 1>but be it makes a lot less obvious what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do with that guy. You know, if Travis Kelsey's

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<v Speaker 1>lined up in the slot, obviously he's running around. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Gronkowski lined up in line, you don't what you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what he's gonna do. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>two tight endsets and you throw Cam or Ojing in

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really confusing to the defense what you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you're losing with him. And just the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he was playing so well and seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be so spry and rejuvenated. It's a shame that he's

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with this RIBS injury. From just a random hard

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<v Speaker 1>hit that smashed him onto the ground. I would I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if he was able to play this week

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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about fractured ribs. But we'll see he's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough guy and speaking to people that never know

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<v Speaker 1>what they'll be able to come back from JPP, what

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<v Speaker 1>is what is the situation there? Do we know much

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<v Speaker 1>about when he'd be available? When might we know something?

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<v Speaker 1>And then also just how you have felt about the

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<v Speaker 1>way they've been able to make up for his absence. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>coach was a little noncommittal I would say on JPP

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the week. But it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good sign obviously that he returned to practice at least

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<v Speaker 1>in a limited fashion last Friday. That's obviously a step forward. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll know a little bit more in the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of days. Although even even when he's not

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<v Speaker 1>on the injury report, JPP usually doesn't practice the whole week. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to just manage his, you know, his health overall. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously Joe tran Trienka stepped up really big

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<v Speaker 1>in the last game. Uh. He had two sacks and

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<v Speaker 1>I think three Quarterback hits and the overall the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty good, especially compared to the first three games.

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<v Speaker 1>We did blitz on about forty six percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>snaps according to next Gen Stats, So um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'd try different ways to get pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>mac Jones, and it was it was a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>effort overall. I think we just missed him a number

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<v Speaker 1>of other sacks and still got four, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good sign. It was really great that Joe try

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<v Speaker 1>and got his first couple of sacks because I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's been playing really well overall, it just hasn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>gotten home and this time he did. And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course we had to pep weren't tuned in right at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, where we had talked about stuff on Gilmore

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<v Speaker 1>and just wanted to hear what is it a possibility,

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<v Speaker 1>what it would take to make that happen. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>something you think the team would want to do. Just

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<v Speaker 1>because so many people are asking, I figured read since

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<v Speaker 1>we we did already cover it, but there's some people

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't get tuned in right away, so I figured

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<v Speaker 1>I'd ask again. Okay, so it's okay just to repeat

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<v Speaker 1>everything we said before. Yes, yeah, that's fine, including how

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<v Speaker 1>much I like to pumpkin behind you. Yeah. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>can just pretend the whole beginning the show didn't happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think the point I made before was h

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<v Speaker 1>after the last eighteen months, with the way Jason Light

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<v Speaker 1>has handled his roster, you can't count anything out. And

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<v Speaker 1>it I mean, just on paper, it's hard to argue

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<v Speaker 1>against the fact that it makes sense the Bucks have

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<v Speaker 1>a need at the position. There's no necessary We don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily know the timetable for Sean Murphy Bunting's return. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know yet how serious Carlton Davis. Davis's injury was.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly didn't look good on Sunday night. We'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>get Jamel Bean back pretty soon. But um, this was

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand nineteen NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's thirty two years old, but Jason Light

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<v Speaker 1>has done a good job of picking uh the best

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<v Speaker 1>thirties something your old free agents out there like Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Brown and and Rob Gronkowski. So I mean, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not It's not weird or unusual in any way

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<v Speaker 1>to think that the Buckaneers might be interested. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have about two million dollars in cap space. You

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<v Speaker 1>you usually can find a way to make more if

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be if you need to, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Jason Light has treated these last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>like there's an open championship window and I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>everything I can to make sure we take advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, that is going to do it for

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<v Speaker 1>us on this edition of Buccaneers Insider Live presented by

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<v Speaker 1>Miller Light. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for those amazing questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be back here next week. We'll see then, Uma,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks U.