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Speaker 1: Oh what time I watch Steve Taskers. Down down, down time.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Welcome to One Bills Live. We're

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Speaker 1: presented by Collata Health. We're coming to you from Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: the home of New Ara Field, where it is a

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Speaker 1: great day at cloudy day. There's snow coming later today,

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Speaker 1: but so far, so good. Field looks pretty good. Here

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Speaker 1: is it's right across the way. That's a live shot.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching on MSG, a live shot of New

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Speaker 1: Ara Field with no snow at all. You could go

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Speaker 1: out there and play a game today, wouldn't that be nice?

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker is with us, John Murphy and Steve Tasker, Right.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it look like you just kick it off at

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Speaker 1: about an hour and a half? Why not? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: to an empty stadium, that would be. But yeah, what

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Speaker 1: you would kick off? I don't know. We're in the

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Speaker 1: off season. Welcome. We're here to talk about the Bills

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Speaker 1: and the NFL for the next three hours. John Murphy

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Speaker 1: was Steve Tasker. We've got to SENTENNI inductees to the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame to the Scuts and Steve

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Speaker 1: saw a little hockey game tonight and you enjoyed it. Right. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a great game last night. Yeah, I went with

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Speaker 1: my with my friend Thurman. So we showed up and

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Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas. Yeah. Well and you know regular guests on

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Speaker 1: the show. Maybe you've heard it. Okay, so I've got

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Speaker 1: to let me name drop that name on you. So Thurman.

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Speaker 1: I go to the game and um, really fun, nice atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: good crowd too for a Tuesday night, I guess and

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Speaker 1: I mentioned a Thurman. I was like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Bills are not playing anymore and people, you know, people

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Speaker 1: are just ready to go out and do stuff again.

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Speaker 1: It was a it was a really solid crowd last night.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised for a Vegas game middle of the week.

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Speaker 1: It was fun, really nice atmosphere and of course the

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Speaker 1: Sabers one it was. It was a lot of fun,

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Speaker 1: really nice and nice event, really fun, fun to be

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Speaker 1: out there. I like going down there. I know the team,

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Speaker 1: I know the team is you know, out of the

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Speaker 1: playoffs right now, but man, oh man, it's it's just

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Speaker 1: fun to go down it really is. Vegas didn't have

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Speaker 1: much fun. They spoort to two, and they fired their

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Speaker 1: coach to the Gerard Gallant fired by the last Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's tough to lose to the Sabers, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a good excuse if you're especially if you're a

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Speaker 1: Western team. It seems to meet. You come East, you

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Speaker 1: play a game against the team, Well we get two

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Speaker 1: points in Buffalo. Well then you don't. Then you start

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Speaker 1: looking at who to blame, And there it is. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't just because of that game, but certainly they take

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to do it after. Oh man, I'm hockey

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Speaker 1: washes coaches through like nothing like It's like the pair

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Speaker 1: of socks there, you know. I mean, mid season doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Good year, bad, I mean a bad stretch of two

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Speaker 1: weeks and man, oh man, you can't sleep at night.

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Speaker 1: Well it makes me wonder what hockey coaches do. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: I've thought about that. Why is it that they are

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Speaker 1: so um they're held so lightly, their contributions are not

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Speaker 1: really um valued enough that people keep around. Why is

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Speaker 1: that because maybe they're not doing anything? Well, I think

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Speaker 1: it must be inherent in the game that the team is.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it this, the Sabers teams are a

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Speaker 1: good example of it. Other teams are too. You go

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Speaker 1: winning games. And the slightest thing, it seems like, makes

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Speaker 1: a big difference with these hockey teams, not like a

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Speaker 1: football game. I mean, certainly there are star players who

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Speaker 1: an organizational game. In football, it's hard to make a

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Speaker 1: big impact, you know. In hockey, I mean, you got guys,

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Speaker 1: And they, you know, figure like, well, least need another

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Speaker 1: makes a difference. I guess, come on, you know what

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Speaker 1: I think it is. You're not gonna like is. I

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Speaker 1: think it's the random nature of the sport that it's random.

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Speaker 1: See whether a puck goes in or not, it's random,

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Speaker 1: certainly differences in talent level means something. But I think

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Speaker 1: And I think coaches are just sort of they're just

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Speaker 1: collateral damage. Sometimes in the NHL, you know, oh the

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Speaker 1: puck hasn't bounced our way for a week or two.

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Speaker 1: Let's change coaches. Well, okay, let's do it. I kind

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Speaker 1: of agree, Okay, you know it is all sports random

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Speaker 1: you know, the three plays that would have made a

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Speaker 1: So there is a random of some sports, which is

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Speaker 1: why it's compelling to watch on TV. It's why we're

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Speaker 1: so interested in it because you got all these guys

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Speaker 1: both ends of the ice, both sidelines and football, both

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Speaker 1: dugouts and baseball everything, And you got all these grown

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Speaker 1: purposes across the field, and the ball bounces wonky, and

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Speaker 1: You know, we spend we overreact to the losses and

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing, it's this is a big are.

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Speaker 1: But you think about the random nature of sports and

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Speaker 1: how we get all caught up in this, and you

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Speaker 1: got these and this thing that happened in baseball with

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Speaker 1: the stealing signs, there's millions of dollars that these guys

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Speaker 1: personally involved. I mean, these guys are like, you're kept

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Speaker 1: just I'm pulling numbers out, like I'm exaggerating to make

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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure the specifics. But think about it.

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Speaker 1: A guy's in a contract year, he has a great

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Speaker 1: World Series, and all of a sudden, there's three more

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Speaker 1: they were stealing signs. Right, there's that kind of possibility

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Speaker 1: That's why all these coaches are trying to keep take

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Speaker 1: the randomness out of it. And the guy got fired

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Speaker 1: what else? Yeah, but what else was in the in

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Speaker 1: they were using against him. I don't know. Wasn't there

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Speaker 1: anybody like standing on the table for the guy? Apparently not?

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Speaker 1: believe it is You're our goal on right? That has

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Speaker 1: no weight in the conversation. It's a crazy world we

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Speaker 1: live in Murph. M Where do you want to begin here?

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Speaker 1: Because well, you brought up an issue a couple of

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Speaker 1: what you were thinking about the Houston Astros and now

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Speaker 1: I did a little reading on a little research on

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Speaker 1: it last night, and I feel differently about it than

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Speaker 1: I did yesterday. It is it is more serious than

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Speaker 1: I thought it was yesterday. It really is. And it's

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Speaker 1: um it's worse than Pete Rose. That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: It's different than Pete Rose. It's certainly different. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's involved. I don't think. Let me

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Speaker 1: we would use those signs to figure out what the

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Speaker 1: And there were more than the Astros doing it apparently,

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Speaker 1: same token, they've identified the Astros and to a certain extent,

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox through Alex Cora, as maybe the leaders

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Speaker 1: But the Astro's manager and GM fired over their cheating

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Speaker 1: Alex Cora, the manager, has been fired. And it's not good.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good look for the league. It is meaningful.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it decided, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's I don't think Steve. That's why the Astros won

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Speaker 1: the World Series. Some of the players were using the

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Speaker 1: did not. But they had it set up. They had

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Speaker 1: stand there with a bat to smack the garbage can

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Speaker 1: so they could hear it. How many smacks you know

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Speaker 1: what kind of pitch is coming. It's at a full proof,

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Speaker 1: sure fire way of guessing which pitch it is. No,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, teams were onto him after a

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Speaker 1: wild and teams would change their signals. But it's not good.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good sign And I'm glad that the

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Speaker 1: Astro's manager and GM were let go, that they were

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Speaker 1: Pete Rose. I don't know. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: Pete Rose was a manager at the time and at

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Speaker 1: a financial direct financial stake in the outcome of games

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Speaker 1: that he could affect to his manager. Yes, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know that this. I got to think about that

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Speaker 1: and it's not just the Astros, right, yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: and it was the World Series. This wasn't like a

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Speaker 1: off the back from the from years pad like Jimbo

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Speaker 1: Covert and Winston and um uh, you know Duke Slater,

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Speaker 1: Cliff Harris, the Great Safety from the Cowboys, all these guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's get some of these guys off the backlog and

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Speaker 1: get them in so that we can there. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: it's the probably still will be their star will be

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Speaker 1: as are in the conversation and just aren't good enough.

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Speaker 1: But it's also very good. But it's also a way

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Speaker 1: to commemorate the hundredth year of the league. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think why we need to think it because it's

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Speaker 1: a centennial of the league. Add fifteen guys who were

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Speaker 1: were up, you know, they're voting on for the Hall

437
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Speaker 1: of Fame, never quite made it over all these years

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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: they're in because it's a hundredth anniversary. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't understand what. I don't know. I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a it's a great way to

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Speaker 1: commemorate the league. And I don't have All these guys

443
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Speaker 1: had great careers, and the contributors did things that nobody

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Speaker 1: had done before and were important figures in the league.

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Speaker 1: I myself had a lot of respect for the tenure

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Speaker 1: of Paul Tagliboo, more so than some people out in

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Speaker 1: the general public. I thought he was a phenomenal UH

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Speaker 1: commissioner for the league, and he followed a really tough

449
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Speaker 1: guy to follow in Pete Roselle, a pioneer, so I

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Speaker 1: think he handled that role extremely well. Um and even

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Speaker 1: in before he was commissioner, he was a really important

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Speaker 1: cog in how the league worked, which is why he

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Speaker 1: was elevated in this time. So I don't have a

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Speaker 1: problem with them doing all of these guys. I think, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, every all of these guys have pluses, they

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Speaker 1: have minuses, all of this stuff. And I get it,

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Speaker 1: there's always gonna be some passion with the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame and who's in and who's out and who's still

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Speaker 1: not in and all of the stuff. But I don't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with the league. The League does what

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Speaker 1: it wants, the Hall of Fame will do it once

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Speaker 1: I do it. This is the only thing and I

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Speaker 1: think that that I care about, Murph. And we saw

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Speaker 1: it over the weekend with Bill Cower going in live

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Speaker 1: on CBS and Jimmy Johnson going in live on Fox.

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Speaker 1: I like, and with this guy David Baker, who you know,

467
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Speaker 1: who's this giant of a guy who goes around doing it.

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Speaker 1: As long as the Hall of Fame continues to handle

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Speaker 1: these inductions and the guys who they can, as long

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Speaker 1: as they treat these guys really good when they get

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Speaker 1: in there, and those guys go in and That's all

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Speaker 1: I care about. Because you can debate players from top

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Speaker 1: to bottom, from the pioneer class all the way through

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Speaker 1: to this centennial class where they got you know, twenty

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Speaker 1: guys going in. You can debate all of them. But

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Speaker 1: the simple fact the matter is once they're in, you know,

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Speaker 1: leave them alone. Because they had their career. They're not

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Speaker 1: the guys who were standing on the street corner thumping

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Speaker 1: for themselves. Just leave them alone. Let it go. You

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Speaker 1: can have take up what you want with the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame or whatever, but the Hall of Fame handles

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Speaker 1: these guys with a lot of class and a lot

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Speaker 1: of dignity and I and I love that about it.

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Speaker 1: And if you want things to change, there's two ways

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Speaker 1: to do it. One talk to the voters, or two,

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Speaker 1: talk to people who can affect the by laws of

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Speaker 1: what the the Hall of Fame actually uses to vote on.

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Speaker 1: The voters actually used to vote on these guys, the

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Speaker 1: parameters of that. But don't you know, don't go down

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Speaker 1: on all these guys that are in, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: Steve Sables and the George Young and the other contributors

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Speaker 1: that have gone in. Let them. Why do you think

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Speaker 1: when they were up for election to the program. There's

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Speaker 1: no room, or maybe they weren't good enough. Maybe people

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Speaker 1: have enough reservations about Paul Tag. This is a totally

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Speaker 1: different group of voters. This is a it's a special

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Speaker 1: blue ribbon panel, which includes members of the Hall's Board

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Speaker 1: of Selectors, League Historians, Hall of famers, as well as

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Speaker 1: Patriots coach Bill Belichick. A blue ribbon panel means hand

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Speaker 1: selected panel who would probably if you said to them, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'd really like to get Paul Tech. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this thing seems like an attention There's

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Speaker 1: no way around that atmosphere in any any way you

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Speaker 1: do this. There's just no way to get around that

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Speaker 1: back room conversation stuff. Certainly, And I think it's cheap

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Speaker 1: in the entire Hall of Fame, the addition of fifteen guys,

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Speaker 1: What makes you think the Hall of Fame was any

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Speaker 1: more expensive than twenty five thirty years ago? Expensive? What

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Speaker 1: do you mean it's cheap now? It was expensive? Then,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, because there's fifteen guys who were rejected when

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Speaker 1: they were eligible for a Hall of Fame consideration for

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Speaker 1: many years. It was an egregious oversight, maybe, but maybe

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Speaker 1: it was just that it was an agreased oversight. That's

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Speaker 1: cheapened that way too. The over sight was you say,

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Speaker 1: egregious oversight, like it was a mistake. Maybe it was

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Speaker 1: a determination made by Hall of Fame electors that I

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Speaker 1: just don't know that Max Speedy was good enough to

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Speaker 1: go in the Hall of Fame. Well, there's there's consideration,

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Speaker 1: you host of your argument here is maybe, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm good with the way it was. Now they've added

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Speaker 1: fifteen guys, get a free pass. Do not you know,

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Speaker 1: do not pass, go, do not collect one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. You're in the Hall of Fame. Independent of

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Speaker 1: any other way that anybody else has ever been in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. It's just cheapens it. I think

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Speaker 1: it's cheapen h Yeah, I think so. I think I

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Speaker 1: think there was an attitude and maybe you didn't obviously

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Speaker 1: you did not feel this way that there was a problem.

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Speaker 1: There has been a problem with the way they've done

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Speaker 1: it in the past, and they wanted to try and

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Speaker 1: rectify without blowing the whole thing up and starting over,

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Speaker 1: because then that would be I think they hadn't blown

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Speaker 1: the whole thing up. Well, they did for a year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, don't. I think they're trying

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Speaker 1: to rectify some things that that there's a big grounds

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Speaker 1: around football world of trying to make some things right

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Speaker 1: that we're not made right. And now, particularly in the

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Speaker 1: hundredth year, you're going back fifty or sixty years and

539
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Speaker 1: there's not that many people around who actually knew what

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Speaker 1: was going on back then, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to fix some things. They think we're wrong,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they didn't do it the right way. But

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the effort by them, and I liked and

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Speaker 1: I thus far I love the way they've handled it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it all right, don't we'll talk more

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Speaker 1: about that. We'll talk more about our topic of the day.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have free agents to deal with. They got

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Speaker 1: a kind of a healthy class of free agents, which

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Speaker 1: pending free agents should be the biggest priority for the

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Speaker 1: Bills to resign this offseason. There are a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: obviously a lot of free agents. We can give you

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Speaker 1: the names of all of them, but there are a

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Speaker 1: couple of key ones. Which one do you think it

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Speaker 1: should be? Should it be Shack Lawson, former Bills first

555
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Speaker 1: round draft pick, defensive end check Lawson. Should it be

556
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips found money with what he did on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line this year. Should it be guard Quentin Spain?

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Speaker 1: Should it be cornerback Kevin Johnson. There are other unrestricted

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Speaker 1: free agents for the Bills, Frank Gore, Sonaris Perry Later

560
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 1: and Waddle, Maurice Alexander, Julian Stanford, Kurt Coleman, Dean Marlowe.

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Speaker 1: We've chosen for him. We want you to choose one

562
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: which pending free agent should be the biggest priority for

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Speaker 1: the Bills to resign this offseason. You can give us

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Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty toll free one

565
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You can

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Speaker 1: send it a tweet. You can vote on the Twitter

567
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Speaker 1: poll right now. Forty seven percent of you are going

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Speaker 1: with Quentin Spain as the biggest priority for the Bills

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Speaker 1: to resign. Okay, come for you, Okay. Twenty nine percent

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Speaker 1: are going with Shack Lawson, twenty one percent are going

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Speaker 1: with Jordan Phillips, and just two percent going with Kevin Johnson.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of those early regimes? I think

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Speaker 1: I'm with him? Really yeah, Well, yes, I'm all about I.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I want him to go out and get

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Speaker 1: another offensive lineman in the draft in the first couple

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Speaker 1: of days. For two days. Why do you want to

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Speaker 1: pay Quentin Spain a ton of money? He played well,

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Speaker 1: He played extremely well this year. And he think about

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00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: this too. He was on a one year deal. They

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Speaker 1: brought in fifteen guys on the offensive line in training camp,

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Speaker 1: fifteen Now a couple of them got hurt, like got hurt,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of other guys got hurt. Fifteen guys,

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Speaker 1: and Quentin Spain was on a one year deal, and

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Speaker 1: the guy weathered through training camp got plugged into the

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Speaker 1: left guard spot and they could not get him off

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Speaker 1: the field. He did not give up a sack the

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Speaker 1: entire season on a one year deal, and he you

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Speaker 1: know that guy can play, and you you're better with

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00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: guys like that than you are without them. Now, certainly

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Speaker 1: you can bring in some competition and try and get

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00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: better up there, and I think they should. But guys

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00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: who have proven it, you know you got to make

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Speaker 1: an effort to get them keep them on your squad.

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Speaker 1: And plus three of the four guys on our list

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Speaker 1: today are defenders, and your defense. It's pretty stout, and

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00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: certainly you can take the tack one or two ways.

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00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: One it's good enough to lose one or two guys

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Speaker 1: who contributed and weren't star players. Or two you need

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00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: to keep as many of those guys as you possibly can.

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Speaker 1: I'll helpe your defense is just as good next year.

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Speaker 1: Whatever tack you take. The defense was by far the

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Speaker 1: stronger part of the part of the team this last year.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna lose all three of those guys. That's pretty

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Speaker 1: tough to swallow. Two three, three pretty good contributors. Quentin

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Speaker 1: at Jordan Phillips nine and a half sacks, yeah, Jack

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Speaker 1: Lawson five sacks, you know, and Kevin Johnson was a

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00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: starter at different times. I mean they needed him in

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Speaker 1: the rotation when Levi Wallace went down and stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I totally get that as well. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: want them to completely forget about what's going on on

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, because he gotta have

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Speaker 1: that that side of the ball short up like you

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Speaker 1: did this year. They gotta beat They gotta continue where

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Speaker 1: they're at. Hopefully you can get better on the offensive side.

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00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: They can get into the end zone more often, but

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Speaker 1: I think for the guys individuals you talked about on

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Speaker 1: that list, I'm all about Quentin Spain on that list.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised Quentin Spain has forty seven percent of that vote.

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Speaker 1: I thought it'd be closer. But we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call, you can ring in your your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that. We have a couple of good guests

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Speaker 1: coming up. Field Yates, ESPN NFL Insider joins us at

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Speaker 1: one o'clock. ESPN's Matt Bowen from NFL Matchup on ESPN's

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Speaker 1: going to join us at two, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: Bills dis Guy an NFL discussion in the interim. So

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Speaker 1: we're just getting started here. Come on back. It's One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Collada Health, coming to here from

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Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park, and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Hello there, welcome back One Bill's Live. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. We've had an interesting discussion to start today's show, Steve,

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Speaker 1: and even interesting during the break there in the in

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Speaker 1: the room about Hall of Fame credentials, pending free agent signings,

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Speaker 1: what the Bill should do? Where do you want to

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Speaker 1: go with us? Where do you want to start with

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. You want to start with. We didn't

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Speaker 1: talk about Luke Keikley. He's not even thirty years old yet.

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Speaker 1: Steve and Luke Keikley Alex he's twenty eight, returned from

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Speaker 1: the NFL, says it's the right thing to do. Keikley

639
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: has had concussions. He had that thing around his neck,

640
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: the Q collar around his neck the last three seasons.

641
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: The inventor claimed to reduce the risk of concussion. Carted

642
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: up the field during a thirty eight game in twenty seventeen,

643
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Speaker 1: miss training camp time the next year. Later insisted it

644
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: was not a concussion. He didn't get real specific about

645
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Speaker 1: what he said. Do we have we do have some

646
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: of Luke Keickley's comments, right. He went on a video

647
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: on the Panther's website, and let's listen to him. Here's

648
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Speaker 1: what Luke Keikley said about his decision to step away

649
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: from the game last night at age twenty eight. My

650
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: heart and know it's the right thing to do. And

651
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: it's hard, but that's why you play this game. The

652
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: form relationships, and if you formed strong relationships and never

653
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: go away. It's hard, but I hope to you know,

654
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: still be involved in some way, And the biggest thing

655
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: at this point now is to think the people that

656
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: who have helped me get me there, from the coaches

657
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: and the players, to Coach Rivera, to Marty, to mister Richardson,

658
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: from bringing me in and now mister Tepper. Now, this

659
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: decision has nothing to do with new coaches and coach rule.

660
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: He's into a fantastic jobs, records proven. But for me,

661
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: now is the right opportunity to move in a different direction.

662
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: And you know, there's only one way to play this

663
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: game since I was a little kid, is to play

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Speaker 1: fast and play physical and play strong. And at this

665
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: point I don't know if I'm able to do that anymore.

666
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: And that's the part that is the most difficult. It

667
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: is I still want to play, but I don't think

668
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: it's the right decision. So Luke Kickley, obviously emotional in

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Speaker 1: his announcement last night he's twenty eight years old, leaves

670
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: the game at age twenty eight. The latest player to

671
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Speaker 1: retire before the age of thirty. Steve rob Gronkowski did

672
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: a year ago he was twenty nine. Andrew Luck pulled

673
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: the plug on his career this past August. He was

674
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Speaker 1: twenty nine. Cam Chancellor did it a couple of years

675
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: ago from Seattle. He was thirty. Patrick Willis was thirty

676
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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, he left the forty nine ers. Chris Borland

677
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: left the forty nine ers he was twenty four, just

678
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years in his great, his great career.

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Speaker 1: This is a trend, Steve right, this is a trend.

680
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: What's going on? It's concussions, I think, right, Well, it's

681
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: not just concussions as part of it, no question, it's

682
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: also the emotional content you have to bring to the game.

683
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: It's a hard, physical, painful game sometimes and when when

684
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Speaker 1: a guy plays as good as Luke Keekley did early

685
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: in his career, signs a kind of a life changing

686
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: contract and you get to a point where you've earned

687
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: a ton of money and you got to look at

688
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: yourself in the eye anything. It's a big risk, and

689
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: you've suffered some injuries that make you a little less

690
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: confident or a little maybe a little less makes your

691
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: health a little more precarious than an otherwise would have been.

692
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Speaker 1: You take a good look at a hard look at it,

693
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Speaker 1: and you know a lot of these guys that you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned did that exact thing I think you're going

695
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: to see more of it. I don't think you're gonna

696
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: see guys along the lines as much as you did.

697
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: Like we just found out today that Larry Fitzgerald's gonna

698
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: come back for hear what's sixteen seventeen se as a

699
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Every every guy's different. But I think there's

700
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna be more and more guys who say, you know

701
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: what I've got. You know, I've got a pile of

702
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: money in the bank. I don't know that, and I've

703
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: got to I'm still less than thirty. Why not you know,

704
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I'll go sit on a beach. You mentioned the pile

705
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: of money and Kickley, and I'm not finding fault here,

706
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: but he said, this is why we played the game

707
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: to form these relationships, and sure he feels like that,

708
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not being facetious here at all. But they

709
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: really played the game because of money, and when they

710
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: make so much money, maybe even early on and Kickley

711
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: got into a second contract there, it's easier to walk away,

712
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: right if you have issues or concerns about where your

713
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: health is going. Push comes to shove. It's a it's

714
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: a life, it's a career, and it's a professional career

715
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: that you're getting rewarded for financially and paid handsomely to do. Yeah,

716
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: but it asks a lot of you physically and a

717
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: lot and ask a lot of you emotionally. And I

718
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: asked a lot of you. People say, hey, suck it

719
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: up and play for well for three hours on a

720
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. Murph, You and me could still do it

721
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: for three hours on a Sunday afternoon. But it's a

722
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: year round in saga that you've got to be emotionally

723
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: and invested in. And it's hard to do. And when

724
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: you've got less of a motivation to do it, less

725
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: becomes more. You know, less motivation becomes more of why

726
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do it. And that's that's where these guys

727
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: find themselves. I get it. I mean that's and that's

728
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: the place where I found myself in I just could

729
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: not dredge up the emotional content to go out and

730
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: do it for nine months or ten months a year

731
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: to get ready of them go to training camp. It's hard,

732
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: and I have nothing but respect for these guys that

733
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: are able to do it, and I applaud them for

734
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: being smart enough to be able to make that call

735
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: and It's not all about finances for these guys, not

736
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: on all. And I'm saying that's it certainly makes it

737
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: easier in some respects. It's and you said it, the

738
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: great players play the game because they want to be great,

739
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: because the game means something to them outside their bank account,

740
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: and they're great because of that, and they strive to

741
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: be good. They strive to be the best they can

742
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: be because of that, not because of the decimal points,

743
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, or the dollar signs. That's why these guys

744
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: are so good, and that's why it's hard to say

745
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: goodbye to the really great ones when they when they

746
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: do it at an early age. You bring up Larry Fitzgerald,

747
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: who is announced that he's coming back for his seventeenth

748
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: season all with the Arizona Cardinals. I think there's a

749
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: distinction here when it comes to these guys leaving the

750
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: game early. Players at certain positions are more apt to

751
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: players at the contact the heavy contact positions are more

752
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: apt to pull the plug on their careers. Larry Fitzgerald,

753
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: great receiver, the best guy. You know, he's approaching Jerry

754
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: Rice's numbers in terms of receiving, but he doesn't have

755
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: to worry about the hits and the constant pounding that

756
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: a guy like Luke Keikley has worried about for eight

757
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: seasons in the NFL. And that makes a difference, I

758
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: think absolutely the And it sounds simple, but it really is.

759
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: The further way you line up from the football on

760
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: a play, the longer you can play. That's that's simple.

761
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: And with the respect of the quarterbacks, and you can

762
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the quarterbacks. You got Philip, they

763
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: line up right on the ball. I get that. But

764
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: they're the guys who the league has made great pains

765
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: to protect. Philip Rivers playing seventeen years, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning,

766
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Drew Brees, you can go down the list,

767
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. These guys are able to play a long

768
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: time because the game has been structured to make sure

769
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: the stars stay healthy. And even among that group, Andrew

770
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: Luck decides, no, it's not enough protection. It's not enough

771
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: for me to get I want to get out. It's hard.

772
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: But then you get guys, you know, on the offensive

773
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: line and the linebackers, defensive lineman, and a lot of

774
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: it is linebackers, guys who run up and hit people.

775
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: You know, I've enough's enough, And I applaud them for

776
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: having the the good sense and the intelligence and the

777
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: self awareness to say, you know what, I don't need this,

778
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: and I won't be as good to myself for my

779
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: team as I want to be, so I'm gonna go

780
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: a different direction. Good for them. Interesting, it's very interesting.

781
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: I think it's something about where the game is and

782
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: where maybe it's headed right. Maybe you guys aren't willing

783
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: to take the same chances. I still maintain it's going

784
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: to be more common. As it has become more common,

785
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: I think it's going to continue. I think it's a

786
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: trend that will continue. I think you'll have great players

787
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: that will be like thanks, I'm out. Yeah, you know, yeah, seriously,

788
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: I you know, and you're right, it does. It comes now,

789
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: it comes from the high contact position. But I think

790
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: you can look too at players who have struggled with injury.

791
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: You know, you can like a guy like like a

792
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft, you know, who's been you know, how frustrating

793
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: his his career been for him, a guy who's so

794
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: talented and so productive, and yet now it's an ankle,

795
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: now it's a shoulder, now it's an and he just

796
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: can't get on the field, and you spend all your

797
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: time rehabbing and fighting to contribute, just want to be

798
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: a part of the team, and time after time after

799
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: time you're forced to rehab, you know, you can't get

800
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: on the field. And other guys in other situations where

801
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: like Luke Keakley were, you've had a serious injury and

802
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: you just don't feel the same Harrison Phillips second acl

803
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: he's had to deal with. You know, that starts to

804
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: wear on you. Now when you come back and you

805
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: have success after that, maybe that's a little different for guys.

806
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they will, you know, it will come to a

807
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: point where say, I'm gonna keep going, you know, but

808
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: every guy's different, and yeah, you got you gotta tip

809
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: your hat to these guys who are intelligent enough to

810
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: make that call. We got a lot to talk about today. Look, look,

811
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, today we have already introduced the

812
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: Astros and the Red Sox cheating scandal, and it is

813
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: a scandal and it is serious. We've talked about the

814
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame and they're centennial Class fifteen

815
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: new members of the Pro Football of Fame, and now

816
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: Luke Keakley and early retirements. Pick a pick a topic,

817
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: even take our topic. What free agent do you think

818
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: would be the bills priority to resign? Let's talk about it.

819
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight five fifty

820
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: two five fifty call here from Steve and Orchard Park. Hello, Steve,

821
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. How are you doing, guys? Good?

822
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: I just want to touch about the you know, the

823
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: cheating scandal. UM. I don't know, Murph, I was listening

824
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: to before you said it was. I think you said

825
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: minor or not that serious. I'm not sure oh about that?

826
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: Because um, when you're setting up video cameras in center

827
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: field and you have separate rooms in your in your

828
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: stadium to view which signs are being relayed to me,

829
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: that's pretty serious. UM, I agree, No, I agree. I

830
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you, and I'll let you continue a

831
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: second or see. Um, that level of sophistication, I guess,

832
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: and effort, technology and effort, Yeah, that makes it more

833
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: serious than just stealing signs. But go ahead. So I

834
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, I got a I got a

835
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Speaker 1: boy that plays, um, you know, he plays Division one baseball,

836
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: and UM, I know that if if he knew if

837
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: he knew what what ball was coming. Hey, he still

838
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: has to hit it, but it's a comfort knowing you

839
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: know it's it's not going to be a fastball. It's

840
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: going to be a slider or curveball or a changeup.

841
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: He still has to hit it, and you know where

842
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: they're not so to speak well, and Steven, and let

843
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: me interrupt again. And I'm going to ask you a

844
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: question here which brings me to the point of how

845
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: much does it matter? If you know? So your son,

846
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: what's his batting average hit playing D one baseball? Let's

847
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: give him a four hundred. He's hitting four hundred, pretty

848
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: good hitter if he knows what pitches come in. What

849
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: does he hit at? Eight? Is he eight hundred batting average? Now?

850
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: I don't think so, right? Four or five? Four? Ten? Maybe?

851
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. You tell me, Steve, what is it? No,

852
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: I can't put an average on anything like that because

853
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: every hitter is different. And that's why I and again

854
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm interrupting you again. That's why I have problems assigning

855
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: a level of seriousness to this, a level of I

856
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: don't know, how how serious should we take this? It's cheating,

857
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: it's getting an unfair advantage. It's using the technology to

858
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: do it. I do think it's a case where the

859
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: technology is outpacing the rules and they're going to change that.

860
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm certain, but I don't know how serious it is.

861
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Steve. I've interrupted you three times now,

862
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: that's fine. I get your point. My point is if

863
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: a hitter is up to the plate and he knows

864
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: as an inclination of which pitch is coming, it's a

865
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: huge advantage. It's a huge advantage for the hitter. It

866
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: just is. Now, whether that relates the winning World Series

867
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: or we won the game because of this, I can't

868
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: say all that right that it is an advantage and

869
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: it's just not. It's different, Murph. If the guy's on second,

870
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: right a runner, base runners on second, and he's picking

871
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: off the catcher signals, that's part of the game, so

872
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: to speak. You know what I mean to do. Here's

873
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: the thing, listen, here's my take on it. It's got

874
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: to be a big deal to know the pitch that's coming,

875
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: because every hitter at every level of baseball will tell

876
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: you that's what they want. They wish they had, they

877
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: wish they knew exactly what pitch was coming. And if

878
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: it's and if every hitter at every level of baseball

879
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: tells you that, then that's how big a deal it is.

880
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Does it change the outcome of games? I think it

881
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: obviously probably does. I don't know. That's what I'm not

882
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: That's it's hard to quantify because you you know, you

883
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: can because there's always the side of the arguments as well.

884
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: They didn't need it in that game or whatever, but

885
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: there might have been three or four games back or

886
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: that did make a difference and making even if it

887
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: makes a minute difference, you cheat it. Yeah, I just

888
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: think it and you won because of it. It's a

889
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: huge deal. You know, it's a huge deal. They've they've

890
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: been dealt with, They've been punished. I just like to

891
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: see I hope this doesn't come up again, because it

892
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: really does kind of tunish the game. I hear you, Steve,

893
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: thanks for calling. I think it is going to come

894
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: up again, because I think it was more than the

895
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: Houston Astros involved. Now. Major League Baseball probably hopes and

896
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: praise that they put it to bed with these suspensions,

897
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: and the same thing with the Red Sox guy. But

898
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of this.

899
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We're coming back with more. One

900
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Klata Health from the Seneca Studio

901
00:43:52,840 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: in Archer Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Got Murphy

902
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: set tasker. One Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health. You

903
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: were at the hockey game? You didn't get the chance

904
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: to watch the Democratic debate last night? I watched it.

905
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: It was pretty borning. I went to bed after an

906
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: hour or so. I was Yeah, I was at the

907
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: hockey game. It's not boring, it's weird. Let me just say,

908
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do if I lived

909
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: in Iowa. I don't know who I would vote for.

910
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: And it almost like that. How many people were at debate? Debate?

911
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: How many six candidates? Six down to a field of six? Now, okay,

912
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know. Let's take a phone call

913
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: from David and Brockport. Hello, David and Brockport, you're on

914
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: the air with us. Hi hi um. I hope NFL

915
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: follow suit with Baseball and gets New England for the spygate?

916
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Which one the ones I already paid a price for,

917
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: or the one last year? All of them? Oh? Okay, Okay,

918
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: what else you got, David, Yeah, Um, Josh Allen. I

919
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: hope Sean McDermot reminds him be fearless every game next year,

920
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: because when he he said to be fearless in the

921
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Dallas game, that was the best game. And ever since

922
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: then he seems to panic in the red zone. And

923
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to disagree with that, but go ahead, you

924
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 1: need to play fearless. And I'm for Jordan Phillips. Okay,

925
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: David cover in a lot of topics. I don't think

926
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: Josh is fearless or plays with fear in the red zone.

927
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh game, I thought he was playing fearlessly.

928
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to. I don't know. Yeah, I mean

929
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: that was a big thing. I mean Sean McDermot. Sean

930
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: said that before the Miami game and third week of November.

931
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't before the before the Thanksgiving the game, it

932
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: was the next was two weeks after Miami. But now

933
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: I get it. Y'all want to know, you always want

934
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: to see Josh be aggressive, and you want to see

935
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: him be successful, and sometimes you kind of get the

936
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: idea that he has a certain mindset when he's successful

937
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: in a certain mindset, when he does. When he's not successful,

938
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: he was pretty good in the clutch. We thought maybe

939
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: he had a clutch gino. And I also thought we

940
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: kind of gave him the credit for in the big

941
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: games this year, in the in the Thanksgiving game, in

942
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: the Sunday Night game, he showed up big in those games.

943
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: He's got to do it more consistently, There's no question

944
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: about it. And And I don't know if I can attribute

945
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: a panic mind frame or a hero ball mind frame,

946
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: whatever you want to however you want to quantify it. Yes,

947
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: sometimes Josh is less than successful, and I think more

948
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: not just successful, I think consistent. I think that's it

949
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: still comes down to his decision making more than his

950
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: physical ability to throw the football where he wants it

951
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: to go. I think it still comes down to you know,

952
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: you can pick whatever play you want to to illustrate

953
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: your point. I mean, we all do that, but I

954
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: think that it comes down to the guys he chooses

955
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: to throw it to, rather than not having a guy

956
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: open or being too inaccurate with the football. Thanks for

957
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: your call. We're going to take a break. When we

958
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: come back, we'll be live with field Yates ESPN NFL

959
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Insider We'll talk with them about the weekend playoff games,

960
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: a division around and the championship games coming up. We'll

961
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: talk to them about Pro Football Hall of Fame fifteen

962
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: new members elected yesterday or today. I guess this morning.

963
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: Field Yates from NFL and ESPN gonna join us when

964
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: we return. One Bill's Live presented by KLADA Health from

965
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park on Buffalo Bill's Radio

966
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: Bufalo Bills Radio Network. Sports date update from One Bill's Drive.

967
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame has announced its centennial class.

968
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: Former NFL Commissioner Paul Taglibo, former NFL Films President Steve Sable,

969
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: the two players from the league's most iconic defenses among

970
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 1: those elect Thirteen members of the fifteen member class revealed

971
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: this morning on NFL Network. They'll go along with the

972
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: new members of the Hall of Fame being voted in

973
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: on Saturday, February first, the night before the Super Bowl,

974
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: when the Hall of Fame electors meet in Miami. Panthers

975
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: linebacker Luke Keikley fighting back tiers and a video posted

976
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: on social media announced last night, has plans to retire

977
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: from the NFL at age twenty eight. I still want

978
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: to play, but I think this is the right decision.

979
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Keekley said. He did not explain exactly why he can't

980
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: play fast, physical and strong at this point in his career.

981
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: What is known is that he had missed seven games

982
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: due to concussions over the last several years. Larry Fitzgerald

983
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: is coming back to the Arizona Cardinals. A future Hall

984
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: of Fame wide receiver, signed a one year contract with

985
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: the Cardinals to play a seventeen season all with the

986
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: only team he's ever played for. The team announced the

987
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: signing this morning did not disclose the terms of Fitzgerald's

988
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: one year deal, but he has journed eleven million dollars

989
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: in each of the last four years. The man, the

990
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: agent for two of tag Tago Valoa, says that he

991
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: will be healthy by the draft. His agent, Lee Steinberg,

992
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: says the quarterback plans would be healthy enough to work

993
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: out for NFL teams. In advance of the NFL Draft.

994
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: On April twenty third, Sabers got a three point performance

995
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: from Sam Renkart and a Jackechel game winning goal and

996
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: beat the Las Vegas Golden Knights four to two. Chel

997
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: extended his point street to eight games, with the fifteenth

998
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: win of the season. Like Lina, s Allmark tied his

999
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: career high set in thirty seven appearances last season. Now,

1000
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: the Sabers head off on a two game road trip

1001
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: starting tomorrow night, when they take on the Dallas Stars.

1002
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: They played the Nashville Predators on Saturday in their final

1003
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: game before the NHL by weekend. Sabers center and j

1004
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: Thompson will miss the remainder of the season after having

1005
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: surgery to repair an injury to his shoulder, and the

1006
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Golden Knights fired coach Gerard Gallant hired former

1007
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: Santos eight coach Peter de Burr, whom the Sharks fired

1008
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: last month. That had all occurred after the Sabers beat

1009
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: him last night. That's the update from One Bill's Drive.

1010
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker were joined by ESPN NFL

1011
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: Inside of the host of the fantasy focused football podcast,

1012
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: Field Yates, joins us on the line. Hello, feel good

1013
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: to see you today. How been good afternoon, gentlemen. I

1014
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: am doing well. We have whittled the field down to

1015
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: just four teams, which means a couple of things. The

1016
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: off season is near, but also really impactful football ahead

1017
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: over the next three Sundays, of course, one of which

1018
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: is just the Pro Bowl. Yeah, good good, try just

1019
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: starting to sell the sounds Pro Bowl. Before we get

1020
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: to this weekend's game, though, can we talk a little

1021
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: bit about the centennial inductees, the fifteen additions to the

1022
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame introduced today Field. I'll be

1023
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: honest with you, and Steve disagrees with me. I think

1024
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: it's overkilled. I think it's unnecessary. I think by adding

1025
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: fifteen guys in a totally different way than they do

1026
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: all the other Hall of Famers, I think that the

1027
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: prof Hall of Fame is cheap in this class of

1028
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Hall of famers. It's a really interesting I think it's

1029
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: a really interesting debate because I think that you can

1030
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: argue both sides. It's special to be inducted into Pro

1031
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, no matter what the circumstances are,

1032
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: and there are probably even more people that are worthy

1033
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: of being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame

1034
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: that will not end up in the profile Pro Football

1035
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, because really it's a numbers game. I

1036
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: will say that I have always enjoyed the day before

1037
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, which is when the Pro Football Hall

1038
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: of Fame Committee meets normally to decide on its next class.

1039
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed the anticipation of that day. And I

1040
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: do think there are some people that are going to

1041
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: view this group of fifteen in a different light than

1042
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: some of the other names who could become Pro Football

1043
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame members, whether it's someone like, for example,

1044
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: Troy Polamalu or Steve Tasker, we still want to get

1045
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I think that

1046
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: that being said, my heart tells me, hey, let's just

1047
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: appreciate these incredible men and their contributions to the game

1048
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: and what they have done to help grow the spirits

1049
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: and the integrity of the game of football. And I'm

1050
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. I don't Once they're in,

1051
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: they're in, and I don't think you need to differentiate

1052
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: one from the other. I think it's I don't think

1053
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: it's any thing outlandish that the league wanted to commemorate

1054
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: the hundredth year by maybe going back and getting some

1055
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: guys who were lost because of the decades that passed

1056
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: and the evolution of the game. And certainly, and I

1057
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: told this to Murph if you want to change the

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00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: way they're selected, do that, but don't change it. Don't

1059
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: change the guys who are in in one way any way,

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00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: shape or form. Did change the way they're selected. They

1061
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: had a Blue Ribbon committee this year to put fifteen

1062
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: people in who have been before the Hall of Fame

1063
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: electors in the past and never one enough to get in.

1064
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: And you can make an argument either way, though that

1065
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: finally got it right. They opened the doors wider to

1066
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: let let those guys in. I don't know, field, there's

1067
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: no answer to this is there probably isn't an answer.

1068
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: I think probably where we would be best suited to

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00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: land on is simply that these man you are inducted today,

1070
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: conventionally or unconventionally, are deserving of a spot in the

1071
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. So we're glad to see them,

1072
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: and we're glad to hear that they will have their

1073
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: moments under the sun, so to speak. And well, this mornings,

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00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: I felt that the selections this morning were a little

1075
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: bit different, just because they were announced first of all,

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00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: thirteen of them, and the fact that it was done

1077
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: in front of a smaller audience. I thought these past

1078
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: weekend there was something neat about both Bill Cower and

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00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson being inducted in the middle of halftime of

1080
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: two very popular broadcasts. Of course, those games all over

1081
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: the weekend and we must watch. Yeah, I'll agree with you.

1082
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: And I like the way that I told this to

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00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: Murph as well. I like the way the Hall of

1084
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: Fame has handled this. I think they always do a

1085
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: really good job. I think David Baker is becoming one

1086
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: of those guys that you see like, hey, I know

1087
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: that guy, and I think that's a good thing for

1088
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: the for the Hall of Fame. And he brought it

1089
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: up as well, and not for nothing, And this just

1090
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of occurred to me. There's only a hundred up

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00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: until this year, there's only one hundred and eighty four

1092
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: living members of the Hall of Fame, and they're losing them.

1093
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: And I think if they want to have they want

1094
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: to have guys that they can send places. They want

1095
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: to have guys available, they want to have money who

1096
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: can they got. Yeah, they want to have guys who

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00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: can represent the Hall of Fame as Hall of Famers,

1098
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: and they're they're literally not keeping up with the amount

1099
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: of guys that are that can't you know, they cannot

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00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: do that because of their age or because they're no

1101
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: longer with us. So I think that's a little bit

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00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: of it. But also there is that function of it,

1103
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: and you can say what you want about how that

1104
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: changes the quality of the guys that are in it.

1105
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: I just don't think it does. Yeah, I think that

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00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: most people right now might view these men in some light,

1107
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: But three years from now, Jimmy Johnson will not remember

1108
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: him as a Pro Football inductee. During the centennial class,

1109
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: we'll just say, oh, Jimmy Johnson, pro Football Hall of Famer,

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00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: And I think that will really validate the selections of

1111
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: these fifteen individuals. And it was great to see the

1112
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame canvas a lot of different areas. Right.

1113
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: We obviously had players those are the founders or sort

1114
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 1: of the principles of our game, but coaches inducted and

1115
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: also Steve Sable, who I think really has been as

1116
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: an integral of a force as there is in the

1117
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: television broadcasts and the way that we consume pro football

1118
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: on Sundays as maybe anybody in the industry. All right,

1119
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: let let me switch gears, but let me continue to

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00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: play the role of kur Muncheon, the league has I

1121
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: play it. Well, the league has this questionable penalty call

1122
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: on Cody Ford in the Bills Houston Texans playoff game

1123
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: a couple of saturdays ago, and all right, you can

1124
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: live with a bad call, and then they kind of

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00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: doubled down on it by finding Cody Ford twenty eight

1126
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. What is the thinking their field? Well, by

1127
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: the letter of the law, what Cody Ford did is

1128
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: a penalty, and the league instituted a rule this year

1129
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: that offensive linemen or any offensive player running back towards

1130
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: or I guess opposite the direction of where the offensive

1131
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: play is going cannot block defender games did a pick

1132
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: because that's sort of a Cody four did, right, I mean,

1133
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: he basically just said a pick, even though the player

1134
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have tracked down I believe was Jacob Martin

1135
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: would have tracked down Josh Allen. Anyways, by the letter

1136
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: to law, it's dependently. I think though that the NFL

1137
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: was trying to crack down on the hits that we

1138
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: see certainly on occasion, but like you know, we definitely

1139
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: see these massive blindside blocks where a wide receiver thirty

1140
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: five yards down the field starts sprinting back fifteen yards

1141
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: trying to pick up a block for his teammate who

1142
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: caught the ball, you know, ten yards from line of scrimmage,

1143
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: and that can be dangerous and vulnerable. I think, though,

1144
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: that this violation was not really the spirit of what

1145
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: the NFL is trying to eliminate. And you know, twenty

1146
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars, listen, Cody is gonna be fine. You're

1147
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: gonna make a lot of money in this game. Second

1148
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: round pick who's got a bright future ahead of him,

1149
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: certainly showed some of that this year. But you know,

1150
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder if we're sending the right message to

1151
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: these players. Because Cody Ford, I believe, is twenty one

1152
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: or twenty two years old. He's probably been playing football

1153
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: for ten to twelve thirteen years. We're trying to get

1154
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: these guys to untrain themselves from things that are just

1155
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they're subconscious now right. Cody Ford was not

1156
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: going back with intent on Jacob Martin. His job is

1157
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: to protect number seventeen, and what he did was he

1158
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: offensive line. Coaches will coach their guys, they say, you

1159
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: hear the words all the time, go find work, Go

1160
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: find work, and Cody went and found work and he

1161
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: got penalized in two ways, a flag and also his wallet,

1162
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: and I think that's unfortunate. I hope the NFL addresses

1163
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: this rule and figures out whether they've really cracked down

1164
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: on what they were trying to crack down on or

1165
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: if they've created more of an issue than a resolution.

1166
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: And as the Bill season comes to an end in

1167
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: that game that we were just talking about in Houston,

1168
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: one of the things that becomes evident is that now

1169
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: all these head coaching candidates, the coaching positions have all

1170
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: been filled. The six spots that were open at some

1171
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: point during this past season and postseason have all been

1172
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 1: filled with candidates, and a lot of you know, all

1173
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: these staffs are being reassembled, all these coaches are being

1174
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: hired and fired. The one thing that comes to kind

1175
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: of floats to the top is the Buffalo Bills have

1176
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: got the same head coach, the same offensive coordinator, and

1177
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: the same defensive quarter now for three straight years and

1178
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: row headed into their fourth straight year. How big a

1179
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: difference could that possibly make? And it's got it. It's

1180
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: really unusual that they would last that long. There are

1181
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: some players who are able to just fit in, no

1182
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: matter where, no matter what, they just get the job done.

1183
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: But for a quarterback especially, I don't want to make

1184
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: football only about the quarterback. But Marcus Mariota Baker Mayfield

1185
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks who were drafted within the top two picks

1186
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: of their respective drafts. Both of them now have played

1187
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: for what feels like a million different offensive coordinators. For

1188
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, it's it'll be his third whoever Kevin Stefanski

1189
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: decides to make his offensive coordinator, or it'll be Todd

1190
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: Munkin back. But Munkin was not the play caller last year. Anyways,

1191
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: a lot of change already for Baker Mayfield and he's

1192
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: not even in you know, he's two seasons into his career.

1193
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: Then you spend things forward, someone like Marcus Mariota, who

1194
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: played for felt like a new coordinator every season, and

1195
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: next thing you know, he's kind of lost his way.

1196
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: I think having Brian Dave all for Josh Allen going

1197
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: into his third season and Brian going into his fourth

1198
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: season of the offensive coordinators just really important and not

1199
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: the guys can't accept and adapt and handle change. But

1200
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: it's hard. You know, you're you're trying to learn each

1201
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: year from the mistakes you made last year or the

1202
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: areas you struggled last year. Well, Benuan has been in

1203
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: the entire offseason learning to speak a new language, learning

1204
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: a new system, trying to communicate in a way you're

1205
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: not accustomed to. That's just hard. And I think Brian

1206
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: Dayball would have been a fine, fine coaching decision for

1207
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: the Browns if you want that direction. But the Bill

1208
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: should feel fortunate to have him back for a fourth season,

1209
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: just like this should feel the same way about Leslie

1210
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: Fraser and obviously Sean McDermott. Continuity is really a key

1211
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: up there in Buffalo. Right now, we're talking with field

1212
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Insider, let's talk about the coaching picture around

1213
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: the National Football League field. The Browns go was Kevin Stefanski,

1214
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys getting Mike McCarthy, The Giants get Joe Judge, the

1215
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: Panthers hire Matt ruland the Redskins hire Round Rivera. I

1216
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: get the Cowboys the winner. I think Mike McCarthy's the

1217
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: best hire the bunch. What do you think? You know?

1218
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: It's funny, as I've been I've been saying that self.

1219
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: And part of the reason why is that we don't

1220
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: often enough evaluate coaching jobs based off of things besides

1221
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: wins and losses. We just sort of stick to wins

1222
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: and losses, right, I mean, but you guys were there.

1223
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: You guys have been there throughout the ten year of

1224
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and the first year the surprise run to

1225
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it was great to snap the streak.

1226
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: But I think even the Bills knew that year that

1227
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, they made the playoffs, but it was not

1228
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: going to be a deep run. And then last year

1229
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: there were some growing pains, but I think you guys

1230
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: saw some of the work that was being put in

1231
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: by the staff, and you knew these were still the

1232
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: right people. Wasn't that Sean McDermott and Frazier and day

1233
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: Ball got worse at coaching last year? They were still

1234
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: excellent coaches in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. It will

1235
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: showed again when they have double digit wins, make it

1236
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, etc. But I do think that the

1237
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: public perception is going to be that Mike McCarthy will

1238
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: be the best hire because the Cowboys should win ten

1239
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: games next year, I mean, really should They should have

1240
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: won ten this year, As you guys know them. You

1241
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: saw him on Thanksgiving Day all the bills, you know,

1242
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: took it to them. You know, that's a talented group

1243
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: down I mean that it's hard to find quarterbackctually got

1244
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. It's hard to find running back. They

1245
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: got a good running back, hard to find wide receivers.

1246
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: They got two of those. So Tallas not the issue

1247
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: in Dallas. It's a matter of getting the most out

1248
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: of that talented I think that Mike McCarthy, who it's

1249
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: amazing how he went from really well regarded, made his

1250
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: made the playoffs every year, one of the Super Bowl,

1251
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: to a bad coach, like, did you really get bad

1252
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: at coaching? And I think not. I think what happens

1253
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: is that it's hard to keep one voice in the

1254
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: room for a long time and have players continue to

1255
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: respond to that voice. And I think Mike will do

1256
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: a nice job down there in Dallas. Yeah. And also

1257
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: one of the other things we talked about, getting these

1258
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: coaching stats, there's a ton of six of them, and

1259
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: you put like eighteen or nineteen guys, maybe twenty guys

1260
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: on his staff as an assistant coach in the NFL.

1261
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: That's a lot of guys who it's like, you know, well,

1262
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: you can do the math. Six head coaches with the

1263
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: staff of twenty guys, there's one hundred plus guys that

1264
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: are going to be working as assistant coaches and offensive coordinators.

1265
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: And one of the surprising guy, the offensive coordinator the

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Speaker 1: Panthers is going to be a guy named Joe Brady.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty and he's going to be the youngest coordinator

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Do you know anything about

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Speaker 1: what he's done in his resume? A little bit? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so five years ago he was a GA at Penn State.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible he went and he was an offensive assistant

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Speaker 1: with the Saints in two thousand and seventeen and two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. And what that role means not entirely obvious.

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Speaker 1: What that means, right, I mean, offensive assistants can be

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Speaker 1: kind of quality control, that can be tape breakdown, they

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Speaker 1: can be assistant position coaches whatever. Sean Payton when has

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Speaker 1: said this since that when Joe took the job with

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Speaker 1: LSU as the passing game coordinator and the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: coach and basically their offensive coordinator, John Payne told me

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Speaker 1: to talk he was making a mistake you know, and

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Speaker 1: that tells you, and Sean laughs, that shows it, I know, right.

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Speaker 1: But now a year later, Joe Brady is thirty years old,

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Speaker 1: and if Cam Newton's back, he'll be older than his

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, which you know, it seems unlikely, right or

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Speaker 1: at least right at the same age. So Joe Brady

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Speaker 1: certainly has some strong credentials based off this past year.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what kind of innovation he brings

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Speaker 1: to Carolina. I actually thought that North Turner did a

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01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: nice job with Cam Newton, helping him evolve as a passer.

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Speaker 1: But I think that what's clear as from a resources standpoint,

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Speaker 1: David Tepper, the new Panthers owner, is going to say,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, if you want somebody and we can

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Speaker 1: get that person, will will get that person. If he's available.

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Speaker 1: We'll find a way. Interesting and the Panthers are interesting,

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01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: and they had kind of a major upheaval late last

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Speaker 1: night when Luke Keakley announced his retirement. You put out

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Speaker 1: a tweet field that basically outlined his resume. It's a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame resume for Luke Keackley. He will be missed, right,

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Speaker 1: I think so, I really do think he has Hall

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: of Fame credentials even in a short, short career at

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01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: the day of eight years. But if you're basically the

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Speaker 1: best player at your position eight times out of eight,

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, and you could have made a case for

1304
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: him as a pro bowler as a rookie, right I mean,

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01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: the guy was a defensive rookie of the year, came in,

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01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: did the position well, or played a position well right away.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that the player reaction last night was

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01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: very telling about Luke Keikley. I'm sure you guys saw

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Speaker 1: some of it as well. Michael Thomas, Juju Smith, Schuster,

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Speaker 1: Greg Olson, his teammate. All these players came out to

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Speaker 1: make sure that they let the world know what kind

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Speaker 1: of competitor Luke Keikley was. And I do believe that

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Speaker 1: Luke Keickley's retirements, along with other recent young retirements is

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Speaker 1: I think in some ways they do all tie together.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this Luke kick is gonna be missed.

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01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: One of the fiercest, most incredible competitors we had in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, A guy who he had no weekends in

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01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: his game. There was zero weakness in Luke Keickley's game,

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Speaker 1: and an incredible person as well, a guy who will

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01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: be dearly missed in Carolina. What are the connections between

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Speaker 1: some of the other young guys who've retired early. I

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Speaker 1: guess what do you see there? What's the trend that's developing.

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01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: I think players are becoming more and more aware of

1324
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: the physical poll that football can take on their body.

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: And you know, I think there were some players, and

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: I respect players that were like this, and maybe Steve

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01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: could offer some perspective that they played until their body

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01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: would not allow them anymore. And there are other players

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01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: who I mean, if Luke Keickley wanted to come back

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01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: next year, you can come back. I mean he that

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01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: was until yesterday, that was the expectation he'd be back

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01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: and he'd be the same all pro level linebackers he

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01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: has been. And I think that some of these players

1334
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: are realizing that just because they're well enough to play

1335
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: now doesn't necessarily mean that it's right for them forever.

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01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: A lot of money to be left on the table,

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: But Luke Kikley, I think might be thinking about age

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01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: forty five, Luke Keeckley in age fifty five, Luke Keikley,

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01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: Gronk same way, Patrick Willis, Chris Borland, all guys who

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01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: played linebacker and tight end. I mean, those are some

1341
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: of the most high contact positions in the NFL. And

1342
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: not that the whole game is not high contacts, but

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01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: every single play, Luke Keikley is going shoulder and shoulder

1344
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: and chest a chest with someone. In a lot of cases,

1345
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: it's a three hundred pound offensive lineman and he's rocked

1346
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: up at two forty two fifty. But still that's a

1347
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: lot of physical damage being put in your body every

1348
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: single week. Yeah, I agree with It's not just that

1349
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: tight ends and linebackers bang into each other. Defensive lineman,

1350
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: offensive linemen do as well, but the linebackers and tight

1351
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: ends do it with velocity and that changes the equational

1352
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: And it's simple physics. And those guys aren't three hundred

1353
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: pounds for the most part, and it does take its

1354
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: toll on And I think I'm like you, I think

1355
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 1: it is a trend. Will probably see more. Andrew Luck

1356
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: is another example of guys who are just pulling the

1357
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: rip cord and saying I've had enough, let's we gotta

1358
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: move on. I'm gonna talk to you about the playoffs

1359
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: before we go away. I mean, this is we are

1360
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: in the midst of the championship week. I guess let's

1361
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: start with you know how much. Let's start with the

1362
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: Packers at going out to San Francisco, the number one

1363
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: seed in the NFC, that San Francisco and Green Bay.

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: Matt Laflour in his first year as head coach. How

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01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 1: much credit does he deserve? And if he deserves more

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01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: than he's getting, why is that he deserves what he

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: is getting and probably even more. A lot of people

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01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of a whole hum hire last year.

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01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: He was not the trendiest of names. But and I

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Speaker 1: get it. The offense hasn't been as dynamic this year

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01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: as maybe you would think an offensive minded coach pair

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers would be. They've added a lot of

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01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: great pieces on defense, but you know, it's a big

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01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: responsibility to manage fifty three men on Sundays, and Matt

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: Laflour has done a nice job of pushing all the

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01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 1: right buttons. And they are nine and one now against

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01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: teams with a winning record this season. They're one of

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01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: the best teams in close games this year, and I

1379
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: think that they have done an excellent job of getting

1380
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: the most out of some guys who we've known have

1381
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: been talented, but are really taking their game to another

1382
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: level this year, and that's led by Aaron Jones. So

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Speaker 1: I'm really impressed by the job that Matt Lafloor and

1384
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: his staff have done. I hope he's you know, I

1385
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: know this is the reward for him, is the opportunity

1386
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: to play for the Super Bowl on Sunday, and certainly

1387
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting ties in San Francisco, including his

1388
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: brother Mike Lafloor, who is an assistant coach on Kyle

1389
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: shanahan staff, and another guy that's very well regarded. I

1390
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Speaker 1: got to ask you this as well, Matt Lafleur, you know,

1391
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: walking into a locker room with Aaron Rodgers, a Hall

1392
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: of Fame caliber quarterback already in place, who's already you know,

1393
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: full blown developed. Did Matt Lafloor And I asked this

1394
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: yesterday and I didn't really know the answer. I just

1395
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of took it for granted. It must have happened

1396
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 1: at some point. Did Matt Laflour have to sell Aaron

1397
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers on a new offense and a new commitment to

1398
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: a run game and Aaron being willing to hand the

1399
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: football off in every in a lot of situations where

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: otherwise make McCarthy would have had him throwing the football.

1401
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: I mean, how much of a cell job did Matt

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01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: Lafleur have to sell to Aaron Rodgers? And how much

1403
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: did Aaron Rodgers buy? It seemed like it seems like

1404
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: Aaron's really bought all the way in. I don't know

1405
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: how much of a cell job it was, because I

1406
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: do wonder Aaron's thirty six and he doesn't need stats anymore,

1407
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't need him. As you said, he's a Hall

1408
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: of Fame callable player. But for Aaron Rodgers to take

1409
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: another level, and he was not part of those top

1410
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks in the NFL one hundred team. If he

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: had had one more super Bowl in his resume, I

1412
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: bet you he would have been. And if he wins

1413
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: one more or two more, he might enter that territory

1414
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: of top you know, five to seven quarterbacks ever? Right now?

1415
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: You know, to me the unquestioned most accomplished quarterbacks ever.

1416
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: You know, it starts with Tom Brady and then it's

1417
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. And you can point to a lot of

1418
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: numbers for other players, but the most important number is

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Speaker 1: six and that's the number of Super Bowl rings they have.

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01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: So I think that Aaron has bought in because he

1421
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: doesn't care about anything other than winning. And it seems

1422
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: like he is all the way in on what Matt

1423
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: Lafloor is doing because it's contributed to them winning. Last

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Speaker 1: question for you, Field, and it's the other game, the

1425
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: AFC game three oh five on Sunday. Look, I know

1426
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Speaker 1: that the Titans are playing good defense, they have Derek Henry,

1427
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: but they can't keep up with Kansas City scoring fifty

1428
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: one points a game, right, I don't even see this

1429
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: as much of a game on Sunday. What do you think?

1430
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: I fear? I'm with you, murf. I think that the

1431
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs are just they're so explosive. And I apologize for

1432
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: who made this analogy, but I think it's sort of appropriate.

1433
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: You know, there was a time I hate to use

1434
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: crossboard analogies all the time, but a couple of years ago,

1435
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: maybe even last year, the Warriors and basketball, it was

1436
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: like it didn't matter how big the lead was. You know,

1437
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: they're eventually going to find their groove. Yeah, and it's

1438
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: pretty rare for you to be able to hold them

1439
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: down when they're shooting, you know, sublime level threes, and

1440
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 1: kind of felt that way for Kansas City this past Sunday,

1441
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: even at twenty four to nothing, it was like, all right, well,

1442
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, unless they play the game with a running

1443
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: clock and Patrick Mahomes decides to retire, I don't think

1444
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: this game is necessarily over, and truth be told, it

1445
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: was not. And I think on Sunday the Chiefs find

1446
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: a way to win again by double digits over the Titans.

1447
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: What do you think about the other side, then? What

1448
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: do you think about the Niners and the and the

1449
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: Packers in San Francisco? Do you have a favorite in that?

1450
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: I think the Forden Nineers hold serve their team that's refreshed,

1451
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: a team that can rush the pastor team it's so

1452
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: fast upfront. I think we're going to see a Chiefs

1453
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: forty nine ers super Bowl, which I guess we call

1454
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: it that Joe Montannibal, of course, a long time team

1455
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: the Forden nine Ers and his short time team the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Hey Field, thanks for this, good talking to We'll talk

1457
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: again next week. Thank you very much. All right, guys,

1458
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Field Gates hosted the fantasy focused

1459
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: football podcast the ESPN NFL insider joining us on the

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01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 1: line from his office. I think he's in Bristol, Connecticut.

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01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 1: Fatty go all right, we got a lot more to

1462
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: talk about, including our topic of the day, which pending

1463
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: free agent is the biggest priority for the Bills to

1464
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: resign this offseason. We'll talk more about that, plus any

1465
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: of the other issues we have touchdown today. John Murphy

1466
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker one goes Live, presented by Kalaida Health

1467
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, John Murphy, Steve Tasker one goes Live. We're

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Speaker 1: here on this Wednesday afternoon here until three o'clock, and

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01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: uh got a good show going on here. It's a

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01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: little bit disjointing, are all over the going on. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot bro sleeve, right, but it's it's it's all right,

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Speaker 1: It's all right. Have a few more like this over

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: the next seven months. Can't think of it like that, right,

1475
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: I can't think of it like you can. I don't

1476
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,839
Speaker 1: articulate it. You know. Our question question today, which pending

1477
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: free agent is the biggest priority for the Bill to

1478
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: resign in the soft season. Yeah, we're talking about free

1479
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: agency already in January? What do you think? UM, take

1480
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: a look at the Twitter poll. It's interesting which pending

1481
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: free agent do they really need out of this group?

1482
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: There's a big group of free agents. There are four

1483
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: I guess we've identified the four most prominent ones, and

1484
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: we're wondering what you who you think is the one

1485
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: to UM to focus on? So who's most impassed the list?

1486
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: Forty eight percent say Quentin Spain the Guard, Twenty eight

1487
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: percent say Shack Lawson, twenty one percent say Jordan Phillips,

1488
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: two and a half percent say Kevin Johnson. What do

1489
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: you think? Eight oh three five fifty twell free one

1490
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty give us

1491
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: a call? Well, maybe read some of your tweet sheets

1492
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: in a minute. Here, I gotta read some of this

1493
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: right here. Let me read all right, But before you

1494
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: do that, let me read a couple of random tweets

1495
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: Kimberly Beck. One of does I murphy me you are

1496
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: being naive? Cheating is about the intent, ie, who's who's

1497
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: to say if athletes that use peds are better, stronger, etc.

1498
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: It's the intent behind the act to gain an advantage

1499
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: over your fellow competitors, doesn't matter if you gain an advantage.

1500
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: It's cheating, period. Yes, I agree, it is cheating. It

1501
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: is cheating. They should be fine, they should be suspended.

1502
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: They have been, they've They've also lost their jobs. I'm

1503
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: just wondering how much of an impact does it have

1504
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: on wins and losses? That's all m v jr. Twenty three.

1505
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think John Murphy is a closet Patriots fan.

1506
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: He sees no problem with their cheating and with clear

1507
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: cheating in any sport, constantly defending cheaters. They cheated. Yes,

1508
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: it affected the outcome. Egregious, as Steve would say. Oh

1509
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: and for that debate Talk Trump twenty twenty Okay, I've

1510
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: watched the debate. That's as much as I said, getting

1511
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: we are getting lobbed, and we are getting from us

1512
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: from the rafters. Now you ask for it. Here's one more.

1513
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: Martin Wilson, Hey, Stephen Murph. Regarding the Astros cheating scandal,

1514
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: I agree that it's not a huge cheating act in

1515
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: and of itself. However, the MLB talent level of CRI

1516
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: the league is so high, especially in the playoffs, that

1517
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: the slightest advantage to a team can swing the balance dramatically.

1518
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: Where did I see this? Was it on the calls? No?

1519
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: But somebody I think was going to call us before

1520
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: who said the Astro has had a much bigger advantage

1521
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: at home. And that's what I'd like to see numbers

1522
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: to that, because I believe that would be indicative of

1523
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: how much of an advantage it was to steal signs

1524
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: and know what pitch was coming. But nobody, I haven't

1525
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: seen those numbers. Maybe that's my fault. I haven't seen them.

1526
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Steve, I'm not talking about football. Go ahead.

1527
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: I you know that's a problem. And we're all over

1528
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: the place. Yeah, I mean we are. If there's a

1529
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: lot going on now because this it is a huge

1530
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: scandal in baseball that this this cheating thing, and then

1531
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: we've got that. We're right in the middle of the

1532
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: playoffs of really what they were incredible playoffs. It's been

1533
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: a really fun season for playoffs. The regular season was fun,

1534
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: particularly here in Buffalo, and the tournament that playoffs have

1535
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: been great as well. The games have been fantastic, and

1536
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: the Bills have got some decisions to make about which

1537
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: pending free agents. The biggest priority we've got you know

1538
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: the four guys who are the most prominent, which is

1539
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of we picked and it is, Well, it's Shack Lawson,

1540
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, Quinton Spain, Kevin Johnson from John he tweets

1541
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: in a US Shack has so much more to give,

1542
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: you gotta get him signed. So he votes Shack Lawson.

1543
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: And if when you tell me a guy's got so

1544
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: much more to give, they didn't pick up his option year.

1545
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,919
Speaker 1: He hasn't produced yet, and he's got the most motivation

1546
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: of anybody to do it, and he still got more

1547
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: to give. What buttons are you gonna have to push

1548
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: to get him to give that? You think giving him

1549
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: more money's gonna do that? And that's the real question.

1550
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: And that's what it always is. It's and you've got

1551
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: guys retiring after they hit these home runs. You know,

1552
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: they just take it out of gear. You think Shack

1553
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: Lawson's gonna give more if you give him a big contract,

1554
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: more than he gave in a year where he had

1555
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: the whole league watching him, ready to give him a

1556
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: contract if he produced and he gave us five sacks.

1557
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: I might be being naive here, Yeah, I would think so,

1558
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: I would I would think that maybe they can convince him, hey,

1559
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 1: the reason you got this money is because of the

1560
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: way you played last year, and you got to keep

1561
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: that going. And they won't. I don't think they'll have

1562
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: to break the bank to keep check Lawson. But yeah,

1563
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 1: I think that's a reasonable expectation that I think that's

1564
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: part of what they do here with McDermott and being

1565
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: in the in this bill's culture. They let guys know

1566
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: that it's not just about money. It's you're gonna get money,

1567
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna be paid well, and we want you to

1568
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: make money. But you really want to go out and

1569
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: take your money and and cash checks and not be

1570
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: a contributor. I'm not sure. I'm not sure the check

1571
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: lawsum would do that. Is that naive? Maybe I'm being

1572
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: naive again, Well, that's the big fear and how and

1573
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: you got a guy who gave you in a year

1574
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: where he had everything to prove and every opportunity to

1575
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: prove it, you got five sacks. You can't find a

1576
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: guy like that, You can't. You can't find a guy

1577
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: like that in a free agent market, depending guys over

1578
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: other other places or whatever. You know. I mean, you

1579
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: think it's that he's that indispensable to this He's indispensable. Well,

1580
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't want to walk away from him

1581
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: like he's nothing. He's something. Yeah, okay, and what about

1582
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: and okay, I get it. So what about Jordan Phillips?

1583
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: The same thing. And here's a guy who who was

1584
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: unproductive as a second round pick for the Miami Dolphins.

1585
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: They released him although he was unhappy and was causing

1586
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: a stink. I think to some extent down there, didn't

1587
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't happy about his playing time, came to Buffalo

1588
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: and had a ton to prove, and in a year

1589
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: where they did where he's gonna be a free agent,

1590
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: he did kind of hit it out. So you know,

1591
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: he's got nine and a half sacks from a spot

1592
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: in the defensive line where it's hard to get nine

1593
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, Right, you would agree with that, correct,

1594
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: So he did kind of come through for this team.

1595
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: And he's a big, big body, a guy who who

1596
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: had a good year statistically, and so I think, you know,

1597
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: is he less of a less of a priority than

1598
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson? Certainly? I mean we're splitting here. Everybody wants

1599
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,879
Speaker 1: all these guys to come back. They had a fantastic defense.

1600
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 1: These guys all contributed to it. You'd all love to

1601
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: have all of them, and you seemingly would have a

1602
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: lot of money to spend to do it. But how

1603
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: much is it going to take? Certainly, And I'll tell

1604
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: you this too, Murphy said, you know it being naive

1605
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: or whatever. I think it's naive to think Jordan Phillips

1606
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: and Shack Lawson aren't going to wait until the bitter

1607
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: end to get to see what the open market has

1608
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: to offer. And I think they're silly not to agree

1609
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: with the You're not going to sign them before free

1610
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: agency starts. There's just no way unless those guys where

1611
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips Shack Lawson loves it so much here in

1612
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo that they're gonna make a life choice and say, man,

1613
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: I cannot I don't want to play any place else.

1614
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: I think it's naive to think they're gonna do that,

1615
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 1: And if I'm their representation, I would do everything I

1616
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: could to talk them out of it. Be foolish, foolish.

1617
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: So I think that's what you're gonna wait on. These

1618
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: guys aren't going to sign until the free agent market hits.

1619
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: And whether it's with Buffalo or somebody else, they're gonna

1620
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: get the top dollar, and I think they should. Back

1621
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet brought to you by Carrigan Moving Systems,

1622
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. From Nick which

1623
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 1: pending free agents are the biggest priority for the Bills

1624
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: to sign Nick, says Spain, Quentin Spain keep the offensive

1625
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 1: line intact at any cost. Keeping Josh Allen upright is

1626
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: priority number one. Not to say I don't love Jordan

1627
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: Phillips and to the same extent Lawson, but O line

1628
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: is the priority. Okay, I got it, and from Nikki.

1629
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: He also says Spain, we should keep the O line

1630
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: as intact as possible to give Josh that continuity. Losing

1631
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: the guys on the defensive line would hurt, but I

1632
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: think we'd be okay with Daryl Johnson and Harrison Phillips

1633
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: coming back. We can also get another d lineman and

1634
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. It need be okay good reasons

1635
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: to keep Quentin Spain to put make him top priority.

1636
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 1: Whatever happens if they don't resign all four of those guys,

1637
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, Jordan Phillips, Quentin Spain, Kevin Johnson. If they

1638
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: don't resign all of those guys, there's a gap there.

1639
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 1: There's guys who contributed on a consistent basis. You can

1640
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: say you can minimize their contributions, but they were there consistently.

1641
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson took sixty percent of the snaps this season

1642
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: at defensive Quentin Spain didn't give up a sack all year.

1643
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson was part of the regular depth rotation of

1644
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: the cornerback spot opposite Tredavious White. These guys were all

1645
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: on the roster. They were on the field every Sunday

1646
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: taking significant snaps. If you don't get them back, somebody

1647
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: has to take that those snaps next year, and they'd

1648
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: have to play pretty good to replace those guys, and

1649
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: they'd have to come from nowhere almost if they're you

1650
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's a it is a problem,

1651
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: and it's a it's something you got to think about.

1652
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: I'd said this early on, this team's gonna look different

1653
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: next year. It's gonna look different. They're gonna have a

1654
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: different identity, they're gonna have a different way of doing things.

1655
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: They're gonna have different prominent players who emerge from nowhere

1656
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 1: they're gonna have new rookie class. He had Ed Oliver,

1657
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: he had Dawson Knox, he had Devin Singletary this year.

1658
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: To name a few of those rookies, Duke Williams. There's

1659
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna be different guys in significant roles next year who

1660
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: don't know who they are yet, but they're gonna be there,

1661
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: and you gotta and you gotta hope and think that

1662
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: you got to hope they can be as productive. Take

1663
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: your call here, Marking Buffalo, Go ahead, Mark, you're on

1664
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: the here, Hi, Steve by John, how are you guys? Hey?

1665
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: I just wanted to chime in on this cheating thing.

1666
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a little naive, maybe I'm old school, but

1667
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,839
Speaker 1: the thing that I can continually hear when the subject

1668
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: is brought up, regardless of the sport, is how much

1669
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 1: did it affect the games? How much do to change

1670
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: production those kinds of things? And the last thing that

1671
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: ever gets mentioned is the actual integrity of the sport.

1672
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 1: And when you lose that, as far as I'm concerned,

1673
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: you lose the sport in general. And to me, that

1674
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 1: tells me if you've got to do those kind of

1675
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: things outside the lines to affect games, then you're either

1676
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: not good enough talent wise, strategy wise, coaching wise to

1677
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: beat teams straight up, like like the sports are intended

1678
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: to be. And I know money skews everything, and everything

1679
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: is just about winning. Just when baby, just win, But

1680
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean when you have wins because you've cheated. To me,

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: there are hollow victories. I want to beat a good

1682
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: opponent straight up and know that I've actually accomplished something,

1683
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to cheat. And you know that

1684
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of a thing, sotcher Mark. I agree with that

1685
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact. But stealing signs has been

1686
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,879
Speaker 1: going on for years, decades, almost a century of baseball.

1687
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do with that. I mean,

1688
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: this is a new way to steal signs. It's a

1689
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: technologically advanced way to steal signs, although banging on a

1690
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: garbage can with a bat doesn't seem that high tech.

1691
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: But I just wonder, you know, what do we do

1692
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: with that? You know, John? Yeah? Can I just I'm

1693
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: not a baseball fan quote unquote I was when I

1694
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: was a kid. I love the folklore of the sport

1695
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 1: and the history of the sport, and you're right, that's

1696
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: been going on and It's also been something that has

1697
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 1: sort of been, like again, part of the sport forever,

1698
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: but it was done in ways that it is not easy.

1699
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: Everybody knew what was going on. When you start bringing

1700
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 1: in high tech mechanisms and things of that nature, it's

1701
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: no longer part of the folklore of the sport. You know,

1702
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: the nuances of being able to steal a sign when

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01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: you're on second base, or a guy that's all the

1704
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: way out in the center field and ways an arm

1705
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: and you happen to catch it. Whatever it was the

1706
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: way they were doing it back in the day. They're

1707
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: taking it to a new level, which to me is

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01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: just absolutely crazy and ridiculous. So I got to think

1709
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: about that. I think you might be right, and believe me,

1710
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 1: it troubles me, Steve. I know I'm in favor of

1711
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: cheating now, but I'm not. I do think this is troubling.

1712
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: And the fact is, I don't know if it's because

1713
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: of what used to go on in baseball or what,

1714
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: but it troubles me that it's not a bigger deal,

1715
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: this whole cheating thing. And as I said, I read

1716
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: that it's more than the Houston Astros, more than the

1717
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox who said goodbye to their manager. Today.

1718
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: There's more teams than that involved in this, and the

1719
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: fact that it's not bringing shaking baseball through its very

1720
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: foundation troubles me. But I'm also trying to be realistic

1721
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: about and realistic about that kind of cheating, you know,

1722
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 1: that kind of sign stealing. It's been going on for decades.

1723
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 1: The thing that's troubling to me is the stakes are

1724
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: so high for the clubs, the organizations, for the for

1725
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: the coaches involved, for the players involved. The money is

1726
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: so enormous that cheating becomes I don't care what the

1727
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: penalty is, you know there and plus if if the

1728
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: penalty for this, even if it is systematic, and even

1729
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: if it is league wide, and if they're if they

1730
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: don't snuff this out or do something egregious or make

1731
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: it as a have a chilling effect on the rest

1732
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: of the league in their attitude towards this type of thing.

1733
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna keep going, and it's it's going to grow.

1734
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: One your suspension for guys not enough five million bucks.

1735
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: That's not even a long weekend in Vegas for these guys.

1736
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: A five million bucks for a guy that owns a

1737
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: billion Dollar company, a lot of money. Not for the Yankees.

1738
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: They pay that to their equipment guy. They don't. It's

1739
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money, five millions, a lot of moms

1740
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: and peanuts. Okay, it's peanuts, it's ball. Is in the

1741
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: process of cleaning this up right now, you got an

1742
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: infielder making nine digits and you're gonna give up five

1743
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: million bucks for a for a world championship. That's the

1744
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: problem is with that Murph is now the lid comes off,

1745
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: and now you'll you'll you'll do everything you can think of.

1746
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 1: You'll put bugs in the locker room, you'll put cameras

1747
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: in the locker room, in the opposing the locker room.

1748
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: You'll do anything you can think of. And for five

1749
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: million bucks, and you can. You gotta fire a general

1750
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: manager that you fired twenty you fired fifteen managers and

1751
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: your ten years owner. Yeah, I'll fire another manager. We're

1752
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: getting World's championship of it. Here's the thing you've got

1753
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 1: to You gotta hit this with a hammer that nobody

1754
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: wants any part of. You Gotta hit him like with

1755
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: a Pete Rose thing, because then if you don't, they're like,

1756
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: well now you got a way. Okay, So we're thinking

1757
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: about doing this. What do you think you think they'd

1758
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: give us, like what three million? They gave them five million?

1759
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: Three million bucks? Here, what do you think do you

1760
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: think we'd get away with it long enough to get

1761
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: the World championship? Because that's the conversation, because then up

1762
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: until that point, it's like, no way, I'm not doing it.

1763
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: They Pete Rose. I mean these guys the sox Stuf

1764
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: they got fired in They're out for ten years in

1765
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: the league. I'm not doing it. That's what kind of

1766
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: you have to do right to take that conversation out

1767
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: of the out of the equation, because right now it's

1768
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: just a negotiation. Like, listen, the Astros got five million bucks,

1769
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: two first and second rounders for two years. What do

1770
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 1: you think do you think we can do that and

1771
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: get away with this new technique? We get because it's

1772
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 1: it's against the rules, But what do you think that's

1773
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: really the conversation. What it comes to the owner of

1774
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: the Astros, by the way, said that he had no

1775
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: idea this is going on. Yeah, I get it, and

1776
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: he probably didn't. So what are you talking about that?

1777
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 1: Who's making that calculation? You're talking about the general manager

1778
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: and the manager. Yeah, I don't know. We're gonna take

1779
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: a break. We're back with more. One Bill's Slide, presented

1780
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: by Collat of Health from the Seneca Studio on Archard Park.

1781
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. One Bill's Live, John Burfee,

1782
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Interesting show today. Let's take a few phone calls.

1783
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: We'll go to Tom and a Lackawanna. Hello, Tom, you're

1784
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: on the air with this. Go ahead? Hi Tom, Hi Tom, Lackawanna. Tom.

1785
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: If I'm hung up, let's go to Jim and lockboard. Jim,

1786
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: Please don't hang up. Hi, Jim, you're in the air.

1787
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: How you doing John, John Stee We're doing well. Good.

1788
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Go ahead. The third time I called first a couple

1789
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: of times. It was a couple of years ago about

1790
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and a couple months ago about Lamar Jackson.

1791
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: And today I wanted to discuss Yeah quickly if I'm wrong,

1792
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: But Christian Wade is still on the Bill's roster. Why

1793
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: don't you want to talk about Lamar Jackson today. He's

1794
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: gonna be the MVP. Point. I told you when in

1795
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 1: the draft that we should have taken Lamar Jackson. A

1796
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: couple of months I called and said, I told you so, well, okay,

1797
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: you believe that. Still, I don't know that I'm going

1798
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: to tell us about Christian Wade today. I was just curious,

1799
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: if he makes the team, do you think he could

1800
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: have an impact on this on this football club if

1801
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: he makes the team. Yes, absolutely he could, but he's

1802
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 1: got to make the team. I think he could be

1803
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: as he was exciting. We didn't see much of him,

1804
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 1: but I think he could be a very exciting uh

1805
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: running Yeah. Yeah. If he can make this roster, it

1806
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: will be because he earned it. Yeah, and that's that's big.

1807
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. So will Um he's gonna

1808
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: get the opportunity. He's still on the roster. He's gonna

1809
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:01,560
Speaker 1: come back to training camp and he's gonna have a

1810
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: chance to make an NFL roster that is that has

1811
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: really basically one guy that's carved in stone, and that's

1812
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. So there's some room for him there and

1813
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how he comes back. He's

1814
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: had some things to work on. The game was very

1815
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: new to him. It's probably still is very new to him,

1816
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 1: but he's been in this building practicing all season and

1817
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: less sure if he's on the practice scout. He's still

1818
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 1: practices all year right. Oh yeah, yeah, he's in season.

1819
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: He's he's taking plays, he's taking snaps, he's running routes,

1820
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 1: he's doing everything he's supposed to be doing. So yeah,

1821
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: he's probably come a long long way since training camp.

1822
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. Let's go to Jason and Tonawanda. Hello, Jason,

1823
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: you're on the air. How are you doing. Um, I

1824
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: just wanted to say, I trying to disagree with Steve's

1825
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: about to check when he was kind of hard on

1826
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Shack because the difference that he made this year and

1827
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: the chain, you know, and he got better as the

1828
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: year went on, and I think he also opened up

1829
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: the whole for the for other defensive players to get sex.

1830
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: And that's why it was spread almost evenly with sex

1831
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:16,560
Speaker 1: among the defense. Yeah, okay, you thought you had a

1832
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 1: really y had thought he had a major contribution to

1833
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Megan and I didn't mean to belittle it, but yeah,

1834
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,799
Speaker 1: you think he was really really important to that defensive rotation.

1835
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: And also, um, of course we got to keep that

1836
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: offensive line together and if anything, you know, add to it.

1837
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,600
Speaker 1: And I mean the guy didn't even let in a

1838
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 1: sack this year or so. Yeah, I think that's a

1839
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: big Okay. Yeah, And I tell you I'm with you,

1840
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: Jason to a certain extent. I wish they had all

1841
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: four of these guys back. I don't think they will be.

1842
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: In fact, I think they might make a push to

1843
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: get Quentin Spain back. I don't know that they can

1844
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: match the price that Jordan Phillips or Harris or Jack

1845
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 1: Lawson are going to get on the open mark it.

1846
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: But like I said earlier in the last segment, I

1847
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: think both those guys are going to get the free

1848
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: agency and we're gonna see what the market has for him.

1849
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain was on the market last year as a

1850
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: guard and he was out there for a couple of

1851
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: weeks and the Bills got him on a one year deal,

1852
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 1: prove it deal, and he did. He had a great year,

1853
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how his value has

1854
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 1: changed because he sat on the free agent market for

1855
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 1: a long time last year before the Bills were able

1856
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: to convince him to take a one year deal. So

1857
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see. And Kevin Johnson, he's a

1858
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: former first round pick. He's got a lot of physical

1859
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 1: abilities and he was a contributor as well, so it's

1860
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: interesting to see where those guys are. And there are

1861
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: other free agents on the roster as well, but those

1862
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: are the four biggest contributors, and certainly he'd like to

1863
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: have all of those guys back. Who's the biggest priority

1864
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to free agents for the Bills. That's

1865
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: what we're talking about today. Give us a call eight

1866
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight five fifty

1867
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: two five fifty. We're gonna talk with Matt Bowen. When

1868
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: we returned Matt Bowen from NFL matchup on ESPN, former

1869
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: Bills safety, He's gonna join us talk about the upcoming

1870
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 1: games this weekend and what's gone on in the playoffs

1871
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: so far. Come on back for that. One Bill's Live

1872
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: presented by Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park.

1873
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio, Lollo Hills Radio Network Stories

1874
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: Stop date the update from One Bill's Drive. Paul tag

1875
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 1: leiboos Steve Sable, the former president of NFL Films. Two

1876
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: players from the league's most iconic defenses among those selected

1877
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in this centennial class.

1878
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Thirteen members of the fifteen class. Fifteen member class unveiled

1879
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: today on NFL Network. Tag Leibo Sabo, former Steelers safety

1880
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: Donnie Shell, Cowboys safety Cliff Ferris among the inductees. Also

1881
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: inducted are also going to be inducted to the Pro

1882
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. Former Eagles wide receiver Harold Carmichael,

1883
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Bears tackle Jim Colbert, Hackers defensive back Bobby Dylan, Jets

1884
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: tackle Winston Hill. Everybody's going in the Pro Football Hall

1885
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: of Fame. Fifteen new members announced today and more coming

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Speaker 1: up the day before the Super Bowl. Panthers linebacker Luke

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Speaker 1: Keickley says retiring from the NFL is the right thing

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Speaker 1: to do, fighting back tears in a video on social media.

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Speaker 1: Keithley announced last night his plans to retire from the

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Speaker 1: NFL at the age of twenty eight. Larry Fitzgerald has

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Speaker 1: not had enough wide receiver. The future Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: wide receivers signed a one year contract with the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: to play a seventeen season all with the only team

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Speaker 1: he's ever played for. Larry Fitzgerald, now thirty six years old.

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Speaker 1: Savers defeated the Las Vegas Golden Knights last night, four

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Speaker 1: to two. Thanks to a three point performance from Sam

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Speaker 1: Reichert and a game winning goal from Jack Eiker, his

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Speaker 1: fifteenth win of the season. Like Lenas, Allmark tied his

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Speaker 1: career high set in thirty seven appearances last season, four

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Speaker 1: and one since the beginning to January. So now the

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Speaker 1: Sabers leave on a two game road trip starting tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: they take on the Dallas Stars. They play the Nashville

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Speaker 1: Predators on Saturday. After they lost to the Savers, the

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Speaker 1: Golden Knights fired head coach Gerard Gallant. The Vegas Golden

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Speaker 1: Knights fired him and hired former Santos eight coach Peter

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Speaker 1: de Burr with the Sharks. Last month, the Knights also

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Speaker 1: fired assistant coach Mike Kelly. Burr has an NHL career

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Speaker 1: coaching record of four hundred fifteen or four hundred fifteen

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Speaker 1: wins and three hundred twenty nine losses. And Alex Cora,

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Speaker 1: who won the World Series in twenty eighteen and his

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Speaker 1: debut season as manager with the Boston Red Sox and

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Speaker 1: has been linked to offseason signed stealing Scheme, has mutually

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Speaker 1: agreed to part ways with the team. And that's the

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Speaker 1: update from One Bills Drive. John Murphy, Steeve Tasker in

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Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio. Joined on the line right now

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Speaker 1: by ESPN NFL Insider, NFL Matchup co host former NFL

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Speaker 1: safety seven seasons in the league, including the two sixteen

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Speaker 1: season with the Buffalo Bills. Happy to have met Bowen

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Speaker 1: on the line. Hello, Matt Bowen, John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Reppord in Buffalo. Thanks, coming on, Hey guys, that's going on?

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Speaker 1: Are you we're good? Still getting over the Bills loss?

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the Bills departure from the

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Speaker 1: playoffs about a week and a half ago? Matt? What'd

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Speaker 1: you think? So? I can understand that. I'm sure if

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Speaker 1: you asked the head coach, the players would say the

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Speaker 1: same thing too. They didn't finished plays in the second

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Speaker 1: half of that football game. I then to have plenty

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Speaker 1: of opportunities to win that football game, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: up by two scores. And it's also a situation where

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson made, you know, some unbelievable plays. He really did,

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Speaker 1: and I thought the game really swung on that quarterback

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Speaker 1: design run when Deshaun Watson put his shoulder down and

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Speaker 1: found the end zone and you could feel the momentum

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Speaker 1: that games start to change. But look, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of impressive things from that game. You know Singletary, the

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Speaker 1: way he ran the football, very impressive. Josh Allen threw

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Speaker 1: some lasers, okay he really did. And Josh Young made

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Speaker 1: some mistakes and poor decisions as well, what you expect

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Speaker 1: from a young quarterback. But again, situations where I believe

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Speaker 1: they didn't win plays. And one thing I say about

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Speaker 1: playoff football, it's not about winning the first quarters. Say

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Speaker 1: it's about winning plays. You have to win plays. And

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Speaker 1: you can look at the past to John Brown that

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Speaker 1: was just out of bounds, the pass in the corner

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Speaker 1: of the end zone that Josh threw that you know

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Speaker 1: play that wide receiver needs to make. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: See look at those situations and say that's how close

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Speaker 1: who were and that's playoff football really is winning those plays.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't. But there's still a lot of positives

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Speaker 1: to come out of the game, a lot of positives

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Speaker 1: from the season, especially looking the defensive side of the

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Speaker 1: ball and how they played defensively. You have a good

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Speaker 1: thing going right now in Buffalo. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that came out of this last thing, the season ending

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Speaker 1: press conference, Brandon Bean said, you know you get bounced

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Speaker 1: in the first round of the playoffs. We're more than

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Speaker 1: one player away. I was gonna ask you, Matt, you

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Speaker 1: watch these guys on film. How close are the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills and what do they need to do? What I

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Speaker 1: would do? I think you need to add an addresser.

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Speaker 1: I think you do. Look at Oliver started to flash

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the season. Okay, you're starting to

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Speaker 1: see those athletic traits of that out at Oliver as

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Speaker 1: an interior pass rusher and an interior player in the

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Speaker 1: defensive line. I think you need to add edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: I really believe that, whether it's through free agency or

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Speaker 1: through the draft, because I think that would complete that defense.

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Speaker 1: Because we've talked about it before. You know, they do

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Speaker 1: some different things in the secondary, but really at their

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Speaker 1: core in Buffalo, they want to play coverage, right, they

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Speaker 1: want to play coverage and they want to get home

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Speaker 1: with four. So if you can do that and then

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Speaker 1: then you add in or sprinkle in some zone and

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Speaker 1: man pressures with that. But I really think the first

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Speaker 1: thing I would look at with this roster is adding

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher, preferably someone young. In the prime of

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Speaker 1: their career and free agency or what I would prefer

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Speaker 1: as a general manager to build that dge rusher to

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Speaker 1: the draft, they finished tenth in the league in sex

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Speaker 1: per pass. Not enough, man think they should get more sacks?

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Speaker 1: Do you think or more? I know it's not the

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Speaker 1: same as pressure, But what are you looking for there?

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Speaker 1: What I'm looking for there is someone who can impact

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Speaker 1: protection schemes, someone that can provide consistent pressure, because if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have someone, Look, I'm not going to one

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Speaker 1: thing I want to say. I'm not coming down on

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Speaker 1: anyone on this roster right now. I'm saying, add more competition,

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Speaker 1: add more speed on the edge. And I think if

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Speaker 1: you do that, and it's not just stacks, I think

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Speaker 1: in terms of just quarterback pressures. And one thing I

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Speaker 1: always remember playing for Greg Williams, who obviously used to

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Speaker 1: be the coach up in Buffalo as well, is that

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Speaker 1: quarterback disruptions are just as good as a sack. You

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Speaker 1: knock a pass down, that's a disruption. You forced quarterback

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Speaker 1: to leave the pocket and throw away, that's a defensive one.

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Speaker 1: That's a positive play, and that's situation. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what you're looking for what I would add to the defense,

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Speaker 1: and also competition at the cornerback position opposite Turndavious White.

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Speaker 1: I've always said that you can never have too many

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Speaker 1: defensive back you can never have too many pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: I think you look at one team right now that

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Speaker 1: has that, which we'll talk about in terms of the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: as local San Francisco has on the defensive front and

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Speaker 1: how much that impacts what they do in courage, I

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Speaker 1: think San Francisco is very similar. They're not overly complex

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Speaker 1: in the secondary. They played three deep, they played four deep,

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Speaker 1: They play some man coverage, and they play good technique

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Speaker 1: in the secondary and allowed their front four to get

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Speaker 1: home to the quarterback. Interesting men bow and as our

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Speaker 1: guests spent seven years in the NFL, Hey man, I

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Speaker 1: remember that article a post that you wrote, well it's

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Speaker 1: now four years ago, maybe four or five years ago,

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Speaker 1: about how tough it is and what goes into the

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Speaker 1: decision to retire from the NFL. And I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about that today, especially in relation to Luke Keekley's decision.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that and what do you

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Speaker 1: make of kind of a trend of young guys who

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Speaker 1: are not advanced age and have a lot more to

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Speaker 1: play for it. Just walking away from the game, I

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Speaker 1: was surprised by that, just because you know, Luke Keiley

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Speaker 1: is such a high level player. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: player that if you're a coach and you have a

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Speaker 1: young linebacker, that's one of the first films you throw

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Speaker 1: on to that young linebacker to learn how to play

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Speaker 1: the position and what he does off the field, how

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Speaker 1: to act like professional. But also know it's a very

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Speaker 1: physical position. And I don't know if it's a trend guys,

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Speaker 1: but you saw with Patrick Willis as well, former linebacker

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Speaker 1: from the forty nine ers, you play that middle linebacker position,

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Speaker 1: how physical it is and how many collisions you take

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Speaker 1: week to week just taking on ISO blocks, tackling the

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Speaker 1: open field. I think he can add up over time.

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Speaker 1: And Keickley had had injuries. You know, he had previous concussions.

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Speaker 1: I completely understand the move. I applaud his career. He's

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite players to watch when he put

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Speaker 1: on defensive film. There's no question about that ultimate team leader,

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Speaker 1: just the way he played. Now I'm not in the

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Speaker 1: film room with him, I'm not in the weight room

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Speaker 1: in Carolina but to see the way he played in

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Speaker 1: the field and the way his teammates gravitated to him

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Speaker 1: on the field, that is, to me, is the ultimate pro.

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Speaker 1: And I've had a coach, you know, the late Norm

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Speaker 1: Parker at the University of I was my defensive order,

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Speaker 1: and he said, the number one component you can get

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Speaker 1: as a player is not about your stats. People don't

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Speaker 1: forget about your stats. It's how tough you are. People

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Speaker 1: say you were tough and you retire, whether it's and

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Speaker 1: if your high school days, your college days, or your

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Speaker 1: pro days, then you did something right. And that's the

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Speaker 1: first thing I would say about lu Kiki. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's I think it You're right. I think it is

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Speaker 1: becoming something more of a trend where guys are just

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Speaker 1: being more willing to hang it up and say, listen,

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Speaker 1: I loved it, it was great, and I just don't

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Speaker 1: have it to give anymore. And you gotta tip your

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Speaker 1: hat to him. It's their decision to make, and you

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Speaker 1: can be happy or sad about it, but you got

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Speaker 1: to respect that how difficult that is. And I got

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Speaker 1: I did it, and so did you, and you gotta

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Speaker 1: live with the results. And I think a guy like Keithley.

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Speaker 1: Evidently he'll be able to do that. I gotta ask

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Speaker 1: you too about the upcoming games. This weekend San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers sitting at home watching the Packers come in.

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Speaker 1: How do you see that game going? What do you

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Speaker 1: think the key matchups are? Well, I think the key

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Speaker 1: matchups one thing we're doing the show this week at

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Speaker 1: the matchup shows, look at the forty nine Ers defensive

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Speaker 1: line and how they scheme up pressure we all know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's four first rounders they have in the

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Speaker 1: defensive front and they can win one on ones. But

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Speaker 1: how they get to those one on ones? Like I

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Speaker 1: said before, in the secondary, they're not gonna change. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be your core coverage install back in many camps.

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Speaker 1: But what they do on the defensive front, they will

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Speaker 1: overload one side of the football. They will show a

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Speaker 1: five man front. They'll use twist stunts inside to get

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Speaker 1: those one on one matchup. Don't be surprised to see

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa a line over a guard or DeFord over

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Speaker 1: a guard. I'm gonna have a play I'm gonna show

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Speaker 1: from earlier in the season against Tampa when Nick Bosa

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Speaker 1: is a line as a nose guard. Why is he there?

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Speaker 1: He's there to run some kind of stunt, right, So

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Speaker 1: that's what they do if you turn in terms of

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Speaker 1: how they scheme people up, it's what they do on

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Speaker 1: the defensive front. And that was a big part of

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Speaker 1: their win over Green Bay earlier in the season. You know,

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Speaker 1: flipping over to green Bay. You know in this time

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Speaker 1: the situation and Steve you know this in the playoff setting,

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Speaker 1: especially when you get to the second half, it's and

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Speaker 1: become more about players in Ski Okay and the players

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Speaker 1: that look after that offense or Aaron Rodgers and Davante

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Speaker 1: ass So disrespect to Aaron Jones, He's a versatile talent,

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Speaker 1: can impact a run game and the pass game and

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Speaker 1: scoring production is off the charts. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to come down to situations like we saw his

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Speaker 1: Green Bay and they win over to Seattle late in

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Speaker 1: the football game. Aaron Rodgers abilities to make the throw.

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01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: Davante Adams in terms of his route running, his ability

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01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: to separate will be a huge part for Green Bay

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01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: if they're going to advance in the Super Bowl. A man,

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01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: do you think the Packers offense is different now than

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01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: it was a year ago? Or they just added you know,

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01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: are they getting contributions from you guys who weren't around

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01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 1: a year ago. Offensively, schematically it's different. You know, they'll

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01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: do more stuff in terms of pre stamp movement. I

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01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 1: think that's a key part of it too, that you

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01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 1: saw that against Seattle. Another team to compare two is

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01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:54,719
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys where they did earlier in the season

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Speaker 1: against Dallas. When you have speed at the second level

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01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: and athleticism at the linebacker position, you can't just line

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01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 1: up and let these guys read their keys. They'll come

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01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 1: downhill all day and they'll take away everything you want

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01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 1: to do. So jet motion, wide receiver, fake reverses, pre

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01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: snap motions and ships to try to grab some eyes

2115
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 1: in the second level and give you an edge because

2116
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna need some mope window throwers for Aaron Rodgers,

2117
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna need some mope window throwers, especially against the

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01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 1: zone heavy defense like San Francisco. So the answer your question,

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01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 1: they are you know, I think Aaron Jones took a

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01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: big step forward this year under Matt Lafour, became more

2121
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 1: of a feature back, which is a key to that offense.

2122
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 1: But also schematically, they are different to me. Who do

2123
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: you give the edge in this game? I'll give it

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01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,560
Speaker 1: to San Francisco. I mean I do just because you

2125
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: know we didn't hit on their offense. What they can do,

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01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: how they marry the past game and run games together,

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01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: how they have multiple backs who can get touches, what

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01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,719
Speaker 1: they do in the offensive line, how they use fullback

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01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 1: Kyle uthcheck George Kittle Won as a run blocker, who

2130
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: is outstanding when you turn on the film. And also,

2131
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: I think the best tight end in the NFL right

2132
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: now in terms of route running ability. And they they

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01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: do is they scheme middle the field throws. Jimmy Garoppolo

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01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: right now is completing seventy or three percent of his

2135
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: passes on throws inside the numbers. I think he's four

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01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 1: foall in the National Football League and totally yardage on

2137
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 1: throws inside the numbers. So again, you know, same coaching

2138
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 1: tree as Matt Lafloor. You know a little different because

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01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 1: they use more twenty one personnel, which is two running backs,

2140
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: one tight end of the game to get a use

2141
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 1: check on the field. But they're going to scheme open

2142
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: window throws from Garoppolo. One thing I will add to

2143
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: that once you've seen him from Garoppolo this year. There's

2144
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: one negative to his game, and sometimes he doesn't see

2145
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 1: or read those underneath defenders. He saw it last week

2146
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,680
Speaker 1: when Eric Kendricks, the Minnesota linebacker make the play. He

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01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 1: saw it earlier in the season versus the Cardinals on

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01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 1: his own blitz Seattle did it to him earlier in

2149
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 1: the season. Green Bay has to find a way to

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01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: either show pressure and buzz those linebackers are out or

2151
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 1: have them in a position where they can drive into

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01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 1: those throwing Knights to try to make it play because

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01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: I think green Bay defensively as multiple as they are,

2154
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 1: and Mike Patton has has to find a way to

2155
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,600
Speaker 1: steal a couple of possessions in this game, Live on

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01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 1: the Line with Matt Bowen, the ESPN NFL Insider, the

2157
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 1: co host of NFL Matchup on the ESPN, former NFL

2158
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: safety and played a year with the Buffalo Bills. The

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game three oh five on Sunday, Kansas City

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Speaker 1: home against Tennessee m What do you make of that game?

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01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: In a particular, what do you make of the Week

2162
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 1: ten game between these two, the game that saw the

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01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: Titans beat the Chiefs by three points. It's hard to

2164
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 1: that happening again, isn't it? It is it is, But look,

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Speaker 1: if you go back to the week ten game, Derrick

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01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: Henry had one hundred and eight eight yards rushing. Okay,

2167
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: I expect Derrek Hendry to have another one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty yards this week. I really do you know? The

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01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City run defense is they're not a dominant front

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Speaker 1: against the run. And Derrek Henry's gonna get his twenty

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01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 1: five carries, maybe thirty carry. But what they did in

2172
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 1: that game and what I think they need to do,

2173
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: and you saw it against Baltimore, play action, take your

2174
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,719
Speaker 1: shots down the field. They did it with Calif Raymond

2175
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: against Baltimore. They did with Clif Raymond against Kansas City.

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01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to create some explosive places. Now, it's

2177
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: one thing, and we all know football. You can say, look,

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01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: they could they can control Temple and keep the ball

2179
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Speaker 1: away from Patrick Mahomes. Even if you do that, Mahomes

2180
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 1: is still to get eight or probably nine possessions in

2181
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 1: Kansas City can score in four plays. We've seen them

2182
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: do that. They don't need a control Temple. We saw

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01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: it last week against Houston, So can you take your

2184
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: shots over the top. And from a defensive perspective, Steve,

2185
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 1: you know this, If Kalif Raymond is in the game,

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01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 1: why is he in the game? Right? Why is he

2187
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 1: in the game. He's not in the game the block.

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01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that right now. He's a four or

2189
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: three nine guy can get down the field and they

2190
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: will take their shots there. And also a J. Brown. Look,

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01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 1: I know what they've done the last two weeks. I

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01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 1: think Danny Hills thrown for like a total of one

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01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,839
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty hundred and sixty passing yards in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's enough to be Kansas City that.

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01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: I think you need to score points, and the score points,

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01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to throw the football a little bit.

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01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,640
Speaker 1: But they can do that because they show so much

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Speaker 1: run game with Derrick Henry. That's when you use the

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Speaker 1: play action game to try to take some shots over

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01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 1: the top. Now, I was gonna ask you too. You

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Speaker 1: say they're gonna have to score points, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: But can their defense get enough stops for the Kansas

2203
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense? I mean that's I mean you're gonna have

2204
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: to get you know, some of those to win this game.

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01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Even if you're fishing and you score on every drive,

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01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 1: if you don't get you know, if you get half

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01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: your drives or touchdowns and half of them or field

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Speaker 1: goals or whatever the combination may be. Did the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans have to score every time they have the ball?

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01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 1: Or can they get some stops on Kansas City? Well, Steve,

2211
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to get stops in the first place.

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Speaker 1: I look at safety Kevin Byer matched up to Travis Kelsey.

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01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 1: That was the biggest issue for Houston last week. They

2214
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: didn't have a player who can match up to Kelsey.

2215
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: They tried corn Lonnie Johnson and they try to safety

2216
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 1: did not work. They stayed in man coverage. They lined

2217
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: in man coverage and showed Patrick Mahomes where his matchups were.

2218
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 1: And one thing against Kansas City, what do you have

2219
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 1: to take away crossers, shallow crossers and deep over ups.

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01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 1: That's on every film. You have to take those away,

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01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: whether that player means playing man one high. You know,

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01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 1: one thing Tennessee will do is play some two deep

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01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: coverage and they bring pressure off it and I call

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Speaker 1: it simulated pressure. It turns out to be a four

2225
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:52,759
Speaker 1: man rush for that fourth rusher could come from anywhere.

2226
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: You'd be a cornerback blitz, they could be a linebacker,

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01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 1: and then they can grab someone out of the crowd

2228
01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: and rush. You just don't know where he's where the

2229
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: person's going to home from. That's one thing they do

2230
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: in their terms of their simulated pressures to try to

2231
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 1: get a free runner and be safe over the top

2232
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 1: of two deep covers. They're very versatile in the secondary.

2233
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,520
Speaker 1: They use a lot of dime personnel because of that versatility,

2234
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,839
Speaker 1: and I think they have to at least cloud those covers.

2235
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 1: Looks a little bit for Patrick Mahomes because like I said,

2236
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get stop to the one plants

2237
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 1: that look. And the matchup I can't wait to see

2238
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,799
Speaker 1: is Kevin Byrd. I think it's the most underrated safety

2239
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL against Travis Kelsey. That's the matchup I

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Speaker 1: want to see. Just a couple of minutes upt with

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01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen, the co host of NFL Matchup on ESPN,

2242
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: and we want to talk a little bit about the draft.

2243
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: It's a little more than three months away. Joe Burrow

2244
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: did nothing to dissuade the Bengals for anybody else for

2245
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 1: that matter, from drafting him high, if not number one

2246
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 1: overall on April twenty three, What do you think of

2247
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: his performance? Man, Well, I thought it messed with everything

2248
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: you saw in film through the regular seat and Greg

2249
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 1: and I at NFL matchup and started to look into

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01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 1: the college process a little bit. Obviously we'll get into

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01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: more after the Super Bowl. But Joe Burrow. You know

2252
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: one thing that I think is great about his film

2253
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,560
Speaker 1: is he plays in a pro style offer. You know

2254
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 1: what Joe Brady, who's now the new coordinator with the

2255
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, brought there was a pro style system from

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01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints, and he ran it perfectly. He

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01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 1: doesn't have a huge arm, and I don't think you

2258
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 1: need a huge arm in this office. For about anticipation,

2259
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 1: finding open windows ball plays and putting touch in the ball,

2260
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 1: being able to drive the ball in intermediate throws. And

2261
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 1: one thing I really love about him is what he

2262
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: does in the pocket. He doesn't show a lot of panic,

2263
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,640
Speaker 1: his eyes are always up. He's an easy mover in

2264
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,799
Speaker 1: the pocket. He saw his athleticism in the National Championship

2265
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: team when he could pull the ball down and run,

2266
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: but also what he can do the slide climb and

2267
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 1: a void pressure in the pocket he has. He's gonna

2268
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,839
Speaker 1: check all the boxes in terms of a draft profile,

2269
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 1: because I believe he will test well. He's got the

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01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: film to prove it. He's a national champion, he played

2271
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 1: in the pro style system. To me, that sounds like

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01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: a number one overall pick. How much did he benefit

2273
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 1: from having great athleticism around him and you know, still

2274
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 1: being able to compete at that level, certainly in the

2275
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: National championship game, but you know LSU didn't always play

2276
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 1: Clemson in Alabama every week. Can he do it when

2277
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: the athleticism is maybe not in his favor? That's a

2278
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: great question. It's a fair point because they have NFL

2279
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: talent at wide receiver. They have NFL talent the offensive

2280
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 1: line at LSU. But I will say, you know, when

2281
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:27,640
Speaker 1: you look at his high profile games, you have to

2282
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 1: look at that too. What he did against Clemson Abama matters.

2283
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 1: But again, most like theason to go to Cincinnati, a

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01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,560
Speaker 1: team that will be in the second year of a

2285
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 1: new head coach, still rebuilding. He will have ups and downs.

2286
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 1: I think fans have to understand that he will have

2287
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: times where he looks young in experience, just like we've

2288
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 1: seen with Josh now he will have times he looks

2289
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 1: young experience. That's why he had to look at the tools,

2290
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 1: the developmental track, and where he projects once you start

2291
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: to build around him with the right talent that fits

2292
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 1: his game and the right system that fits his game.

2293
01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 1: But based off his college film and what I saw

2294
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 1: in the high profile games, there's a lots of like

2295
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: there everything. Obviously, again I can't comment on everything. I'm

2296
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 1: not down there with the coaching staff, but he seems

2297
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 1: very coachable to me and that is a very positive

2298
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 1: trait to have. And last thing, man, it would seem

2299
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,879
Speaker 1: the Bills would be interested in a receiver justin Jefferson

2300
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 1: for LSU t Higgins for Clemson. What do you think

2301
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 1: of those two and how do they compare with each other?

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01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 1: Do you think it's interesting? You know, te Higgins more

2303
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 1: of a straight line, straight line player who can make

2304
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: plays in contested throws or fifty fifty throws down the field,

2305
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: has enough versed after the catch, obviously has the frame

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Speaker 1: to win outside the numbers. And when Jefferson is a

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Speaker 1: guy I think you can move around, someone can play

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Speaker 1: in the slot. And it's interesting to bring up about

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01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo adding a wide receiver and what type of traits

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01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: they're looking for when you look at their current roster,

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01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 1: someone that when you put them together with Beasley John Brown,

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01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,560
Speaker 1: what type of traits. So maybe it will be a

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01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 1: guy like a te Higgins who has different traits, has

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Speaker 1: more third down ability in terms of being able to

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01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 1: box out a defensive back has more upside in the

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01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: red zone that can win those one on one matches.

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Speaker 1: That's the name I would circle early in the draft

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Speaker 1: process for Buffalo. A lot more draft talk to come. Matt.

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Speaker 1: We thank you for this, Thanks for talking with us.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk again sometime. We appreciate it. Thanks Matt. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Thanks Matt bo and ESPN NFL Insider co

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Speaker 1: host of NFL Matchup on ESPN with our buddy Greg

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01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 1: Cosell here on Friday's played seven seasons at safety in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, including the O six season with the Buffalo Bills. Boy,

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Speaker 1: he covered a lot of territory draft championship games. Bills. Yeah, Keekley,

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Speaker 1: did we missing national championship College d Yeah, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Matt. Must be his job we're taking a break.

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Speaker 1: We're coming back. One Bill's Live, presented by Collat of

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Speaker 1: Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bill five, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Got an interesting day here today. Got a

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01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: good question up on Twitter. Let's check the Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: Which pending free agent is the biggest priority for the

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Speaker 1: Bills to sign moving forward? This is a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: a couple of months away also, but it's worth having

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Speaker 1: a discussion. Now, there's a list of a long list

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Speaker 1: of free agents for the Bills, but we chose four.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you think somebody else belongs on this list. Two,

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01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 1: But which pending free agents should be the biggest priority

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Speaker 1: for the Bills to resign? Forty eight percent you say

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01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 1: it should be guard Quentin Spain. Twenty seven percent say

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01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 1: it should be defensive end Shack Lawson, twenty two percent

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle Jordan Phillips. Three percent say cornerback Kevin Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty Sending a tweet, voting the tweet Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: or sending a tweet. We can read them on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills from Mark Lawson and

2350
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 1: Phillips had good years, great years for the first time

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Speaker 1: in their careers and contract years. I think they're a

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01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 1: huge risk to resign. Does he mean it'd be a

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01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 1: risk to resign them. I don't see that. Yeah. Yeah,

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01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: I think they're good guys first and foremost the Bills

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01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 1: knowing better than anybody now after a couple of years here,

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01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be a reason not to

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Speaker 1: sign him. Well, he might go in the tank now

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Speaker 1: that he's got the big contract. First of all, I

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01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 1: don't think either one is in line for a huge

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Speaker 1: break the bank type contract. Secondly, I just don't think

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Speaker 1: that's fair to think of them like that. They've shown. Look,

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01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: they played well in a contract year. There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with that, by the way, most people would. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they go in the tank next, does it?

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Speaker 1: Or does it? Am I being naive again, Steve? No,

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Speaker 1: I think there's always a risk. People have been accusing

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Speaker 1: guys of that since big contracts came a thing, and

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Speaker 1: so I think a lot of people are concerned about it.

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01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: I think they're also concerned that it took all of

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Speaker 1: these confluence of events to come together for these guys

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Speaker 1: to put together a season like this. Jordan Phillips was

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01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 1: a second round draft pick and the team that drafted

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01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 1: him cut him loose. That says something about what they

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01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 1: thought of him and what he didn't when whatever happened there.

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Speaker 1: You can you can dissect that all you want, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. And both Sean McDermott

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01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean has said they would love to have

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Speaker 1: these guys back. But let's face it, free agency is

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01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 1: all about We've seen it every year and we're gonna

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01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 1: can see it this year. Teams overpay for players and

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01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 1: their production, and the Bills have not done that to

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Speaker 1: this point. They have gotten guys they've wanted. You can

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01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 1: make him. You can make a case for guys not

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01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: being living up to their contract. In fact, the guy

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Speaker 1: that they one of the first guys they signed with

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Speaker 1: Starlo tu Lela. Now's his statistics don't really match up

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01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: to like, he doesn't get sacks, he doesn't get pressures

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01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: and that stuff, but the guy is on the field

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01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 1: a Ton and what he does is allow other guys

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Speaker 1: to make plays. And you can make that case, and

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01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 1: you can make it a case if you want for

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01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Philips or Shack Loston to be in that boat

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01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 1: as well. They're contributors. But this is a team that

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01:57:55,960 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 1: has not overpaid for guys. And if they get to

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01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: the free agent market, which we both think they will,

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01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 1: if it's for the right price, they're gonna bring these

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Speaker 1: guys back and help. And if they don't bring them back,

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01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna have hard It's gonna be sad to see

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Speaker 1: him go, and they're gonna be bummed about it, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a function of business. Is not going

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01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,160
Speaker 1: to be an emotional decision. Here's a tweet from Jack

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Spain is the guy. Forty eight

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Speaker 1: percent of the people on twitter poll agree Spain is

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01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 1: a guy. Jack says, keep the line together and Jelly,

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01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 1: he was a pleasant surprise this year, wants to return.

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01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be that price you to keep. Shack will get

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01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,440
Speaker 1: paid due to the priority the NFL puts on pass rushers.

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01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 1: Phillips is good but maybe expendable due to Oliver's rise,

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01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: and Harrison Phillips return. Interesting, those are two considerations down

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01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:42,839
Speaker 1: the stretch. Oliver's rise and we knew that, but Harrison

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01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 1: Phillips does come back, and maybe that makes Jordan Phillips

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01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 1: a little bit easier to walk away from. I think

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01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 1: that's what he's arguing. I think there's a point to

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Speaker 1: be made there. Yeah, and yeah, what's around these guys,

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01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 1: It is certainly gonna make a difference. You don't because

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01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: it all counts. I mean, the fact that they've got

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01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars to spend might change things for them.

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01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 1: They might be able to fudge a percentage or two

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01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: towards one or the other of these guys or to

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Speaker 1: that position group. Maybe. And if it's a turning point.

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01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 1: You'd like to think too, that they've had such a

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01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 1: good experience here over the last time that they've been

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01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 1: here set Shack Lawson and this coaching staff. He was

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01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 1: one of the few guys that has been here before

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01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 1: they got here, and the other guys, Quentin Spain and

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01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:28,640
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips have certainly flourished under this coaching staff. You know,

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01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: you got to think maybe they've got a little affection there,

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01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 1: maybe say yeah, I will take it or maybe the

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01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 1: terms of the deal maybe not that different, maybe the

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01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 1: length or maybe the money, maybe something or other things

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01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 1: differences they're willing to overlook certain things in the contract

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01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 1: because it is a Buffalo contract. Maybe that'll come into play.

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01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 1: But we have to wait and see, because ultimately it's

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01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 1: going to come down to what the players want to

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01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 1: do and whether they want, how much they want to

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01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 1: play here in Buffalo, and how much they don't and

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01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 1: what this club is willing to give them and throw

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01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 1: at that position. Group it and a lot of it

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02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 1: has to do with who else is interested in what

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02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 1: they're willing to pay, quite frankly, yeah, so you kind

2441
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: of sit and wait. One more from the tweet sheet

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02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 1: from the Duke Kevin Johnson. He says is a must sign.

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02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: He will be cheap. You can never have enough decent

2444
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,080
Speaker 1: defensive backs. Argument to be made there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's top priority on the list, and he was

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02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: three percent of our people on the Twitter poll say

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02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 1: he'd be the top priority. But certainly somebody to think

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02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:26,520
Speaker 1: about who's not on the list that are going to

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02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 1: be free agents. Frank Gore, I don't know about that,

2450
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 1: so noris Perry. It's worth thinking about bringing him back,

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02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 1: especially if you need if Frank Gore doesn't come back.

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02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:37,840
Speaker 1: Right So, Noris Perry could have something to say about that.

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02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 1: La Adrian Waddle never got a chance to play with

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02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 1: a preseason injury. Maurice Alexander, pretty reliable special teamer, Julian

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02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: Stanford a very good special teamer, Kurt Coleman, Dean Marlowe.

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02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 1: Depth in the secondary at the safety spot. There are

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02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 1: other considerations. We kind of nailed it down to these

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02:00:54,920 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 1: four though, these top four, right, and it's yeah, I

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02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: think it's you're gonna have to just kind of sit

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Speaker 1: back and wait on this to captain. Now. This is

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Speaker 1: also a team that's going to be in free agency.

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02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:08,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna be out in free agency too. The Bills are,

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02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: and they have shown a penchant for getting those not

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02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 1: the top end, big name free agents, but more the

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02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 1: middle of the road free agents. And they also sign

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Speaker 1: a lot of free agents to these one year proof

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Speaker 1: of deals. They did it with Quentin Spain, and Quentin

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02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,960
Speaker 1: Spain came through for him. Maybe that's the kind of

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02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 1: guy they'll reward. I'll get back to what Brandon Bean

2470
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,560
Speaker 1: said last offseason. The players are going to see who

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02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 1: we pay. Well, if you've got a guy to a

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Speaker 1: one year deal and he hits it out of the park,

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02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 1: is that one of the guys you pay? Is that enough?

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02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 1: Do you offer him another one year deal? Or how

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02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 1: do you handle that? It's an interesting, interesting dynamic because

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02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 1: other free agents will watch that too. So well, listen,

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02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 1: you got this free agent guy, Quentin Spain. You signed

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02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: in one year deal. You're offering me a one year deal,

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02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 1: but when he hit it out of the park, you

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02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 1: didn't even offer him a contract, or he didn't offer

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Speaker 1: him a long term contract. What am I talking about here?

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02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 1: You know? So and maybe they did that to Quentin

2483
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 1: Spain too, So listen, we're gonna give you this one

2484
02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:08,200
Speaker 1: year deal. We can't guarantee you what's gonna happen. Even

2485
02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 1: if he hit it out of the park. We may

2486
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 1: be looking to draft a guard. Maybe they told him

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02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 1: that upfront. If they did find then Quentin Spain knows

2488
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 1: where he stands. But if he comes in and they say, hey, listen,

2489
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 1: if you play well for us, we'll offer you a

2490
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 1: long term deal, well that time has come, yeah, so

2491
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know what those backed conversations are

2492
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,480
Speaker 1: but they mean something to the players that that is

2493
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:32,320
Speaker 1: really important knowledge to have for these players. What you

2494
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:34,600
Speaker 1: were told when you signed a one year deal, or

2495
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 1: what you were told when they didn't pick up yours

2496
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 1: your option. If you're Shack Lawson, what do they tell

2497
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 1: you when they picked you up off the waiver wire

2498
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 1: from Miami? If you're Jordan Phillips, All those conversations really

2499
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 1: have a lot of meaning now when they've played well

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02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:52,600
Speaker 1: and have been whatever contributors they have been, and their

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Speaker 1: contract situation now and from a player's perspective, or if

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you this because because I would know only

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02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:04,040
Speaker 1: I would know as you would know, that means everything.

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02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 1: It means everything. What they told them, what they told them?

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02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 1: And are they willing to now come back remember what

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02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:12,080
Speaker 1: they said? And do they stand up to do they

2507
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 1: stick to it? I get it all right. Let's switch gears.

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Speaker 1: NFL has said goodbye to Andrew Luck, Rob Gronkowski, and

2515
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 1: Luke Keikley Doug Baldwin. Decisions like Keikley's, Gronkowskis and Luck's

2516
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 1: fall under the player empowerment umbrella. Because of the mega

2517
02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 1: contracts high profile players now often receive, guys are more

2518
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 1: financially secure. They can make more money in a shorter

2519
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 1: period of time compared to football players from a generation

2520
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 1: to go, and that gives today's players the freedom to

2521
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 1: walk away from the game on their own terms, with

2522
02:03:56,400 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 1: their health, physical and mental intact, instead of miss hanging

2523
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 1: out and subjecting their bodies to punishment just for a paycheck.

2524
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question before we get to

2525
02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 1: true or falls. Have you ever did you in your

2526
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 1: career or even now, have you ever watched a player

2527
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: um miserably hanging on, subjecting their bodies to punishment just

2528
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 1: for a paycheck. Oh yeah, yeah, you guys, you don't

2529
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 1: want to mention not not just for the paycheck, well,

2530
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, but some of it, some of it

2531
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 1: was listening. It was a great way of life. Yeah,

2532
02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna say, and guys wanted to maximize him. Okay,

2533
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 1: the didn't you know at that point you're young and

2534
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 1: you're twenty, you don't really at that point, guys were like,

2535
02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't you know if I have

2536
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 1: a bad if you get my hip replaced when I'm

2537
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 1: fifty five or sixty, I don't care. I want to play.

2538
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 1: I've got a chance to make seven figures. It's a

2539
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's a life changer. Guys hung on hard

2540
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 1: to their career. Guys really didn't it. Larry Fitzgerald's coming

2541
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:51,400
Speaker 1: back for year seventeen. And I've said this before and jokingly,

2542
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 1: but it's kind of true. It rarely ends well for

2543
02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 1: the great ones because they're all about overcoming challenges. They

2544
02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: don't know how to let go. But maybe it's changing though.

2545
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:02,640
Speaker 1: Maybe the great Ones have a pocket full of money

2546
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 1: and enough health to say that that's enough. Yeah, And

2547
02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 1: you know why, at this day and age, it's easier

2548
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 1: to keep track of guys and what they're like after

2549
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 1: the game. There's a lot more social media presence. There's

2550
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 1: a lot more guys out there who have who the

2551
02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:21,120
Speaker 1: information is out there now, Guys who have played for

2552
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 1: a while, and who've made a certain amount of money,

2553
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 1: you can go back and say, well, he made about

2554
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: as much as I did. What's he doing? You can

2555
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 1: find out word is out there and guys have done it,

2556
02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:31,280
Speaker 1: and certainly guys have done it before you now to

2557
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 1: a certain extent where you can say, wow, I see

2558
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 1: how he's doing. That looks a little better to me

2559
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 1: than trying to squeeze out another year of my deal.

2560
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 1: Players inherently trust other players, and when you see a

2561
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't say he is listening, here's what I did.

2562
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 1: I had this, I signed this contract. I did this

2563
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: with my money. My wife and family are here, we

2564
02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:53,320
Speaker 1: built this house here, we're making this life here, and

2565
02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 1: this is what I'm at and this is what I'm

2566
02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: making and how I'm making it work. Guys are like, yeah,

2567
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 1: I like that, or it's like, you know what, I'm

2568
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna get to that point and I'm gonna do it,

2569
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:04,080
Speaker 1: or you know what, I need a little more than that.

2570
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 1: I need to I need to keep playing another year. Whatever.

2571
02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:08,840
Speaker 1: They compare themselves and you see other guys who have

2572
02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 1: gone down that road, and there's more information out there

2573
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:14,880
Speaker 1: about guys who have had great experiences and guys who

2574
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:18,080
Speaker 1: have messed it up bad, and that is a great

2575
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:19,760
Speaker 1: teaching tool for the guys who are coming up and

2576
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 1: the guys who are going through it right now back

2577
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 1: to the and it does affect their ability to or

2578
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:26,720
Speaker 1: their desire to stay in the game or not. I

2579
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 1: agree with all that a player empowerment era is taking

2580
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:32,640
Speaker 1: over the NFL. Two or false. I think it's a

2581
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 1: little bit overstatement. I don't think it's taken over the NFL,

2582
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:37,440
Speaker 1: but I think it is here. Players are more power.

2583
02:06:37,480 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go false just because I don't like the

2584
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 1: wording of the questionnaire. It's not taken over the NFL.

2585
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:46,120
Speaker 1: It's not the overriding movement in the NFL, but certainly

2586
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 1: there is a player empowerment era that is developing. And

2587
02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 1: by the way, I think it's a pretty good thing.

2588
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:55,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say true because the league's always

2589
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:58,040
Speaker 1: been that way and you just didn't realize it, and

2590
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 1: players didn't realize it. Now they do. Players. Here's the thing,

2591
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 1: they always said, Hey, you know that the league takes

2592
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 1: advantage of these players that didn't listen. The players have

2593
02:07:06,680 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 1: always had the ability to say no, thank you, And

2594
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 1: now they're realizing it, and that is a big pill

2595
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 1: for guys to swallow. And I think for the first

2596
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,360
Speaker 1: time in the history of the game, you're seeing a

2597
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 1: rash of great players say no, thank you to being

2598
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:25,040
Speaker 1: a rock star. That's a big moment in the NFL.

2599
02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 1: And I think it's a shift in a paradigm shift

2600
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, not everybody, because everybody can

2601
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:32,640
Speaker 1: say yes too. Yeah. And I think mostly I don't

2602
02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 1: think it's been that widespread that people are making that.

2603
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: Before this, it was never even a thing. Right now

2604
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:43,200
Speaker 1: it is, And maybe it's an oversight and say taken over.

2605
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a thing now for the

2606
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: first time. I think no is actually a choice. In

2607
02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 1: decades past, it was not. I make this. I make

2608
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 1: the same mistake, the same argument about NCAA athletes, so

2609
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 1: they don't pay those I said, well, they don't play, well,

2610
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:04,520
Speaker 1: they really don't have any choice. If they want to play,

2611
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:06,720
Speaker 1: they gotta play. That's the only place they can't. They

2612
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:08,840
Speaker 1: can't play in the pros let Yet they're not old enough.

2613
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:11,480
Speaker 1: They have no choice. They have to say yes. That's

2614
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:13,000
Speaker 1: the way it was in the NFL for a long

2615
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:15,080
Speaker 1: time too. If you want to make a really good buck,

2616
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 1: there's only one place, like ten times the national average,

2617
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 1: There's only one place to do it. You had to say, yes, Now,

2618
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:25,880
Speaker 1: these guys can make ten times in national average sitting

2619
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:29,240
Speaker 1: on what they've already made. That is new. Here's a

2620
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:30,760
Speaker 1: part two of true or false, and we got to

2621
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,840
Speaker 1: get through this one quickly. NFL analyst Tony Romo is

2622
02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 1: worth fourteen million dollars. There's a report out there that

2623
02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:40,080
Speaker 1: ESPN is preparing to offer Romo somewhere between ten and

2624
02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars to do Sunday night foot or Monday

2625
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:46,120
Speaker 1: night football games on the ESPN. Leave CBS and do that.

2626
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:49,120
Speaker 1: True or false? Well it's false, by the way, Can

2627
02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 1: I say this. I like Tony Romo. He's done a

2628
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 1: good job. I think he's kind of the thrill is

2629
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:56,840
Speaker 1: gone for me and Tony Romo. I don't think he's

2630
02:08:57,520 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's working hard at it, and he's as

2631
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:01,800
Speaker 1: good as any he's as good as anybody in these games.

2632
02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:04,440
Speaker 1: But he's not special like he was when he first started.

2633
02:09:04,480 --> 02:09:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't see that anymore. False. I'm

2634
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 1: saying there's only one answer if they pay him he's

2635
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 1: worth it. He that's all there is to it. You

2636
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: don't have to do it, y'all have to do is

2637
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:17,080
Speaker 1: what you're doing. If you're earning it, that's what you're worth,

2638
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 1: and that's what the market bears. If they think they

2639
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 1: need him on Monday Night Football and they think it

2640
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 1: will move the needle, it probably is worth it because

2641
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 1: that's a big, big needle. You move that needle a

2642
02:09:28,120 --> 02:09:30,880
Speaker 1: notch or two and it's ten times worth what he's

2643
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 1: you know it's worth. It is worth ten times what

2644
02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 1: they're paying him. If it's fourteen million, if he moves

2645
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:38,360
Speaker 1: the needle on Monday Night Football, that's the that's the

2646
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:41,920
Speaker 1: revenue it'll generate. So yeah, if they pay him, if

2647
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 1: they think he'll move the needle that much, you bet

2648
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 1: you and you think that much, I don't. I'll take

2649
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 1: from where it was has been he from where from

2650
02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:55,240
Speaker 1: Burgram McFarlane and Gene Steretor or Joe Tests Joe Testator.

2651
02:09:56,720 --> 02:09:59,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think it'll change people's habits. I don't

2652
02:09:59,880 --> 02:10:02,360
Speaker 1: thin Monday Night Football will ever be what Monday Night

2653
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:05,080
Speaker 1: Football used to be. But go ahead of ESPN, PAM

2654
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:07,440
Speaker 1: and knock yourself out. I got a breakcare We're coming

2655
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:09,640
Speaker 1: back with more. One Bill's Line, presented by Klatta Hell

2656
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:12,560
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio on Archer Park. This is Buffalo

2657
02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:27,400
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. I learned from today's show. It is brought

2658
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 1: to you by Moment, Give me a Moment. It is

2659
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:34,600
Speaker 1: brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental

2660
02:10:34,680 --> 02:10:37,920
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. We had a couple of

2661
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:40,440
Speaker 1: good guests today, pretty good show today actually, and our

2662
02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:45,240
Speaker 1: first guest was from ESPN. Field Yates. Yeah, Field Yates

2663
02:10:45,320 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 1: joined us from ESPN dot com. Ipologist would being so

2664
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:50,200
Speaker 1: out of it right now. We were, we were all

2665
02:10:50,200 --> 02:10:53,160
Speaker 1: over the map today, so we're a little bit discombobulated here.

2666
02:10:53,280 --> 02:10:56,320
Speaker 1: Field Yates talked about the importance of a consistent coaching staff,

2667
02:10:56,400 --> 02:11:00,600
Speaker 1: keeping the Bills coaches together. Here's field Yates, not that

2668
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:07,720
Speaker 1: guys can't accept and adapts and handle change, but it's hard.

2669
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're trying to learn each year from

2670
02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:14,600
Speaker 1: the mistakes you made last year or the areas you

2671
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:17,280
Speaker 1: struggled last year. Well, Benuan has been in the entire

2672
02:11:17,320 --> 02:11:20,440
Speaker 1: offseason learning to speak a new language, learning a new system,

2673
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:22,840
Speaker 1: trying to communicate in a way you're not accustomed to.

2674
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:26,840
Speaker 1: That's just hard. And I think Brian Dayball would have

2675
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:29,520
Speaker 1: been a fine, fine coaching decision for the Browns if

2676
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:32,120
Speaker 1: you want that direction. But the bill should feel fortunate

2677
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 1: to have him back for a fourth season, just like

2678
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:36,920
Speaker 1: they should be the same way about Leslie Fraser and

2679
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 1: obviously Sean McDermott. Continuity is really a key up there

2680
02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:42,880
Speaker 1: in Buffalo right now. Also, what have we learned today?

2681
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen joined us earlier this hour and the man

2682
02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 1: from NFL Matchup on ESPN talked about Luke Keakley's announcement

2683
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 1: overnight that he's retiring from the National Football League at

2684
02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 1: age twenty nine. I don't know if it's the trend, guys,

2685
02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:59,160
Speaker 1: but you saw with Katick Willis as well, from a

2686
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:01,680
Speaker 1: linebacker from the forty nine ers. You play that middle

2687
02:12:01,760 --> 02:12:05,919
Speaker 1: linebacker position, how physical it is and how many collisions

2688
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:09,360
Speaker 1: you take week to week just taking on iso block,

2689
02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:12,040
Speaker 1: tackling the open field. I think it can add up

2690
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 1: over time. And Keickley had had injuries. You know, he

2691
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 1: had previous concussions. I can clearly understand the move. I

2692
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 1: applaud his career. One of my favorite players to watch

2693
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 1: when he put on the defensive film. There's no question

2694
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:27,360
Speaker 1: about that. Ultimate team leaders. Just the way he played. Now,

2695
02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm not in the film room with him, I'm not

2696
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 1: in the weight room in Carolina, but to see the

2697
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 1: way he played in the field, the way his teammate

2698
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:37,520
Speaker 1: gravitated to him on the field, that is to me

2699
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:42,000
Speaker 1: as the ultimate pro Keickley getting plenty of respect from

2700
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:45,800
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen. We got us. We got a first real

2701
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:48,920
Speaker 1: discussion about free agency today. We're really months away from

2702
02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:51,560
Speaker 1: serious free and see talk, but we learned that. We

2703
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:53,960
Speaker 1: put the question up what pending free agents should be

2704
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 1: the biggest priority for the Bills to resign this offseason,

2705
02:12:57,360 --> 02:13:00,760
Speaker 1: and the winner Quentin Spain forty nine sent about respondent

2706
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:04,000
Speaker 1: say Quentin Spain is the guy, twenty seven percent said

2707
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:06,920
Speaker 1: Jack Lawson, twenty two percent say Jordan Phillips, two and

2708
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 1: a half percent say Kevin Johnson thirty votes in Okay,

2709
02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:11,520
Speaker 1: So what do you attribute that? I don't know. I'm

2710
02:13:11,520 --> 02:13:14,040
Speaker 1: a bit surprised. I guess it's because people think, Hey,

2711
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 1: we can't afford to lose anything on often I think

2712
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:19,360
Speaker 1: the offense seems fragile. You don't want to lose a

2713
02:13:19,400 --> 02:13:22,920
Speaker 1: guy who played so well for you and your defense.

2714
02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:29,560
Speaker 1: You know, Jack Lawson, Jordan Phillips, Ed Oliver Star, Lotulelee,

2715
02:13:29,800 --> 02:13:33,640
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy. All those guys were rotated through, so it's

2716
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:35,440
Speaker 1: hard to pick a star out of there. But when

2717
02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 1: you start plucking guys off the offensive line we've saw

2718
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:41,560
Speaker 1: in the last year, and that turns into disaster real quick.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to our production assistants George blast, Cheff Colt, Nick Thomas,

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