1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: here on the Really is the start of free agency, Buck, 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: I guess officially because players can sign today. But man, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: it's just about over, don't you think it seems like 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: it seems like going to the grocery store right now 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: and you're looking for paper tiles or toilet paper. There's 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: nothing left. All the notable names are gone. Everybody is 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: already off the shields, and we know where the majority 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: of the big names are going. So it's been an 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: interesting two days. Uh, the legal tampering period has delivered 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: a lot of fireworks in trades, and so I can't 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: wait to jump in and talk about some more ties. Alright, Well, 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: let's get to the big ticket item here, because it's 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: not signed yet. Everything's agreed to though, and uh, it 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: looks as though Tom Brady has decided to go to Tampa. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be Tom Brady uh linking up with 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians and uh and really a big time set 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: of receivers there when you look at what he has 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: with my Kevin's and Chris Godwin. Uh, just your impressions 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: on on why you think he went there and how 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: do you like to fit well. I mean, I think 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: he went there because he wanted a better supporting cast. 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: I think he wanted an opportunity to play with um 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: some playmakers that could elevate his game as his game 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: is beginning to the climb. Uh, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: O J. Howard Um, they have weapons galore on the outside, 28 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: and so that should make life easier for him as 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: he's pushing the ball down the field or working in 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: between the numbers as he's been known to do. With 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, you have a coach who is uh more 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: of a collaborator based on his experience in the past 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: with Ben Roethlisberger, Payton Manning, Uh Andrew Luck, what he 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: did with Carson Palmer. Um. He is a guy that 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: has a way of being demanding of his quarterbacks but 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: also being able to kind of meet them halfway and 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: do some things that enable them to play at their best. 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: And so I think when you're Tom Brady and he 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: people have talked about this being aspirational move, a move 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: to kind of put yourself out there and challenge yourself 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: to be the best that you possibly could be. You 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: want to go to a situation where you feel like 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: you have the support needed to play at the level 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: that everyone is going accustomed to seeing you play, and 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: so Tampa gave him the best opportunity to do that. Now, 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think a big part of it too. 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: He was mentioned and reported about the fact that has 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: a son and uh in New York and wanted to 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: remain on the East Coast. I think that probably factored 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: into it as well. Um, But when when I look 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: at him and how is he gonna fit? How is 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: he going to be successful there? I love the receivers 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: that we talked about. I think O. J. Howard's gonna 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: be key there. I'd also throw in Cameron break, you know, 55 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: and be able to use some of the two tight 56 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: end stuff camera breaks. It's a really good player. But 57 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: when I look at Okay, now, what do they need? Um, 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: and I look at this group, but they don't have 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: They don't have their James White or their Kevin Falk 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones. You know, we saw him some some glimpses 61 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: last year of what he can be, but he's never 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a big time weapon in the passing game 63 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: and on Brady loves having a back that he can 64 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: get the ball to on checkdowns, find mismatches, get him 65 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: the ball quickly, get the ball out. So I would 66 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: imagine that's gonna be on the do list fort Tampa 67 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: in the upcoming draft. And I look at pick. You know, 68 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: we'll see what they do here with the in the 69 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: first round, they picked fourteen, which is gonna get me 70 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: to another question here in just a second. But I 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: want to go to their second round pick here because 72 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: they pick at forty and to me, maybe you have 73 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: to move up a little bit. But if if you 74 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: were trying to find one player in this draft that 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: would gell perfectly with Tom Brady, it's Clyde Edwards, a 76 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: layer out of l s U And to me, that 77 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: would be I would target if I was Jason Light 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: to kind of fill in this offense around him. But 79 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: but it leads me to my question for you, which 80 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: is now where they're picking at fourteen. I had to 81 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: talk with the general manager this morning and we were 82 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: kicking around the Tom Brady thing, and I said, you know, 83 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating because with at a forty three 84 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: year old quarterback, and of Tampa. You have no long 85 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: term solution at the position you're picking at fourteen, which 86 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be in range probably have a shot at 87 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: a guy like Jordan's love. Um, but are you going 88 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: so all in with Tom Brady that we want to 89 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: use fourteen to try and help us, you know, try 90 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: and see if we can go hoist a trophy here 91 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: in the next year. So we're gonna get somebody to 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: help Tom Brady? Or do you do what's best for 93 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the organization long term and and draft his successor. That's 94 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a fascinating thing to watch. Yeah, it's gonna 95 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: be fascinating, uh, in the team building process because like 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: dj and I'm gonna say this, and I know I 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: sound like Debbi Dyna when it comes to Tom Brady, 98 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: but I think what people have to understand, what you 99 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: get in the leadership and the championship pedigree is outstanding. 100 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: But I still can't forget the images that I saw 101 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: when I looked at the tape last year. When you 102 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: go back and you look at the numbers, like Tom 103 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Brady has been on a steady decline each and every year, 104 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: particularly when it comes to being able to like handle 105 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: the blitz Um. He had like one of the lowest 106 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: completion percentages of anybody in the league against the Blitz, 107 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: like thirty seven. It was the third lowest mark in 108 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. And when you compare that to what he 109 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: did the previous year we completed those past is under pressure. 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: To me, I just worry about his ability to play 111 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: at a high level at this age behind an offensive 112 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: line that hasn't been rock solid. It's not like he's 113 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: playing behind a fortress in front of him in Tampa. 114 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: And I just worry about the older he gets, the 115 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: more he declines, and everyone has an expectation that we're 116 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: going to see Tom Brady of old, and I just 117 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you can put that genie back in 118 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: the bottom. Yeah, it's interesting when you look at at 119 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: this group they have. I think they're good with their 120 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: interior three um the tackle position, I mean, really, they 121 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: don't even have a right tackle right now, Like they've 122 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: got to uh, They've got to address that. So offensive 123 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: line is not great on the edges. And the other 124 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: thing is I think when you mentioned those numbers last year, Buck, 125 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: I think gronks a big part of that. Right. He 126 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: needs guys that can uncover right now. And when you 127 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: look at Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, those are down 128 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: the field weapons. So I would think they need to 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: add somebody else into the mix here that can uncover early. 130 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: And I think that's why, you know, with the roster 131 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: as it is, I think you'll see these tight ends 132 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: get a ton of balls because I don't know that 133 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: they really have that guy that can uncover right now 134 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: with the wide receiver position, more physical down the field guys. 135 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Even though Godwin plays a lot in the slot, that's 136 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: not the typical slot type of player that Brady's had. 137 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: He's had more of the quick, undersized, the Edelman's, the 138 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: Amndola types. Um. So I'm exest to see how this 139 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: whole thing comes together. Yeah, I mean it is challenging 140 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: because right now, like we can laud them for the 141 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: weapons that they have, but I don't know if their 142 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: weapons are necessarily ideal fits for how Tom Brady throws. 143 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: Like when you really look at his game, he works 144 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: inside the numbers. And so you talk about the tight ends, 145 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: the tight ends Cameron rate O J. Howard, they're ver 146 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: very important in terms of work in the middle field 147 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: because that's the line of vision, that's where he's going 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: to throw. That's how he gets ridding the ball versus 149 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: pressure out wide is where tom Brady has struggled of late, 150 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Like last year pass rating was only sixty seven point 151 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: four and he just had a tough time pushing it 152 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: outside the numbers. So Bruce Arians and Tom Brady somehow 153 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: have to get together during this break period. They gotta 154 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: figure out a way to put together an offense that 155 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: works for tom Brady and where he's at. And I'm 156 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: sure they've been digging into the film and Brian left 157 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: Witch and Arians have come up with ideas. But if 158 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: there's not a mini camp period and o t a 159 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: period and they're left to just kind of get it 160 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: done in training camp like they did in two thousand 161 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: eleven with the lockout, this team could start slow out 162 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: the gate until everyone gets on the same page when 163 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: it comes to fitting into how Tom Brady wants to 164 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: play a Let's flip the script to the to the 165 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: Patriots side of this thing, because the question everybody's gonna 166 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: ask is, oh, what are they gonna do? Where they 167 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna go? I firmly believe Jared Stidhem as their quarterback. 168 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Um and everything I've been told is that they believe 169 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Jared Stidham. Um. It very similarly the way they felt 170 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo. They put him on that level where 171 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: they thought, you know, Garoppolo, Brady ordered to shut it 172 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: down early. They would just give it to Garoppolo and go. 173 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: And they have that type of confidence in Jared Stidhoon. 174 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: So they got him in the fourth round. But tool wise, 175 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: and you've we've all seen him throw buck. I mean, 176 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: he's very talented and I think his athleticism he's gonna 177 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: give him something that Tom doesn't have obviously. So I 178 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a little bit different offense which 179 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: did him at the controls there. But I know everybody 180 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: seemed like this guy, go get that guy. I think 181 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: they're starting quarterbacks already on the roster. Yeah, like I 182 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: can believe that. DJ. I think you make a good 183 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: point about Jared Stidhom. I will say this though, Um, 184 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: the Patriots in their history, um, and this on it 185 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: goes all the way back. This is kind of an 186 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: old Al Davis philosophy, right, Al Davis with the Raiders, 187 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: the Lady Davis used to believe in always kicked tires 188 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: on UH discarded top picks. First round picks were picked 189 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: in the first round for a reason, and maybe a 190 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: change of environment, a better UH player deployment can help 191 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: those guys play at the level where they were drafted. 192 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: And so when I think about like people talking about 193 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: the trade for Andy Dalton, UH, they talked about what 194 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks could be available. The Patriots have always been 195 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: a value based organization, low risk, high reward, and so 196 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: as they continue to wait because we talked about the 197 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: quarterback musical chairs, I can't help but think, man, I 198 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: wonder if Jamis Winston is sitting out there for a 199 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: long time, if they kicked the tires on Jamis Winston 200 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have any leverage, he's not gonna command 201 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: top dollar. But if you're able to take that talent 202 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: and maybe as a backup or maybe he gets an 203 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to play, maybe you can get something out of 204 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: that without having to give up trade says for Andy 205 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: Dalton or anybody else. I just think death kind of 206 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,359 Speaker 1: the move that they traditionally made someone that's been discarded 207 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: that they pick up, and then they played differently in 208 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: New England that they had in other places. Yeah, I heard, uh, 209 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I've heard rich Eyes and had a nugget yesterday and 210 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's in our research packet. I haven't had 211 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a chance to go through it yet. Um, but the 212 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: last time the Patriots had somebody started quarterback for them 213 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: who wasn't selected by them in the draft was like 214 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: in the early nineties, which sounds crazy, right, but then 215 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: you think about Bloods in his long run, um really 216 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: kind of going right into Tom. And then when Tom 217 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: missed some time, it was Matt Castle, uh, and then 218 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: it was and it was Garoppolo. So that is insane 219 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: to think that you have not had a game started 220 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: by somebody wasn't drafted by your team in that long 221 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: That's that that to me, that blew my mind. Yeah, 222 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean but I mean me, but it speaks to 223 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: like wanting to like home grown stuff, you know what 224 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like develop your own, put them in your system, 225 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: being there, put him on the practice field, being able 226 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: to really uh know everything about them so you can 227 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,359 Speaker 1: Taylor made the offense to what they do. The Patriots 228 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: for so long have really done a good job of 229 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: And you hear Belichick talking about this all the time, 230 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: don't tell me what a player can't do, tell me 231 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: what he can do, and only ask them to do 232 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: those things. That's why they've had so many, so much 233 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: success with the guys that they've had, like cast offs 234 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: or whatever. When it comes to the quarterback, I think 235 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: the consistency and the stability of their system has enabled 236 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: them to play well with UH homegrown guys. UH since 237 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: two thousand, two thousand women Belichick got there, the playbook 238 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: has remained the same. Despite Charlie Weiss and Bill O'Brien 239 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: and Josh McDaniels and other guys kind of leaving as coordinators, 240 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: the system has always been the same, So that stability 241 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: has enabled guys to grow in the system and for 242 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: them to thrive. And I think it will be the 243 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: same with Jared Stidham. Obviously, Josh McDaniels will find a 244 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: way to kind of cater it to his strength, but 245 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: I would expect him to play Will because everybody who's 246 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: played quarterback for them has played Will set Garoppolo Hoyer, 247 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: anyone who's got an opportunity to drive the car has 248 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: done well. In New England. Yeah, this is a it's 249 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: been a it's been a wild, wild twenty four hours. Buck, 250 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: there's more things beyond Tom Brady. We talked about it yesterday. 251 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: All signs pointed towards Philip Rivers signing with the Colts. UM. 252 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: That is exactly what happened with them on a one 253 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: year deal. UM. The Chargers trying to move on. Um 254 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: after not getting Tom Brady, Philip Rivers has moved on, 255 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: so they did need to address the offensive line. They 256 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: go out and signed Brian Bulaga, the right tackle from 257 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: the Packers, who's reunited with James Camp and his former 258 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: old line coach with the Packers who's now with the Chargers. UM. 259 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: A couple other interesting deals, Buck, Malcolm Jenkins before you 260 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: before you move on, because I know you had conversations 261 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers and I kind of would like to 262 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: dig into debt just a little bit more, Like how 263 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: did Philip feel about the opportunities that are presented in 264 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: front of him in Indianapolis because he's leaving it a 265 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: team in in l A, they had weapons on the outside. 266 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: He doesn't have the same kind of weapons on the 267 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: outside in Indianapolis. He may have a better offensive line, 268 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the weapons on the outside. Like, 269 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: how did he feel about that, or how do you 270 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: feel about that? Haven't watched him each and every week? Yeah, 271 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I said it, and I said yesterday too. Just my 272 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: own personal opinion that they have work to do, and 273 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: I think you'll see Chris Ballard add to that receiver 274 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: position at both in in the days ahead as well 275 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: as once we get into the draft. So they need 276 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: more weapons. I like Jack Doyle is a good tight end. Um. 277 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: I like t Y Hilton, but they need more. Um, 278 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: you've been the kind of the president of the Marlon 279 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: mac fan club. He hinds is a good player, but 280 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: they need more receivers. They need one or two more guys. 281 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: You gotta hope Paris Campbell is going to be healthy 282 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: this year and you can use him in a variety 283 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: of roles. I think Rivers is he's excited about the 284 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: offensive line that they have in place. Um, he's excited 285 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: about the whole culture of the building. Um, you know, 286 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: just the whole thing. I mean, he's Um. He talked 287 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: about how much he enjoyed playing in Indianapolis. Thought, you know, 288 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: really really smart fans. Um. You know when Peyton out there, 289 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: Peyton almost you know, kind of coached up their fans 290 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: where when they had the ball on offense, you could 291 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: hear pen Rock. Um, so he spoke to that, you know, Vin, 292 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: you know the environment there, he's excited about that. Um. 293 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: And then he went off on on how pumped he 294 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: was for the trade for DeForest Buckner. He said that 295 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: was Look, this shows you this team is aggressive and 296 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: they want to win right now, and and you go 297 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: out and get the Forest. Buckner is one of the 298 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: best in the business. So um, Now he's he's excited. 299 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: I kept using the word fired up. I mean, it's 300 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: you can see how Philip Rivers is like that personality wise, 301 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: but he's he's very excited to get there. And I think, 302 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: you know the fact that you're not gonna have an offseason, 303 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows how us all shakes out, buck 304 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: with what's going on with the coronavirus. But this might 305 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: be a situation where teams just show up, you know, 306 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: hopefully at training camp. So no office season. You you 307 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: you going to assist a place where you don't know 308 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: the language, or the system or the people. That's a challenge. 309 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: So the fact that he knows this offense already, he's 310 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: already played in it. He has relationships with the head 311 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: coach and offensive coordinator. UM I think that will make 312 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: that a little bit easier transition. You know. It's funny, DJ, 313 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: I've always felt like the Indianapolis thing was the best 314 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: situation for him, and and I'm gonna say this without 315 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: knowing anything about it, but I do believe Philip is 316 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: at a level where he needed to be coached and 317 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: maybe coached hard. And I think because the relationship that 318 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Frank previously had with him, I think Frank Wright can 319 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of coach him hard. So we've seen the turnovers 320 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: and the turnovers, the bad decisions at the end of games. 321 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: I think the respect factor from quarterback to coach matters, 322 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: and I think Frank can get Philip to understand where 323 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: he is in his career, what his limitations are, and 324 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: to kind of play to that line but not cross 325 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: that line. I think that relationship could help Philip rivers 326 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: played better, even though his skills may be declining. Also 327 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: being able to play in the Dome. He plays a 328 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: nice weather obviously in l A. But I think playing 329 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: in the Dome helps because when you look at their division, UH, 330 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Houston plays inside, Jacksonville plays in great weather. Tennessee only 331 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: late in the year, do you have to worry about 332 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: bad weather? So you're talking about the majority of his games, 333 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: at least ten or more games are gonna be played 334 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: in nice conditions that should help him play at a 335 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: higher level when it comes to his physical ability. Yeah, 336 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: and I I think when you talk about that as 337 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: well as with the offensive line protecting him buck he 338 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: got he was pretty beat up at the end of 339 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: the year last year. Um, So I think just him 340 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, being healthy and on his feet, um and 341 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: being indoors all that, all those things add up to, 342 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, a chance to extend his career a little bit. Now. 343 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: He mentioned you know, they did the one year deal. Um, 344 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: but he's you know, he's not he's not thinking about 345 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: ever playing anywhere else. He wants to go there, um, 346 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: play well and earn and earn more years with the 347 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. So, um, you know, I think that's that's 348 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: kind of the game plan there for him. And he's 349 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: going in there with the hope that this is not 350 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: just a one year situation, that he can finish up 351 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: his career there with a couple of good years. No, look, 352 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that's a bad approach for him. 353 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: And I saw this, and I can't take full of 354 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: credit for this, because I saw Matt Hasselbeg talked about this, 355 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: and Matt Hassebek talked about Payton Mann and you talked 356 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: about them coaching up the Indianapolis fans. Well, Matt Hasselbeck 357 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: talked about how Peyton Manning basically coached up the entire 358 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: organization on how to be quarterback friendly. And so he 359 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: talked about how when um, you go out and you're 360 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: a quarterback and you want to get extra reps early 361 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: before practice, the training staff is out there, the equipment staff, 362 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: they have video set up ready to take a bit 363 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: and watch it. And so this is a situation where 364 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: the standard is high for quarterback play, but they also 365 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: do everything in their power to make sure that the 366 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: quarterback is everything he needs to play well. So for 367 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, it's an opportunity for him to continue to 368 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: be the franchise quarterback with all of the things that 369 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: he needs to perform at that high level. So I 370 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: think that is very important as people get comfortable in 371 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: their routines, that the Colts understand the need for a 372 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: quarterback to have a routine. Yeah, no, doubt. I'm axously 373 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: to see how this whole thing comes together and how 374 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: it works out again. Uh, see what happens with the 375 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: offseason here. I want to get your thoughts on on 376 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: a couple of other things here. Um. The Eagles moving 377 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: on from Malcolm jenkins Um is one, and then the Raiders, 378 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: which is kind of an interesting one signing Jason Witten. 379 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: So I think there's some parallels there and that Malcolm 380 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: jenkins Um. I think his leadership it was probably great 381 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: than his level of play as of late, but there's 382 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: a lot of value there. I think that's why that 383 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: was a tough decision for the Philadelphia Eagles to move on. 384 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: And I think similarly, while Jason went and I don't 385 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: think he has a whole lot left buck um, but 386 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: he is a big time, big time culture guy, leader, 387 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: leadership guy um and I think it, but we always 388 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: say it all time like there's there's no such thing, 389 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, as the right plan or the wrong plan. 390 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: It's where they're having a plan and not having a plan. 391 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: So when I look at what the Raiders do, bringing 392 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: in you know Jeff Heath who was a captain, bringing 393 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: in Witton, who's known as is a great leader and 394 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: a captain. Um. You know, Nassives real smart, tough like. 395 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: They have their type, they have their their type of 396 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: people they want in their building, and they're continuing to 397 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: build on what they did last year. I just think 398 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: it's fascinating because it's not just us evaluating these guys 399 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: as players, it's all the other stuff as well. Yeah, DJ, 400 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: I think it's very apparent with the Raiders are doing UM. 401 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: It started last year in the draft. Uh, they're bringing 402 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: people in from championship of cultures, of guys who kind 403 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: of understand how to approach it um like professionals and 404 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: approach it in the manner that is conducive to putting 405 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: the team in a position to win championships. So last 406 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: year they took those guys from Alabama and Clemson and 407 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: has success this year. When you look at the offseason 408 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: and what they've been bringing in, they've been bringing model 409 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: citizens that fit into the fabric of the locker room. 410 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: I think what you're trying to get as a transformation 411 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: of the culture and the locker room a more professional 412 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: and more hard working group. Guys that don't talk a lot, 413 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: but guys that just kind of go to work. And 414 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: I think that's a parent in Jason Witten, Jeff he 415 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: I also think it's a parent and Marcus Mariota. Marcus 416 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: Mariota is quiet, but he's a worker. He's not going 417 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: to stir it up. He's gonna go about his business 418 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: the way that he handled the situation Tennessee when Ryan 419 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Tannehill took over his job. He didn't make waves. And 420 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: I think that's very appealing. As you're building a locker 421 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: room and you wanted to be competitive, you wanted to 422 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: be competitive without and disruptive. And right now, when I 423 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: look into Las Vegas Raiders, they have the people that 424 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: can kind of follow that that mantra. That's where they 425 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: want to be super competitive, but everyone kind of pulling 426 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: the boat in the right direction. Yeah. And I also 427 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: another thing they did is they addressed the linebacker position, 428 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: and we talked about that a little bit. I believe 429 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: yesterday we're bringing Corey Littleton um Um quick Kowski. Bringing 430 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: him in, it takes them away from being pressured to 431 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: take a linebacker. Um they still have that needed wide receiver. 432 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: But you know, this is a draft where we've talked 433 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: about it. You know so much there's gonna be plenty 434 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: of opportunities to address the wide receiver position. Well, I 435 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: think what they've done is I think they've freed themselves 436 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: up to do what everybody would like to do in 437 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: personnel on draft that you would just like to take 438 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: the best players, regardless of positions, the highest ranked guys 439 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: on your board. You just want to plug those guys 440 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: off the board. So now they've taken the pressure off 441 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: of what we don't need to go get a quarterback 442 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: in the first round because we have a guy Marks 443 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: Mariota to push Derek Carr. We'll see what that looks like. Um, 444 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: you talked about little thing and over the linebacker position. 445 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: So maybe we don't need to move around to make 446 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: sure that we get Kenneth Murray or Patrick Queen. We 447 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: can just sit let the board fall to us and 448 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: just take the best players. And I think that is 449 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: always the best approach. It's kind of like going to 450 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: the grocery store when you're hungry versus when you're content. 451 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: When you're hungry, you have a bunch of different stuff 452 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: and you put in the cart. When you content, you're 453 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: able to be a little more focused and take exactly 454 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: what you need and I think for the Raiders, they 455 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: want to put themselves in position where they could shop 456 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: the way they wanted to shop. Well, it's it's a 457 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: great point. And I went to the grocery store hungry, 458 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: hungry about a week ago, buck, and I think I 459 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: have enough food glass me the next three months, I 460 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: did the same. I just wish I had taken um 461 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: toilet paper and paper towels, because that's that's where I 462 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: need to make sure I go and stock up. And 463 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to find that stuff. I know. Man, it's uh, 464 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: it's a hot commodity right now around the world. Um, 465 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: all right, I want to I want to hit on 466 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: something else here. Um, as we kind of up what 467 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about today with these moves. But it was 468 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: talking about this with a couple of guys around the league, 469 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: the challenge of picking players in this upcoming draft that 470 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: weren't uh invited to the combine. And it's not because 471 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: you didn't get forty times you don't care about that, 472 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: but it's because you don't get medical Um, you don't 473 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: get a chance to get a physical on those guys, 474 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: which that's what these visits were for, where you bring 475 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: guys into your building that might not be combined players, 476 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: but you like them and they're they're in the draftable 477 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: range on your board, you bring them in so you 478 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: can get a physical and put a medical grade on 479 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: them before you pick them. We used to always tell guys, 480 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: if we don't have a medical grade on you, you you 481 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: we're not gonna pick you. So you better make time 482 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: in your schedule to come on a visit if we 483 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: invite you, because that's how we get you on our 484 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: draft board. And now that that's gone and um, there's 485 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: some conversation going around on around the league about different 486 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: ideas of how you could try and get this accomplished. 487 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: And it's gonna involve a lot of teams working together, 488 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: all the teams, all thirty two teams working together to 489 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: share information. So instead of let's say you have a 490 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: linebacker at U C. L A. And say you're the 491 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: Washington Redskins and you want to you know, the guy 492 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: wasn't invited to the combine, you want to get a 493 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: medical on him. Um, we're not allow to fly anybody in, 494 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, all that kind of stuff. Well, maybe if 495 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: we could kind of all agree on you know, maybe 496 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: ten or so players um in each area, of the 497 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: in each area around all thirty two teams. That's that's 498 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: three players you could get medicals on if they just 499 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: went to the local you know, hospital there and then 500 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: the facility there and did that, did it there, and 501 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: then share the information with all the other teams. So 502 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: there's discussions like this, a lot of these different things. 503 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: People don't think about the impact of the of the 504 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: coronavirus on the personnel side of things. And I know 505 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: grand scheme of life, it's it's so low on the 506 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: on the on the on the list, but but it 507 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: is something teams you're trying to figure out. Yeah, I 508 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: think they definitely are trying to figure it out. And 509 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: I do believe that there's going to be some kind 510 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: of collaborative effort created UM to enable guys to kind 511 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: of at some of this medical information. A lot of 512 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: it depends on, uh, how long the quarantine last and 513 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: what the state of the epidemic is like in the country, 514 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: But I do believe that you have to start having 515 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: some of these contingencies in place to deal with the 516 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: medical I think the other thing that will come out 517 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: of this um DJ. We both work for a handful 518 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: of front offices and We've had a bunch of different 519 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: scouts that are there, and a lot of times the 520 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: top guy, the director, the general manager, um, they understand 521 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: the strengths and weaknesses of their scouting staffs. This year, 522 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: more than ever, you're going to have to lean on 523 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: your your area scouts that are really, really strong when 524 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: it comes to the evaluation standpoint. Some guys are information gathers. 525 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Other guys are real evaluators, And I think when we 526 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: get down into those lower rounds, you're going to lean 527 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: on the guys from the area that your best scouts 528 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: are located, because you have a better feel for what 529 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: their eyes are and what they typically like and they 530 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: bring in and if you're not able to get multiple 531 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: eyes on that player, like physically doing the fall, you 532 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: can look at the tape now. But I think the 533 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: strong scouts are going to have more, say more pool 534 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: than this draft than they've ever had because guys have 535 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: not been able to fly people in and get to 536 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: know them. And so you're really leaning on your type 537 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: of valuators to kind of circle the guys that we 538 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: need to target, that we need to pick up not 539 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: only in the later rounds but as free agents. Yeah, 540 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: you got to trust those guys, and that's what it 541 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: comes down to. And we'll find out who those strong 542 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: organizations and who those strong staffs are once we get 543 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: to to late April. A couple other things, but we 544 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: talked to the top or a little bit earlier about 545 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins and the Eagles. Looks like he's going to 546 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: return to the New Orleans Saints, So you talk about 547 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: valuing him and leadership and knowing what he brings to 548 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: the table um. That makes sense with him going to 549 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: the Saints and then Drelle Casey traded to the Denver Broncos. 550 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: They've they've been aggressive this offseason. Man. I think they're 551 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: kind of the forgotten team, uh in the a f 552 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: C West. But when you look at the nucleus, h 553 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: the young nucleus they have on offense there, Drew Lock 554 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: showed some some real signs last year with Courtland Sutton, 555 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay, I mean, that's a that is a good, 556 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: good young core they have, and they've added to this 557 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: defense with a J. Boullier. Now you go out and 558 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: get a Darell Casey, very very active group here with 559 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: the Broncos. Yeah, I think what's important about that UH, 560 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: prior to the legal tampering period, starter, the Denver Broncos 561 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: didn't have any starters on their defensive line. They didn't 562 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: have anybody. Everybody was up free. Derek Adam Gostis like 563 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: they needed more people that could play right away at Dural. 564 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: Casey gives them a guy that obviously can start to 565 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: be an impact player in Vic Fangio's defense. So the 566 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: trade for them is terrific. It also enables them to 567 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: go into the draft without having to really pinpoint a 568 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: specific area. I think in my last my draft at 569 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: javon Kin law to them because they didn't have any 570 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: starters right now, it's not as much rush you to 571 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: make sure that they get them. I think what's interesting 572 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: we've talked about this on air and and privately. UH, 573 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: we're seeing more trades than ever in the National Football League. 574 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: And some of that has been driven by we talked about, UH, 575 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: the youth at those leadership positions at general manager, young 576 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: guys have grown up on the road together, more relationships, 577 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: more willing to kind of deal man. We are seeing 578 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: people really used a trade vehicle to really upgrade their team, 579 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: and it's something that is great. I mean, maybe it's 580 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: the fantasy football player in me that loves kind of 581 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: seeing people swap. But I do like the fact that 582 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: people are more willing to trade and exchange players as 583 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: opposed to just hoarden players and picks doing it the 584 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: old school way. That was kind of the way it 585 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: was done when we were working at scouts in the league, 586 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: which was only like five, six, seven years ago. Now 587 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: it is true, and I think you're seeing, um, some 588 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: of this impact. I think it's from studying other sports too. 589 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: I think you're seeing in baseball, um with younger general managers. 590 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of the analytics stuff came into play there, 591 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: but studying them and and and being more willing to 592 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: make these type of roster changes and moves and realizing 593 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of outlets to make your team 594 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: better and taking advantage of all of them. So, uh, 595 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a wild time, man. It's it's gonna 596 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: be fascinating to see once this free agency period kind 597 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: of wraps up over the next couple of days, we 598 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: have the majority of these guys will all be gone 599 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: and all signed. Um, and then where do we go 600 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: from there? Buck We uh, we start really really honing 601 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: in and locking in on the draft, which is something 602 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna do on Friday. We're gonna have our buddies 603 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: Rhett Lewis and UH and Lancer Line are going to 604 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: join us and we're gonna have some fun answering questions 605 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: that you guys have left us on Apple Podcasts. If 606 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: you go into the review section in there, um and 607 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: if you have a question for us, just leave it 608 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: in there, and we're gonna answer a bunch of those 609 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: on Friday as well as have some some fun draft talk. Buck. Yeah, 610 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: I should be a lot of fun. Man. It's been 611 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: a lot of fun just kind of going through this 612 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: the movement, the beginning in league year has brought a 613 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: lot of excitement. Uh. It's spent a lot of free 614 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: agency stuff. But after this week, all eyes will go 615 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: back to the draft, because you know how it goes. 616 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: The first wave of free agency gets to pop and 617 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: then everyone settles in, they reassess the landscape, and then 618 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: they hone in on where they need to pinpoint and 619 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: targing in the draft. Yeah, no doubt. Well we will Uh, 620 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: well have you covered here, be on the lookout again, 621 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: trying to give you as much content as we can 622 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: during this time. 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