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Speaker 2: and I'm in a very tight spot as a podcast

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Speaker 2: better one on. Like already, I like that already. The

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Speaker 3: Though, why are you God's Country podcast?

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Speaker 2: God's Country Podcast is live right now, as you're listening

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Speaker 2: to this, as you're listening through magic of the magic

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Speaker 2: right now. The first episode dropped this past Tuesday. From

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Speaker 2: actual date from your listener perspective listening right now the

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Speaker 2: second episode is coming out tomorrow. If in fact, you

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Speaker 2: listen to this show on the day it comes out, what.

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Speaker 4: Just happened?

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Speaker 2: What happened is bad producing. You take this up with

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Speaker 2: Not with us today. God's Country Podcast will launch on

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Speaker 2: a weekly cadence. First episode January six first episode out

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Speaker 2: January sixteenth. So from there you can just track in

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Speaker 2: So Tuesday releases every Tuesday, right every Tuesday, so you

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Speaker 2: get the Meat Eater Podcast on Monday, God's Country Podcast

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday. I'm sitting here with a collection of folks

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Speaker 2: instrumental in the creation and launching of God's Country, including

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Speaker 2: Dan Reied, Isabelle is bo there who've been on the

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Speaker 6: Where are we talking video show or are we talking podcast?

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Speaker 2: You were on the podcast we recorded one time in

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Speaker 7: There we go, Katie Finch, who has that's the thing

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Speaker 2: put a tonnel work into God's Country podcast and Jordans.

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Speaker 2: Uh, So we're gonna do our normal thing where we

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Speaker 2: Just just talk a little bit about yourself that you

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Speaker 6: Hey man, I heard Jake Owen was cutting. I had

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Speaker 6: What's up, dude?

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Speaker 6: I heard Jake Cowen's cutting? Uh yeah, I've heard.

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Speaker 6: Who told you that?

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Speaker 2: he's got heartbreak songs. Yeah, so he needs a party.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not gonna go. Yeah, because I already know

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Speaker 7: Chances of getting that thing and beating something he already

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, I was fishing the other day and my

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Speaker 2: He said, fresh set of eyes will always find more beans.

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Speaker 4: So what don't we write a song that is.

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Speaker 2: Right, do you have particular specialties within that, yes, Like,

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Speaker 6: Mean it depends on different Different writers have different strengths, right,

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Speaker 7: It's a good example of us sitting right here right now.

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Speaker 4: And do the the ups.

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Speaker 4: And that is my strength.

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Speaker 4: But Dan is I would consider Dan. We can we can.

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Speaker 7: But Dan's strongest specialty that you know, that you say

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Speaker 7: We were going down for a week rut hunt last

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Speaker 7: I was bow hunting, sitting in my stand and I

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Speaker 7: Thought it was a bull hung in a fence, and

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Speaker 2: Why was he grunting because.

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Speaker 4: He was getting eat in a life like it was

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Speaker 7: It was a grunt. It was like a roar, like

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Speaker 7: a like a yeah, it was real. I'll show you

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Speaker 2: Was the coyotes still on him.

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Speaker 7: No, they ran off, tagged him, take him, took him in,

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Speaker 7: cut the backstraps out of him, and then cut his

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Speaker 7: so I didn't we and throwing, you know, just yeah joker, yeah,

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Speaker 7: huh so that was the pair of antlers I was using.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, before going down to the hunt, my dad

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Speaker 2: So you said to that buck, You're like, you won't

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Speaker 4: Dang right, you're gonna help me.

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Speaker 7: Ye went down to Mississippi, ended up not cutting the

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Speaker 7: brow toones off. Last morning, I go in for a

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Speaker 7: sequence and man, I smoked my finger and it's pretty

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Speaker 7: much if you if you took pliers and tried to

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Speaker 7: rip the side of your index finger off, that's pretty.

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Speaker 6: Much what happened.

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Speaker 4: Stitched it up, quick, stitch.

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Speaker 2: I'm chilling bro, when you say a sequence, what do

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Speaker 2: but do you have a philosophy?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Not really, I think uh.

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Speaker 6: The initial you were talking about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sequence.

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Speaker 7: I mean I'm I'm not gonna sit there and bang

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Speaker 7: and I've heard people doing now is is taking two

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Speaker 7: dropping them on the ground from your stand. So when

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Speaker 7: that rope and it's hitting the ground, making leaves move,

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Speaker 2: So that is when they come. You know, people say

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, I've always heard they come,

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Speaker 2: even when we were messing around recently with posturing decoys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, buck decoys in which which way?

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Speaker 2: But when that buck comes in, he's like, got it.

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Speaker 2: I see the decoy, but I know that under that

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Speaker 2: tree there should be another deer. Yeah, I mean they're.

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Speaker 4: Like aware of boat for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't go like, oh, there it is. They're like, well,

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Speaker 2: there he is, But what about what I know should

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Speaker 7: I've always heard that that too. The turkey thing is like,

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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter how far turkey is. If you hit

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Speaker 7: because he's coming. And same thing with a buck. I

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Speaker 7: mean you've rattled in deer before, is you know you better?

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Speaker 7: You better rattle and then set your horns down and

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Speaker 7: get ready because if a buck's if a buck hears

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Speaker 7: got to get over there check it out. He's not

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Speaker 7: taking his time like he's he's gonna rumble in. And

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Speaker 7: that actually is what happened. When this happened, I hit

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Speaker 7: my finger and I wear cut off gloves when I'm

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Speaker 7: And I look up and luckily it wasn't a dear

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Speaker 7: old eight point ran in thirty yards from my tree

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Speaker 7: and just you know, went down window of me checking

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Speaker 7: it out and looking and didn't see anything.

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Speaker 6: Scared us. He said us a picture he was like,

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Speaker 6: got a blood trail and there was blood all over

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Speaker 2: Everybody was like yes.

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Speaker 4: I was like yes from I wish that was because everybody's.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he got one, he shot one.

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Speaker 6: He was like, no, just busted his own ship.

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Speaker 2: There's a we hit it on a thing this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about rattling all hour here,

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Speaker 2: you know that buck, he's gonna know where that rattling

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Speaker 2: Yeah we did. Yeah, I had to. I almost had

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Speaker 4: Down in the Did did come between them on the tree?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, big time? And I had to shoot earlier, and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to because I was watching him at what

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Speaker 6: This guy sounded real desperate to kill a deer here. Man.

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Speaker 7: Gee, that's a big that's a big turkey strategy is

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Speaker 7: the caller if a turkey's not coming in, if he's

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Speaker 7: you know, a good strategy to drop back, to continue

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Speaker 7: to drop back like that hen is walking away, which

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Speaker 2: Uh, Jordan, you you so you tangle up the music

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So I'm a marketing director for label group here in town,

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Speaker 3: Of head up there Nashville.

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Speaker 2: But you can't say who.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Virgin Music Group.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so they're playing people.

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Speaker 8: Is we don't get a discount though at the hotels

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we passed one of their hotels right here here,

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Speaker 2: No discount, no discount. Take the eighth of a mile, yeah,

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Speaker 8: And so yeah, and then kind of helping these guys.

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Speaker 8: Our brains work very differently.

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Speaker 4: Helping is not wrangling is a leading.

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Speaker 6: I mean we just kind of show up and do it.

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Speaker 4: She says lassoing, Yeah, herding, Yeah, hurting.

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Speaker 2: Oh, don't just say were I was in the same house.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, Dan came.

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Speaker 7: No, we do live ten minutes apart from each We

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Speaker 8: But Dan came over this morning. Dan was holding one

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Speaker 8: will not end.

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Speaker 7: Well it was it was eight forty five, and Jordan

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Speaker 7: and I've got sweatpants on a T shirt.

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Speaker 3: She said, nine thirty fifteen, And I just I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I also think being late is like a son of rudeness,

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Speaker 8: and so I am always just like, okay, let's go whatever.

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Speaker 4: And she walked in with a baby. This is weird.

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Speaker 7: I was sitting down like this and my my feet

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Speaker 7: You know, she's we gotta go.

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Speaker 2: You concrete boots on yet? Or I had that No,

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Speaker 2: not yet.

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Speaker 4: Not yet creep. These things are mean.

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Speaker 6: This is cold.

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Speaker 4: But Dan sitting there.

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Speaker 2: Jordan deadly too. If you lived in the North, you

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Speaker 2: know better, dude.

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Speaker 6: My feet are freezing.

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Speaker 2: Eat it too. On ice going, you'll have good working

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Speaker 2: on concrete. That's good.

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Speaker 7: Jordan walked in and goes hey, And this is how,

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Speaker 7: this is why she works with me and Dan and

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Speaker 7: she she walks in and goes, hey, I love you guys.

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Speaker 4: I think you guys are great.

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Speaker 7: She was like, yeah, to go, like, quit talking about

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Speaker 7: in your concrete boots.

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Speaker 3: And they were both like, Okay, what have we gotta do?

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Speaker 8: And I was like, snow needs to get off the truck, Dan,

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Speaker 8: truck read shower, do something and but yeah, so I

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Speaker 8: guess in wrangling these you.

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Speaker 3: Hoo's, it's been fun great.

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Speaker 2: And then Katie, I.

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Speaker 5: Noticed your little about Jordan's common about being late. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that is one of the main things that Steve and

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Speaker 5: I argue about it.

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Speaker 3: So are you always on Tom or.

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Speaker 2: I'm a mint man, dude? You know what a minute

448
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Speaker 2: mann with the American Revolution.

449
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we our kids were talking. They all try to

450
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Speaker 5: be minimum. Our youngest is the only one who.

451
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Speaker 2: Oh dude, he's fast.

452
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Speaker 5: He is always ready for school on time. Anyway you

453
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Speaker 5: asked me, I'm I am your wife, and I work

454
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 5: at meat Eater, do a variety of things and have

455
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Speaker 5: the amazing fortune of getting to work with you guys

456
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Speaker 5: on this podcast. So excited.

457
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Speaker 2: Do you just know we met through publishing? I didn't

458
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Speaker 2: know that I did. And then Dan go ahead, Uh,

459
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Speaker 2: what talk about? We talk about your line of work.

460
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Speaker 6: Oh, it's the same as rates. We do the same thing.

461
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 6: We already covered that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, same thing. Great.

462
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: So we're gonna we're gonna do a couple things that

463
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Speaker 2: we're gonna get into. We're gonna get into the God's

464
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Speaker 2: Country Podcast. No, you guys are not familiar. You're familiar

465
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Speaker 2: now with my saying that I invented a freshet of

466
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Speaker 2: eyes will always find more beans. I'll clarify where it

467
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Speaker 2: came from. It came from when you'd send people to

468
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Speaker 2: pick pole beans, as one does, they'll come and say,

469
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Speaker 2: well I got them all. I'm like, and then I'll

470
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Speaker 2: go out and there be more anybody, anybody.

471
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Speaker 5: This is a very specific saying to our children, though

472
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Speaker 5: I think it just applies.

473
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Speaker 6: I'm really curious as to how you're applying this to

474
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Speaker 6: your children though.

475
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Speaker 5: No, it's like so like literally sending them outside to

476
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Speaker 5: get pole beans.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are you? What kind of you guys?

478
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: Do bush beans or pole beans down here?

479
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Speaker 6: What are we talking about it?

480
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Speaker 2: Gardening?

481
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 6: No? I don't. I don't.

482
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Speaker 2: Okay, either way, I observed it like no matter who

483
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Speaker 2: you how many people you send out, they'll you send

484
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Speaker 2: them out. Like pick up pole beans is hard because

485
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Speaker 2: they camouflage inside the trestle, O L E. Pole. Well,

486
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: there's two. You have two varieties. So you have bush

487
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Speaker 2: beans which have snap beans and great, but they they

488
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Speaker 2: can be either or Okay, just just for clarity's sake. Uh,

489
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 2: bush beans are already generally they're determinate, meaning they're already

490
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Speaker 2: all at once, right, so for canning and stuff they're great.

491
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Speaker 2: Then you can have indeterminate pole varieties, which is produce

492
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Speaker 2: over a long period time. You will send as I've

493
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Speaker 2: had to explains a bunch of times, you'll send someone out.

494
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Speaker 2: You'll be like, hey, kids, go pick all the beans

495
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Speaker 2: for dinner, and they'll come back, but we got them all.

496
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Speaker 2: And then I'll go out and they didn't get them

497
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: all there's more. So didn't you invent the saying or

498
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Speaker 2: was this a past?

499
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Speaker 8: No?

500
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Speaker 2: I invented the saying A new old say, a new

501
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 2: old saying, which means it means like a like. You

502
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Speaker 2: can apply it to glassing, for instance, like no I

503
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: glass that hillside out, there's no deer there. And then

504
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: he's like the fresh at eyes, fresh set eyes. So

505
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: we've got a lot of variations on this.

506
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Speaker 6: I have a conflict with that statement working on.

507
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Speaker 2: Song titles, and a guy said that he tried it

508
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Speaker 2: on his wife the other night. She was looking in

509
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Speaker 2: the she was looking in the pantry for vanilla extract.

510
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 2: She couldn't find it, and he said, well, I'll come

511
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Speaker 2: in and take a look, and she said, what good

512
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Speaker 2: would that do? I'm already looking. He'd been wanting to

513
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: use the expression. His wife's name is Kate. He wanted

514
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Speaker 2: to use the expression, so he said it, and then

515
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Speaker 2: in rep why, she called him the one word that

516
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: no one has ever said on this podcast, see you

517
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: next Tuesday, which made me think, what kind of wife's

518
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: he got? What happened right there? What just happened doesn't matter.

519
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: See you next Tuesday is way more than one word.

520
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he got called for applying to saying, now,

521
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: we've been covering serious situations with TSA agents stealing your

522
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: pocket knives, and we had a guy. We haven't been

523
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: disclosing where any of these TSA agents are located because

524
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: we want to get in trouble. But there's a TSA

525
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: agent who tells people to go put it in the

526
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Speaker 2: bathroom drop ceiling, and a guy goes to later get

527
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Speaker 2: his knife, and he says that he finds multiple names,

528
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: three other knives in the drop ceiling. Another TSA agent

529
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: wrote in. He says, I worked for the TSA, and

530
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Speaker 2: there have been many times that someone was caught while

531
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Speaker 2: attempting to stash a knife in the ceiling tiles of

532
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Speaker 2: a bathroom. They're usually caught by another passenger, who reports

533
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Speaker 2: them to either TSA or the police at the airport.

534
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Speaker 2: My suggestion this is coming from a TSA agent, which

535
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Speaker 2: is what I've personally done. Put your knife inside of

536
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: a planter, you're less It's less suspicious to see someone

537
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: fiddling with a planter than someone in the bathroom fiddling

538
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: with the drop tiles.

539
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

540
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Speaker 2: A guy wrote in about hunting strategies, you guys might

541
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Speaker 2: be interested in this. He's talking about trying to kill

542
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Speaker 2: town deer. Yeah, okay, he's observing when you're hunting town deer,

543
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Speaker 2: and I've seen this. You're hunting town deer that are

544
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: town Turkey's town deer. They're totally used to people. But

545
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 2: the minute you go to hunt them, they know you're

546
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Speaker 2: hunting them. He's saying, the reason that's happening is because

547
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Speaker 2: you're acting different. You're dressing different, acting different. When he's

548
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: hunting town deer, he acts like he's going to do

549
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: a normal town thing, like go to the grocery, you

550
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Speaker 2: put on normal clothes and don't go toward the deer.

551
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Speaker 2: You tour to shed, Yeah, you don't go. You go

552
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: like you're going tour to car crank a four wheeler

553
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: out there. And he talks on his phone.

554
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 5: And then he turns around and WAPs him.

555
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 2: And he said it's so easy that he's gotten sick

556
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Speaker 2: of it.

557
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Speaker 4: So he's been successful with this.

558
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Speaker 5: You sound angry about that.

559
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 6: I'm a little angry about this.

560
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Speaker 2: Well, he's like, Hey, I'll act if I'm trying to

561
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Speaker 2: get a town deer. I'll act like I'm doing messive

562
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: with my garbage. Because the minute you like get all

563
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: your gear on and act weird and try sneaking up

564
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 2: on it, it's like, what the the deer's like, hell's

565
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: going out with this guy and he takes off.

566
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Speaker 4: He's hunting me.

567
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like he doesn't like it. Yeah, so he said,

568
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: just like you have it, be chill, do normal stuff.

569
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: He like said, it works so good, this works so well.

570
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Speaker 2: It ruined the whole experience.

571
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Speaker 6: Oh beautiful.

572
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Speaker 2: He's got a friend.

573
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Speaker 4: This guy, go find some public land.

574
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Speaker 2: He's got a friend. He says that hunt likes to

575
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Speaker 2: hunt deer. He's mechanic and he hunts deer by the garage.

576
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: He hunts in his mechanic clothes by the garage. And

577
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: he said that he thinks it's the perfect all that

578
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: grease is a good cover center.

579
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Speaker 6: I just absolutely demolishes, like all the standards and bars

580
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 6: that we were brought up on as far as like

581
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 6: respecting everything and do it.

582
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

583
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Speaker 6: It's just like, hey, man, just set up by the

584
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 6: garage and your work suit, shoot some ship.

585
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 5: So you don't think you should do it.

586
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 6: I'm not saying I don't think you should do it.

587
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 6: I would absolutely do it. I just think it. It

588
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 6: just doesn't feel as good to make.

589
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Speaker 2: Some weird you know what it is. It's it's it's well,

590
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: go on, I'm good.

591
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Speaker 6: I'm good.

592
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: I used to so when I used to get on

593
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Speaker 2: a plane and there was people in first class, I

594
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: wanted to cut all their throats.

595
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 6: I knew they were.

596
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: On board, rich bastards. Came by it dishonesty, you know

597
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Speaker 2: what I mean. Later you get then later you get

598
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: where you start getting later, I know, but now now

599
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: you know, Now I get out there, and I'm like, man,

600
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of hard working people, you know, a lot

601
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: of sacrifices, a lot of sacrifices they made to be

602
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: in this situation up here. You guys order Champagne to

603
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: talk about down on people, the hunted town stuff. But

604
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: now I have a yard that has a lot of

605
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: town stuff in it, and I'm always plotting and devising

606
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: how I would go about it. And the one neighbor

607
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: I have right next to me is out in a

608
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: different zone, a different municipality, administrative zone, and I'm envious.

609
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 2: Even though you know, one of the commandments is don't

610
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: covert that neighbor's property. I coveted his property because he

611
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: would be at will to hunt the town stuff. So

612
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying I wouldn't look down on it. Now, I'm

613
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: an aspirational town hunter, meaning it's just your situation varies.

614
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, so you wouldn't you look the country

615
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 8: correct back porch, a giant deer walks out across your backfield.

616
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 6: Depends on how the years go, okay and what season.

617
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 8: End of season, you haven't killed a buck yet, not

618
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 8: see ya, you would shoot it.

619
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: We recently looked at a property that's basically touching our property,

620
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: and my only motivation looking at that property is that

621
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Speaker 2: you were to have excellent town hunting.

622
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: When you say townhunting, like, are you guys like in talking.

623
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: About hunting habituated animals. Yeah, that was not.

624
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: My motivation for looking at.

625
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 2: That the truth, I'll still do normal stuff, but I

626
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: was like, my like, this would give you a chance

627
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: at town bears.

628
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 6: I'm saying there's a different for me personally now, what

629
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, ignorance is bliss too, right. If you

630
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 6: didn't have the foundation I guess that we were brought

631
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 6: up on, it probably wouldn't matter to me. I'm old

632
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 6: now and there there is more to it for me

633
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 6: than the animal. And I'm not trying to put myself

634
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 6: on some purist pedestal here. I'm just saying it. It

635
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 6: just I don't know that it would that it would

636
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 6: bring the same satisfaction as because.

637
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 5: You didn't feel like it.

638
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 8: So there's a guy here in town. No, no, no,

639
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 8: you and you guys probably know the story. But he

640
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 8: was dating this girl who lived within city limits.

641
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: Oh, you're doing it, you're doing she is doing it.

642
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say names. I'm not going to

643
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: say names.

644
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 8: The girl lives in East Nashville, very well known for

645
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 8: having like town deer over there.

646
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, she's at a location.

647
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: Big deer, and we're getting close.

648
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 8: We're going to judge you if you shoot him, because

649
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 8: you shouldn't shoot town deer.

650
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: Anyway.

651
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 8: This guy is dating this girl. He and he had

652
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 8: been watching this deer come up on her property. They

653
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 8: ended up breaking up, and I don't really know what

654
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 8: I think. They were kind of like talking still, and

655
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 8: as a talking she sent him a picture of this

656
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 8: giant buck in her backyard. Conveniently, they got back together

657
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 8: and he shot it and then posted a picture on

658
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 8: the internet.

659
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: In his camera, like he shot it out and then

660
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: he broke up with her the next day.

661
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 9: Mom, like with that, Wow, but it's kind of funny

662
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 9: you say that, Like he shot it off the back

663
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 9: porch and his normal clothes, went inside, put his camera on,

664
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 9: and then went outside and took the picture.

665
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 5: With the deer.

666
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: Well that that happened.

667
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: One degree removed.

668
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 2: But I like to be a very well rounded outdoorsman, Okay,

669
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: Like I hunt a trap, I fish, I hunted some

670
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: of the most I hunted some of the most remote

671
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: places you can get to. And as the well roundedness,

672
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: I would also like to build a hunt in some

673
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: of the least remote places you get to, just to

674
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: have that full breadth of experience. And I don't think,

675
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to damage the resource. Which

676
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: leads me to another thing that someone wrote in about

677
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: where a guy wrote in looking for some moral help.

678
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: He has a twenty acre plot twenty acre track a

679
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: land in western Virginia. Used to be a big cattle operation,

680
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: but it got all as things do, got all busted

681
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: up in the little pieces, one of which he purchases

682
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: load of a deer in turkeys. Here's the thing he's

683
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: in a situation where in terms of the state regulations,

684
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: he's totally fine to hunt, but there's this dumb property

685
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: owners association prohibition on hunting, and he's looking for some

686
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: moral guidance and what you should do. I just I

687
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: I never knew. I didn't really understand what those things were.

688
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: I bought a house that's in one of those things,

689
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: and I would never make that mistake again. I would

690
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: not pay any attention to that.

691
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 7: No, I'm either and I live in one as well,

692
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 7: like like we live outside of the city, but it is.

693
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 7: It is in a community, and there is an HOA

694
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 7: system in place, and they will send you letters if

695
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 7: your grass is not cut at a certain height, or

696
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 7: if you've got limbs in the backyard, which I just

697
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 7: kept on moving them, yeah, and just made them move

698
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 7: them in a different spot. But yeah, I'm the same

699
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 7: way man, I think, and I always say this too,

700
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 7: like until that association is paying the taxes on my property,

701
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 7: I'll do what I want to do on my property.

702
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: I have all phenomenal neighbors, same, yeah, but I know

703
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't I would rather all my neighbors were horders not.

704
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to trade my neighbors in

705
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: I would like to have my wonderful neighbors that I have,

706
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: but that but that they were hoarders and junk collectors, Okay,

707
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: meaning when you need something like I have in my

708
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: place in Alaska, I had a horder junk collector neighbor.

709
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: Anytime you needed anything, just.

710
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: Walk over there.

711
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: You go over there and need to have it.

712
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to keep up with it, so

713
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: you need like and didn't even know.

714
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: He has some metal yay long? Right whatever you know

715
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: he's going to have that huncle metal yay long. It's

716
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: just there's the They have all kinds of rabbits, like

717
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: junk piles. Yeah, it just be. And then my place

718
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: looks awesome.

719
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: Sure not happening in an Hoa.

720
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: Looks way better than everybody else's.

721
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 5: We've never gotten any like criticism from the Hoa, except

722
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 5: not like grass anything we've done to the house. Just

723
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 5: our camper trailer. Yeah, staying outside for too long?

724
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: How'd that make you feel? And when you when you

725
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: opened that letter and read that.

726
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: Didn't come in a letter for him?

727
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 5: Right? Was it right after your hunt with Luke?

728
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: No, it was during the big flood that we.

729
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: Had just gotten a notice about our camper trailer and

730
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 5: our HOA was upset about it. And I pulled in

731
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: from work one day and there was probably twenty cars,

732
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 5: our trailer and a tour bus generators run or like today,

733
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, they were upset before.

734
00:33:52,120 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: Ye a Minnesota trapper. This was reported in I believe

735
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: this is a report in Minnesota public radio. A Minnesota

736
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: trapper had a Bobcat set out. This, Oh, this is

737
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: not this is This story makes trappers look pretty good.

738
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: A Minnesota trapper has a Bobcat set out, and he's

739
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: in the area where you can't trap pine Martins, and

740
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: he catches a Pine Martin in his Bobcat set and

741
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: he thinks it's deceased. Calls a warden because that's what

742
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: he needs. He needs a self report. This guy's an

743
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: exemplary figure because a lot of guys would have been

744
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: like that didn't happen, right, and just go about your business.

745
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: But he calls a warden to say, I had an

746
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: incidental catch. I think I killed this Pine Martin. The

747
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: warden says on the call, the trapper then says, op,

748
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: it's eyes just moved and hangs up on the warden.

749
00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: He then manages to give CPR. The warden backed him

750
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: up on this, gives him CPR, resuscitates the martin, uh warm,

751
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: puts it in his vehicle. What moves the martin into

752
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: his vehicle to warm it up? No, he put his

753
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: He put his mouth over its nostrils and put air

754
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: into it.

755
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: I'm with it.

756
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: Rushes to the scene Belle Tramy County. The guy gets

757
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: it all warmed up in his all trained vehicle. They

758
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: don't say what kind. The warden rushes to the scene.

759
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: They get it revived to the point that it becomes

760
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: very angry.

761
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 7: Confining, confined within the ATV, and they released it.

762
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: It's impressive that he he pulled out the CPR, and

763
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 5: you how to do it.

764
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: Not only that, the warden reviewed video taken by the

765
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: trapper's wife that confirmed the sequence of events. The warden

766
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: was so moved he included it in his weekly report

767
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: of Notable activity activities. The trapper, I wish Kren was here,

768
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: supposedly does not want to be interviewed.

769
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 5: If anybody could could make that happen, it would be crinal.

770
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

771
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 8: I always think I'm readneck and then I hear stories

772
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 8: like that, and I'm like, you know, what.

773
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: What a story.

774
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 6: Why don't your parents have coons or something?

775
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my dad and stepmom raised raccoons in our house.

776
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 7: There's literally pictures of her dad holding a raccoon feeding

777
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 7: him a twinkie.

778
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, like on the cow and they would like have

779
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 8: to burp the raccoons and then like a baby.

780
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a whole thing.

781
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: Just kept them when I was little. My kids are

782
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: dying for one to spring the raccoon.

783
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 8: They fell out of a tree and they were Huey,

784
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 8: Dewey and Louie I think, and they would come they

785
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 8: would open the door not and come in and eat cheetohs.

786
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: That's pretty red neck.

787
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I guess I am the mouth to.

788
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 4: What a story of the Pine Martin?

789
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about that. I was going to

790
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: move on to another news story. Go on.

791
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 6: Sorry, Is that is that like, because obviously we don't

792
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 6: have pine Martins down here? Is that like a kind

793
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 6: of a revered animal there is this just like like

794
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 6: would it be.

795
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: Like No, it's more it's more heroic than reviving a possum.

796
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: So we trap Martins where we're at and it's an

797
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: American Martin people call them Pine Martin. Have you ever

798
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: heard of sable like a sable coat or a sable brush.

799
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: So Martins are sold as sable and it's a very

800
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: high end, luxuriant fur. And they used to make a

801
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: brush with the with the hair of a Martin. And now,

802
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: like I was saying, if you were an oligarch's wife

803
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: pre Ukraine invasion, if you were an oligarch's wife, what

804
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: you wanted was a sable coat lined with bobcat which

805
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: really brings this guy's worlds together.

806
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 6: It was like a season for Pine Martin and it

807
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 6: wasn't in season.

808
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: The season for Pine Martin runs, well, I don't know

809
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: in his area. He might be in a unit. So

810
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: there are Minnesota units you can trap Martin. He might

811
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: have been out of unit. But our season runs from

812
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: uh December one to February fifteenth for Martin trapping. And

813
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: they're regulated as a fur bear. They're a mustal lid,

814
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: they're a weasel, remember the weasel family. They're regulated as

815
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: a fur bear. And you'll have all kinds of quotas

816
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: in place and stuff like that. But right now the

817
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: unit I'm in is open quota. December one to February fifteenth.

818
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: So is that why there were there were worth like

819
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: forty fifty bucks? So is that why he had to

820
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: report it because it was out of season?

821
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 5: Was that what you were going for when we had

822
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 5: the snowmobile?

823
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Martin trapping when we had our snowbill crash.

824
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 5: Okay, so I have the best photo ever. I'm going

825
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 5: to find it for you.

826
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: We had a miss I took her trapping.

827
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 4: We had a misma.

828
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 5: It was not a miscommunication.

829
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: Here's the I said.

830
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: It was like, I have I have a great date day,

831
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 5: date day, date.

832
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: Day got her with the d so I had her drive.

833
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't want to be driving on some

834
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: steep ass.

835
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: Trail and I was like, the one thing I'm worried

836
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 5: about is driving off the side of a mountain and

837
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 5: flipping over ballot.

838
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: So I say you should drive the snow mill and

839
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: learn how to drive on the flats. Tough to drive.

840
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: Drove it and then wasn't crazy about driving it. And

841
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: then I jump off to check some sets.

842
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: Just they just happened to be where.

843
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: I leave it. I leave it.

844
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 5: I can I'm supposed to do a date day, but

845
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 5: I have to go to check my.

846
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: Some sets, and I go down the mountain. She my

847
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: snowmobil has footwarmers. You jam your feet up into these

848
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: feet warmers. She moves up to try to warm her

849
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: feet on it. So when I come back up the mountain,

850
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: she's perched up there in the driver state. Yeah, in

851
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: the driver's Yeah, I thought she was up there because

852
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: she's itching to drive again. But she was up there

853
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: trying to warm her feet. But size just whatever. I

854
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: jump on the back and she's like, well, I guess

855
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: I'm driving again. And I had already broken trail through

856
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: this area. So then we are on the steep stuff

857
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to drive on, and her skis get

858
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: a little out of the ruts. This is the day

859
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Ken Block died on a snowbill always be find the day,

860
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: same day. So she gets the ruts out of the

861
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: skis out of the track. I reach forward to grab

862
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: the bar and pull it back on, but inadvertently punch

863
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: the accelerator.

864
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 6: That's what's.

865
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: A whiskey throttle. It off Off the mountain we go,

866
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: and I think, man, this is gonna hurt when this

867
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: thing starts rolling over us bunch of times, so I

868
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: kind of bear hugger and get like tucked in expecting

869
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: the machine was but the powder was so deep it

870
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: just burrowed in and I was like, man, this is bad.

871
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: But we had there's two trees in the vicinity. I

872
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: had one tree to get it back. I got a

873
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: rope polar on one tree and got it upright, got

874
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: a rope pullar on another tree and got it back

875
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: on the road. And we were lucky in underway Jordan, Uh,

876
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: that's the pinet.

877
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 6: I don't know if I can put my mouth on that.

878
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: That's a pine Martin.

879
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not.

880
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: Putting my mouth And God didn't mouth the mouth on that.

881
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 7: That thing would eat your tongue out.

882
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: So recorded in the Okay, here's here's here's the here's

883
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: here's here's a distressing story kind of. So a group

884
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: by now in Canada how to work like in Canada

885
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: big Game the British Columbia big game guides will have

886
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 2: I've hunted a BC on one of these. A big

887
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: game outfitter in Canada will have like what they call

888
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: on Crown Land, they'll own the concession. Okay, so big

889
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: game outfitter the public can hunt a certain area, but

890
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: only one an outfitter can guide an area and that's

891
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: what you own. There's an animal rights group in the

892
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: Great Bare Rainforest of BC which is buying up the concessions,

893
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: doing everything normal, and it's a bid process. So there

894
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: it's like willing seller willing buyer. They're doing the bid process,

895
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: doing all the necessary paperwork.

896
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 6: But that would essentially be like here where they do

897
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 6: duck draws. They draw for blind right, what they're called

898
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 6: pits and stuff, and so what they do here is

899
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: is essentially it would be them entering these duck sure things,

900
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 6: getting the rights to it, and then just not hunting

901
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 6: it essentially.

902
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 7: But with a duck thing you have people out. There's

903
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 7: a possibility that you can't. This is money.

904
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 6: This is no this this money too. People buy pits

905
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 6: from people who draw them all the time. Oh oh okay,

906
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 6: maybe illegally, but they definitely do it.

907
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 4: Okay, I see what you're saying.

908
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: This is similar to a move that's been happening in

909
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: other areas where uh So, a couple of years ago

910
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: when the US Fish and Wildlife Service moved to delist

911
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: grizzly bears and the grizzly bears in the Greater Yellstone ecosystem.

912
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: We're going to go under state management some of the states.

913
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: Montana sat it out, Wyoming said that we're going to

914
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: issue twenty tags for hunting. Idaho was going to do

915
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: a sort of they were gonna do one sort of

916
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: a symbolic one tag, and there was a big movement

917
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: for if this went through, it was gonna be that

918
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: the whole they were trying to get people just to

919
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: swamp the application system and hopes that that anti hunters

920
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: would draw the tags and just sit on them. Right.

921
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: So this is like a play that you'll see that

922
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: is happening more and more and more and more. Let

923
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: me ask you about this.

924
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 6: Do you feel how how do you feel like if

925
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 6: there's a versus the revenue of hunters versus the revenue

926
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 6: of non hunting, where does that How does that sit?

927
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: You know? I think where you see it play out

928
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: in a really effective ways you where you have a

929
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: legitimate juxtaposition would be as explained to me, it would

930
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: be if you look in areas in Africa where you

931
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: have countries that have moved away from right, you have

932
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: countries that move to a park system, in countries that

933
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: run a hunting concession system what it winds up doing.

934
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: With countries that run like that have like a park system,

935
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: you have the same way you'd have it in for instance,

936
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: in Montana with Yellowstone National Park or Glacial National Park.

937
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: Then the rest of the area. You have a high

938
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: volume of spending in a very concentrated area and in

939
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of neglected area. So in as it's been

940
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: explained to me would be in the case of in Africa,

941
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: you have these vast, vast, vast areas that are hunting

942
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: concession and it brings in small amounts of people that

943
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: spend extraordinary amounts of money and allows for habitat preservation

944
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: to occur on in remote areas on big landscapes. And

945
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: then you have park systems where large amounts of people

946
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: spend small amounts of money and they're very concentrated. Its

947
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: effectiveness almost lies on its effectiveness almost relies on the concentration, right,

948
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: Meaning a dude that goes to Wyoming to hunt elk

949
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: and you know the dude goes in Whoming elk is

950
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: going to go spend over ten grand. Yeah, all in

951
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: you go visit the park, you know, spending that you know,

952
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: spending that amount of money. Yeah, right, but that that

953
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: two million acres of Yelsow National Park, for instance, that

954
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: two million acres generates an enormous amount of money per acre,

955
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't be applicable across these sort of like

956
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: less showcase scenarios.

957
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 6: Do you think that's moving our our country to a

958
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 6: got to own to be able to hunt place.

959
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: Man everywhere outside of the big pub land areas. Yeah,

960
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean I'm witnessing that in my I mean, you know,

961
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm turning fifty pretty soon here, so it's like when

962
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: I say, in my own lifetime, keep in mind that's

963
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: like a half century. Yeah, but I've witnessed that dramatically

964
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: in my own lifetime. Pay to play, right, the days

965
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: of we used to I used to maintain when I

966
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: was growing up in Michigan for trapping, I maintained twenty

967
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: five permissions. I had twenty five permissions to hunt trap.

968
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely happening here in the South. I mean,

969
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 6: you have to and I don't know, I don't know

970
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 6: if it's a I don't know if it's people just

971
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 6: don't want people on their land at this point. But

972
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 6: like to me, it was the most it was the

973
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 6: it was the most important thing I could spend money

974
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 6: on was land in order to lock up a place

975
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 6: for my kids reads kids are you know what I mean?

976
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 6: Like I don't care about trucks or any of that

977
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 6: other stuff.

978
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: It was like you you were just talking about buying

979
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: trucks this morning, when you're supposed.

980
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 6: To talk about readout.

981
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: No, we were talking about you bound a truck.

982
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: Well just this morning. Well he's rich now he already

983
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: got care about trucks.

984
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I shouldn't say I don't care about trucks.

985
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 6: I care about land more than I care about trucks,

986
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 6: and I care about acquiring land more than I care

987
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 6: about trucks. And that that's what I think. It's part

988
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 6: of the problem as well, is because once I get it,

989
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 6: anybody hunting that, they're not my family's gonna hunt that.

990
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 6: So the more that that happens, the more locking up

991
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 6: that that happens, the less opportunity there is for people

992
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 6: that that's not important to.

993
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 7: Them, especially now that that land is is through the

994
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 7: roof and price.

995
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: Man, that's what that's what I mean. So you've decided

996
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: no one's hunting your place.

997
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 6: No's not my place. You can come sit with me.

998
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 6: He dogg, but you're not shooting anything. You need a

999
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 6: dough or something. But look, here's the other thing. Okay,

1000
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 6: let's take the six point for example, the one I

1001
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 6: sent you the picture of. I've been watching that deer

1002
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 6: grow for four years. Okay, So I come in, I

1003
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 6: work and don't buy trucks for years in order to

1004
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 6: be able to purchase this ground. Right, it comes for

1005
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 6: sale bound, we hop on it. I go start hunting it.

1006
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 6: Dream spot backs up to my little farms, and now

1007
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 6: we've got this acreage. I see this six tall six

1008
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 6: point right, he's running around out there. I'm like, man,

1009
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 6: that thing's pretty be awesome. If he could make it,

1010
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 6: he makes it, makes it another year, makes it another year,

1011
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 6: and eventually turns into this desired six and a half

1012
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 6: year old white tail. Right. So, the thought of me

1013
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 6: bringing anybody outside of Jesus Christ to shoot this deer,

1014
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 6: it's outlandish.

1015
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: Dude.

1016
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 6: I've been passing this thing. He's been dodging Z seventy

1017
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 6: one's for the past six years on those roads. You

1018
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Not to mention other whack chop

1019
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 6: mechanics sitting out behind their house trying to grease and everything.

1020
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: So like to me, that deer is.

1021
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 7: More periodicity an implant driving a flashlight and two seventy.

1022
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and I'm with the mindset

1023
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 6: of it. I'm just saying, it's a tough spot, right,

1024
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 6: It's a tough spot because people want their on ground

1025
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 6: and they want to do what they want to do

1026
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 6: on their own ground.

1027
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: Well, let me hit you with this. Okay, this is true,

1028
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: but like, Okay, my friend Doug Darren, he manages his

1029
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: family's farm, right, that dude, he takes the number one

1030
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: number he's interested in. He's interested in two numbers.

1031
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 8: One.

1032
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: He likes to brag about how many people hunted his place.

1033
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 6: How old is this guy? We older me, so he's

1034
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 6: had some time on there.

1035
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: Maybe you know what he's I'm older than he was.

1036
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 2: He recently pointed out to me. I'm now older than

1037
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: he was when he and I became friends. That doesn't

1038
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: mean a whole hell of a lot to you. But

1039
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 2: either way, Oh, I don't know what the hell. He

1040
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: is a decade older than I am. Yeah, maybe a

1041
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: little more than that. Anyway, he'll brag to me forty

1042
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: four people hunting my farm. This year in a very

1043
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: control or andize fashion. And if you go talk to

1044
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: Doug too, the number of dead deer is usually at

1045
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: or higher than the number of people that hunted his place.

1046
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 4: How big is this place?

1047
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: Several hundred several hundred acres. He takes pride in getting

1048
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: people on his place. I got another I got well,

1049
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 2: I got another bud. Does he set limits on my buddy,

1050
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: my buddy, Matt Cook. There's years that dude don't hunt

1051
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: his place. He's so busy having everybody else on his place,

1052
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 2: wounded veterans, kids, non.

1053
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 7: He's the last time I went a veterans hunted your spot.

1054
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 5: If we had gotten the land behind us? Oh, come on,

1055
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 5: okay him, would you invite a bunch of people to

1056
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: come over and my.

1057
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: Kids buddies that I got another guy, I got another

1058
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: guy know uh, another guy know Mark That dude he's

1059
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: got more kids run around hunting play his place. So

1060
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: you don't need to be mean. But it also could

1061
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: be that you could mature into this in old age.

1062
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 6: Maybe that's what Doug Duram did.

1063
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, he did just he used to be. He's and

1064
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 2: he'll tell you, well, I'm not saying no one can

1065
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: ever hunt my place? Well, Jesus you said he could.

1066
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 6: Now at this moment, and I mean, yeah, we've shot

1067
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 6: some turkeys off there. I'm just saying, it's the it's

1068
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 6: the dilemma, right, the dilemma.

1069
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: I hear you, loud and clear.

1070
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 6: Locking up ground for you and yours to do what

1071
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 6: they want to do.

1072
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: On Can I hit you with a scenario, then we're

1073
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: gonna move on by let's go. And I was guilty,

1074
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: You already look like an asshole. Well no, I'll hit

1075
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: you with scenarios. So I own a weird little spot. Okay,

1076
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: I own a weird little spot where.

1077
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 6: Now let me just say this. If you've got a

1078
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 6: record deal, you're welcome to hunt my spot. I'll swap

1079
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 6: cuts for.

1080
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: A for a for a dough up tempo positive positive little.

1081
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 6: Slide in there. Hey man, shoot that forecorn he he

1082
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 6: don't make it down to me.

1083
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: I have a little spot that opens up some great opportunity.

1084
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: Like in and of itself, the spot's nothing, but it

1085
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: just gives you. It gives you like pretty good access

1086
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: to an area. And buddy of mine owns a little

1087
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 2: spot next to the little spot that's.

1088
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,959
Speaker 6: Somebody of mom own the spot next, no spot, No okay.

1089
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: So he gets a letter from some kids saying, couldn't help,

1090
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: but notice you got a nice little spot. Could we

1091
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: use your little spot to get to.

1092
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 6: The other spot?

1093
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: Other spot? And I said, man, I'd act like I

1094
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: never saw that letter. And I mud up being real

1095
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: glad I didn't get the letter because that would have

1096
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: put me in a morally compromised position.

1097
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 6: So did the little Montana heart of yours have done?

1098
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: I would have been in a buying. I would have

1099
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: been in the buying. But thankfully I was like, just

1100
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: I just was. I thanked the universe that that didn't

1101
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: come to me, because I wouldn't want to have to

1102
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: deal with the situation like that.

1103
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 5: What did he do? Did he say? No, you and

1104
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 5: your kid?

1105
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: I advised him to act like he never saw that one?

1106
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 6: Is that what he did? Is that what he did?

1107
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: Or he was a little distraught about that? He was

1108
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: a little he was a little dismayed about the address

1109
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: that they found. M M, what, Yeah, they've done a

1110
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: lot of work. How he felt a little spied on?

1111
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 5: Well, we had someone.

1112
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just leave you at that.

1113
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 3: Maybe something for that.

1114
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 8: My stepdad has land and had someone approach him about

1115
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 8: getting to hunt it, and so my stepdad actually made

1116
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 8: a list of jobs he didn't want to do on

1117
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 8: the property to help clean it up, and told the kid,

1118
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 8: if you trim the fences, paint the fences, do all

1119
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 8: this stuff, you can have rights to hunts, to.

1120
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 4: Which the kid has not done.

1121
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 6: Yes, you know, and then we locked everybody out of it.

1122
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: I'd invite your dad to visit with the guy I

1123
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: was talking about, Doug Duran, who lets everybody hunt his

1124
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: place because not only that, he has started an organization

1125
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: called Sharing the Land, which is just for that purpose.

1126
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: Doug's philosophy is is this, like, first off, his philosophy

1127
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: on land ownership is a it's a it's not ours,

1128
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: it's our turn. Interesting, it's not ours, it's our turn.

1129
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 6: Jesus is really making me.

1130
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: Look, let me tell you he's gonna get worse. So

1131
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: Doug's like, every time, you know, everybody knows what the

1132
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: hunter gets out of the land, right, everybody knows that

1133
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: the landowner gets out of the land. But Doug's like,

1134
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: what does the land get out of it? Out of

1135
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: this exchange? So Doug has started this thing called Sherry

1136
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: the Land, which is he brings in farmers who have

1137
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: chore lists right, and he brings in groups of hunters

1138
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: who say it like I'm ready to work for access.

1139
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 2: But the work that they're doing goes toward habitat improvement.

1140
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: So if a farmers like he wants shelter belts and windrows,

1141
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: he wants to pull up old fencing, he wants to

1142
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: do any number of things, they try to gear it

1143
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: toward land improvement while improvement actually and then he puts

1144
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: the he pairs the hunters with the landowners. There's no

1145
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: and it winds up meaning there's no exchange of cash,

1146
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: so you don't wind up in a weird regulatory space.

1147
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: But it's like, oh, I've always wanted to, you know,

1148
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: improve my riparian area, or try to re establish willows

1149
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: along the creek or the cattle graze it down, or

1150
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: try to do trout work on my stream, but shit,

1151
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have time to do that. Well, you

1152
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: get these holsers that want to hunt, and they'll come

1153
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: out and pour the coals to it and then they

1154
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: get to do their hunt.

1155
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 8: I'm with that, and I think it's good, especially if

1156
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 8: the landowner doesn't hunt like they're not going to be

1157
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 8: like if you didn't hunt, yeah, you would let people

1158
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 8: probably hunt your land.

1159
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, so you.

1160
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 5: Got like, I think in Dan's defense.

1161
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a team.

1162
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 5: The last you brought up the fact that it's a dilemma,

1163
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 5: Like to act like it's not a dilemma is not truthful,

1164
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 5: Like you're being honest about it, and you admitted that

1165
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 5: you also would were conflicted when you know tangentially.

1166
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 6: We're on the same team. He's just not as vocal

1167
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 6: about he's just not owning it.

1168
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm just putting it in a tough spot.

1169
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 6: I know.

1170
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: But we're on the same team.

1171
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lie. If I owned land, I wouldn't

1172
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 8: let people hunt it. I'm just going to say.

1173
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: It your husband, I mean, yeah, my brother in.

1174
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: Law without me.

1175
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 6: No.

1176
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 8: But I mean like if I I mean, I grew

1177
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 8: up on a chicken farm in Kentucky and I don't

1178
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 8: I wouldn't let people hunt that. I wouldn't let other

1179
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 8: people hunt it. I would let my family enjoy it.

1180
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 8: I would be selfish about it.

1181
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

1182
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 4: I'm exploiting myself this tough spot.

1183
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying I'm not taking a wounded veteran

1184
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 6: back off.

1185
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 2: I'm just saying how wounded which war?

1186
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 6: No, Look, I mean here's a prime I have a

1187
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 6: prime example. They probably never listen to this anyway. There's

1188
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 6: a there's a guy that has asked like, hey man,

1189
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 6: do you mind? And I was like, yeah, I.

1190
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: Do mine.

1191
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 6: Nicely. I worked extremely hard to have a place for

1192
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 6: my family to do this, and we're going to be

1193
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 6: doing it on that day. So next year rolls around,

1194
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 6: hey man, son's in for Christmas? You mind if we

1195
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 6: I was like, ah, wish we could make that work,

1196
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 6: but my brother and I are actually going to be

1197
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 6: back there on them. Next year rolls around, hey man,

1198
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 6: my nine year old granddaughter who has never killed a turkey,

1199
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 6: she's a combat veteran, was a combat veteran, and has

1200
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 6: a purple heart. Is there any chance? And I was like, dude,

1201
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have my nephews. All true, all true. Me

1202
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 6: and Reed were hunting at one year, Me and my

1203
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 6: dad were hunting the year before, and I was taking

1204
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 6: my nephews the next year. All true things. I'm not

1205
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 6: just lying about it, but I'm trying to establish the

1206
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 6: fact that a bro finally somewhere, buddy, they're out there.

1207
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 6: Because I feel like that's what we had to do.

1208
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 6: That's what we had to do to get ground. We

1209
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 6: had to We hunted core ground and public land, and

1210
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 6: I mean I shot a turkey on the other side

1211
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 6: of the lake over there then, and I mean we

1212
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 6: we worked to have access to places to hunt understood,

1213
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 6: and there is ground fifteen minutes down the road that

1214
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 6: we have killed deer on. Now were they six year olds? No,

1215
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 6: but but we got to hunt there. I feel like

1216
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 6: you should be able. Yoh, this sucks to say. I

1217
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 6: just keep feeling like a jerk every night time.

1218
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: No, you don't need to feel like a jerk. It's

1219
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: a real it's the thing. Let me bring it positive

1220
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: that we can move on from the conversation.

1221
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah, we've been on.

1222
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: No. No, I just think that hats off to the people

1223
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: that have that ability to let people go on. I've

1224
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: told you joking. I'm totally joking.

1225
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 5: If if we ever find ourselves in places where we

1226
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 5: can plan to hunt, I would be very interested to

1227
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 5: see if you just open it up to all hunters everywhere.

1228
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1229
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: No, I'll be like hunt what when? Okay, do you

1230
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: do that? With your spots that you hunt.

1231
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 6: Now, are you like, after you've filmed me a little show,

1232
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 6: do you go, hey, man, by the way, here's the pinpoint.

1233
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 6: Go kill everything out there.

1234
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not to anybody.

1235
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 6: Give me a coordinate.

1236
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: Well, I, well, here's the deal. There's sort of a

1237
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: you know, I have a collection of individuals. I have

1238
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: a circle of individuals that there's that we there's like

1239
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: an unwritten deal where I throw them little tidbits and

1240
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: they throw me little tidbits, a.

1241
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 5: Little tip for test.

1242
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: It's test, it's highly reci it's highly reciprocal. And sometimes

1243
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: you know in The Godfather, when the guy comes and

1244
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 2: says the Marlon and he's like he wants something done

1245
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: about someone that violated his daughter and the criminal system

1246
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: let her go, Brando says to him, Someday, I don't

1247
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: know when, but someday I'm gonna have a favor for you.

1248
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: Maybe never, but someday I might have a favor for you,

1249
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: and I'll take care of this.

1250
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 5: That's how you feel about.

1251
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: So the people that I share with, someday maybe I

1252
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: share with I have an expectation that sometime down the road,

1253
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: I might say, hey, I'm in a little bit of

1254
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: a bind trying to take a buddy mine to get

1255
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: some whatever ducks this weekend. You got any tips, and

1256
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: I would expect, and if they clam up on me,

1257
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: then I would expect, like down the road. I'm not

1258
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: throwing tidbits. I get that, Like you know what I'm saying,

1259
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: I'll do that with fish. But I mean, I don't

1260
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: know about dear fish.

1261
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 5: Anything you were explaining to me the other day, because

1262
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 5: I was a little bit surprised by it that if

1263
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 5: you take someone somewhere where and then they go without you,

1264
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 5: that that's really just.

1265
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: I just said, it's just it's good policy to acknowledge.

1266
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 6: Agreed, Yeah, it's.

1267
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: A good policy to It'd be like if I take

1268
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: someone to a spot, it's good policy for them to say, hey.

1269
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 6: What, uh is it cool?

1270
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: If yeah, like I want to go up there and

1271
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: hit that spot. I don't want to be up in

1272
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: each other's business. I know you showed me the spot,

1273
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: like what are you thinking? To which I might t

1274
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: which I would then be very upfront. I'd be like,

1275
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 2: you know what I was gonna I was gonna go

1276
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: up there with my boy. He already tagged out, I'm

1277
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: not going to hit it this year. If you're gonna

1278
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: hit this year, yeah, and then the one deal is

1279
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 2: just let me know what you see, right, And I'll

1280
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: say that to people. I'll be like, dude, go you

1281
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: should check this spot, check this spot, let me know

1282
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: what you run into.

1283
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 6: Now. Look, if we're talking public ground, that's all what

1284
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 6: I'm talking. It's a different deal. It's all because ultimately

1285
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 6: you can't hunt it all. Right, that's a different deal.

1286
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 6: And I'm with you. I would I would do exactly

1287
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 6: where you're saying. Hey, man, now I'm not telling everybody,

1288
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 6: and maybe if I bring you to the spot, you

1289
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 6: don't tell nobody else you if you're going up there

1290
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 6: with your kid, like, let me know what you see.

1291
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: I've had people say to me, I don't go to

1292
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: spots with people because I don't want to have to

1293
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: then later on be like worried about that stuff. I'd

1294
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: rather just find it all on my own and know

1295
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: that I found it on my own and never have

1296
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: to deal with any kind of weirdness.

1297
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 5: Worse, I don't know if that's worse than owning land

1298
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,959
Speaker 5: and not letting people hunt it, because you're not really

1299
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 5: sharing the resource.

1300
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: I do share. I mean there's not there's not I

1301
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: don't have I don't have one public land. I do

1302
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: not have one public land secret that I don't that

1303
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't share with my circle of friends that that

1304
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: that that that we network.

1305
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 6: How big is that circle?

1306
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: What's the initiation for that circle?

1307
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt.

1308
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: It's big because it's spread all around, Yeah, across the country. Yeah,

1309
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: it's spread all around. I mean there's probably I could

1310
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: sit and list. I could probably list there's probably twenty

1311
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: people that depending on what's going on, that I would

1312
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, buddy.

1313
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 6: I mean we've checked spots because we don't hunt that anymore.

1314
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And because it's public lands, that's what I'm saying.

1315
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 6: I mean it's public ground that we've hunted, that we

1316
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 6: hunted for a long time while we were busting to

1317
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 6: have our own ground, you know. So we we pay

1318
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 6: for a lease in a spot, and then we've you know,

1319
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 6: we purchased some grounds. So so there's not the need

1320
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 6: to continually stomp out public because it's not a it's

1321
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 6: a big it's a big place, but it's not giant

1322
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 6: compared to the pressure. You know.

1323
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: It's all I just think it's all part of it's

1324
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: just all part of fun. Man. And then I'm like

1325
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: way more sympathetic to kids, right if someone's trying to

1326
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: get their kid into some action, We're more sympathetic to

1327
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: record deals.

1328
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 6: If you get a record deals, there's a good chance

1329
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 6: you can find some of our secrets out.

1330
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: Moving on, Uh we well we The last time you

1331
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: guys are on the show, we talked about country music

1332
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: and the place that like outdoor living holds within country music.

1333
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: How would you guys describe that? I mean, like, sort

1334
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: of the confluence is very strong. It's not it's not

1335
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 2: a subtle connection. And I would argue that it is

1336
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: like I listened to country music made from the I

1337
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: don't like anything like pre mid seventies. I listened to

1338
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: country music from the mid seventies to present. It has grown.

1339
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: The outdoor hunting, fishing references and stuff within country has

1340
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: absolutely grown in that time. Yeah, I agree to maybe

1341
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 2: a crescendo right now.

1342
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 6: I think it's always going to be a part. And

1343
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 6: you also gotta we also got to like draw a

1344
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 6: line between like commercial music and non commercial music.

1345
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: Okay, draw that line from it.

1346
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 6: It's just just a different bit of a genre. And

1347
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 6: I feel like those genres are kind of blending right now,

1348
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 6: don't you.

1349
01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree, Yeah, I don't know if if

1350
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 7: it's if it's like more people like you know, it's

1351
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 7: kind of a snowball effect where you know, it started

1352
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 7: getting written about and started getting sung about and and

1353
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 7: now people are kind of jumping onto that ship and

1354
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 7: writing about it.

1355
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 4: Or if it's just more people are.

1356
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 7: Writing lifestyle music and writing what they know, and you

1357
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 7: have more of those lifestyles coming into town trying to

1358
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 7: do what you know, trying to write commercial songs, and

1359
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 7: so it's a good term. More of that content is

1360
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 7: getting put into the songs that are getting played on

1361
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 7: the radio because more people do it, you know, it's

1362
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 7: it's their lifestyle besides you know, not doing it.

1363
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: When you say lifestyle music, explain what you mean by

1364
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: that as opposed to.

1365
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 7: Faking it, as opposed to, yeah, writing about something you

1366
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 7: don't know, me writing about New York City. You know,

1367
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 7: I wouldn't know what If I was going to write

1368
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 7: a song about New York City, I would have to

1369
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 7: look up what's in Times Square because I don't know.

1370
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 4: I don't I hadn't spent time there.

1371
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 7: I don't you know, I don't know what buildings are where,

1372
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 7: or what little restaurants or you know, little little niche

1373
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 7: places that are local to people that they would want

1374
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 7: to hear that tune. But I can write a song

1375
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 7: right now about the woods or or fishing or being

1376
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 7: on a boat or four wheeler or you know. And

1377
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 7: and that's what we've always taught. When we talked about that,

1378
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 7: and and the Josh Thompson episode, it's about to me,

1379
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 7: country music is, and writing songs is writing what you know,

1380
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 7: and and and writing about your life. And if you know,

1381
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 7: my life is all about my family, God and hunting

1382
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 7: and and and so most of the songs that I'm

1383
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 7: gonna pin out or ideas that I have, if if

1384
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 7: they meet that space, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1385
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 7: put in there something about sitting in a you know,

1386
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 7: an oak flat in November and and watching the sun

1387
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 7: rise while I'm sitting there waiting on a buck to

1388
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 7: walk by, you know, because that's what I know, that's

1389
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 7: what I love, and that's that's that's the truth of

1390
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 7: to me.

1391
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: You me, and a move like you're gonna play something.

1392
01:06:59,360 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: Well.

1393
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 6: I was just thinking a lot of our songs do that,

1394
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 6: but there are also songs like it's just like a

1395
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 6: total smooth sex tune. You know what I mean, Like

1396
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 6: let me hear it.

1397
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't hear the sex part.

1398
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 4: Put you gotta put the two get ready we singing this?

1399
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 6: You are okay?

1400
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 4: I don't have to have with the lyrics.

1401
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 6: Ready here with the verse.

1402
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 4: We bent burning both in keeping the lights song. This

1403
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 4: is not a hunting song, by the way, what we

1404
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 4: do know a song?

1405
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 10: I bent thinking we need it a little time alone.

1406
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 4: Three week, number one's one five.

1407
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 10: We'll just say we cancel a plane tonight. I'm morning

1408
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 10: gonna be a man.

1409
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 4: Let's get some cana burning song.

1410
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: Record all the linestyle.

1411
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 11: Taking that saying, so the way your body's moving, keep

1412
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 11: doing what you're doing to me.

1413
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 4: Got not love song, girl, I wanta gotta heavy. Let

1414
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 4: the passion take us to a higher please making that

1415
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 4: kind of love.

1416
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 5: We mad.

1417
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 6: Not really about the outdoors, but we.

1418
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 4: Have outdoors songs, so I'm just saying I don't know

1419
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 4: where they came from.

1420
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 6: You gotta write what you know, is what he says.

1421
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 6: I'm trying to explain that as a commercial country writer,

1422
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 6: you have to be versatile in the areas that you know,

1423
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 6: So no, not all of them are Tailgate. Hey, man,

1424
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 6: come on out, check this lifestyle out. But we also

1425
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 6: have a lot of songs about that too.

1426
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 7: But it's kind of like we were talking about earlier.

1427
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 7: It's it's it's constructing an album. And and you know,

1428
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 7: if if I was making an album, I would want

1429
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 7: love songs on there.

1430
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 4: I would want dad songs on there. I would like

1431
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: hunting songs on there.

1432
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 7: You know, I wouldn't necessarily want a song about New

1433
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 7: York City or something like that, because that's not true.

1434
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 4: It's not my lifestyle.

1435
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: We recently had Evan Felker on Uh turnpot Yeah on

1436
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: the podcast right dude, well, he is love that stuff.

1437
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: I was asking him about. I had some a couple

1438
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: of questions about the role of the outdoors and and

1439
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: his music, and I said, do you ever think to yourself, man,

1440
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 2: I should put more I could put more hunting references in,

1441
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: or I should pull him out. He says he didn't

1442
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: really like the question, but eventually said that I guess

1443
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 2: if I thought one way or the other, I think

1444
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: that I could get away with putting more in. But

1445
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: he said, for me, I don't make it. It's not

1446
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: about that. It's just the background, Like I need people

1447
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: they're doing something, so I'm not talking about the act

1448
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 2: of doing it. I'm talking about something that's going on

1449
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 2: in people's lives and that's just what they're doing. That's

1450
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: what's happening. Yeah, So it's the backdrop of the subject.

1451
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 7: Which is which is the thing, because I mean, hearing

1452
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 7: you say that, you can absolutely write I mean better together.

1453
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 7: It was a great example of that is is you're

1454
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 7: writing a love song that's a that's a that's a

1455
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 7: slow tempo you to your you know, the one you love.

1456
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 7: But it's got eight eight points in autumn, you know,

1457
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 7: and and.

1458
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: It's and it's got a yeah board board.

1459
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 7: So so you're seeing that, and that's that's something to

1460
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 7: commercial songwriting in the country music. Realm two is like

1461
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 7: painting these pictures of the life that we all lead,

1462
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,440
Speaker 7: but at the same time tying them into a subject

1463
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 7: that's love or or you know, something else, whatever it is.

1464
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 6: That's my favorite part of the trick to The favorite

1465
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 6: thing about the thing we just played and how it's

1466
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 6: relative is that when that song was going to radio,

1467
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 6: three of the wives of the four people that wrote

1468
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 6: it were pregnant.

1469
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: So it's like they had been doing.

1470
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 6: Some of that.

1471
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: And here's a little thing too.

1472
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: We were actually jump we were we were.

1473
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 7: In Mississippi on a turkey hunt, and it was it

1474
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 7: rained us out that morning when we wrote the song,

1475
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 7: when we wrote half the song we started.

1476
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 6: We literally went down there to turkey hunt.

1477
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 4: We were in Camoina.

1478
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 6: We will don't try to step a million dollars. I

1479
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 6: don't want to hear no turkey hunting down and from

1480
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 6: from from meat eater. I don't want to hear nothing

1481
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 6: about what we need to do turkey hunting.

1482
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got.

1483
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 6: Walk up and go. Man, these help sounds sound pretty

1484
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 6: shitty over here. Don't you just don't want to even

1485
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 6: step on the court with turkey. I've seen a couple

1486
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 6: of those episodes.

1487
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: I stand corrected. I stand corrected. You don't need to go.

1488
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 4: Wet, dude.

1489
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 7: I got plenty I've killed plenty of I got pictures

1490
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 7: to show you this dripping wet turkeys.

1491
01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 6: I would I would rather write a hit song say that,

1492
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 6: much like Reid says, he always says this, you write

1493
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 6: what you know, and if you can blend some of

1494
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 6: I feel like if I can get five percent of

1495
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 6: either my upbringing or what I'm into now or whatever

1496
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 6: into a song. I feel like, Okay, I can you know,

1497
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 6: not all of them are one hundred percenters. You know,

1498
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 6: this artist needs to say exactly what I'm feeling or

1499
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 6: what I've been through in my life. It doesn't it

1500
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 6: doesn't necessarily work that. Sometimes you're just making words rhyme.

1501
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 6: Now a lot of the time, yeah, a lot of

1502
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 6: the time. It's that the general idea is from a

1503
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 6: genuine place, right.

1504
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: But but if you had to be.

1505
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 6: A commercial writer and write two hundred songs a year

1506
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 6: and every one of them had to be about what

1507
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 6: you've been through?

1508
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 2: Is that a volume that's achievable to work to touch

1509
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: that songs? I mean, for us, you'll touch that many songs.

1510
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 6: Well, I mean there have been years, not now, but

1511
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 6: at the in the in the grind, in the early

1512
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 6: probably first five.

1513
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean you write at least three songs

1514
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 3: a week. There's fifty two weeks that.

1515
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 8: In a year. I mean that's one hundred and sixty ish.

1516
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 8: I mean I'm confronted that a yeah, yeah, I mean so.

1517
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 6: But I mean, like me, I have a nine year

1518
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 6: catalog at Sony where I've been the first five of those.

1519
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 6: I was writing five days a week, sometimes two times

1520
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 6: a day. And what my point is, the well will

1521
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 6: run dry on your experiences, which is why you need

1522
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 6: co wrotes, you need other influences, you need Hey, he

1523
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 6: needs a song in this realm. Otherwise you're just writing.

1524
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 6: It just absolutely melts your brain.

1525
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: There's a question I have that's more interesting to me

1526
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: than it is to any of the songwriters. I've asked

1527
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 2: this question too, would be you'll produce a Let's say

1528
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 2: you produce a song here like sit in Nashville.

1529
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 6: Produce is a weird that that'd be a weird term

1530
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 6: though you said to create something. Yeah, uh, just clearing

1531
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 6: it up.

1532
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: So here you are, like you guys grew up in

1533
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: the broader area. You grew up in the region, right, Yeah,

1534
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: you're working out in Nashville, Tennessee, and you're and you're

1535
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: working with a You're working with some outdoor know how

1536
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: that would be known here, but might not even be

1537
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: broadly known to other outdoorsmen outside of the country. Meeting

1538
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: I know outdoorsmen that if I said, like, I know

1539
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: guys in Alaska, for instance, older guys in Alaska. If

1540
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: I said I got a nice eight on camera, They're

1541
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: not gonna know what I meant, really, because they don't

1542
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: they're not in they don't do trail cameras. They don't

1543
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: traffic in the lingo a nice eight. Now, if you

1544
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: said I got a nice eight point buck on my

1545
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 2: trail camera, they'd piece that together, but they might not

1546
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 2: meet recognize that. So but and that's even some hu familiar.

1547
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 2: So the thing that I'm always curious about with songwriting

1548
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 2: is here in Nashville, you're exporting music around the world.

1549
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: People around the world are listening to the music you produce.

1550
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: But then you have these references. There are no way

1551
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: references that are no way going to be understood, right

1552
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: because for them to be legitimate, they're like insider references. Sure,

1553
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 2: I asked about this point. We're talking about like a

1554
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: Johnson outboard. Now, if you if you went to most

1555
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: people on the street and you asked them, hey, name

1556
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: some outboard companies who makes outboard, They're gonna be like, well,

1557
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: Honda makes outboards, Yamaha makes outboards, Evan Rude makes aullboards.

1558
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: No one around now is gonna say Johnson's right. But

1559
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: there's a there's a great reason to use that because

1560
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's it brings reminiscent nostalgic. Right, It's

1561
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 2: like a certain type of person is going to have

1562
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: and know that.

1563
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 6: I ask you this, when was when do you feel

1564
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 6: like Johnson was the one?

1565
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: Like? When?

1566
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 6: What listener?

1567
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 2: Like? What year?

1568
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 6: Section?

1569
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 2: I'm talking about specific demographic here. I was born in

1570
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four, and we spent the eighties trying to

1571
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: keep a Johnson ten running.

1572
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 6: See, I was born in nineteen eighty three, and when

1573
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 6: we had Johnson's So between seventy what did you say?

1574
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 6: How old are you?

1575
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: Like? One hundred and fifty? Right?

1576
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 6: So between that age and like my age, we know

1577
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 6: that that was the one in there. So when you

1578
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 6: think about demographics, I would say probably the people who

1579
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 6: are listening to that, That's why I clicked in them,

1580
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 6: is because most of them were. We're seeing that.

1581
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 4: And you kind of get two birds today it'd be

1582
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 4: a tatsu, you know what I mean.

1583
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: But it doesn't sound good though exactly.

1584
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 7: Which is part of that's part of the thing too.

1585
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 7: But you're getting that, you're getting two things with one word.

1586
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 7: There is you're you're painting that picture of a motor

1587
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 7: on the back of the boat, which most people would get,

1588
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 7: and that's they would listen to that lyric and then

1589
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 7: going to the next one. Or you get the guy

1590
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 7: who was trying to keep a Johnson Owen for ten

1591
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 7: years and that immediately clicks and he's stuck there, you know,

1592
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 7: and that takes him back to man, probably some of

1593
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 7: the best days of his life.

1594
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 6: So kind of like boxing too. It's like you hit

1595
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 6: with a left and then there's a line right after that.

1596
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, and some guys, some guys might dodge that right

1597
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 7: hook that's coming, or some guys might get knocked out

1598
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 7: by hook.

1599
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 4: So you kind of thanks man.

1600
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: I asked Evan Felker about his use of a Belgium okay,

1601
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 2: a Belgium brown So that's like, you know, I brought

1602
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 2: that up. Then all kinds of people wrote in, I

1603
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: can't believe Renilda doesn't know about the Belgium made brownings.

1604
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 2: My old man thought he had a Belgium made browning,

1605
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: so and he got it. So when my maternal grandfather died,

1606
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 2: my dad took possession of his browning A five, which

1607
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: my dad mistakenly thought was a Belgium made Browning, which

1608
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: meant something to him and didn't mean anything to anyone

1609
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: around him. But then here it's a reference like he's

1610
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 2: holding it understanding you're gonna wind up. You have a

1611
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: reference that people aren't gonna know what you're talking about. Yeah,

1612
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 2: for sure, a lot of people like it. Not you

1613
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,839
Speaker 2: have a reference that a lot of people it's con overhead.

1614
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, but some of us there's also some some interest

1615
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 6: in having people just try to figure it out to right,

1616
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 6: like go dive in there and see see what. Like, Okay,

1617
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 6: let me ask you this. The fact that it's not

1618
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 6: Belgium made, does that take anything away from you owning

1619
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 6: the good Yoh?

1620
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I had been raised to think that it

1621
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: was great. And then we looked up the serial number and.

1622
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 6: We're like, does it say made in Belgium.

1623
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 2: No, there's all these there's all these ways you could

1624
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: have known if you knew, But no, we just looked up.

1625
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: There's a serial number, look up and you tell where

1626
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: it was manufactured.

1627
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 6: After it went to mind says made in Belgium.

1628
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 2: Oh, well that means it didn't. I don't know why

1629
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: he thought it did. I don't know where it's at

1630
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: right now. Probably in my mind.

1631
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 6: Well, you don't even care anymore.

1632
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: No, I do care. I had I tried to shoot

1633
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: it for a while.

1634
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,480
Speaker 4: You're saying you'd care more if it was a Belgium.

1635
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. What it means more to you

1636
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 6: if it's Belgium made.

1637
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wouldn't be able to tell you why

1638
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: they're better. But either way it didn't work good. Maybe

1639
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 2: it feels Beltgiman who worked good didn't cycle. It wouldn't

1640
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 2: cycle anything, wouldn't cycle anything.

1641
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 4: I think too though, going back to the reference.

1642
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 7: Thing is the front of our minds in a writing

1643
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 7: country music, and it might be different for La pop

1644
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 7: writers or New York writers writing pop songs. Like we

1645
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 7: write country music, commercial country music with the country listener

1646
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 7: at the front of our mind.

1647
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: God, so like.

1648
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 4: We're gonna use the lingo that the South is gonna.

1649
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: Pick up on?

1650
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 6: Can I just interjectateor like without even knowing, you just

1651
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 6: clicked my brain into songwriting mode and I didn't even

1652
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 6: hear the last thirty seconds of what we were talking

1653
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 6: about because you said I wouldn't be able to tell

1654
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 6: you why, and that's a great hook, Like I wouldn't

1655
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,480
Speaker 6: be able to tell you why, and you can. Immediately

1656
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 6: my brain went, oh, man, why I love you? Why

1657
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 6: I don't love you? Why I fell out of love

1658
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 6: you with you while I fell in love with you.

1659
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 6: I'm not able to tell you why. Why did we

1660
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 6: break up? I don't know. I'm not able to tell

1661
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 6: you why. Like it just doesn't turn off as soon

1662
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 6: as something hits that, you're like, man, And then I

1663
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 6: started thinking, well, who would be somebody that could sing that?

1664
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 6: And you start running artists through your brain. Then you go, well,

1665
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 6: does this guy need that or is it already cleared up?

1666
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 6: Is he already cut? And he's not cutting from another

1667
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 6: two years? So knock that guy out? Who's the next

1668
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 6: guy on the list? And that all that happened within

1669
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 6: the last thirty seconds. Because you said he's hard to

1670
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 6: follow a conversation. Well, I started to bring my to

1671
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 6: take my phone down to my phone and I was like, nah,

1672
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 6: Katie sitting right beside me, show sure that that would

1673
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 6: be rude. Just sacrifice that idea if anybody writes.

1674
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, nobody wrote that right that before this, here's one that's.

1675
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: Good for you. It's my favorite quote.

1676
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 6: Hey wait, I don't know if I want you to

1677
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 6: say it on here because then everybody could know because

1678
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 6: we'll just write it before this comes out.

1679
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: That's a great.

1680
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 6: Quote, all right.

1681
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 2: I was explaining to him.

1682
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 6: He God, do you think it's gonna be good?

1683
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 11: Or no?

1684
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: This is good. No, I see you're saying that, but

1685
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: we know whether it is what they all say. I

1686
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 2: wasn't good. I wouldn't be telling you. I wouldn't have

1687
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 2: it written. Favorite quote. Yeah, they also I got favorite

1688
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: quotes I got somebody wouldn't say in their go ahead. Yeah,

1689
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: he said. I was explaining something hint to him about manufacturing,

1690
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 2: and manufacturing is his business. He manufactures in a different

1691
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: sector in the sector of manufacturing I was talking about

1692
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: and I was telling him like, well, everybody knows you

1693
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 2: can't blank, to which he says, I don't know why

1694
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 2: that's not true, but that's not true.

1695
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 6: Pretty good. It's better than my dad's. My dad's was

1696
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 6: working for the weekend, So I'll take that.

1697
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 4: One, bro, Dad's dads are better. When he doesn't even

1698
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 4: know he's saying.

1699
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 6: Them, I know.

1700
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: My mom's like, my mom will come up.

1701
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 4: With a great idea to tell you, and you can

1702
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 4: write that. Dad's like, hey, man, listen.

1703
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 7: I woke up last night with an incredible thought working

1704
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 7: for the weekend, and I'm like, okay, well and then

1705
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 7: he starts telling me what he did yesterday and I'll

1706
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 7: get four US song ideas out of that.

1707
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what songwriters do you guys like?

1708
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 6: I'm a big Tony Lane fan. Oh man, Yeah, there's

1709
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 6: a lot we don't like too.

1710
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 7: I mean we've had tell me yeah, I mean I

1711
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 7: didn't put a negative. Yeah, we had him, We had

1712
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 7: him on the podcast and he'll have his episode out.

1713
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 7: But you know, Casey bethard Is is the goat man.

1714
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 2: Now? Is it like? You like them? The ones you like?

1715
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 2: You like them lyrically, you like them because the melody

1716
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: that's interesting.

1717
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 6: I mean I say this all the time. We write

1718
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 6: with a lot of people. We know, we've met a

1719
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 6: lot of people, and songwriters to me are the most entertaining,

1720
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 6: coolest individuals on earth because there's always there's usually a

1721
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 6: sense of humbleness because the town kicked them in the

1722
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 6: teeth for ten to fifteen.

1723
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: Years old when they were trying to be a performer.

1724
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 6: For sure, they figured the thing out or just.

1725
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 4: A songwriter, yeah, yeah, they.

1726
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 6: Figured the thing out and then and then their stuff

1727
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 6: started hitting, and they stayed true to what they are,

1728
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 6: regardless of what that is.

1729
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think with most of them.

1730
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 7: Man, now that we've moved to town and we've met

1731
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 7: a lot of the guys that a lot of the

1732
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 7: guys that were writing the songs that we'd love growing

1733
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 7: up up, you know, we've met some of those cats,

1734
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 7: and and it's it's everything. It's it's who they are

1735
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 7: as a person. It's it's their their story that you

1736
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 7: they tell you and you can see where these songs

1737
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 7: came from. And it's the lyrics and the stories and

1738
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 7: the songs, and it's the way they sing them in

1739
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 7: the melody and all of it. It's it's all those

1740
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 7: things that make you love somebody's work, you know.

1741
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 6: Now, I'd say, man, there they're they're major guys, like

1742
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 6: I mean, Whalen, you.

1743
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 4: Know, Christopherson, Yeah, uh, Johnny Cash.

1744
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 6: I mean, all these people wrote songs, but there are

1745
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 6: also people behind the curtains that are that are so

1746
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 6: important to the genre that a lot of people never see.

1747
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 6: And those people and a lot of those writers don't

1748
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 6: want you to see them. They want to stay. And

1749
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 6: I segue I also think That's what's great about what

1750
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 6: the podcast that we're doing is we're able to bring

1751
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 6: a light to those people without just completely exploiting them.

1752
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 6: You know. It's it's it's more of a like a

1753
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 6: respect issue and and saying that, hey, these guys earn

1754
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 6: their stripes as well. There are guys like Casey Bether,

1755
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 6: Josh Thompson, Bryce Long, the people that we've had on,

1756
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 6: the people that we plan to have on, who just

1757
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 6: live behind that curtain and.

1758
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, and grew up just like everybody else, like same

1759
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 7: stories as we all got about in are.

1760
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 6: Absolute masterful wordsmith, What is.

1761
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 2: The general trajectory? You just use the term move to town,

1762
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: ten year town, baby, I guess that means that, like

1763
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: you moved to Nashville. What's the general trajectory.

1764
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 4: Ten year town, ten town, whatever?

1765
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: Cause, I mean it's and for me it was, but

1766
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: tell tell me from you guys.

1767
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 6: So I moved. I moved here in oh.

1768
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 2: Eight because of what I mean, I know why, But like,

1769
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: how did you go?

1770
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 5: Like?

1771
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 6: Now was my now is? I had a band. I

1772
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 6: had a funk country band. We played but we played

1773
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 6: Stevie Wonder.

1774
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 4: We played Jamie Davis and soul gravy.

1775
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:46,480
Speaker 7: Dan was the soul gravy got it?

1776
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 4: What what did I just do?

1777
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 6: Somebody likes to say I was the gravy and I

1778
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 6: don't know why they say that.

1779
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: Do you no me either? So we had this band

1780
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 2: and like you're the good thing that they put on

1781
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: top of something.

1782
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 8: I think it's geez.

1783
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 6: Jordan just why'd you look at my stomach when she

1784
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 6: said wait?

1785
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: So?

1786
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 6: Uh, anyway, we we we were getting these we I

1787
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 6: didn't know it, but we were actually getting the run,

1788
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,799
Speaker 6: the Nashville like run, like possibly signing us as a band,

1789
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 6: and they were putting us with different riders.

1790
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: We didn't know it. Well, we were talking to me

1791
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: like I'm five years old.

1792
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 6: Well, we were essentially babies in the industry and didn't

1793
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 6: know that this could even be a career. Right, So

1794
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 6: when our band starts getting the frontman Jamie, who's one

1795
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 6: of my best buddies, and then me, we're coming up

1796
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 6: here and doing the co writes with with they were

1797
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 6: they were using their leverage to get us into rooms

1798
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 6: that we didn't necessarily even deserve on the possibility that

1799
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 6: we might be a signed band.

1800
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: But they is who the business, whether that.

1801
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 4: Be a manager, a manager, B and my uh and.

1802
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 2: You guys had your band was where based out of

1803
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: North Mississippi. So you started getting some tracks, start getting

1804
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: so you get some invites to work on stuff. There

1805
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: you go yep.

1806
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 6: And as that starts happening, we kind of realized, like

1807
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 6: we don't want to necessarily be that upfront band right

1808
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 6: Like it was fun, but I don't want to I

1809
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 6: never wanted to do that. I always wanted to be

1810
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 6: a songwriter, a back like harmony singer, a company guitarist.

1811
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 6: I never had. I never had ambitions for the Light.

1812
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 6: Reid grew up under us and his band and I

1813
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 6: mean having little bands and stuff. My favorite story about

1814
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 6: him is when when we started, I was I was

1815
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 6: traveling with his band, just kind of helping. And then

1816
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 6: when a big run of shows came in on the

1817
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 6: week on the starting date of both season me and

1818
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 6: Dad I told him I couldn't go. I said, me

1819
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 6: and Dad are going to deer Camp. He was like what.

1820
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 6: I was like, Yeah, we're going to deer Camp. He's like, Oh,

1821
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 6: if y'all think y'all are leaving me on the road

1822
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 6: while y'all go to deer camp, it's out hung up

1823
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 6: the phone, canceled all the gigs and never played in

1824
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 6: another one.

1825
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 7: And here's my Here's I'm I'm gonna be real vulnerable

1826
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 7: with this. But my it was never my dream to

1827
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 7: do this. It was never my dream to write songs.

1828
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 7: I had a dream to perform like because I always did.

1829
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 4: I grew up in church. My dad was a Baptist

1830
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 4: pastor still is and I sang. I was the front man.

1831
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 7: I sang every Sunday two and three times standing ovations,

1832
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 7: Let's sing it again, like I alway, that was my

1833
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 7: I grew up doing that, and so I felt like

1834
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 7: I had a My dream was to perform to big

1835
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 7: audiences and crowds and then moving here. And I didn't

1836
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 7: move here on the on the base to do that.

1837
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 7: I moved here because dam was like, hey man, you

1838
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 7: need to come do this like And I was in

1839
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 7: school at ut Knoxville, chased a girl up there, terrible decision,

1840
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 7: got some great song ideas out of it, but filled

1841
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 7: physics twice and was kind of sitting.

1842
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 4: I was actually at their show. I was literally Jamie.

1843
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 4: It was on Christmas break.

1844
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 7: It was on Christmas break Mississippi and my girlfriend at

1845
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 7: the time, sorry, I'm sorry Joean for talking about a

1846
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 7: girlfriend time. But my girlfriend at the time called me.

1847
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 7: She goes, hey, you failed physics again. She was like,

1848
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,879
Speaker 7: what are you gonna do? And I was like, ex girlfriend,

1849
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 7: how did she know she took dude, because she signed

1850
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 7: me up from my classes. I didn't even know what

1851
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,919
Speaker 7: credits were in college. Bro, Like she just did everything

1852
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 7: because that and that's how like, I just didn't know

1853
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 7: what I wanted to do. And she was like, you

1854
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 7: feel physics for a second time. You're not getting into

1855
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 7: med school?

1856
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 2: And I was.

1857
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 7: I was having a good time in Cupolo, Misissippi, sitting

1858
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 7: on a park bench outside this club where they were

1859
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 7: playing this song and I was kind of looking up.

1860
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 4: She goes, what are you gonna do? And me and

1861
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 4: Dan had been like, dude, you got to move to Nashville.

1862
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 6: Man.

1863
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 7: We write from you know, three to eleven, We three

1864
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 7: or four days a week. We get to travel. And

1865
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 7: I and I was sitting there my part bitch and

1866
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 7: I told her. I was like, I think I think

1867
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 7: I'm moving to Nashville. She was like, what what are

1868
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 7: you going to do in Nashville. I was like, I

1869
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 7: don't know, I'm gonna sing and write songs. We broke

1870
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 7: up that night on the phone on that part bench

1871
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 7: atu below. I walked inside, this was going down.

1872
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 4: I went through.

1873
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm like slithering my way through this crowd

1874
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 7: of people, who are you know, singing every Jamie Davis song,

1875
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 7: these cover songs, and I.

1876
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 4: Get to the front and I went Dan and.

1877
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 6: I'm like, dang.

1878
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: People call me spans Cat. What I went?

1879
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 4: I went? I went, I'm moving to Nashville.

1880
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 6: People call me the gangster of I'm like, what do

1881
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:16,799
Speaker 6: I fell.

1882
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 4: Minute again and I just broke up with my girlfriend.

1883
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh sick, all right, let me finish this.

1884
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 6: I kind of got a thing going. I'll get back

1885
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 6: to you in a minute.

1886
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: And that was it.

1887
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 6: That was it.

1888
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 4: I moved that semester. At the end of that semester,

1889
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 4: I moved to town.

1890
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 7: We started writing some songs for my project, and we

1891
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,839
Speaker 7: got a band going. We went out and played some shows,

1892
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 7: and I quickly found out that that's not what I

1893
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 7: wanted to do. I had fallen in love with with

1894
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 7: writing music in the room and hearing other people sing

1895
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 7: those songs, but being gone, I'm a homebody and there

1896
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 7: ain't no way that my dad and my brother are

1897
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 7: gonna be grilling real biz's at Deer Camp in the

1898
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 7: fall when I'm out here grinding my ass off on

1899
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 7: a tour bus, you know, twenty two hours a day,

1900
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 7: just enjoying the hour and a half if I'm on

1901
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 7: stage and I found out that that wasn't for me.

1902
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 2: And if you enjoy the twenty two hours but you

1903
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 2: hate the hour and a half you're on stage, you're.

1904
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 4: In a predicament too, because because well, they don't pay

1905
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 4: you to play it.

1906
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 6: I feel like.

1907
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 8: Josh Thompson's episode is a great answer to that question

1908
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 8: because he talks about that.

1909
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Josh is a great example of that.

1910
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 7: The guy moved to town, got a record deal, did

1911
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 7: the thing, hated it, man hated it, but loved writing

1912
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 7: songs and loved being at home because you still get

1913
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 7: to scratch that creative itch that you have within those

1914
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 7: walls of a writing room, but don't have to be

1915
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 7: away from your family and you know, do the grind

1916
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 7: that is being a recording artist in Nashville.

1917
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 6: Speaking of which I've had a creative itch ever since

1918
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 6: we ate that deer that the k.

1919
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well money, talk to your.

1920
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 6: Town dude, all I'm saying is, as you come to

1921
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 6: the town as a writer, essentially, what what you go

1922
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 6: through is finding your people first off, trying to get in.

1923
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 6: However you can get in a lot of the times,

1924
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 6: that's writers rounds where there's this confluence of people who

1925
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 6: are trying to all get to the same place, and

1926
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 6: they end up co writing and writing maybe a song

1927
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 6: that gets picked up by a smaller artist or a

1928
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 6: larger artist, or maybe they get an album cut on something,

1929
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, a publishing company comes

1930
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 6: snooping and goes, hey, we see that you're friends with

1931
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 6: who artists X, and it looks like you have four

1932
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 6: or five on his record and he just got a

1933
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 6: record deal, which immediately means there's going to be income

1934
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 6: on those songs. So we would like to take a

1935
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 6: chance on you, and even though you don't have enough

1936
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 6: money to quit your day job as a pizza pizza

1937
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 6: delivery guy, we like to give you a substantial amount

1938
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 6: of income substantial, okay, a minimal source of income in

1939
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 6: order to make your bill so that you can write

1940
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 6: full time. And when that happens, they usually end up

1941
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 6: giving a large portion of their publishing to that in

1942
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 6: order to get off the ground, which is what happened

1943
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 6: with both of us, which is kind of the play, right,

1944
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 6: And so once you get in there and you start

1945
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 6: writing songs, it's like, man, if I can just keep

1946
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 6: doing this and get a cut here, a cut there,

1947
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 6: then make them their money back, then all of a sudden,

1948
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 6: there's longevity in what I'm doing, and over the court

1949
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 6: that entire process, it's just been proven. I mean, now, look,

1950
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 6: there is absolutely people who move to town and have

1951
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 6: a hit within six months of being here. But the

1952
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 6: majority of people that come here, learn the craft, get

1953
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 6: their teeth kicked in, have a bye to success.

1954
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 4: Stay uncomfortable for a long amount of time.

1955
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, and end up crying in a parking lot in

1956
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 6: their car when they hear their song on the radio.

1957
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,759
Speaker 2: Is a is a major's store.

1958
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,440
Speaker 5: There's a lot of similarities between book publishing, Oh my god, yeah,

1959
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 5: and writers in New York that that we know and

1960
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 5: people that have like some people at their first book,

1961
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 5: it's like New York Times bestseller. We have friends that

1962
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 5: have done that, and then friends that have written for

1963
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 5: twenty years and you know, love it, stay with it

1964
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 5: and might find success later on. But it's it's yeah,

1965
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 5: there's a I think that's the thing that I love

1966
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 5: about this podcast that you guys have so lovingly put together,

1967
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 5: is that I don't know a lot about country music.

1968
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 5: Like I'm learning about country music really through this podcast.

1969
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 5: I don't. I'm not super passionate about hunting myself. I'm

1970
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 5: very happy that our family has involved in it the

1971
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 5: way that we are. But I feel like I can

1972
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 5: relate to the episodes that I've been able to listen

1973
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 5: to because of the personal journeys, because of the stories.

1974
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 5: There's a there's similarities to other, you know, individuals in

1975
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 5: their own path that I find a lot of resonance in.

1976
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 5: And you know, I was listening to one of the

1977
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 5: early episodes, one of the edits with our oldest Jimmy

1978
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 5: on the way to school, and I think I texted

1979
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 5: you guys about this. He was like, this is my

1980
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 5: favorite Meet Eater podcast. I was like, you better watch out.

1981
01:33:58,960 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 6: I'm not.

1982
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 5: But I get it. I mean, I love it.

1983
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 6: And wait, I'm curious as to why he said that,

1984
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 6: and I'm not.

1985
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 2: Trying to get.

1986
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1987
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like, man, you laugh a lot listening to

1988
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 5: your podcast, you guys, I think obviously your brothers.

1989
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 8: They won't brag on themselves, but I will brag on them.

1990
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 8: But I think something that also makes it really great

1991
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 8: is these guys lived on a houseboat for four years

1992
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 8: before I mean these ten years at the ten Year Town.

1993
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 8: For four of those years they lived on a houseboat together.

1994
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 8: They caught their dinner off the back deck of the boat,

1995
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 8: They washed their clothes in the y m c a gym,

1996
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 8: in the gym locker room. Facts like all these things.

1997
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 8: And I think whenever people come, they're human, and they're

1998
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 8: very relatable to a lot of these people that are

1999
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 8: coming in here to tell their stories, and everybody that

2000
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 8: sat down on this couch with them, I think connects

2001
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 8: with them on a human level. And the conversations that

2002
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 8: have happened thus far have been very prett much. Everybody

2003
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 8: that's come in here has told a story that hasn't

2004
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 8: been told and on any other platform, because it's they're

2005
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 8: being interviewed by their buddies who share a very similar experience.

2006
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 8: They're not being interviewed on the Today Show, if that

2007
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 8: makes sense. And I think that that's really what has

2008
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 8: made it such a cool thing and will continue to

2009
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 8: make it a cool thing because you guys are just dudes,

2010
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 8: and you grind.

2011
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 3: You're still grinding. I mean, they're still so far to go.

2012
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,799
Speaker 8: And I don't know, I just feel like people, everyone

2013
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 8: that's come in here so far, it's been very like human,

2014
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 8: even top Hall of Fame songwriters have come in here

2015
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 8: and Ben Haslip talking about owning the hat company and

2016
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 8: grinding out.

2017
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2018
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 8: I just think it's been really cool and it's going

2019
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 8: to be cool for fans to see that as well.

2020
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 6: I was extremely nervous about knowing too much about the business,

2021
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 6: you know, to come in and talk about it day

2022
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 6: in and day out, Like how boring does that get?

2023
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 6: You know? But what's been beautiful is what you're saying,

2024
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 6: is having a platform to where people can just come

2025
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 6: in and just tell stories, like because that's essentially all

2026
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 6: songwriter is a really great storyteller, you know. Yeah, and

2027
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 6: finding a way to put that to music.

2028
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 7: And every journey, every journey to Nashville, moving to town,

2029
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 7: or you know, the journey from from a songwriter's young

2030
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 7: life to loving country music to get in here to

2031
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 7: actually doing it is. Yeah, there are similarities within it,

2032
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 7: but man, they're so unique and those stories that come out.

2033
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 4: Of that well of of stories are some of the

2034
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 4: best that I think you can hear, because, like Dan said,

2035
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 4: I mean, that's their job.

2036
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 7: Our job is to is to tell a story in

2037
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 7: such a way and to paint it in such a

2038
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 7: way that you want to listen to it over and

2039
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 7: over and over and over. And we're getting those from

2040
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 7: from the from the best of the best.

2041
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 6: Man.

2042
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,680
Speaker 2: So how deep is the well? I mean very deep?

2043
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 6: And the reason the well is deep is because you

2044
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 6: go through those times and and I can. I mean

2045
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 6: people ask me all the time, when did you start writing?

2046
01:36:57,479 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 6: And I was, like, man, third grade first, as soon

2047
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 6: as I could literally write, like I had to, that

2048
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 6: was my way of expressing myself. And I remember I

2049
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 6: remember dealing with like I mean, I was a big

2050
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 6: football player, you know. And I remember like I couldn't shore,

2051
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,600
Speaker 6: I couldn't share with anybody my writing because that was

2052
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 6: too effeminate for who I was. I was a football player.

2053
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 6: I was a deer killer man I was we were

2054
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 6: we were catching fish. I couldn't be no poet, you

2055
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 6: know what I mean. I didn't have a place, didn't

2056
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 6: have a place, took buddies occasionally, but the whole point

2057
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 6: being is that, like I always wrote, I always expressed myself.

2058
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 6: And until I figured out that if you put those

2059
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 6: poems to music you could get chicks, I was like, oh,

2060
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 6: maybe I need to learn how to play guitar in

2061
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 6: order to do that. And then this whole.

2062
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 2: What were you're writing poems? Yeah?

2063
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, And just like my mom even talks about, you know,

2064
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 6: if I liked a girl or something, I would journal

2065
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 6: like about the thing, Like you know, it's just kind

2066
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 6: of like it's it was embarrassing at the time though

2067
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 6: now it's something that I'm I'm proud I did, but

2068
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 6: at the time it was like, man, I can't let

2069
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 6: him know that I'm I'm one hundred and fifty five pounds.

2070
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 6: I can't be journaling, dude. I got dudes to knock

2071
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 6: over in pee wee football. Man. I was in fourth grade,

2072
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 6: away one forty five. You know, I couldn't be.

2073
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 2: A little sassy guy.

2074
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 6: Man. I had to go you know, making words rhyme dude. Yeah, Man,

2075
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 6: the time for that, that's weak. But it was always

2076
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 6: in us and music was always in read and that's

2077
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 6: why I didn't have any trouble with going, Hey, dude,

2078
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 6: you got to come check this out. Man, It's been

2079
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 6: in you since birth. You've been singing like a bird

2080
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 6: since you were seven.

2081
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't.

2082
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 7: I didn't write much when I was little, but I

2083
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 7: sang constantly.

2084
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 2: In church everywhere, which is one which which church.

2085
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 6: Hasn't changed. I mean you said it earlier. It's like

2086
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 6: melody is more of your things that's to wear. There

2087
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 6: is more minded. It never really changed, it just kind

2088
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 6: of matured. So his strength is that I feel like

2089
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 6: my stream, I'm not. We do this all the time. Yeah, yeah,

2090
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 6: eventually after ten years you kind of learn things to take.

2091
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 6: You want it spicy, you want it sweet, you want

2092
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 6: it mild. I mean there's you know, and there's different

2093
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,799
Speaker 6: chilis for different people. And sometimes you want it spicy,

2094
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 6: which is why you might go with a bomb, you know.

2095
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 6: Sometimes you want it smooth, which you might go sometimes

2096
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 6: you just want it sweet to feel good. So that

2097
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 6: has a different feeling, you know. It's like there's there's

2098
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 6: so many.

2099
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 2: Different figures at a chili bar right now.

2100
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, different riders are different spices, and they

2101
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 6: bring different tastes, if you will, to the music. And

2102
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 6: the business knows that the business knows, and that's why

2103
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 6: you have multiple companies pairing different people with with with

2104
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 6: different people, because this guy might sound like this and

2105
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 6: this guy sounds like this, but together they taste this

2106
01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 6: great and this guy needs that taste.

2107
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 7: Well, that's why you don't have the same song. The

2108
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 7: same song will be written a lot, but in a

2109
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 7: lot of different ways, you know. And and that's where

2110
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 7: you get that is just the melting pot of of

2111
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,759
Speaker 7: life and lifestyles that you have working in these houses

2112
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 7: on Music Row every day.

2113
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hit me with, hit me with a like

2114
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 2: an episode of God's Country is going to cover what?

2115
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 4: Mhmm it's gonna I mean, do.

2116
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,759
Speaker 6: We have an answer to this? I feel like Jordans

2117
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 6: or Katie should.

2118
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 3: Answer this Hot topics kind of kick it off with

2119
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 3: hot topics.

2120
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 6: We just kind of get on there and talk. I

2121
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 6: don't really know that there's actually.

2122
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 8: A formert no, I mean intro with whatever news depending

2123
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 8: on who's sitting in the seat, kind of going into

2124
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 8: their upbringing their story to Nashville.

2125
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a pretty common theme performer.

2126
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 2: What do you guys call them? The artists artists with

2127
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 2: the writers are artists, So writers and artists, songwriters. Is

2128
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 2: a recording artist. There you some of them. Some of

2129
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 2: the artists are writers too. Don't put me in a spot.

2130
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 7: D We get into a lot of of of backstory

2131
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 7: of and kind of the way the podcast has gone

2132
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 7: so far is is it almost is like the front

2133
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 7: of the front half of it is is kind of

2134
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 7: getting the letting the artists express himself and how he

2135
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 7: grew up and where his passions come from, where where

2136
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 7: they spawned from, why why he loves fishing, why he

2137
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 7: loves hunting, And then that that move to town is

2138
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 7: is kind of been a been a common theme and

2139
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 7: and and and but like and that's what I said,

2140
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 7: Like there's common similarities with these stories coming out of

2141
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 7: your journey, but they're all so different, you know. And

2142
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 7: and then the back half of that podcast usually is

2143
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 7: about their time in town and and how their ten

2144
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 7: year process or their two year process, or the story

2145
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 7: about the best story they've got behind a single, their

2146
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 7: first single, or what it felt like sitting in a

2147
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 7: parking lot here in your song on the radio for

2148
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 7: the first time and crying your eyes out and then

2149
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 7: calling everybody in your phone, you know, to to congratulate

2150
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 7: you or whatever you know, it's it's it's really like

2151
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 7: it's a backdrop in a in a in a lining,

2152
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 7: the curtain open to see behind the doors of what

2153
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 7: goes on in Nashville on a day to day basis.

2154
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 6: And usually the trouble we've been having not trouble, but

2155
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 6: the thing we've been running into is people get on

2156
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 6: here and all they want to talk about is hunting,

2157
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 6: and we have to.

2158
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 2: Go, Okay, let's move it, so you move to town,

2159
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 2: you know? Anyway? About this book?

2160
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 6: Man, I've been chasing him for three years and he's

2161
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 6: hidden on you know, which makes it a little bit.

2162
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 2: My appetite to talk about writing is I'll talk about

2163
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 2: writing now and then same not not excited about that subject.

2164
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 6: Nope, been doing it a minute. And once you get

2165
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 6: to that point, and I understand people want to know

2166
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,680
Speaker 6: about it, you know, but I even feel like we

2167
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 6: talked about it too long on this podcast already the

2168
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 6: ten year town.

2169
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 5: Wait, you guys, you got to talk about the one

2170
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 5: that got away that segment.

2171
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 6: Didn't you?

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01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 2: Who was?

2173
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 6: Who was?

2174
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 7: You'll have a good that's become a that's become a thing.

2175
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:56,560
Speaker 6: You'll probably explain it too much, but you have a

2176
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 6: good idea.

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01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:58,560
Speaker 4: That's become a thing we do. At the end of

2178
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 4: the podcast, we asked to questions.

2179
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 7: We asked the artists or songwriter whoever we're interviewing, what

2180
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 7: their favorite, what they think their favorite, and we kind

2181
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 7: of we kind of phrase it differently.

2182
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 2: I guess it.

2183
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 7: I just burped on microphone what your favorite country song

2184
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,679
Speaker 7: is or what you think is the best written country song.

2185
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 7: And so we've gotten all across the you know, we've

2186
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 7: gotten and it's not even country songs, is it?

2187
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 4: Or is it country songs?

2188
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 3: We've kept country songs.

2189
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 7: We do that, and then we do yeah, a thing

2190
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 7: called the one that Got Away, and we tell them

2191
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 7: it could be a girl, it could be most of

2192
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 7: them are married or a guy. You know, if it's

2193
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 7: a female that we have on but most of them

2194
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 7: a married. Never to touch that subject, but it's usually

2195
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 7: a deer, a fish, or you know, something like that.

2196
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 6: Uh.

2197
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 7: And that's that's a That's a really cool part because

2198
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 7: we kind of go into it in an unexpected way

2199
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 7: where it kind of catches them off guard and they all,

2200
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 7: you know, tell an.

2201
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 6: Interesting and sometimes it catches them off guard because we

2202
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 6: don't tell them we're going.

2203
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 2: To do it. We're like, oh, by the way, Uh,

2204
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 2: you guys talked about ten year town. Where you at

2205
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 2: on the tenure cycle? What happens in ten years is

2206
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 2: up everything? You mean, it's all done.

2207
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 6: You just buy ground and don't let anybody hunt it.

2208
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh, so that's that's on the ten years at I

2209
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 2: mean for some of us, where are you at on

2210
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 2: the ten year cycle? You gotta be through. But I'm still.

2211
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 7: On the I'm still on the bottom side of ten

2212
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 7: my Yeah it was. I mean I moved sneaking up

2213
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 7: on them.

2214
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm getting there because I moved to town.

2215
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 6: Only a couple of years behind me. Yeah.

2216
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 7: I actually think I'm at nine because I moved to

2217
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 7: town two thousand. Like, got to town doing trying to

2218
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 7: you know, I was moving furniture in the day and

2219
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 7: then writing songs at night, trying to grind and and

2220
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 7: I guess that was twenty fifteen was and then I

2221
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 7: got my first publishing deal in two thousand and six.

2222
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 6: But I'm gonna say something that early season grind is

2223
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 6: what is what deepens that well you're talking about I mean,

2224
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 6: not to talk about how hard we had it or

2225
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 6: how bad we had it, because we we found a

2226
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 6: way to make it work. I died of deer meat

2227
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 6: and crappie ain't too bad, honestly. I mean it is

2228
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 6: when you eat with Delmonti corn six nights a week.

2229
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,639
Speaker 7: But yeah, Tibet, you can also get twelve rolls at

2230
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 7: cracker barrel.

2231
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 6: I don't know if biscuits.

2232
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 7: We used to just just take four dollars, go to

2233
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 7: the cracker barrel. We lived from fourteen biscuits, bring them back,

2234
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 7: jelly them jokers, and eat it. We'd eat deer eating

2235
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 7: biscuit like every morning until we ran.

2236
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 2: We got some sick of those things.

2237
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 6: Man, and uh we I mean you have to have

2238
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 6: the hustle too, Like it's not just moving here and

2239
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 6: waiting ten years and then all of a sudden you

2240
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 6: can have a little Biscus says that you've got to

2241
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 6: be applying major hustle to this thing. My my hustle

2242
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 6: was I worked at a moving company, and then I

2243
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 6: did that for a long time. I had a meeting

2244
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 6: with a guy up here who was in the publishing business.

2245
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:52,520
Speaker 6: I saw softball bats leaning in the corner of his office.

2246
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 6: So on my way out of that office, I said, hey, man,

2247
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 6: where does he play softball at the lady at the

2248
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 6: front told me, I looked into that place. I got

2249
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 6: a job umpiring at those softball fields. So I would

2250
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 6: work in the box truck during the day, I would change.

2251
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 6: I would go in the back of the back box truck,

2252
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 6: changing my umpire and outfit go work an umpire gig

2253
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 6: until about eleven and one night I was I had

2254
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 6: worked there and I ran into him. He was like,

2255
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 6: what are you doing out here? What are you talking about? Man,

2256
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 6: I'm hustling, dude, I'm trying to pay my bills. And

2257
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 6: he was like, but don't you work, but you told

2258
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 6: me you worked on a box truck. I was like, yeah,

2259
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 6: I work on a box truck in my umpire. He

2260
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 6: was like, man, if somebody's hustling that hard, I got

2261
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 6: time for him, come see me. Went so on really

2262
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 6: went and sawing cutting it. He said, I need five

2263
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 6: demos of these songs. I borrowed five hundred dollars for

2264
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 6: my sister and seven fifty for my granddad RP Days

2265
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 6: pudd You know what I'm saying, appreciation less appreciation, And

2266
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 6: I went and cut demos with my band. I took

2267
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 6: him to him, he held him nine months. And in

2268
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,759
Speaker 6: those nine months, I had my phone on a charger.

2269
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 6: Every single day I would look. I was constantly the

2270
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 6: anxiety that was living in my gut. Knowing he had

2271
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,879
Speaker 6: those fine songs and we're about to make a decision

2272
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 6: on him was like, I mean, like having coals. I mean,

2273
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,640
Speaker 6: I was just my stomach. I was in nots for

2274
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 6: nine months. He finally calls back. It's like, hey man,

2275
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 6: we're ready to talk to you about a deal after

2276
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 6: nine months. And that is how every day that that happens,

2277
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 6: will that well, it's just going deeper and deeper and deeper.

2278
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 6: And now when somebody comes to town and they go,

2279
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 6: hey man, I'm just in a rough spot man, Like

2280
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 6: I want this music stuff to work, but I got

2281
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:25,799
Speaker 6: stuff I want to do at home, and I'm missing

2282
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 6: Deer season because I'm out here grinding playing to thirty

2283
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 6: people that don't care about my music. I can go,

2284
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 6: I know exactly what you're talking about. How about this idea?

2285
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 6: Does this hit?

2286
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 2: You?

2287
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely? Tell me some stuff about what you're doing, and

2288
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 6: then we find a way to construct something marketable out

2289
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 6: of what out of slash person slash personal. And that's

2290
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 6: what I think people get the misconception about us as

2291
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 6: commercial writers. They think we're just up here faking everything.

2292
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 6: It's not that. It's finding a way to make your

2293
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,719
Speaker 6: story relatable to a common listener, as well as making

2294
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 6: it wrong.

2295
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 2: But you're selling your struggles to other people, man, which

2296
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 2: has got to hurt down.

2297
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 6: Then at the beginning, a little what's the check comes

2298
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:12,600
Speaker 6: in doesn't hurt that.

2299
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of pride when uh, just a

2300
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,600
Speaker 2: final thought, when you're talking about the going to the

2301
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 2: cracker breath, get the biscuits. When when I enrolled at

2302
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: Lakespeare State University, in your little enrollment packet was this

2303
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 2: fifty percent off at Taco Bell. Oh baby. So we called.

2304
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,719
Speaker 2: I was my brother Danny, and we called over there

2305
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 2: and uh, We're like, hey, is there a is that

2306
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 2: a limit? We all know? And I said, can you?

2307
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,719
Speaker 2: And so we ordered fifty soft tacos and fifty bean britles.

2308
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 2: We said, just don't put any lettuce in there, and

2309
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:45,799
Speaker 2: I said, you come by and pick them up tomorrow.

2310
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,839
Speaker 2: So we went down there, put them in a freezer.

2311
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 2: We would be going hunting in the morning or whatever.

2312
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 2: We'd always take those out of the freezer and set

2313
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: them up in the turn the heater on. Oh yeah,

2314
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 2: man on the windshield and Layman, that little cracking too.

2315
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 6: Bad honestly them.

2316
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really too bad. Yeah, I'm so far

2317
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,639
Speaker 2: from that now, But you're right, stuff madters Man.

2318
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, we we. I think I think it's endless. I

2319
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 6: think there. I don't think it'll ever run dry, just

2320
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 6: based upon yeah, the work we put it to get

2321
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 6: to this place, you know.

2322
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and not saying that we live, but the life

2323
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 4: we live man.

2324
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 7: You know, I think that will continues to grow deeper

2325
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:32,799
Speaker 7: because we're having kids and and and we're we're teaching

2326
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 7: our kids how to hunt and thinking about the days

2327
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:38,720
Speaker 7: and of getting to you know, bring them on our

2328
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 7: land that we don't take anybody on and letting them

2329
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 7: shoot deer and.

2330
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 2: They'll they'll maybe get a lease or something.

2331
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 8: If a big buck is on camera and Ben's old

2332
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 8: enough to hunt, we've already touched.

2333
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 6: He's gonna, I mean. And that's part of the reason

2334
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 6: I locked it up was for my kids.

2335
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 2: To be able to do that for sure. All right,

2336
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, Really not a bad guy.

2337
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 6: I'm not a bad guy.

2338
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 2: Great guys, great guys, for real, great guys, uh Dan

2339
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 2: and reed Is both join them and continue the exploration

2340
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 2: of of country music and the outdoors and songwriting and

2341
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 2: performing at God's Country Podcast, available now. And you guys

2342
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:25,799
Speaker 2: know that that this year we're only using for our outro.

2343
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 2: We used to license outro music. We don't need more.

2344
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 2: We quit. It seems like, oh, it's interesting say that.

2345
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 7: It's almost like somebody put got a outro.

2346
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 6: It's almost like somebody amount of planned for this.

2347
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 2: You got an outro since we can't we're not licensing

2348
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 2: any music anymore.

2349
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's almost like, you know, you, what did you write?

2350
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,719
Speaker 6: What did you say in the email that the song.

2351
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:56,520
Speaker 2: A song called big huge Giant Bugs.

2352
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 6: We do that. I took it as like a all right.

2353
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 6: I took it as a challenge actually when you rout it,

2354
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 6: because I feel like that was a bit sarcastic. You

2355
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:24,640
Speaker 6: know what was big huge show bucks. No, like, this.

2356
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 2: Is for you, Steve, you gotta do it.

2357
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,639
Speaker 11: We get up in the morning at the crack dog,

2358
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 11: grab our gun, put our first slide on stownble to

2359
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 11: the stand waiting in the coat watching.

2360
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 4: That song rise, like, ain't no way we can love

2361
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 4: it anymore. We do it because we got it.

2362
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 11: We do it all for the huge chain bus town

2363
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 11: gates down on the back of the trucks riding through town,

2364
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 11: like we don't give away with a big, huge giant.

2365
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 2: In buck Well.

2366
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 11: Them folks Southwest love the chase, big el hitting New

2367
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 11: Maddam's a giving on hell, But what does for us?

2368
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 4: Saint Anne Low? Is it big corn sheep from Moose?

2369
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 1: Hell?

2370
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 11: No, it's big huge chine bus tailgate down on the

2371
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 11: back of our trucks riding through town, like we don't.

2372
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 4: Give away with a big, huge giant in buss.

2373
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 11: I said, it's big huge giant bush tailgates down on

2374
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 11: the back of our truck right through town, like we

2375
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 11: don't give away provice with our big huge giant in bun.

2376
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

2377
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 6: On the way end, big deal brought on.

2378
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 2: I knew it had to have. It needed a song.

2379
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 2: I haven't said.

2380
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 6: It is so long.

2381
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 2: There it is bro big huge giant box.

2382
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 6: There you go there, take it, learn it big.

2383
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 2: Not just huge giant, big huge giant box. All right,

2384
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 2: Everybody God's Country Podcast, Thanks for listening.

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