1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Here we go, the official show on the Fish Stripes 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: podcast channel. I'm Eli Susman, the managing editor of Fish Stripes, 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: where we cover the Miami Marlins every day in our 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: own way. This show presented by our partners at Symbol 5 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the stock Market for Sports, coming off a week where 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: we dedicated this podcast feed and this time slot to 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: the minor league side earning their stripes. Those two episodes 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: two interviews are still up there on our pod feed 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: wherever you subscribe to us. Be sure to check them 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: out if you haven't already, rate and review the pod 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts. If you haven't already, thank you in advance. 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: A brief note about this current episode where I was 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: delayed by a few minutes because I was locked in 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: to the game in progress from the high a bloit 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Snappers started by Antonio Vallees with Evan Brabands coming in 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: in relief, and together they entered the ninth ending with 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: a perfect game intact. It was just two outs away 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: from getting to the mountaintop, and then Quad Cities prospect 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: John Rave singled against Braband to break it up on 20 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: the other side of the equation for them. Shout out 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: to Troy Johnston the slugging first baseman outfielder who is. 22 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: He scored the first run of this game. He incited 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: a rally in the bottom of the eighth that really 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: allowed them to pour it on. He's now hitting three 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: fifty one for the minor league season. It's his first 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: full minor league season. He was a seventeenth round draft 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: pick of the Marlins back in twenty nineteen, and there's 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: really no other way to slice it that he is 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: the front runner for Marlin's Minor League Player of the 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Year honors to this point, nearly two months into the 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: minor league season. Not quite at the halfway mark halfway Marquette, 32 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: but nobody can really keep pace with this guy, either 33 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: in the Marlins organization or really There's very few guys 34 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: across the entire minor leagues who are hitting as consistently 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: as he is, especially in run producing situations. He has 36 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: been healthy, fingers crossed that it stays that way. Enormously impressive, 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: So shout out to Troy Johnson. I'm sure he'll be 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: hearing more about him as this summer progresses. Switching back 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: to the major league side, I was thinking of focusing 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: this episode on Sandy al contra kind of an appreciation 41 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: pod about Sandy. Now, great, he's been entering his start 42 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday, a matchup with Max Scherzer, got a lot 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: of eyeballs on him, and based on how he's been 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: pitching throughout most of the month of June, this was 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: a big case opportunity for him to kind of jump 46 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: back into the All Star Game conversation, which is still 47 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: about a week and a half until they finally make 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: those decisions about the pitchers that will be involved on 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: the All Star team instead. As you know, he he 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: looks kind of shaky from the jump. Remarkably held the 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Nationals to just one run through the first five innings, 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: and then things really blew up in his face in 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: the sixth inning. Digging a little deeper into that performance 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: and then also putting into perspective how he'd been using 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: his pitches the previous couple times out, I made a 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: switch and we'll be talking about Sandy, but we'll also 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: be talking about two other Marlins pitchers, So three pitchers 58 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: overall on this team that I feel have been most 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: significantly impacted by this week in baseball, where the substances 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: checks have been put into play, where Major League Baseball 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: umpires every single game checking these pictures for what they 62 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: consider bands substances, and no Marlins have been caught, but 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: I feel there have been some ripple effects that are 64 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: worth diving into a little bit. First, some takeaways from 65 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: the last three games overall Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So the Marlins, 66 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: after losing this series opener on Thursday to the Nats, 67 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: they take two out of three the weekend to split 68 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the four game set, and they now stand at thirty 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: three and forty four overall. As somebody brought to my 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: attention on Twitter, skeptic fish fan, thank you for this. 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Marlins are on pace for sixty nine wins for this 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: season despite their positive run differential individuals who stood out 73 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: from this weekend. You need to start with Zach Thompson. 74 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: He bitched on Saturday, got the win career highs across 75 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: the board for him, where he wasn't even fully stretched 76 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: out as a starter a few weeks ago when the 77 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Marlins called him up in Boston. This was his fourth 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: straight game against a pretty tough lineup on paper. He 79 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: faced Boston, He's faced the Cubs, He's faced the Braves, 80 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: and now here facing the Nationals, who had been one 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: of the hottest offenses in baseball in a couple of 82 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: weeks leading up to this matchup. Thompson goes six terrific endings. 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: He strikes out eleven, something that no Marlins pitcher had 84 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: done since twenty nineteen. And that's saying a lot, because 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: we know how much talent this Marlins rotation has had 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: the past couple of seasons. Even the two runs that 87 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: he allowed both technically earned but on shaky defensive plays 88 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: in the outfield, plays that probably should have been made 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: better by Hayeshu Sanchez and also won by Starling Marte 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Marion Marte in a few moments that contributed to the runs. 91 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: Even when including that, just a great outing from him. 92 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: One, two and he gets shot of the swinging a 93 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: miss is a little bit more and it's all good. 94 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: He did it again to Bell same way, two balls, 95 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: two strikes, and as swinging a miss, sack tops an 96 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: eleven strikeouts, a season high for the Marlins this year. 97 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: What a day, the sack attack. 98 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: What stood up most of this is curveball. Prior to this, 99 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: I mean, his most successful pitch had been the cutter, 100 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: which he had shown in ability to really locate well 101 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: and get some late break on swings and misses. And 102 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: he complimented that in this adding with that curveball responsible 103 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: for seven of those eleven strikeouts, so consistently keeping it 104 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: at the knees or below, and that we're two different 105 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: ways ways, and that he was able to steal a 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: lot of strikes in both early in the count and 107 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: also went back to it in two strike situations to 108 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: get strikeouts, looking that he was consistently at the knees 109 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: or below the knees, where of course you can get 110 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: chases below the zone provided that you're ahead in the 111 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: count in the first place. A remarkable job from him, 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: still so humble, still so low profile, because he was 113 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: a minor league signing this offseason, someone who did not 114 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: pitch particularly well in Triple A before his call up, 115 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: and even then he was not a high priority for 116 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: their Triple A affiliate. Gets forced into action, of course, 117 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: by all the injuries on the Marlins rotation and some 118 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: underperformance by the guys with more prospect pedigree. He has 119 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: seized this opportunity. Now has a two point zero zero 120 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: era only allowing one base runner per Enning to this point, 121 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: and now he's shown. Was so critical about this game 122 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: is the length that he showed that he got stretched 123 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: out to like ninety one pitches they started going a 124 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: third time through the order. That's he is making himself. 125 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: We already focused on Thompson quite a bit on I 126 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: guess one of the pods a week and a half 127 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: ago or two weeks ago, that he's going to be 128 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: a very important piece to this team the rest of 129 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: the season. We'll out to see if they have something 130 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: legit in Thompson and the fact that he could have 131 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: his curve ball working like this, We already recognized starter 132 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: start after start that his cutter is a legitimate major 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: league quality pitch, if not in above average pitch, at 134 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: least an average major league pitch. And now this next 135 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: wrinkle on top of that very impressive by Thompson, Hayesius Sanchez, 136 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: we now get a longer look at him. Credit to 137 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Don Mattingly playing Sanchez almost every single day since his 138 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: call up and starting him in left field, which is 139 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: not his most comfortable defensive positions, where we have seen 140 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: a couple odd plays from him out there that will 141 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: take some time to adjust to. He's more or less 142 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: the guy that I thought he would be. I mean, 143 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: I just kind of blurted out some statistical projections for 144 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: him when they called him up a couple of weeks ago, 145 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: thinking that he'd be relatively low on base guy, a 146 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: slightly above average power guy. That's kind of what's pling 147 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: out where he has his ops just a shade under 148 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred, a little bit under league average to this point, 149 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: but a couple very impressive home runs, really one home 150 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: run that was one of the longest we've seen by 151 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: any Marlins player this season. Also has a lot of 152 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: really hard hit balls in addition to the ones that 153 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: actually go over the wall itself. He does chase a 154 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: lot out of the zone, not as much discipline as 155 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: you'd like to see, and that's going to be really 156 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: the biggest thing for him moving forward is his approach 157 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: and whether he's able to realize how he's being pitched 158 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: to take the walks when the walks are there for him. 159 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: He did draw one walk on Sunday. The overall numbers 160 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: are meh, but the call up with him was never 161 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: about the immediacy anyway. It was always about getting his 162 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: feet wet. Watching him on an everyday basis against lefties 163 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: against righty's, against cy young caliber pitchers against scrubs, and 164 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: see how he handles all these different situations so that 165 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: you can better approach how to fill this outfield in 166 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two or beyond. You need to figure out 167 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: whether he is going to be part of that or not, 168 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: as he is running out of minor league options despite 169 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: his relatively young age. So overall kind of what we 170 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: expected of him, which is kind of a step up 171 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: from a lot of these other hitting prospects we've come 172 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: up the past couple of years. Right for the most part, 173 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: those guys have fallen short of expectations, not been the 174 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: guys that we wanted them to be. And Sanchez at 175 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: least looks like he belongs, even though not showing himself 176 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: to be a star to this point. Somebody that will, 177 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: just like Thompson, someone to closely monitor the rest of 178 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: this season, and on the downside, startling Marte. Over his 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: last fifteen As of this recording, it's the first time 180 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: since like the second day of the season that he 181 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: finished a game with his batting average below the three 182 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: hundred mark. Gasp. We've talked about Marte of course a 183 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: ton here on fish drives, especially throughout like the last month, 184 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: and about the prospect of extending his contract bring him 185 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: back for years to come. This slump is, I guess, 186 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: is worst of the year to this point, although you 187 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: still look at his overall numbers and he has a 188 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: one forty eight weighted runs created plus forty eight percent 189 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: better than the league average, absolutely outstanding. He's still having 190 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: an all star caliber season if only he'd been healthy 191 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: throughout this entire first half of the year. I don't 192 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: think we were ever under the delusion that he would 193 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: you keep up being the best hitter in the league 194 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: for the entire season. In fact, I would expect that 195 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: WRC plus to dip a little bit more before we 196 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: get to the end of the year, and there's no 197 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: reason to panic about that. He just has a long 198 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: track record of being a very good hitter and not 199 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: a superstar yet that would still be such a critical 200 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: piece of the Marlins long term something to monitor because 201 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: it's still that's only like a four game sample of 202 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: that mini slump that he's currently in, and even during 203 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: that time he's been drawing his walks. That's what I've 204 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: emphasized is the really exciting aspect of Marte season. 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For the 230 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: rest of the show, we turn our attention to Major 231 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: League Baseball's sticky stuff situation. We've had now one full 232 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: week of enforcement about the sticky stuff pictures allowed to 233 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: use rosin as they always have been, but presumably nothing else. 234 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: That's the plan from Baseball as communicated to the players 235 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: themselves a couple of weeks ago. It's been a fascinating 236 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: storyline to follow because, frankly, a lot of us weren't 237 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: thinking about this even a couple months ago, of the 238 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: impact that's sticky stuff was having on the game that 239 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: we've been watching, in the style of play that baseball 240 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: has had through almost the entire week, we made it 241 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: through six hundred something individual pitchers across the thirty teams 242 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: that were getting checked, you know, at least once an outing, 243 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: starters actually getting checked twice an outing, or in the 244 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: case of Max Scherzer in that very famous clip against 245 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: the Phillies. He was checked three times during his start. 246 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: They checked the first six hundred something pitchers and everybody 247 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: came back clean. Everybody passed the tests that the umpires conducted, 248 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: and finally, on Sunday afternoon, left hander Hector Santiago of 249 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners gets busted. He gets his glove confiscated, 250 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: he gets ejected from the game for the Mariners, and 251 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: I think the expectation is that he will be suspended. 252 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: I guess, following up on an analysis of what was 253 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: on his glove that the umpire didn't like. He spoke 254 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: to the media afterwards and his alibi was that he 255 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: was only using rozin, that he wasn't doing a thing unusual, 256 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: but that he put the rosin. This is quoting him 257 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: what they told me. It was, you can't use rosin 258 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: on the glove hand. When I used rosin idab on 259 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: both sides, the umpire said you couldn't use it on 260 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: the glove hands, and that's why he got in trouble 261 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: for it. So wait to see whether or not he 262 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: actually gets punched for it. He is the first guy 263 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: as of this recording to get busted for it, and 264 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: even though this has been going on in every single 265 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: Major League game, I always refer to Enosaurus now the 266 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: athletic when it comes to spin rik topics. He's been 267 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: on this for years. He's been ahead of this the 268 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: impact that it could have on baseball, and so I'll 269 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: be referencing him in just a few moments. As we 270 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: turned to the Marlins. Marlins haven't had anybody busted yet, 271 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: and even entering this week, I think there was cautious 272 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: optimism that they wouldn't really be impacted by it. You 273 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: get nervous because the Marlins are, as Kim Ang even 274 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: admits herself, they are a pitching first organization. They have 275 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: been throughout every stage of this rebuild. It's been a 276 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: legitimate strength, especially this year. We've reached a point year 277 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one where it's not just a decent 278 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: pitching staff, but it is one of the better pitching 279 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: staffs in baseball anyway. Slice it. I know people are 280 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: frustrated by how the bullpen has done in some close games, 281 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: so maybe they're not quite as good as the er 282 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: would suggest. But the starting pitching and of course all 283 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: the focus on the top of their rotation being Sandy 284 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: al Contra, Pablo Lopez, and Trevor Rodgers. They've been fantastic. 285 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Anytime that Baseball is going to make a change the 286 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: way that pitchers are allowed to pitch, it would make 287 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: you nervous, kind of understandably about how that would go, 288 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of impact it would have on these guys and 289 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: whether it would change their effectiveness. Maybe they're not quite 290 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: the same players we thought they were because of how 291 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: this widespread use of banned substances, some of them as 292 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: innocuous as sunscreen, others as a really performance enhancing as 293 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: spider tack can be when applied in copious amounts. We 294 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: made it through the first week. Didn't seem that Marlin's 295 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: pitchers really any issues with the enforcement. There weren't aside 296 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: from the standard awkwardness of being quote inspected while you're 297 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: on the field in front of everybody, wasn't really any 298 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: drama around any of the checks that were performed during 299 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: their games. There were three particular pictures that that did 300 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: stand out to me how they did this week and 301 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: potentially drawing some correlations between the changes and the rules 302 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: and the way that they performed this one was actually 303 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: going back all the way to Thursday, Cody Pote, who 304 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: was a nice story his first few starts in the 305 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: majors in some ways kind of almost an unprecedented start 306 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: for a Marvelin's picture that was called up, especially someone 307 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: like him who had been a farm hand for like 308 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: five six years and just did not draw a whole 309 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: lot of attention. We didn't think he was good enough, 310 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: that his stuff was interesting enough to play in the 311 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: major leagues, and to our surprise, it did. He got 312 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: that minor injury. He came back from the minor injury. 313 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: All things considered, it looked all right. In his first 314 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: start back, there was natural rustiness, and then in this 315 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: outing against the Nationals on Thursday, he was terrible. Definitely 316 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: his worst outing as a major leaguer only makes it 317 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: through three innings. And what stood out about him was 318 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: his spin rate. I mean, that's the main thing that 319 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: gets impacted when you're not using any sort of sticky 320 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: stuff on your fingers, is that, depending on how you 321 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: apply it, you don't get as much spin rate as 322 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: is measured by stat Cast and as is available to 323 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: us publicly on Baseball Savant. That's a great tool to use, 324 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: and when it doesn't have the same spin rate, it 325 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have the same movement, so hitters are have a 326 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: better chance of making contact against you and making firm 327 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: contact against you with poteat. I mean, almost everything went wrong, 328 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: not just hit hard, but he was just struggling to 329 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: throw strikes to begin with. With all of his pitches. 330 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: He used his full complements of pitches, and every single 331 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: pitch was down really noticeably in terms of spin rate, 332 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: all of them, ranging from like one hundred and fifty 333 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: revolutions permitted to like two eighty compared to just his 334 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: previous start. They were down compared to his season averages, 335 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: but what was really star contrast is that it was 336 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: down compared to what they had been just a few 337 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: days ago in his first start off the injured list. 338 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: That first start, keep in mind that was on June eighteenth, 339 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: and these new rules went into effect officially on the 340 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: field on June twenty first, a few days later. This 341 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: is his first outing since he was actually being inspected 342 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: on the field. He did not perform like his usual self, 343 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: and we have to wonder whether he prepared for the 344 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: start differently, knowing that because he was unable to do 345 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: some of the things he was accustomed to doing so 346 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: far as a major leaguer. Once, I wanted to dive 347 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: into a little bit more because wait to see on Potid. 348 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: He's still in the rotation for now, we'll have a 349 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: chance to avenge himself. The two really the biggest stars 350 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: on the Marlins pitching staff this year had been Anthony 351 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: Bender and Sandy al Contra. And you know how much 352 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: I adore bender Man to this point, still a nearly 353 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: flawless year, a couple inherited runners that he let score 354 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: early on this year, a couple of unearned runs as well. 355 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: But he enters this new week nearly two months into 356 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: his major league career with a zero point zero zero 357 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: earned run average. It is tied for the fifth longest 358 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: unearned runness streak sloppy you know, zero era streak of 359 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: all time to begin somebody's career. He's been you know 360 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: who he is. He's a two pitch guy for the 361 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: most part, with a sinker and a slider. Occasionally uses 362 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: a four seamer to end this. To this point, he 363 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: just piles up the strikeouts, he piles up the ground balls, 364 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: and he really attacks his own It's been such a 365 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: feel good story for someone that was really off the grid, 366 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: and it's just been great to see him emerge like 367 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: this as someone that could potentially be part of his 368 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: Marlins bullpen for years to come. But he made two 369 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: appearances this week with these new rules into effect, he 370 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: as usually got the job done. He pitched two scoreless 371 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: endings one each of those outings he pitched on back 372 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: to back days and got score less endings in both 373 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: of them, including the second one on Saturday, was a 374 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: really high leverage situation, getting the seventh ending with just 375 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: a one run lead. As Don Mattingly kind of admitted 376 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: post game, he preferred Bender over Anthony Bass in that situation. 377 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what took so long. I've been kind 378 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: of nudging maddeningly in that direction for a while to 379 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: make Bender like the true bona fide set up man 380 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: and consistently get these opportunities better late than ever, Bender 381 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: got that opportunity and pitched a scoreless ending to help 382 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: preserve the win. What stood out from those two outings 383 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: were his spin rates. As we noticed on Baseball savon 384 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: It's All out There that his slider in particular had 385 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: its lowest spin rate of the entire season. He's been 386 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: well above the major league average in that category prior 387 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: to this week, and now that that stuff came down. 388 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Based on his season average, almost two hundred revolutions per minute, 389 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: and it was about the same in both of these outings, 390 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: lower than it had ever been in any of his 391 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: games previously up in the majors. His velocity was still fine, 392 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: and as I said, his bottom line results were fine. 393 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: He didn't allow any runs, but he also didn't get 394 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: any strikeouts. That was seven total batters that he faced 395 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: on his appearances Friday and Saturday, zero strikeouts. It's such 396 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: a small sample, but when you look at the rest 397 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: of the season that he's had, he has never had 398 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: a stretch like that. He hasn't had a stretch where 399 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: he faces seven batters and doesn't get a strikeout. That's 400 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: the kind of ridiculous standard that he has set for 401 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: himself so far in his nearly perfect rookie year. Going 402 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: back to Enosaurus, he's someone that has said on the 403 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Athletic Quote, the effect of spin on strikeout rate for 404 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: at bats ending with a four seam and a slider 405 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: are severely affected by how much spin is on the ball, 406 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: lowest spin that he's had on a slider all year, 407 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: zero strikeouts, and back to back outings, which had not 408 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: been the case at all for him at any other 409 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: point of this. I don't know. Maybe it's more than 410 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: a coincidence with Bender that it played out like that. 411 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: He'll be a key guy to follow. He did get 412 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: the results that he was looking for with those pitches. 413 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: The velocity is still great, and I mean one of 414 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: the bigger factors, almost as important as his stuff, is 415 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: his commands and his ability to throw strikes. He's been 416 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: throwing a ton of strikes his entire year, so if 417 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: that keeps up, he's going to have a chance to 418 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: still be great. For most of this segment, we want 419 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: to focus on Sandy because Sandy is the one who, 420 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: with all due respect to Bender, Sandy is the one 421 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: that is one of the faces of this organization already, 422 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: the one that is arbitration eligible next year, the one 423 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: that is having a terrific season, even including this latest 424 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: outing on Sunday, and someone that they have to make 425 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: a very interesting decision about, probably within the next like 426 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: year and a half, in terms of whether or not 427 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: he's part of their long term future. Is he a 428 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: guy that they want to consider for a contract extension 429 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: before those arbitration years kick in. Do they want to 430 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: extend their his year of control through his prime and 431 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: consider him the ace of their team through most of 432 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: this decade? You know that opportunity is on the table. 433 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: That's an idea that has come up a lot these 434 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: the first few months of the season he's having. He 435 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: was an All Star in twenty nineteen, but I think 436 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: by every measure, he's pitching better this year than ever. 437 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: He is at the top of his game. He has 438 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: the most endings pitched in Major League Baseball this year. 439 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: And I mean, of all the things with Sandy, the 440 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: one that does stick out the most is his durability. So, 441 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: no matter what is going on with these sticky substance enforcement, 442 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: as long as his mechanics stay the same, as long 443 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: as his work ethics stays the same and he's durable, 444 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: he's going to be enormously valuable to the team. So 445 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: I'll put that out front. That being said, something's stuck 446 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: out to me about this most recent outing. You could 447 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: tell from the jump that he just was not particularly sharp. 448 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: His fastball velocity was down a little bit as were 449 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: as other pitches. He did say after the game that 450 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: he was feeling a little bit under the weather in 451 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: this game and yet made his scheduled start. Anyway, I 452 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: think that checks out that that's really the easiest thing 453 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: you could point to in terms of his lack of 454 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: velocity and his lack of commands that he was constantly 455 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: missing over the middle of the plate in this one. 456 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: He paid for it early on. You could see he 457 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: was getting in trouble, and I mean it really impressed 458 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: me that he made it through five pretty efficient endings 459 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: with the stuff that he had, which was not very good. 460 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: It was arguably his worst pure stuff of the season, 461 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: even worse than that Dodgers game. In my opinion, that 462 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: his stuff just was not there was not fooling anybody. 463 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: When I dug through his pitch usage from this game, 464 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: what sticks out is that he barely used his four 465 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: seam fastball. He's a guy that is most notable for 466 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: his sinker, and I guess here in twenty twenty one, 467 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: what stands out about him reaching his bringing his game 468 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: to a higher level is his change up, which is 469 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he throws it harder than ever 470 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: and it's getting more break than ever. Plays really well 471 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: off of his fastball, but his four seemer is a 472 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: consistent part of his pitch mix as well. He alternates 473 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: between the sinker and the four seam, uses them in 474 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: different parts of the zone. They serve different purposes because 475 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: of the movement that they get, even though the velocity 476 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: on those pitches are pretty similar in the high nineties, 477 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: he only threw seven four seam fastballs in this game 478 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: out of what eighty something total pitches. Let's see what 479 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: the number was, ninety total pitches, only seven fastballs, And 480 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: I was surprised to notice I had not noticed this 481 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: before that. Also, his previous two starts he has even 482 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: used his fastballs four seamer even less than that. So 483 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: seven four seemers used on Sunday's most recent start. The 484 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: start before that, he threw only one during that complete 485 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: game effort? Was that a complete game effort that he 486 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: just had? So he had the complete game effort two 487 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: starts ago he had the eight strong endings against Toronto 488 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: one start to go. The pitcher who has been the 489 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: last couple of years, he's shifted more towards that sinker 490 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: instead of the four seamer. But yet He's never had 491 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: a stretch like this is the bottom line, three straight 492 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: starts where he threw just single digit numbers of his 493 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: forcing fastball. And the key here is the dates. So 494 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: his last three starts. Those dates are June sixteenth, June 495 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: twenty second, and June twenty seventh. This timeline is important 496 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: because the players reportedly were notified about the MLB memo 497 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: went out to the Players Association on June thirteenth about 498 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: the specifics of this crackdown on banned substances, and then 499 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: it was publicly announced to everybody on June fifteenth, one 500 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: day later. Sandy starts on June sixteenth. He has a 501 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: great outing against the Cardinals. But in that great outing 502 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: he barely uses that forcing fastball, only use it three 503 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: times in a complete game. He only threw three fource emers, 504 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: only one in the start after that, his most recent 505 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: start only seven. So I have a theory. I don't 506 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: know exactly what Sandy was using. I did notice that 507 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: his spin rate, especially these last two starts, on that pitch, 508 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: it's noticeably lower. He'll have to make a very interesting adjustment. 509 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: And so this is nothing new for Sandy. I mean, 510 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: Sandy's a sent to being what he is right now, 511 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: as you know, a borderline All Star, as being the 512 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: most durable pitcher in the league and one of the 513 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: more consistent ones this most recent start, notwithstanding, he's shown 514 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: the ability to make adjustments, which means that I don't 515 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: think any one like condition like this about using nothing 516 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: on your fingers moving forward. I don't think that will 517 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: derail his career. This is nothing too dramatic to think about, 518 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: but it could be the cue for him to make 519 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: this adjustment where he's already you know, you wonder why 520 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: he has stopped using that forcing fastball almost entirely going 521 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: and said with his sinker, and he's been successful that 522 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: way a couple starts in a row prior to this 523 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: most recent one. But it is a noticeable piece of 524 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: his pitch mix that is no longer there by his 525 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: own choice is a pitch he's been using about twenty 526 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: percent of the time through the middle of and now 527 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: he's barely using it at all. So that will great 528 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: an interesting adjustments. I'm sure his opponents will pick up 529 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: on that, know that they don't have to they can 530 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: cheat a little bit on his other pitches. Knowing that 531 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: the four seamer is very rarely being used, and instead 532 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: it makes him, you know more, They can anticipate the 533 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: sinker's movement and his secondary pitches. It's a fascinating adjustment 534 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: period for Sandy. Maybe it's nothing. I'm not saying anything 535 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: definitive other than that the timing of this, of this 536 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: transition into being a full on sinker guy is the 537 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: timing of it is very particular and coincide's very interesting 538 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: with this news around baseball about the crackdown in sticky stuff. 539 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: This was just one week into the adventure. Now that 540 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: they caught a guy, that's the key. They caught a 541 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: guy in Hector Santiago of the Mariners. I was speculating 542 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: on Marlon's barbecue last week. Listen to that if you 543 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: haven't already that if they didn't catch anybody in baseball 544 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: for a few weeks or even through the first month 545 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: of the program, then and it would make the league 546 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: look pretty bad. It'd make them potentially consider ditching the 547 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: inspections altogether. If they weren't catching anybody, that something was 548 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: going wrong. Now that somebody did get caught, I mean, 549 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: that's really kind of all you need to justify continuing 550 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: to do this indefinitely. Around baseball. There's just so much 551 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: at stake with Sandy because of what he's already accomplished 552 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: in his young career, what he means this organization, how 553 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 1: much that they would have to potentially invest in him 554 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: if they did want to extend his team control beyond 555 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: what they currently have. They'll have to be watching him 556 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: very closely how he adjusts the rest of the season. 557 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: He's made these adjustments before, so I'm not too concerned 558 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: about it. But I just wanted to draw that to 559 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: your attention because I myself had barely noticed this trends 560 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: in the past few games about him deviating away, like 561 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: going away from his four seamier usage. But it does 562 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: make him a slightly different pitcher, and I am curious 563 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: to see where he goes from here. This has been 564 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: Eli Susk with the official Show. Thank you very much 565 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: for listening. A couple programming notes. We're winding down another 566 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: month of the Fish Picks Contest our prop bets contest 567 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: that's open for every Marlins game you can play every 568 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: single day. 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