1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we are 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: joined by our friend Miranda Devine. She has books like 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: Laptop from How and the Big Guy. Got a great 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: piece at the New York Post as well, where she's 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: a columnist on the secret service situation with the Bidens. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: The Irs whistleblowers, so much more to talk about, Miranda, 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: Let's start with this. 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: The Irs whistleblowers who are the ones investigating Hunter Biden. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: And you were all over that story, as we know, 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: and this audience will remember you from that. They were 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: initially ostracized. They have gotten quite a promotion under Trump. 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Tell us what's going on here? 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 4: Hi, claim, but this is absolutely fantastic news, and really, 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 4: I think the first vindication that we've seen in the 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: Trump administration of these valiant whistle blowers. They were a 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 4: number of them who's stuck their head up above the 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: parapet to warn the American people about various malfeasances under 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 4: Joe Biden. And these two guys are IRS investigators, Gary 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: Shapley and Joe Ziegler. They were the ones who kaibo 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 4: washed the Hunter Biden sweetheart deal on his tax crimes 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: and that was two years since they've been ostracized and 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: retaliated against by their superiors in the IRS, and so 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: Scott Bessant, the Treasury Secretary, has just jumped in promoted 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: both of them to important positions, first of all as 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 4: senior advisors in his office helping guide the reform of 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: the IRS that's going to be pretty radical. And then 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: after one year they will go back into the agency 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: in very senior leadership positions. And in fact, just today 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: Scott Bessant has said that Gary Shapley, who was the 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: senior Super five Street agent on the Hunter Biden case, 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: he will be the deputy head of Criminal Investigations at 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 4: the IRS. 35 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 5: There's a lot going on, Miranda, It's like every day 36 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 5: I got to keep your head on a swivel. 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: But even when it comes. 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: To crazy levels of insane corruption, were you blown away 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 5: by how many people were protecting Hunter Biden? Because Buck 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 5: and I when we had this conversation on the show, 41 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I was in disbelief, to say nothing of 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 5: the fact that he's going on luxurious vacations to South 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: Africa while he's claiming poverty here in the United States. 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 5: And I'm glad by the way that the Trump administration 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: has pulled the protection of Hunter Biden. But even with 46 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: the understanding of how much craziness and wasted funds there 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: are in the federal government, did it astound you. 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: How big the security detail was for Hunter Biden? 49 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 4: Not really, because I have seen him right for instance, 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: last summer when he was in court in Delaware, in 51 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: Wilmington over these gun felonies that he was convicted on. 52 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 4: Every day he would arrive in a gigantic motorcade you know, 53 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: of black Secret Service cadillacs with you know, I don't know. 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 4: It seemed like vast armies. Donald Trump has said there 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: were eighteen Secret Service agents with him in South Africa. 56 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 4: That kind of makes sense because he has two agents 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: assigned to him. His wife, Melissa Cohen, has two agents, 58 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: so that's four. You've got three shifts of eight hours, 59 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: so you're already up to twelve and then you know 60 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: you've got to have extras because they can't be expected 61 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: to work seven. 62 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 6: Days a week. 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: So it kind of makes sense that eighteen agents would 64 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: have flown over to South Africa. We're told by Garrett 65 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: Ziegler from Marc Po Polo, who's had a private eye 66 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: following following Hunter Biden of Hunter Biden suing him, and 67 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: he wanted to find out if Hunter Biden was sort 68 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: of flouting at the court orders and he Garrett Ziegeler 69 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 4: has said that Hunter Biden is spending ninety days in 70 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: Cape Town with his wife, Melissa Cohen, who. 71 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: Was born for how many days? 72 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: Ninety three months? 73 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: For really, I mean, this is crazy buck. 74 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: And what's he having a vacation from because he never 75 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: does anything. He's now a proper job since he first 76 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: left university and he went and worked in one of 77 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: his father's you know donors in Delaware, m NBA or NBNA, 78 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: which is a big credit card company that gave him 79 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: a job on an inflated salary that he would not 80 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: have had if he hadn't been Joe Biden's son. And 81 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 4: he was bored with that, so he just walked away 82 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: from it. And ever since, he's just grifted off his 83 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: father's name. 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: How is the Biden brand doing for the Griff these days? Miranda, 85 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: We had a sad story that we had to bring 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: to this audience that if any of our listeners had 87 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: purchased a Hunter Biden oil painting, unfortunately, the value does 88 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: not seem to have skyrocketed. 89 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I know it's funny, isn't it. How as soon 90 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: as Joe Biden lost power, Hunter Biden suddenly broke. He 91 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: can't sell his paintings, No one's buying his awful book. 92 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: Funny about that. And they're not giving him jobs. Oligarchs 93 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 4: are not offering him millions of dollars to do nothing. 94 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 4: So he's now crying poor. And he told the court 95 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: in California that he couldn't continue with his lawsuit against 96 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: Garrett Ziegler and Marco Polo because he just didn't have 97 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: the funds to pay lawyer, which sort of made sense 98 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: because Abby Lowell is a pretty expensive lawyer who sort 99 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 4: of marshaled all his court cases while Joe Biden was 100 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: vice president. But after the pardon, he seemed to vanish 101 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: from the scene. And I remember being in court one 102 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: time and Abbey Lole was complaining busily about, you know, 103 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: being short on resources. So and that was after Kevin Morris, 104 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: the Sugar brother, the other lawyer from Hollywood, had said 105 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 4: that he was closing his wallet to Hunter after having 106 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 4: funded his lifestyle for so many years and also paying 107 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: off about six million dollars in his tax debts to 108 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 4: the irs. So Kevin Morris has had enough. He's not 109 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: spending any more money. And so Hunter had to pay 110 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: for his own lawyers, so maybe he stopped paying them 111 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: because they didn't show up in California. The judge, I 112 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: think the court had sent out an app and finally 113 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: Abby Lole popped up and said, oh, I've always been 114 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: working for Hunter Biden, but he had not, he had disappeared. 115 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 4: So now he's back on the scene. And you know, 116 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: the money just ratchets up every hour that that guy 117 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: gets paid. And Hunter Biden is saying he doesn't have 118 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: the money, so maybe he doesn't. 119 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 5: We're talking to Miranda Divine. I can't get over ninety 120 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: day vacation to South Africa. 121 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: I mean, look at. 122 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Any idea as Clay no ninety day vacations on this show, Sir, 123 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: I I. 124 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: Just he doesn't have an actual job, Like what is 125 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: he vacationing from? Like this is like how many people 126 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 5: get to go on a three month African safari basically 127 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 5: from not having a job in the first place, Like 128 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: how does he need to be able to rest and rehabilitate? 129 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: But I will say how much difference is it? 130 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: For you, Miranda, and in just this world that we 131 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 5: live in now to instead of when you're writing articles 132 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 5: during the Biden administration, everyone says, oh, that's made up, 133 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 5: Oh that's not true. To win the New York Post 134 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 5: article that you wrote about Hunter Biden's Secret Service detail 135 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 5: following him to Africa, the Trump team reads it and 136 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 5: they're like, yeah, that's over, We're pulling that. That has 137 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 5: to feel amazing to be able to know that you're 138 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 5: doing good investigative journalism. 139 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: And not only is it being widely. 140 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 5: Distributed through the New York Post, which I believe deserves 141 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 5: all the Pulitzers that the what New York Times and 142 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: the Washington Post actually got for Russia collusion for what 143 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 5: you wrote about the Hunter Biden laptops. But how much 144 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 5: better does it feel to know that that whatever you 145 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 5: produce can be acted upon and often will be acted 146 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 5: upon by the White House. 147 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: Well, I just have to put in one caveat that 148 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: it wasn't really my investigative prowess that got this story. 149 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: It was actually Garrett Ziegler micro Polo with their private investigator, 150 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: who gave the photographs to Laura Luma, who then very 151 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: kindly said that I could use them. So you know, 152 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: I didn't really do a hell of a lot myself, 153 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: other than I talked to or tried to get the 154 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: White House to respond, and also the Department of Homeland 155 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: Security and also the Secret Service, and I have to 156 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: say they all went to ground. They were not at 157 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: all helpful. They sort of tried to gaslight me in 158 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: the beginning. Finally, way past my deadline, the Secret Service 159 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 4: spokesman gave me a quote that said, well, we can't 160 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 4: go into methods and blah blah, but we can confirm 161 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 4: that Hunter Biden is a protectee. So I published that quote, 162 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: published the story. There's outrage. Our reporters in Washington tried 163 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: to get a question in at the White House press 164 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 4: conference but were not called upon. And then later that 165 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: day in a gaggle I think at Air Force One, 166 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: it was I think a Washington Times reporter actually asked 167 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: the President about the Hunter Biden eighteen strong security Secret 168 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: Service detail in Cape Town, and Trump said I haven't 169 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: heard that before, which I mean, maybe that's the case. 170 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: He's very busy, and he said, well, I mean eighteen 171 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: that sounds excessive, and I'm going to look at that. 172 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: This afternoon, and sure enough, he then pulled not only 173 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: the eighteen agents that were with Hunter Biden in Cape Town, 174 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 4: but also thirteen agents he said were assigned to Ashley Biden, 175 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: who's Joe Biden's daughter, the only daughter he has with 176 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: only child with Joe Biden, Hunter Biden's half sister. And 177 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: you know, neither Ashley Biden nor Hunter Biden were eligible 178 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: to have Secret Service protection after Joe Biden's term ended. 179 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 4: It's only the children of former presidents up to the 180 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: age of sixteen, so there was some And apparently what 181 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 4: I was told off the record was that Joe Biden 182 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: made an executive memo before he left office to extend 183 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: Sick Service protection for his adult children indefinitely, and nobody 184 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: in the Trump administration had stepped in to stop that 185 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: until Donald Trump did, until we amplified the work of 186 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: Laura Lumer and Marco Poland all. 187 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: Right, I've got a question for you, Miranda. I don't 188 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: know if you saw, but I'm going to be traveling 189 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 5: on Air Force one with President Trump this weekend to 190 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 5: go to the nc DOUBA wrestling tournaments. 191 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: I question for you two. Oh, you're going to be there, 192 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: You're going to be on the plane. 193 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: No, I'm not going to be on the plane, but 194 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 4: I'm going to be at the tournament with Tony bob Lynsky, 195 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 4: who's one of the other brilliant whiskele blowers in the 196 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: Hunter Biden case. 197 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: I didn't feel left out before, Miranda, But you and 198 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Clay taking tequila shots while watching the Ncuba wrestling, I 199 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: might have to like hit your riders. 200 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: All right. 201 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 5: Well, I've never met you in person, Miranda. I was 202 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 5: going to ask you for well, I hope to see 203 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 5: you on Saturday. Then I was going to ask you 204 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 5: for advice. I bet you've been on Air Force one before. 205 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 5: Should I know anything? 206 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I went once about three weeks ago, when I 207 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: interviewed President Up. Gosh, just the food is great. I 208 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: don't know if you'll have enough time to have a meal. 209 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: The presidential suite at the front of the plane is 210 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 4: plush and gorgeous. So I would just keep your eyes peeled. 211 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 4: I didn't because I was so concentrating on my questions. 212 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: But keep your eyes peeled for dac Or. I wish 213 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: i'd done that. And get a photograph of yourself. Get 214 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 4: the White House photographer to take a photo of you 215 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: in his office, in Trump's office on Air Force one, 216 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 4: interviewing him, because that will be a memento for the ages. 217 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: I can't well, I'm so excited about getting to go 218 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 5: on Air Force one. I mean again, I just wanted 219 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 5: to ask your advice. By the way, how do you 220 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 5: think I'll be received by the White House press cord? 221 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 2: Do you think they'll be fans? 222 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: Well, hopefully you won't be actually with them. They sort 223 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: of apart down the back of the plane, and you 224 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: probably will get to sit up closer where the staff are, 225 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: so that will be most sty and then you'll get 226 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: like the first class service, the more comfortable seats, et cetera. Look, 227 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: I think probably most of the reporters who are in 228 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: the White House school. I know we have a post reporter, 229 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: Stephen Nelson's been in that several times. I think most 230 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: of them are just professionals who are trying to do 231 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: their job. It's only occasionally you'll get someone like that 232 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 4: NPR woman the other day who was so clumsy managing 233 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: the boom mic that it basically crashed into Donald Trump's 234 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: face and brushed across it. You know, I don't know 235 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: whether that was deliberate or not, who knows, but it 236 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 4: was certainly clumsy. 237 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: So I think there are. 238 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: A few real anti Trump people who are in that preschool. 239 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: So hopefully on the day that you go, they won't 240 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: be there. 241 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: Fingers crossed. I'm looking forward to seeing any Saturday. By 242 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: the way, Yeah me too. 243 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: I hope, I hope we get the chance. I think 244 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 4: there'll be a lot of people there. But Tony Bobolinski 245 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: is an absolute legend, Penn State wrestling champion and obviously 246 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: whistle blow a champion against the Bidens. He was Hunter 247 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: Biden's former business partner and he really went all out 248 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: during the campaign to campaign in Pennsylvania to get the 249 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: whole Penn State team wrestling team on board with Donald Trump, 250 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: which they are, and so we're rooting for Penn State. 251 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: Awesome. I can't wait. 252 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: Miranda, keep up the killer work and I hope to 253 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: see you this weekend. 254 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah you too, thanks so much to Gays. 255 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: She's done such a good job. You and Miranda did 256 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: you hang out this weekend? 257 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, the buckster getting left getting left behind while 258 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: you and Miranda are clinking the champagne glasses flying around 259 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: on the jet. 260 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 5: I see how it is, I will say, Miranda, because 261 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: you killed it at what was that the New York 262 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 5: speech that you gave, Oh, show it out. But for Buck, 263 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 5: like for me, you oh yeah yeah. She texted me 264 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: when you when you were at the. 265 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: Metropolitan Republican the Buckster is fantastic at the live events. 266 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Just throwing that out there if any of you who 267 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: are looking for a keynote. And I gave a speech 268 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: and she missed it, but then we hung out afterwards 269 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: and Carries. 270 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: Well she texted me and said, I heard Buck was 271 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 5: great at his New York speech. I want to be 272 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 5: able to hang out with him. And I was like, well, 273 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: I got to get you guys on a text chain 274 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: and you guys just went out and party the night away. 275 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: You know, your boy Buck gets it done. No notes, 276 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: no nothing throws down. 277 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: That's how we do. 278 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 5: By the way, appreciate everybody out there who was at 279 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: the Nashville Davidson County GOP event last night. I spoke 280 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 5: to them in the great State of Tennessee. So if 281 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 5: you guys are listening right now, really fun time there. 282 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 5: Appreciate y'all hanging out there. 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One more time, clayanbuckfour Hillsdale dot com. 301 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: You don't know what you don't know right, but you 302 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 5: could On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, 303 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 304 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 5: of you hanging out with us. Really quick, Tom and Florida. 305 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 5: You got a question. 306 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: You got to be fast, big Biden to gay student bones. 307 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: The Supreme Court told him you can't do it. He 308 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: defied him and did it anyway. There was no consequence. 309 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: And why Trump won't refuses to defy any of these 310 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: district court judges with sure or nobody. And I can 311 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: tell you that Roberts looks more like suited to me, 312 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: and Coney Barrett looks more like Sandre dal'conna to me. 313 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So good questions. 314 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 5: What Biden kept doing was trying to redefine what was 315 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 5: and was not permissible with student loans. So he just 316 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 5: kept trying to rewrite his student loan forgiveness plan so 317 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 5: that it would marshal with Supreme Court precedent. That is 318 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: that backdrop. But he also took cases regularly that he 319 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 5: knew the Supreme Court was going to defy, like for instance, Buck, 320 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: if you remember when he was saying, hey, we're going 321 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 5: to extend the moratorium on eviction. He knew it was 322 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 5: not permissible. He did it anyway because he knew it 323 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 5: would take months for the Supreme Court to overturn it. 324 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: All true, And now I find out from Clay that 325 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: Tim Walls thinks he can beat most of you guys 326 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: listening to this in a fight, and so he said, 327 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 5: we got to discuss this. 328 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: Those are fighting words all of you. Tim Walls thinks 329 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: he can take you. We'll talk about it. 330 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: There's a compelling video online for you to see a 331 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: conversation that contemplates a major disruption in the future of 332 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: our economy. Look, I'm not wishing for this, but I 333 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: want you to be prepared. And this is a prediction 334 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: you need to see. And that prediction comes from my dad. 335 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: This is his area of expertise financial markets and how 336 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: they affect everyday Americans, and I think you'll find it 337 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: really beneficial. Growing up and until present day, my dad, 338 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: Mason Sexton, has made his living researching and predicting the 339 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: stock market. When he's right with his predictions, he often 340 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: is it's beneficial to so many investors. To his credit, 341 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: my dad created a name for himself on Wall Street 342 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: by his forecasts, most notable one calling the crash of 343 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: eighty seven, then again in two thousand and nine. You 344 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: can see his prediction his forecast for the future at 345 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: this website Disruption twenty twenty five dot com. That's Disruption 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five dot com video free to watch. Go 347 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: check out his next big prediction for the market, Is 348 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: it going to crash? You got to see for yourself. 349 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: Disruption twenty twenty five dot com. Let's check in on 350 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: the Democrats here. 351 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: For a moment. Are still not going so well for them? 352 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Sad, very sad exclamation points sad for Democrats. They have 353 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: no leadership to speak of. They are floundering and they 354 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: don't have any message. But they do have tim walls. 355 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: They've got tim walls for whatever that's worth. First off, 356 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: let's start with this one, Clay. We've discussed how there 357 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: are all these Democrats now who are celebrating a downturn 358 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: in the Tesla stock. Now, I understand you could say, well, 359 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: that's just a private company. Why why should that be 360 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: any different? Well, because Tesla is doing more for the 361 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: electric car market than any other company, and not just 362 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: electric cars, battery technology, self driving. It is a game 363 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: changer of a company, and it's just one of Elon's companies. 364 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: If you pretend to care about climate change, the environment, 365 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, you should love Tesla. But no, not because 366 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: because Elon is two nice Trump cut five. Here, here's 367 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: Tim Walltz being being well who he is. 368 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: Play it. I don't some of you know this on 369 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: the iPhone. They've got that little stock gap. I added 370 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: Tesla tude to give me a little boost during. 371 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: The day. 372 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: Two twenty five and dropping. So, and if you own one, 373 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: if you own one, we're not blaming you. 374 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 5: You can you can take dental floss and pull the 375 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 5: Tesla thing off, you know, and take out of just telling. 376 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: You, Okay, Clay, Uh, he's he's a nimrod. I mean, truly, 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: he's not. People in Minnesota who vote for him should 378 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: feel bad about their decision making. Truly, they should be 379 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: ashamed to have cast a vote for this. This absolutely, 380 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: this abject imbecile. Also, Elon's the richest man in the world. 381 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: Do lips just not I know, they complain about billionaires 382 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: all the time. Do they really not understand Tesla could 383 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: go bankrupt tomorrow. Elon has more money than he will 384 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: ever know what to do with, just based on the 385 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: other enormously profitable and well and and uh and valuable 386 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: companies that he owns. So what do they even think 387 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: they're celebrating here that people are losing money on a 388 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: great company, that's all American. I mean, well, what what 389 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: is the he's so dumb, He's just so he's really dumb. 390 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: But I mean, to me, the the essence of this 391 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 5: buck is if you truly believe in climate change, and 392 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 5: a lot of left wingers do, it is their foundational 393 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 5: belief existential threat. 394 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: That is the phrase Obama used it biden us it 395 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: meaning it will make us go extinct. 396 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 5: If that is your calling card, if that is your 397 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: north star, I think it's fair to say no one 398 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 5: has ever done more to fight climate change from a 399 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 5: capitalistic perspective in the history of the world than Evon Musk. So, 400 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 5: whether it's solar power, whether it is the UH with 401 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 5: solar power company that he has, and obviously with Tesla. 402 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 5: So so what you're saying is your Trump derangement is 403 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 5: so significant that it overrides your commitment to the idea 404 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 5: of climate change as an existential threat. So really, what 405 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 5: it tells us is your north star, Your foundational belief 406 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 5: system is not actually predicated in any way on climate change. 407 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 5: It's just being anti anything Trump or anything connected to Trump, 408 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: such that you will destroy your actual foundational belief, which 409 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 5: is rooting for the failure of tesla If in some 410 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 5: way it harms someone who is willing to work to 411 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 5: try to help Trump be an effective president. 412 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: That's really what this is all about. 413 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 5: And I think it's pretty staggering, extraordinary and even for Democrats, 414 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 5: off the chart typocritical. Now that wasn't all Timwall said. 415 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: He went on with Gavin Newsom and said that he 416 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 5: could kick your ass. 417 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: If you are a Trump supporter, listen and well, this 418 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 2: kick most of their ass. I do think I can 419 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: run him. 420 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 6: But I don't know if we're going to fall into 421 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 6: that place where we want to. 422 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: Okay, we challenge you to a do you know a 423 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: WWE fight here type of thing? 424 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: Okay, Tim Walls could beat most of you listening in 425 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: a pie eating contest. I don't think he could beat 426 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: you in a fight. Okay, this guy is there's nothing 427 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: tough about Tim Walls. 428 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: Would you box Tim Walls? What Clay? I would annihilate 429 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: Tim Walls? I I think I would. I think I 430 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: would annihilate. They would not. I would not. 431 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: It would not be I mean he's an old man, 432 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: but like Tim Walls in his prime, I would annihilate too. 433 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: You had no shot, So is this. 434 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 5: So this is first of all, I think if we 435 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 5: eliminate women, and I think some of the women out 436 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: there could kick Tim Walls's ass. But let's eliminate women 437 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: Trump voters. Let's take him at his word. Do you 438 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 5: think Tim Walls could beat fifty point one percent of 439 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 5: Trump voters asses? The only way I could see this 440 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 5: working is if he's only fighting like eighty five year olds. 441 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 5: If you limit it to people within ten years of 442 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 5: his age, so you could be you and I would 443 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 5: be out of that categorization. But basically it would be 444 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: you know, people who are fifty to seventy. I think 445 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 5: most average fifty to seventy year olds who voted for 446 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 5: Trump would beat up Tim Walls. If you actually, I 447 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 5: will say this, I think that's true. I will say 448 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: this though it is true across the board that men. 449 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 5: This is true of all of us. And I think 450 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: Rogan made this point at some point on his podcast 451 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 5: not too long ago. The one area where all men 452 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 5: most dramatically overestimate their ability is if they had to fight. 453 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 5: If they had to fight, and the one thing about 454 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: doing a little bit of fight training, like I've done 455 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: a little bit of fight training, is you learn very quickly. 456 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 5: Somebody who's actually trained filled. Yeah, you are absolutely toast, 457 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 5: like you have no shot, Like you think, I'm just 458 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 5: gonna get so fired up. It's gonna be like in 459 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: the movies. No, you're gonna be on the ground. You're 460 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 5: gonna not know what happened, and you're gonna have a concussion. 461 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: Like that's actually the way it goes. And I mean 462 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 5: I've been I've been in a boxing ring with somebody 463 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 5: who is way better than me. 464 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: It is not fun. 465 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 5: You feel bad about yourself afterwards, you have a bloody lip, 466 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 5: and you know it's not fun. Right, So these are 467 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: things that we all we don't like to think about 468 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 5: this very much. But also, if you're Tim Walls and 469 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 5: you want to be the next president of the United States, 470 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 5: you're the governor of a state. 471 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: Like why be like why even get into this? 472 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 5: That's the That's the real thing here is I could 473 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 5: cook the rs is like, that's such. 474 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: A lame thing to say. Why go there? 475 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: And I think it's because all the jazz hands jokes 476 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: that were made on shows like this one bothered him. 477 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: I would box Tim Walls. I would do it. 478 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 5: Here's the problem I've got, Buck what if I lost, 479 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 5: I think I would have to retire from media. Like 480 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: the risk reward of me boxing Tim Walls is I'm 481 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 5: forty five. 482 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: If I beat him, people would be like, yeah, you beat. 483 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: Him because you're fifteen years younger and you actually have 484 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 5: functional testosterone and you don't actually do jazz hands or 485 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 5: leg kicks for fun. What if they caught me with 486 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 5: a punch and I lost, I think I would have 487 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 5: to retire from media, Like I don't think. I don't 488 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 5: think I could ever continue to work in media. So 489 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 5: the risk reward here is high. But I would still 490 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 5: box him, I think, because if I lost, I would 491 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 5: just pull a Hunter Biden and go on, you know, 492 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 5: six months vacations for the rest of the world. You 493 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to find me anywhere. But I do 494 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 5: think your point on this one. I think what they're 495 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: trying to do is they recognize that there are virtually 496 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 5: no masculine men in the Democrat Party. And you know 497 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 5: what usually happens when somebody's not actually masculine. You're you're 498 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 5: good at pointing this out, and I've noticed it too, 499 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 5: Like most Navy seals don't walk around like trying to 500 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: pick fights with people like they know that they are badasses, 501 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: Like they don't feel need to walk into a bar 502 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: and bump into somebody to prove that they can kick 503 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 5: their ass. They know it because they're trained in it. Right, 504 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 5: The guy who is actually the least masculine is always 505 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 5: trying to overplay his masculinity. 506 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 507 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 5: And I think that's what's going on here with Tim 508 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: Walls is I think you're right. The insecurity is actually 509 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: now coming through on an aggressive level. I mean, if 510 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 5: you're if you're this is my opinion, if you are 511 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 5: fighting someone and it's not for your profession, you know, 512 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 5: like you're in the military or UFC or a box 513 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 5: or whatever, and you are over the age of like 514 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 5: twenty five, you need to look in the mirror and 515 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 5: seriously quite and your own life is not in danger. 516 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 5: Your family's life is not. Like if you get an 517 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 5: actual fist fight over the age of twenty five, as 518 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 5: my opinion, you need to look in the mirror and 519 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 5: be like, what is going on in my life that 520 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 5: I'm getting in fist fights at an advanced age? Right, 521 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 5: twenty five plus, you've probably got something going on, right, 522 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 5: Like the guy who picks fights at the bar is 523 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 5: not a healthy dude. And I feel like Tim Walls 524 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 5: in saying oh I could kick people from Trump voters asses. 525 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 5: First of all, you can't, but secondly, it just feels 526 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 5: desperate to me. 527 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: And this is the map. 528 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 5: This was the guy who was supposed to deliver men 529 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: for the Democrat Party. 530 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: Well, this is where I think that the humiliation comes in. 531 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: Is that? And why this is even something that is 532 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: on his mind? 533 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: You know the idea that Tim Wallas was going to appeal, 534 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: let's really just say what it is. They thought that 535 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, by walking around in a car heart jacket 536 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: and holding a shotgun like it was his first time 537 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: ever doing it, was going to get you know, men 538 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: who live in primarily Red states. Yes, so you know 539 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: this is we're making generalizations here, right, This is supposed 540 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: to be about generalizations. 541 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: Men who live in Red. 542 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: States, who maybe work with their hands in some capacity 543 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: to earn a living, have callouses on their hands, where 544 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: cars are not as some kind of a show piece, 545 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: but because that's the clothing and I know the car 546 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: it's apparently kind of expensive, but you know, some kind 547 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: of workman's jacket and everything else. They thought that Tim 548 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: Walls was gonna be able to be the I got 549 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: a beer and a shotgun and I like hunting too, 550 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, and everyone was like, no, actually, Tim Walls 551 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: looks like a guy who claps feverishly for the next 552 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: opening night of Hamilton. Like he just doesn't come across. 553 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: And part of this is I think the left wing 554 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: sort of the left wing identity now which has become 555 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: very anti male and anti masculine. 556 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 5: Tim Walls is a lesbian's idea of a man that 557 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 5: would appeal to straight men. 558 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: And when you. 559 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 5: Really think about it, that is actually like Tim Walls 560 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 5: looks like the kind of guy that a lesbian would like. 561 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 5: And I don't mean actual lesbian sexually, Like I mean 562 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 5: they think, oh, that's a man, and it didn't work. 563 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 5: And that actually kind of defines the way that women 564 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 5: who run the Democrat Party see men. 565 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: The analysis on these five hundred and fifty five stations 566 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: is unique. 567 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes I did. 568 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 5: To think about it, if you were like, hey, what 569 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 5: kind of person picks Tim Walls to be the avatar 570 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: of Democrat masculinity to appeal to men? In Red states 571 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: that Tim Walls is who a lesbian would pick. No 572 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 5: offense to lesbians. I love you all there out there listening. 573 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 5: Been a long fan of your work. But in general, 574 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 5: I don't know that lesbians really kind of plug into 575 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 5: the heterosexual male landscape very well. 576 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: And I still think the Democrats, tim Will have absolutely 577 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: no idea of how to deal with their masculinity deficit. 578 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: And I think it was our friend Ryan Gerdusky, who 579 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: shares the who you Know has the podcast A Numbers Game, 580 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: which is on the Clay and Buck Network. 581 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 2: Highly recommend it. 582 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: I think that he showed the numbers recently Clay that 583 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: the difference in this election, and I had said this 584 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: for a long the difference in the election was actually. 585 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: The white vote. Once again. 586 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: The actual difference in the aggregate numbers was the change here. 587 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: I'll find this for you. 588 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 5: I thought that Gamala actually did better with white voters 589 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four than Biden did, and that like 590 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: was up minimally, maybe not in the battleground states, but 591 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 5: that Trump continued to surge in Hispanic Asian black We'll talk. 592 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: About yo, Ryan. 593 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: It's also fascinating that Biden's win was entirely based on 594 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: a shift in white voters, despite the narrative that it 595 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: was a coalition of non whites standing up to white supremacy. Sorry, 596 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: so the Biden election was about where white voters. To clarify, 597 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: where you know, the white vote determined that election. Actually, 598 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: this time around there was a shift because this was 599 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: in response to white voters didn't shift at all in 600 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: their voting preferences from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty four, 601 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: while non white voters, is your point, all shifted to 602 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: the Republican side. 603 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 5: So the Democrat Party, we'll talk about this maybe in 604 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 5: the third hour, because the data out there is pretty staggering. 605 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 5: The Democrat Party are effectively the party of white college 606 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 5: educated women. Almost no one else supports them. 607 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: This is that's the key point from the data here 608 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: that Ryan was making, which is that they want they 609 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: wanted to act like twenty twenty was the minorities and 610 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: the oppressed standing up against Trump. No, it's actually just 611 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: a lot of white college educated voters. And this time around, 612 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: the only movement was in minority voters who went to Trump. 613 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 5: That's right, which created and again it should be a 614 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: bigger story than it is, the most racially diverse win 615 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 5: in sixty years in an American presidential election. 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But that Costco is actually super woke. 649 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 5: They're staying committed to DEI and things like that, and 650 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 5: all didn't know about that till this audience told me. 651 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 5: And that's very disappointing. I agree, off Air, I said, 652 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 5: one of the lessons I think of the bud Light 653 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 5: disaster is if your product is really really good, like 654 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 5: you chick fil A is an example. People are going 655 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 5: to keep consuming it no matter what the politics. Buy 656 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 5: and large of the company is like Chick fil A 657 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 5: closed on Sunday. They are a religious fast food restaurant. 658 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: If you have a truly superior product, you can get 659 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: away with a lot. More people drank bud Light because 660 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: of the brand it had built as American, it was 661 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: marketing over decades. They didn't really I know, sorry not 662 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: to offend anybody, They didn't really drink it because they 663 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: thought it was the best tasting beer. Clay, we have 664 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: a call that we speaking offending people. We need to 665 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: take this call. Canon Michigan Kennon Michigan is a retired 666 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: baker who wants to weigh in on cobbler gate. 667 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, someone that was working in bakeries for my career, 668 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 6: someone that did go to a culinary school. It was 669 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 6: just the general opinion that cobblers were made by people 670 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 6: who couldn't bake. They lacked the skill to make a 671 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 6: really good pie crust, and so they ended up making 672 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 6: the cobbler. 673 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 3: And that was boo. 674 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 6: That was just the general opinion of the students and 675 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 6: the teachers that I hung out with. 676 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: And Ken Well, Ken you are clearly an artisan and 677 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: a great American and a great baker. 678 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, play who is fielding calls here? Ken 679 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 5: is a blasphemer. I don't remember the last time we 680 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 5: had a worst call in the history of the show 681 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 5: than Ken off the top rope on cobbler. Makers can't 682 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 5: actually cook. That's no, can't make pie, he said, they 683 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 5: can't make pie crust. 684 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: Come on, I'm just look. 685 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 5: Cobbler is superior to the pie. I'm not anti your 686 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 5: apple pies. Nobody loves apple pies and American flags more 687 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 5: than me, But cobbler is far better. Apple cobbler better 688 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 5: than apple pie. I'll go to my grave armor