Speaker 1: Practice Rolphs, Patrick throwing Huown. What a win for this
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphin team. Wow? What is up? Dolphins? And welcome
Speaker 1: to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: official podcast network covering your Miami Dolphins. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, here to bring you your daily dose of
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins football and we are back for another show
Speaker 1: live from Indianapolis. It was the defensive players that took
Speaker 1: to the podium Thursday in Indie. We'll get you some
Speaker 1: quotes from the linemen and the linebackers, including effusive praise
Speaker 1: for Dolphins new linebacker coach Anthony Campanelli. But we'll also
Speaker 1: go backwards and check in with Kyle Crabs from the
Speaker 1: Draft Network to get his thoughts on the best prospects
Speaker 1: on offense. We'll chat with Pete Prisco of CBS Sports
Speaker 1: HQ and Jim Naggy, the executive director of the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: All of that and more on this Friday, February edition
Speaker 1: of the Drivetime Podcast. And the beautiful part about this
Speaker 1: edition of the Drive Time Podcast is that most of
Speaker 1: the work has already done for us being down in
Speaker 1: the scrum on Thursday. It was a busy busy morning
Speaker 1: for myself and the audio video team. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Trey Freeman for following me around down there and getting
Speaker 1: us all this great content. We spoke to a lot
Speaker 1: of players, several analysts. We almost nabbed Brady Quinn, but
Speaker 1: that guy was doing radio and stepping down for live
Speaker 1: hits on the commercial breaks, so he would spread pretty thin.
Speaker 1: But that's okay because we've got plenty of great sound
Speaker 1: bites for you guys, and we'll start here with this
Speaker 1: one from Pete Prisco of CBS Sports HQ. Alright, we're
Speaker 1: here with Pete Prisco, CBS Sports HQ. Pete, how's your
Speaker 1: week going so far? It's good. Uh, this is a
Speaker 1: long week. It's fun. Combines changed as I first started
Speaker 1: coming here. We used to have about twenty reporters in
Speaker 1: a building over there and we brought players out and
Speaker 1: we talked to him. That's how they do. And now
Speaker 1: look at this. What's what's the biggest change for you
Speaker 1: as far as the schedule goes on field work out
Speaker 1: some of them maybe the pre draft or the pre
Speaker 1: combined meetings. Well, I think it's um taking a little
Speaker 1: chunk out of the nightlife and talking to guys out
Speaker 1: at the bars. You know how we used to always
Speaker 1: go out and you see guys and coaches. It's not
Speaker 1: as many of them out now with the way the
Speaker 1: schedule is, and I imagine it's going to get even
Speaker 1: tighter in the next couple of days. In your opinion,
Speaker 1: what's the true strength of this year's draft class? I
Speaker 1: think the wide receiver group is outstanding. I mean there's
Speaker 1: a ton of guys. You start with the best guys,
Speaker 1: you know, Jared Judy and Cede Lamb. I think when
Speaker 1: you look at that group there, they're the best, but
Speaker 1: there's about ten, twelve, thirteen, fifteen guys that are gonna
Speaker 1: be good players in this league. So that's the biggest
Speaker 1: strength of this draft. But I also think if you're
Speaker 1: looking for an offensive tackle, there's five guys that will
Speaker 1: probably go in the first round and they're all really
Speaker 1: good players. So I think that's the strength of draft.
Speaker 1: We've heard from several draft analysts this might be one
Speaker 1: of the deeper classes we've seen in some time. A
Speaker 1: good year to have four team picks, as the Dolphins do.
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that sentiment. I think the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are in a great situation I've said that all along. Uh.
Speaker 1: In fact, Brady Quinny we were just talking to over there.
Speaker 1: We've had arguments about it. I said, make me the
Speaker 1: GM of the Dolphins. I'll fix that thing. They got money,
Speaker 1: they got cap room, and they have of picks. Is
Speaker 1: this is going to be a quick turnaround in Miami?
Speaker 1: How much do you think there is pressure on the
Speaker 1: Dolphins maybe make a move in the draft at some point,
Speaker 1: maybe go get that quarterback of the future. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's necessarily the case. I mean, we
Speaker 1: got to see how to it checks out in terms
Speaker 1: of his medical where he is. Uh, from that standpoint,
Speaker 1: what's the hip recovery because he might have to who
Speaker 1: knows he might have to miss some time. You know,
Speaker 1: he says he's getting clear, but we don't know how
Speaker 1: many teams cleared him, how many didn't. If he's there
Speaker 1: and they have the conviction on him, don't mess it up.
Speaker 1: If you really believe it, go up and get him.
Speaker 1: But you know, we don't know because until we get
Speaker 1: the medical clearance on him, I'll have no idea. And
Speaker 1: how would you stack those quarterbacks at the top of
Speaker 1: the class this season? This year? I think it's borrow
Speaker 1: number one to a number two, probably Herbert number three,
Speaker 1: Love number four, I think, you know, and then you'll
Speaker 1: see how Easton I want to see how he throws,
Speaker 1: and then maybe from but I think that's pretty standard one.
Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball, Isaiah Simmons talked
Speaker 1: earlier today, probably the most first of a player to
Speaker 1: come out in sometime. Who are some other guys that
Speaker 1: really offer a lot of fatility for your defensive side
Speaker 1: of the football. I think you got to look at
Speaker 1: the safety position. I mean the way the game is
Speaker 1: played now, the safety can play like a buck linebacker
Speaker 1: in certain situations. So like Xavier McKinney from Alabama is
Speaker 1: a guy you if you're looking for safety help, you
Speaker 1: want that kind of guy. I mean delpit he didn't
Speaker 1: tackle last year. That's a concern of mine. But those
Speaker 1: are the kind of guys that can drop down and
Speaker 1: then along the defensive line. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: guy in Marlon Davidson, he can play defensive end. He
Speaker 1: can I think he can move inside and play, you know,
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher and passing situations. From Auburn, I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy to keep an eye on. And
Speaker 1: last question for you here, what's the number one thing
Speaker 1: you can take away from this week in Indianapolis. Whether
Speaker 1: it's an executive, a scout, a head coach, what's the
Speaker 1: top thing you're looking to accomplish Indianapolis. I think this
Speaker 1: is all about the quarterbacks, the quarterback carousel. Where's it go?
Speaker 1: Where's Tom Brady going? You know, you talked to people
Speaker 1: that say that Tampa's in play for him and will
Speaker 1: he go there? Uh? You know, where's Rivers going? Is
Speaker 1: he coming to here to Indianapolis? And then how the
Speaker 1: rest of the dominoes all fall? Where's Teddy Bridge? We're
Speaker 1: gonna wind up? He's a Miami kid. Where's he wind up? So?
Speaker 1: I think the quarterback carousel is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: Pete Risco, CBS Sports HQ, thank you. So some adamant
Speaker 1: praise there from Prisco by the Dolphins front office for
Speaker 1: the work they did to get the Dolphins into this
Speaker 1: position and where they are with all the picks and
Speaker 1: all the cap space they have available to them. And
Speaker 1: the driver of the bus was, of course, general manager
Speaker 1: Chris Greer. And Greer appeared on the Move the Sticks
Speaker 1: podcast on Tuesday with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks, and
Speaker 1: he had some great quotes in that podcast with some
Speaker 1: nice transparency for the guys at MTS. Bucky Brooks asked
Speaker 1: him about how he balances the difference between the tape
Speaker 1: and the combine, and Greer said, quote, the tape is
Speaker 1: the majority of it. With the combined players can kind
Speaker 1: of fake it. You're going to have to spend some
Speaker 1: time outside of the setting because everything is so rehearsed
Speaker 1: and coached for these guys now, and that's the hard
Speaker 1: part of trying to get to know who they are
Speaker 1: and quote. They then asked him a question about the
Speaker 1: collaboration between the front office and the coaching staff. You've
Speaker 1: heard Chris Greer say before that he wants to be
Speaker 1: on the same page as Brian Flores, and Brian Flores
Speaker 1: even said he wouldn't have to can this job last
Speaker 1: season if he wasn't on the exact same page as
Speaker 1: everybody in that building. So it is a massive collaboration
Speaker 1: here in Miami, and Greer said, quote, it's imperative. The
Speaker 1: communication has to be on the same page or you've
Speaker 1: got no chance. It's a lot of time with Brian Flores,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the scouts making sure that whether
Speaker 1: it's prototypes or scheme specific stuff that at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's all about communication and really spending
Speaker 1: time talking through things. You'll always see talented players, but
Speaker 1: sometimes they may not fit what you want, whether it's mentally,
Speaker 1: character wise, etcetera. Talking through all that stuff, that's the
Speaker 1: only way teams win and find good players. And we
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time doing that end quote. And
Speaker 1: of course by now we all know that versatility has
Speaker 1: become commonplace in today's league, and Grier mentioned it himself
Speaker 1: that the league is no longer like it was in
Speaker 1: the past when you had a fullback on first and
Speaker 1: second down, then when you got stuck in third and long,
Speaker 1: you bring the third receiver onto the field. So when
Speaker 1: he was asked about that career said, quote, it's a
Speaker 1: huge part of the game. A big thing is for
Speaker 1: your roster to it allows you to keep players at
Speaker 1: other positions or do things because you have a guy
Speaker 1: that can play guard and center, for instance, or a
Speaker 1: cornerback that can play safety. Eric Road to that for
Speaker 1: us last year, it's finding guys like that because the
Speaker 1: game has changed so much, it's spread out. I think
Speaker 1: teams aren't finding ways to spread teams out and do things.
Speaker 1: You have to adjust and be able to find ways
Speaker 1: to counter it. End quote. So Greer crushing it and
Speaker 1: Brian Flora's he too is crushing it. And we'll get
Speaker 1: to Kyle Crabs from the Draft Network here in just
Speaker 1: one moment. But I also had a chance to do
Speaker 1: a walk and talk with he and ESPNS Cameron Wolf,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about how great Flora's as presser
Speaker 1: was back on Tuesday, and Cam, of course, being a
Speaker 1: veteran here on the dolphin scene, mentioned and even more
Speaker 1: confident Flora's this year. Last year, it was all kind
Speaker 1: of a worldwin for him coming to Indianapolis, which really
Speaker 1: just makes the job he did even more commendable. You've
Speaker 1: got to remember he won a Super Bowl and then
Speaker 1: was announced the very next day in Miami with no
Speaker 1: sleep to speak of. He had to assemble an entire
Speaker 1: coaching staff and get out here to Indianapolis with all
Speaker 1: their scouting notes in just a three week stretch. And
Speaker 1: the job he did last year, of course, finishing with
Speaker 1: five wins in the final nine games, has certainly earned
Speaker 1: him unanimous praise across the League, and especially from his
Speaker 1: former co worker and current executive director of the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: Jim Naggy. All right, we're here with Jim Naggy, the
Speaker 1: director of the Reese's Senior Bowl. Jim, First of all,
Speaker 1: I want to congratulate on the success of that game,
Speaker 1: which have taken off the last couple of years. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Um. Yeah, we're working hard and we're
Speaker 1: doing it for the NFL teams. I mean, the main
Speaker 1: goal is to get good rosters for those guys. And
Speaker 1: it's fun to see our guys get drafted and all that,
Speaker 1: and that helps us recruit players for the next year.
Speaker 1: But you know that the most rewarding thing is having
Speaker 1: the guys that come into Indie here and having having
Speaker 1: your your buddies from the league tell you, you know,
Speaker 1: the players were the good rosters and everything. So we're
Speaker 1: happy about it. Well, we gotta keep getting better. And
Speaker 1: one of those buddies, of course, Brian Floors, the head
Speaker 1: coach of the Miami Dolphins. You worked with him pack
Speaker 1: back with the time of the Patriots. I just want
Speaker 1: to get your kind of feeling about how happy you
Speaker 1: are for him in the success he had late this year,
Speaker 1: winning five of the final nine games with Dolf. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, you're always happy for your friends when
Speaker 1: you see him do well. And it's no surprise. And
Speaker 1: I wasn't shy about it last year when they when
Speaker 1: they hired Brian, I thought it was a great higher
Speaker 1: and so to see how they ended up the year
Speaker 1: and then and then that win in New England to
Speaker 1: end the year, you know, back against the Patriots where
Speaker 1: he spent so much time, it was awesome. He's got
Speaker 1: that thing going in the right direction, for sure. I'd
Speaker 1: be very missf. I didn't ask you, is there any
Speaker 1: kind of behind the scenes scouting story you can give
Speaker 1: us about your time with the Patriots and with Brian
Speaker 1: Flowers when you guys are on the road together, anything
Speaker 1: like that. We were never on the road together because
Speaker 1: Brian was a scouting assistant and I was I think
Speaker 1: I was in the Midwest at that time scouting. But no,
Speaker 1: I just remember a guy that he just worked his
Speaker 1: tail off, you know, and he was the same guy
Speaker 1: all the time, and he just that was a pretty
Speaker 1: intense building um back then and it probably still is.
Speaker 1: But to have people like Brian and made it a
Speaker 1: great place to work. He's the best. And as a scout,
Speaker 1: what's the number one thing that you can accomplish here
Speaker 1: this week? Looking at all these players, going through the media,
Speaker 1: going through all the poking and prodding on field drills,
Speaker 1: what is the scout looking to take away number one
Speaker 1: this week here in India? I think it helps you
Speaker 1: check yourself, you know, in a lot of different areas.
Speaker 1: So whether it's something testing wise or you know, the
Speaker 1: other day everyone made the big deal about Joe Burrow's
Speaker 1: hand size, and all it is is just to make
Speaker 1: you go back and maybe maybe check yourself. So with
Speaker 1: Joe's hands aze, you go back and you pull up
Speaker 1: l s U tape of of a bad Weather game
Speaker 1: you know we're too bad weather. Can see how he
Speaker 1: controlled the ball and if it looked any different, And
Speaker 1: that's all you're trying to get at. If a guy
Speaker 1: runs a slower forty time than maybe you thought he played,
Speaker 1: we'll go back to the tape and check your eyes again.
Speaker 1: Is he you know, does the speed deficiency show up?
Speaker 1: Or or is it? Or was I good the first
Speaker 1: time when I graded him? So yeah, it's just kind
Speaker 1: of a easy way to check yourself. And as a
Speaker 1: Michigan alumni. The Dolphins just hired linebackers coach Anthony Campanelli
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff. What can you tell us about
Speaker 1: coach Campanelli and who is the best Michigan prospect here
Speaker 1: this week in India. Oh, that's a good question. I'm
Speaker 1: not really familiar with coach, so I can't comment too
Speaker 1: too much on him, but best Michigan prospect and they
Speaker 1: have eleven UM so I think they have the second most.
Speaker 1: I think josh j is really good the linebacker. He
Speaker 1: was in Mobile for the Senior Bowl. I actually thought
Speaker 1: after Javon Kinlaw, who was out after two days of practice,
Speaker 1: who was phenomenal for two days of practice, But after Javon,
Speaker 1: I thought josh Cha had all he had the best
Speaker 1: week of any defensive player. You know, he's not the
Speaker 1: tallest linebacker. He's only six wanting change, but he's got
Speaker 1: almost thirty four inch arms, so he plays long um
Speaker 1: and he can play off the ball. He's showed Mobile.
Speaker 1: He can cover. I mean he can run with tight
Speaker 1: ends and backs, and then he can be the most important.
Speaker 1: He can rush the passer. For a guy with that length,
Speaker 1: he's got really explosive hands. I mean, when he gets
Speaker 1: his hands on you, you see guys get jolted. So
Speaker 1: he's got a really nice pass rush game. I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna transition really fast in the pros and then
Speaker 1: and now that teams have seen him cover more like
Speaker 1: he did in mobile. Um, he's gonna be a really
Speaker 1: good player for somebody. Great, Jim, appreciate it. Yeah, thanks, Grass,
Speaker 1: And you heard Jim talking, of course about Josh. You
Speaker 1: j there at the end of that interview one of
Speaker 1: the players that I caught up with on the floor
Speaker 1: Thursday and asked him about his college coach, Anthony Campanelli,
Speaker 1: who of course is now the linebackers coach here in Miami. Listen, in, Josh,
Speaker 1: your position coach in Michigan, Anthony Campanelli is now with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. What can you say about your time with
Speaker 1: him in Michigan. It's one of the greatest guys I've
Speaker 1: ever met. You know, it's a really good person. He
Speaker 1: coasted the game the ways supposed be coasting, cares about
Speaker 1: his guys, and he's just a he's a great person.
Speaker 1: And what you can't see on that sound clip is
Speaker 1: before I even finished asking the question, you had a
Speaker 1: big smile on his face. From ear to ear, you
Speaker 1: can tell there's a genuine love there between he and
Speaker 1: his coach. Another favorite SoundBite of mine was from Utah's
Speaker 1: Bradley and I, who first talked about swimming with sharks, Yes,
Speaker 1: sharks voluntarily something you'll never see me do. I can
Speaker 1: guarantee you that. But I asked an I about his
Speaker 1: time at Utah and playing for Kyle Whittingham and the
Speaker 1: fact that Utah has nine players here in Indie, and
Speaker 1: what Whittingham and that program did to prepare guys for
Speaker 1: the next level at the NFL. Proudly, you've got nine
Speaker 1: teammates here at the scouting combine. What can you say
Speaker 1: about Kyle Whittingham and the Utah program? What kind of
Speaker 1: did to prepare you for the next step? Um, it's
Speaker 1: just pretty much an NFL rum system they have at Utah.
Speaker 1: Being being to meet his five minutes early, Just little
Speaker 1: things like that. It's UM taught their Utah accountability and
Speaker 1: responsibility on and off fulfill Uh. It's just feel very
Speaker 1: very well read, especially from the head coaching staff point,
Speaker 1: and it just gets you ready and gets your prepared
Speaker 1: for the next lot. We don't want to expect And
Speaker 1: as you can tell, I was asking all the Utah
Speaker 1: players that question because of the respect that Winningham has
Speaker 1: across college football. And so I asked Leaky a similar
Speaker 1: question to what I asked Bradley. And I think you
Speaker 1: got a lot of your teammates here in testament to
Speaker 1: Kyle Winningham in the program there at Utah. What are
Speaker 1: some of the things you took away from Kyle and
Speaker 1: the program in Utah? UM, I think that the main
Speaker 1: thing that I take it from the program quotes with UM,
Speaker 1: it's just understanding my role, um as a player. And
Speaker 1: you know, for us to be here, uh buying the
Speaker 1: list together, UM, this is a you set them into
Speaker 1: the program and coaches with with what he's done at
Speaker 1: the program for us, and it just shows how we can,
Speaker 1: you know, develop as players and uh coming in you know,
Speaker 1: with not many you know stars, I guess high school
Speaker 1: and uh, you know developed where we're at right now,
Speaker 1: at the highest level, Uh that we could be hanging now.
Speaker 1: And when he walked off the set, that guy towered
Speaker 1: over me and everybody else in that room for the
Speaker 1: most part. And let's be real, most of the guys
Speaker 1: out here do tower over people. And at the defensive
Speaker 1: edge position. I wasn't able to get a question into
Speaker 1: Chase Young because the crowd gathered a half an hour
Speaker 1: before he spoke, and it just got massive and massive,
Speaker 1: And rather than waiting for one question for Chase Young,
Speaker 1: I decided to go around and get more questions from
Speaker 1: other folks, like the next best edge on the Draft
Speaker 1: Networks list of edge players behind Chase Young a j
Speaker 1: Epanessa of Iowa and so with seven sacks in the
Speaker 1: final three games of the season, I asked Epanessa about
Speaker 1: his production spike towards the end of the season. Did
Speaker 1: you your production took off late in the season this year?
Speaker 1: What was the difference between September October than transitioning into November? Um?
Speaker 1: I was. I was transitioning learning kind of take on
Speaker 1: those double teams and ships, um, and all those different
Speaker 1: kind of blocks. And as the season went on, you
Speaker 1: could tell I started getting better at it and I
Speaker 1: started being able to be more productive. Um. But it
Speaker 1: just kind of came with me learning how to to
Speaker 1: counteract those kind of blocks. Yesterday you heard me talk
Speaker 1: to Charlie Casserley about McKay Beckton, one of the top
Speaker 1: offensive tackle prospects in this year's draft, and I believe
Speaker 1: the number three overall player on the Draft Networks big board.
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite questions to ask in this
Speaker 1: process is to get the players feel for who the
Speaker 1: best guy they faced that season, because that gives us
Speaker 1: a better feel for what that draft prospect can do
Speaker 1: across from those guys. So I talked to college Kareem
Speaker 1: about who the best player he faced this season on
Speaker 1: the offensive line was. Who's toughest guy he went up
Speaker 1: against last season? What kind of challenge do you provide
Speaker 1: for you and just try give you on that was
Speaker 1: pretty tough? Who was pretty for a prety big? It
Speaker 1: was an athletic to decent foot wards Jone. There was
Speaker 1: it about your dame that's as you apart from the
Speaker 1: pass mushers out here. Um, I feel like I'm every
Speaker 1: down player. I didn't stop the running first second down
Speaker 1: by still still until the third down, you know, passing
Speaker 1: that way. See hear him talk about being an every
Speaker 1: down player, three down guy, both pass rusher and run defender.
Speaker 1: So I asked him what was his best position that
Speaker 1: he plays across the defensive line, because you can play
Speaker 1: anywhere from zero technique over the nose all the way
Speaker 1: out to the wide nine technique, which you recall was
Speaker 1: one of Cam wakes specialties, and then incredible get off
Speaker 1: and speed rush that Cam Wake had off the edge.
Speaker 1: Here was Khalid's answer to what position he prefers most
Speaker 1: along the defensive line, playing a variety of positions across
Speaker 1: the new or damn defensive line, which technique is your
Speaker 1: favorite to rush from? Probably your five or nine. And
Speaker 1: to go back to the versatile players we talked about
Speaker 1: in the earlier segment with the Chris Greer hit on
Speaker 1: the Move the Sticks podcast, I stopped by Anthony Jennings podium,
Speaker 1: the Alabama outside linebacker slash edge player, and asked him
Speaker 1: what it was like playing at Alabama and how that
Speaker 1: might have prepared him to play at the next level. Anthony,
Speaker 1: A lot of Alabama players say that practices in college
Speaker 1: are harder than they are in the NFL. How does
Speaker 1: playing there prepare you for the next level? I hope
Speaker 1: you would prepare me. Well, you know, I ain't really
Speaker 1: uh done NFL yet, but you know, uh just every
Speaker 1: day comes showing over having to be your best because
Speaker 1: of the competition level being so high. You know, you
Speaker 1: just come out there and have to go to work
Speaker 1: every each and every day. Uh, you know, just farting
Speaker 1: in love with the ground, farting in love with football,
Speaker 1: and you just trying to be the best visited each
Speaker 1: and every day. You know how much we love each
Speaker 1: and every day here on this podcast, We absolutely love
Speaker 1: the grind. And one guy that grinded his way through
Speaker 1: college was Baylor's defensive end James Lynch. I asked him
Speaker 1: what his favorite position was and his best move to
Speaker 1: chase down opposing quarterbacks. I would say three techniques is
Speaker 1: my favorite. But like I said, I've done last year.
Speaker 1: I was fly technic the whole time, so I'm comfortable
Speaker 1: doing whatever. But I probably say through a technic and
Speaker 1: what move do you think you win best with? Um?
Speaker 1: Just like n actually just running like an inside swipe.
Speaker 1: Some along those lines. And one of the great benefits
Speaker 1: of the scouting combine is every player speaks. And while
Speaker 1: some of the guys take to the big podium and
Speaker 1: gather a large crowd, we saw Chase Young there was
Speaker 1: literally a hundred people around his tiny little podium they
Speaker 1: set up for him there. He then goes around to
Speaker 1: all the major network sets and does interviews live on
Speaker 1: those sets, and then across the side of the room
Speaker 1: they have some tables where some of the lesser known players,
Speaker 1: guys that might go on Day three, they speak to
Speaker 1: the media over there. And I had a chance to
Speaker 1: catch up with Alex Highsmith, the Charlotte outside linebacker slash Edge,
Speaker 1: and asked him about a game two years ago against
Speaker 1: the Clemson Tigers and what he took away from playing
Speaker 1: up in competition on that day years ago he went
Speaker 1: up against Clemson and Germaine Angorm on the Mouth Sticks
Speaker 1: podcast said that Alex Highsmith is the best player I
Speaker 1: ever played against. What does that company mean to you?
Speaker 1: And what's it like going up against a competition like
Speaker 1: like like a team like Clemson means a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: just be agog gets guys like that, you know, it
Speaker 1: was it was a it was a really awesome opportunity
Speaker 1: be able to play, you know, in Death Valley and
Speaker 1: play against those guys and just you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: that was kind of a lot of explosions for being,
Speaker 1: you know, so to visit kind of a mid game,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, that's this game that scout
Speaker 1: the game that scouts look at, you know, how do
Speaker 1: you play against the great competition here? So it was
Speaker 1: just it was really cool. You don't be able to
Speaker 1: go in there and just just have one of my
Speaker 1: many games for the year. Its use that was never
Speaker 1: pretty cool to play against him, but you know, um,
Speaker 1: just it's pretty cool. You know here you guys compliment
Speaker 1: like that. And finally had a chance to catch up
Speaker 1: with Tulsa edge defense event slash linebacker, slash plays everywhere
Speaker 1: across the defense Trevis Gibson and before I played the
Speaker 1: clip for you guys here, the best part about it
Speaker 1: was the introduction between he and I because his name
Speaker 1: is Travis, My name is Travis, and there was a
Speaker 1: bit of h hey, I'm Travis. He said hey, I'm
Speaker 1: Travis and I said, no, it's Travis, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm Travis. It was just one of those funny interactions.
Speaker 1: We had a great time talking back and forth and
Speaker 1: it led to a good one minute fifty second interview
Speaker 1: and here's that clip. Just what's the primary way you
Speaker 1: think that you win getting out from the quarterback? Um,
Speaker 1: I would just say being an unpredictable man. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to have a lot of different moves. As
Speaker 1: a past rusher, but two the three you definitely have
Speaker 1: to maximize and have as your top move. So if
Speaker 1: you master those, I feel like you've become unstoppable. And
Speaker 1: then once you have some great second options after that,
Speaker 1: I feel like you it'll thank you really successful. As
Speaker 1: far as your traits, like whether it's your athleticism or length,
Speaker 1: which of those do you think really gives you the
Speaker 1: best possibility of sixting at the next at the next level.
Speaker 1: I would think just playing with Lendless man playing with
Speaker 1: a chip on my shoulder, um tremendous effort and definitely
Speaker 1: my athletic ability. But you know, I feel like I
Speaker 1: still have a lot to improve in every aspect of
Speaker 1: my game until I mean on top one hundred Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers. So I'm definitely gonna continue to push on
Speaker 1: and learn as I don't how comfortble do you feel
Speaker 1: working on games like stunts and twists and slants that
Speaker 1: type of thing. Oh, that's I'm really comportable with that.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a lot of fun, you know
Speaker 1: what he shows it? Yeah, helps free up a lot
Speaker 1: of guys. And you know, like you said, it's a game,
Speaker 1: it's a defense line game. You're not just running one
Speaker 1: on one. You know, you gotta be on your p's
Speaker 1: and queues as an offensive lineman, be able to pick
Speaker 1: guys up, you know, see who's coming, to see who's not.
Speaker 1: And it's very fun. How have you enjoyed the process
Speaker 1: so far here in Indie this week? Man, It's been
Speaker 1: a pretty great process. You know, the interviews and just sound,
Speaker 1: the gear, the guys around, just being around the NFL
Speaker 1: coaches and jams and whatnot is a pretty good smooths.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things people might say about your
Speaker 1: draft stock is you played at a small school and Tulsa.
Speaker 1: What would you say in response to that in terms
Speaker 1: of what you can offer an NFL team, I would
Speaker 1: say just because I played at a small school. And
Speaker 1: it's also I mean, I'm made it here, so I
Speaker 1: mean I only came out of high school one division
Speaker 1: one offer. I mean people have been underestimating me ever
Speaker 1: since eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade, So I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep that tip on my shown and
Speaker 1: let people do what they do. Thank you, guys. So
Speaker 1: you heard me talk about his his tape and him
Speaker 1: saying that his best trait was how he plays relentlessly
Speaker 1: with his hair on fire, and it's just a really
Speaker 1: fun watch to watch that guy go out there. It's
Speaker 1: always fun to watch those smaller school guys get out
Speaker 1: there and play against that competition and then make the
Speaker 1: next step up to the bigger competition once they get
Speaker 1: into the All Star Games, the Scouting Combine, and eventually
Speaker 1: of course the NFL. And that's how I out for
Speaker 1: you guys on that front. And normally this is where
Speaker 1: we'd end the podcast, but now I'm not leaving. I'm
Speaker 1: staying here with you guys because we have an interview
Speaker 1: with Kyle Crabs. We did the defensive side of the
Speaker 1: ball mostly on this podcast, but I want to go
Speaker 1: back to that Crabs interview. He of course works for
Speaker 1: the Draft Network, and we discussed the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football this week here in indeed, we're here with
Speaker 1: Kyle Crabs of the Draft Network talking about all things
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Scouting Combine. And first, Kyle, what I want to
Speaker 1: ask you is this class is known for its depth
Speaker 1: this year so far, and you've been doing this for
Speaker 1: about seven years now, and your and your estimation is
Speaker 1: this the deepest class you've seen since you've been doing this.
Speaker 1: My first class doing this was in two thousand and fourteen,
Speaker 1: so seventh draft class and far and away, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the talent that you're gonna be seeing at the end
Speaker 1: of the top one picks at the end of Day
Speaker 1: two this year is talent that you would typically be
Speaker 1: seeing almost a full round earlier in an average class.
Speaker 1: So as I've been stacking grades for player assessments, it's
Speaker 1: become really clear that it's a great year to have
Speaker 1: a lot of picks, which is exactly what the Dolphins
Speaker 1: have in this situation. And the Dolphins are absolutely low
Speaker 1: with picks, six picks in the top seventy five of
Speaker 1: this year's class. And we'd be remissed if we didn't
Speaker 1: talk more about the quarterbacks. Kyle. That's kind of the buzzy,
Speaker 1: the buzzy phrase, the buzzy topic every time, every year,
Speaker 1: this time of year, and especially this year for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: What are some of the takeaways you've had this week
Speaker 1: so far with the quarterbacks that I have have spoken behind
Speaker 1: us here at the podiums, and kind of what the
Speaker 1: general feel is about how they've performed so far and
Speaker 1: their media availabilities. Sure through the media availability and even
Speaker 1: going back to the Senior Bowl in January, you're starting
Speaker 1: to see a divide with the top three, with Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow kind of being regarded as the pencil in number
Speaker 1: one overall selection to a tongue of iola. Having a
Speaker 1: promising set of medical feedbacks early this week is huge
Speaker 1: for him. It's really gonna help teams like the Dolphins
Speaker 1: that have been attached to him for a really long time.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert had a strong Senior Bowl performance, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the whispers that you're hearing this week indicate
Speaker 1: that a lot of the leadership concerns that we're there
Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert had been alleviated with the way that
Speaker 1: he's tackled this pre draft process for him, whereas Utah
Speaker 1: stage Jordan Love is kind of falling off the pace
Speaker 1: a little bit. You've got a big three in the
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, You've got a lot of quarterback hungry needs
Speaker 1: in the top ten. So it's gonna be an interesting
Speaker 1: situation to watch unfold from here and the players that
Speaker 1: play behind the quarterbacks, the tailbacks in this class. Another
Speaker 1: deep class this season going into the draft coming up
Speaker 1: at the end of April, and one of the things
Speaker 1: that we look for the most with running backs, and
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift saut it himself possibly the top back off
Speaker 1: the board this year, was that the thing that sets
Speaker 1: him apart from the rest of the class is his versatility.
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, are there some backs in
Speaker 1: this class that offer some versatility in your opinion, that
Speaker 1: could possibly give a team like Miami, for instance, a
Speaker 1: lot in the passing game, the running game, and all
Speaker 1: three phases. Yeah, for sure. I think you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a comparable player for DeAndre Swift later in the draft.
Speaker 1: And people talk about the valuation of running backs and
Speaker 1: that dilemma of where do you invest in one and
Speaker 1: then once you have veteran ones, what they're worth to pay.
Speaker 1: I look at guys like Cam Akers from Florida State
Speaker 1: and J. K. Dobbins and Edwards Hilaire, and these guys
Speaker 1: are all physical runners and they all contribute in the
Speaker 1: pass game, whether it's as a receiver. I really like
Speaker 1: what cam Akers brings as a pass blocker as well,
Speaker 1: and pass blocking a lot of times is what you
Speaker 1: see be a critical air that keeps backs off the
Speaker 1: field early on in their pro careers. I think we
Speaker 1: have five six seven potential backs as potential top one selections,
Speaker 1: and because of the valuation of the position and because
Speaker 1: of the depth of the rest of the class, you
Speaker 1: could see a domino effect where these guys end up
Speaker 1: lingering closer towards fifty six or potentially seventy. And the
Speaker 1: guys blocking for those tailbacks, of course, are the offensive
Speaker 1: lineman and they had a chance to speak to us
Speaker 1: here earlier today at the scouting combine. And this tackle
Speaker 1: class is one of the deepest we've seen in some time.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of questions about who might kick
Speaker 1: inside the guard, who can play the left and right side.
Speaker 1: But as far as how many first round tackles, how
Speaker 1: many do you think we could get come to draft
Speaker 1: in April, I think you'll see up the six potentially
Speaker 1: the big four Jeddrick Rules of Alabama, McKay backed In
Speaker 1: from Louisville, Trystan Worths of Iowa, and Andrew Thomas of Georgia.
Speaker 1: Those guys, in my opinion, in are all locks for
Speaker 1: the top twenty. The question is for Miami, will you
Speaker 1: see him? That's yet to be determined. I think McKay
Speaker 1: Beckton from Louisville is the big Riser, and I think
Speaker 1: the New York Giants are going to be attached to
Speaker 1: him a lot in the coming weeks because of his
Speaker 1: powerful style of play and the brand of football that
Speaker 1: the Giants are looking to instill, which then in turn
Speaker 1: gives the Dolphins a chance to potentially see who else
Speaker 1: might be sliding into the teens come draft weekend. But
Speaker 1: four top twenty in my opinion, is a lock. You
Speaker 1: could see up to two more with Josh Jones and
Speaker 1: potentially Austin Jackson from USC. And we'll wrap this up
Speaker 1: here with possibly the deepest position in the draft in
Speaker 1: a class that Kyle mentions is one of the deepest
Speaker 1: draft classes, the deepest he scene in his seven years
Speaker 1: with the receiver position, and Daniel Jeremiah had something like
Speaker 1: twenty three receivers with a top three round grade. Who
Speaker 1: are some possible Day three type of sleepers that maybe
Speaker 1: could fit in as a slot receiver on the outside.
Speaker 1: Just talk about some of the depth at the class
Speaker 1: this year at wide receiver. Yeah, it's interesting because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different stylistic player. There's big slots, they're short,
Speaker 1: twitchy guys, really polished route runners and without getting specifically
Speaker 1: into some of these names. Guys like Daniel Jeremiah said,
Speaker 1: the top selections are gonna be there early in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. So the Dolphins, you know, as they think
Speaker 1: about what this wide receiver room looks like, they'll have
Speaker 1: a chance no matter what style of a player that
Speaker 1: they want to attack, whether it's a twitchy guy or
Speaker 1: a big guy that has size and catch radis, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be options there in the fourth round and later
Speaker 1: that in an average class, again, you wouldn't get thanks
Speaker 1: to the depth, and it certainly is a great class
Speaker 1: to have plenty of draft picks. We know the Dolphins
Speaker 1: have plenty of draft picks in their war chest right
Speaker 1: now heading into April's draft, and that's gonna be just
Speaker 1: about a rap here from Indianapolis. On the podcast, we
Speaker 1: do have some interviews with cornerbacks and safeties on Friday.
Speaker 1: We'll probably get some audio from that on the podcast
Speaker 1: next week. But to wrap up this edition this week
Speaker 1: of the Drivetime Podcast, I want to just kind of
Speaker 1: reflect on the week that was here in indian Polis,
Speaker 1: starting off the first night I got here. Kevin Dern
Speaker 1: at Kevin m D four. You guys all know who
Speaker 1: he is, my original co host on the Analysis podcast
Speaker 1: way back in, took me out to St. Elmo's and
Speaker 1: not much of a shrimp cocktail guy, and especially not
Speaker 1: the cocktail sauce aspect of it, but my goodness, that
Speaker 1: thing is incredible, even though it knocks you on your
Speaker 1: backside with how spicy and how hot it is up
Speaker 1: in your sinuses. And I got here in Indianapolis with
Speaker 1: a bit of a cold and it cleared how my
Speaker 1: shinence has completely. That was delicious. But even as good
Speaker 1: as that was, it paled in comparison to the Filet
Speaker 1: Mignon and the Johnny Walker Blue. And the reason I
Speaker 1: had the Johnny Walker Blue. I'm not gonna sit here
Speaker 1: in act like I drink out all the time. keV
Speaker 1: lost a bet and paid me and Johnny Walker Blue,
Speaker 1: so we are not quite that high society. One of
Speaker 1: the best moments for me this week running into Peter
Speaker 1: Schreeger on the NFL network set. Just went by and
Speaker 1: introduced myself, and he was just as nice and gracious
Speaker 1: as could be, and we ended the conversation by him saying,
Speaker 1: we gotta get you on the show because I told
Speaker 1: him how much I love Good Morning Football, so hopefully
Speaker 1: that happens in the near future. But above everything this week,
Speaker 1: of all the people I ran into, all the people
Speaker 1: I met, all the great content, a huge thanks to
Speaker 1: everybody here in this organization. Fans don't get to see
Speaker 1: all the hard work that goes on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: I mentioned Trey earlier, Jeff and Luke on the audio side,
Speaker 1: Eric Stewart, Laura Vanessa, and the social and marketing team,
Speaker 1: Matt and Brett, of course coach Flow and Chris. I
Speaker 1: know I'm forgetting plenty of names here, but everything we
Speaker 1: do as a team effort, and I'm so grateful to
Speaker 1: be part of the best team in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: But that is going to be my time on this
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