WEBVTT - Jim Nagy, Pete Prisco, Kyle Crabbs | Combine Day 4 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:07.200 Practice Rolphs, Patrick throwing Huown. What a win for this 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:12.559 Miami Dolphin team. Wow? What is up? Dolphins? And welcome 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.760 to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:20.439 official podcast network covering your Miami Dolphins. I am your host, 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.439 Travis Wingfield, here to bring you your daily dose of 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.000 Miami Dolphins football and we are back for another show 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.760 live from Indianapolis. It was the defensive players that took 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.600 to the podium Thursday in Indie. We'll get you some 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.519 quotes from the linemen and the linebackers, including effusive praise 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.760 for Dolphins new linebacker coach Anthony Campanelli. But we'll also 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.320 go backwards and check in with Kyle Crabs from the 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.000 Draft Network to get his thoughts on the best prospects 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.120 on offense. We'll chat with Pete Prisco of CBS Sports 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.920 HQ and Jim Naggy, the executive director of the Senior Bowl. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:58.160 All of that and more on this Friday, February edition 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.200 of the Drivetime Podcast. And the beautiful part about this 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.000 edition of the Drive Time Podcast is that most of 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.560 the work has already done for us being down in 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.800 the scrum on Thursday. It was a busy busy morning 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.600 for myself and the audio video team. Shout out to 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.680 Trey Freeman for following me around down there and getting 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.160 us all this great content. We spoke to a lot 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.679 of players, several analysts. We almost nabbed Brady Quinn, but 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.440 that guy was doing radio and stepping down for live 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.280 hits on the commercial breaks, so he would spread pretty thin. 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.920 But that's okay because we've got plenty of great sound 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.319 bites for you guys, and we'll start here with this 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.720 one from Pete Prisco of CBS Sports HQ. Alright, we're 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.840 here with Pete Prisco, CBS Sports HQ. Pete, how's your 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.520 week going so far? It's good. Uh, this is a 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.960 long week. It's fun. Combines changed as I first started 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.400 coming here. We used to have about twenty reporters in 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.320 a building over there and we brought players out and 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:50.640 we talked to him. That's how they do. And now 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.880 look at this. What's what's the biggest change for you 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.680 as far as the schedule goes on field work out 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.280 some of them maybe the pre draft or the pre 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.559 combined meetings. Well, I think it's um taking a little 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.440 chunk out of the nightlife and talking to guys out 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.400 at the bars. You know how we used to always 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.520 go out and you see guys and coaches. It's not 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.800 as many of them out now with the way the 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.960 schedule is, and I imagine it's going to get even 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.880 tighter in the next couple of days. In your opinion, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.440 what's the true strength of this year's draft class? I 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.560 think the wide receiver group is outstanding. I mean there's 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.280 a ton of guys. You start with the best guys, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.840 you know, Jared Judy and Cede Lamb. I think when 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.040 you look at that group there, they're the best, but 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.360 there's about ten, twelve, thirteen, fifteen guys that are gonna 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.000 be good players in this league. So that's the biggest 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.080 strength of this draft. But I also think if you're 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.600 looking for an offensive tackle, there's five guys that will 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.320 probably go in the first round and they're all really 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.080 good players. So I think that's the strength of draft. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.560 We've heard from several draft analysts this might be one 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.400 of the deeper classes we've seen in some time. A 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.440 good year to have four team picks, as the Dolphins do. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.000 Would you agree with that sentiment. I think the Dolphins 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.079 are in a great situation I've said that all along. Uh. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.640 In fact, Brady Quinny we were just talking to over there. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.480 We've had arguments about it. I said, make me the 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.600 GM of the Dolphins. I'll fix that thing. They got money, 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.560 they got cap room, and they have of picks. Is 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.200 this is going to be a quick turnaround in Miami? 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.240 How much do you think there is pressure on the 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.200 Dolphins maybe make a move in the draft at some point, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.960 maybe go get that quarterback of the future. Well, I 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.079 don't know if that's necessarily the case. I mean, we 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.200 got to see how to it checks out in terms 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.480 of his medical where he is. Uh, from that standpoint, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.600 what's the hip recovery because he might have to who 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:21.920 knows he might have to miss some time. You know, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.639 he says he's getting clear, but we don't know how 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.440 many teams cleared him, how many didn't. If he's there 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.560 and they have the conviction on him, don't mess it up. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.160 If you really believe it, go up and get him. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.200 But you know, we don't know because until we get 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.320 the medical clearance on him, I'll have no idea. And 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.000 how would you stack those quarterbacks at the top of 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.920 the class this season? This year? I think it's borrow 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.240 number one to a number two, probably Herbert number three, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.520 Love number four, I think, you know, and then you'll 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.960 see how Easton I want to see how he throws, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.440 and then maybe from but I think that's pretty standard one. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.839 On the defensive side of the ball, Isaiah Simmons talked 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.200 earlier today, probably the most first of a player to 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.160 come out in sometime. Who are some other guys that 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.400 really offer a lot of fatility for your defensive side 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:02.920 of the football. I think you got to look at 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.320 the safety position. I mean the way the game is 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.680 played now, the safety can play like a buck linebacker 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.760 in certain situations. So like Xavier McKinney from Alabama is 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.200 a guy you if you're looking for safety help, you 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.840 want that kind of guy. I mean delpit he didn't 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.320 tackle last year. That's a concern of mine. But those 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.400 are the kind of guys that can drop down and 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.120 then along the defensive line. There are a lot of 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.240 guy in Marlon Davidson, he can play defensive end. He 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.240 can I think he can move inside and play, you know, 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.840 as a pass rusher and passing situations. From Auburn, I 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:31.560 think he's a guy to keep an eye on. And 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.479 last question for you here, what's the number one thing 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.440 you can take away from this week in Indianapolis. Whether 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.800 it's an executive, a scout, a head coach, what's the 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.120 top thing you're looking to accomplish Indianapolis. I think this 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.600 is all about the quarterbacks, the quarterback carousel. Where's it go? 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.039 Where's Tom Brady going? You know, you talked to people 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.479 that say that Tampa's in play for him and will 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.920 he go there? Uh? You know, where's Rivers going? Is 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.279 he coming to here to Indianapolis? And then how the 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.279 rest of the dominoes all fall? Where's Teddy Bridge? We're 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.520 gonna wind up? He's a Miami kid. Where's he wind up? So? 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.720 I think the quarterback carousel is the most important thing. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.880 Pete Risco, CBS Sports HQ, thank you. So some adamant 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.440 praise there from Prisco by the Dolphins front office for 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.880 the work they did to get the Dolphins into this 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.440 position and where they are with all the picks and 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.919 all the cap space they have available to them. And 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.880 the driver of the bus was, of course, general manager 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.760 Chris Greer. And Greer appeared on the Move the Sticks 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.320 podcast on Tuesday with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks, and 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.560 he had some great quotes in that podcast with some 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.159 nice transparency for the guys at MTS. Bucky Brooks asked 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.240 him about how he balances the difference between the tape 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.000 and the combine, and Greer said, quote, the tape is 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.800 the majority of it. With the combined players can kind 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.520 of fake it. You're going to have to spend some 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.040 time outside of the setting because everything is so rehearsed 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.360 and coached for these guys now, and that's the hard 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.160 part of trying to get to know who they are 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.839 and quote. They then asked him a question about the 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.800 collaboration between the front office and the coaching staff. You've 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.080 heard Chris Greer say before that he wants to be 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.640 on the same page as Brian Flores, and Brian Flores 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.920 even said he wouldn't have to can this job last 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.599 season if he wasn't on the exact same page as 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.960 everybody in that building. So it is a massive collaboration 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.120 here in Miami, and Greer said, quote, it's imperative. The 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.680 communication has to be on the same page or you've 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.440 got no chance. It's a lot of time with Brian Flores, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.360 the coaching staff and the scouts making sure that whether 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.120 it's prototypes or scheme specific stuff that at the end 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.000 of the day, it's all about communication and really spending 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.320 time talking through things. You'll always see talented players, but 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.520 sometimes they may not fit what you want, whether it's mentally, 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.919 character wise, etcetera. Talking through all that stuff, that's the 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.480 only way teams win and find good players. And we 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.960 spend a lot of time doing that end quote. And 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.720 of course by now we all know that versatility has 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.200 become commonplace in today's league, and Grier mentioned it himself 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:46.960 that the league is no longer like it was in 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.839 the past when you had a fullback on first and 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.480 second down, then when you got stuck in third and long, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.800 you bring the third receiver onto the field. So when 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.240 he was asked about that career said, quote, it's a 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.320 huge part of the game. A big thing is for 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.160 your roster to it allows you to keep players at 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.799 other positions or do things because you have a guy 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.200 that can play guard and center, for instance, or a 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.000 cornerback that can play safety. Eric Road to that for 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.560 us last year, it's finding guys like that because the 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.120 game has changed so much, it's spread out. I think 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.840 teams aren't finding ways to spread teams out and do things. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.120 You have to adjust and be able to find ways 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.640 to counter it. End quote. So Greer crushing it and 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.280 Brian Flora's he too is crushing it. And we'll get 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.720 to Kyle Crabs from the Draft Network here in just 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.600 one moment. But I also had a chance to do 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.920 a walk and talk with he and ESPNS Cameron Wolf, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.680 and we were talking about how great Flora's as presser 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.320 was back on Tuesday, and Cam, of course, being a 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.640 veteran here on the dolphin scene, mentioned and even more 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.680 confident Flora's this year. Last year, it was all kind 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.640 of a worldwin for him coming to Indianapolis, which really 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.440 just makes the job he did even more commendable. You've 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.720 got to remember he won a Super Bowl and then 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.280 was announced the very next day in Miami with no 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.720 sleep to speak of. He had to assemble an entire 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.200 coaching staff and get out here to Indianapolis with all 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.120 their scouting notes in just a three week stretch. And 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.680 the job he did last year, of course, finishing with 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.760 five wins in the final nine games, has certainly earned 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.880 him unanimous praise across the League, and especially from his 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.440 former co worker and current executive director of the Senior Bowl, 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.760 Jim Naggy. All right, we're here with Jim Naggy, the 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.760 director of the Reese's Senior Bowl. Jim, First of all, 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.600 I want to congratulate on the success of that game, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.640 which have taken off the last couple of years. Thanks. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.080 I appreciate it. Um. Yeah, we're working hard and we're 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.680 doing it for the NFL teams. I mean, the main 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.000 goal is to get good rosters for those guys. And 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.000 it's fun to see our guys get drafted and all that, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.920 and that helps us recruit players for the next year. 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.040 But you know that the most rewarding thing is having 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.439 the guys that come into Indie here and having having 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.520 your your buddies from the league tell you, you know, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.240 the players were the good rosters and everything. So we're 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.160 happy about it. Well, we gotta keep getting better. And 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.040 one of those buddies, of course, Brian Floors, the head 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.160 coach of the Miami Dolphins. You worked with him pack 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:53.960 back with the time of the Patriots. I just want 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.040 to get your kind of feeling about how happy you 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.120 are for him in the success he had late this year, 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.720 winning five of the final nine games with Dolf. Yeah, 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.280 I mean yeah, you're always happy for your friends when 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.000 you see him do well. And it's no surprise. And 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.240 I wasn't shy about it last year when they when 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.520 they hired Brian, I thought it was a great higher 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:10.920 and so to see how they ended up the year 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.600 and then and then that win in New England to 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.760 end the year, you know, back against the Patriots where 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.360 he spent so much time, it was awesome. He's got 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.920 that thing going in the right direction, for sure. I'd 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.439 be very missf. I didn't ask you, is there any 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.040 kind of behind the scenes scouting story you can give 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.040 us about your time with the Patriots and with Brian 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.000 Flowers when you guys are on the road together, anything 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.800 like that. We were never on the road together because 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.640 Brian was a scouting assistant and I was I think 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.800 I was in the Midwest at that time scouting. But no, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.440 I just remember a guy that he just worked his 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.240 tail off, you know, and he was the same guy 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.679 all the time, and he just that was a pretty 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.240 intense building um back then and it probably still is. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.520 But to have people like Brian and made it a 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.080 great place to work. He's the best. And as a scout, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.920 what's the number one thing that you can accomplish here 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.160 this week? Looking at all these players, going through the media, 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.600 going through all the poking and prodding on field drills, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.360 what is the scout looking to take away number one 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.000 this week here in India? I think it helps you 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.120 check yourself, you know, in a lot of different areas. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.480 So whether it's something testing wise or you know, the 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.640 other day everyone made the big deal about Joe Burrow's 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.520 hand size, and all it is is just to make 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.160 you go back and maybe maybe check yourself. So with 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.040 Joe's hands aze, you go back and you pull up 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.840 l s U tape of of a bad Weather game 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.640 you know we're too bad weather. Can see how he 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.760 controlled the ball and if it looked any different, And 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.199 that's all you're trying to get at. If a guy 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.679 runs a slower forty time than maybe you thought he played, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.000 we'll go back to the tape and check your eyes again. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.520 Is he you know, does the speed deficiency show up? 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.400 Or or is it? Or was I good the first 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.079 time when I graded him? So yeah, it's just kind 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.360 of a easy way to check yourself. And as a 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.840 Michigan alumni. The Dolphins just hired linebackers coach Anthony Campanelli 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.600 to the coaching staff. What can you tell us about 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.480 coach Campanelli and who is the best Michigan prospect here 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.560 this week in India. Oh, that's a good question. I'm 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.040 not really familiar with coach, so I can't comment too 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.840 too much on him, but best Michigan prospect and they 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.400 have eleven UM so I think they have the second most. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.640 I think josh j is really good the linebacker. He 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.640 was in Mobile for the Senior Bowl. I actually thought 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.960 after Javon Kinlaw, who was out after two days of practice, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.640 who was phenomenal for two days of practice, But after Javon, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.560 I thought josh Cha had all he had the best 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.960 week of any defensive player. You know, he's not the 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.439 tallest linebacker. He's only six wanting change, but he's got 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.280 almost thirty four inch arms, so he plays long um 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.040 and he can play off the ball. He's showed Mobile. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.520 He can cover. I mean he can run with tight 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.880 ends and backs, and then he can be the most important. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.240 He can rush the passer. For a guy with that length, 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.520 he's got really explosive hands. I mean, when he gets 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.160 his hands on you, you see guys get jolted. So 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.439 he's got a really nice pass rush game. I think 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.320 that's gonna transition really fast in the pros and then 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.360 and now that teams have seen him cover more like 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.640 he did in mobile. Um, he's gonna be a really 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.600 good player for somebody. Great, Jim, appreciate it. Yeah, thanks, Grass, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.000 And you heard Jim talking, of course about Josh. You 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.120 j there at the end of that interview one of 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.920 the players that I caught up with on the floor 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.439 Thursday and asked him about his college coach, Anthony Campanelli, 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.720 who of course is now the linebackers coach here in Miami. Listen, in, Josh, 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.199 your position coach in Michigan, Anthony Campanelli is now with 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.719 the Dolphins. What can you say about your time with 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.679 him in Michigan. It's one of the greatest guys I've 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.600 ever met. You know, it's a really good person. He 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.600 coasted the game the ways supposed be coasting, cares about 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.640 his guys, and he's just a he's a great person. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.240 And what you can't see on that sound clip is 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.360 before I even finished asking the question, you had a 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.760 big smile on his face. From ear to ear, you 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.960 can tell there's a genuine love there between he and 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.360 his coach. Another favorite SoundBite of mine was from Utah's 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.800 Bradley and I, who first talked about swimming with sharks, Yes, 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.719 sharks voluntarily something you'll never see me do. I can 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.280 guarantee you that. But I asked an I about his 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.800 time at Utah and playing for Kyle Whittingham and the 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.880 fact that Utah has nine players here in Indie, and 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.920 what Whittingham and that program did to prepare guys for 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.960 the next level at the NFL. Proudly, you've got nine 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.920 teammates here at the scouting combine. What can you say 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.280 about Kyle Whittingham and the Utah program? What kind of 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.560 did to prepare you for the next step? Um, it's 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:55.640 just pretty much an NFL rum system they have at Utah. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.640 Being being to meet his five minutes early, Just little 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.319 things like that. It's UM taught their Utah accountability and 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:11.080 responsibility on and off fulfill Uh. It's just feel very 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.520 very well read, especially from the head coaching staff point, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.040 and it just gets you ready and gets your prepared 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.320 for the next lot. We don't want to expect And 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.440 as you can tell, I was asking all the Utah 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.960 players that question because of the respect that Winningham has 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.000 across college football. And so I asked Leaky a similar 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.360 question to what I asked Bradley. And I think you 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.199 got a lot of your teammates here in testament to 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.520 Kyle Winningham in the program there at Utah. What are 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.120 some of the things you took away from Kyle and 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.199 the program in Utah? UM, I think that the main 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.199 thing that I take it from the program quotes with UM, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.520 it's just understanding my role, um as a player. And 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.559 you know, for us to be here, uh buying the 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.479 list together, UM, this is a you set them into 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.040 the program and coaches with with what he's done at 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.920 the program for us, and it just shows how we can, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.920 you know, develop as players and uh coming in you know, 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:14.000 with not many you know stars, I guess high school 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.600 and uh, you know developed where we're at right now, 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.160 at the highest level, Uh that we could be hanging now. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.640 And when he walked off the set, that guy towered 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.720 over me and everybody else in that room for the 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.720 most part. And let's be real, most of the guys 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.880 out here do tower over people. And at the defensive 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.480 edge position. I wasn't able to get a question into 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.280 Chase Young because the crowd gathered a half an hour 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.880 before he spoke, and it just got massive and massive, 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.400 And rather than waiting for one question for Chase Young, 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.520 I decided to go around and get more questions from 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.360 other folks, like the next best edge on the Draft 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.240 Networks list of edge players behind Chase Young a j 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.560 Epanessa of Iowa and so with seven sacks in the 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.760 final three games of the season, I asked Epanessa about 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.800 his production spike towards the end of the season. Did 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.960 you your production took off late in the season this year? 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.960 What was the difference between September October than transitioning into November? Um? 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.040 I was. I was transitioning learning kind of take on 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.040 those double teams and ships, um, and all those different 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:13.760 kind of blocks. And as the season went on, you 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.600 could tell I started getting better at it and I 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.320 started being able to be more productive. Um. But it 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.640 just kind of came with me learning how to to 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.720 counteract those kind of blocks. Yesterday you heard me talk 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.720 to Charlie Casserley about McKay Beckton, one of the top 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.000 offensive tackle prospects in this year's draft, and I believe 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.120 the number three overall player on the Draft Networks big board. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.280 And one of my favorite questions to ask in this 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.720 process is to get the players feel for who the 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.360 best guy they faced that season, because that gives us 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.360 a better feel for what that draft prospect can do 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.120 across from those guys. So I talked to college Kareem 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.480 about who the best player he faced this season on 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.880 the offensive line was. Who's toughest guy he went up 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.800 against last season? What kind of challenge do you provide 0:15:53.800 --> 0:16:01.640 for you and just try give you on that was 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.000 pretty tough? Who was pretty for a prety big? It 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.120 was an athletic to decent foot wards Jone. There was 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:09.880 it about your dame that's as you apart from the 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.160 pass mushers out here. Um, I feel like I'm every 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.360 down player. I didn't stop the running first second down 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.480 by still still until the third down, you know, passing 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.360 that way. See hear him talk about being an every 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.440 down player, three down guy, both pass rusher and run defender. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.680 So I asked him what was his best position that 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.880 he plays across the defensive line, because you can play 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.560 anywhere from zero technique over the nose all the way 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.880 out to the wide nine technique, which you recall was 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.640 one of Cam wakes specialties, and then incredible get off 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.920 and speed rush that Cam Wake had off the edge. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.280 Here was Khalid's answer to what position he prefers most 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.640 along the defensive line, playing a variety of positions across 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.880 the new or damn defensive line, which technique is your 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.800 favorite to rush from? Probably your five or nine. And 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:50.960 to go back to the versatile players we talked about 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.200 in the earlier segment with the Chris Greer hit on 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.520 the Move the Sticks podcast, I stopped by Anthony Jennings podium, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.920 the Alabama outside linebacker slash edge player, and asked him 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.040 what it was like playing at Alabama and how that 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.359 might have prepared him to play at the next level. Anthony, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.000 A lot of Alabama players say that practices in college 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.000 are harder than they are in the NFL. How does 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.760 playing there prepare you for the next level? I hope 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.360 you would prepare me. Well, you know, I ain't really 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:19.000 uh done NFL yet, but you know, uh just every 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.160 day comes showing over having to be your best because 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.639 of the competition level being so high. You know, you 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:25.920 just come out there and have to go to work 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.879 every each and every day. Uh, you know, just farting 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.720 in love with the ground, farting in love with football, 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.520 and you just trying to be the best visited each 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.480 and every day. You know how much we love each 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.080 and every day here on this podcast, We absolutely love 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.200 the grind. And one guy that grinded his way through 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.360 college was Baylor's defensive end James Lynch. I asked him 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.679 what his favorite position was and his best move to 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.639