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Speaker 2: What do we have, Crystal, Huge breaking news this morning
Speaker 2: here and abroad. So Israel has resumed their all out
Speaker 2: assault on Gaza. Really one of the deadliest days that
Speaker 2: we've seen in quite a long time. So that ceasefire
Speaker 2: is completely gone. It had been you know, had already
Speaker 2: sort of been broken, but now it is just all
Speaker 2: out and salt back on. So we'll break all of
Speaker 2: that down for you. Also, Trump now sort of threatening
Speaker 2: war with Iran. So another significant development there, we had
Speaker 2: updates with regard to the courts and Trump's invocation of
Speaker 2: the Alien Enemies Act. We've got updated news with regard
Speaker 2: to the economy, consumer sentiment in particular falling off cliff
Speaker 2: the DOGE people led by Elon really taking acts to
Speaker 2: Social Security and new memo leaked revealing the details of
Speaker 2: their plans there. And Chuck Schumer canceling his planned book
Speaker 2: tour on his book Anti Semitism because of quote unquote
Speaker 2: security concerns after there is a fierce democratic backlash to
Speaker 2: his decision to cave to the Republicans.
Speaker 1: And the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: So interesting domestic political moves there.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he's got security concerns now for a forty
Speaker 1: five day book tour, long planned tickets were all sold
Speaker 1: highly secured environment.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the first one was supposed to
Speaker 2: be with Richie Torres. What a shame, so good, What
Speaker 2: a shame that people will miss dount on that.
Speaker 1: All right, hard turn here. We've got some very very
Speaker 1: terrible developments overnight in Israel, And let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: put some of this up on the screen and I
Speaker 1: will narrate over it. So there's military operations resuming late
Speaker 1: last night Eastern time in the United States. You can
Speaker 1: just see lots of scenes of panic. Israeli military jets
Speaker 1: basically bombarding both the north and south of Gaza. There's
Speaker 1: a mass panic inside of the Gaza Strip. It appears
Speaker 1: to have caught everybody kind of a little bit off guard.
Speaker 1: There was some knowledge that military operations would resume at
Speaker 1: some point, but the collapse of the ceasefire happened incredibly rapidly,
Speaker 1: and the resumption of military operations as well basically caught
Speaker 1: everybody surprise, except for the United States. Let's put this
Speaker 1: up there on the screen. Drop Side News Ryan Grim
Speaker 1: outlet has here some reports from on the ground in Gaza.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind that that number up there is outdated.
Speaker 1: It appears to got three or four hundred people now
Speaker 1: who have been killed inside of the Gaza Strip. It's
Speaker 1: apparently one of the deadliest days since twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: And the resumption of bombing there in October. The October
Speaker 1: seventh attacks, Drop site contributor Abu Baker Abed reports quote
Speaker 1: is really shelling and bombardments have intensified in Dar Alballa
Speaker 1: and central Gaza. Talks advancing further east and tanks advancing
Speaker 1: for the reason heavy shelling in the area ahead of them. Quote,
Speaker 1: I can't stop hearing air strikes and I can't stop
Speaker 1: hearing shells. It is horrifying and unbearable. It is absolutely unbearable.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one, police, and we will
Speaker 1: show you here. From the Israeli Prime Minister's office, Benjamin
Speaker 1: Netanyahu and the Israeli Defense Minister Israel Kotts have instructed
Speaker 1: the military to take forceful action against Hamas in the
Speaker 1: Gaza Strip. Drop Site notes medical sources in North Gaza
Speaker 1: have confirmed to drop Site that area bombardments are being
Speaker 1: heard across the entire strip from north south everywhere, literally everywhere. Now,
Speaker 1: do make sure that you know that this was not
Speaker 1: Israel acting outside of the approval of the United States
Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt on the airwaves yesterday
Speaker 1: to make that clear. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3: Trump administration and the White House were consulted by the
Speaker 3: Israelis on their attacks in Gaza tonight. And as President
Speaker 3: Trump has made it clear, Hamas the houthis Iran. All
Speaker 3: those who seek to terrorize not just Israel, but also
Speaker 3: the United States of America will see a price to pay,
Speaker 3: all hell will break loose, and all of the terrorists
Speaker 3: in the Middle East again, the Huthis, Hesbla Hamas, Iranian
Speaker 3: backed terror proxies, and Iran themselves should take President Trump
Speaker 3: very seriously when he says he is not afraid to
Speaker 3: stand for law abiding people. He is not afraid to
Speaker 3: stand up for the United States of America and our
Speaker 3: friend and our ally Israel. And we know that these
Speaker 3: successful defensive strikes that took place over the weekend against
Speaker 3: the Houthis in the Red Sea were indeed successful. We
Speaker 3: took out some of their leaders, and the Defense Department
Speaker 3: is continued to contin is set to content continue with
Speaker 3: this campaign if the Hohothies continue with their retaliatory measures.
Speaker 3: The President is going to stand for the navigation freedom
Speaker 3: of navigation of our seas, which is a very basic
Speaker 3: principle that unfortunately the previous administration refused to stand for,
Speaker 3: and that's why we are in this mess in the
Speaker 3: Middle East in the first place. President Trump inherited a
Speaker 3: lot of problems Sewan because of the incompetence and the
Speaker 3: weakness of the Biden Harris administration, but he is focused
Speaker 3: on fixing them and our allies and our adversaries better
Speaker 3: take him seriously.
Speaker 1: So you can see. It's pretty and clear that they
Speaker 1: consulted there with the United States, and I think this
Speaker 1: is a major turning point for the Trump administration. We
Speaker 1: were on a decent enough path. We had a fifty
Speaker 1: day cease fire, which was extremely you know, I think
Speaker 1: good for people in Israel, for people in Gaza. There
Speaker 1: was some hope for the hostages. Our Griffin Davis spoke
Speaker 1: with one of the family of those hostage. They were
Speaker 1: very helpful with the talks of Boehler and Steve Witkoff. However,
Speaker 1: the Israeli government basically made it clear from day one
Speaker 1: that they had no interest in transition to some sort
Speaker 1: of Phase two deal. I think the straw that broke
Speaker 1: the camel's back was Adam Bohler's direct talks with Hamas
Speaker 1: and his sidelining. It was just clear that there are
Speaker 1: elements here in the United States government that simply cannot
Speaker 1: countenance any sort of genuine diplomatic solution, and without that,
Speaker 1: an Israeli government and military which is hell bent on
Speaker 1: just continuing the war basically forever. They don't believe in
Speaker 1: not only the possibility or the necessity or a want
Speaker 1: of a permanent ceasefire and or a release of the
Speaker 1: remaining hostages. This is the most beneficial outcome to them,
Speaker 1: and we are now boxed in a very very dangerous
Speaker 1: corner of not only resumption of military force in the
Speaker 1: Gaza Strip, but everything that comes with that geopolitical instability,
Speaker 1: war with Iran possibly which we're going to talk to
Speaker 1: a little bit, the hooties and the Trump administration trying
Speaker 1: to telegraph that they are not afraid of using military strength.
Speaker 1: I mean, the main thing that I just get so
Speaker 1: annoyed by there at the end, she's like Joe Biden
Speaker 1: didn't try to enforce freedom of navigation. Yes, we just
Speaker 1: talked yesterday. We dropped more missiles in the last two
Speaker 1: years than we did in the thirty years prior for Antisia,
Speaker 1: including two wars that we fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm aware that there was not a nable element, but
Speaker 1: the point still stands. Hundreds of millions, if not billions
Speaker 1: of dollars have been spent trying in just the last
Speaker 1: two years to diminish this houthy threat. Turns out the
Speaker 1: only thing that worked was a ceasefire. It was good
Speaker 1: for America, it was good for Israel, and it was
Speaker 1: good for Gaza. But no, you've got elements here which
Speaker 1: just don't want to participate in it. And we're on
Speaker 1: the we're in, you know, on the road show now,
Speaker 1: so everybody buckle up. And it's unfortunate. But I don't
Speaker 1: really see a way out of this for the very
Speaker 1: foreseeable future, except if there is what we can all
Speaker 1: hope is Trump blinks and there's so much instability that
Speaker 1: he has to push back. But even creating and allowing
Speaker 1: the situation in the first place, there's no reason for it. Zero.
Speaker 1: They were on the right track. But as you guys
Speaker 1: can see, you have a member of the US government,
Speaker 1: he goes on Televin's as we're not a client state
Speaker 1: of Israel, basically gets lopped his job entire off the
Speaker 1: next day. So be it not to.
Speaker 2: Mention a story that we never could get to covering,
Speaker 2: even though we had it in the show like four
Speaker 2: different times. But his name is Daniel Davis correct who
Speaker 2: was supposed to be under Tulsi at the DNI in
Speaker 2: a significant position helping to compile the briefings the daily
Speaker 2: briefings of intelligence for the President who had dared to
Speaker 2: be critical of our policy vis A VI Israel and
Speaker 2: critical of the Israeli government, and they also were able
Speaker 2: to keep him from being part of this administration, something
Speaker 2: that our friends over at Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft
Speaker 2: were sounding the alarm about and quite upset about. And
Speaker 2: I just point this out to underscore what Sager is
Speaker 2: saying here that that seems to have been a significant turn.
Speaker 2: There was an opening of like, oh, maybe there will
Speaker 2: be a different approach here. But you know, from the
Speaker 2: beginning there were kind of two different theories of what
Speaker 2: was going on with the ceasefire. One was that Trump
Speaker 2: just basically wanted a win that would to bring to
Speaker 2: his inauguration day so he could say, look at I
Speaker 2: was able to accomplish something that Joe Biden wasn't able
Speaker 2: to accomplish. I was able to get it done before
Speaker 2: or inauguration day even happened. Look at this era of
Speaker 2: peace and prosperity I'm going to bring to the US.
Speaker 2: And that the plan was always like after that, he
Speaker 2: didn't really care what happened. Bbntnaho has from the beginning
Speaker 2: promised his coalition partners who are absolute terrorst psychos, that
Speaker 2: he was going to not move on to phase two.
Speaker 2: His coalition depends on him resuming this war. Not to mention,
Speaker 2: he was scheduled, I believe, literally today to have to
Speaker 2: testify in his own corruption hearing, which has been delayed
Speaker 2: and delayed and delayed because of October seventh and because
Speaker 2: of the war, etc. Et cetera. Well, now guess what
Speaker 2: he gets a delay on that as well. So we
Speaker 2: always knew what net Yahoo wanted to do here, but
Speaker 2: there was an open question. Okay, did Trump just care
Speaker 2: about getting the win for inauguration day or did he
Speaker 2: see this as like a sort of signature achievement part
Speaker 2: of his ego and legacy building that he would want
Speaker 2: to fight and work and use leverage to be able
Speaker 2: to preserve. And at this point I think we have
Speaker 2: our answer that, you know, if he cared about it
Speaker 2: at all, he certainly didn't care about enough to withstand
Speaker 2: the pressures of the you know, significant donors that gave
Speaker 2: to his campaign who you know, we're interested in this.
Speaker 2: There's many hawkish and some you know, some it's not
Speaker 2: about financial some of it's just purely ideological interests. Within
Speaker 2: the Republican Party, the Republican establishment, within his own administration,
Speaker 2: people that he has brought in and elevated within his
Speaker 2: own camp. So, you know, I think, I think at
Speaker 2: this point it is undeniable that he was not willing
Speaker 2: to stand up to the internal political pressure, was not
Speaker 2: willing to use the nearly unlimited leverage that we would
Speaker 2: have to secure a better outcome here, and is happy
Speaker 2: to effectively at this point give Bibe whatever he wants,
Speaker 2: whether it's with regard to this, with regard to the
Speaker 2: hu Thies now threatening war visa vi Iran, and something
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about in a while. You remember Trump
Speaker 2: floated this idea of like, oh, we're just going to
Speaker 2: get rid of the power Palestinians out of the Gaza strip.
Speaker 2: We'll just ethnic cleanse them all together. Well, there was
Speaker 2: reporting recently that Israel in the US were actually talking
Speaker 2: to different African countries about, hey, would you take these
Speaker 2: Palestinians we're about to expel from Gaza. No, both of
Speaker 2: those countries that know We're not willing. But it shows
Speaker 2: you this was more than just a flight of fancy
Speaker 2: or something that he threw out there. This is something
Speaker 2: that they're at least somewhat serious about and actively pursuing
Speaker 2: to see if they could be able to achieve. So
Speaker 2: that's where we are today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have here for dropsite. This was a
Speaker 1: response from hamas Netanyahu and his government resumed their aggression
Speaker 1: in genocidal war against the defensive civilians in Gaza. We
Speaker 1: hold net and Yahoo and the Zionis occupation fully responsible
Speaker 1: for the repercussions of the treacherous aggression. Netanyahu and his
Speaker 1: government have decided to overturn the ceasefire, exposing the prisoners
Speaker 1: in Gaza to an unknown fate. We demand that the
Speaker 1: mediators hold net Yahoo and the Zionist occupation fully responsible
Speaker 1: for violating and for overturning the agreement. So what the
Speaker 1: most responsible, the most the most important thing to take
Speaker 1: away from that is that they have retrenched basically back
Speaker 1: to where we started before the ceasefire. Now, look, it
Speaker 1: is great, you know, we got some hostages out, but
Speaker 1: it's one of those where we're now at a point
Speaker 1: and it's a real jump off point where the collapse
Speaker 1: of the ceasefire, which was basically violated by I mean, look,
Speaker 1: the Israelis obviously violated the ceasefire. They're saying Hamas viola
Speaker 1: of the ceasefire.
Speaker 2: Israel never stopped killing people in Gossen Way, ye, the.
Speaker 1: Lower level they did, you know, cut off electricity, etc.
Speaker 1: They just have never had any interest. The only way
Speaker 1: to do it would be to put significant pressure from
Speaker 1: the United States, which we did to facilitate the very
Speaker 1: first ceasefire. I genuinely I don't think Trump has truth
Speaker 1: feelings about any of this. He wanted to be the
Speaker 1: peacemaker and he really enjoyed the headlines. But you people,
Speaker 1: everyone watching the show, you need to understand the internal
Speaker 1: political pressure that happened from Adam Bohler and from Steve
Speaker 1: Wikoff is unbelievable. I mean, I am in the opening
Speaker 1: days of the administration. If you'll remember, I did multiple
Speaker 1: segments and I was talking about here the Israel lobby
Speaker 1: here in Washington declared war against Steve Wickoff. They're doing
Speaker 1: it now today against Tucker Carlson and any other right
Speaker 1: wing figure. Their current line is that they are bought
Speaker 1: by or by Qatar and by Hamas. Yes, the people
Speaker 1: who are from the Israel lobby are accusing others of
Speaker 1: taking foreign donations. It's just genuinely the most insane thing
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. But this is.
Speaker 2: Reality, a Jewish real estate, real estate Jewish.
Speaker 1: Okay, No, people need to understand that's what counts for
Speaker 1: politics here and here's the thing, guys, it worked. Not
Speaker 1: only did Steve wickcoff, he probably never received more calls
Speaker 1: in his entire life than whenever he facilitated that ceasefire,
Speaker 1: and genuinely, it seemed, wanted to push for Phase two.
Speaker 1: Then Adam Boehler, who again, this is a guy who
Speaker 1: worked for Jared Kushner, this is the guy who helped
Speaker 1: negotiate the Abraham Accords. Do we anyone want to tell
Speaker 1: me that Adam Boehler, who, by the way, I think
Speaker 1: believe is Jewish himself, is some anti semit No, he
Speaker 1: stated the obvious, where I understand why these reel government
Speaker 1: upset We're not a client state of Israel. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: his discussions with Hamas, what else did you say? He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're actually a good guy.
Speaker 2: But he said that he understood that the Israelis were
Speaker 2: afraid that they would meet with them and find like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't have horns growing out of their heads. Maybe
Speaker 2: they're good guys. So he yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, my point, he stated the obvious. That's what you
Speaker 1: do whenever you're trying to facilitate the end of a conflict.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to talk to your enemies, even if you
Speaker 1: don't like them. Yeah, it's sad, Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Welcome to reality. The problem that is for boler is
Speaker 1: what happened. Oh my god, same thing the freak out
Speaker 1: the Jewish insider that we have right now, which is
Speaker 1: basically just a hatchet organization against any America first appointee.
Speaker 1: You have no idea the internal pressure. And I've been trying,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really able to report everything that
Speaker 1: I hear on this, but it is unbelievable the amount
Speaker 1: of of pressure coming from the Adelson organization and the neocons,
Speaker 1: and the breakthrough in the last let's say seventy two
Speaker 1: to ninety six hours has been this houthy stuff where
Speaker 1: Trump at the end of the day is very easily manipulatable.
Speaker 1: So they're like, hey, look they you know this is happening,
Speaker 1: and in his mind he's like, okay, so let's bomb
Speaker 1: them now. You know, he's probably aware. I think that
Speaker 1: bombing the houthies has not worked for ten years. However,
Speaker 1: it's about what strength. They're like, oh, you're going to
Speaker 1: appear weak. That's how they manipulate him. There'll be like, look,
Speaker 1: you're going to appear weak if you don't strike back.
Speaker 1: Then you know, this whole Iran connection is the one
Speaker 1: that is brought in and he's like, well, actually, you
Speaker 1: need to take a step further than Biden and you
Speaker 1: need to threaten the Iranian regime directly. Now, this is
Speaker 1: where it is again preposterous. Does Iran support the houthis? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do they provide them weapons, Absolutely, But by the logic
Speaker 1: of providing weapons to somebody, Russia would be well within
Speaker 1: its rights to bomb US now for giving Ukraine weapons,
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Oh but you're never going to hear that
Speaker 1: one from any of these people. Are they proxies in
Speaker 1: a sense? Yes? Are they totally totally controlled by Tehran? Absolutely? Not.
Speaker 1: Anybody who's familiar with who the organization or with any
Speaker 1: of their development. Many of the Iranians we're not very
Speaker 1: happy about some of the things that were happening over
Speaker 1: the last several years. They still maintain like a connection.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to claim that, but the point beyond
Speaker 1: all this is they think they can just solve this
Speaker 1: by saying, oh, We're gonna bomb Tehran, and they are
Speaker 1: very easily slow walking us into a much worse geopolitical situation.
Speaker 1: There is no reason for us to be so deeply
Speaker 1: enmeshed to be facilitating the removal of Palestinians on behalf
Speaker 1: of the Israeli government or the military. And all this
Speaker 1: does is not only cause suffering, it causes immense problems
Speaker 1: for the United States and the potential of future terrorism
Speaker 1: and so much more so. Yeah, this is my only hope.
Speaker 1: My only hope is that there is at least out
Speaker 1: age pushback, some sort of conflict where we're genuinely on
Speaker 1: the brink where they have to choose. I would hope
Speaker 1: that they choose not to go over that brink. But unfortunately,
Speaker 1: courage is not something that comes readily available in Washington.
Speaker 1: And the path of least resistance for the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: for the Trump administration is let Israelis continue to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll pick you. I don't know, we'll like
Speaker 1: talk out of two sides of our mouth, and we're
Speaker 1: just gonna let them slow walk us into more, more
Speaker 1: and more problems, and you know, America needs to wake up,
Speaker 1: but we're not there yet. We're just not as.
Speaker 2: I also can to divorce it from the domestic political
Speaker 2: climate that they have created. With the absolute crackdown on
Speaker 2: speech around you know, all of the pro Palestine protests,
Speaker 2: taking arresting Maku Khalil for his speech, a legal permanent resident,
Speaker 2: calling him a terrorist, et cetera. It becomes very difficult
Speaker 2: to sustain the thought that anyone who even hosted pro
Speaker 2: Palestine sentiments is a terrorist or supporting terrorism, or people
Speaker 2: who protested in favor of an end to this war
Speaker 2: that you claimed you wanted to stop is pro Hamas
Speaker 2: and is supporting terrorism. While you have your own negotiator
Speaker 2: out there saying, hey, we've got to meet with these guys.
Speaker 2: You know, Israel's not you know, we're not an agent
Speaker 2: of Israel, and they're afraid that we're gonna meet with
Speaker 2: them and find that they're not such bad guys and
Speaker 2: they don't have horns coming out of their head. These
Speaker 2: things become sort of internally unsustainable, and so I think
Speaker 2: you can't divorce this timing of the resumption of all
Speaker 2: on assault in Gaza and giving BB everything he wants
Speaker 2: with regard to that, and the Hothis and Iran with
Speaker 2: the domestic crackdown here as well. You know, these things
Speaker 2: sort of go together hand and glove. With that being sad,
Speaker 2: we've mentioned here a couple of times what the latest
Speaker 2: saber rattling with regard to Iran. So why don't we
Speaker 2: go ahead, Saga and get to that piece as well.
Speaker 1: Well, Let's go to that. This is probably the single
Speaker 1: most troubling development of this entire thing. And let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and put this up there on the screen. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump says Iran quote will suffer dire consequences for any
Speaker 1: more Hoofy attacks. Further attacks or retaliation by the Hoothis
Speaker 1: would be considered an attack by the Iranian regime and
Speaker 1: it would face dire consequences. This specifically comes from Trump's
Speaker 1: truth social accounts. So can we please put that up
Speaker 1: on the screen so that I can just read the
Speaker 1: full thing quote. Let nobody be fooled. The hundreds of
Speaker 1: attacks being made by the Houthi, the sinister mobsters and
Speaker 1: thugs based in Yemen, who are hated by the Yemeny people,
Speaker 1: all emanate from and are created by Iran. Any further
Speaker 1: attack or retaliation by the Hoothis will be met with
Speaker 1: great force. There is no guarantee that will force stop there.
Speaker 1: Iran has played the innocent victim of rogue terrorists from
Speaker 1: which they've lost control. But they haven't lost control. They're
Speaker 1: dictating every move, giving them weapons, supplying them with money
Speaker 1: and highly sophisticated military equipment and even so called intelligence.
Speaker 1: Every shot fired by the Hoothis will be looked upon
Speaker 1: from this point forward as a shot fired from the
Speaker 1: w weapons in the leadership of Iran. Iran will be
Speaker 1: held responsible and will suffer the consequences, and those consequences
Speaker 1: will be dire. Now, this is one of those where
Speaker 1: we're basically creating what you don't want, which is a
Speaker 1: direct red line. If you don't cross it, you're actually
Speaker 1: gonna embolden, right the hoo thies. And Trump has consistently
Speaker 1: tried to do this in the past, and I will say,
Speaker 1: I guess the only good thing is that he has
Speaker 1: never really followed up on it. He keeps telling Hamas
Speaker 1: there's going to be hell to pay? Is it going
Speaker 1: to be hell to pay? It's like, okay, well, nothing
Speaker 1: really happened, you know, with any of that. Yes there
Speaker 1: is Okay, the Israelis aren't doing it, but may America's not,
Speaker 1: you know, in there directly bombing the Gaza strip, which
Speaker 1: is effectively what he was saying on this point. You've
Speaker 1: now made it clear who the's cross it. Do the
Speaker 1: Iranians even have total control? Let's say they don't. Only
Speaker 1: takes one guy and then that's it. We're off to
Speaker 1: the races. And the problem that we want to identify
Speaker 1: here is it's just fundamentally different for Israel and for
Speaker 1: Iran to have tit for tat strikes against each other,
Speaker 1: even yes, with the United States come and intervening, it's
Speaker 1: genuinely just completely another universe where the United States itself
Speaker 1: is directly bombing Iran has not happened in I don't
Speaker 1: even know it's ninety one something like that. And that's
Speaker 1: just my other thing is that these pro war with
Speaker 1: Iran folks, they always try to point to limited military
Speaker 1: engagements in the past and be like, that's the way
Speaker 1: that it's going to go. You have no guarantee. We
Speaker 1: have also created a situation for them where they have
Speaker 1: to save face in some respect or they will be
Speaker 1: not only look ridiculous to their own people, but look
Speaker 1: ridiculous to any of their proxies or power projection. They
Speaker 1: have interests in Iraq and Syria and else where. They
Speaker 1: taken a lot of l's in the last few in
Speaker 1: the last few years. It only takes one to jump off,
Speaker 1: and so the pro war with Iran crowd they think
Speaker 1: that's worth it. I don't think it's worth it at all.
Speaker 1: What interests could we possibly have in that region to
Speaker 1: expend millions and to possibly lead to thousands of American
Speaker 1: lives being lost. I want to read here from Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 1: and specifically these are this is the post that has
Speaker 1: been getting him tarred as a Katari asset. You could
Speaker 1: say a lot about Tucker. To call him a Katari
Speaker 1: asset is probably one of the dumbest things that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. It's worth pointing out a strike on the
Speaker 1: Irani nuclear sides will almost certainly result in thousands of
Speaker 1: American debts. It bases throughout the Middle East cost the
Speaker 1: United States tens of billions of dollars. The cost of
Speaker 1: future acts of terrorism on American soil may even be higher.
Speaker 1: Those aren't guesses. Those are the Pentagon's own estimates. That's true.
Speaker 1: A bombing campaign against Iran will set off a war.
Speaker 1: It will be America's war. Don't let the propagandas lie
Speaker 1: to you directly underneath it top reply, the post is
Speaker 1: brought to you by Qatar. But listen, it's him. You
Speaker 1: got Candace, you got Steve Bannon out there. That's basically it.
Speaker 1: Everybody else in the administration, even the people who may
Speaker 1: agree their mouths are shut, they don't have anything they
Speaker 1: could particularly do. At the top, you've got Marco Rubio,
Speaker 1: Mike Walsh, We've got micro Rubio, Mike Wallas, and Pete
Speaker 1: hegseth All who basically said stuff like this before or
Speaker 1: the opposite of this on Iran in the past. They're
Speaker 1: on the record about how they think, you know, America
Speaker 1: should handle all of this. So yeah, I hope it
Speaker 1: works out. I'm not not very hopeful, you know, to
Speaker 1: look at all this this the ground is laid and
Speaker 1: everyone always points to the Soulamani things like, oh, nothing happened.
Speaker 1: It's like you can't take it as evidence that nothing
Speaker 1: happened in the future.
Speaker 2: Not even true, because they did attack and injure quite
Speaker 2: a number of our troups. But yes, but it didn't
Speaker 2: lead to it.
Speaker 1: It didn't lead to a massive break. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: but that's not evidence that that this is going to
Speaker 1: be okay this time. A direct attack by the United
Speaker 1: States on Iranian soil would be a new era. It
Speaker 1: would be a new jump off point, and it would
Speaker 1: just take almost nothing for us to easily become in
Speaker 1: mash not only in a war with Iran in Godz
Speaker 1: and then by that standard, you know, we should be
Speaker 1: involved in in Gaza with Iran in Yemen. The way
Speaker 1: that this can snowball, as we also during the War
Speaker 1: on Terror, during the war in Iraq, is just so
Speaker 1: detrimental to any fundamental reading of American interests. So I'm
Speaker 1: very worried about this, I really am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it really seems like they're sad to
Speaker 2: give Israel everything that they wanted. I mean, the fantasy
Speaker 2: for Israel forever has been to draw us in to
Speaker 2: a direct conflict with Iran, and we're on the precipice
Speaker 2: of that. I mean, I think it's worth taking a minute.
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to go back to what
Speaker 2: Tucker was saying there. I think we can all note
Speaker 2: for the record. I'm not a fan of Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: What did he say there that was not correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, And it's I mean it's telling when people when
Speaker 2: they're only come back as like, oh, you're a paid
Speaker 2: propagandist for Qatar. It's like, why don't you actually respond
Speaker 2: to what he said?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: We have tons of thousands of troops stationed across the region.
Speaker 2: There would all I mean, this is outside of the notion,
Speaker 2: even of a broader conflagration would be immediately putting all
Speaker 2: of their lives at risk for what to further bib
Speaker 2: nat Yahoo's domestic political ambitions, to further the interests of Israel,
Speaker 2: Like what are we doing here? Go and ask the
Speaker 2: American public how they feel about war with Iran, about
Speaker 2: a more chaotic and inflamed Middle East? How do they
Speaker 2: feel about that? And the answer will be absolutely resounding.
Speaker 2: All of the support for dragging us into some new
Speaker 2: Middle East conflict is within thirty miles of where we
Speaker 2: sit right now. That's basically all of the support for
Speaker 2: it in this nation is right here. Because of all
Speaker 2: sorts of interest in you know, whether it's the military
Speaker 2: industrial complex, whether it's just absolutely ideological actors whether it
Speaker 2: is people who are you know, directly interested whatever the
Speaker 2: neat Yahoo government wants, that's what they get, et cetera.
Speaker 2: We know the level of power that these people have
Speaker 2: and have had in both parties, which is why, you know,
Speaker 2: now you get the Trump administration, and Trump's supposed to
Speaker 2: be this totally different character, and he's pursuing a policy
Speaker 2: that sure does rhyme with the policy of the Biden administration.
Speaker 2: You know, to go back to the Houthis here as well.
Speaker 2: You guys, remember Biden said, do I think that this
Speaker 2: policy of bombing the Houthis is going to work? No,
Speaker 2: but we're going to continue it anyways. Like that's what
Speaker 2: we're talking about here. This policy has already been a
Speaker 2: proven failure that is only going to lead to increased escalation.
Speaker 2: Like the best case scenario is that we just blow
Speaker 2: up a bunch of Humeni's and it doesn't lead to
Speaker 2: a massive war. But already, the whole reason that the
Speaker 2: Houthis started their campaign again because they had stopped during
Speaker 2: the ceasefire, was because Israel broke the ceasefire and especially
Speaker 2: specifically resumed the siege in the blockade of humanitarian aid
Speaker 2: and ultimately cut off the electricity, and of course now
Speaker 2: we're back on to full on genicidal assault with in Gaza.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is insane. You know. Just to back
Speaker 2: up a little bit on with regard to how we
Speaker 2: got here with Iran, the Obama administration negotiated the Iranian
Speaker 2: nuclear deal that was actually going well. Trump I think,
Speaker 2: just reflexively because Obama did it, gets out of it.
Speaker 2: I think Saga is correct that with regard to the
Speaker 2: Middle East, he's just more transaction. I don't think he
Speaker 2: is a particularly ideological actor here, which is why some
Speaker 2: people held on hope that perhaps he would approach things
Speaker 2: in a different way than the Biden administration. But so
Speaker 2: he gets out in his first administration, the Biden administration
Speaker 2: then fails to get back in. This was something we
Speaker 2: covered extensively at the time that the window to do
Speaker 2: it was right at the beginning of his sid administration,
Speaker 2: when you still had a you know, relatively moderate Iranian
Speaker 2: political leadership in charge. That was the moment to do it.
Speaker 2: The Iranians had continued to comply with that with that
Speaker 2: deal even after we had exited it. Biden never does it.
Speaker 2: It remains, you know, we remain out of that deal.
Speaker 2: Trump comes back in and make some noises about basically
Speaker 2: either we're going to bomb you or you're going to
Speaker 2: get back in the deal, and the leadership says, screw you, Like,
Speaker 2: we're not going to be bullied. We've put the Trump
Speaker 2: administration put even war sanctions on Iran, like that's been
Speaker 2: working in the past, Like that's achieved our goals either
Speaker 2: there or in Russia or Cuba or anywhere else around
Speaker 2: the world. We're going to put war sanctions on resumption
Speaker 2: and maximum pressure. And the Iranian leadership said, why should
Speaker 2: we trust you. We were in this deal before you
Speaker 2: all backed down. There's no reason for us to trust
Speaker 2: you whatsoever. You're trying to bully us with the sanctions
Speaker 2: Like no, and so now here we are very close
Speaker 2: to giving beebe his absolute fondest wish. Ken Klippenstein had
Speaker 2: a really good piece. Let's go and put this up
Speaker 2: on the screen. He noted a couple of escalations, some
Speaker 2: of which I hadn't even taken note of because they
Speaker 2: were not really brought up in the US press. His
Speaker 2: headline here is Trump is now at war with Iran.
Speaker 2: Let's call this what it is. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I would go quite that far yet, but the indications
Speaker 2: are certainly very troubling, he says in this piece, without
Speaker 2: the American press even noticing Donald Trump has started a
Speaker 2: war with Iran. On February twenty eighth, the US military
Speaker 2: announced two B fifty two heavy bombers flying from an
Speaker 2: undisclosed location in the Middle East, which I can report
Speaker 2: as the country of Qatar, dropped bombs on another undisclosed location,
Speaker 2: which was Iraq. The message was not lost on neighboring Iran,
Speaker 2: whose state media warned that the B fifty twos are
Speaker 2: nuclear capable bombers carrying a message whose recipient was clear
Speaker 2: as day, the Islamic Republic of Iran. He goes on. Then,
Speaker 2: on March ninth, a second bomber demonstration was made. USB
Speaker 2: fifty twos flew alongside Israeli fighter jets on long range missions,
Speaker 2: practicing aerial refueling and joint operations. Again, the American press
Speaker 2: missed the story, though not the Israeli press, which correctly
Speaker 2: reported the real purpose of the operation quote readying the
Speaker 2: Israeli military for a potential joint strike with the US
Speaker 2: on Iran. The military preparations culminated this weekend in a
Speaker 2: set of US airstrikes on Hufi leadership in Yemen, and
Speaker 2: Ken says he will be reporting today on more of
Speaker 2: the war plans with Iran. So the preparations have been made,
Speaker 2: the groundwork has been laid. The rhetorical groundwork with regard
Speaker 2: to you know, Trump and the way he's posturing has
Speaker 2: also been put out there. And you know, the whole
Speaker 2: thing is in danger of being ignited directly by our
Speaker 2: president deciding to go along with whatever it is the
Speaker 2: Israelis one.
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty five, We invaded Iraq in three. It
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty two, twenty two years ago, So why
Speaker 1: are we using Do you know even want to know
Speaker 1: how much it cost to run a B fifty two
Speaker 1: per hour? You really don't. It would be enough for
Speaker 1: you know, there's always that meme. It's like people are
Speaker 1: about to find out why America doesn't have universal health
Speaker 1: care at time there on the bike, you have no
Speaker 1: clue of the amount of money that we have expended
Speaker 1: here just trying to do what to show Iran that
Speaker 1: we're tough.
Speaker 2: Weird, weird that dog doesn't seem interested in this spending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good point, and look, this solution is staring us
Speaker 1: all in the face. Didn't even cost any money. Just
Speaker 1: tell the Israelis, hey, we're doing a ceasefire. Now you
Speaker 1: got your you know, you did it for two years.
Speaker 1: You basically leveled the place. That's you know, every time
Speaker 1: I see them, they're they're bombing, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is even left? What is left the bomb? I don't
Speaker 1: even know.
Speaker 2: Women and children on the photos and the videos that
Speaker 2: are going in, it's predominantly women in jo.
Speaker 1: What exactly is quote left to hit? And if it
Speaker 1: is at this point, isn't that an admission that your
Speaker 1: bombing campaign over a two year period has already you know,
Speaker 1: basically failed, because it means that you haven't been able
Speaker 1: to accomplish this through military force and or limited ground incursions.
Speaker 1: Oh oops, I'll allowed to ask that question. The point
Speaker 1: is is that this point, I mean, what it's March eighteenth,
Speaker 1: This has been when eighteen months or so bombing can
Speaker 1: probably more at this point bombing campaign by the Israelis
Speaker 1: and ground operations. When are we going to admit this
Speaker 1: is a total failure and why should we continue? But
Speaker 1: that's just how Washington works, how I don't even know
Speaker 1: how long it took for US to stop providing the
Speaker 1: Saudis with arms for their hoothy campaign. Maybe a year.
Speaker 1: I think five years. At that point in Washington is
Speaker 1: the easiest thing. You just keep the checks and all
Speaker 1: that flowing. The problem is is you are walking us
Speaker 1: closer and closer to the precipice. You drew your red
Speaker 1: line now, so if you don't follow, if you follow
Speaker 1: through on it, it's bad. If you don't follow through
Speaker 1: on it, you're gonna look like an idiot. And then
Speaker 1: the pressure here is unbelievable. Yesterday was the most excited
Speaker 1: I have seen neo cons in the entire Trump administration.
Speaker 1: First and second, So listen, I trust them. They know
Speaker 1: when they're getting what they want. They have been seething
Speaker 1: over wit Cough. They've attacked him, They've smeared him Bowler,
Speaker 1: they destroyed this man's career. They have smeared any person
Speaker 1: who has said that they want to avoid war with Iran.
Speaker 1: They have used all their media outlets, they've thrown everything
Speaker 1: they possibly can, and I think they've won for now.
Speaker 1: So people, you know, if you're somebody who disagrees with that,
Speaker 1: you also need to engage here on a baseline political level.
Speaker 1: It's not just even about protests or any of this.
Speaker 1: These small fights that we've been trying to raise attention to,
Speaker 1: they matter a lot because they've got an entire media
Speaker 1: apparatus ready to go this. You know, the smear campaigns
Speaker 1: that have been against these Go spend some time on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Go look at some of these accounts. They're disgusting the
Speaker 1: way that they just spread literal lives. They don't care
Speaker 1: about the truth. All they care about is getting their way.
Speaker 1: And so we're in a dangerous place and there's no
Speaker 1: media apparatus to try and serve as a check. It's
Speaker 1: great to see, you know, Tucker, Dave Smith and all
Speaker 1: these other guys that are out there. We're a tiny fraction,
Speaker 1: you know, of anybody with any real power. But the
Speaker 1: good news usually is that the actual voters are not
Speaker 1: with a lot of these neo cons and if they do,
Speaker 1: if they go down this road, it's the easiest way
Speaker 1: to ruin your presidency. The George W. Bush administration was
Speaker 1: destroyed by the war in Iraq and by privatization. Sound familiar,
Speaker 1: so like sometimes history just needs to rhyme enough for
Speaker 1: you to It needs to just rhyme just enough for
Speaker 1: you to maybe recall some lessons and not go down
Speaker 1: that path. I would hope, I would hope. I know
Speaker 1: at least some people in the White House would know that.
Speaker 2: I do think that there is I think it may
Speaker 2: be the case that Trump misreads what the politics would be.
Speaker 2: I think he assumes there would be a sort of
Speaker 2: like rally round the flag effect that would benefit him politically.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately they are, honestly, and I mean with his base, yeah,
Speaker 2: with the Republican Party, yes, there would be. With the
Speaker 2: rest of the country, no, there would not be. But
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this is someone who is engaged
Speaker 2: in consolidating all the power that he can, and war
Speaker 2: is a great way to consolidate even more power, claim
Speaker 2: even more extraordinary powers that and I do think that
Speaker 2: he just, you know, has this assumption that countries at
Speaker 2: war people rally around the flag and I'll get a
Speaker 2: big bump, and you know, and we do see the
Speaker 2: way the media backs up anytime there's bombing. Suddenly CNN
Speaker 2: and MSNBC and Fox News are all like singing the
Speaker 2: same tune. So he's not even one hundred percent wrong
Speaker 2: about the way that the media backs him up. But ultimately,
Speaker 2: I think Sager is one hundred percent correct that after
Speaker 2: possibly an initial like oh look at us, we're so strong, etc.
Speaker 2: When the reality of yet another Middle East quagmire disastrous
Speaker 2: war sets in, which would set in very quickly, then
Speaker 2: the political implications of that are going to be very different. Now, again,
Speaker 2: I think this president is an authoritarian, and I think
Speaker 2: that he wants to consolidate power in a way where
Speaker 2: that political descent, where he's basically sort of immune from
Speaker 2: that political descent and you know, where it doesn't really
Speaker 2: matter to him and what he wants to do, And
Speaker 2: maybe he'll be right about that as well. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think Saga is absolutely correct that the public overall,
Speaker 2: not the Republican base, but the public overall will viscerally
Speaker 2: reject being dragged into another war. And because also, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is for this is for Israel, like they're the
Speaker 2: ones who want this. It's not like we had after
Speaker 2: nine to eleven, like we were attacked and people did
Speaker 2: rally around the flag and there was a sentiment and
Speaker 2: that sentiment was directed in all of the wrong places.
Speaker 2: But we haven't had like October seventh wasn't here, So
Speaker 2: we haven't had that same you know, assault directly on us.
Speaker 2: So the political landscape is wildly different than it was
Speaker 2: during that time, during the Georgia especially illustration.
Speaker 1: You know. And I just got to show people like
Speaker 1: what this is like. So my friend Trey Yings, he's
Speaker 1: the Fox News correspondent. Can we agree he's not very
Speaker 1: pre you know, like the most pro Hamas same, But
Speaker 1: can we can we agree on that?
Speaker 2: I certainly, I can certainly agree on it. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean I would say he dared to stand up
Speaker 2: for palace to the journalist, let me read.
Speaker 1: You what he said this morning. He said, horrific images
Speaker 1: circulating inside Gaza the aftermath of Israeli strikes. One shows
Speaker 1: a small baby wearing a jumpsuit with rainbows who was killed.
Speaker 1: The death toll continues to rise. That's what he said.
Speaker 1: That's a statement of fact. You know what, you know what?
Speaker 1: And these are all professional right wing influencers, thought leaders,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Who's circulating the images, Trey? What are the
Speaker 1: sourcing on these images? Why was the baby there? A Trey?
Speaker 1: Do you have any images of the hostages? When will
Speaker 1: Hamas stop using human shields? Hamas is the one that's
Speaker 1: responsible for this. This is what the aftermath of taking
Speaker 1: hostages look like, every single one of those And look,
Speaker 1: I know Twitter is not real life, but the reason
Speaker 1: I'm reading from them is I know every single one
Speaker 1: of those people and how influential they are in the discourse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is who is winning right now.
Speaker 2: Well, the Trump and they takes Twitter very seriously too, And.
Speaker 1: They should take Twitter seriously right because that's like the
Speaker 1: right wing ecosystem of where all their voters are, or
Speaker 1: at least a significant portion of their thought leadership, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Is all he said, horrific images circulating inside go. It's
Speaker 1: not even a statement, it's a statement of fact. It's
Speaker 1: not even an opinion that at noticing fact noting that
Speaker 1: for people inconvenient they demand absolute fealty. Only people like
Speaker 1: me and a few others genuinely have no financial connection
Speaker 1: and have the ability to speak. Can everybody else? They're done?
Speaker 1: Even if you disagree, you have no idea. The messages
Speaker 1: and all these other things that I get from people
Speaker 1: who are either inside the administration or inside the blob
Speaker 1: or whatever. They know. They know this is bullshit. They
Speaker 1: can't say anything. So that's the reality of the situation
Speaker 1: that we're living in. It's like two thousand and three
Speaker 1: all over again. Yeah, you know, and there's a few
Speaker 1: folks out there, but that's you know, the lone voice
Speaker 1: is just like back in the day, I thought it
Speaker 1: would be better, I really did. But you know, in
Speaker 1: some cases, even the same people like Glenn, it's like
Speaker 1: it's just the lone stallwart standing there a thwart a
Speaker 1: lot of this bullshit. Everybody else they're just going along
Speaker 1: for the run. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and the climate, that climate has been encouraged and
Speaker 2: fostered by first by the Biden administration, which also characterized
Speaker 2: anyone who is pro Palestine as basically like you know,
Speaker 2: fringe pro hamas, terror supporting, et cetera. And then that
Speaker 2: has been codified and weaponized even more aggressively by the
Speaker 2: Trump administration, which of course we've been tracking here, not
Speaker 2: just with the arrest of Mackmood Khalil, but investigating the
Speaker 2: Colombia protesters for terrorism, sending letters to sixty universities saying
Speaker 2: that if you don't take these dramatic steps to combat
Speaker 2: quote unquote anti Semitism, we're going to strip all your funding.
Speaker 2: Stripping all of the funding from Colombia and claiming that
Speaker 2: they didn't do enough to combat anti Semitism. They have
Speaker 2: created and foster climate where any descent from the status
Speaker 2: quo visa vi Israel equals your Prohamas equals your pro
Speaker 2: terrorism and so then yeah, this is the domestic climate
Speaker 2: and the foreign policy go hand and glove. You cannot
Speaker 2: separate those two things. So if they wanted to take
Speaker 2: a different course, if they wanted to let the Adam
Speaker 2: Bowlers of the world be able to say, hey, we
Speaker 2: got our own interests here, We're not an agent of Israel.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I understand why they didn't want
Speaker 2: us to go to Gaza. I understand why they didn't
Speaker 2: want us to talk to himas we might find out,
Speaker 2: actually you can negotiate with them. Actually you know, they
Speaker 2: you know, are human beings, not to say they're He
Speaker 2: didn't say they're good guys. He said they might. You
Speaker 2: might discover that they're actual human beings that you can
Speaker 2: work with, et cetera. If you wanted to go in
Speaker 2: that direction, you have to also have a different domestic
Speaker 2: political climate and conversation, and that has been also in
Speaker 2: recent weeks completely taken off the table and like I
Speaker 2: said before, I mean the Biden administration also fostered that
Speaker 2: same sort of sentiment. It's just been codified, weaponized, aggressively
Speaker 2: enforced power, consolidated, dissent, crushed, First Amendment rights crushed under
Speaker 2: this administration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the crazy part is actually pretty bipartisan. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Schumer that in soon. That's
Speaker 1: the leader of the Democratic Party in the United States Senate.
Speaker 1: De facto agreement. There's some quibbles, you know on mak
Speaker 1: muk Actually has Schumer said anything about Khalil?
Speaker 2: I think I think Schumer put out one of these
Speaker 2: long twenty paragraph statements, preamble about what a scumbag he is,
Speaker 2: one ambiguous line at the end that's like, but maybe
Speaker 2: the First Amendment. I think he's in that camp. But
Speaker 2: that was certainly, whether it was him or other, that
Speaker 2: was a lot of the vibe coming from Democratic.
Speaker 1: Leadership host to bipartisanship. That's what it actually looks like
Speaker 1: in Washington.