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Speaker 1: producer in the game because I can't think of a
Speaker 1: producer hot in the game right now. Give it up
Speaker 1: at l Jacob on Big Facts. Good man, what's something
Speaker 1: I keep running into you? Man? I think that's good
Speaker 1: fortune and good favor because you're doing some amazing things.
Speaker 1: Definitely just working working my way out from different mindsets
Speaker 1: to the next level. What what? Why? Why production? Because
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, everybody's like you're talented, your intelligent,
Speaker 1: all that good ship. Like why production for you? Like
Speaker 1: when you was coming up, why was it that the
Speaker 1: thing that you said, I want to kind of just
Speaker 1: mesh with it and make history. Actually I was rapping first,
Speaker 1: and um this was a round time player CARDI actually
Speaker 1: started rapping. I was in high school. I wanted to
Speaker 1: wrap on my own beats. I didn't want to use
Speaker 1: YouTube beats, so I was like, man, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to make beats that I can wrap for
Speaker 1: and that's why I started producing. So you started producing
Speaker 1: to make the beats for yourself. Yeah, but didn't you
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, didn't you like get a background for knowing
Speaker 1: the different instruments and stuff like that because you went
Speaker 1: the marching band. Yeah? I was in marching bad from
Speaker 1: uh six I joined. I was actually playing with the
Speaker 1: high school marching band since sixth grade. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually just you were like advanced. Yeah, I was advanced
Speaker 1: and bad. I was first cheering everything like over the
Speaker 1: older and I actually just donated ten thousand to the
Speaker 1: to my band. To my high school. Bad school was
Speaker 1: a creasy high school. Yeah, okay, headed out where you
Speaker 1: come from, Like what's side time? South side? You know,
Speaker 1: uh Old National, say, the Union City, all of that
Speaker 1: down there. So you know most kids down there with
Speaker 1: the creek side or banners now not West Late. That's
Speaker 1: when the rich kids went to the He's ready with
Speaker 1: your mom and dad just my mama, my uh my
Speaker 1: dad was always moving around and stuff, you know, So
Speaker 1: I just didn't work out, you know how they go
Speaker 1: how your relationship Now we're cool. I talked to him sometime.
Speaker 1: You'd be like your owner soon. No, I don't nobody, man, oh,
Speaker 1: my mama, everything not for sure? Your dad yeah all
Speaker 1: the time. You know, throw a couple of Huntred got
Speaker 1: siblings sid some of us and told them on my
Speaker 1: mama's side and my dad. I can't even tell you
Speaker 1: how many kids he got. I don't know. I know
Speaker 1: I met one, I don't know the rest. What was
Speaker 1: what was your first okay, what was your first like
Speaker 1: I guess you could say local hit, and what was
Speaker 1: your first big hit that reached like gold and black status?
Speaker 1: My first local here I say, like spend the block. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's spend the block, Grandy Crib with dirt, spending block
Speaker 1: with the Dirk comcludo. Uh in my mainstream you know, super,
Speaker 1: I feel like, well they say it was I and
Speaker 1: then but I say, like to me, I feel like
Speaker 1: it was super because that's that's so When when you
Speaker 1: was making these beats for yourself, when when when did
Speaker 1: it hit you that, man, I had to start giving
Speaker 1: some of these beats to some other people because it's
Speaker 1: that ship gonna make some income. Um. Actually what happened?
Speaker 1: I always felt like my beats wasn't ready. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want tobody hear these yet, like maybe like
Speaker 1: first in my hood and said, I used to be like, man,
Speaker 1: listen to it. I just made this. That's like in
Speaker 1: the beginning. But like I always felt like I was
Speaker 1: never ready yet, Like even even like now, I still
Speaker 1: be like, man, I need to go harder. So I
Speaker 1: always felt like nobody was ready to wrap on my
Speaker 1: beats here because I was still perfected it. But it
Speaker 1: came to the point where people was hearing my beats
Speaker 1: they wanted it. So by the time I met Casino,
Speaker 1: and I was still felt like I wasn't ready. I
Speaker 1: met Casino, Casino was hopping on everything. So then that's
Speaker 1: when you took me PLU and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta turn up faster even more because I
Speaker 1: still feel like it ain't ready. You're in the game now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: in fact, so how is that? How is that moment? Man?
Speaker 1: Like the phone line changes. I'm sure you still get
Speaker 1: your homies and your family and all that ship, but
Speaker 1: now the phone and adn't given moment can be your call.
Speaker 1: I d will read Future or Drake or Kanye or
Speaker 1: whoever else is calling your phone, Like, yeah, thats kind
Speaker 1: of surreal and how you deal with it. At first,
Speaker 1: it used to be like damn bro calling, let me
Speaker 1: answer this. They would be like, oh yeah bro calling ship.
Speaker 1: Okay I am Sometimes I missed the call, you know,
Speaker 1: always hit him back, always still be humble. It's just um.
Speaker 1: But that anxiety of like, oh my god, isn't It's
Speaker 1: like it's not there like it used to be, like yeah,
Speaker 1: back then it was like the future calling me, he
Speaker 1: wants a beats man, let me make gonna pull up
Speaker 1: right now. Like sometimes I when you have beats ready,
Speaker 1: I'm he'll's coming to pull up a song and I
Speaker 1: make like ten beats and like and like two hours
Speaker 1: right before I pull up on and be like man
Speaker 1: and he'll go crazy on the whole path. How did
Speaker 1: it feel like getting your first hit? Like it's still
Speaker 1: motivates me to go harder now. I feel like because
Speaker 1: you know, like when you get your first hit, it
Speaker 1: would be so many people chasing that money. Like they say,
Speaker 1: you can't make a hit until everybody coming for the check.
Speaker 1: So like you got this person saying they did this,
Speaker 1: this person saying they did that, and then just sucking
Speaker 1: up the money or like not sucking it up. I'm
Speaker 1: really just holding it back, like where you gotta wait longer.
Speaker 1: So it's like, Dawn, I gotta go even harder. Get
Speaker 1: another hit, because this money can take a long time
Speaker 1: because you folks saying this and then then like you
Speaker 1: get another hit. You got another person saying something. You know,
Speaker 1: like you think you don't did the business perfect, it's
Speaker 1: like they're another one. So now I feel like I
Speaker 1: get another hit. So when you say like like these
Speaker 1: folks are saying this, you mean like other people are
Speaker 1: staking claim to helping you make the beat. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's why I rarely used loops unless it's like I
Speaker 1: was there and when they made it, or I just
Speaker 1: know for sure that they did it. Because the business
Speaker 1: it would be like stuff for like up and coming producers.
Speaker 1: You'll give them a chance and like they it will
Speaker 1: be like, man, I need eight thousand advance and it's
Speaker 1: the first placement, and they'd be like, what burn my
Speaker 1: first place and I got a thousand others. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: it's like the business of it just makes you want
Speaker 1: you know, I want to work with only people that
Speaker 1: you're familiar with. That's why it's that's why I just
Speaker 1: think in the circle with my producers. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I was just about to ask you. So do you have, like, um,
Speaker 1: a team of producers that you work with that like
Speaker 1: kind of helped rejuvenate your creativity. Yeah, it's um, we
Speaker 1: can many family my label. It's UM we got like producers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like eleven of them in total, but they're all
Speaker 1: doing good, so we just got to get them to
Speaker 1: do great. Fat. Yeah, you collad with another producer, like
Speaker 1: another popular producer, um, yeah, but don't be like the
Speaker 1: homies like you know Meto Southside, don't like my brothers
Speaker 1: T M D Y. But outside of that, I never can.
Speaker 1: I never collad one another big producer if you had,
Speaker 1: if you had one collab you can collad with, But
Speaker 1: who would it be? Well? Coming up always one of
Speaker 1: my sound sound like Metro, So I would have said Metro,
Speaker 1: but like we already yeah, so m I say like
Speaker 1: maybe uh, maybe Templary, Oh definitely Manny Fresh too. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this because a lot of
Speaker 1: people that aren't from Atlanta and that aren't familiar probably
Speaker 1: want to know how did you come up with your
Speaker 1: famous producer tag Um. It was actually a young school.
Speaker 1: Who came up? What did he? Uh? He had a
Speaker 1: song called Real Talk. That first thing he said, a
Speaker 1: TL Jacob ETL Jacob shout up to the ox, so
Speaker 1: I knew those the tag soon as he did it.
Speaker 1: Just start throwing all the beats, shout out of the street,
Speaker 1: Oh God. And one of the most touchiest moments and
Speaker 1: with shouts of sunny digital what he was here? We
Speaker 1: talked about it. But one of the most touchiest moments
Speaker 1: as a producer is when you get that call from
Speaker 1: them fouls and the stems and all that ship. So
Speaker 1: how does a T. L. Jacob balance that? Because sometimes
Speaker 1: you got the homies men, I need, I need to
Speaker 1: make you man, sent the fouls, sent the stems, and
Speaker 1: then some producers like, hell no, I ain't. It ain't
Speaker 1: gonna happen. And sometimes that's strange relations and ship. So
Speaker 1: how do you deal with it? Uh? Sometimes, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I hate sending the fouls because they never knowlready missed
Speaker 1: my beats. So my my secret, and I'm about to
Speaker 1: gift to everybody, is I missed my own beats and
Speaker 1: I sitting in the wave foul, So it's still hits.
Speaker 1: That's why, right, on still hits the way and it
Speaker 1: sounds like it sound like the way when I made it,
Speaker 1: because I'm not getting them fouls just in case they
Speaker 1: need him. We're not using fouls on them. Find the Master,
Speaker 1: my my Way foul. Yeah. That's so when it comes
Speaker 1: to sending fouls, it's just yeah, Like to be honest,
Speaker 1: like me and Pluto Learning, we use two tracks the
Speaker 1: whole album to track, just we don't need fouls no more.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's like going by the books, man, we
Speaker 1: go by vibe. Yeah, and it hit every time. What
Speaker 1: what what do you think because you're artists as well, Like,
Speaker 1: what do you think is some of the formal of
Speaker 1: the producers or artists falling off with some of the
Speaker 1: things that you think happens to make them fall off.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes they go by the books by saying,
Speaker 1: like a lot of artists, especially well, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: like a lot of upcoming artists, they go, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: starting this song, what's the hook? First? What does the
Speaker 1: beat sound like? You don't even need a hook, so
Speaker 1: you're just forcing the hook, and then you you're just
Speaker 1: doing bars and you're calling these eight bars the hook
Speaker 1: because you just said something. You form at it as
Speaker 1: a hook and that's not even like there's not even
Speaker 1: a vibe of the song. So sometimes they will mess
Speaker 1: up the whole song because they're thinking that's the hook,
Speaker 1: and it's like, sometimes you don't need a hook. Sometimes
Speaker 1: your hook might come after the verse. Sometimes the hook
Speaker 1: might come sit steen bars later exactly, and it's just
Speaker 1: a vibe. Is all about the vibe of the song.
Speaker 1: So that's why a lot of upcoming artists mess up.
Speaker 1: And where the upcoming producers messed up is they don't
Speaker 1: produce records. They just make the beating let the artist.
Speaker 1: They don't think about the entire total picture of the
Speaker 1: whole entire ship. Yeah, and that's where and and that's
Speaker 1: that's not what you want to do, because what you
Speaker 1: want to do is like work so great where it's
Speaker 1: like the rappers calling you back, like come back, I
Speaker 1: need you, like where they actually need you instead of
Speaker 1: where they just want you. I want you to send
Speaker 1: some ship and then like that's it. That's why I like,
Speaker 1: I respect every artist that like that respects the way
Speaker 1: I worked, Like Blue though he was the first one
Speaker 1: to you know, to really let me work high work
Speaker 1: and like, play with songs, not play with him, you know,
Speaker 1: do my thing on the songs instead of him just
Speaker 1: saying this is the song. If he ever said this
Speaker 1: is the song, he probably gave me the session to
Speaker 1: do something with it. Yeah, that's why I always respecting
Speaker 1: him for that, but respect your insight into the whole crafty.
Speaker 1: And it makes me and and like, that makes it
Speaker 1: hard for me to work with up and coming artists
Speaker 1: because a lot of these artists don't listen. They just
Speaker 1: want to rap and they don't want to make songs.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, man, I'm trying to make songs, and
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. It's both of your songs collected effort,
Speaker 1: Like my beat, you just putting the lyrics on it,
Speaker 1: but I know I know what I hear on my beat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they will never understand that. They just think everything
Speaker 1: they think is right because they made a uh a
Speaker 1: little a small accumulated song that's going crazy a little
Speaker 1: bit and it's bigger than that. You want to, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to song that's gonna like stick forever, like
Speaker 1: stick for a long time and least yeah, so you
Speaker 1: so you brought the idea already with um with the
Speaker 1: girl already on the wait for you. Yeah. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's actually one of my favorite songs. It's called higher
Speaker 1: Yeah so. Uh when I sampled it, fan z said
Speaker 1: it would have chopped up on it already, but I
Speaker 1: just placed it around differently. I was like, man, so
Speaker 1: I was treating the vocals as a song already. That's
Speaker 1: why when Pluto was like he heard the song, he
Speaker 1: just listened to the when he heard the beat, just
Speaker 1: listen to beat a much straight without wrapping on it,
Speaker 1: because they already sounded like a song. So he just
Speaker 1: we are new as a smashes because of the vibe
Speaker 1: of it. That's but that's like my favorite beat I
Speaker 1: ever made so far. What's your dream feature? My dream feature?
Speaker 1: You got it? I ain't got it yet. Wow, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get it though. Uh you know how crazy that
Speaker 1: would be? Yeah? Right, exactly, exactly sure, Like Jacob, are
Speaker 1: you serious right now? Imagine justin Bieber to imagine or
Speaker 1: it's already imagined. Yeah, facts right, Like that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a vibe. It's gonna be a little minute, but it's coming.
Speaker 1: It's coming now, damn it. You are right? Just might
Speaker 1: be what are he going to night just to be outside.
Speaker 1: O god, I know that's coming real soon. Have you
Speaker 1: have you planned as a producer your next sound, because
Speaker 1: a lot of producer homies tell me one frustrating part
Speaker 1: is that when you create a sound, obviously the upcoming
Speaker 1: producers they all So if you already planning your next sound, yeah,
Speaker 1: my next sound was the way for you vibe. Man,
Speaker 1: It's like I'm making a new sound. We already made it. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm just finding the right vibe of artists to get
Speaker 1: on it where it just sounds like where it's just
Speaker 1: a masterpiece because you don't want to get the wrong
Speaker 1: person on it. But I got some stuff, some crazy stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's simpler than you think. You're just
Speaker 1: a vibe though. So I've definitely been practicing. I take
Speaker 1: breaks from making beats to get my mom right to
Speaker 1: make the next way. So that's what I want. Everything
Speaker 1: I do. I'm making the next way. I'm make a
Speaker 1: tent packing this way, ten packing the next way, tim
Speaker 1: packing the next way. Keep going. They said, any else,
Speaker 1: we're not get big. You got kids it, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got three of them. You feel like you want your
Speaker 1: kids being music. They love music. That's a crazy thing,
Speaker 1: like since they were since they was like months old.
Speaker 1: Like my daughter she used I used to make beats.
Speaker 1: She'll be dancing while I make beat, Like she couldn't
Speaker 1: even walt me dancing. And my son hill ratch, he'd
Speaker 1: be like doing this. One'll be having him with uh
Speaker 1: hind he played with hinders a little bit sometimes and
Speaker 1: uh he was trying to teach hinders how to wrap im.
Speaker 1: So he just got the swag already. So I know
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. Uh he like to chose the one. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the best and the worst thing about your success?
Speaker 1: At this point, you believe, I mean the worst the
Speaker 1: worst thing is always the entitlement. But if you don't
Speaker 1: got people feeling entitled to your success, then you ain't
Speaker 1: doing it right. Because everybody want to sing, everybody want
Speaker 1: to be part of the winning team, so that means
Speaker 1: that you're doing something right. So it's like the worst thing,
Speaker 1: but then it's you gotta look at it as a
Speaker 1: good thing because they entitled because you're doing it right. Then,
Speaker 1: Like the best thing to my success is seeing how
Speaker 1: far I'm going versus how far I can go, Like
Speaker 1: keep reaching out to go further so like, what's your
Speaker 1: the whole like relationship status right now? I got like,
Speaker 1: judging from the freestyle he came to my showing spit,
Speaker 1: that's a wild boy. Yeah what was that line? What's
Speaker 1: the one I'm gonna make him do something and do
Speaker 1: something with so and so and something. Yeah this man?
Speaker 1: Why oh yeah? It's like my god, because it's like
Speaker 1: like the way I look at the relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: he keeping around, keeping around, Not the way little bush
Speaker 1: he feln't tell you what it is man, The way
Speaker 1: I look at relationship, like it's not about entitlement, like
Speaker 1: feeling like I own you. It should be like I'm
Speaker 1: adding on to your happiness. So it's not like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to control you. Like like growing up like I don't,
Speaker 1: it's been crazy ship like where like I'll be fuking
Speaker 1: with the girls, you know, for all my partners and
Speaker 1: I ain't even know and I found out later, but
Speaker 1: like at that time, I'm in high school, so that
Speaker 1: type of ship would be like, damn, bitch, you could
Speaker 1: have told me. But now it's like not that I
Speaker 1: expect that from a girl. But like if that happened,
Speaker 1: it like ship, what it did? Man? So I still
Speaker 1: funt with you for you rather you whole. It could
Speaker 1: be a girl selling pussy like if she's a great person,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna still funk with her, like because that's you,
Speaker 1: but not saying I'm a cover liken the You're gonna
Speaker 1: be my little friend. Like so it's like I just
Speaker 1: know me, And relationships right now is probably like beet
Speaker 1: locking in like just ain't the thing right now, But
Speaker 1: being a having a genuine friend that's or a genuine
Speaker 1: friend or two next to you, like yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: benefit takeing wrong, trip bound or something you know, or
Speaker 1: like god, just vibing with each other. That's like more
Speaker 1: of the thing because it's more of like finding the
Speaker 1: girl who understands you as a man and that you successful.
Speaker 1: So like as long as yeah, that's what it should be.
Speaker 1: As long as y'are vibing and happy with each other,
Speaker 1: that's all. It shoudn't matter. It shouldn't matter like nothing else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like if I'm working with you, I ain't gonna get
Speaker 1: mad if you like would have nothing to get like
Speaker 1: that that's what you chose to do. So I get it,
Speaker 1: like I ain't tripping, but ship you might not get
Speaker 1: treated the same, but like as they're like what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: but like I'm still in a long term. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: the long term, but I'm still a funk with you
Speaker 1: for you because you're a great person. But like so
Speaker 1: if you ever see me, I don't get discouraged because
Speaker 1: I still love you to say just like, don't get discouraged.
Speaker 1: I should love you to say, just I'm vibing right
Speaker 1: here for now. I would see you later because you
Speaker 1: were vibing right there and I didn't have a problem
Speaker 1: with this. Yeah yeah, yeah. People say keeping the player,
Speaker 1: keeping it p I just say, man being yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: letting female sept for them, that's your story where he
Speaker 1: is now, Like my yes, from now, he can have
Speaker 1: a completely different story. Like there's just one and that's
Speaker 1: just because I saw like some little I saw some
Speaker 1: little um some little stuff like on the blogs, maybe
Speaker 1: about one girl that you were in love with. Then
Speaker 1: now you're maybe having a couple of issues. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So you wanna you want to
Speaker 1: talk about that or we want to I break that down,
Speaker 1: so like because you got call on names or no
Speaker 1: ship like that, but just you know, speak on the
Speaker 1: situation because we're all aware. So so we're gonna call
Speaker 1: the first girl girl one for the second one girl too.
Speaker 1: So okay, so they got it missed up. I was
Speaker 1: what girl wanted for almost two years. So we um,
Speaker 1: you know, she caught me cheating and stuff this and that,
Speaker 1: and we we broke up like maybe for for five
Speaker 1: months after I said she couldn't get over, but we
Speaker 1: know what really happened. She turned up. I wanted to
Speaker 1: see what's outside, and it's like, you can't come back
Speaker 1: after that. You can't come back inside once you go outside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like not saying we can't be cool, it's just this,
Speaker 1: ain't you So it's like once you dick bit Yeah yeah, god,
Speaker 1: hey man, but I ain't tripping I was. I want
Speaker 1: to tripping about it. It's just like if that's what
Speaker 1: you choose, like then go that route, like not saying
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna hate you. I'm still a funk with you,
Speaker 1: but not the way I was, Not the way I was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So now then it's like having a girl, like how
Speaker 1: the girl to get in the mix. I actually met
Speaker 1: her in Miami, um way after we broke up, like
Speaker 1: after my birthday actually this year, um earlier this year.
Speaker 1: So man, Miami. We just vibe off back like since
Speaker 1: the first day and we were just kicking it. So
Speaker 1: Drake Drake had rented me to his house. He was
Speaker 1: house house like crazy like, so I just had to
Speaker 1: stay at the house and I flew my mama down there.
Speaker 1: So we had the house vibing for like a good
Speaker 1: week and we were just you know, Valentine's. They came up.
Speaker 1: Some stuff happened when in the in the d M
Speaker 1: s and I was, yeah, so I ain't going to
Speaker 1: Jamaica and you to a girl three. No, it was
Speaker 1: girl girl Too Jamaica, and like the blocks picked up
Speaker 1: on it. But they never knew what they were talking
Speaker 1: about because they were saying that I cheated on a
Speaker 1: Girl one with Girl Too, when you actually new Girl
Speaker 1: Too from the beginning a new Girls. I met a
Speaker 1: girl too after we broke up. Oh but you never
Speaker 1: cheated because you guys a girl you and Girl one
Speaker 1: were already like pretty much done. Yeah, so they was,
Speaker 1: so they never knew, but they you know, I how
Speaker 1: the blogs go, They always met stuff up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they stretched it to the max for no reason. But
Speaker 1: I mean me and girl two weeks we're good. We're close.
Speaker 1: You know that's that's like a wild boy she taught prospect.
Speaker 1: Yeah basically, Yeah, she definitely priorities. Girl, tell you know
Speaker 1: who you are man, you need to typen up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she she's a great girls. I feel like she
Speaker 1: just added on to me. You know, that's and we
Speaker 1: don't need no exclusive ship because we u and it's
Speaker 1: great vibe. That's just life stuff. That's just life stuff.
Speaker 1: But she understands me as a man, like that's what,
Speaker 1: that's what and that shows her maturity and like and
Speaker 1: like really understanding the man facts. What if he was
Speaker 1: on some other bullshit like just lying to the female
Speaker 1: stringing them alone. You gotta respect to that man telling
Speaker 1: his truth and where he is right now. Yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 1: like my as like that really taught me, like not
Speaker 1: a lot of girls no more so it's like I
Speaker 1: tell like me girl telling what it is, not like
Speaker 1: I'm just out here a lot of holes, car, I'm
Speaker 1: really not Like after my break up really made me
Speaker 1: look at like a lot of these bits like right bad,
Speaker 1: this is what made me look at him like I
Speaker 1: don't even want to even And that's just like the vibe.
Speaker 1: So that could that could that could play a part
Speaker 1: of that. What was talking about the earlier following off
Speaker 1: to just getting too overconsumed into what you have access to?
Speaker 1: That because I was got plenty of access, but don't
Speaker 1: mean you gotta use all the access facts, I mean
Speaker 1: too many like little famous ship that dar me, I
Speaker 1: don't even spun unless I gotta know you in person.
Speaker 1: Maybe if we're in person and maybe you know you'd
Speaker 1: be one. So with some of the should you do
Speaker 1: to stay focusing grounded and humble and ship? Um? Actually,
Speaker 1: I think when keating your humble is my drive to
Speaker 1: um want more because I always feel like I don't
Speaker 1: don't do enough, Like yeah, I got number one on
Speaker 1: the charts, I got nine songs on the billboard, but
Speaker 1: I want more. So it's like I gotta go harder
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna stop till I get all the
Speaker 1: songs on the charts. Hundred mm. Yeah, it's hard. You're
Speaker 1: in the right company, Yeah, I mean I'm only twenty three.
Speaker 1: I got now per cent of the charts, so I
Speaker 1: feel I could do I can get a hundred percent
Speaker 1: of charts at least fifty. I don't make its possible here,
Speaker 1: you put your minds over for real. Definitely, what's some
Speaker 1: ship you got coming up that people might not know? Um?
Speaker 1: I got, of course, you know the Kanye songs coming
Speaker 1: out on his album. I got a single with Gucci
Speaker 1: Man that me and thirty Rock did. I got, Uh,
Speaker 1: me and cord ain't been locked in. We um we
Speaker 1: have to make some good music. He called it the
Speaker 1: Grammar Grammy nominated album. So mostly gonna be produced by me.
Speaker 1: So that's that's my focus right now. On the Cornea album.
Speaker 1: What artists would you bring back that has passed away
Speaker 1: back to life the work? It's it's it's for sure.
Speaker 1: That's probably hard to X and J man. What I
Speaker 1: don't I ain't never cried with nobody died but I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that man. But I really broke down
Speaker 1: like that was crazy because Bro was like, uh, putting
Speaker 1: out you know, positivity, no matter his past. He was
Speaker 1: still putting out like positive vibes and stuff. So then
Speaker 1: away Brodad was on the street ship when he was
Speaker 1: just going there to go by motorcycle. Yeah, but like
Speaker 1: you know, ship happens. That would be definitely like one
Speaker 1: out bringing back to work with he uh, he definitely
Speaker 1: like he didn't even comparable. He like, uh, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what's the big artist like which is different?
Speaker 1: Like uh, you said Michael Jackson types like he definitely
Speaker 1: like he definitely was gonna be one of the greats. No,
Speaker 1: he I didn't know how hard he was he passed.
Speaker 1: I felt bad about every song on his album Multi
Speaker 1: it's multi platinum, every song like from song once to nine,
Speaker 1: like every song multiple platinum. So that's big. And it's
Speaker 1: his first album. Who to goat to you like in
Speaker 1: the wrap ship right now in the wrap like completely overall.
Speaker 1: That's a hard one because it's like, honestly, it's like
Speaker 1: what to me is like out of Kanye and Drake.
Speaker 1: It's like Kanye just because of creativity, and then what
Speaker 1: he did in the fashion world just him, just him
Speaker 1: overalls and business man then it's drape because the charts
Speaker 1: man don't be running the charts over a decade. So
Speaker 1: if I had to pick one, it will be uh,
Speaker 1: I can't even really pick. It's like it's like they
Speaker 1: it's like the good business move. It's two different, two
Speaker 1: different day up there in two different, two different ways
Speaker 1: like businessman art and then with Draco businessman too. So
Speaker 1: you can't forget about your face. Definitely yeah, and then
Speaker 1: definitely flute up for show that man running like man,
Speaker 1: I'm like you can running Atlanta for minute? And then
Speaker 1: baby one of my favorite appitude that man hard but
Speaker 1: greats overall, Like that's crazy. Ye, So lifestyle ship, your
Speaker 1: day has just started. What's the ship Jacob got to have?
Speaker 1: Like just around or just ship you gotta have for
Speaker 1: your day to go right from top to bottom, Like
Speaker 1: the first thing you do when you wake up, got
Speaker 1: to have is jewelry and mall certain female whatever. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, um my day to day definitely
Speaker 1: like at least make beats at least once to day,
Speaker 1: even if I don't, at least write some right lyrics
Speaker 1: write music, So do music every day? Yeah, definitely, Um,
Speaker 1: I really be chilling, honestly, I fly out a lot
Speaker 1: on beards in Atlanta. So so what some like some
Speaker 1: ship you like to do in your free time to
Speaker 1: like have fun or like to wind down and relax
Speaker 1: and enjoy yourself now like bowling anything you want to
Speaker 1: get him with bowling? Man called me like, uh, I
Speaker 1: like driving fast at right? So I just like driving.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna track sometimes drive fast. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about it. What's your favorite food mm hmmm, I'm
Speaker 1: wonna say a favorite foods, a favorite restaurant. It's probably
Speaker 1: Commodo in Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they're having some
Speaker 1: bad ship. And that's the first time you spent a
Speaker 1: lot of money on. You got your first check, my
Speaker 1: first check I think I spent. I was in London.
Speaker 1: I had gout like a hundred, ten thousands something like that.
Speaker 1: It was from uh, I just got paid from future album.
Speaker 1: I spent like twenty thousand of my kids. Soon as
Speaker 1: I woke up, that's all right, seen the check hit.
Speaker 1: I went at sleep Now, I'm like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: that one? I was at the malling like ten minutes.
Speaker 1: I got dressed so fast, and I just I knew
Speaker 1: I was spent like kids, but I didn't know. You
Speaker 1: had my first time in the country. So you gotta
Speaker 1: pay to pay the brain of ship back and they
Speaker 1: taxt me another like another four thousand just to bring
Speaker 1: all that ship back. Yeah, I get back home from
Speaker 1: now A. Yeah, that was the first thing I spent.
Speaker 1: It's a big money on the second part of no century.
Speaker 1: Everybody spending money on ju. When I spoke to you
Speaker 1: last you said you feel like, um, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: one of the biggest on the miss cultes, biggest artists
Speaker 1: in the world. I think that's what you told me definitely,
Speaker 1: So talk to us about you know, what supports that
Speaker 1: feeling and why you feel like that. Just the vibe
Speaker 1: of music I'm making from my album in general, um,
Speaker 1: plus the connections I have but just my artistry and
Speaker 1: and and told them because a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on in my head. But now I'm
Speaker 1: putting it all Like we'll just put it all out there,
Speaker 1: right it's visually or even in the music and everything.
Speaker 1: So I'll be able to do that where be even
Speaker 1: where was what I'm thinking about? So like everybody gonna
Speaker 1: be like I already know what they're on there like
Speaker 1: this man, just what is this? Folks? They're gonna look
Speaker 1: at it crazy and first than they're gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be the way why do you say looking at the crazy?
Speaker 1: Like what kind of music is? Because we pous the
Speaker 1: just the vision and all, you know, because I'm growing up,
Speaker 1: you know, I was always like like all my bros
Speaker 1: and stuff is in the streets on the crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: But I was the one, like I was the one
Speaker 1: at home make it beace like not doing the crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: Now say they don't comfort That's just I was thinking
Speaker 1: differently than them. So it's like I always had ideas
Speaker 1: just growing up from back from that then that that
Speaker 1: I just want to put out now. But it still represents, like,
Speaker 1: you know, doing the right thing at the same time,
Speaker 1: do you feel like people be sleeping on you as
Speaker 1: an artist because you you are successful as a producer. Definitely.
Speaker 1: They it's like they're gonna expect a certain thing when
Speaker 1: they hear my project or hear me wrap as an
Speaker 1: artist who like, I'm gonna give everybody what they don't
Speaker 1: expect because what they don't expect is what you're here.
Speaker 1: All right, they spent what's already out there, We were
Speaker 1: doing that. We're going to the other route, they said,
Speaker 1: we're not getting big back to a little bit of lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Like when you kind of told us your favorite restaurant,
Speaker 1: but what's your favorite food? My favorite food like, um, yeah, chickenwing.
Speaker 1: It'd be so silful for artists and producers. I love
Speaker 1: it fast, uh sweet sweet chili pepper springs, okay American, Okay, sweet, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can mix it. You can mix some meingle and
Speaker 1: wings jay, just a new just a new day. I
Speaker 1: might have to try that to see what it's like.
Speaker 1: Sweet chili. I've had sweet chili alone. That's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I've never had pepper ranch or even if
Speaker 1: you ain't got sweet chili, tried braids wing with pepper
Speaker 1: spre Now that sounds a little bit more doable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta your three kids by your same by the
Speaker 1: same moment. Oh it's two girls. I got two baby
Speaker 1: mamas with it probably a hum yeah deal. One Now
Speaker 1: we like we yeah, we cords him like we barely talk.
Speaker 1: So it's like just speak to him when you have to.
Speaker 1: But they know it ain't no beef, Like they ain't
Speaker 1: gonna put me on child's everything, ain't taking carol. So
Speaker 1: like it's just cords. It good good relationship though, like
Speaker 1: that it ain't unhealthy. You don't feel like you never
Speaker 1: get bad with that one. Ana, I look at I
Speaker 1: just look at women so different now, like in a
Speaker 1: good way. Like we're like I'm just so picky now.
Speaker 1: So it's like I want to like it's like women
Speaker 1: I used to touch I wouldn't even touch me more so,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just they followed that category. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: just followed that category. I want. He said he's ascended,
Speaker 1: he's elevated. He's like, no, shades, you're on some equally yolkship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like just on your birthday. That's right here. I understand
Speaker 1: what the man saying, capital but I get it. December,
Speaker 1: get it just like you would get it of a gymnil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my son and we exactly sits months apart. Okay, my
Speaker 1: simme to his June too. He's saying he wants someone
Speaker 1: equally yoke. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. You're just
Speaker 1: saying you're just making cole of bad decision when you
Speaker 1: were definitely like I got one pregnant and was like
Speaker 1: I got the other one pregnant like weeks later. So like,
Speaker 1: are your kids saying they get Yeah, they're three weeks apart. Damn.
Speaker 1: I mean somebody was getting busy said because they're gonna
Speaker 1: get older and said anyway, so yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 1: So do y'all have like joint birthdays or like do
Speaker 1: that each get separate or like it's actually just way
Speaker 1: too close to make a big deal out about the
Speaker 1: altim or they get separate birthdays. I would like to
Speaker 1: do you know, one big birthday, which would be firing. Yah,
Speaker 1: it's probably best. You know, they mom's young, so the
Speaker 1: probably best to keep separated right now. Yeah, they do?
Speaker 1: Do they know their siblings? Okay, you didn't know that, Like, um,
Speaker 1: my my daughter know that's her brother. My brother know
Speaker 1: that's his sister. So they'd be knowing, like they're smartest him.
Speaker 1: My daughter just spoiled my son just he spoiled too,
Speaker 1: or so they just know how to My son is
Speaker 1: a manipulator. My daughter just don't listen how you bounding?
Speaker 1: Like being so busy in the avasa for your kids.
Speaker 1: That's the hard part, um especially I got like two
Speaker 1: kids live out of state, and you know, one to
Speaker 1: live here, so and make it hard because you gotta,
Speaker 1: um like, go get them from out of town, bring
Speaker 1: him somewhere. Sometimes I when I'm out of town, fly
Speaker 1: them down. We're like with their grandma or with my mom.
Speaker 1: Fly down with them somewhere, like if I'm in Miami,
Speaker 1: and so bring them down. And that makes it easier
Speaker 1: too because I can still spend time with them didn't
Speaker 1: gonna work, spend time, gonna go work until they go
Speaker 1: back home. But it's a process some sort. How many
Speaker 1: people you lost alone on on the way your journey,
Speaker 1: Like Famine Man was a friend m family members. That's
Speaker 1: the crazy thing I growing up, Like I met my cousin,
Speaker 1: but I was never close with him, so like it's
Speaker 1: still love. There're just I ain't really talked to him,
Speaker 1: but like it's just the lack of a relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like we don't hanging around each other as much.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of beef in the family about
Speaker 1: who knows what. But then you got like friends, people don't.
Speaker 1: My friends are lost a lot because they don't understand.
Speaker 1: They'd be like they always quit to pull the Hollywood
Speaker 1: car or you ain't never got time to do nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I don't even understand like Nigga trying to really
Speaker 1: be a billionaire, Like I ain't put to be a
Speaker 1: billion and sent on the block talking to y'all all
Speaker 1: day about what's going on in the hood. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably cool, like probably being the video bring you
Speaker 1: all out. But then you got you got homeboys that
Speaker 1: understand that. So it's like they know that you don't
Speaker 1: talk every day, but when you talk to him, it's
Speaker 1: all love. Yeah, And it was just like you know,
Speaker 1: niggas will be doing a little bitch ass ship like
Speaker 1: like you changing this and that. Like, man, you' don't
Speaker 1: never get it never ever. They never understand to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gott any regrets? Actually don't. You would think that
Speaker 1: I do. But I feel like I'm I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a reason for everything and why I did it.
Speaker 1: Um Like, even if its a mistake, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't take loss. You know, I learned lessons. So
Speaker 1: I just feel like, even if it feels a bad mistake,
Speaker 1: it was probably a lesson to be learned because I
Speaker 1: won't ever do it again. Do it twice? Who taught
Speaker 1: your mores? Um? Well me, it was you know, learning
Speaker 1: a lot stuff and then my mentor uh I g
Speaker 1: over there he uh just like giving me like stuff,
Speaker 1: stuff that I wouldn't really think of, like really think
Speaker 1: of it. He more like, uh like say what's example,
Speaker 1: like saying I'm going through like baby mama issues here? Man,
Speaker 1: Then what you do? You're norm both and I don't
Speaker 1: talk to him, and then they'll be they'll be trying
Speaker 1: to let's see it can do whatever you want, you
Speaker 1: do it and it worked, So that just be like
Speaker 1: little stuff like that, like the help out. I'll be learning.
Speaker 1: It's your love for making music and being a producer
Speaker 1: and then artist so deep that if tomorrow you can
Speaker 1: no longer make money off of it, you would still
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, because I didn't do it for the money.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I mean, I knew you even
Speaker 1: made money, but I ain't. No producers like riches hell,
Speaker 1: I thought that was just like there's a few. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we get more than for real on the songs. And
Speaker 1: it's like when you start making beat the only thing
Speaker 1: that you're just like, man, he beats hardest, but you
Speaker 1: just you're just listening to him. And then like once
Speaker 1: you started making money, you still don't even see it
Speaker 1: because you're like a couple. Thats cool. And when ship
Speaker 1: really rolling in and you get like like over like
Speaker 1: six figures every every quarter, and you're like, man, this
Speaker 1: ship ye be something else? What you do? What you
Speaker 1: do If you're sending a beat off and the artists
Speaker 1: send a song back and you don't like it, um,
Speaker 1: I lie cool. But then like sometimes this song that
Speaker 1: I don't like, but I'll take so much out and
Speaker 1: restarts to the song and then make them redo it.
Speaker 1: That's it, like if I really see potential in there.
Speaker 1: But sometimes i'd be like it's cool and stuff or
Speaker 1: sometimes a lit and be like the beat taking because
Speaker 1: it's all about Yeah, it's your art, my art too,
Speaker 1: and I and I rarely like music, like like songs
Speaker 1: that artists do. So how you deal with like ind
Speaker 1: this like if in the artist wanted to work with you. Um,
Speaker 1: I always telling it ain't about the money, even know
Speaker 1: they still gotta pay me, but it's more about it
Speaker 1: ain't about you just giving them a beat even if
Speaker 1: their end yards. I still want to touch the song,
Speaker 1: just like they gotta have a budget, like like bring
Speaker 1: me a dog real quick, and uh, we're gonna lock
Speaker 1: it in for real. I'm just not gonna get his
Speaker 1: beat for the dog and like you're gonna run off
Speaker 1: and drop the song to him. We ain't doing that song,
Speaker 1: Like what is the song? Bad and blow Up? And
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, you got this right? Did this with him?
Speaker 1: Hell like you said bad and blow up? So you
Speaker 1: got a little bulls up little somebody like you said
Speaker 1: went up like, yeah, yeah, because that now I was
Speaker 1: I was saying, I wonder where the nigga is that,
Speaker 1: because I ain't seen nothing from But I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying though, because it's like, even if the song
Speaker 1: is whack your Name and it's like the artist part
Speaker 1: of it is whacking, the beat was dope your Name
Speaker 1: is still on the whack niggas first. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's still a collaborative whack effort between
Speaker 1: you and whoever. The niggad is like they might do
Speaker 1: both of us put this together and they're like, like
Speaker 1: you had input on the whack part. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, we're gonna we're gonna do this
Speaker 1: the right way. Then session bringing the cash and we
Speaker 1: ain't leaving until until we got a good song. You
Speaker 1: came and did the ship show that time wherever Man
Speaker 1: he taught me because at that time, you know, I
Speaker 1: was making a certain type of music, but I'm definitely
Speaker 1: stepping away from that image of music I was making
Speaker 1: at that time. So now it's like, now I would
Speaker 1: do it, But I got all the way up to
Speaker 1: the same day. It was crazy. I had a video
Speaker 1: shoot at the same time. It was a video shoot
Speaker 1: that day. I want I want to I want to
Speaker 1: hear the super griming story like making it. Why did
Speaker 1: you send in the code that or did you cook
Speaker 1: it up in front of cod that. I want to
Speaker 1: hear the old story behind it. So the beat originally, Um,
Speaker 1: of course, of course Future get every beat that I do,
Speaker 1: like every beat that's out Future though heard it before,
Speaker 1: But I really made the beat for a little baby. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that's when me and baby they uh really
Speaker 1: isn't get And I played it for him that day
Speaker 1: and he he actually didn't pick that beat like I
Speaker 1: went through like honey beats. Maybe because he was sleepy though,
Speaker 1: but I ain't think no ano it. I just went along.
Speaker 1: Maybe a few months later, Um me and call that
Speaker 1: lot down for his album. We didn't get nothing. So
Speaker 1: I'm chilling the studio. I'm like, man, I call that
Speaker 1: pull up, like randomly just said pull up. I told
Speaker 1: him pull up. He didn't pull up. He told me
Speaker 1: he was on the way. He was stilling on when
Speaker 1: he probably came like six hours later, and we did
Speaker 1: super Grammar going through beat. He just heard it. That's
Speaker 1: how we did super Grammar. Just like that. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know it was a hit. So I was like this,
Speaker 1: I felt like the song was cool. But my engineer
Speaker 1: from Miami, so he was like, prest a hit song.
Speaker 1: Hmm yeah, so end up being the hit. And I
Speaker 1: was like, damn. He knew. That's always the case though,
Speaker 1: like people say that ship all the time, like I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be that. I knew it sound good, but
Speaker 1: I ain't ye and then it turns out to be that.
Speaker 1: He feels like it's a recipe for hits or magic.
Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah, you definitely it is a recipe.
Speaker 1: You just gotta learn that recipe. But uh, it's definitely
Speaker 1: like you still never know. At the same time, it's
Speaker 1: like you might vote with this song a lot, then
Speaker 1: it might not be like might not go big. Like
Speaker 1: one of my favorite songs in Future Did was Nowhere
Speaker 1: We Did on the Super Flush soundtrack. I thought that
Speaker 1: song was just crazy. I thought that was like wait
Speaker 1: for you, It just ain't you know it slept on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that the recipe changed for hits. Um definitely do because
Speaker 1: the infra music changed at the same time. So just
Speaker 1: keeping it up, keeping up with the hands and what
Speaker 1: they like. But you never know. What they like. That's
Speaker 1: a crazy part. So it's like it's a recipe. Is
Speaker 1: just it's a hidden recipe. You just gotta figured out
Speaker 1: how you deal with rappers that might be an eyes
Speaker 1: with each other as a producer, like like like rappers
Speaker 1: and beating with each other. Man, I stay out of
Speaker 1: I'm a business man. What y'all got going on? As
Speaker 1: y'all like you did that act funny with you though,
Speaker 1: like if you it is some rappers that that that
Speaker 1: like tend like I said, like too, like they don't
Speaker 1: look at me. It's like all of something, but they
Speaker 1: do tend to like move away just because at the
Speaker 1: same time, you never know. You never know because the
Speaker 1: streets the streets, so you never know. Like that's like
Speaker 1: me into it with a nigga that's that's over there.
Speaker 1: But I'm cool with one nigga over there, and it's
Speaker 1: like ship. He might pull up and drop the pin
Speaker 1: one day, so I'll be understanding. I don't never look
Speaker 1: at it like um, like they're changing and I just
Speaker 1: look that like man, I'm standing out. They deal with
Speaker 1: their circumstances. But I feel like something like when it
Speaker 1: comes to that kind of ship, like some artists have
Speaker 1: the power to like I don't want to say squash
Speaker 1: ship between whoever and whatever, but just like for instance,
Speaker 1: just like on Pluto's new album, like Kodak and south
Speaker 1: Side have had their issues or whatever, but Kodak killed
Speaker 1: Voodoo like murdered it, and it was the perfect combination,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying with south Side beat and
Speaker 1: his vocals and Shipped on the hook and you know
Speaker 1: Pluto's verse like that that's really like one of like
Speaker 1: another outside of like wait for You. That's really one
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs that like really touched my soul
Speaker 1: off of the album. And if it would have been
Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of bullshit in the mix or
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. However, the ship worked out
Speaker 1: for them to make it. If that never would have happened,
Speaker 1: then we never would have had that song facts, And
Speaker 1: I was I was actually really happy when they when
Speaker 1: they when they actually end up talking, because it's like, man,
Speaker 1: we know yet, yeah, yeah, I got a mouth somehow,
Speaker 1: yeah got you know, but he is a good dude
Speaker 1: and he definitely got a good heart. So I did
Speaker 1: see like how he used to add first and now
Speaker 1: like he did change a lot in a good way.
Speaker 1: He Um definitely been more positive since I've been with him,
Speaker 1: So he has a good person work with two shout
Speaker 1: out about them, Yeah, shout out about them for being
Speaker 1: grown man about the ship. Great music can be made,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Good energy? Yeah? Yeah? What's
Speaker 1: something you want to say to the big facts fans, supporters,
Speaker 1: your fans as an artist, as a producer, and upcoming producers.
Speaker 1: Give him some game and some motivation before you slap um. Definitely.
Speaker 1: I say this every every every interview, every you know,
Speaker 1: every time something never stopped, even if you think you're
Speaker 1: doing it wrong. Just there's always think of what you're
Speaker 1: doing the uh you know correctly and keep going. But
Speaker 1: just never stopped, because if you stop everything you work for,
Speaker 1: you'll be starting over. You never know how far. You
Speaker 1: never know, you never know how closer with to getting
Speaker 1: what you want. Interesting way to look at it, but
Speaker 1: I imagine if I stopped making beats the day before
Speaker 1: we made Super Grid, I could like this because I'm
Speaker 1: sure you had them these days. Actually, no, I have.
Speaker 1: I love music. It's been times while I was like
Speaker 1: working with this artist, but it's always like never like
Speaker 1: fun working period. Yeah, I love it, like I'll just
Speaker 1: do it for free if I if it was it
Speaker 1: feels for no money, I'll still be doing it. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like a big fast ground, I ain't having
Speaker 1: no money. I need to read. No, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: But like I like, if it was it was making music,
Speaker 1: had no revenue game, I would still be doing it
Speaker 1: just because I love it. Like artists like that painting ship,
Speaker 1: Like they don't know that they ship might become our bossle.
Speaker 1: They're just painting the ship and the next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't talk about that offline. We're trying to be
Speaker 1: a billionaire. Like, you don't need to get paid to
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