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Speaker 3: Here. You are listening to episode two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: I connect with everyone from your favorite athletes to top

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Speaker 3: and everything in between. We all go through hurdles in life,

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Speaker 3: conversations with the one, the Only, Charlaine Flanagan. This episode

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Speaker 3: little refresher. Schlainne is a four time Olympian a New

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Speaker 3: York City Marathon champion. She's also a coach for Nike's

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Speaker 3: To everyone that came out during this week of awesomeness

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Speaker 3: To everyone that ran the marathon yesterday. If you're listening

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Speaker 3: I am over at Emily A body with that. Let's

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Speaker 4: I'm so amped today to be here with Slaine Flanagan.

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Speaker 4: Welcome today. So excited to be here with you. I

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Speaker 4: Conveniently right before the twenty eighteen Boston Marathon, a great

437
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Speaker 4: time for Selene and I both. And I was out

438
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Speaker 4: there struggle city like drenched. I think I was wearing

439
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 4: a black trash bag. It was very like, very chic

440
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 4: and just running by people. I'm so miserable, and I'm like,

441
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Speaker 4: you're doing great.

442
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Speaker 2: Yeah, doing so well. And I mean that day, even

443
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Speaker 2: for you, it totally came into play.

444
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're talking about my my potty break.

445
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Speaker 3: I mean like I'm like hinting at that, but like

446
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: boosting others up, has always seemed to play you well

447
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: for you.

448
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: So I feel like Dez owes me, you know, a

449
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: big pat on the back because she I had to

450
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Speaker 1: make a pit stop during the marathon in twenty eighteen

451
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Speaker 1: when we were all experiencing hypothermia, so I just wanted

452
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Speaker 1: to duck in a port a potty to get warm

453
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Speaker 1: real quick, and she said, hey, I'll hang back and

454
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Speaker 1: I'll wait for you and try to slow down. The

455
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: field noticed I went in there, and they took off,

456
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: so she hung back. But the concept is the act

457
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: of her trying to help me. I think then bolstered

458
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: her to be like, Okay, I'm fine, I'm back in it,

459
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: and she actually then was wrote history. So her act

460
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: of kindness towards me because earlier in the race, like

461
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: literally mile five, she's like, yo, I'm dropping out today,

462
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's mile five does and she's like, yeah, no,

463
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Speaker 1: it's not my day. I don't feel good, and I'm

464
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Speaker 1: like it does. I was like, I was like, yo,

465
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: no one feels good. But yeah, I think she thought

466
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: maybe like other people felt good and I'm like, no,

467
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: no one feels good. But then I think after that

468
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: little interaction of the porter potty step, she's like, Yo, yeah,

469
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't feel good. Maybe I feel

470
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Speaker 1: better than I think, And so it just allowed her

471
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Speaker 1: to have a shift of you know, like some positivity

472
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Speaker 1: with it.

473
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know, I mean not just that day,

474
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Speaker 4: but throughout your career you've obviously had races that didn't

475
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Speaker 4: go as you had hoped for so many Maybe two

476
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Speaker 4: points of advice. One, what does someone do if they're

477
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Speaker 4: in the middle of it and they realize that they

478
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 4: need to pivot? Like maybe you lace up, You're gonna

479
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: run the New York Marathon and tomorrow like all that

480
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: you've got is less than you'd hoped.

481
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Speaker 2: How does someone keep going in that moment?

482
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Speaker 1: Well, I can say this, I've had more mediocre, disappointing

483
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Speaker 1: races than I've had great races or exceeded my expectations.

484
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Speaker 1: So the norm is like more towards like a little

485
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: bit disappointed, right, But yeah, pivoting is essential.

486
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: I liked it.

487
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Speaker 1: In my head as I approach each race that I've

488
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Speaker 1: run in my careers, I have like a list of

489
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: three goals so that you're not written in just like

490
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: obsessed with just the one goal, because then if that

491
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: one thing goes wrong, then you're like, oh, I'm done,

492
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Speaker 1: can't do it, like you want to like just give up.

493
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Speaker 1: You can't have that happen. So, because believe me, I've

494
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: done that before. So I always like to list out

495
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: like I got goal one, goal two, goal three. On

496
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Speaker 1: the way here. Alisa and I were talking about like

497
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: she's like someone talking. We were talking about goals, and

498
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: she's like, well, I've already achieved my goal. And I'm like, wait,

499
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Speaker 1: the gun hasn't gone off because she's running on Sunday.

500
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Speaker 1: She's like, no, just get to the start line healthy,

501
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: Like that's my number one goal. So it can be

502
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Speaker 1: you know, really big audacious goals, or it can be

503
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: like very concrete, just like simple things like just get

504
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: to the start line healthy. That's awesome, you know. So

505
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: for like me, i'd be like, Okay, yeah, on a

506
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: perfect day, I'm winning on you know. If not, if

507
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Speaker 1: I'm not winning, then maybe I'm running a PB or

508
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: maybe I'm placing top ten, you know. And so like

509
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: when things were going awry, I would just be like, Okay,

510
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: well that's not happening. I'll go I'll move on to

511
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: goal number two now, something to focus on and like

512
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: that's tangible.

513
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Speaker 4: What would you say the I feel like you said

514
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 4: big Harry as describing a word for like big, hairy,

515
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: audacious goals. What would you say, The biggest, hairyest, most

516
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 4: audacious goal you've ever set has.

517
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Speaker 1: Been winning the New York City Marathon by far. Yeah,

518
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: it's hard. I had to face Mary Katani here so

519
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: many times, and she's really just a badass. So yeah,

520
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: this is this is where the world's best comes is

521
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: New York. Genuinely believe that.

522
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Speaker 4: And so then let's fast forward a little bit to

523
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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, you making the announcement that you're going to retire.

524
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Speaker 4: For you at that time coming off of back to

525
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Speaker 4: back knee surgeries, something that so many people I'm sure

526
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: are in your DMS about talking about injury and how

527
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: to navigate that experience, which can be so lonely for some.

528
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Speaker 4: Give us some insight into where your head was at

529
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 4: when you came to terms with the fact that this

530
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Speaker 4: was what was on the docket for you.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I was in denial that I was

532
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Speaker 1: going to have to go through knee surgery. So I

533
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: tried everything under the sun. My PT Colleen is here.

534
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Speaker 1: She and I came up with like everything that we

535
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Speaker 1: could do to not have surgery, because like that's the

536
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: last resort option, but it was inevitable. I had torn

537
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: on both knees, a significant amount of my potilla attendant

538
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: off the bone, so I now have cadaver tendons and

539
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: both knees screws. All suits are down. The prognosis was

540
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: not great. I sought out one of the best doctors

541
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: in the world for knee surgery and he asked me, like, well,

542
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: what's your goal And I said, uh, just to be

543
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: able to run again. And he's like, I can do that,

544
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: but he's like, I just want you to know, like

545
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: likely probably not any professional running, right, And I'm like, yeah,

546
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: we'll take that off the table. So I in my

547
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: mind was like, man, if I can just one run

548
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: ever again, that would be great. And then two, if

549
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: like I could just run a few times a week,

550
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: maybe thirty to sixty minutes, just enough to be able

551
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: to like run with my athletes, like man, I'll be

552
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: so happy. And here I am, so that's crazy. Yeah,

553
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Speaker 1: I mean I think I had a great surgeon. I'm

554
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: obviously really stubborn, and then I had great physical therapy.

555
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: I think the back half the surgeon can only do

556
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: so much. You really have to do a lot with

557
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: physical therapy it's essential. And then obviously a good diet

558
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: and taking care of yourself. But upon you know, those

559
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: two surgeries, I think when you stripped away like physical exercise,

560
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: I could not do anything for like, it was extremely painful.

561
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: First of all the surgeries they were it was really bad,

562
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: but being like bedridden and not being able to really

563
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: move much, from going from being so physically active and

564
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: then being like inside so much I was not good

565
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: for my mental health completely. I remember just feeling like

566
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: like who am I? This is like a former shell

567
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: of me, and like not just not feeling good at all.

568
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: So it's really was difficult time.

569
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Speaker 4: For Now that you've gone through that, I'm sure that

570
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: you're able to recognize that there are things that you

571
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: can do to maybe like boost that mental health or

572
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: reach out a little bit more.

573
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Speaker 2: And some reflections from that.

574
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Speaker 4: So for someone that may be going through that exact

575
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: experience right now, what do you have to offer them?

576
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: My mental s was like, oh, you know, I went

577
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: from I can't do this, I can't do this, I

578
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: can't do this, feeling sorry for myself, and then I

579
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: had to shift it and be like, well I can

580
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: do this, and then you know, feeding off the momentum

581
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: like oh I can get on crutches today, Oh I

582
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: get to I would celebrate the little tiniest things of

583
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: being like, oh I got out of my sweatpants today. Yeah,

584
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: like I took a shower today. I can do these

585
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: things instead of the I can't. And that just like

586
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: kept on just feeding on itself of like focusing on

587
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: what I can do instead of what I can't.

588
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: I think that, I mean, I would think that everyone's

589
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: probably gonna no their head when that's like what we

590
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: learned over the last you know, twelve sixteen eighteen months

591
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: was that we need to find those small wins and

592
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: take some happiness and the smaller joys. For you over

593
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: the last sixteen eighteen months, aside from spending more time

594
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Speaker 4: with Jack and now about to complete your six marathon

595
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: in for two days, what would you say have been

596
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: some of the small joys for you?

597
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it to me, the small joy is

598
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: like I think we took a lot of things for granted,

599
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: and so just the re emergence of the little things

600
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: and like the sense of gratitude of just like even

601
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: us sitting here all together, having events where we can

602
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: even just giving, like my friends a hug, touching one

603
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: another again, like just like the those kind of things.

604
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: Those have been like what we're like taken for granted.

605
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: Joys have become like huge joys to me.

606
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Speaker 4: If you had to articulate maybe a high and low

607
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: of this marathon journey for you, what would you say?

608
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: Those are?

609
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Hmmm, high, We'll start with the highs. One of my

610
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: favorite traditions that we started on this whole journey with

611
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: the women that I've traveled with is we have champagne

612
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: and fries after every marathon. So I always have like

613
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: that to look forward too, Like I get to the finish,

614
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yes, it's champagne in first time, So

615
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: that's I'd say that's been a high. And like just

616
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: having them there at the finish, like having people that

617
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: care about you at the finish makes it that much

618
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: more fun and that much more motivating to get to

619
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: the finish line as quick as possible. That combined with

620
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: the ability to have Jack with me at all of

621
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: these for the most part. He didn't come to Chicago

622
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: and Boston because that was a quick turnaround. But yeah,

623
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: just having that support team at the finish line has

624
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: been a huge low. We'd probably been walking in London.

625
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: It was like I was in a massive pain cave

626
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: in London. I misjudged my pacing and the last like

627
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: ten k five k were really really hard for me,

628
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: Like I was very, very uncomfortable and had to walk

629
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: for the first time into marathon. But it taught me

630
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot, Like now I actually think I'll be a

631
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: better coach and giving advice for the marathon because I

632
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: had never got and that bad of a place before.

633
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: So I actually think you can turn it into a positive.

634
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: I now can recommend, like I told the least a

635
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: couple of times already, I'm like, it's okay to walk.

636
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: Walking is very cool, It's great. You should walk if

637
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: you need more fluid, you've got a cramp. It can

638
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: actually go from like what could be a disaster of

639
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: a day and maybe not finishing to then you got it.

640
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't take long. Sometimes it's just thirty seconds, and

641
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: it changes the whole trajectory of the actual race.

642
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: By doing that, I mean speaking of a lease running

643
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: her first marathon here in New York, a lot of

644
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 4: other beginners. I mean, I would argue, if you like

645
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 4: you're you can be a beginner marathon or but if

646
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: you're about to go out for a marathon, then you're

647
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: a pretty experienced runner, I would hope. So for those

648
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: that are either tackling their first marathon here this weekend

649
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: or maybe thinking that one day they could want to

650
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: do something like that, what do you tell them in

651
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: terms of like maybe a best strategy tip or.

652
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean there's there's a lot of there's

653
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Speaker 1: a lot of things you could tell someone, but ultimately

654
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Speaker 1: they have to have like the desire to actually want

655
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Speaker 1: to do it, Like you shouldn't do it because you

656
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Speaker 1: feel pressure to do it. There needs to be a

657
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Speaker 1: genuine desire to do a marathon because there's nothing easy

658
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Speaker 1: about it. The training's not easy, the actual race is

659
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Speaker 1: not easy. So like you got to really want to

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Speaker 1: do it, and you got to know your reason why

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Speaker 1: you're doing it, and because if you don't have that,

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Speaker 1: why then you have a lot of lonely miles of

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out why you should put another foot

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Speaker 1: in front of in front of another. So yeah, you

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Speaker 1: just you got to know that reason why you want

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Speaker 1: to do it and genuinely feel it in your and

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Speaker 1: your soul.

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Speaker 3: Many of you know that is after my bedtime, and

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Speaker 4: That makes me think about the opportunity costs that goes

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Speaker 4: hand in hand with running a marathon, right, Like you'll

699
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: talk to so many runners and especially elites that talk

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Speaker 4: about not being able to go to family functions or

701
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Speaker 4: weddings because they have to incorporate certain training into their

702
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Speaker 4: routine and traveling just doesn't seem to you a part

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 2: When you think about some of.

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Speaker 4: The opportunity costs that you've undertaken, you know, over your career,

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Speaker 4: what does that bring to mind for you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you have a hard goal and

708
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Speaker 1: a big goal. There's always some sacrifices that go along

709
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Speaker 1: with it to try to achieve something big. And I

710
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: missed so many. I mean, I don't think I went

711
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Speaker 1: I didn't even go to a Lasa's wedding. I miss

712
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Speaker 1: so many of you know, friends and families gatherings, and

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Speaker 1: fortunately they were very understanding in my my, my big, hairy,

714
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Speaker 1: audacious goals. But yeah, now I now, I've tried to

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Speaker 1: invest my time in supporting other people a lot more now.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the sport can require some selfishness to a degree,

717
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Speaker 1: but it at the same time that selfishness also when

718
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Speaker 1: it does like play out, there's a lot of positive

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Speaker 1: that goes along with it. Like I don't regret some

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Speaker 1: of those decisions, even though they were really hard to

721
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Speaker 1: do and I felt like I was missing out a

722
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Speaker 1: lot and it would make me sad a lot of times.

723
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Speaker 1: But the joy that I also saw when I won

724
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Speaker 1: the New York City Marathon, on people that care about me,

725
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: their faces and the joy it brought them, then that's

726
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Speaker 1: just what you have to weigh the cost benefit.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting, right because I like, take a step back

728
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Speaker 4: and I ask myself slash, I'm about to ask you,

729
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Speaker 4: like if you had gone through the last year and

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Speaker 4: a half or two, Like, imagine if the COVID nineteen

731
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Speaker 4: pandemic happened ten years ago, right, Yeah, and we all

732
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Speaker 4: have this like very I would say, maybe a little

733
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Speaker 4: bit different of a perspective on life and everything now

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Speaker 4: than we did eighteen months ago. So if you think

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Speaker 4: about maybe some of those decisions at this point, having

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Speaker 4: had the experiences you have had with your family, do

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Speaker 4: you think that you may have made some of those

738
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Speaker 4: same decisions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean like missing out on some of those things. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good question. I don't know. I mean

741
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Speaker 1: I think at the same time, the pandemic is all

742
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Speaker 1: so made me realize like seizing the opportunity right in

743
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Speaker 1: front of me a little bit more, not to be reckless,

744
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: but like you just, I want to just throw myself

745
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Speaker 1: into things because, like you just, it's like you never

746
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: know kind of scenario. So now I feel like I'm

747
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: ending up seeing like yes to things that maybe I

748
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: would have been like no, like wait till later, wait

749
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Speaker 1: till later. I'm like kind of not in the wait

750
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Speaker 1: till later mode. I feel like a sense of urgency

751
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: of when an opportunity presents itself to be like Nope,

752
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: now's the time. Nope, now's the time. I think I

753
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: was like really good at delayed gratification, and now I'm like,

754
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Speaker 1: I get I get a little bit of worry because

755
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Speaker 1: of the pandemic of like Nope, we need to like

756
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Speaker 1: capitalize and we need to do it now.

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Speaker 4: For you, I mean, this is a simple segue into

758
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: why you chose to take on Project Eclipse as it's called. Now,

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Speaker 4: why you decided to make the call to run all

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Speaker 4: six marathons in this short time span. Why don't you

761
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Speaker 4: shed a little bit of light on that for us?

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Speaker 1: Okay, there there's a short answer and then there's like

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Speaker 1: a really long winded answer.

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Speaker 2: So how long is the long winded I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the short one. Is I would say,

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Speaker 1: the reason, like or why I'm doing it is I

767
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Speaker 1: like to just say because I can, And by that

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm capable of it and I can, so

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, does that make sense? Like I

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Speaker 1: because I can and not everyone can. When when the

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Speaker 1: schedule came out and I was like, oh wow, like

772
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Speaker 1: six marathons in forty two days, someone should do that?

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Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, like why why would I

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Speaker 1: say that? Someone else should like why not me? So

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Speaker 1: that's always been like a phrase that I've had in

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Speaker 1: my career of like, so, oh that would be great

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Speaker 1: to do. I'm like, well why not me? And I

778
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Speaker 1: think everyone should always be asking themselves like why not me?

779
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Speaker 1: Why can't that be me? And doing that? You know

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Speaker 1: that that big scary thing. But yeah, also I just, uh,

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Speaker 1: the reason more layers to it is I felt like,

782
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Speaker 1: basically I was struggling mentally and felt like very depressed

783
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Speaker 1: during the pandemic and retiring and going through knee surgeries,

784
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Speaker 1: and I missed having a goal I call it like

785
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: the pandemic, like a goalless abyss. And I just felt

786
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Speaker 1: the need to do something kind of hard again. And

787
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Speaker 1: I feel like when I'm doing hard things, I actually

788
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: feel more alive when I'm challenging myself that and I

789
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: just want to, yeah, showcase to young women that sport

790
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: can be for life and change your life for the better.

791
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Speaker 1: I'm grateful that running came into my life and I

792
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Speaker 1: went from an extremely shy young girl to you know,

793
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Speaker 1: a moderately shy adult now. And yeah, it's just it's

794
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Speaker 1: changed my life for the better, and I just felt

795
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Speaker 1: the need to just do something challenging. Again.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned going through that tough time of feeling a

797
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Speaker 4: little bit depressed during the pandemic. I'm sure many people

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Speaker 4: listening to this or watching this right now can certainly

799
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Speaker 4: relate to that. For you, having so many eyes on you,

800
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Speaker 4: does that make you feel some kind of way about

801
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Speaker 4: how you're supposed to quote unquote present yourself outwardly, like

802
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Speaker 4: Shleanne Flannegt is not supposed to be depressed.

803
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Speaker 1: Uh, I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I

804
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Speaker 1: I think I just am like pretty good at being

805
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: genuinely myself at least I try to like always do

806
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: a gut check of like are you genuinely doing this

807
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: because you want to or are you trying to people please?

808
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: And you know, to a degree, we all do things

809
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Speaker 1: to you know, be a people pleaser. But yeah, I

810
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Speaker 1: mean I didn't. I don't feel shy and sharing that, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't feel great during the pandemic. I think more

812
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: people can relate to that than not, And it's understandable,

813
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't know, I yeah, I just

814
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Speaker 1: I believe in trying to be as authentic as possible.

815
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Speaker 1: I'm probably not great at all the time, but yeah,

816
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Speaker 1: I try not to worry about what people think, and

817
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: if it is, you know, people think negative things, then

818
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well then we probably wouldn't be friends.

819
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Speaker 4: So we were there any considerations going into Project Eclipse

820
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Speaker 4: that like made you kind of for a second be like, wait,

821
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Speaker 4: is this the right thing?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

824
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Speaker 1: I mean I just generally worried maybe that I would

825
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: do something to my knees, and I didn't want to

826
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Speaker 1: compromise the hard work that my surgeon had done and

827
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Speaker 1: my PT done and just you know, getting back to

828
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: a good place of actually running. So I was definitely

829
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: worried about that. And I was able to use this

830
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Speaker 1: Nike Sports Research Lab and they've been monitoring my knees

831
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Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing and doing scans to make sure

832
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing any damage because at the end of

833
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: the day, I didn't want to be injured again, you know.

834
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Speaker 1: So while I wanted to do this, I was like, wait,

835
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Speaker 1: can I physically really do it? Just because it's here

836
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's here. So that's been really nice to

837
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Speaker 1: know that, like I have that, and then using inside tracker,

838
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: being able to track my biomarkers through my blood to

839
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Speaker 1: make sure I'm maintaining good health throughout this whole project,

840
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: and then obviously eating from rise and run. I mean,

841
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: I've got a team of people behind the scenes to

842
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: make sure. But like my ultimate worrying concern was is

843
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: just like staying healthy. I didn't want to be out

844
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Speaker 1: here being like, you know, breaking things and just you know,

845
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: looking like I was reckless. I want to be able

846
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: to promote health and wellness and taking care of yourself.

847
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: And so that's why I enlisted a really great support

848
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Speaker 1: system to be able to do it.

849
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Speaker 4: I mean, you're definitely highlighting something that is so important again,

850
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Speaker 4: this support system. I think so often we want to

851
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Speaker 4: prove to ourselves that like, I've got this on my own,

852
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 4: I can do it. But sometimes reaching out for help,

853
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 4: extending your hand and being like, hey, I can't do

854
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 4: this alone. Getting to that place of admitting that is.

855
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Speaker 1: The first I think I'm actually like too good at it.

856
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm like I need help, I need help, I need help.

857
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I'm an advocate. If you don't

858
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: know that area, like get the best people around you.

859
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: People have said like, oh, the success you've had and

860
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: like it's only because I'm I'm honest and be like

861
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that, like and I

862
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: need your help, Like I need help with this, I

863
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: need help, and like not being afraid to me. It's like,

864
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you find the best people

865
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Speaker 1: to help you.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember a circumstance where was there I mean,

867
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Speaker 4: was there a specific time that you reflect on where

868
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 4: maybe you weren't as good at that and you kind

869
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: of learned a lesson about it the hard way.

870
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a great story there I can't think

871
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: of off the top of my head, but yeah, it's

872
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure for absolutely has happened, and I'm sure that's

873
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: why now I am so good at it.

874
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: Say good at it?

875
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: Please help.

876
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you announced that you were going to do this,

877
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure you also probably got some like feedback and

878
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: then maybe also some like helpful advice or tips and

879
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 4: tricks yourself. Can you think of anyone's advice to you

880
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: embarking on this journey that really stands out?

881
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: I think I got a lot more, Like you're crazy.

882
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: One of the big thing has just been like my

883
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: nutrition and trying to dial that in to make sure

884
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting in enough calories and monitoring that component. I

885
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: think it's been like where people have really reached out.

886
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: I think they people in general like know that I

887
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: understand the running component, even though this is like completely

888
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: new to me. I've never done anything like this, so

889
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: it's like, how do you even prepare for it? But

890
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is like I've been relying

891
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: on my team for my nutrition has been like the

892
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: big one and that they've reached out and I've been

893
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: really trying to listen and do a good job with that.

894
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 4: We mentioned twenty four different superhero muffins in the Rise

895
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: and Run cookbook.

896
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite?

897
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: The dark chocolate banana are probably my favorite.

898
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 2: One of two superhero muffins I've ever made?

899
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: Oh nice, Okay, jog is the original super muff super wow?

900
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the original muffin. Yeah? And then this one from

901
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: resin Run. That's a good one.

902
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you can't can't go wrong.

903
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 4: So we're talking about the importance of nutrition, it feels

904
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 4: like a really great time for me to maybe call

905
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 4: upon Stevie from Inside Tracker. You guys had work together

906
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 4: over the last you know, handful of months as well

907
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 4: as previous to that, and in working together you definitely

908
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: learned a lot Stevie, as I said, a registered dietitian,

909
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: and so shedding some light on what it is that you've.

910
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: Been doing and your little.

911
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 4: Journey here, Stevie, talk to us about what you've learned

912
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: working with Slaine.

913
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Speaker 1: She is a superhero herself.

914
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 5: After looking at some of her blood work after Boston

915
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 5: and Chicago back to back, but honestly getting more real,

916
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 5: a little bit more scientific that you can tell in

917
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: her blood work since we've been working together, specifically starting

918
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 5: right after she got back from the Olympics, how much

919
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: her and her team have really worked to dial in

920
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 5: her nutrition and her recovery. Obviously we know Shelaine Elise.

921
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 5: They have these amazing cookbooks as resources for all runners

922
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 5: and active individuals, even anyone just looking to eat a

923
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 5: little bit healthier, so they know how to eat, they

924
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: know how to fuel, but especially when you're taking on

925
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 5: a big challenge, right for some people that might be

926
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 5: go on couch to ten k, or for Slaine, it's

927
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 5: doing all of these marathon that when yes, you can

928
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 5: eat healthy, you can eat your vegetables.

929
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Speaker 1: And whole grains.

930
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 5: But by using blood work, blood biomarkers who inside tracker,

931
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 5: we've really been able to help guide her to take

932
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 5: that to the next level. Take a closer look and

933
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 5: see how she can continue to fine tune with all

934
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Speaker 5: of this, you know, not just physical stress, but also

935
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 5: the mental and emotional stress of all the travel and

936
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Speaker 5: momming and everything she has on her plate, nutrition and

937
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 5: kind of monitoring are we fueling our bodies not just

938
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Speaker 5: for all these amazing marathons, but also all of the

939
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: other responsibilities and things that we love to make sure

940
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 5: that we're staying healthy doing that. And she's done an awesome,

941
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 5: awesome job through her blood work. I was like, I

942
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 5: had been waiting for the results after all of them,

943
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Speaker 5: and when I saw them after Boston and Chicago, I was.

944
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Speaker 1: Like, oh, my gosh, yeah, so can we share like

945
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Like So, for example, we did

946
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: a baseline test in August after the Olympics. It showed

947
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: that I was kind of stressed after the Olympics, rightfully

948
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: so watching my athletes compete. And then we did a

949
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: test right after Berlin and London, and again some of

950
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: the typical like markers of cortisol was spiked the as alt, ASD.

951
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 5: And alt which are enzymes that also indicate muscle breakdown,

952
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 5: muscle damage along with creatine kinas and as well as

953
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: your inflammation. Those all went up, which would be a

954
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 5: normal response. Those will elevate right after a marathon. They

955
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 5: should start to drop back drop down within seven days

956
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: of completing a marathon.

957
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: So those elevated, yes, But then I did the doubleheader

958
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: of the Chicago Boston back to back, which you think

959
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: would be obviously kind of traumatic to the body. But

960
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: I think I'd done a good job of like adjusting

961
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: after we saw some of the biomarkers kind of spike up.

962
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: I actually had better markers after the Chicago Boston just

963
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: because I was a little bit more on top of

964
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Speaker 1: stuff and took the feedback and my levels had dropped,

965
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: and so in terms of some of those like ir

966
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: irrore irritations to the body essentially, which was like crazy

967
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: to see.

968
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't you take an ice bath after Chicago. Yes,

969
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: everyone goes to buy multiple, multiple bats and get.

970
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: An ice there's this torture there. They're terrible, but I've

971
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: seen results, So I was like, if there's one time

972
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: to do it now, it would be a good time.

973
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah it was. It was pretty remarkable to

974
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 5: see those drops. And then we did one more kind

975
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 5: of a few like a couple of weeks, like nine

976
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 5: days after you did your virtual Tokyo, and some of

977
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 5: those marklers markers already went back down into her optimized zone,

978
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: which was pretty incredible and nice to see. Like, Okay,

979
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 5: yes she has all the life stress with you know,

980
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: rise and Run launching everything else. She's handling coaching again.

981
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 5: But everything she's done has really set herself up to

982
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 5: come into this, you know, grand finale of Project Eclipse.

983
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: Ready to go, so ready to go.

984
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: No excuses here now, I mean one more.

985
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 4: Question for you before I let you go. STV is

986
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 4: for those that are interesting. I mean, it's so easy

987
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 4: right to just be like I'm going to get a

988
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: blood test on Tuesday, but then what happens after that,

989
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: Like making that appointment is literally the easiest part because

990
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: so many people don't follow up to understand what these

991
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: results mean for them.

992
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: So why is that important?

993
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 4: Why is it important to maybe talk with a registered

994
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 4: dietitian or maybe more in depth with the physician about

995
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: what we're seeing as a part of getting blood work.

996
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great point and great question. So yes,

997
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 5: of course information is helpful. It's good to have those markers,

998
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 5: whether it's your first blood test or your fifth blood test.

999
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 5: But it's just like anything, they could just sit there

1000
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 5: and then if you don't take any actions to improve them,

1001
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: they're never going to get better. With inside Tracker, we

1002
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 5: will give you an action plan with recommendations, very easy,

1003
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: digestible things that you can start to do, whether it's

1004
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: through nutrition.

1005
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: Lifestyle rest.

1006
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 5: If you choose to take supplements, we give very scientific

1007
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 5: and guided supplement advice. But if it's something that's still

1008
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 5: confusing to you, or you're unsure of how to put

1009
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: those actions into place in a way that will benefit you,

1010
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 5: working with someone to help you break it down, make

1011
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 5: it a little bit easier and kind of fit your preferences,

1012
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 5: your lifestyle. Make those small actions that are of course

1013
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: goals that are attainable and achievable, so then you can

1014
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 5: start to feel better, have more energy, and you know,

1015
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 5: as Shelaane has said, you know she wants to run forever.

1016
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 5: I find that testing with inside Tracker is a really

1017
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 5: really good way to kind of get that longevity in sport,

1018
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 5: so you're not just worrying about performance right now, but

1019
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 5: also keeping an eye on your health long.

1020
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: Term as well.

1021
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for shutting you're playing on that. Yeah,

1022
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. I do want to go back

1023
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: to the note that you said before about it's important

1024
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: to have multiple goals.

1025
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 2: Right.

1026
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: I'm going to talk really close to this microphone now

1027
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 4: while this siren goes by.

1028
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: So that is very New York, right, sounds fine? I

1029
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: love New York. I.

1030
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 4: You mentioned the importance of having three goals, right, like

1031
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: having multiple things that you can aim for going into

1032
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 4: any race. And it was so funny to me that

1033
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 4: you said the number three, because I'll never forget that.

1034
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 4: My old boss, her name is lis Ploster. She's not

1035
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: the other in chief at Woman's Health. She always told

1036
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 4: me when it comes to running. For her, she also

1037
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: had three goals, and it was the goal that, like

1038
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: you like put out there publicly, the goal that like

1039
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 4: maybe you tell your friends and the goal you tell

1040
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: no one, right, Like the goal that just sits like

1041
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 4: right in the middle of your chest and like your

1042
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 4: anxious zone that's like all of your scary, big potential. Yeah,

1043
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 4: do you want to talk a little bit about where

1044
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: your goals are at going into New York?

1045
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: Well, the like which one.

1046
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm like waiting for you to give

1047
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: us something.

1048
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: Deal, Like what everyone knows is that I want to

1049
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: finish tomorrow for sure, finish project clips. But the one

1050
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm keeping closer to my chest, that

1051
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: would be like we've all had this, hopefully where you

1052
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: get out there and you're like, I'm having a day,

1053
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: I feel great, and you're kind of in this state

1054
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: of flow. You're like you click off the mouse, You're like, ooh,

1055
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: like that's nice. That didn't feel that hard, you know,

1056
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: and it just like comes natural and you're not forcing it.

1057
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: I would love to have that kind of a day tomorrow,

1058
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: have it click feel good. You know, it's not going

1059
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: to feel good the entire way, but just in that

1060
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: state of flow where you can enjoy running, where it's

1061
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: not a struggle and you have to really you know,

1062
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: grit down and so that I can run fast, but

1063
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: yet I can enjoy what New York City Marathon has

1064
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: to offer. My ultimate goal for myself is to bend,

1065
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: is to like enjoy these marathons, and so I would

1066
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: love if they coincided with just entering in that state

1067
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: of flow where things come nice and natural and easy

1068
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: and I get to enjoy it.

1069
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: You and I have the same goal. That's so awesome. Wow,

1070
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: never never thought.

1071
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: I mean, now, as we mentioned before, you said that

1072
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: you really try not to worry about what all the

1073
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 4: other people think as you're going about, you know, your life.

1074
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: Many of us follow you on Instagram. One of the

1075
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: four hundred thousand people that follow you on Instagram, when

1076
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: they come to your page, they see a woman that

1077
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 4: has now retired, but a professional runner and a mother

1078
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 4: doing a lot of really cool fun things over in Oregon.

1079
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: When you look in the mirror, what is it that

1080
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 4: you see looking back at you?

1081
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't even know who am I. I don't know.

1082
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I have what I like would hope that

1083
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Speaker 1: I think about myself. I don't know. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: I just hope that like I as close to being

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00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: authentically me is possible in general. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a fairly confident person, and I

1087
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: don't know that, Yeah, that I feel good about myself

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Speaker 1: and proud of what I do. I try to, yeah,

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Speaker 1: do things that I'm like, you know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we should at times, like you can look to other

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Speaker 1: people for inspiration, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: like hopefully we all like find inspiration in what we do.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully, like you know, when I look at myself

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00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: like and be like, yeah, that was that was good.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a good job.

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Speaker 2: You're doing a good job.

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Speaker 1: O things.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna take this opportunity right now. We

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Speaker 2: have thumbs up in the Bachelin. He's doing great.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take this opportunity right now to open

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00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: up for about like ten to fifteen minutes to audience questions.

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Speaker 2: We do have a microphone that they will bring you.

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00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: But what will happen is they will bring you the microphone,

1104
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: you will ask it, I.

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Speaker 2: Will reiterate it, and then we will move forward.

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Speaker 4: So this is your big moment right now, really to

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Speaker 4: get outside of your comfort zone apcially and it's done

1108
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 4: many times, and maybe ask her a question. So feel

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Speaker 4: free to raise your hand. I'll go with Audrey front right.

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Speaker 6: Hi, both of you. First of all, thank you so

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00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 6: much for this today. This has been so citing and great.

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Speaker 6: My name's Audrey. I'm from Boston. I know that you

1113
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 6: still to run tomorrow, but I was wondering what's been

1114
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Speaker 6: your favorite marathon throughout this project and why.

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Speaker 3: Audrey wants to know what Slane's favorite marathon has been

1116
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Speaker 3: from Project Eclipse.

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Speaker 1: The one thus far, I think tomorrow is probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be my favorite, but just projecting that, but thus far,

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Speaker 1: it's actually one that surprised me because I was basically

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Speaker 1: the race director of it. It was the virtual Tokyo

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Speaker 1: in Portland. I had very low expectations just because there

1122
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Speaker 1: was gonna be it's not a real race a lot.

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Speaker 1: There was no you know, typical enthusiasm of crowds and

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Speaker 1: other runners. It was basically just myself and my family

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Speaker 1: and my team of people supporting me out on this

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Speaker 1: island called Savvi Island outside of the city of Portland,

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Speaker 1: where there's pumpkin patches and farms and cows and it's

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Speaker 1: it's very beautiful and I've trained on it it, you know,

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Speaker 1: for years now, and I just was like really tired

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Speaker 1: going into it, thinking, oh, I just don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of energy and it won't be that fun just

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Speaker 1: because it's not a real race with other people. But

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Speaker 1: it was actually my favorite. I had so much fun.

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Speaker 1: It was you know, Nike was great. They set up

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Speaker 1: the course for me. I got to pick out where

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Speaker 1: I wanted to run it, how I wanted to run it,

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Speaker 1: made my own bid, that said Jack's mom. I got

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Speaker 1: my own playlist of music. I even had one of

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Speaker 1: my athletes hop in for a good chunk towards the end,

1140
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Speaker 1: Courtney Ferris, who's the Olympic silver medalist, you know, no

1141
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: big deal, And yeah, we just and Jack was there

1142
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Speaker 1: and it was just a blast, Like we had so

1143
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: much fun putting it together and just dictating, you know,

1144
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Speaker 1: whenever I wanted to start was when we started. It

1145
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: was very chill and relaxing. And I didn't I didn't

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Speaker 1: think I was going to enjoy it as much as

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Speaker 1: as I did.

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Speaker 4: Two things to double click on from that response. The

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Speaker 4: first thing is like referencing Courtney as being Olympic silver medallist,

1150
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: So it's like there's two Olympic silver medalists just out

1151
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: for a run, and of course that's unsanctioned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't get.

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00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: Anything locked off. So there's cars going by.

1154
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Speaker 4: Does anyone realize what's happening as they drive by you?

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Speaker 1: Well, we had Yeah, I have the cutest Nike team.

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Speaker 1: You know. One of one of the guys had like

1157
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: one of those you know, reflector vests, and he would

1158
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: hop out of his car and he'd act like he

1159
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: knew what he was doing, like directing traffic, and so

1160
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Speaker 1: that was really cute. We even had like like tent

1161
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: porta potties. Like it wasn't a real porta potty. It

1162
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: was like I don't, I don't even know, like a bucket,

1163
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: but it had like a tent over it, and like

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Speaker 1: we had even that we had a fire pit. I

1165
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: mean it was It was very cool.

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Speaker 4: And you mentioned a DIY playlist. Oh yeah, can we

1167
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Speaker 4: talk about the playlist?

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kate, I think contributed so to Colleen. It

1169
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: was like a conglomerate of you know, everyone's taste of music.

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Speaker 1: Even my dad had a few songs in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think my favorite one is American Woman by Lenny Kravitz.

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Speaker 1: That was my favorite on there.

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00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: So well, goes to update my marathon playlist before tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, next question, hands up? Yes right here.

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Speaker 7: Hi, I'm Fabriana. I'm from Missouri or I've lived in

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Speaker 7: New York for about eight years now. I love your

1178
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Speaker 7: post race champagne and fries ritual. I was wondering if

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Speaker 7: you have a favorite pre race dinner the night before

1180
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 7: and or like pre race ritual that's not nutrition related.

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Speaker 4: Fabriana wants to know about your pre race dinner or

1182
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 4: tradition situations.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in general for marathons, you stick with like

1184
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: tried and true. Unfortunately you don't not want to be

1185
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: experimenting very much. So like I've been eating very boring

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00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: these last few days just because I'm trying to just

1187
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Speaker 1: stick with safe foods, and it is rice, chicken and

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Speaker 1: sweet potatoes I go to ritual. I am very much

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Speaker 1: like an organized person. So the night before I my

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Speaker 1: bag is already packed. I've literally got the kit ready

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Speaker 1: to go. I don't want to have to think. I

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Speaker 1: want to go on automatic pilot the next morning and

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Speaker 1: not be scrambling. So my pre race ritual is like

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Speaker 1: early to bed, maybe a nice bat if I need it,

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Speaker 1: and just being like very organized all even like right out,

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Speaker 1: like at what time I should take a sip of coffee,

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Speaker 1: Like It'll be that detailed if I need it to be.

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Speaker 1: But I'll work back from like gun time all the

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Speaker 1: way from when I wake up and I list out

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Speaker 1: everything I'm going to need to do and what time

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01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: buses all that, so that, yeah, I'm not like stressed

1202
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Speaker 1: before I get to the start line. I don't want

1203
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 1: to like run a race before I run my race.

1204
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like my my thing to get

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Speaker 1: centered and organized.

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Speaker 4: And when you're traveling, are you staying in hotels? Are

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01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 4: you staying places where you'd be able to make your

1208
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Speaker 4: own food?

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Speaker 1: No, we have just been having to like do a

1210
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: lot of research and scramble to just try to find

1211
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: the right foods. But I have been packing a lot

1212
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Speaker 1: of Superhero muffins and the race date oatmeal that transports

1213
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: really well. The dinner situation, obviously they need a little

1214
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: more fresh. Not going to be taking that all over

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: the world with me, But yeah, a lot of like

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01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: our breakfast stuff is what I've been snacking on and

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01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: taking with me because it's really easy to like transfer

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Speaker 1: and port.

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Speaker 4: Yep, another audience question, I see one over here on

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Speaker 4: the left.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 8: I'm Jen I'm from North to Boston as well, grew

1223
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Speaker 8: up in Hamilton, love it, just up the street from Marblehead.

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Speaker 8: But my question for you is can you just run

1225
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Speaker 8: us through what the logistics were like in terms of

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Speaker 8: thing from Chicago to Boston, because I feel like you

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Speaker 8: must have really had to hustle, and I've kind of

1228
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 8: always imagined what that plane, that flight must have been

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Speaker 8: like for all the other athletes that were doing Chicago Boston.

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Speaker 8: Can you just walk us through what those forty eight

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Speaker 8: hours were like for you?

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Speaker 2: Jen wants to know.

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Speaker 4: Jen, Yeah, Jen wants to know what it was like

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Speaker 4: getting quickly from Chicago to Boston.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the quicker I finished in Chicago is like easier

1236
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: and you know, pad time to get everything manipulated. But yeah,

1237
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: we picked out a pretty tight schedule to make sure

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01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: I got into Boston so that I had like a

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01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: little time to decompress, get you know, get some food,

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Speaker 1: and get some you know, like a light massage with

1241
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Speaker 1: my pt who's been traveling. So that allowed me to

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to be getting in at like eleven

1243
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: PM and then having to get up at like four am.

1244
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Speaker 1: It was a really tight turnaround. So I think the

1245
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Speaker 1: thing is we as soon as I finished, I think

1246
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Speaker 1: we took Yeah, we took like a cart, like a

1247
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, what is it called golf cart?

1248
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: Took a golf cart right from the finish line to

1249
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: the hotel, ran in, rinsed off real quick, didn't even

1250
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Speaker 1: wash my hair, rinsed off. A car was waiting on

1251
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: the backside the hotel because all the streets were like

1252
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: shut down, so to try to get to where we

1253
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: need to go to get to the airport, that was

1254
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: like strategically placed the van and then we all piled

1255
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Speaker 1: in everyone that was with me. In fact, my friend

1256
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: who was gonna be running with me in Boss and

1257
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: he works for Nike and was an old teammate of mine.

1258
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: He was there. So we got everyone on the van,

1259
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: loaded up Nike and some of my support team already

1260
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: had like food, we had smoothies in there. Just chugging

1261
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: and trying to get like refueled and rehydrated as quick

1262
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: as possible. So yeah, the van ride was just consumption

1263
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: of food and beverages as much as possible. Got to

1264
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: the airport, and I think we actually had some like

1265
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: a luxurious amount of time. It wasn't like super stressful,

1266
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: just because everything was so organized and detailed, and ate

1267
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: some more food in the airport, got on the plane,

1268
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Speaker 1: took a nap, got off, went straight to the hotel

1269
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Speaker 1: as soon as we got in, more food, more drinks,

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01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: and I had a massage and some work done with

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01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: my pt Colleen, ice bath and then to bed and

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Speaker 1: then was maybe like seven hours later, maybe six hours later,

1273
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: back up again to do it all over. So, yeah,

1274
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: it was smooth. It could have, you know, could have

1275
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: easily have been really stressful, but I think because we

1276
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: planned everything out so well, it was it wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 4: So the answer to your question is Shlaine flew commercial.

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01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 4: She didn't have a private job. Yeah, to go to Boston.

1279
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: I'll take another audience question.

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01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 9: Hi, I'm Sarah. I'm from California, and my question. You've

1281
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 9: talked about your nutrition, your rest, your recovery to get

1282
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 9: you through the last forty one days. What's kept you

1283
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 9: in the mental game from day one all the way

1284
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 9: through tomorrow. If you've had mental hurdles, mental struggles, you know,

1285
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 9: is it visualization, is it recognition of your you know past?

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01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: What is it that keeps you in the mental game.

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01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 4: Sarah is a hurdler who won a spot to come

1288
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 4: here and hang out with you today, but she wants

1289
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 4: to know about what keeps you in the game mentally.

1290
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 4: Here right now, after forty one days and twenty ten hours.

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: For me right now is like I'm having fun doing

1292
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, so like there's not an element of fun.

1293
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: Like I like to describe running now is like I'm

1294
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna go play running. It shouldn't it shouldn't feel like

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Speaker 1: you like you have to do it. I know it

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Speaker 1: sounds weird because it's like it's an individual thing, but

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Speaker 1: it should feel like you're playing to a degree, there

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Speaker 1: should be an element of fun in running, and so

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Speaker 1: like I try to assess, like, well, what seems fun

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Speaker 1: for my running today and on different days, like certain

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Speaker 1: things seem more fun than others. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: this To me, this challenge seem fun. I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: how much I was gonna have, like how much joy

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Speaker 1: it was gonna bring me. I was like, ah, that

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Speaker 1: that could be really cool. And but yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: like to try to phrase it in my head like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play running today. So you know, for me,

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Speaker 1: getting new challenges is what keeps me in the game.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I think having variety, doing doing things on

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Speaker 1: the roads. But you know, my next thing that I

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Speaker 1: think I want to do is doing some more stuff

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Speaker 1: on the trails, Like, I live in a beautiful part

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Speaker 1: of the country in Oregon, and there's incredible access to trails,

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Speaker 1: and so just doing more more girlfriend type trips and

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Speaker 1: involving trails, to me, that seems fun and that's what

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Speaker 1: keeps me intrigued in the In the game.

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Speaker 4: We've the last couple of questions have focused on mental

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Speaker 4: health for someone who's like just so in their head,

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Speaker 4: whether maybe it's like maybe it's before you know, a

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Speaker 4: regular run, or maybe it's before a marathon and they're

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Speaker 4: psyching themselves out, they're freaking out. What is it that

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Speaker 4: you say to yourself when maybe that kind of creeps

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Speaker 4: into your ecosystem.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I try to look at as like I don't have

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Speaker 1: to do this, Like I get to do this, Like

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Speaker 1: it's just all about like rephrasing it, like I don't

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Speaker 1: have to go run tomorrow, but I get to like

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Speaker 1: that's a privilege, Like I stand on the start line

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Speaker 1: and there should be a deep sense of gratitude and

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Speaker 1: like this is a privilege to be able to do this,

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Speaker 1: Like not everyone can do this, Like and especially coming

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Speaker 1: from a time where I thought like I wouldn't really

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Speaker 1: be able to run. It's like even more so, like

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Speaker 1: the gratitude is tremendous. So if you're like too much

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Speaker 1: inside your head, like you got to be thinking about like, wow,

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Speaker 1: this is a privilege. I bet you. There's so many

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Speaker 1: people that you could list out that would wish they

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Speaker 1: were me right now. So like that should just give

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Speaker 1: you a good sense of like gratitude and excitement for

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Speaker 1: what you're about to do.

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Speaker 4: Hands raised in the audience for who would like to

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Speaker 4: be Shalaine for a day? Yeah, Okay, that's what I

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Speaker 4: had a hunch. The way that I end the show

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Speaker 4: every time is asking my guests about how they would

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Speaker 4: perhaps offer themselves a piece of advice looking back on

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Speaker 4: a hurdle moment in their journey. For you, you talked

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Speaker 4: about the difficulty that came hand in hand with the

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Speaker 4: beginning of the pandemic, the surgeries, the emotional toll it.

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Speaker 2: Took on you.

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Speaker 4: What piece of advice would you Slaine right now? November sixth,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. I had to think about the date

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Speaker 4: for a second. Give to Slaine at that time during

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Speaker 4: that hurdle moment, looking back on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just not take anything for granted and really like

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Speaker 1: be in the moment. Like a lot of people have

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Speaker 1: been asking, like, what are you going to do next?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I'm living in the moment.

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Speaker 1: Definitely just appreciating what you're doing at this moment. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I think we're so going oriented past what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, let's give it up for Slaine. This was

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Speaker 3: absolutely amazing. Thanks everyone, really appreciate you coming here to

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Speaker 3: join us today. A huge thank you to Inside Tracker

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Speaker 3: for hosting us. I couldn't be more grateful. I had

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Speaker 3: to put.

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Speaker 4: Like take off my fangirl moment to like have this

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Speaker 4: here with you today, but I'm gonna put it back

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Speaker 4: on for tomorrow because I feel like it's gonna help

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Speaker 4: me on my way. But thanks to everyone for coming,

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Speaker 4: and thanks to Shlaine for all of your wisdom.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Emily, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.