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So it was a somewhat 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.160 sleepy tournament at Southern Hills for the first three and 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.200 a half days. Roy McElroy caught fire on Thursday, then 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.320 fell back. Tiger Woods made an incredible effort to sneak 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.400 under the cut line on Friday, but by Saturday evening 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.200 he had withdrawn from the tournament because if body simply 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.840 didn't hold up. And on Sunday the top of the 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.839 leader board was occupied by names like Mito Pereira, will 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.720 Zalatoris and Cameron Young and Matt Fitzpatrick. It seemed like 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.160 the stars of the game had pulled a no show. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.440 But then the leaders faltered and Justin Thomas took advantage. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.800 He closed with a sixty seven and ultimately beat Zalatoris 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:47.680 in a playoff. It's Thomas's second major and second PGA Championship. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.480 To cover all of that and more, I have three 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.280 shortish interviews for you. The first is with Bendan Quinn, 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.080 a senior writer at The Athletic who was on site 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.400 at Southern Hills this week. Next up is the Friday 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.280 Zone Andy Johnson to talk about the course. And finally 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.239 you'll hear from Stephen Brittain, a golf course superintendent, about 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.680 the issue of sand. You may have heard that the 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.320 pros were not big fans of the large, grained, somewhat 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.960 heavily sand in Southern Hills bunkers, so I thought we'd 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.840 get an experts perspective on that. All right, let's do it. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.919 Here are takeaways from the twenty twenty two PGA Championship. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.680 All right, I am here with Brendan Quinn. He is 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.120 a senior writer at The Athletic. He covers college hoops 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.120 as well as golf, so those are two excellent beats. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.200 But we are here to talk about golf. You can 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.320 you can also talk about college hoops if you'd like, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:51.480 I'm sure, but you have been. You have been at 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.840 the PGA Championship this week on site covering the tournament, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.960 and so for you when you're thinking about Big ten 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.200 takeaways this week, what comes to mind? 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:07.960 First, Well, it was so interesting because everyone here, they 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.400 kind of the conversation that was just ongoing basically for 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.400 the last like four days, was like, Hey, is anything 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.000 kind of gonna happen? Like it just had this whole 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:25.320 flat vibe for basically after Rory got through fifteen on Thursday. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.600 From then that point onward, this thing just I didn't 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.400 think it had a lot of juice. It was just 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.920 kind of waiting for something to happen. And then you know, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.760 Mito Perrero just comes out of nowhere, and everyone's kind 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.920 of like, is this actually gonna go down this way? 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:44.120 Where he basically if he had shot even parr, it 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.640 would it's been fine today, and it would have kind 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:51.039 of been a lifeless ending to a tournament that I 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:55.080 thought kind of overall was a little flat. And then instead, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.919 you know, ninety minutes to go in the tournament itself, 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.560 kind of doors start opening and things start happening, and 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.760 now I'm running around on the back nine and it's mate, wait, 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.640 maybe there's this is gonna get really interesting really quick. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:15.839 And that's kind of how it went down, obviously, with 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:17.960 with JT making that move. You know when he when 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.480 he buried that that long birdie put on eleven, the 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.000 day really changed. And it was so early. I don't 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.960 think anyone really realized in the moment what what that 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.320 putt meant. But you know, he had shanked the shot 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.560 what two holes earlier, and yeah, he came back with 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.680 a with a beautiful five iron on ten that which 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.479 was the same clubby shanked, but he missed that short 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.440 BIRDI putt, and he was at that point still like 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:49.120 kind of trying to just get going. But then you know, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.920 he dropped that whatever it was, sixty foot right off 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:56.480 the front of eleven and off and running. He was 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.600 four under on his last eight holes of the day. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.160 To you know, I think a lot of people will 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.520 be able to say that Praira lost his tournament, and 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.560 he did, but you can also say JT went and 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.119 won the tournament. Both things I think can be true. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.280 Yeah, I mean, he shot sixty seven on the day. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:18.520 That's what you need to do in order to win 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.160 a tournament, but typically you need to do more than 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.800 that to come from seven shots back, which is what 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.920 he did. So there is that doubleness to it where, yeah, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.800 he certainly did well enough on the last day, but 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.359 a few things needed to happen. There needed to be 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.800 a bunch of guys who shot over par rounds, which 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.200 is what happened to basically every guy who was ahead 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.080 of him in order for him to have that opportunity. 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.320 But to his credit, he seized it. So all that 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.600 happened kind of you're describing this tournament that there was there. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.040 There was a sort of lethargic feel to it for 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.320 a while. The weather was kind of weird and slow. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.320 The greens were a bit slow because the wind was high. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.440 They didn't want to get out of control. You know, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:06.320 everything about the tournament just didn't quite have that fire. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.160 And then all of a sudden, in the last couple 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.120 of hours of the tournament, it just came alive. And 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.920 so I W I guess the big question is it 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.560 a good tournament? Now? Do we remember this as a 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:18.160 good tournament? 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.400 Man, that's a good question. 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.280 Like if there's a basketball game that has an amazing 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.280 ending to it right, but it's really boring and horrible 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:29.239 up until that point. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:30.560 And I've been to a number of those. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.760 Yeah, yeah, I don't. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:35.960 I mean, I think it was a good tournament at 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:41.120 a at a good to great course. I will you 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.800 ask ask five years from now, you know, I feel 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.560 like j T will probably have a couple more majors 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.000 at that point, you know nothing. I'm not sayingthing crazy like, 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.640 you know, but I could five years from now he 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.600 probably has two more something like that, you know. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.400 I mean, that would be amazing for him. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.800 Yeah, and I think this will be remembered as you know, 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.560 the one that you know, winning the second one so hard, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.200 so we'll have that piece to it. And then it 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.600 was also a really interesting look in at Southern Hills 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.440 I think, which you guys have covered, you know as 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.840 well as anyone what what this course presented. It's gonna 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:16.840 take a lot for me to say this was a 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.880 great tournament, though, But I feel as I feel as 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.680 bad for the guy that lost as I do for 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.200 anything else in the tournament. That's like an empty, hollow 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:30.080 feeling that comes with I guess being a compassionate human being. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.920 Yeah, well, I mean talk about the talk about the 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.800 misery of Meadow a little bit. Something that Andy Johnson 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.400 uh noticed on that last hole is that Medow was 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.240 really quick between his shots. You know, he looked like 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:49.480 everything was sped up. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.240 So here's something that I think it's gonna probably make 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.640 its way into my story. But there was just hitting 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:01.640 on that, like justin Thomas So on the so I 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.840 think it was, yeah, eighteen T. It might not have 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.880 been eighteen ten. Now I'm second guessing myself, of course, 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.560 but it was one of the one of the closing holes. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.240 He's on the T box, he's addressing the ball. Back 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.120 behind me. One of the women working the concession stands 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:21.600 yelled last call one minute, and like, like JT was 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.880 pretty far away, but like he definitely heard like a 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.800 hair of it right, Like it was not close to him, 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.680 but he heard it, and he backed away from his 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.679 shot and he went all the way back through his 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.360 preshot routine again. He went up and he stripped it. It 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:41.280 was eighteen sorry, so it was definitely a teen and 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.240 we know how that how that ends. He hit a 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.079 great approach, you know, he could have made a birdie 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.920 in one outright, but made a great part in a 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:54.360 clutch spot. And then in the playoff on seventeen, as 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:58.760 Xalatorus is standing over the ball, a siren went off 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.880 in the distance and it was loud. It was legit loud, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.079 and there's in my mind, I didn't get chance to 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.880 asking about it. I wasn't in his press conference, but I 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.840 think there's zero chance he did not hear that siren 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.880 and and he stayed put and he pulled the trigger 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.719 and it was a poor T shot and that ended 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:23.040 up being a birdie for j T, a par for 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.760 xala Taurus. And you know, I'm not saying that, I'm 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.280 not saying that siren costs him, you know, a major, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.920 But I think it was also a guy in in 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.880 this position for one of the first times in his 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.920 career versus a guy in JT who's done this more 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.920 years and has you know, more reps and maybe just 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.280 a little I don't know, competitive and emotional maturity in 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.079 that moment that like he backed off zal Taurus didn't. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.560 And then you see a guy like Meido, who you know, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.679 he went up, rushed through his whole routine, took that 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:02.040 swing and and lost the tournament. So, you know, three 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.480 very different moments that I think kind of showed a 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.240 guy who was ready to win the second major of 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:09.760 his career, and that was Justin Thomas. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.680 So what did you see from Justin Thomas between when 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.000 he finished on eighteen and when he started to play off? 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.480 You mentioned that you kind of followed him. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.680 Yeah, I saw a guy who just wanted a chance 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.640 to like get back in the arena right Like he 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:33.280 just wanting desperately to keep playing, because I think he 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.640 felt like he was ready to go make the shots 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.720 to win this thing. Like there was no there was 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.199 no flinching in him. There was It wasn't a look 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:46.040 of like concern or dread. It was just like drive, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.920 Like get me back on this freaking golf course right 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.360 now so I can go win this thing. It was 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.280 kind of that energy. When zal Torres came back onto 0:11:55.320 --> 0:12:00.439 the practice green as they were waiting for the finish, 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.240 I am ninety nine percent sure I don't think JT 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.960 looked at him at all. When he walked onto the 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.240 practice green and they both went through their routines. They 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.360 both went to you know, their bags were stacked or 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.720 standing right next to each other. After they went through 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:21.360 their their putting or their practice putts and JT did 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.360 not look at him once and then got on the 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.280 back of a golf cart and drove off like he 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.440 was very much just kind of tunneled off, and I 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:34.360 think like that tournament ended, his round ended, but for him, 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.480 the tournament had not ended yet, right, Like he was 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.200 just still kind of totally in that competitive mode that 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.280 you know. I mean, that's that was some alpha stuff there, 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.120 just the whole way that he carried himself. And then 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.400 you know, I don't know if the broadcast picked up 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.880 on it, but when he went back through the tunnel 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:56.120 and got up toward eighteen Green to take a cart 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.839 ride over to thirteen t for the first hole of 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.160 the playoff, they drove by the fans and I mean 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.920 it was like a parade, Like he's sitting on the 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.720 back and people were just just going wild, and you know, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.360 he kind of flashed the thumbs up and it was 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:13.000 like you could tell that the like this was sports, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.440 you know, like it was kind of one of those 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:20.560 moments that it was very much a like just high 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.880 energy and to be able to keep your composure. Now, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.240 obviously he pumped his right a little bit, but you 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.560 could feel a guy who was very much present in 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:32.000 the moment. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:37.040 That is that approach is so indicative of experience because 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.120 it's so easy in those situations to speed up and 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.000 do things too fast without even realizing it. And so 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.320 it takes a little bit of experience to know, if 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:49.920 I just take this at what I think is a 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.960 normal pace, I'm gonna go too fast. So I've got 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.679 to take a breath, I've got to slow down. And 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.719 it seemed like that's what Justin Thomas was doing in 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:03.040 that situation. And it's something that we've seen Tiger Woods 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:07.439 do in many different scenarios in his career when he's 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.960 trying to win majors. It's something that we saw Phil 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:14.360 Mickelson do last year throughout the entire round. As Brendan 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.000 Poorath chronicled for our site, he was so slow that 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.520 it actually annoyed Brooks Koepka. And it seemed like today 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.720 Justin Thomas was taking his time. He was very serious, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.960 very focused and intentional about what he was doing. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:28.240 Yeah. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.960 Yeah, And you know, if you talk to Bones about it, 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.560 like Bones likes to say that he has every shot 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.080 in the bag, you know, JT has every shot out 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.480 there left right, low, high. He can do every the 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.760 soft hands around the green. He has every shot you 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.320 could want, and he just has to trust it and 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.360 not be so hard on himself. And if they did 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:55.000 like today was very much That back nine specifically, was 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.360 I think kind of the culmination of like those types 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.920 of thoughts where you can hit any shot in the book, man, 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.520 like just kind of go out there and just just 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.200 do your best and it'll it'll happen for you, right, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:13.160 and yeah, I mean talk about left, right, low high. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.440 I mean he hit all of those on on on 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.520 the back nine, and some of the other shots that 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:24.080 he just kind of casually executed were just just ridiculous. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.359 Those back to back bunker shots he hit were insane. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.120 And that that the the bunker shot he hit on 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:37.160 uh on six. After he hit that, just the shank 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.520 dead right, then put his second one off a tree. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.560 And now it's time where it's okay, other guys, that's 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.320 the end of their tournament, right, They're gonna hit another 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.040 poor shot they're gonna take They're gonna make a number 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.720 that you can't make when you're trying to win a 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.160 major in the fourth round. You can't take a double 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.240 in that spot. It's over and it would have been 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.320 over if he had taken a double, and instead he 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.440 pulled pitching wedge from one hundred yards out in a 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:11.160 bunker and hit this little cutty pitching wedge to eighteen feet. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.520 He went up and he makes the putt right. That's 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.960 that's how you do it, and not a lot of 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.720 people can. So you know, he's got he's got the 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:26.280 stuff two certainly be you know, the right at the 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.360 top of the world rankings and and be a multi 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.200 time winner. And I'm kind of curious to see what 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:37.600 this does for him in terms of some juice momentum. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.120 You get freed up after me, he waited a long time. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.480 This is not low key. We all talk about Spieth 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.840 and Rory and them waiting to win their next major. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.280 Like he was getting into that conversation, like he was 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.560 kind of there at that at this point, and now 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.160 now it's off, and uh, you know, I think he's 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.360 got the personality I think to be a real like 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.560 fan favorite type of guy. You know, the way that 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.800 he plays the Ryder Cup. He's by far the most 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.920 fiery guy on the team. You know, he gets interacted 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.160 with fans. He's fist pump and he's slamming beers. He's 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:15.560 he's in it in that type of stuff, and you know, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.639 maybe he could he can kind of carve his his 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:23.480 place as a I think maybe a bigger kind of personality. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.440 I agree, Yeah, the sport needs another kind of superstar 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.119 to emerge. Yeah, someone who is going to kind of 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.600 stay consistent at the top level of the game for sure. Now, 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.679 one of the issues that I think JT's persona is 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.760 is a whole different matter in this. You know, one 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.240 of the issues with him so far as far as 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.960 his the way he comes across in public is concerned, 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.399 is that sometimes he does seem a little bit needy 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.920 or a little bit thirsty, as as Andy and Brendan 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.480 would put it on the Shotguns start. And maybe winning 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.040 a second major will give him some more of that 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.520 quiet confidence that tends to read a little bit better 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.440 in public than this kind of eagerness that he's conveyed 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.119 so far. But that's kind of a separate issue. What's 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:11.400 really interesting about JT's playing career is that he has 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.080 taken so much more of like a traditional route to success. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.160 You know, it took him a while to break out, 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:22.600 really because Speith was obviously his same, you know, I 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.560 don't know if they're exactly the same age, but they're 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.720 around that, and Speith broke out way earlier and had 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.359 success way earlier. It took Justin Thomas a while to 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.560 get established on the PGA Tour, then to win his 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.000 first major, and then it took him a while five years. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.359 In fact, it was twenty seventeen when he won the 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.240 PGA at Quail Hollow, five years to win his second major. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.919 And what we're seeing from him is this kind of 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.040 more traditional path to a great career that we've seen 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.840 stars in the past take when careers were long, and 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.000 they tended to peak in when players were in their thirds. 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.000 What we've seen recently is players seeming to kind of 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.560 peak in their twenties. Rory has done this, Speeth has 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.800 done this, and then kind of drop off after that. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.159 It seems like the path that JT is on is 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.560 a little bit more traditional, and maybe it'll turn out 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.360 to be more sustainable, that he'll win another major when 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.880 he's thirty three, and he'll win another one when he's 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.280 thirty five, and he'll have more of that kind of 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.040 like Phil Mickelson type career. I guess that's the hope 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.199 is that, you know, you know how Phil Micholson won 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.200 more on the PGA two or I think than j 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:32.480 T has to this. 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.040 Point, like eighteen wins, doesn't he something like that. 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:36.840 He's got a lot of wins. Yeah, so he's got 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:38.600 a lot of weird amount of wins and he could 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.680 add it. But his game is going to age well. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.680 And just remember like Phil Mickelson didn't win his majors 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:50.000 until he was mature, and so we could possibly see 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.679 a really exciting next phase of JT's career. But the 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.000 thing is we always get caught in this, right we 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.120 see a player win a major and we say he's 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.320 definitely gonna win three Moore, and so we don't know 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.359 if that's what happened. In this case. It just seems 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:07.280 like is different. It just seems like, you know, it's 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:08.280 a little more old school. 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.199 There's the thing that really sticks out to me is 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.280 he seems like there's like so little variance in his game, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:20.399 you know, like like there is the full package, a 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.639 like his short game is there is everything else is there. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.120 It doesn't seem like he didn't win this major cause 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.720 he's on a heater right now, like he just went 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.639 out and won the Major. Like that's it, you know, 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:39.040 when we go back and like think of h DJ 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.560 winning the Masters in the fall a while ago, Like 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:44.840 he won that in the window of being on just 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.000 a ridiculous heater if you go back and look at 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.359 like the FedEx playoffs on right, I mean, he was 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.320 just killing it. He was the best player in the 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.880 world for a six month window and then the other guys. 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.440 And Scheffler was the same right where Shefflerfer. 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:02.000 Was, John Rahm was. John Rahm was on a ridiculous year. Yes, 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.480 last year when he wonted Tory Pines. Like I don't 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:09.640 JT's been playing well and all that, but like he's 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.800 not just crushing it coming into this thing, Like he 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.080 was not a trendy pick on other than unless you 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:20.240 read the Athletic, But uh, I do feel like his game, 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.159 like he just won this tournament because he just shot, 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.600 He just made shots and he won and he found 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.920 a way to win it. And like you could make 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.400 a case, I mean, this is just totally narrative nonsense, 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:32.880 but like you can make a case that that's kind 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.400 of like more impressive way to win a major than 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.800 when you're just kind of you're just feeling it and 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.959 you everything though timing works out in your favor. 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.040 Well, he won this major from the bad side of 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.520 the draw. He got a bad weather draw on Thursday 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.840 and Friday. He played during the windy sessions on those days, 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:57.360 played brilliantly, and then had a bad round on Saturday 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:01.760 around that had everybody, I mean most everybody and myself included, 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.199 saying JT has kind of blown this one. When is 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.080 he going to finally close one of these out? And 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:14.120 then he manages to just squeak out a sixty seven today. 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.480 I don't quite know how he did that because for 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.000 a lot of the round it didn't seem like he 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.439 was playing that well. It seemed like there were a 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.320 lot of missed opportunities. And so, yeah, as you're saying, 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:28.679 this is a major win where he wasn't exactly lights 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:32.399 out and he didn't get every good break going his way, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.399 and that is impressive. You know, we've heard Tiger Woods 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:38.919 talk about this before, being able to win when you 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:42.000