1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Revere redly dalks. Look at this now, tip to tip. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: Hey. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: It's the seventh of November and welcome to the Morning 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: Combat Podcast. Hi everyone, I am one half of your 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 3: hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I join you 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: from the capital of the status anitos right here in Washington, DC, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: joined by my editorial life mate, my friend in yours 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: he is the King of Connecticut. It's Brian Campbell. Hello BC. 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: How are you doing today? 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: Hi, Luke, I'm pretty fired up. I don't know if 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: you heard, but today is Monday and this week is 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: UFC two eighty one Fight Week, right MSG baby MK 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: on the ground in Jersey. Cite Hana. Sorry about Sorry 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: about that. Got a little too excited, But I'm really excited, Luke. 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: You know, well, you sound like it sound like you've 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: had like five xanax before the show. This will be great, 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 3: all right? Everyone? You know the drill. If you're watching 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: on YouTube, two thumbs up pit subscribe If this is 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: a new venture for you. By the way, it's BC 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: indicated we're gonna be I'm gonna be in Jersey starting 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: tomorrow morning. We have a lot of fun stuff planned 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: for you. Some stuff we can announce, some stuff we cannot. 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: The fun stuff that we cannot announce. I think you're 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: gonna really like it. I think you're gonna really like it. 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: So be on the lookout for some cool stuff coming 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: tomorrow and then every day thereafter from Jersey City. Also, 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: if you listen to this on your favorite podcast platform, 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: do leave us a nice review. We appreciate that. When 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: you do BC, everyone knows the order. Today real quickly, 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna get to some UFC stuff. We have some controversy, 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: some serious controversy as a matter of fact, and that 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: Derek minerfight. We'll talk about that, plus domain and comin event, 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: Dmitri Bivol out there looking like an absolute stud. And 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: then of course David Morrell Junior. Now there is some controversy, 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: will not controversy. There's some sad news report about that. 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: But in just in terms of the way he looked, 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: he looked great. So full state of stuff to get 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: to or are you gonna say I'm sorry to cut off. 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Luke, that you know, we covered 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: the balls out of that Jake Paul Anderson Silva fight, 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: and you know, maybe it wasn't everybody's cup of tea, 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: but you can expect that same coverage for all things 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: two eight one this week. In fact, when you are 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: an award winning podcast, the pressure mounts on your shoulders 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: to out cover your competition, and Luke, every single event 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: this week, we will be there to react. So many 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: special guests, so many bonuses coming your way. I want 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: the people to realize, get your shit done this week early, 52 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: and then get ready to ride with MK all friggin 53 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: week long, because this is the big time and this 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: is a major Luke. This is like the US opens 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: or some shit here for for a UFC. 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I saw it was a bit 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: of like you know, Dad's night out energy in terms 121 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: of how the crowd was. But I saw them here 122 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: before they canceled the tour with with Killer Mike and 123 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: LP run the Jewels. Dude, rage was good. They were good. Lie, 124 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: they're pretty good. 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: Did they evolve as a live outfit, Luke in terms 126 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: of like jamming and right and just you. 127 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: Know, No, it sounded like they were recording an album 128 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: like so it wasn't quite the live thing in that sense, 129 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: But how clean their sound was. Their sound was impeccable. 130 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: It was impeccable, all right there, all right, like the 131 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: a lot like the history of morning combat. I'm sorry, peccable. 132 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: Sound there we go, Let's do it. 133 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: Let's bank exactly right. All right, Let's kick things off 134 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: here with some UFC discussion topic number one. Boy, I 135 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: gotta say, how about Friday's guest, Dean Thomas calling this 136 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: one perfectly even against me in BC's snickering objections. We 137 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 3: couldn't believe he was saying it, But turns out he 138 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: was right. Mendeemos polishes off Marina Hadriguez in the third 139 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 3: of their main event at UFC Vegas sixty four BC. 140 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: Dean Thomas was absolutely right about her power. Is that 141 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: your biggest takeaway from this fight? 142 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? That she's absolutely for real in this division, and 143 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: I didn't think she was looking. I gotta give her 144 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: a lot of credit. And obviously you look at Aman 145 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: de Limos's stretch. Now it's seven wins in eight fights, 146 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: only that loss, that submission lost to Jessica and Drodge. 147 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: But you know, we had sort of picked apart the resume, 148 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, had she fought enough elite fighters, had those 149 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: fights been clean and clear rather than you know, split 150 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: her majority decision, but at the end of the day, 151 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: it didn't matter. She got her opportunity winning to get 152 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: to this point, and she puts a hole through somebody 153 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: in Marina Hadriguez, who, let's not forget just three four 154 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: days ago we were debating whether she should have even 155 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: taken this fight and whether she had already potentially locked 156 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: up a title shot because of how good that four 157 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: fight win streak was. But nothing's guaranteed in the sport. 158 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we praised Marina for 159 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: staying busy and giving herself the best opportunity to stamp 160 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: a title shot. Well, she got stamped in the end. 161 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: So let's talk about Amanda Limos. She came out there 162 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: with big power, but she was also very poisoned. That 163 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: was a throwaway first round in which both of them 164 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: felt each other out. But I think you gotta give 165 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: Limos credit for taking that fight to the ground there 166 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: in round two, beginning to establish herself as a physical force, 167 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: and then staying true to her game plan. And when 168 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: the moment was there, on the feet she hurt Rodriguez. 169 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: She swooped in and look, this is why this is 170 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: why we play the game. This is why we fight 171 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: the fights. At the end of the day, you can't 172 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: win him on paper. Limos won it in the ring. 173 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: She didn't need any judges, and we got to wake 174 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: up and realized that we've got a hungry, aggressive contender 175 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: right now in this deep and great division. 176 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really echo that again. I want to give 177 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: credit to Dean right up front, as we already have, 178 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: but just to reiterate it one more time. It's not 179 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: that I didn't believe she had big power. I just 180 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: wasn't sure how exactly decisive it would be as a factor. 181 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: Turns out, very decisive, is the answer. But the truth 182 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: is it's more than just that her big power definitely 183 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: played a role, and the first round was close, she 184 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: could maybe give it to Hadriguez. In fact, I think 185 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: she probably did. I didn't see the judge of scorecards, 186 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: but I think more people than not thought she had 187 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: won it, although it was close. Second round very much 188 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: a Lamos round, getting control from the takedown from the clinch, 189 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: riding out the back, threatening with a submission that was 190 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: certainly very serious for at least a moment in time, 191 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: and then the third round stopping her. But what you 192 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: noticed about it was She had hit her with that 193 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: same shot previously, where Hadriguez was charging in, Lamos would 194 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: slide back and then pop her with the countershot. She 195 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: had landed that before and this time she landed it 196 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: to just much better effect. See in the fight is 197 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: that at distance? You know, they were kind of pot 198 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: shotting each other with kicks, but they Rodriguez's game could 199 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: not get going from distance, so she had to shorten 200 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: it a little bit, and that's when all the problems started. 201 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: Because obviously she has big power Lamosh does. She was 202 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: obviously able to intercept her coming in, and then in 203 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: the clenchion on the ground she was better as well. 204 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: The reality is, basically this isn't one hundred percent true, 205 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 3: but it's largely true that Lamosh was better everywhere. So 206 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: the power was a decisive factor. The anticipation as your 207 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 3: opponent closes distance was a factor. Obviously, her patience to 208 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: a degree was a factor. Good back control, good submissions. 209 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: Did have that one air in the first round when 210 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: she ended up on bottom from a failed throw, But 211 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: short of that, man, this was just the Amanda Lamo's 212 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: show from beginning to end. So to your point, I 213 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: give credit to Dean Thomas for that. I give credit 214 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: to Lamosh for showing I think, I won't say new wrinkles, 215 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: but the full breadth of her game, all the different 216 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: things that she can do. And I agree it's a 217 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: tough loss for Hadriguez, it really sets her back, but 218 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: for we have a new and outstanding contender here. Now. 219 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: You see. We got to talk about the stoppage though, 220 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: because that was a real big topic of controversy online. Now, 221 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: having reviewed it in real time, it's one thing reviewing 222 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: it's another having reviewed it after the fact. How do 223 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: you feel about it? 224 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: I was fine with it. I was fine with it then, 225 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm fine with it now. I get the fact that 226 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: once the stoppage happened, you saw Marina come to life 227 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: and complain in that moment. But I think it was 228 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: a DC who was doing the highlights of the or 229 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: was voicing over the replaces. Luke was DC on this broadcast. 230 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: So remember or did I just make that up? 231 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing how little I can remember Luke 232 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: at times. But here's the deal. I think whoever was 233 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: voicing over the highlights was pointing it out. I think 234 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: she was out on her feet from that first big 235 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: shot that backed her up. I thought she got worn 236 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: down for much of that second round on the ground. 237 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: It kind of got a little bit of the will 238 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: taken out of her. I watched the replay. I'm completely 239 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: fine with it. She was getting lit up with clean shit. 240 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: She was attempting to defend herself but wasn't firing back 241 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: and was really, you know, on her way to getting 242 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: knocked out. It seemed knocked out clean potentially. I don't 243 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: know where the outrage in this specific case is. 244 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: So there will be two complaints that you could make 245 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: about it, and in general, I don't really have a 246 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: problem with it. I think Jason Herzog is an outstanding referee, 247 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: and whether you think this is his best call or 248 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: not his best call, it's still not a bad call. 249 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: Just to be very clear about that. It's not a 250 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: bad call at all. The question is was it a 251 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 3: little early? So the two ways you could assess that 252 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: is one, if this were a prelim card fight, you 253 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: could be like, oh, I understand it more because the 254 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: stakes aren't as high. It's not a five rounder, the 255 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: competitors typically are not as senior, and so you get 256 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: a little bit earlier on the interventions than if it's 257 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: a main event and there's a lot more at stake, 258 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: with a lot more senior competitors. That's the one claim 259 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: you could make. The other claim is and this one's 260 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 3: a little hard to prove with any kind of data, 261 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: but there does seem to be something to it. B See, 262 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: what do you make of the idea or not this 263 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: fight serves as an example of it. But what do 264 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: you make of the idea that we do see women's 265 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 3: fights stopped earlier when there's some brutality involved that if 266 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,359 Speaker 3: these were men and men had reacted very similarly similarly, 267 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: excuse me that we would have gotten the exact same 268 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: result from the referee. Do you buy that or do 269 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: you think it's a bunch of nonsense. 270 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: No, I think it's a bunch of nonsense. There were times, 271 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: and even in the last couple of years, I tried 272 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: to throw that sort of Devil's advocate counter theory out there, 273 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: that are we still not, you know, subconsciously fully adjusted 274 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: to the idea of women fighting on this level. That 275 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: sounds crazy even voice, but you know, don't forget that 276 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: when the UFC, did you know through through the launcher 277 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: the stardom of Ronda Rousey activate this in the beginning, 278 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: there were a few, you know, credible names, media members, 279 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people who are like, you know what, 280 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: I just don't know if I like watching that. I 281 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: think we're so far past that, and I think, you know, 282 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: I was cagsited for Yo Wanna versus way Lee Part one. 283 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: And even though that fight, let's say, didn't have sequences 284 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: like this where somebody looked that close to be ready 285 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: to go, that was a fight where in the fifth 286 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: round kind of watching through my fingers, going this is 287 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: as brutal as it gets it and it kept going. Now, 288 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: that's a title fight on a pay per view. This 289 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: is also a main event with key title implications. But look, 290 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: when you're getting when you're getting lit up in boxing 291 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: or MMA, when you're getting lit up with big shots 292 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: and you're not firing back and your posture is you know, 293 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: partially defensive but also partially you could be out on 294 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: your feet. I don't see where the where the argument 295 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: against that in this case is because Rodriguez looked out 296 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: on her feet, or if she wasn't, she looked like 297 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: she wasn't competently defending herself despite her hands being up. 298 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: So no, I don't in this case, I don't buy that. 299 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, look, we did get to the 300 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: point of this. You know, suffrage is a real thing. 301 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: Can we get past any any gender bias here? Look, 302 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a thing anymore. It's it's not here. 303 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: But here's what I would say. Just pointing out that 304 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: it didn't happen in other kinds of crazy fights involving 305 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: women wouldn't disprove it. It wouldn't The argument it would 306 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: not be that it happens all the time, every time 307 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: in very direct and identical ways. The argument would be, 308 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: is there a trend such as the larger data can 309 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: show that these fights are being a little bit stopped early. 310 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: So again, I don't know that there's a ton of 311 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: good evidence collected in this particular case. It's a little 312 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: harder to make that argument. Well, if there's a trend, 313 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: last thing on this last thing, last thing, I would 314 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: be curious to see if someone could assemble data, because again, 315 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: individual circumstances don't prove or disprove anything. It's the wider 316 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: set of information. 317 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're saying, hey, Richard Man, get me some 318 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: stats that's what you're saying. 319 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: Stats, bro, data, that's what you need. 320 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: Get me some data. Well, you know it would be 321 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: too we I mean, I used to edit Richard Man 322 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: stuff at ESPN. Look, he's you know, he's a veteran 323 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: in this game. But it would be too easy to 324 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: if he needed a nickname to be like dick Guy 325 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: or Dick Boy. I mean, he needs a real nickname, right, 326 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: dick Man, dick Man. That's a little bit too I'm 327 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: gonna work on that. Okay, I'm gonna work on that. 328 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: But look, I think if there's any trend lately in 329 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: both sports, it is stopping things quicker when somebody seems 330 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: concuss on their feet. Would you agree with that? And 331 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that's a negative trend because it can 332 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: lead It can certainly lead to situations where you're gonna 333 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: argue too soon. But you know, we've got in the 334 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: Showtime boxing main event, which we're gonna get to shortly, 335 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: somebody who was induced into a you know, medical coma 336 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: because of the accumulated damage. So in the moments where 337 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: someone's dominating and looks like they're on their way and 338 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: the key word, the key, the key thing that that 339 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: the referees are looking for in my eyes, is it's 340 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: not just competent defense, it's it's are they attempting to 341 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: throw back? You know, I think we're only going historically 342 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: closer to a direction where you're gonna see more stoppages 343 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: like that, like this, and you know, it's always going 344 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: to be the purest in us who loves the big 345 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: comeback in a fight where someone's taking intense damage. But 346 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: this just isn't one of those in my eyes. But 347 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear a counter argument, Luca as to 348 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: why you know this should have been this should have 349 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: kept going. I didn't see it. 350 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, again, this is not you can you can you 351 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: can you can any any debate or excuse me, any stoppage 352 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: is in some ways up for debate. I mean, the 353 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: you know, short of someone just going completely out, and 354 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: so this is not a bad stoppage. It's just a 355 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: question of it was a little bit early given the circumstances. 356 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: I think you're right, though, are we seeing a trend 357 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: where people get rocked on the feet? And then what 358 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: you're looking for in this particular case, it seems to 359 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: me from herz Ag is when he's looking down at Hadriguez. 360 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: You know, I remember, for example, when Ken Shamrock fought Chemo, 361 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: he hit him with a knee from the clinch. Chemo 362 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: fell and then just turned his back and looked away, 363 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: and the referee I think later was asked about it 364 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: or something like that where they had said, yeah, like 365 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: once he showed his back, it was pretty clear he 366 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: didn't want anymore. He was he was literally avoiding the fight. 367 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: In this particular case, it wasn't exactly that, but it 368 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: looked like she had been hit with the shot and 369 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: was turning away and not really consciously reacting. Right. So 370 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: it's okay to get hit with punches, depending on how 371 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: you react to them. But if you're just kind of 372 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: absorbing and hands are out and there's not any kind 373 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 3: of more intelligent approach to mitigating the problem in front 374 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: of you, they're gonna intervene. So Jason Herzog is a 375 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: fantastic referee. Just want to make sure we went over 376 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: the details. Okay, B see last thing on this A, 377 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 3: who would you like to see Limosh fight next? And 378 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: B here's my question about Rodriguez. Excuse me, Hadriguez, I'm sorry, 379 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: was this something of a loss where it doesn't just 380 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: hurt her stock because she lost to someone else who 381 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: was really good. That that and the sets are back 382 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: in the divisional rankings. That's obvious. But what I mean 383 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: to say is, did this show that like, whatever long 384 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: term upside she's got, you've already seen it, Like this 385 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: is the final product. And if she can't get any better, 386 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: which it seems like she cannot, this is all that 387 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: there really is. 388 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, the onus is on her too to when 389 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: she does come back to to come back with a 390 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: big statement. Now it's easy to say, Okay, this is 391 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: a monumental loss because it looked like she was on 392 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 2: the footstep of a title shot, and I think that's fair. 393 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: But let's just look back two fights ago when when 394 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: Lamos was right to know what a five fight winning 395 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: streak at that point and got submitted by Androge and 396 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 2: look at her. She got another opportunity. She wont her 397 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, her next fight. But then she gets back 398 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: in this one and gets a huge stoppage in a 399 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: main event. Sometimes, you know, more often than not, it's 400 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: about timing in the big moment. Marina Rodriguez has had 401 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: two moments that seem to snuff out some real momentum 402 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: that she put together. One was the stoppage loss to 403 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: as Sparza that launched Carla to the direction of a 404 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: title opportunity, and now this one. But she's thirty five. 405 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: In fact, both fighters in the main and Comine on Saturday, 406 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: they're all thirty five. It just happened to work out 407 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: that way. The window is closing. The one question mark 408 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: we had about Marina coming in was that lack of 409 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: sort of top end power or finishing ability or submission threat. 410 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: She's a very tough fighter. She's hard to look great against. 411 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: If you're not complete in you or not of that ilk, 412 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: she's gonna expose you. This does take her down on 413 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: a notch and really puts the onus on her to 414 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: try to make one more big run and try to 415 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: do the kind of thing she hasn't to separate herself 416 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: from this level of competition. I think you look back 417 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: on this, and you know, because of what we talked about, 418 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: she went backward in the rankings. She said herself in 419 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: the media day, you know, I don't really understand this matchmaking. 420 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: Was there part of her that just subconsciously or naturally 421 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: wasn't as well prepared or didn't respect Lamosh up to 422 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: this level. That could be part of it there. You know, 423 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: fighters are humans at the end of the day, so 424 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: I don't write her off completely. But is it is 425 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: night drawing near? Yes, I think for this fighter, who's 426 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: got to look in the mirror and say, is there 427 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: another gear I can find? If not, I may have 428 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: just missed my window with this defeat. It may have 429 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: worked out that way, but let's give her another chance 430 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: to get back in this. 431 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: For the rankings in Limos, I like, I agree with 432 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 3: your answer on Hadriguez. Again, we don't have the updated 433 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: rankings so as they were before the fight tooks place. 434 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: Hadriguez was sitting at three in the rankings, you had 435 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 3: Limos sitting at seven. I don't know if they'll if 436 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: Lamosh will take the number three spot, but if she does, 437 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: you sort of wonder who the other fights could be. 438 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: You could maybe do an Androge rematch, but I don't 439 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: know if there's a lot of demand for that, given 440 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: how kind of it all ended very quickly for well, 441 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: for Androge getting the standing head norm triangle. What about 442 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: the idea of Lamos versus Rose Do you like that idea? 443 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: It's a fresh match Rose. 444 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: I certainly love that idea, but what you really have 445 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: to ask yourself is if you're going to make that 446 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: match up in Lamos just fall And I know she's opportunistic, 447 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: she's thirty five as well, she's trying to maximize. So 448 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: she said in her post fight interview, please Dana, I'll 449 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: be the backup for the MSG title shot. And I 450 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: like that Chandler esque spirit, but I think if you 451 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: were doing Rose versus Lamosh, then again it's like, Okay, 452 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: who's gonna fight for the title next? Luke, I think 453 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: Rose is just too big of a celebrity, two time 454 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: former champion, although it's largely her fault, she just lost 455 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: that title belt. The UFC can make a trilogy with 456 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: her against either winner of Saturday's fight. So to me, Luke, 457 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: knowing business, knowing history, especially if it's Wayley who wins, 458 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: you're going right there into the trilogy, and Limosh under 459 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: that setting would need one more victory to truly put 460 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: herself in that number one contender spot. So what's my 461 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: answer to that? If Rose is on the UFC's plans 462 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 2: for next, how about Yan Shannon, who just bounced back 463 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: nicely against Mackenzie Dern in a close fight. Is that 464 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: an acceptable will match up for you for Limosh moving forward? 465 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: It would be, But that's a if I'm Dern, that's 466 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: a tough fight. That's a tough flight. 467 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: Sean versus Lamos, I'm talking about, not Durn Durn lost 468 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: to Jan That's what I'm Yeah. 469 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: Well, even then, it would be a question of like 470 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: where Lemosh ends up, because if they put her, they 471 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: could One possibility is they could bump on Droge up 472 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: because Onroge has a relatively recent win over her, and 473 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: they could put excuse me, they could put Lemosh at four. 474 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: No, Luke, I'm going to interrupt you. Androge has a 475 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: fight at one twenty five. Has switch paths. There were 476 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: two roads emerged in the. 477 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: Woods and fourth she's gone back there. 478 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: She took the less travel back to one twenty five. Okay, 479 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: so she's there for now. She's out of this conversation, 480 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: I understand, but you never know. 481 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: She could just jump right back in. But if you 482 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: take her out of the equation, it does make the 483 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: matchmaking a little bit easier. Frankly, either of those fights 484 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: I think you could get away with and make the 485 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: Channon one, to your point, would be a little bit 486 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: more interesting and better since they both are coming off 487 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 3: of big wins. But yeah, she she is now in 488 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: that space where whatever she gets next, that could be 489 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: her fight for a title, no doubt about it, because 490 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: you're only going to be fighting either Rose, Jong Wiley, 491 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: Carla Androge if she comes back, Jon Chanan or durn 492 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: and darn would be the lowest ranked opponent she would 493 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: fight in that case, and that would be a pretty 494 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: great run. 495 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: You know. 496 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: You forgot to do though, you forgot to counter me 497 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: and say, hey, b C, great idea on Rose. But 498 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: if Carla goes out there and wins a decision, let's say, 499 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: against way Lee, you're supposed to tell me, BC, there's 500 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: no chance the UFC does Carla Rose three after that, 501 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: after that shitcake they both produced last time. 502 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: That's what I gotta tell you. I yeah, that's probably 503 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: not high on anyone's priority list at this point. So 504 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: fair point. All right, let's go to the co main event. BC. 505 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 3: How about old Neil Magni, Old fucking Neil Magni out 506 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 3: there still getting it done. By the way, we were 507 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: wrong on this one too, BC submitted Daniel Rodriguez in 508 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: the third round of their co main event. We see 509 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: let me just ask you this, and I want to 510 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: ask you in this context, how impressive was the victory, 511 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: because I think if you're a jaded pos it's very 512 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: easy to be like, yeah, it's a nice win, it's 513 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: a win over guy in the top fifteen, blah blah blah. 514 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: But I want to talk about the Neil Magni factor here, right, 515 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: we'll talk about him breaking that win streak about GSPN 516 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 3: just a second, or you can bring it up if 517 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: you want, we can get right into it. But the 518 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: point I want to make was there needs to be 519 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: a place in the conversations we have around fighters and 520 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: how good they are that and I've said it a 521 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: million times, but it really is worth reiterating here around 522 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: Magni that don't revolve around well are they in the 523 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame and as individual entrants, do they have 524 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: a title whatever. There's all kinds of ways to not 525 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: be as certainly as a prestigious as that to still 526 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: turn in very commendable efforts. And it seems to me 527 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: like one of the real things you get from Neil 528 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: Magni is is he the best guy at Walter Waite. No, 529 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: the evidence doesn't necessarily tell us that, but the evidence 530 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: does tell us he is consistently very very good. He 531 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 3: came off a terrible loss against Jeff kot Rochmanov and 532 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 3: had to deal with adversity in this contest and still 533 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 3: got it done. He's been doing that kind of thing 534 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: for a very long time against very good opposition. Surely 535 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: we have something nice to say about that, beyond good job. 536 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: Well, we got a lot of nice things to say. 537 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: But I think you're breaking glass in case of emergency here. 538 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: You're trying to nominate Neil Magne for the Hall of Fame. 539 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: I mean you said he's a very good fighter, and 540 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: he's been very good a long time. 541 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: Not in agree way of trying to nominate him for 542 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. In no way am I sittre right. 543 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know where you were going. I'm like haul 544 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: of very good. Yeah, very good fighter. I mean, look, 545 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: what do we say coming in Neil MAGNI exposes you 546 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: if you're not real, and nobody wants to call the 547 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: journeyman and Neil Magne's been at a very high level 548 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: for a long time, and I'm not calling him a 549 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: journeyman or a gatekeeper here, he's got the most wins 550 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: in Walteraway history. Thumbs up. He always has an ability 551 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: when we think we know which direction he's going to 552 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: not necessarily reinvent himself, but come through a h hallacious 553 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: camp and come in there and do exactly that. But 554 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: as great of a win as this is for Neil 555 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: and it was, hell yeah, it was. He took big 556 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: shots from d Rod. Is this more of an indictment 557 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: that maybe d Rod is not of the elite ILK? 558 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: So this result proved to us who Daniel Rodriguez is 559 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: more than necessarily proving us to who Neil Magne is. 560 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: This is who Neil Magni always is. Luke, we both 561 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: picked de Rod, we both had maybe higher hopes for that. 562 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Neil was the better 563 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: fighter in this fight, and he deserves, you know, like 564 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 2: he does anytime he puts together three and four fight 565 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: win streaks in between big step up losses, he deserves 566 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: another big opportunity off of this. But it kind of 567 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: was what it was in terms of its potential. If 568 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: De Rod wasn't gonna show us a complete game or 569 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: take one aspect of game and take it to the 570 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: next level. He was going to have the opportunity for 571 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: this to happen. Now, did I think you know Neil 572 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: was going to get a finish here? No, But you know, 573 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: once ste Rod started slipping punches and getting a body lock, 574 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 2: but then showing us he was unable to do anything 575 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: with that, unable to throw Magne against the cage and 576 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: land big strikes, unable to take him down, Suddenly the 577 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: openings were there for Neil Magni and let's take it. 578 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: Let's let's give him credit. He's very good. He's never 579 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: been great. He's very good. To me. This was more 580 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: of a referendum on exactly where de Rod is coming 581 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: off a fight where a lot of us thought he lost. Anyway, Luke, 582 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: and that's not a backhanded compliment that Neil. I'm not 583 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: trying to say that, you're trying to say that he were, 584 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: that he's getting minted now for his Hall of Fame suit, 585 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: because no one's trying to say that. But there's a 586 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: great win and a big spot in a Colemine event. 587 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: I'll give Neil Magne that credit. Looke across the board. 588 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 2: He was on point in this fight. 589 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: I agree with half of that. Definitely half of that, 590 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 3: I think the difference maker in the end. Here's where 591 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: I think we agree. I definitely agree that like on 592 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: the feet, this is the part where we were right. 593 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: On the feet, Rodriguez was better, right, he was lighting 594 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: up Neil Magni and Neil Magnie just didn't have a 595 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: great answer on the feet at all, and I think 596 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: that's what we thought was gonna basically be the entire 597 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: terms of the fight, and that's why Rodriguez would win. 598 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: So in that sense, I do agree that what Neil 599 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: showed was that yes, Rodriguez is very very good on 600 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: the feet, but the other parts of his game need 601 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 3: to come along a little bit further if he wants 602 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: to be able to beat opposition of this quality. So 603 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: I do think it was referendum is a strong word, 604 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: but certain any kind of loss always shows, you know, 605 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: potential weak points in any fighter. No fighter is perfect, 606 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: They're all going to have them. In this particular case, 607 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: it did put up a magnifying glass to some of 608 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 3: those things. But I do think you're being a little 609 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: bit unfair to Neil. And the reason why I say 610 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 3: that is because you're right, we're looking at just ultimate achievement. 611 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: He has done some, he's had some great wins, but 612 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: he's never been like consistently excellent. That kind of thing. 613 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: He doesn't have any He never held a title, never 614 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 3: fought for a title, never been a number one contender. 615 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: You know, there's been some limits to how well he's done. 616 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: But just I want to point out this. He's made 617 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: his UFC debut in twenty thirteen. Here he is now 618 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, and he is still beating guys 619 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: of this quality, and this late in his run in 620 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: the UFC. That is very difficult to do. To be 621 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: this consistently not raising what your ultimate level was, but 622 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: to make sure that you're putting in enough work that 623 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 3: you can stay at least level or above the vast 624 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: majority of the competition, not the ones inside the top 625 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 3: ten space necessarily, but certainly everyone else in that organization. 626 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: To do that consistently as long as he has that 627 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: is not easy. In fact, it's kind of I'm not 628 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: gonna say it's easier, But we would be wowed by 629 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: someone who had five years of a burst of inspiration 630 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: and then five years of disaster. We would still talk 631 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: about them more and I'm not saying that higher level 632 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: achievement shouldn't be rewarded as such, it should. Well, all 633 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm pointing out is to maintain a consistently very high 634 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: level throughout the years, despite getting older, despite the game 635 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: changing and everything else. To be to show a consistent 636 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: level of this kind of ability that is highly commendable. 637 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: It's not easy to do. It's very difficult, in fact, 638 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: and I just feel like being like, well, he still 639 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: doesn't have an A plus win, okay, but he's got 640 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: a lot of like B plus A minus wins. Oh, 641 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: he's got it worth something. 642 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean you, I mean, if you can really pick 643 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 2: through it, you can identify some of those wins as 644 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: guys were past their stretch. But he's got wins over 645 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: like Hendrix loll or Condent. I mean, there's there's a 646 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: strong handful of guys he's beaten. I love the call 647 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: out for Neil after by the way, to say, hey, look, 648 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns, like, I'll go to Brazil. I'll be you know, 649 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: I'll be that guy for you. Let's go do that. 650 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: That is the kind of win he needs, And you 651 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: could argue has lacked, but I don't even think he 652 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: got let's say, one sided on the feet like you 653 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: kind of mentioned, did did Rod lance some big strikes, 654 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: particularly in that second round? Yes, but you know Magne's 655 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: jab was on point and he bloodied Rodriguez' his nose 656 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: early and true. I mean, look, look, it's great. It 657 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: was a it was a great win. It really was 658 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: a win. And to get the finish on top of 659 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: that and to have that type of dominance on the 660 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: ground that he had. But what's my biggest takeaway. I 661 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: already knew Neil Magni could do this. I did expect 662 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: more from d Rod and look like like I mentioned, 663 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: to reiterate that, you know, he just didn't have anything 664 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: for us on the ground and you're gonna have to 665 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: be a dual threat to win at this level. And 666 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's still time for him. And 667 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: I love his striking, his demeanor, his cool factory. I 668 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: love everything about de Rod. He's a fantastic fighter. But 669 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: he showed us that he's not on Neil Magne's level here. 670 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: So now Neil gets to put his head above water 671 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: again and take on an elite potentially, and let's see 672 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: what we've got, Luke, He's been around a long time. 673 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, he hasn't gotten worse. He's you know, 674 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: he's been steady. He's getting better, and this is a 675 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: big opportunity. But uh, you know, I'm not getting the 676 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: yellow jacket framed for him yet. I don't even understand 677 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: what you're trying to say. 678 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: Anyways, I've never even suggested that the. 679 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: Whole I don't even get what you were saying though. 680 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: That's the thing. Maybe I'm just an ignorant. 681 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: Let me okay, fine, but then let me explain it. 682 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting he should be nominated for the Hall 683 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: of Fame. Rather, when we have conversations about how we 684 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: praise fighters for what they've done in the cage, we 685 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: do it either we only do it on the terms 686 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 3: of extraordinary achievement, which of course makes sense. The thing 687 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to point out to you is, to me, 688 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: there is still something highly commendable about consistency, highly commendable 689 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: all that consistency. To me, the Rodriguez win by itself 690 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: is good, it's nice, but it's in the larger totality 691 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: of the body of work and what that body of 692 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: work says about the kinds of things Neil does in 693 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: the training room and how he's able to consistently apply 694 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: it in the course of his competitions, not against the 695 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: upper end. And if we're only going to have conversations 696 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: about fighters who become champions, we're going to miss a 697 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 3: lot about what makes fighting great. Just the reality. If 698 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: you only ever talk about champions, if you only ever 699 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: talk about who's in the Hall of Fame, you are 700 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: missing a wide swath of very good fighters who will 701 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: teach you about the fight game, will teach you about 702 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: life lessons, will teach you about humility, will teach you 703 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: about achievement, and everything else in between, and also about 704 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: the ins and outs of MMA. I just want to 705 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: make sure our conversations aren't completely segregated around just Hall 706 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: of Fame guys, just championship level guys. There's another space 707 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: that deserves to be praised, and I think Neil Magni 708 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: leads the pack in terms of that space. 709 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure. In the larger end of that 710 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: space you're talking about, we have seen guys like Jim Miller, 711 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: Matt Brown get a lot of end of career love 712 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 2: for being at a level for a long time. You know, 713 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: Magnes's you can argue is even at a little bit 714 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: higher level than that, because he's beating rank guys and 715 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: now he's setting himself up for a big fight. So, Luke, 716 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: if it's not Gilbert Burnson got I love that call out, 717 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: What could me Neil Magne be looking for? Because this 718 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: is a coalmine event opportunity off a guy coming off 719 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: a big win, even if it was disputed. I mean 720 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: a level, there's a line in the sand. If you're 721 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: below that line, Neil Magne beats you, I want to 722 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: see if he can beat somebody above that, Luke. 723 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: So the names around him that might make sense would 724 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: be potentially I don't think Brady would take this fight 725 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: because they're boys. Sean Brady is friends with Neil Magne, 726 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 3: so I don't think you would take it. Then it 727 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: takes you to Vicente, Luke, that'd be a hell of 728 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: a fight. Rockmanov already fought him and beat him mass 729 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: butal probably won't take that fight. I don't suspect that'd 730 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: be a fight he wants. You could do the Kisa rematch. 731 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: I don't know how much interest there is around that. 732 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: You could do Michelle Paeda, any of those I think 733 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: you could do Luke, a Kisa or Paeda looks like 734 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: the obvious ones. Any of those interest you? 735 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, most of them, if not all of them. 736 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: But you know you could do wonder Boy. I guess normally. 737 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: The live comments that come in during art. Doesn't Wonder 738 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: Boy have a fight? 739 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: I forget who he's fighting? Coming up? I'll look that up. 740 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: We normally have comments coming in that we avoid on 741 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: the on the you know, the YouTube live chat, because 742 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: it's usually just barbarically grotesque. 743 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: Excuse me, Kevin Hollins wonder Boy. 744 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: But VT is in our chat saying, hey, forget about 745 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: MAGNI for a second. How about d Rod versus Sean Brady, 746 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: two big names, exciting guys coming off defeats. You like that, Luke, 747 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: You like VT's suggestion. I mean, can't believe Tyson gave 748 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: that girl VT? 749 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 3: Right? 750 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 751 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: You sure did? He gave her Virginia Tech. I don't know, 752 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: because it's like you're gonna give Sean, You're gonna give 753 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 3: de Rod, a wrestler who's a good grappler right away 754 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: that seems like he doesn't have time to really work 755 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: on his game. And conversely, if you're Sean. Yes, the 756 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: stand up could prove difficult given what we saw against Ballall, 757 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 3: but you know, just being the sort of low to 758 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: the ground wrestler grappler that he is, I don't know. 759 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: If you're gonna get a whole lot out of that contest, 760 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 3: you could do it. I wouldn't hate it, but I 761 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 3: don't know that's the best choice. 762 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 2: You know, that thing on the side of Frank Beemer's face, 763 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: Luke speaking of. 764 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: VT, Yeah, yeah, it was big. It was big. 765 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was big. That's all I got. That's all 766 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: I got for you. 767 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, any thoughts about Neil breaking GSP's record, Now, even 768 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: I got give credit to Neil. Even Neil in the 769 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: post fight sit down with the media, the scrum was like, listen, 770 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: I know my record's not GSP's the record. I know 771 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: my wins are not GSP's wins. I know I know that. 772 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: But to me, this is sort of going back to it. 773 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: It's like, dude, the guy broke a very difficult record 774 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 3: to break. They're not equivalent. He will be the first 775 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: to admit it, but just to be in that kind 776 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: of company, this is that consistency I'm talking about BC. 777 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: Even if you're beating lesser than competition than what GSP 778 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 3: was was tasked with to be able to do it 779 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 3: this consistently long. To break a record like that, even 780 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: if they don't mean equivalent things, still pretty goddamn commendable 781 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: for you. 782 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, at the highest level without being caught 783 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: or sent away. Look, he's been able to avoid the 784 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: kind of pitfalls at end careers early, which is, you know, 785 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: having things fall apart. Only when he loses, he tends 786 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: to come back with two, three, four consecutive wins. And 787 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: you stay at that pattern a long time. That means 788 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: that you are constantly grinding, evolving, getting better, not taking 789 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: you know, six months off because you went through a 790 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: divorce your career falls. I mean, like this guy's been 791 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: at it. I mean, Luke, it's like, you know, there's 792 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: grinders and other sports too. I mean, if you're a 793 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: baseball if you're at starting third basement and you hit 794 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: two eighty five with seventeen home runs and you know, 795 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: eighty two RBIs, but you do it for like twelve 796 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: straight seasons, they might not be putting you in Cooper's town, 797 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 2: but you're gonna make a lot of money and get 798 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: a lot of respects. So if the whole point of 799 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: your speech there is by the time we put some 800 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: damn respect on Neil Magne's name, then hell to the Yeah, Luke, 801 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: he's a he's a gentleman, he's a strong representation of 802 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 2: this sport in this division's history, and he's been here, 803 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: he's fought everybody and he's still going. So let's give 804 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: him that, and Luke again, I'll echo it. I hope 805 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: he gets Gilbert Burns, although I know Gilbert wants money fights. 806 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: I know he wants you know, Coleby and Jorge, he 807 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 2: wants them. He wants that. 808 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 3: Money does just as one more last reminder on Neil Magne, 809 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: and then we'll move along. The Haitian sensation himself twenty 810 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 3: seven and nine record. I mean, is anyone out here 811 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: really gonna say that this dude hasn't tried to fight 812 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 3: tough guys. All he's ever done is fight tough guys, 813 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 3: just the last ten of them. Rodriguez, Rochmanov, Max Griffin, 814 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: Jeff Neil, Michael Kissa, Robbie lol Er, Anthony Roco Martin, 815 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: the Leech, Santiago Ponza, Nibio, Carlos Kondit, RDA, Johnny Hendrix, 816 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: Lorenz Larkin, Hector Lombard, Kelvin Gastolm, Demi and Maya, the 817 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 3: stun Gun, and on and on and on it goes. 818 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: The dude never takes an easy night, never takes his 819 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: foot off the gas, always looks for the smoke broke 820 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 3: an interesting record, had the humility to recognize, Okay, there 821 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: are some differences there, and then asks for one of 822 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 3: the toughest guys in the division. What is there not 823 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 3: to like? I really don't know. 824 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: All right, maybe you should call out GSP for a 825 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 2: boxing match. Look, we'll do it on showtime pay per view. Okay, 826 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: we'll get well, get the Donald to be the referee, 827 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: all right, come. 828 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: On, he can bite them both. That'd be great. BC. 829 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: I want you to know, MMA fans, we've got an 830 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: unreal match going head to head this week. 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Meet me on the d 876 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: BC if you're into that. 877 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: If we're gonna do. Okay, so imagine I had to 878 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: tell you have you know you can only bet one 879 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 3: direction for all of them, So you're either gonna bet 880 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 3: all of them lose or all of them win. The 881 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 3: ckb get your losing bet all four and a parlay 882 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 3: lose or all four wins. So of course it'll remind you. 883 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 3: That'd be Carlos Alberg taking on Nikolai Nigu Moranu. That's one. 884 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 3: The second one, of course, would be Brad Riddell taking 885 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 3: on Hanatamakano. Then Dan Hooker's got a fight, and then 886 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: Izzy in the main event. 887 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 2: What do you think I bet they'll all be on 888 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: aerial show. I bet that, But I also bet Luke. 889 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 2: Can I bet a parlay that Carlos Oldberg will win 890 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: by stoppage and then win by stoppage after the fight. 891 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 2: If you know what I mean, Luca, I'll take on 892 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: that parlay hang loose Carlos. 893 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 3: Okay, please, all right, let's get back to UFC here 894 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 3: if we can. So this was one hell of a story. 895 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: Let's talk about it now. So I'm gonna try and 896 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: read this gentleman's name, and I'm sure Sor I'm going 897 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: to fuck this up, so please forgive me. But there 898 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 3: was a controversy and a pretty serious one in the 899 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 3: feature fight on the main card between shy Alan. Please 900 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: forgive me for mispronouncing this near Dan Biek against Derek Minner. 901 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 3: So about a few hours before the fight, shortly before 902 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 3: the fight, the betting lines had suspicious movement where Minner 903 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 3: became much more of an underdog, and I want just 904 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: gonna say Shyalon, because his last time was a littlefficult 905 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 3: to pronounce, became a much more pronounced favorite. Then the 906 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: fight starts and Derek Minner throws a left leg kick 907 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 3: or excuse me, a left leg to the body around kick, 908 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 3: and it clearly hurts him. Then he throws it again, 909 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: kind of collapses and then he gets stopped with elbows. 910 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 3: So the fight was flagged. A report came to SBC 911 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 3: from Mark Ramundi and David Perdum from ESPN, and this 912 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 3: is what it says. The betting on this fight is 913 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: being investigated by a US based betting integrity firm after 914 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 3: several sportsbook and multiple states reported suspicious wagering on the bout. 915 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: This is what they say. The odds on Hyalan defeating 916 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 3: underdog menner moved dramatically in the hours leading up to 917 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 3: the fight. Betters were convinced that not only would the 918 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: would Chylan win, but he would do so in the 919 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 3: first round. Money poured in on a favorite to win 920 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 3: by knockout in the first round and for the fight 921 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 3: to last fewer than two and a half rounds, prompting 922 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: some sports books to take the fight off the board, 923 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: according to an analysis conducted by US Integrity, a Las 924 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 3: Vegas based firm that works with sportsbooks and state gaming 925 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 3: regulators to monitor the betting market, a copy of which 926 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 3: was obtained by ESPN. Now, there's two theories, BC, I'll 927 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 3: pitch this to you, well actually three. One is that 928 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 3: this is all a coincidence. Two is that nothing nefarious 929 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 3: happened between the fighters, but somebody knew something and the 930 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 3: word got out and betting happened. Or three. And again, 931 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: I want to be clear, we don't have any direct 932 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 3: evidence of this. We are not suggesting this is true. 933 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: We're merely articulated possibilities that could explain what happened. You 934 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 3: can decide for yourself whether or not this is true. 935 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 3: But a third theory could be that actually these fighters 936 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 3: are always one of them or somehow were in on 937 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 3: it and a fight was thrown. Now again, I don't 938 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 3: want to speculate that is what happened to suggests that's 939 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 3: true without any evidence. But this is a bad situation. 940 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 3: How do you unpack this? 941 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a lot of you know, typical Twitter speculation. 942 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: People are like, isn't James Cross's coach? Doesn't he bet 943 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: on his podcast? 944 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so Dereck Minner trains with James Kross 945 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 3: for whatever. 946 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like hold the phone on that. Look, 947 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 2: I would largely say either much ado about nothing coincidental 948 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: or what you mentioned there about Okay, Well, news leaked 949 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 2: about the injury and he went through with the fight anyway, 950 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: and people had a hunch. But I gotta say, Luke Well, 951 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 2: I'm not here to go all full conspiracy on you. 952 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: I watched this fight after I found out about what happened. 953 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: Is it weird? Did all that? Derek Minner threw a 954 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: kick with his left leg, was visibly hurt by it, 955 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 2: landing to the high hip area of his opponent, and 956 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: then went right back to the well with that same 957 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: kick and then collapsed covered his face. Didn't attempt to 958 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 2: fight back, and you know, both his opponent and the 959 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: referee were kind of like, what are we doing? Should 960 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 2: we stay? 961 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 962 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's stop it. I gotta say that whole sequence. 963 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't light up you know me coming 964 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 2: on saying you know, Building seven or anything, but it 965 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: does make me go okay, yeah, let's investigate this. And 966 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 2: I know the UFC has made a statement about their 967 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 2: own you know, internal investigator that they used for this 968 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 2: type of situation. Look, look, this is exactly why Dana 969 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: White came out a few weeks ago and was like, 970 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 2: you know what, moving forward, let's ban all fighters from 971 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 2: better I mean, look, you know, you we grew up 972 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 2: in the eighties and nineties when this, like you weren't 973 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 2: even allowed on you know, sports broadcast to mention betting. Ye, 974 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: I mean yeah with Jimmy the Greek on CBS talking 975 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 2: NFL and kind of code word. But there's a reason 976 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 2: why this. I I was kind of waiting, you know, 977 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 2: we lived through donnahe I was kind of waiting for 978 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: something to happen with how aggressively in sports today or 979 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 2: all sports. I mean, we're putting on the UFC screen 980 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 2: updates on big betters were you know, thrown out Draftking 981 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,959 Speaker 2: parlay potentials with the odds. I don't have the answer here, 982 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 2: but I rewatched that sequence a couple of times from minner. 983 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 2: Something was off about that, right, something something smells weird. 984 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 3: I definitely they contacted his manager and then another source, 985 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 3: and they the word was that he went into that 986 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 3: fight pretty badly injured, which would not be in any 987 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 3: way surprising. I think that would make a lot of 988 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 3: sense that he you know, we see it all the time, right, 989 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 3: people go into fights, sometimes more injured than they should be, 990 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 3: but just injured, just the same fine that I can believe. 991 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: And I think the best I would say this the 992 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 3: least nefaria well, the least nefarious would be that it's 993 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 3: all coincidental. But of the two more nefarious ones, the 994 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 3: one that's not as bad was if word got out 995 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 3: and then people were betting on it. But you can 996 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 3: see why the UFCU were outluely right, why they got 997 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 3: out in front of this as quick as they did, 998 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 3: or maybe maybe a little bit delayed, but certainly before 999 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 3: this incident took place, about preventing fighters from you know, 1000 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 3: betting on anything related to UFC or themselves as a 1001 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,959 Speaker 3: matter of like sort of covering their ass, which again 1002 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 3: I understand. What I would say is this should be 1003 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 3: taken seriously. This should be investigated as thoroughly as possible. 1004 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 3: You know, this is why fighters going into fights injured 1005 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 3: now takes on a new wrinkle, because two things can happen, 1006 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 3: right if they're injured enough. One, someone can find out 1007 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 3: about it, and it can fuck up the betting, and 1008 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 3: now you are there's it's almost like insider trading in 1009 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 3: a way. Or the other one is that they actually 1010 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 3: do a really good job of concealing it. But people 1011 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 3: are betting on basically a fraud. I want to say 1012 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 3: that betting on a fucked up product that can't actually function. 1013 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 3: And either way, the fans aren't making a bet on 1014 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 3: something reasonable. They're not working with a reasonable amount of information, 1015 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 3: which would either too much transparency or not enough. So 1016 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen here. I tend 1017 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 3: to think this is going to happen. I won't say 1018 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 3: all the time, but perhaps more and more. It definitely 1019 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 3: looks sketchy, and I agree with you too, Like again, 1020 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. I don't have any evidence. 1021 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 3: I've not looked into this. I don't have anybody's text messages, 1022 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 3: I don't have emails, I don't have any phone conversations. 1023 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 3: But is it weird that he threw a kick and 1024 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 3: he clearly like he winced in pain quite visibly, and 1025 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 3: then threw another one right behind it. It's it's strange. 1026 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 3: It's the best I can say is that it's strange. 1027 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,479 Speaker 2: And it could be random. Yeah, it could be random 1028 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: and coincidental. But I think that is enough of a 1029 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 2: way for them to really go deep and investigate this 1030 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 2: like they should, because you know, it's it's not crazy. 1031 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 2: Dissimilar to the argument we had about TJ. Dillshaw. Now, 1032 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 2: it's different in the sense that what men are did 1033 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: with those consecutive kicks is weird. But is there a 1034 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 2: larger conversation related to the TJ. Dillashaw incident that we've 1035 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 2: you know, gone back and forth a few times on 1036 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 2: that there needs to because I saw a lot of 1037 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: people going, Okay, why are we throwing the blame at 1038 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 2: TJ for that situation with the injury when it was 1039 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: you know, when one second in it seemed like he 1040 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: wasn't fit to compete shouldn't there be more strenuous medical 1041 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: testing and commission efforts to really make sure these fighters 1042 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: aren't just fighting past certain health safeguards for the for 1043 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: the from the standpoint of they need the money or 1044 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: they're just that's how they are, that's how they're wired. 1045 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 2: No matter what is physically stopping them, They're going to 1046 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 2: go through with the potential of this much money changing 1047 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 2: hands and gambling being not just legalized, but again on 1048 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 2: the broadcast, they're telling you, they're giving you ideas of 1049 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 2: what parlays you can do. You know, under the under 1050 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 2: the DraftKings graphics on the podcast, I would like to 1051 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 2: see similar to the TJ situation and now this, if 1052 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: Minner knew that he was physically compromised, that heavily affects 1053 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 2: the way people are gonna bet it, heavily affects the 1054 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 2: importance of these fights and what the opponent is going 1055 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 2: to face. I mean, can it be done, Luke? Is 1056 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: there there is there a way commissions can test even 1057 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 2: deeper physically to make sure. I mean, I don't I 1058 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: don't know, Luke. I mean, you know, I'm sure that 1059 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,479 Speaker 2: you can hide injuries just the same way you can 1060 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: hide peds, it seems these days. But you're gonna have 1061 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 2: a major scandal that's gonna eventually make us ask key 1062 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: questions unless some of these safeguards that are potentially getting 1063 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 2: exposed here are all leveled in, leveled out, and ironed out, 1064 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 2: because we've never existed in this type of environment where 1065 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 2: where betting is just so really forcibly shut and pushed 1066 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 2: in your face. We just ran an ad. We just 1067 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 2: ran an ad for betting, right, I mean, it's in 1068 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 2: your face. They got to be on the ball. So 1069 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 2: I think banning the fighters and did that ban on 1070 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: the fighters go to the team members as well, Luke, 1071 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 2: because it is clear that they've got inside information. I mean, 1072 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 2: you can argue media members end up with inside information 1073 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 2: through our connections to teams, through being around the fighters, 1074 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, if you're on a fight week 1075 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 2: and you're interviewing fighters all week, you can see certain 1076 00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 2: things that can sway you either way. I do. It 1077 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: can go sideways anytime there's a lot of money to 1078 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 2: be made. Look, you know this in life, Okay. 1079 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's just care Combat sports has to be 1080 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 3: very careful about it's and this is true for boxing, MMA, 1081 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: anything anything combat sports, they always have to be very 1082 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 3: careful about what kind of image they send to the world, because, yes, 1083 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 3: you talk about the Donahy scandal in basketball, but the 1084 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 3: reality is basketball doesn't have as much natural suspicion about 1085 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: it as combat sports do. Right, combat sports people always 1086 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 3: think any kind of decision they don't like, ah, the 1087 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 3: fix is in, the fixes in and Beltore got into 1088 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 3: a little bit of trouble with this. Not with fixing necessarily, 1089 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 3: but when you put old guys together. They were one 1090 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 3: of the first people to first promotions in a major 1091 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 3: way to do this, and you just get these weird 1092 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 3: results because nothing there's anything above board. But when older 1093 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 3: guys fight, they don't respond to trauma or violence the 1094 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 3: same way as your younger selves would, and the bottom 1095 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 3: drops out much quicker. They make more errors, and so 1096 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 3: it looks a little weird relative to what you might 1097 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 3: be accustomed to, and so you run some of these risks. 1098 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 3: The major stakeholders in combat sports now that betting is 1099 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 3: this centrally featured into sports, and by the way, I think, 1100 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 3: on balance, it's quite a good thing. Most people seem 1101 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 3: to enjoy it, Most people are able to use it, 1102 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 3: no problem but to the point you raised, it does 1103 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 3: mean that there might be a case for additional safeguards 1104 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 3: in place to make sure that the appearance anyway of 1105 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 3: impropriety is tamped down. What could you do from a 1106 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 3: medical screening process. I've said this before, Dude, if you 1107 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 3: go to your doctor and you tell him or her 1108 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 3: nothing is wrong, what are they going to do? Like, 1109 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 3: they can take your blood work and if there's something 1110 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 3: alarming in there or you know whatever. But they're not 1111 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 3: going to just make you pay for an X ray 1112 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 3: if they don't have a need to. They're not going 1113 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 3: to just make you like, hey, where we're gonna get 1114 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 3: an MRI today, Let's try the right knee and actually 1115 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 3: it's your left shoulder that's messed up. They're not going 1116 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 3: to do that. It requires a degree of transparency. So 1117 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 3: I don't have any easy answers, but there needs to 1118 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 3: be I think a little more thought about this With 1119 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 3: all the major players, how do we make sure that 1120 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 3: we do the very best thing we can by putting 1121 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 3: better stands in place to have as much of this 1122 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 3: product be as above board as transparent as we possibly can. 1123 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 3: I think the UFC has made a good effort. I 1124 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 3: think DraftKings obviously made a good effort, but when stuff 1125 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 3: like this happens, it just goes on. It just it's wildfire. 1126 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,479 Speaker 3: It just takes off. 1127 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 2: And look, seeing that it was flagged early, that books 1128 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 2: took it off the board. I mean, that's the right 1129 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 2: move for you know, these sports books to be able 1130 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 2: to cover themselves. But I think our to your point, 1131 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 2: on my point as well, UFC has got to gotta 1132 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 2: really make sure there aren't any potential gaping holes here 1133 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 2: because I mean, they're gonna have to interview everybody. Look, 1134 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 2: there's gonna have to be an absolutely legitimate investigation there 1135 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 2: because I mean, look, people are saying, you know, there's 1136 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 2: a pruder film of Anderson Silva. Was he really hit? 1137 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 3: Dude? 1138 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 2: He was really hit? Were we were there? Okay, he 1139 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 2: was really hit by Jake Paul. But to your point, 1140 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,439 Speaker 2: every fight's fixed in the eyes of somebody who lost 1141 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 2: to bet or their favorite fighter didn't win. Sosh, this 1142 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: wasn't good though, Dude, this wasn't good. There's nothing about 1143 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 2: this that looked good. 1144 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it it just looks strange. Everything about it was strange, 1145 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 3: and so I'm glad that that there is some investigation 1146 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 3: about it. Hopefully they can reveal to the public what 1147 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 3: they find in the end. All right, BC, let's talk 1148 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 3: a little boxing, because holy geebus, did Dimitri Bivol look amazing? 1149 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 3: How about this for a stat BC, zerdo Ramirez missed 1150 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 3: on eighty eight percent of his punches? Eighty eight percent? 1151 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 3: He missed nearly nine out of every ten he threw. 1152 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 3: Dimitri Bivoll may have given him a couple of rounds, 1153 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 3: maybe a few at most if you're being generous, but 1154 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 3: holy shit, dude, he looked like an absolute hammer. BC. 1155 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,760 Speaker 3: Is it now time to make the fight with better BFT. 1156 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 3: I know he's got to fight Anthony Yard in the 1157 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 3: first quarter, but just give me your impressions. How much 1158 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 3: did Bivoll prove here? 1159 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 2: A lot? He is a great, great fighter, a pound 1160 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 2: for pound top ten ranked fighter already before this. But 1161 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 2: you want to talk about let's talk about what he 1162 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 2: did in there against a bigger, stronger in theory in 1163 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 2: terms of coming in, you know, a more powerful opponent. 1164 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 2: And Luke, you mentioned the eighty eight percent that he 1165 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 2: made zero miss If it had been the Dmitri Bevall 1166 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 2: of old when he originally won his world title, who 1167 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 2: was again, I'll echo it was never afraid to fight 1168 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 2: boring in boxing the outside and control you that way. 1169 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 2: If that was the best plan of attack. If you 1170 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 2: told me before I watched this fight, I've seen the future. 1171 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 2: He's gonna prevent eighty eight percent of punches, I go, Okay, 1172 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 2: Bevall must have really controlled from the outside with the 1173 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 2: jab and just box circles and never made it a 1174 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 2: real fight like we said Ramirez would have to do 1175 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 2: to win this fight. Look, that's not what played out. 1176 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 2: This fight was exciting as heck, despite it being you know, 1177 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 2: largely one sided. Why because like the Canelo fight, where 1178 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 2: we said, coming in when I picked the bev All upset, 1179 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: I said, look, he's going to have to be the 1180 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 2: power punch or something he normally doesn't do. And he was. 1181 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 2: He was the bigger man in that matchup, and he 1182 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,439 Speaker 2: stood in there and he delivered with that right hand 1183 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 2: and landed the telling blows. So the judges had no 1184 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 2: reason to go in the direction of Canelo. Well, what 1185 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 2: happened in this fight. He fought a bigger, stronger, more 1186 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 2: dangerous opponent and he was still the bigger puncher and 1187 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 2: acted the role of the bigger man, how by dominating 1188 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 2: that middle distance in front of Zerdo, yet still not 1189 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,399 Speaker 2: being able to be hit clean. He was hit here 1190 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 2: and there, and Beevall's showing us more and more that 1191 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 2: he does have a pretty damn good chin as well. 1192 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 2: But Luke, what am I most impressed with? 1193 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 3: Here? 1194 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 2: Dmitri Bevall stood in the pocket against a taller and 1195 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 2: longer fighter with a bigger history of knockouts and being 1196 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: a finisher, and was almost untouched. When you talk about 1197 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 2: from the standpoint of power shots, swiveled, avoided, his defense 1198 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 2: is among I mean, look already you said it coming 1199 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,280 Speaker 2: in copy of box Wives. Statistically, Bevall's at another level 1200 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 2: compared to everyone else in boxing. But that defense statistic 1201 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 2: looks a certain way when you fight defensive. He wasn't 1202 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 2: fighting defensive on Saturday. He was right in front of Zerdo. 1203 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 2: And any time there was a moment where Zerdo could 1204 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 2: potentially put together some momentum, what did Bevall do? He 1205 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 2: stepped forward, planted his feet and lit him up with 1206 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 2: power shots. This is a fighter who's better than we 1207 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 2: thought he was, who when the stakes get larger, the 1208 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 2: lights get brighter, like against Canelo and now against Zerto. 1209 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 2: He elevates his game to another level where not only 1210 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 2: do I need to see him against unbeaten archer, better 1211 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 2: Beef next year for all four one hundred and seventy 1212 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 2: five pound titles. Look, I might end up favoring beev 1213 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 2: All coming into that because he can do it all. No, 1214 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 2: he's not a one punch knockout guy, but he consistently 1215 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 2: backed Zerto up. He hurt him repeatedly with that right hand, 1216 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 2: where Ramirez Huga give a lot of credit. He never 1217 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 2: stopped trying to win this fight, but every single avenue 1218 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 2: was closed. Luke, I want to identify two key moments 1219 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 2: here that jumped out at me. At the end of 1220 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: that first round, beef All dug in and landed about 1221 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,760 Speaker 2: five or six huge power shots in the closing ten seconds, 1222 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 2: and then uncharacteristically, God in Zerto's face didn't taut him, 1223 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 2: taunt him, but just looked him in the eye. They 1224 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 2: bumped shoulders and chests against one another, and it was 1225 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 2: like Bevoll's way of telling him, You're not gonna do 1226 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 2: what you think you're gonna do, which is overpower me 1227 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 2: and wear me down. I'm gonna stand in here and 1228 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 2: take it and then when I want to fast forward 1229 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 2: to the ninth round, it was probably the best setup 1230 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 2: for Zerto to do what he does. He had Bevall 1231 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 2: cornered against the ropes. He was letting off big power shots. 1232 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 2: Bevall's defense was there, but Beevoll spun out of that position. 1233 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 2: Back Zerto up and you can argue had his best 1234 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 2: stretch of clean power shots. This guy is an absolute 1235 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 2: technician who's now willing to be an offensive force when 1236 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 2: he needs to be, to once again take away the 1237 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 2: plan a of his opponent. Not only is this guy 1238 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 2: deserving among the ten best fighters in the world at 1239 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 2: this moment, I think he's your twenty twenty two Fighter 1240 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,479 Speaker 2: of the Year in this sport after what he did. 1241 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 2: Let's put it up there. He beat the pomper pound 1242 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 2: king Canela Alvarez, who was daring to be great, and 1243 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 2: he beat him cleanly. And then he went in against 1244 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: a forty four to oh bigger opponent who was game 1245 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: as heck, and he knocked him around the ring. I mean, 1246 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 2: you want to talk about eye opening performances, Dmitri Bevall 1247 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 2: has shown us he's that dude. And hey, Archer betterbev 1248 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 2: who is one of the most thorough well rounded destroyers 1249 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 2: in this game. There's somebody who's coming who's quicker than you, 1250 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 2: more accurate than you, and has proven now he's got 1251 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 2: a backbone to potentially stand in with you. Mark your 1252 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 2: calendars next year whenever we see this. If Better Beef 1253 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 2: gets by Anthony Yard, which he should in January, there's 1254 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 2: gonna be one of the best fights you can make 1255 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 2: in this entire sport. I want I want fury Usik, 1256 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 2: I want Spencing Crawford. Those are the sexy matchups between 1257 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 2: big you know, big stars, unbeating guys all that this 1258 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 2: might be a better fight. Dmitri Beevoal versus Archer Beterviev. Okay, 1259 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 2: get ready because bev All is coming on. He's here. 1260 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 2: I never thought he was this good. He is. Luke 1261 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 2: damn BC. 1262 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 3: I can tell you it's this is a gross oversimplification, 1263 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 3: but there is a little something to it, which is 1264 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 3: that we need to see the better beev fight with Bivol, 1265 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 3: because with Better Beev as a world champion one hundred 1266 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 3: percent finishing rate, one hundred percent finishing rate versus a 1267 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 3: guy who has some of the best defense in all 1268 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 3: of boxing, it's elite defense meets elite offense. We absolutely 1269 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 3: must see it now I know better. Beev has a 1270 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 3: fight coming up with Anthony Yard, I believe in January 1271 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 3: something like that first quarter of twenty twenty three. So 1272 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 3: I guess we'll see how that goes. But here's I 1273 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 3: don't have much to add to what you said. I 1274 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 3: thought you said it quite perfectly, but I would just 1275 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 3: add BC it wasn't like even here's what it seems 1276 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 3: to me. It's not that Bivall didn't fight defensively. The 1277 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 3: numbers speak to it that he did. And this is 1278 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 3: why I always say defense wins championships. But the key 1279 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 3: to understanding it is that he was able to maintain 1280 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 3: defense without really having a clear and noticeable tradeoff on 1281 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 3: his offense. Some people can do that right where they're like, Okay, 1282 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 3: I can be much more defensively sound, but it's going 1283 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 3: to come at the cost of what I need to 1284 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 3: get my offense going. They might be a volume striker 1285 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be, and so they can 1286 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 3: be better. But then there's you got to make a 1287 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 3: choice about how much offense you're gonna have. He didn't 1288 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 3: have to make that. He never had to make a 1289 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 3: trade off calculation. It seemed like once in this fight, 1290 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 3: maybe there's again two three rounds. Maybe at most you 1291 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 3: could give Ramirez that's it. That's it. So what Bivol 1292 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 3: is now showing is not any kind of letting his 1293 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 3: foot off the gas with his defense. Now he's able 1294 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 3: to juggle them in proportion to make him a goddamn 1295 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 3: nightmare for anybody who fights at one hundred and seventy 1296 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 3: five pounds. He's hard to hurt, he's hard to land on, 1297 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 3: he's hard to find, he's hard to deter. And now 1298 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 3: he can find you, he can land on you. He 1299 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 3: has created he knows all your openings. He disrupts your 1300 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,439 Speaker 3: rhythm while you can barely land a glove on the guy. Boy, 1301 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 3: good fucking luck fighting him. You're gonna need it. 1302 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 2: And it's what's interesting, look is there's other truly elite 1303 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 2: fighters who can do some of this, meaning like let's 1304 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 2: give Canelo, Gervonti, Davis credit. They can stand fairly close 1305 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: to you, they can use head and trunk movement and pivot. 1306 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 2: But what they're typically looking to do is land, you know, 1307 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 2: one big counter shot to either disarm you or dissuade you. 1308 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 2: Bevoll was at that same range, only he's working the 1309 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 2: defense in real time and then coming back with clean 1310 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 2: can Look, we were sending each other gifts of some 1311 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 2: of these highlight packages that his Oonne was running after 1312 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 2: the rounds where he would corner Ramirez again, a bigger puncher, 1313 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 2: never lost, and just lighting him up with one clean 1314 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 2: punch after another. Dude, this is a guy who, like 1315 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 2: how many times do we see really in both combat sports, 1316 01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 2: you'll see somebody who's so gifted technically translates to defense. 1317 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 2: But we say, man, if they only had that that 1318 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 2: that next level gear or that willingness to put themselves 1319 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 2: in danger, I've really I've never seen someone be able 1320 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 2: to put themselves in this kind of danger and let 1321 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 2: and not have it, not have it fail on them, 1322 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like like he wasn't he 1323 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 2: was never in any kind of trouble. Any shot he 1324 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: was hit with, he took it well, and he rotated. 1325 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: He was right in front of zerdo the entire night, dude, 1326 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 2: Like you know, there were a lot of scenarios in 1327 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 2: which Bevall could have boxed won a clean twelve round decision. 1328 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 2: We've been like, Okay, skills win fights. This wasn't about 1329 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 2: just skill. This was a complete This is as complete 1330 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 2: as a calm. This was this is incan. Look, I 1331 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 2: think he's the fighter of the year and some degree. 1332 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 2: This has been a weird year where a lot of 1333 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 2: the big stars only fought once. You know, Spence Stephen 1334 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 2: Fulton Junior, who seemed to be somebody who was gonna, 1335 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, enter in there. Hey nee, Yes, he had 1336 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 2: the two wins over cambosis, and he traveled to do it. 1337 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 2: Maybe this is the perfect storm where we don't have 1338 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 2: somebody with like a slam dunk case. So it makes 1339 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 2: sense for Bevall. But you can't ask for any better 1340 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 2: com petition that he's been facing, and you can't ask 1341 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 2: for two more impressive performances. He's coming out of his 1342 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 2: shell when it matters and showing us how great he 1343 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 2: can be. Look, he's not a Marketer's dream. You know, 1344 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 2: he could speak English. He's got a nice smile, but 1345 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 2: he's a good dude. But his game is speaking volumes 1346 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 2: right now. Damn. 1347 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 3: By the way, did he look to be in slightly 1348 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 3: better shape to you than he was against Canelo? 1349 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he looked. 1350 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 3: He looked to me like that whatever strength and conditioning 1351 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 3: he did for this one was a little bit better. 1352 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 3: Not that he was in like bad shape or anything 1353 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 3: for Canelo, but he looked to me like he was 1354 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 3: even even sturdier this time around, which makes sense finding 1355 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 3: a guy. Yes, he was coming up a weight class 1356 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 3: as well previously, not this time around, but you know, 1357 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 3: it made sense to kind of bulk up in that 1358 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 3: way versus against Canelo. Maybe not, but he looked he 1359 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 3: looked amazing. So then BC, if you can in your 1360 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 3: mind crystal ball a little bit with the right, with 1361 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 3: the right and the reservation, I should say to change 1362 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 3: your answer later if you so choose. But as you're 1363 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 3: feeling right now, what does a bivel better BEF fight 1364 01:03:59,040 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 3: look like. 1365 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Well, here's what's interesting is is Bival is a small 1366 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 2: light heavyweight. I mean you saw the size difference between 1367 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 2: them there. In fact, he's always gone on record if 1368 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: you talk to him long enough and saying I could 1369 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 2: make sixty eight if I really had to, And there 1370 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 2: was a time when he really wanted Canelo before Canelo 1371 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 2: came back up again to light heavyweight where he was 1372 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 2: willing to make that. Yet then he comes out with 1373 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 2: these two performances. Okay, well, maybe you're supposed to do 1374 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 2: that against a smaller guy and Canelo, although with Canelo's skillset, 1375 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 2: Bevo had to show all the tools to win that 1376 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 2: the way he did. But now that he did this 1377 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 2: against somebody Ramirez his size, who brings that level of danger. 1378 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 2: Ramirez is not as good as Better Beav I'm not 1379 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 2: trying to say that, but he's evolving his identity to 1380 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,959 Speaker 2: the point where I teased it off my original thought process. Dude, 1381 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 2: you might actually favor him coming in His handspeed was 1382 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 2: well ahead of Ramirez. Is the one thing about Better 1383 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 2: beav that is a negative is he's getting older. He's 1384 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,439 Speaker 2: got thirty sev he probably thirty eight by the time 1385 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, they probably fight next years. He hasn't really 1386 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 2: looked like he slowed down, although that one comeback fight 1387 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 2: he had after the long wayoff, he looked kind of human. 1388 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 2: He don't look human against Joe Smith Junior. He took 1389 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 2: care of matters. What would this fight look like? Do 1390 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 2: I expect beav All to dig in and fight the 1391 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 2: same style that he did against Ramirez, considering that Better 1392 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 2: Beav has some of the most crushing power in this game. 1393 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 2: He's eighteen and zer with eighteen KOs. Not necessarily, but Luke, 1394 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily believe that he was gonna be able 1395 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 2: to stand that close to Ramirez and just not get 1396 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 2: hit either. His defense is at another level. I don't 1397 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 2: know what it would look like. Can he win this 1398 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 2: fight from the outside if he has to, can he 1399 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 2: dig in? I mean, he's gonna have to land clean 1400 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 2: shots and make It's gonna really come down to his chin, 1401 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 2: which has something we never really talk about with him 1402 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 2: because he doesn't put himself in bad situations. He is 1403 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 2: going to have to get close to that fire against 1404 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 2: better Beav but then also show that he won't be 1405 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 2: deterred if he gets hit clean. Easier said than done. 1406 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 2: But this is going to be a fight at a 1407 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,919 Speaker 2: very high level because let's not forget Arthur better Beef 1408 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 2: can box like a son of a gun as well. Well. 1409 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 2: But when this fight opens up, if Beevoll's chin is 1410 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 2: also at this extreme elite level, dude, I'm telling you 1411 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 2: we're looking at a guy. I mean, it's stiff competition 1412 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 2: right now for pomp for pound Kingship. Right, you might 1413 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 2: like a new a you might like Spencer Crawford Canelo 1414 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 2: is on the way in the other direction, but he 1415 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 2: was just there. Ooh, sick is in this conversation as well. Dude, 1416 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 2: If beev All goes out there and beats better Bee, 1417 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 2: if he might be a pound for pound king. That's 1418 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 2: the type of skill we're talking about. So what does 1419 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,959 Speaker 2: this fight look like? Does beev All have another gear 1420 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 2: on top of what we just saw. I don't know, Luke, 1421 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 2: but I might favor him entering this because his speed 1422 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 2: is better than I thought it was at this level, 1423 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 2: and he's got enough pop because of how cleanly he throws, 1424 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 2: and how you know, he squares himself up in the 1425 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 2: right moments and just lights you up. This could be 1426 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 2: a problem for Better Beef. It really can be. And 1427 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 2: you got to do that for twelve rounds against our 1428 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 2: tur and and by the way, nobody's gone the distance 1429 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 2: against Better Beave up to this point. But beev All 1430 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,520 Speaker 2: has a chance to be historically great here. I mean seriously, 1431 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,439 Speaker 2: he gets a win here over Better but even becomes 1432 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,479 Speaker 2: the UNDISPILHV has a chance to do something huge. He's 1433 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 2: showing us that he's willing to take on the danger 1434 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 2: to do it. What does this fight look like? I 1435 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 2: don't know, but I can't wait to see it. Look, 1436 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 2: let's do it next year. Okay, Anthony Yard's gonna have 1437 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 2: his say. 1438 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 3: But how hard is the fight to make? 1439 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 4: Right? 1440 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Because better Weev is on with top rank on ESPN, 1441 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 3: Bivall's over here on his owne is that fight really doable? 1442 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 3: How likely is it that it gets made? Obviously there's 1443 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 3: a ton of interest, But how real world doable is it? 1444 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 2: It's a great question. It's a great question. Sometimes people 1445 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 2: are more willing to work together when you know there's 1446 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 2: the potential for history and either fighter has no other 1447 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 2: option of great note? Could you argue that in this case, 1448 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 2: is there you know, with Eddie Hern who's the Bevall's 1449 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 2: promoter under the dezone banner, and Bob Aaron with top 1450 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 2: rank in ESPN, is there a way they can work 1451 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 2: out a trade or do a two network deal or 1452 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 2: just you know, given this in the circumstances, I don't know, Luke. 1453 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 2: I hope cooler heads can prevail. Sometimes it's harder to 1454 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 2: make these type of fights when you have bigger stars 1455 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 2: because they demand more for these two fighters better be 1456 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 2: even Bevall. This is their super Bowl. This is as 1457 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 2: big as it gets. Obviously, Bevall fighting Canelo was bigger 1458 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 2: from the standpoint of commercial, but you know, when you're 1459 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 2: fighting the pomper pound king. But this is the career 1460 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 2: defining fight for both. I'm going to put on my 1461 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 2: optimism hat and hope that cooler heads can prevail here. 1462 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's harder, as we're finding out in Crawford Spence 1463 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,560 Speaker 2: when you have two A sides in this case, you 1464 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, there may not be that factor 1465 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 2: in this when when people do sit down and try 1466 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 2: to make it work and try to be reasonable. Let's 1467 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 2: give him a chance to make it. But Anthony Yard 1468 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 2: in January is going to have his shot, Luke. He's 1469 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 2: not the fighter of better beef's class. He should get 1470 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 2: stopped to be fair, But lot to look forward, hey 1471 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,679 Speaker 2: next year. You know, the end of twenty twenty two 1472 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 2: has been a little bit of a of a you know, 1473 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 2: turret in the side pocket there, Luke for boxing. Okay, 1474 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more than a little bit, because 1475 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 2: we thought, you know, we thought at one point we 1476 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 2: could go Crawford Spence. You Ouhsik Fury Tank ry guy 1477 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,599 Speaker 2: to close the year, which would have been like, you know, 1478 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 2: getting your Christmas presents on Thanksgiving? Right, it would have 1479 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 2: been incredible. Next year, next year could be something. Okay, 1480 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 2: boxing fans, okay, MMA fans who have taken the taste test, 1481 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 2: all right, never forget that boxing cannon will break your 1482 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,879 Speaker 2: heart and your wallet. But sometimes sometimes, you know, sometimes 1483 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 2: you get what you need, right magic, You know what 1484 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean. You know what I'm saying. You know what 1485 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean. I need this shit, Luke, Okay, this this 1486 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 2: keeps me a lot. 1487 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 3: It's a drug for you, It's a drug. We'll see 1488 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 3: what happens. All right, Let's move to point number five 1489 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 3: BC to wrap up our top five here. Now I 1490 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 3: want to be very careful about, you know, the situation. 1491 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 3: So the question is this. David Morrell Junior shined against 1492 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 3: Idos your buscently who we called your bossing Newly. Unfortunately 1493 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 3: on our broadcast we didn't know how it was pronounced, 1494 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 3: so we apologize. But your Bossentiy. He eventually stopped him 1495 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 3: in the twelfth round. Now my question is about whether 1496 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 3: or not he's a thread at one sixty eight. First 1497 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 3: things first, Dan Rafael last night reporting that your bus 1498 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,639 Speaker 3: Scientile was put into a medically induced coma. B. See 1499 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 3: first things, let's discuss that off the top now, I'll 1500 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,719 Speaker 3: be honest. Yes, he looked to be in bad shape 1501 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 3: after the stoppage when he was trying to get to 1502 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 3: his feet and he couldn't. You actually see David Morrell 1503 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 3: Junior try and help him, and so that was nice. 1504 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 3: I'll be candid. I did see some people saying, oh, 1505 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 3: it should have been stopped after the six I did 1506 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 3: not feel in real time like I was watching any 1507 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 3: warning signs and it was a veteran referee as well. 1508 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 3: Your reaction to the news that quite unfortunately, We obviously 1509 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 3: hope for the best that your buscientile is in a 1510 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 3: medically induced coma. 1511 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's scary. My prayers could not be more in 1512 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 2: his direction. I think all the all of boxing is 1513 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 2: essentially under that same thought process. It should be. I look, 1514 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 2: I'll be look. I was I was ringside, and was 1515 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 2: it twenty thirteen when when Mago met ab Dusalov, the 1516 01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 2: beat and heavyweight fought Mike Perez and you know, and 1517 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 2: ended up in a coma on you know, and today 1518 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 2: you know his career is over and he's got some 1519 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,640 Speaker 2: very serious physical elements from that, and it's lucky to 1520 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 2: be alive. I do remember in that fight feeling like, man, 1521 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 2: why are we still doing this? Stop it? This fight 1522 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 2: didn't have that same feeling, although it ended up being 1523 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 2: kind of a worst case scenario for your Bosscently, where 1524 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,280 Speaker 2: it looked early like when Morel was lighting him up, like, 1525 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 2: you know, we're headed toward a stoppage here. For whatever reason, 1526 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 2: for maybe the toughness of your boss Sentely, it just 1527 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 2: didn't happen. Give Morel credit for how we finished it, 1528 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 2: But no, there wasn't points in that where I thought, hey, man, 1529 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: you know we're getting into some dangerous territory, even though 1530 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 2: you could see that the weariness and the toll of 1531 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 2: staying in a fight that late against somebody like Morrell 1532 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 2: was taking on your bossently. And it's the fights that 1533 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 2: you don't get finished early but take big punishment that 1534 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 2: are the most dangerous. But we do have a bit 1535 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 2: of an updated reporting here from Jake Donovan of Boxing 1536 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 2: Scene dot Com just in the last hour where he 1537 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 2: caught up with Suleiman Promotions, which is represents idos your 1538 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 2: Sin and they confirm that yes, the fighter is in 1539 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 2: a medically induced coma inside the hospital of Minneapolis, but 1540 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,480 Speaker 2: they dismissed the claims that he's in critical condition as misinformation, 1541 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 2: which is great to hear if that's the case. The 1542 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 2: promotion insists that the doctors have informed his condition to 1543 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 2: be not life threatening. They expect a full recovery. He'll 1544 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 2: remain under observation for at least two weeks. Luke, this 1545 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 2: is this game. It's it's you know, combat sports in general, 1546 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 2: but boxing with the maybe the lighter gloves and the 1547 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 2: sustained head damage. It happens, and it's there's never the 1548 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 2: right words to say afterwards. If your boss Sineley can 1549 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 2: recover from this, as his promotion seems to be putting 1550 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 2: out there is the direction he seems to be heading, 1551 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 2: then then you know, this is great news. But this 1552 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 2: is the reality of the sport, and we love it 1553 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 2: for the brutality and the courage that it shows. But 1554 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 2: you know it can create these same type of situations. 1555 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 2: But that little bit of breaking news there, it helps 1556 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 2: to a certain degree, and we certainly are with your 1557 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 2: boss Sentley in his battle until he can get back 1558 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 2: on his feet. 1559 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 3: Here, no doubt about it. I'm glad to hear that's 1560 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 3: that's a very encouraging sign. And let's just hope for 1561 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 3: the best and we'll see how it goes day by day. 1562 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 3: But certainly everyone on this show sends their prayers to 1563 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,719 Speaker 3: your Biscinley. Now, BC, in a respectful way, I would 1564 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 3: like to talk about the performance of David Morrell Junior. 1565 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 3: For as much as there is some concern about your Bossientley, 1566 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 3: a fight did take place, there is something to be 1567 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 3: said for what Morell was able to achieve. And again 1568 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,360 Speaker 3: I want to be you know, understanding of your Bossidley situation. 1569 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,680 Speaker 3: The BC had looked to me like David Morrell Junior, Wow, man, 1570 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 3: I was sleeping on his defense. It was on point 1571 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 3: his eyes. 1572 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 2: And we all were, yeah, we've all been. 1573 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,720 Speaker 3: Let me just ask you this way. Is he a 1574 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 3: thread at one sixty eight? Right now? 1575 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 2: He is? He's what seven and oh with six nurs 1576 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 2: at eight and oh? Now with seven KOs. Here's the 1577 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 2: deal with David Morrell Junior, who's only twenty four years old. Lord, 1578 01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,240 Speaker 2: he wants all the smoke. We know this. He's had 1579 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 2: this second Doory Dary title for a few fights now. 1580 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 2: He's always calling out Benavidez and Canelo. He is leveling 1581 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 2: up on a fight by fight basis and the leap 1582 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:12,400 Speaker 2: he made here. Okay, look mandatory opponent, Yes, hand speeded 1583 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 2: in foot speed advantage that proved to be the major 1584 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 2: part of him having success. Yes, but Luke, you mentioned 1585 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 2: the defense when he first started getting legitimate push. It 1586 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 2: happened a few times on some PBC on Fox cards. 1587 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,599 Speaker 2: I think a lot of us in the boxing game 1588 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 2: were like, okay, but you know, does what he's does, 1589 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 2: what he's doing in the ring really match sort of 1590 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,680 Speaker 2: the push he's getting, the featured placement, he's getting the 1591 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 2: opportunity at that secondary title. Now you're seeing full bloom 1592 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 2: what I mentioned last week his longtime manager errors manager 1593 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 2: promoter here Louis to Cubis Junior, who works hand in 1594 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,920 Speaker 2: hand with Al Hayiman a PBC, when he told me, 1595 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 2: look that I've never seen a Cuban prospect like this, 1596 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 2: and I've seen or represented them all. I think, Luke, 1597 01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 2: this was the performance that really backs up that kind 1598 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 2: of statement. The head and truck movement defensively, the quickness 1599 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 2: and the variety of his power punching and shot selection, 1600 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 2: the showmanship with the you know, the the Ali shuffle 1601 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 2: and stuff, and I do see a lot of people saying, look, 1602 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 2: this was maybe a matchup skills wise, at the end 1603 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 2: of the day, he should do this. Can he do 1604 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,600 Speaker 2: that type of dancing against truly elite fodes? Should he 1605 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 2: do that type of dancing? He's you know, he's not 1606 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,479 Speaker 2: to show it's that probably not right. He's gonna have 1607 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:31,560 Speaker 2: to be on point. But he showed you enough of 1608 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 2: that next level magic there that at twenty four years old, 1609 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 2: his ceiling is much larger than it originally appeared to be. 1610 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 2: He's fixed up a lot of those defensive holes. He 1611 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 2: is dynamic offensively to get off shots, to to put 1612 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 2: together sort of you know, combinations you don't see coming 1613 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 2: unnatural sort of combination. I mean, look, I am very 1614 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 2: impressed at what he can do in this division, and 1615 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 2: things could not be heating up in a better way 1616 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 2: at the moment. What we talked about last week, Plant 1617 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 2: Plant versus Benavita is on the way. Canelo's coming back 1618 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 2: from injury next summer ish and has all four titles 1619 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 2: and just as well could come back and try to 1620 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 2: defend them. Jamal Charlow could be moving up. David Morrell 1621 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,840 Speaker 2: Junior is now firmly in the midst of that entire 1622 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 2: larger conversation. You love to see it. You love to 1623 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 2: see one of fighter ads experience ads maturity and leaps 1624 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 2: through your screen. He's only twenty four, He's a Southpaw. 1625 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 2: He's got a home a bit of a you know, 1626 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 2: sort of unique home court advantage there in his new 1627 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,560 Speaker 2: in his second home of Minneapolis. Yeah, the hype, the 1628 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 2: hype is starting to it is starting to make sense now, 1629 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 2: it really is. 1630 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. I said it on the prelams, which, 1631 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 3: by the way, all the MK fans who tuned in, 1632 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 3: thank you so much. B C and I. We truly 1633 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 3: we all love when you turn in tune in no 1634 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 3: matter what, but for those we really appreciate when you 1635 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 3: guys make the effort, especially if you're an MA fan. 1636 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 3: You're slow to convert to boxing, so thank you. If 1637 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 3: you're watching. I had thought that we were. I knew 1638 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 3: we were going to see dynamic offense, which we did. 1639 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 3: I just wasn't sure about the defensive end of things. 1640 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,760 Speaker 3: Jesus that proved to be totally wrong. He looked so 1641 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 3: good in every department, in every way. There was you 1642 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 3: know a couple of moments where your bus Simmy was 1643 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 3: able to offensively stifle him or whatever. But in general, 1644 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,960 Speaker 3: this was really the David Morrell junior show. And we 1645 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,760 Speaker 3: see the one thing you're pointing out when he would 1646 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,960 Speaker 3: go to the body and then lean over and get 1647 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 3: the inside uppercut. Oh my, I mean it was just 1648 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,879 Speaker 3: and it was so fast and so clean and so crisp. 1649 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 3: He can do it all. He just looked like he 1650 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,960 Speaker 3: was an all star performance out there really in every 1651 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 3: kind of way. Where he will go against more senior 1652 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 3: or difficult opposition certainly remains to be seen. But I 1653 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 3: get the hype on the kid now. I was a 1654 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 3: little bit slow with it before, not anymore like you. 1655 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 3: I finally had the wake up moment, the Eureka moment. 1656 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 3: Let's say, in this contest he is for real. We 1657 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 3: still have to see obviously bigger questions and bigger tests ahead, 1658 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,880 Speaker 3: but like, why is he bad at at this point? 1659 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,519 Speaker 3: Where's the obvious place where you just know he can't go? 1660 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 3: I'm not sure we've discovered that yet. I'm not sure exists. 1661 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 2: And look, your boss Sendingy was tough as nails, and 1662 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,080 Speaker 2: for him to hang around for you know, into the 1663 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 2: twelfth round was really incredible. But I don't know if 1664 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 2: Morell can look this virtuoso against you know, better handspeed 1665 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,760 Speaker 2: across from him. He's gonna have to prove that. But 1666 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 2: I do wonder when we look back at some of 1667 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,800 Speaker 2: the early fights in his rise, he only has eight 1668 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 2: pro fights. Just a reminder, folks, you know, you could 1669 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 2: really now look at and he's putting this together in 1670 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 2: real time, you know what I mean. And he could 1671 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 2: not ask for a more experienced team. He's got the 1672 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 2: great Ronnie Shields of Houston as his main trainer, who's 1673 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 2: coached everybody. He's got Bob Santos, says his cutman, who's 1674 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 2: becoming one of the brightest minds in the game. And oh, 1675 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 2: by the way, I didn't even realize this heading into 1676 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 2: the fight. Andre Darrell, Luke and I called the fight 1677 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 2: in the featured prelim main event on Saturday where thirty 1678 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,360 Speaker 2: nine year old Andre Darrell came back against Uniesky Gonzalez. 1679 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 2: We didn't know if Derell was gonna get knocked the 1680 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 2: hell out or whatever. He came back ready to fight, 1681 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,680 Speaker 2: and he looked great. Bob Santos in his corner. This 1682 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 2: is a trainer who's making big moves. This is Morel's 1683 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,639 Speaker 2: cutman right now. I mean, look, you know we've seen 1684 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 2: it before, right Papachenko, Lomachenko's trainer. They added Russ Amber 1685 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,800 Speaker 2: as they're cut man, a longtime trainer with a great knowledge. 1686 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 2: This corner is an incubator right now for David Morrell, 1687 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 2: who has great physical gifts here to now add the 1688 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 2: mental ones in the variety to his game where let's 1689 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:21,679 Speaker 2: watch out, let's watch out moving forward. 1690 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was just going to say, too, well, 1691 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,240 Speaker 3: I'll save it here for a minute. That does it 1692 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 3: for our top five here BC. 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Click on that microphone 1728 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,640 Speaker 2: at the top and then type in our code mourning Combat. 1729 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 2: Two words. Put them together morning combat with a K, 1730 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,679 Speaker 2: do that shit and ship it with shipstation. Yeah, we see. 1731 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,599 Speaker 3: Before we get to your feces, let's talk quickly about 1732 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,559 Speaker 3: the Hammer of the Month nominee. So we're gonna pick 1733 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 3: one for, like, you know, somebody who's ascending and really 1734 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 3: making a name for themselves, not so much in the 1735 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 3: main or comin event role, but somebody else who may 1736 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 3: be a little bit unheralded for Hammer of the Month. 1737 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,200 Speaker 3: So you can, of course use the hashtag Hammer of 1738 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,680 Speaker 3: the Month if you want to. You can use the 1739 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,360 Speaker 3: hashtag Holy Hammer. Really up to you. Of course. You 1740 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 3: want to make sure you follow money Lion on Instagram 1741 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,599 Speaker 3: at money Lion Inc. Or on Twitter at money Lion, 1742 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,280 Speaker 3: make sure you tag them, make sure you follow them, 1743 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,639 Speaker 3: make sure you have hashtag there BC. You could put 1744 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,679 Speaker 3: Andre Durell in that list. We thought he looked really 1745 01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 3: good all things considered. By the way, famed MMA trainer 1746 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 3: Phil Deru trained Andre Durell for this contest. He might 1747 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 3: be the trainer, you know for Dustin Poarier and many 1748 01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 3: other ones as well. He was training Durell for this one. 1749 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 3: So he's got good company in his corner, so to speak, 1750 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:19,559 Speaker 3: as well. 1751 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 2: BC whoa he had? He had, Bob Sanchos is his 1752 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 2: main guy. Was Deru working throughout the entire camp in Florida. 1753 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in Florida, that's right. He was his guy. 1754 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,080 Speaker 3: So you know you can tell, man, Phil gets these 1755 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 3: guys ready to go. Man, he really does, so shots 1756 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,880 Speaker 3: to Phill Derue. But dude, another name. I don't know 1757 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 3: if you saw the Cage Warriors main event, Paul Hughes. Dude, 1758 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,040 Speaker 3: if you guys haven't seen this, this kid, Paul Hughes. 1759 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 3: Cage Warriors has an interesting relationship to the American market 1760 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 3: because they're very best stuff, which is to me, on 1761 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,280 Speaker 3: par with virtually any other organization outside the UFC. It's 1762 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,280 Speaker 3: specifically designed for a European audience, which is nothing wrong 1763 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 3: with that, but that's what it is. And then you 1764 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,960 Speaker 3: see their American stuff and it's definitely good. But they're not. 1765 01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 3: It doesn't have the same footprint here that it does 1766 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,560 Speaker 3: in Europe. But if you watch this, it was a rematch, 1767 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,800 Speaker 3: it was for a title unification. Paul Hughes. Let me 1768 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 3: say that one more time. If you guys don't know 1769 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 3: who Paul Hughes is out of Ireland, you better get 1770 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 3: hip to it quickly. Holy shit, this guy looks incredible. 1771 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 3: You couldn't believe he was a prospect with less than 1772 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,320 Speaker 3: ten MMA pro MMA fights on his record. He had 1773 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 3: a tough fight in the main event. And the other 1774 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,680 Speaker 3: kid's name, I'm gonna mispronounce it Vadovich. I'm not sure 1775 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 3: how he pronounced it exactly. I had to watch the 1776 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 3: fight on mute because I was putting my daughter to sleep. 1777 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 3: But dude, he can strike, he can grapple, He was 1778 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 3: at ease in the pocket, made good decisions throughout the 1779 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 3: course of it, went the full distance. Bloodied this guy up. 1780 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 3: He was everywhere he needed to be offensively sound, you know, 1781 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 3: defensively responsible, and just look like his level of skill. 1782 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,519 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just no doubt he's headed to the 1783 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 3: Big Show. Zero whatsoever. Pay attention to Paul Hughes. He 1784 01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 3: would be my personal nominee EBC. 1785 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,679 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you said holy shit. How about hashtag holy 1786 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,280 Speaker 2: hammer on that? Don't forget you can help try to 1787 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,920 Speaker 2: nominate it every month, all right, money Line pairing with 1788 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,519 Speaker 2: Morning Combat, we're gonna give out the physical hammer at 1789 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,719 Speaker 2: the end, So send your nominations by tagging at Money 1790 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 2: Lion on Twitter at money Lion Inc. I NC on Instagram. 1791 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,680 Speaker 2: Make sure you get that hashtag Hammer of the Month. 1792 01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 2: There's a few on this UFC card. 1793 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 3: Luke. 1794 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 2: This past Saturday, you know we're gonna see and have 1795 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:26,599 Speaker 2: you seen this shit? 1796 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:26,760 Speaker 3: That? 1797 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:28,880 Speaker 2: Hey, Pollyanna Vianna Luke. I know a lot of people 1798 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 2: are tweeting about her and Colby lately, but she had 1799 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,439 Speaker 2: a hammer time moment. You know, in fact, you can't 1800 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 2: touch this, So there you go. 1801 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 3: All right, you see, it's time for your feces, all right, Luke. 1802 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,400 Speaker 2: I scoured the globe yesterday as I do every Sunday, 1803 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,760 Speaker 2: for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, 1804 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,799 Speaker 2: and combat sports, of course, but also beyond right, Middle America, 1805 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,679 Speaker 2: white folks, all folks, Luke, Okay, I call this shit. 1806 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 2: Have you seen it? That's what it's called. 1807 01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,879 Speaker 3: Well you really just bumble that intro like a fucking baffoon, 1808 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:01,320 Speaker 3: didn't you? 1809 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 2: Have you? 1810 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:02,719 Speaker 3: People? 1811 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:03,719 Speaker 2: Have you seen this ship? 1812 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 3: All right, Okay, I'm going to see some elder abuse today. 1813 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,280 Speaker 3: I'm letting you know, a lot of people. 1814 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 2: Send me child abuse lately. I'm kind of done with that. 1815 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not really into that anymore. A lot 1816 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,360 Speaker 2: of people sending animal abuse. I don't do that either, folks. 1817 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 3: Okay, animal abuse, I'm into loser abuse and elderly abuse. 1818 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,720 Speaker 2: There we go. Let's start off at UFC fight night 1819 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,840 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, Luke. Amanda Limos had a heck of 1820 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:30,480 Speaker 2: a KO three there against Rodriguez. But how about this celebration, 1821 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,320 Speaker 2: pure emotion, pure jubilation. It was good to see. I 1822 01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,080 Speaker 2: was happy for this. 1823 01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,440 Speaker 3: Is you when the place you buy Delta it's gets restocked. 1824 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 2: No comment, But that's what I'm talking about, Amanda. Get 1825 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 2: it done, Luke. 1826 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,719 Speaker 3: That's me after I blow up the commode at Malca. 1827 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what. I've been there too, after that time 1828 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,599 Speaker 2: we got Mediterranean. Don't do that again. Wow? All right, Luke. 1829 01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,639 Speaker 2: There was a record tying amount of weight misses on Friday. 1830 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 2: Seima Yong, who lost a wide decision to Miranda Maverick, 1831 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,240 Speaker 2: had to cut off her hair in order to make 1832 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty six pounds. Your thoughts. 1833 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 3: I always hate it when they have to do it. 1834 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 3: I've seen it work where they make the weight. But man, 1835 01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:15,679 Speaker 3: you got to cut off your hair to make weight, 1836 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,720 Speaker 3: you might have a tough ass fight ahead in front 1837 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 3: of you. Like you probably drained the shit to get 1838 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:20,519 Speaker 3: down there. 1839 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,760 Speaker 2: You know, remember that time Pauli mal Not you got 1840 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,439 Speaker 2: to have his like dreads cut off in the middle 1841 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 2: of the fight because they were getting in his vision. 1842 01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,639 Speaker 3: Vaguely when was that, It's like. 1843 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 2: Two thousand and eight ish, it was. It was a 1844 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,640 Speaker 2: fight on versus I remember that back in the day. 1845 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,120 Speaker 2: I think you fought love the more endu. And it 1846 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 2: was in Europe because they were building toward a Paulie 1847 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,080 Speaker 2: Ricky Hatton fight. And yeah, all right, by the way, 1848 01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 2: do you see uh I'll talk about that later, okay, Luke. 1849 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 3: Also in the US, this is this is this your 1850 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,440 Speaker 3: hand after you've manscaped? 1851 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,800 Speaker 2: No comment, but that lawnmower four point zero there, that's 1852 01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,760 Speaker 2: a heck of a bag right there. All right, Look, 1853 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 2: did you see the sick standing from flyweight to gear 1854 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,599 Speaker 2: uhlan Beckoff against Nate. 1855 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,719 Speaker 3: Manis Maness, I think no. 1856 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,680 Speaker 2: It's Manus. If you should start watching with the volume on, Luke, 1857 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:15,799 Speaker 2: you'll learn how to say people's names. But Nate Manus will, yeah, 1858 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 2: John Annex around you will. What do you think? I 1859 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 2: love standing guillotines. It's one of those things, Luke, that 1860 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,120 Speaker 2: it just pops me. All right. 1861 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not supposed to get submitted with them, but 1862 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,640 Speaker 3: if they get because the defense is technically easier in 1863 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,360 Speaker 3: the sense that if you've noticed that the hips are 1864 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,679 Speaker 3: not being controlled, but if you can latch that fucker 1865 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 3: on quick enough, man you can just you can force it. 1866 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 3: And if you notice the choking, go If we'll watch 1867 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 3: it one more time, pay attention to the right elbow. 1868 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 3: See how the right elbow is. Let's see if in 1869 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 3: the southern Yeah, I see it's tucked below the shoulder 1870 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 3: of Menes or Manus. That tells you that that fucking 1871 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:47,439 Speaker 3: shit was deep. 1872 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 2: Manus had gone three and oh at bantam way but 1873 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,600 Speaker 2: moved down to flyweight for this fight Luke, but it 1874 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,680 Speaker 2: did not get out of the first round. Big win 1875 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 2: for Ta gear uhlan Beckoff and also, speaking of hashtag 1876 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:04,080 Speaker 2: holy hammer, how about Pollyanna Vanna first round against gin 1877 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 2: U Fry. Not only do we get a thunderous finish, 1878 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 2: but as Bill Raftery would say afterwards, with the kiss, right. 1879 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,920 Speaker 3: She gets a little smooch. Yep, there it is, Yep, 1880 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 3: there it is, Luke. 1881 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 2: We don't see that in this division that often, right, 1882 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,520 Speaker 2: I mean, this was thunderous. 1883 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. You don't see a lot of bop drop them 1884 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 3: like and then hammer fist them out like that. KOs 1885 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,560 Speaker 3: But God bless it, it's a dynamic division. 1886 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 2: You know, with that type of celebration too. Hashtag holy hammer. Indeed, Luke, 1887 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,599 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to remember this name moving forward this month. 1888 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 3: She'd be a good candidate as well. 1889 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:41,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, speaking of hammers, how about bantamweight Tameris v Dal 1890 01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 2: winning the UFC debut with the first round stoppage of 1891 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 2: Ramona Pascual with a flying knee. 1892 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 3: Damn, that is beautiful, oh man, And I don't mind 1893 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,840 Speaker 3: the stoppage there either, Dunzo Dunzoh that was great. 1894 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 2: Damn. Look at this flying knee right to the to 1895 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,680 Speaker 2: the mid section, and then the finish there's a river 1896 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 2: ton Yoni. 1897 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,840 Speaker 3: She throws the right, but then it actually is the 1898 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,559 Speaker 3: left that comes through. Let's see it one more time here, 1899 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,080 Speaker 3: let's see. Yeah, it's the left that's like a bread 1900 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 3: basket slash liver shot there, depending on how it landed exactly. 1901 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,040 Speaker 3: That's nice, really nice show. 1902 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,479 Speaker 2: Tom Boxing was at the Armory in Minnesota. Luke, we 1903 01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 2: mentioned Morell's defense has improved incrementally. Let's take a little 1904 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 2: highlight of that. 1905 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, this is where I was like, yeah, I 1906 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 3: might have been underrating his defense just to tad. 1907 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,320 Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't even show he didn't even show 1908 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,920 Speaker 2: this defense last fight against Calvin Henderson. I mean, this 1909 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:47,519 Speaker 2: is he's Damn he's so good there it is right there. 1910 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,720 Speaker 2: Let's go to the co main event. So Joelviscomez was 1911 01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 2: supposed to take on Jason Rosario Banana, the former unified 1912 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,120 Speaker 2: champion who moved up to middleway. Last minute replacement Brian 1913 01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,200 Speaker 2: Mendoza came up from the undercard. Luke, he kicked the 1914 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 2: shit out of Banana. Look at this finish via uppercut. 1915 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:09,280 Speaker 3: Damn, brother, dude, uppercuts don't come much cleaner than that. 1916 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,960 Speaker 3: That is about as I mean, that's not as good 1917 01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,760 Speaker 3: as the uppercut that Dravante hit on Leo Santa Cruz. Right, 1918 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,320 Speaker 3: that one's a little bit better because that one sent 1919 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,040 Speaker 3: him packing like completely unconscious. 1920 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 4: Woo. 1921 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,840 Speaker 3: He hit him so fucking clean. And if you notice 1922 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 3: you can't quite see less. Just slow the tape down. 1923 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,519 Speaker 3: He flashes just a little bit and then retracts and 1924 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,719 Speaker 3: then fires the uppercut right behind it. So when he flashes, 1925 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 3: you'll see resorts. Excuse me, Yeah, you see Rozario bring 1926 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 3: his hands up and kind of crouch, which means he 1927 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,439 Speaker 3: was leaning into it. And if you watch catch the timing, 1928 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,360 Speaker 3: he catches him as he's stepping, so like, everything about 1929 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,960 Speaker 3: that uppercut is fucking perfect. What a shot. 1930 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,880 Speaker 2: He had dropped banana to the body earlier, and then 1931 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,599 Speaker 2: Luke afterwards he pulled the whole cogun at WrestleMania thirty 1932 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,800 Speaker 2: by saying thank you, Mississippi. Yeah that yeah, I don't 1933 01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,720 Speaker 2: think you probably had the volume down, because that's what 1934 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,400 Speaker 2: you do, all right, Luke. 1935 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 3: Else it's hard because sometimes I gotta watch these with 1936 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,040 Speaker 3: my kid, and sometimes I you know, I gotta watch 1937 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,880 Speaker 3: them solo, so I don't always have the volume on. 1938 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,559 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, Look, that's how you live your life. 1939 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,760 Speaker 2: You miss out on a lot that way. Okay, there's 1940 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 2: a lot of bullshit commentary on some cards, but you 1941 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,200 Speaker 2: know you miss out on the info. Hey, let's go elsewhere. 1942 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 2: In boxing, let's go down under. Let's pour one out 1943 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 2: for Mark Hunt in his retirement bout, he took on 1944 01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:28,160 Speaker 2: unbeating pro boxer Sonny Boy Williams, who's a former rugby 1945 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 2: league star. Luke. He took care of him early here. 1946 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,920 Speaker 3: Damn yeah, dude, that right hand he hit him with 1947 01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,800 Speaker 3: just sent him packing, dude. Sonny Bill Williams was a 1948 01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,679 Speaker 3: player for the All Blacks and like a good one too. 1949 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:42,920 Speaker 3: So that if you don't know who that is, that's 1950 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,479 Speaker 3: rugg that's New Zealand's premier rugby team. 1951 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,479 Speaker 2: So I said, rugby league. There's a difference right between rugby. 1952 01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,000 Speaker 3: And rugby union. 1953 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:53,240 Speaker 2: I don't really know. 1954 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,080 Speaker 3: Okay, it's not my I think he played both. But 1955 01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 3: to be clear, Sonny Bill Williams was a fantastic member 1956 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,679 Speaker 3: of the All Blacks. He's a very very good athlete. 1957 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,639 Speaker 3: An old hunto here just called blams for that right hand. 1958 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,559 Speaker 3: Look at that shit, and I think he retired afterwards. Dude, 1959 01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 3: it's a serious question. Is Mark Hunt the official king 1960 01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,800 Speaker 3: of the walk off KO? I think he is? 1961 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think so. Power the last 1962 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,000 Speaker 2: thing to go. It's still there. Okay, let's get a 1963 01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,840 Speaker 2: little highlight of some of Bevoll's handiwork. Here's some of 1964 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,400 Speaker 2: that pinpoint power punching we talked about against Zerto in 1965 01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:29,320 Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi. 1966 01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,920 Speaker 3: Dude, he had Zerdo just not knowing where the fuck 1967 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,120 Speaker 3: to even look. 1968 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,720 Speaker 2: And every punch is clean and hard. I mean, look 1969 01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:41,880 Speaker 2: at that. And dude, you got to give Zerdo credit. 1970 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 2: Zerto was not irresponsible. LOOKI you know, he tried his best, 1971 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:46,280 Speaker 2: but damn. 1972 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,599 Speaker 3: It just wasn't enough against a guy like this who 1973 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,280 Speaker 3: can do this. And then again, remember what you're watching 1974 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 3: is a guy in Bival who made Zerdo miss or 1975 01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:00,559 Speaker 3: blocked eighty eight percent of his punches. About that for 1976 01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:01,040 Speaker 3: a second. 1977 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Luke on the undercart on his 1978 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,640 Speaker 2: own twenty one year old Campbell hatt and son of 1979 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,280 Speaker 2: Ricky improved to nine and oh he doesn't have a 1980 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,640 Speaker 2: lot of pop, just two knockouts coming in, but he 1981 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,920 Speaker 2: gets the KO one via body shot here. 1982 01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 3: Oh that was a nice shot too. 1983 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:22,600 Speaker 2: So the day of the fight somebody tweeted at Dravante 1984 01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,320 Speaker 2: and was like, hey, we should make Dravante versus Campbell 1985 01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,719 Speaker 2: hat and Dravante quote tweeted in a now deleted tweet 1986 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,559 Speaker 2: saying if we make that fight tomorrow, he'll be having 1987 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,800 Speaker 2: breakfast with his father drinking out of a straw. So 1988 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:34,280 Speaker 2: there you go. 1989 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:39,840 Speaker 3: Look, I mean you're not wrong necessarily. 1990 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,880 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean, but hey, congratulations Campbell hat and 1991 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,320 Speaker 2: good to see right there. Hey, let's go to BKFC 1992 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,640 Speaker 2: thirty two from Orlando. Luke, there was a DQ in 1993 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,639 Speaker 2: this fight. I don't even know who's fighting. But gentlemen, 1994 01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 2: we're on live television here, shades of Strikeforce Nashville. Where's 1995 01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:57,880 Speaker 2: Gus Johnson when you need him? 1996 01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,360 Speaker 3: Oh? He gives him the finger? Oh oh snap. 1997 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,400 Speaker 2: Bear knuckle bonanza. Yep. 1998 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,120 Speaker 3: Dave Feldman getting involved. Hey, listen, are Bras legal in BKFC. 1999 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,559 Speaker 2: I hope Bras Bras are? You know, you can take 2000 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,000 Speaker 2: it off? 2001 01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,519 Speaker 3: Is their main sponsor on the canvas. That is fucking awesome. 2002 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,600 Speaker 2: So David Feldman actually tackled that fighter right there. You 2003 01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:25,880 Speaker 2: can see him. He put him in a headlock and 2004 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,479 Speaker 2: then tackle him to keep the fight from happening. I say, 2005 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,680 Speaker 2: just let him go afterwards, right, I mean, it's a 2006 01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,639 Speaker 2: bare knuckle fight for craps sake. 2007 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,439 Speaker 3: It's not like listen, it's it's overtime rules. 2008 01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, Hey, Luke, A lot of people 2009 01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,760 Speaker 2: in combat sports took part in Halloween, you know, one 2010 01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 2: of your favorite, uh, one of your favorite holidays. How 2011 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,639 Speaker 2: about this for a crossover? La Dodgers third baseman Justin 2012 01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:51,559 Speaker 2: Turner and his wife dressed up as Canalo and his wife. 2013 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,080 Speaker 2: They didn't get the tattoo of the eyeball himself. Go 2014 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 2: no eyeball tattoos on his arm? But are you impressed 2015 01:34:58,960 --> 01:34:59,800 Speaker 2: by his performance here? 2016 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? Not really? Could you? Could you? Could you tie 2017 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 3: those things worse? I mean, what's up with the laces there? 2018 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 3: My guy? 2019 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 2: Okay? Then, well, Luca the new power couple in boxing, 2020 01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,280 Speaker 2: Oscar de la Hoya and Holly Saunders dressed up as 2021 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,479 Speaker 2: Lucy and Ricky. Your thoughts. 2022 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,400 Speaker 3: I don't know how to make a comment about this 2023 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 3: without being unbelievably mean. 2024 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, whoa, Okay, there you go, there it is Okay, yep, 2025 01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,360 Speaker 2: that's it. That's the ship. 2026 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:31,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 2027 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,080 Speaker 2: Okay, anyone listening at home and not watching that's you, 2028 01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,599 Speaker 2: Aaron Bronstutter. You may need to see this, okay. And finally, Luca, 2029 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 2: maybe Combat Sports is most prominent power couple of the moment. 2030 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,280 Speaker 2: Jake Paul and Julia Rose dressing up as is this avatar? 2031 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 2: I didn't see that flick, so I don't know. 2032 01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, this this is avatar. Uh. I gotta 2033 01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,280 Speaker 3: tell you, man, this is a lot of energy just 2034 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,360 Speaker 3: to be like, hey, people have a good costume. I 2035 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 3: just wouldn't. 2036 01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:05,400 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a full body painting. 2037 01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 3: And also Avatar sucked. 2038 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:10,880 Speaker 2: That's what I hear. Luke, Okay, that's what I hear. 2039 01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,880 Speaker 2: I didn't see it, you know, but hey, Julia follows 2040 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 2: me on Twitter, so there's always that right at the 2041 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:15,320 Speaker 2: end of the day. 2042 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 3: Have you slid into the DMS yet? No? 2043 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,479 Speaker 2: No, Look, I'm happily, very happily married. Man, Thank you 2044 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,200 Speaker 2: very much. Speaking of the Paul family, Luke, what a 2045 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:29,639 Speaker 2: weekend for them. In Riod, Saudi Arabia. It was WWE 2046 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,679 Speaker 2: crown Jewel and Love him or Hate him apparently Logan 2047 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:36,559 Speaker 2: Paul's really freaking good at this thing. Against Roman Reigns 2048 01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 2: for the ww Championship. He took out a selfie and 2049 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,000 Speaker 2: then leaped from the top rope. 2050 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. I gotta tell you I don't watch pro wrestling 2051 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,680 Speaker 3: and I'm not about to start. But everyone I know 2052 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:52,320 Speaker 3: who does watch this rubbish tells me that Logan Paul 2053 01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,040 Speaker 3: is very good at it. And I got to tell 2054 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 3: you this well done. This is well done. You got. 2055 01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you can shit on pro wrestling if you like, 2056 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,479 Speaker 3: if you're like me, but that is very well done. Uh. 2057 01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 2: Logan would go on to hit this frog splash off 2058 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,800 Speaker 2: the top rope here against Roman. We've got footage, and Luke, 2059 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,599 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, as a former pro wrestling fan 2060 01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:13,639 Speaker 2: and journalist, that's about as good as it gets right there, 2061 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:14,719 Speaker 2: Damn right. 2062 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,599 Speaker 3: Jesus, dude, fucking I gotta say this. Oh, Logan Paul's 2063 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,320 Speaker 3: pretty athletic, huh he is. 2064 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,760 Speaker 2: But Luke, there, you do get a receipt if you 2065 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,760 Speaker 2: if you, if you play in this game, that that aggressively. 2066 01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 2: Logan Paul diagnosed afterwards with a torn meniscus, a torn 2067 01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 2: ACL and a damaged MCL. So, uh, he's going to 2068 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,200 Speaker 2: be out a while. But Luke Logan had his moment, 2069 01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:42,160 Speaker 2: But so did Jake Paul, who ran interference against the 2070 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,639 Speaker 2: USOS during that main event to break it up. Here's 2071 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:46,440 Speaker 2: the footage. 2072 01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no Magusta, no Magusta. 2073 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,720 Speaker 2: Now he's got to work on his working punch, as 2074 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,000 Speaker 2: they call it, Luke. Not realistic here right. 2075 01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,519 Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's pro wrestling, bro not much of it. 2076 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,439 Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying is some people thought that punch 2077 01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,960 Speaker 2: on Silva was fake. That was real. This is fake, Luke, 2078 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,080 Speaker 2: this is this is fake right here. Okay, he's got 2079 01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:06,000 Speaker 2: to work on that a little more. 2080 01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta think just fake. 2081 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,320 Speaker 2: It's just you're gonna lay that in. You're gonna lay 2082 01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:11,599 Speaker 2: that ship in a little bit. You know. 2083 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,960 Speaker 3: It's like if you're thirteen, I get watching this, But 2084 01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,000 Speaker 3: for everyone else, like, what are you doing? 2085 01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:16,920 Speaker 2: Well? 2086 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:17,200 Speaker 3: Luke? 2087 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,679 Speaker 2: Backstage in riodd Reel did recognize Reel for a moment. 2088 01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 2: What do you think these two talked about? 2089 01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:36,839 Speaker 3: Oh, brock lesnar in Saudi Arabia. Wow, you know, probably 2090 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,400 Speaker 3: not how much they love Nancy Pelosi. I'm gonna guess that, 2091 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:40,080 Speaker 3: you know. 2092 01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:43,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, there you go, there you go. Uh, Luke. 2093 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,200 Speaker 2: We often read manscaped dads that give you advice on 2094 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,080 Speaker 2: how to deal with your filthy disgusting genitals. How about 2095 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:56,719 Speaker 2: some shower advice from Sean Strickland. Sean is the most 2096 01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 2: American thing you can do. Weird showering with your AKA, Luke, 2097 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 2: have you It's not effing weird at all. It's the 2098 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,439 Speaker 2: most American thing you can do. 2099 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:16,800 Speaker 3: How is showering with a Russian rifle American? 2100 01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Good point, good point. 2101 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,960 Speaker 3: Also, AK forty seven is an interesting weapon. People don't 2102 01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,200 Speaker 3: realize this, Like when I was in the military, way 2103 01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:28,679 Speaker 3: that we used them sixteen A two and the AK 2104 01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,040 Speaker 3: is better because you can put like in certain ways anyway, 2105 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:32,479 Speaker 3: because you can put dirt all in that bitch and 2106 01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,720 Speaker 3: it still fires. It is so fucking inaccurate. It is 2107 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:40,920 Speaker 3: a very inaccurate weapon relatively speaking, anyway. Can't take any dirt, 2108 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,599 Speaker 3: can't take any dirt, But it's a little better for 2109 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,000 Speaker 3: anything past three hundred yards. 2110 01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,840 Speaker 2: You know what's more accurate than that? Me picking Till 2111 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:59,120 Speaker 2: versus Woodley, Bevaal versus Canelo Francis versus Wrestling, Monroe versus Wrestling. Yeah, Luke, 2112 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 2: remember that scene in Half Bake where where John what's 2113 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:03,559 Speaker 2: his name? 2114 01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:03,720 Speaker 4: Was? 2115 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,320 Speaker 2: Like, you ever see Cen of a woman? You ever 2116 01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,320 Speaker 2: watch Cen of a woman on weed. Hey, Luke, you 2117 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,240 Speaker 2: ever get front row tickets to a concert before? 2118 01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:11,920 Speaker 3: One time? 2119 01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,280 Speaker 2: You ever get you ever get front row tickets to 2120 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,479 Speaker 2: a concert on weed? Wow? Look at that? Yeah, that's 2121 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:18,280 Speaker 2: great right there? 2122 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,200 Speaker 3: She healed by Benny Hen. What happened there? Oh? 2123 01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:26,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey, that healed holy Field's heart. Luke, okay, please 2124 01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:27,160 Speaker 2: all right. 2125 01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,000 Speaker 3: My favorite was when Benny Hen would be healing people 2126 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,559 Speaker 3: and then he couldn't heal enough of them, like whoever 2127 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 3: would be in attendance, because he'd be like tens of 2128 01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,880 Speaker 3: thousands of people. So that motherfucker would take off his 2129 01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,920 Speaker 3: jacket and then start whipping people. And as he would 2130 01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,080 Speaker 3: whip them in the face with his fucking sport coat, 2131 01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,160 Speaker 3: he'd be healing them. I'm gonna start doing that to everyone. 2132 01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:46,880 Speaker 3: When I walk around on fiber. He just starts to 2133 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,920 Speaker 3: fucking slap people in the face of my jacket. I'm 2134 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:49,800 Speaker 3: healing you, healing. 2135 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,960 Speaker 2: I mean to be fair, Luke, I've seen it. I 2136 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,400 Speaker 2: believe in healing, but I don't know if I believe 2137 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,000 Speaker 2: in that Benny Hen though, at the end of the day, 2138 01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 2: that guy was not the most reliable and a lot 2139 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:04,240 Speaker 2: of those categories. Luke Brian Ortega does incredible things behind 2140 01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:08,320 Speaker 2: the scenes that we don't get to see. Here's one 2141 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:09,719 Speaker 2: of them. Luke, check this out. 2142 01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,439 Speaker 3: What the fuck are you? 2143 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,639 Speaker 2: That flying triangle from T City. 2144 01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:19,120 Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's cool. 2145 01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:20,439 Speaker 2: Yep. 2146 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,360 Speaker 3: That looks a little pro wrestling, pro wrestling e but 2147 01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,599 Speaker 3: it's it's fucking cool. Boy, could could could Henner wind 2148 01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:28,360 Speaker 3: up on that punch? 2149 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:28,639 Speaker 2: More? 2150 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:31,759 Speaker 3: Look at look at the punch. Just don't pay attention 2151 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,280 Speaker 3: to Brian. Just look at the punch. I mean, look 2152 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,200 Speaker 3: at you telegraphed it, my guy, you telegraphed it. 2153 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like Jake Paul against the USOS. Indeed, all right, 2154 01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:42,479 Speaker 2: Darwin Award Winner of the week. Let's let's go to 2155 01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:43,800 Speaker 2: Middle America here. 2156 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:44,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2157 01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you ever see mouth fireworks before? 2158 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:54,840 Speaker 3: Oh? 2159 01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:56,680 Speaker 2: I think he lived though, I think he lived, so 2160 01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:57,519 Speaker 2: shout out to him. 2161 01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:01,880 Speaker 3: That's that is awesome. Just towards this Zero's stupid ass face. Yeah, 2162 01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,760 Speaker 3: I watch you roll around the act when agony is 2163 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:05,120 Speaker 3: some more fuckoh. 2164 01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,120 Speaker 2: Uh MMA fighters in the wild time, Luke, this is something. 2165 01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:09,880 Speaker 2: I mean, what if they are just like one of us. 2166 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,040 Speaker 2: Here's Robbie Lawler warming up. Are you impressed? 2167 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:15,320 Speaker 4: Damn? 2168 01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:16,360 Speaker 3: Pretty impressed? 2169 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:21,120 Speaker 2: Pretty impressed, hugely impressed. Is this like a doorf on 2170 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,840 Speaker 2: golf thing where he's really standing behind that table and you're. 2171 01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:25,160 Speaker 3: Not gonna get mad at me for saying this. It 2172 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,760 Speaker 3: is impressive, Oh, Luke, could you do it? No? I couldnot. No, 2173 01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,040 Speaker 3: I could not even get very close. But I don't 2174 01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,240 Speaker 3: think that's as impressive because you look at his knees. 2175 01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,080 Speaker 3: That means his feet are pointed up BC. When you 2176 01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,720 Speaker 3: get the real split is when the insides of their 2177 01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 3: feet touched the ground. 2178 01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,800 Speaker 2: Those the you know, like Phil Sims all over again. 2179 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,880 Speaker 2: A sixty year old man's doing like one hundred push 2180 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,960 Speaker 2: ups and looks like, yeah, but those aren't real pull up. 2181 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 3: No, he was doing pull ups and he was strong. 2182 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,200 Speaker 3: But if you don't go and lock out, it doesn't 2183 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:51,960 Speaker 3: I don't give a shit what anybody says. It doesn't count. 2184 01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,640 Speaker 3: It's zero. It's easier if you don't achieve lockout to 2185 01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,400 Speaker 3: go and do it like it's just by definition easier. 2186 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,960 Speaker 2: Well, look, I caught a world record of ats on 2187 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:06,240 Speaker 2: Twitter yesterday because one half of the world's most dangerous 2188 01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:11,240 Speaker 2: female duo posted a picture with the hashtag Connecticut Antonina's 2189 01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:12,920 Speaker 2: in my state, Luke where is this? 2190 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,479 Speaker 3: Uh, I'm surprised. We're down by the river and I 2191 01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:18,439 Speaker 3: don't see vans. 2192 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,800 Speaker 2: All right, we'll just leave this and keep going. But 2193 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:28,439 Speaker 2: welcome Antonina. You're welcome. You know you're welcome anytime here. Okay, 2194 01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,400 Speaker 2: let's go over to your Joel or Merrow. We always 2195 01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:33,439 Speaker 2: knew he was a freaking nature, but here's him doing 2196 01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:38,400 Speaker 2: hammer throws with hammers, luke. Hashtag holy hammer down man. 2197 01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,559 Speaker 3: My man's grip strength is probably next. You think this 2198 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,280 Speaker 3: dude's ever had trouble opening a fucking pickle jar in 2199 01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:48,920 Speaker 3: his life? You know what I'm saying. He could just 2200 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,160 Speaker 3: pop that off with a single. They used to say, 2201 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,120 Speaker 3: by the way, I think this is true. Again, it 2202 01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 3: probably isn't, Like who the fuck knows, But at least 2203 01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,519 Speaker 3: someone told me that George Washington was strong enough that 2204 01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,680 Speaker 3: he could crack a walnut in his hand. You ever 2205 01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:00,000 Speaker 3: heard that? 2206 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, then he chopped down a tree, Luke, because he 2207 01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 2: didn't he could never lie to his dad. 2208 01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they told him lots of myths about 2209 01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:11,599 Speaker 3: the founding fathers, but here's no myth. Old fucking look 2210 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:15,000 Speaker 3: at look at this guy. This guy is nearing fifty 2211 01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,760 Speaker 3: and he's out here working out like he's training for 2212 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:18,520 Speaker 3: the Purge. 2213 01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hammer of the Month candidate, just for this scene 2214 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:26,760 Speaker 2: right here, Uel Romero. But this isn't the greatest feet 2215 01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,000 Speaker 2: of strength of the week. Let's go over to former 2216 01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,599 Speaker 2: straweight champion Jung Way Lee, who will have a chance 2217 01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:37,840 Speaker 2: this Saturday to regain her title against Carla Esparza. Luke, 2218 01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,479 Speaker 2: that's Francis and Gano and that's with ease. 2219 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,519 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it's not a huge range of motion, 2220 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,760 Speaker 3: but she is clearly strong as fucking shit. There's no 2221 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:48,400 Speaker 3: denying that. 2222 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:53,440 Speaker 2: Don't forget mystick. Dean Thomas, who predicted Lamosh by knockout, 2223 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,479 Speaker 2: also said he would that she would take Carla's head off. 2224 01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:01,559 Speaker 3: Luke. Yeah, yeah, he thinks that there's basically no way 2225 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,439 Speaker 3: as bar as a wins. I tend to think that 2226 01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:06,599 Speaker 3: he's probably right, but you know, can't get too confident 2227 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:06,960 Speaker 3: in this game. 2228 01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,280 Speaker 2: Were you upset at that YouTuber's comment that Dean is 2229 01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:14,080 Speaker 2: the first Thomas member to watch or join the show 2230 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:16,400 Speaker 2: in your history. I thought that was way out. 2231 01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:17,959 Speaker 3: Of bounds, Luke, say again. 2232 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,720 Speaker 2: They commented that, you know, it was great to see Dean. 2233 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,479 Speaker 2: It's the first time for Luke that a member of 2234 01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,720 Speaker 2: the Thomas have you know, watched or decided to join 2235 01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:28,600 Speaker 2: this show. You know, there's a big breakthrough moment for you. 2236 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,559 Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you got to find your family members where 2237 01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:31,799 Speaker 3: you can, you know what I'm saying. 2238 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,320 Speaker 2: Right, All right, hey Luke? How about this hero you know, 2239 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,760 Speaker 2: you know they say no good deed goes unpunished. How 2240 01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:44,839 Speaker 2: about this heroism from this inline skater to avoid this child? Right? Oh, 2241 01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:52,440 Speaker 2: there goes my hero. Oh watch him as he goes. Yeah, wow, Okay. 2242 01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:58,439 Speaker 3: That is fucking great. Yeah that is just you know what, like, 2243 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,639 Speaker 3: did we really need this guy to procreate? Probably not right, 2244 01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,960 Speaker 3: Probably lose out on the cure for cancer because of this. 2245 01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:04,720 Speaker 3: I don't think we did. 2246 01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 4: No. 2247 01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:07,719 Speaker 2: No, hey, I don't know if you've been paying attention, 2248 01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,600 Speaker 2: but big week for Dildo is Luke. Let's go to 2249 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,640 Speaker 2: this elementary school. This poor janitor had a heck of 2250 01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:21,519 Speaker 2: a time. Right, look at missus Robinson there from third 2251 01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:22,200 Speaker 2: grade point out. 2252 01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,320 Speaker 3: So here's obviously what happened. Some kid in an elementary 2253 01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 3: school is way too fucking smart and funny for his 2254 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:31,080 Speaker 3: own good, and he put a giant fucking who is 2255 01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:34,080 Speaker 3: that the dong from the horse of Aaron Pico. I 2256 01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:38,280 Speaker 3: don't know, but it certainly looks familiar. And uh and 2257 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:42,160 Speaker 3: now this fucking janitor or teacher has the unenviable job to, 2258 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:46,280 Speaker 3: you know, to play pinata with this fucking dong, and 2259 01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,360 Speaker 3: the other teachers like, don't record this, this is this 2260 01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,720 Speaker 3: is unfair. No, this is hilarious, shouts of that kid. 2261 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:52,320 Speaker 3: He should be president of the United States. 2262 01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,360 Speaker 2: Anyone from my town watching, Luke knows full well that 2263 01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,519 Speaker 2: this is not a bit of my ninth grade rec 2264 01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,240 Speaker 2: basketball team. Todd Sparanzini used to do regularly in the 2265 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:04,920 Speaker 2: elementary school that we practiced in. Take out adult magazines, 2266 01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:08,200 Speaker 2: cut out the most explicit pictures and tape them up 2267 01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,280 Speaker 2: all over the gym in areas that aren't obvious, so 2268 01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,120 Speaker 2: that potentially the kids could run into them, and my 2269 01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,600 Speaker 2: coach did nothing to stop them. Luke, it was anarchy. 2270 01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, your coach sounds like he's probably a horrific person. 2271 01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:23,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would reveal his name though, yeah, big week. Hey, 2272 01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,960 Speaker 2: speaking of dildos, Luke, does this give new meaning to 2273 01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:33,280 Speaker 2: the term shuttlecock? Speaking of long games. 2274 01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:35,960 Speaker 3: People that just have giant dildos all in their house. 2275 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:42,040 Speaker 2: We've got female viewers apparently, hair Luke, this is great content. 2276 01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,360 Speaker 3: Best part is, you know, like, not a single woman 2277 01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:49,240 Speaker 3: set anything like this ever. In it's always the dudes, Luke. 2278 01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,160 Speaker 2: What was that guy, John McCain, what did he want. 2279 01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:54,040 Speaker 3: To call the UFC Human cock Fighting. 2280 01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:59,639 Speaker 2: Well, the folks at Comedy Central have gotten quite literal. 2281 01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:01,080 Speaker 2: The videotape hair. 2282 01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,240 Speaker 3: Float like a butterfly, sting like a penis. That's the 2283 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:06,400 Speaker 3: long and short of it. 2284 01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,599 Speaker 4: I'm Max Riley and I run the Human cock Fighting League. 2285 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,880 Speaker 4: The game is simple, it's the best of five rounds. 2286 01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:14,679 Speaker 4: The fighter with the most hits wins. But the fans 2287 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:15,600 Speaker 4: are really here to see it. 2288 01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:22,120 Speaker 3: Is job. Norris Chubb has been the raining. 2289 01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,040 Speaker 4: That's one more tool the trophy guys. He's gotten so 2290 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,519 Speaker 4: good the other fighters didn't have a choice but to 2291 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:30,040 Speaker 4: play dirty. 2292 01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:30,840 Speaker 3: He did it all the way. 2293 01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,840 Speaker 4: Cock Fighting isn't just some kind of pissy contest. It's 2294 01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,000 Speaker 4: an acceptance of one's full humanity, exposing our most private 2295 01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,880 Speaker 4: parts and enduring excruciating pain. Most men are insecure about 2296 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,400 Speaker 4: the size of their schlog, but here at h CFL 2297 01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,800 Speaker 4: we celebrate all shapes and sizes. So we created four 2298 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:53,639 Speaker 4: different weight classes knob cock, doom and children. 2299 01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:54,639 Speaker 3: No matter what. 2300 01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:56,920 Speaker 4: Size you are, if you want to battle with the pros, 2301 01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:00,400 Speaker 4: you gotta trade like a pro practice how you play. 2302 01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,280 Speaker 4: But a good training stage is it goes to ways 2303 01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:08,600 Speaker 4: without proper recovery. Oh no, relations every fighter has to 2304 01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,000 Speaker 4: weigh in before every fighter. At the end of the day, 2305 01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:15,439 Speaker 4: we need everything. Human cock fighting isn't just a sport. 2306 01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,479 Speaker 4: It's a community, a community of people who are cut 2307 01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:19,520 Speaker 4: above the rest. 2308 01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,200 Speaker 3: Okay, uh tell me, tell me, tell me you wouldn't 2309 01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,240 Speaker 3: have more? You would if Dana had a press conference 2310 01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,679 Speaker 3: this Friday instead of the slap League for this, you'd 2311 01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:31,479 Speaker 3: go to this right? 2312 01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:35,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah? If he doesn't bring in Rocko to just 2313 01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,680 Speaker 2: test out the product, Luke, speak softly, but carry a 2314 01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 2: big stick. Indeed, this is. 2315 01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,400 Speaker 3: Where's where's Lexi and Paler when you need him? 2316 01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? All right? Uh hey, Luke, what a creative way 2317 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:49,759 Speaker 2: to combine Halloween with you know, your everyday backyard squirrel feeder? 2318 01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:53,040 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this scream inspired invention? 2319 01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:59,120 Speaker 3: Someone put it in the dong? Oh, I mean that 2320 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,400 Speaker 3: seems a bit much to do to wild animals. 2321 01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:05,840 Speaker 2: But do you like scary movies? Okay? 2322 01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:10,240 Speaker 3: You know I've never seen scream beginning to end Scream one. 2323 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,120 Speaker 3: I've never seen any of the screams in totality, and 2324 01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:14,080 Speaker 3: certainly not even all right. 2325 01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:16,400 Speaker 2: I stand by the first two. I think you got 2326 01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:20,040 Speaker 2: a little wonky after that, but I know what you 2327 01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:21,880 Speaker 2: did last summer is better with hotter chicks. 2328 01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,160 Speaker 3: Come on, everyone knows that I've not seen that either. 2329 01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:27,839 Speaker 2: I saw them in theater four times. Four times? 2330 01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,040 Speaker 3: Wait, how many times? How many times? Sober? Or with 2331 01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:31,720 Speaker 3: your pants on? 2332 01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,439 Speaker 2: Wow? Hey, Luke, we have gone to the future. We 2333 01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:38,120 Speaker 2: got together some jigawats and we found footage of you 2334 01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:39,880 Speaker 2: thirty years from now. 2335 01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:47,679 Speaker 3: Thirty years how about thirty minutes? 2336 01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2337 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,479 Speaker 3: This is this is my entire Instagram feed. 2338 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:58,080 Speaker 2: All right, Luke, I know you're not gonna like this, 2339 01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,519 Speaker 2: but we're gonna close with this. It's time for an 2340 01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:04,680 Speaker 2: intervention about your filthy asque white trash vape have it. 2341 01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,880 Speaker 2: This is what Luke Thomas thinks. He looks like vaping. 2342 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:15,040 Speaker 3: Let's see, I wish I had that much hair. 2343 01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:20,280 Speaker 2: This guy's an artist. 2344 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,920 Speaker 3: Look at him. Oh my lord, look at this man 2345 01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:29,080 Speaker 3: by Hammer of the month right here. Oh my lord. 2346 01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,559 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, well done, this well he's still 2347 01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:38,559 Speaker 2: going potential hammer of the month here this guy. But Luke, 2348 01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:44,240 Speaker 2: this is what Luke Thomas actually looks like vaping on air. 2349 01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:54,439 Speaker 3: My lord, she is hideous. 2350 01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,040 Speaker 2: Look come on, it's about you know, it's about time. 2351 01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:04,559 Speaker 2: It's about time you uh you clean this up. 2352 01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,080 Speaker 3: Come on, wait, let me see if I let me see, 2353 01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:07,200 Speaker 3: let me see, I can do that right here you go. 2354 01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:21,040 Speaker 2: Do you have the ability to do those next level 2355 01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:22,519 Speaker 2: tricks like that first gentleman? 2356 01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,240 Speaker 3: God, I wish I would. If I had tricks with 2357 01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,800 Speaker 3: the vape, I would do it. But no, I'm just 2358 01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,519 Speaker 3: shuffling nicotine into my lungs like a fucking idiot. 2359 01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:35,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been good. It's perfect. It's 2360 01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,320 Speaker 2: created good content for our show from the likes of 2361 01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 2: JP and others. 2362 01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,280 Speaker 3: But it has it's been good for the memes. It's 2363 01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:41,880 Speaker 3: been good for the memes. I'll give them that. 2364 01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:45,800 Speaker 2: Uh at gmail dot com excuse me, Luca is the 2365 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:49,000 Speaker 2: email address for Wednesday's fan subs. Friday's dead wrong. So 2366 01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,200 Speaker 2: thank you, folks for for you know, thank you. 2367 01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,800 Speaker 3: There you go. I want to remind everyone I'm gonna 2368 01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 3: be in Jerseys starting tomorrow. BC will be there starting Wednesday. 2369 01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:02,000 Speaker 3: So Wednesday and Friday show in studio. We have a 2370 01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,439 Speaker 3: bunch of other stuff planned for in studio, and I 2371 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:06,240 Speaker 3: don't want to give it all away yet. It hasn't happened, 2372 01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,519 Speaker 3: but we got some stuff planned for you guys. And 2373 01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,439 Speaker 3: then of course Saturday, I believe we're gonna do a 2374 01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:13,479 Speaker 3: companion for the main card at USC two eighty one, 2375 01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:17,559 Speaker 3: as well as directly after that a post fight show. 2376 01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:21,599 Speaker 3: So we have an absolute shitload of content coming your 2377 01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,080 Speaker 3: way starting as early as tomorrow. Go ahead be see. 2378 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it ain't gonna be Kyle Bassis. It'll 2379 01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,120 Speaker 2: be Jersey City style. But look, I want to reiterate, 2380 01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:31,680 Speaker 2: ain't nobody gonna cover this fight week better than you 2381 01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,160 Speaker 2: and I will. We got special guests, we got special 2382 01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:37,479 Speaker 2: friends stopping by. It is going to be a full on, 2383 01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,200 Speaker 2: in your face UFC two to eighty one. We're not 2384 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,839 Speaker 2: competing with a Canelo fight, We're not competing with anything. 2385 01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,799 Speaker 2: If something happens, we'll be on there instantly to react. 2386 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,759 Speaker 2: You're gonna love our bonuses. Remember this as always YouTube 2387 01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,720 Speaker 2: dot Com, Slash Morning Combat, and at All Luke. We 2388 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,120 Speaker 2: had d Thomas on Friday. You can rewatch that if 2389 01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:57,240 Speaker 2: you missed it, to sort of set the stage with 2390 01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,240 Speaker 2: some storylines. But today, this afternoon, your boy BC catching 2391 01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,320 Speaker 2: up with Carla Esparza ahead of her co main event 2392 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:07,840 Speaker 2: title opportunity. She's gonna look back on in all that 2393 01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,800 Speaker 2: Rose Second fight, whether that kind of robbed her of 2394 01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:13,720 Speaker 2: her big moment and all that interesting chat there. But 2395 01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,280 Speaker 2: the names are only going to escalate from there as 2396 01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:19,680 Speaker 2: well the content. So uh, the Jake, Paul's behind us. 2397 01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:22,400 Speaker 2: There ain't no Canelo here. This is about two to 2398 01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:29,040 Speaker 2: eighty one, Pa, Data, Izzy, Carla, the other people on 2399 01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:37,800 Speaker 2: the card, Poorier, Chandler. There's probably somebody else fighting on 2400 01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:38,400 Speaker 2: there that we like. 2401 01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,400 Speaker 3: To Yeah, Hooker, Ben Hooker's on the card. 2402 01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank you Edgar. 2403 01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:45,000 Speaker 3: That Brad Ridell Hanato Mokano fight is fucking fire. 2404 01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:47,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's gonna be that dude, that Holy Hammer. Whoever 2405 01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,680 Speaker 2: comes out of that one, believe me on that one. 2406 01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:53,760 Speaker 3: Okay, no doubt yet, got it? And reminder for your vote, 2407 01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,600 Speaker 3: Hammer of the Month, Holy Hammer, please vote. Remember to 2408 01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,080 Speaker 3: follow our friends at money Line. They do take care 2409 01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:00,520 Speaker 3: of the show, so let's make sure we take care 2410 01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,080 Speaker 3: of them. Give them a follow on Twitter or on 2411 01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,480 Speaker 3: Instagram at money Lion, Inc. Use the hashtag let them 2412 01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,720 Speaker 3: know who you thought. My answer for this week BC 2413 01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,160 Speaker 3: would be Paul Hughes. I'm so impressed by that young man. 2414 01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:15,520 Speaker 3: He looked tremendous, but honestly, Andre Durell looked incredible. There's 2415 01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:17,720 Speaker 3: plenty of other ones you could have picked. Who did 2416 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,160 Speaker 3: you think? Who did you think out there was the best? 2417 01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,000 Speaker 3: Let the folks at money Lion know. 2418 01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,400 Speaker 2: If you thought it was a guy in human cock fighting, 2419 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,520 Speaker 2: he had a pretty big hammer. Uh you know, go 2420 01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,400 Speaker 2: for that, but uh, you know, check that out, enjoy that. Well. 2421 01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,080 Speaker 2: So when's this Dana Sleptic press conference? Is that Friday? 2422 01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,240 Speaker 3: Friday? Yeah? Friday. I mean I'm just going to utterly 2423 01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:36,760 Speaker 3: ignore it. 2424 01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:38,600 Speaker 2: We should do an instant reaction to it. 2425 01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,560 Speaker 3: Luke, Oh really we should. We should give we should 2426 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:42,840 Speaker 3: give that some more publicity. 2427 01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:44,880 Speaker 2: Really yeah, and it'd just be a just you know, 2428 01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,040 Speaker 2: we'll just we'll roast it. We'll just roast it. 2429 01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,200 Speaker 3: We shall see, all right. Thank you to everyone who 2430 01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:53,200 Speaker 3: watched today. BC gave you all the places to go 2431 01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:56,040 Speaker 3: and find us for more information. Carla A. Spar's interview 2432 01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:57,880 Speaker 3: I think should be out later today. I've got a 2433 01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,160 Speaker 3: fun one set up for you guys tomorrow, so in 2434 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,320 Speaker 3: the lookout for that, and then from Wednesday on it's 2435 01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,960 Speaker 3: off to the races. So we're excited about UFC two 2436 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,600 Speaker 3: eighty one fight week. We're excited for you guys to 2437 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,480 Speaker 3: join us, and we can't wait to deliver for you 2438 01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,920 Speaker 3: BC before we go. Are you feeling okay for this 2439 01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,680 Speaker 3: fight week? You were a little bit down for the 2440 01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,640 Speaker 3: count for the Jake Paul fight week. You made it through. 2441 01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:16,920 Speaker 3: You certainly pushed like a pro. How are you feeling 2442 01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:18,240 Speaker 3: for two eighty one, bro? It's a bit of a 2443 01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,040 Speaker 3: home game. I'm hoping that the belly aching isn't too 2444 01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:22,440 Speaker 3: much into the store for us. 2445 01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,360 Speaker 2: Look, anyone who's in our game and they've traveled to 2446 01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,760 Speaker 2: the West Coast for a big fight, you know you 2447 01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:31,879 Speaker 2: get there Wednesday or earlier. We got there what Tuesday evening. 2448 01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,320 Speaker 2: It'll take a bite out of you. I was traveling 2449 01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:38,120 Speaker 2: the week before for Showbox. But Luke, no excuse. I'm back, 2450 01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm rested, I'm healthy. We are going to be in 2451 01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:44,480 Speaker 2: Jersey Cite all week ready to bang. Okay, let's do 2452 01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,240 Speaker 2: this this week. Let's give the people what they really 2453 01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:51,280 Speaker 2: come here for. Which is everything that has to do 2454 01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:54,400 Speaker 2: with mixed martial arts at the highest level. Okay, yeah, 2455 01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,640 Speaker 2: there's a one card this week. There's probably a boxing 2456 01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,080 Speaker 2: fight that I'll be watching, but Luke, it's about two 2457 01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,640 Speaker 2: eighty one this week. Okay. You always say, why can't 2458 01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,880 Speaker 2: these guys just preview and review every single fight on 2459 01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:07,320 Speaker 2: the card? You want that, You're about to get it. 2460 01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:10,480 Speaker 3: Okay, there you have it all right, Thank you guys 2461 01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:12,800 Speaker 3: so much for watching. We appreciate it. We'll talk to 2462 01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:16,880 Speaker 3: you very soon. So for Malka for showtime for Brian Campbell, 2463 01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas as well as CBS Sports. We're out 2464 01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:22,840 Speaker 3: for today. We'll see you soon and until then, may 2465 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,520 Speaker 3: all of your gains be loyal.