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Speaker 1: Hey, hurdlers, You're listening to episode sixty four of Hurdle,

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Speaker 1: a podcast that talks to everyone from entrepreneurs to top

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Speaker 1: CEOs and athletes about how they've gotten through tough times

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Speaker 1: hurdles of sorts by leaning into wellness. My name's Emily Abodi.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a good week. I'm not gonna lie. I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited right now. I'm gonna be heading out to

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles this coming Friday for a full week, gonna

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Speaker 1: be running around recording a lot of hurdles. So I've

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Speaker 1: put this on on social media already, but if you

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Speaker 1: or someone you know feel as though I should know

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Speaker 1: someone that's out there that should be on Hurdle, make

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Speaker 1: sure to hit me up.

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Speaker 2: You know how to find me.

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Speaker 1: It's at Emily Abodi at Hurdle Podcasts and over email

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Speaker 1: at Emily at Hurdle dot us LA. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to be back anyway, Before I get into today's episode

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Speaker 1: with my guest Don Saladino, he is a trainer to

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Speaker 1: me tell you, when Don walked into the studio, it

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Speaker 1: felt as though I had known him forever.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's just the fact that both of us

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Speaker 1: But he's just one of those people that is super

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Speaker 1: friendly and he's also really good at what he does,

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Speaker 1: which is no wonder why big name celebrity's like Hugh

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Speaker 1: Jackman and Bryan Reynolds and Scarlett Johansson go to him

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Speaker 1: when they want to be instellar shape for big roles.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, he owns a gym downtown in New

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Speaker 1: York City called Drive four nine to five, and he's

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Speaker 1: also currently on the cover of a men's health magazine

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Speaker 1: special edition. But things haven't always been absolutely crazy, big

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Speaker 1: name celebrities and high traffic for salad, you know. In

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Speaker 1: today's episode, we chat about how he got his start

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Speaker 1: talk about the tons of hurdle moments he's face. We

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Speaker 1: We talk about him and his family losing their apartment

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Speaker 2: We also talk about the intense attention to detail of

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Speaker 1: Pays attention to his diet, what it's like to have

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Speaker 1: a number one best selling app in the app store,

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Speaker 1: and he also tells me the crazy story of how

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Speaker 1: he got one of his good friends quote unquote upper abs.

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Speaker 2: In less than a month. He's something special.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna love his energy and I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot of great takeaways from our conversations today.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to take a quick moment to shout out

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Speaker 1: my listener Becca for sending me the sweetest, sweetest message

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to always.

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Speaker 1: Shoot me a note and I like to share these

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Speaker 1: on the pod every now and again.

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Speaker 2: She says to me.

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Speaker 1: A friend recommended Hurdle to me a couple of months back,

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Speaker 1: and now, whenever I feel down or unmotivated, I listen

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Speaker 1: to one of your episodes.

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Speaker 2: I love them. They have such a positive message behind

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Speaker 2: each and everyone.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for being a positive voice in my life.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, these are the kind of things that

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Speaker 1: keep me going. And that's all for now. With that,

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Speaker 2: Today. I'm sitting down with Don Saladino. Don, how would

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that fun when you get you choose your own adventure?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny people call me celebrity trainer, which

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Speaker 3: But you know, I'm a I'm a business owner, I'm

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Speaker 3: It doesn't sound will Avenge been twenty years. We'll eventually

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's terrible. I think it just means

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Speaker 3: I have. And it's funny, like a lot of people

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Speaker 3: you know, I appreciate it, but I've been I've been

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Speaker 3: And I still don't consider myself an expert. I consider

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Speaker 3: So I've been humbled by this industry.

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Speaker 2: Where are you from done Long Island, New York. I

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Speaker 3: Do I have that? Do I have that Long Island act?

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Speaker 3: You have a little bit well there, SouthShore, north Shore,

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Speaker 3: I think some people say that they can't tell, but

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Speaker 3: and you could definitely tell he's from Long Island.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my family is from Long Island.

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Speaker 1: Grandmother lives in River Hut now present has a house

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Speaker 1: in Hampton Bays, but started it out in plain View.

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Speaker 3: One of my closest friends lives in plain View, and

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Speaker 3: Yes? So I live in a town called Lloyd Harbor,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to break it up.

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Speaker 1: So let's remind it back a little bit and talk

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Speaker 2: Were you always into fitness? Were you a guy that

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Speaker 3: It's funny. I mean, I don't even remember men's health

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Speaker 3: Emily Blunt's event on the eleventh and just kind of

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Speaker 3: Because it was something that was really difficult for me

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Speaker 3: You know, I went through a tough thing in second grade.

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Speaker 3: I was coming home, couldn't really find my place, couldn't

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Speaker 3: being like, Mom, I'm good at something. She's like, She's like,

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Speaker 3: And I remember watching The Incredible Hulk. I remember seeing

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Speaker 3: it really started for me out of I say it

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Speaker 2: I usually hold off on these kind of questions until

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Speaker 2: So I'm just a little curious about what you are

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Speaker 3: Was yeah, it was like weighing his meals and not

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Speaker 3: But it's not a job for me. It's something. Nutrition

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Speaker 3: and I do like eating pizza or pasta, chicken, fingers

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Speaker 3: But I'd say ninety to ninety five percent of my year,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm you know, it's organic and I'm packing my meals.

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Speaker 3: And for the simple fact do I have to know?

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Speaker 3: I want to it's it's it's part of my life

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Speaker 2: So give me a snippet.

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Speaker 3: Snippet, So breakfast was six ounces of grass fed meat,

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Speaker 3: Well that was the first meal. There's really no breakfast, lunch,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why even said breakfast, I ever say breakfast,

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Speaker 3: but I guess, yeah, it was my first it was

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Speaker 3: the day, which should total roughly a specific macro nutrient profile.

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Speaker 3: So before, like I was on the cover of Muscle

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Speaker 3: and Fitness last year, and I think a week before

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Speaker 3: So I never get any prep time, even like I'm

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Speaker 3: I think July third this year, and my prep time

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Speaker 3: So you know, when I when I do TV, it

435
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,560
Speaker 3: helps drive to my business when I'm sitting there having

436
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,360
Speaker 3: staff meetings. I love that my digital platform, I love

437
00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,199
Speaker 3: that it all kind of feeds the same pot So

438
00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,960
Speaker 3: being entrepreneurial, getting out there and just you know, kind

439
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,080
Speaker 3: of that grind is something that I really enjoy. And yeah,

440
00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,440
Speaker 3: I've aspirations. There's definitely and exit strategy in mind, which

441
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,160
Speaker 3: has changed a lot over the last fifteen years because

442
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,600
Speaker 3: of all these opportunities. But I almost have I don't

443
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,840
Speaker 3: even want to say it's a plan, a play, and

444
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 3: b it's like, all right, I got one thing going

445
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,560
Speaker 3: on right now. If that hits great and if not,

446
00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to continue on this path. And that's fantastic.

447
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,600
Speaker 3: And that's kind of how I have to deal with

448
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,960
Speaker 3: things because there's so many there's so much opportunity and

449
00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,200
Speaker 3: so many things that pop up at me every week.

450
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,280
Speaker 3: Fortunately I'm very lucky.

451
00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, business opportunity right now that you're working on that

452
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,120
Speaker 1: makes you really amped up.

453
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Speaker 3: Not going into detail, but I've had my club for

454
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,879
Speaker 3: fourteen years and there's a client of mine that we

455
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,200
Speaker 3: have been discussing right sizing my facility size because it's

456
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 3: pretty it's a pretty big side. We got about fifteen thousands.

457
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,600
Speaker 3: I have fifteen thousand square feet. So I think repositioning

458
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,200
Speaker 3: that to where it's a very repeatable model and leveraging

459
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 3: some of the relationships I'm in bed with and tying

460
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,359
Speaker 3: in a lot of my digital platform to that and

461
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,399
Speaker 3: just very simple. Like I think that's a big problem

462
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 3: also is you start having these aspirations of all right,

463
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,159
Speaker 3: we're going to do this and it's going to go

464
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 3: to this and that and that and that. You start

465
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,120
Speaker 3: like laying out this whole wishless and you can't even

466
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 3: get the first thing right. So right now in the

467
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 3: back and I wish I could talk about it. I can't.

468
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,719
Speaker 3: But you know, it's focusing on this one thing and

469
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,440
Speaker 3: when that gets nailed, you know, adding this thing in.

470
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,359
Speaker 3: But you got to be you got to keep things simple.

471
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,640
Speaker 3: We just confused things too much.

472
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Speaker 2: Totally. Okay, So you are driving through New York, you start,

473
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 2: you sign on with the Equinox, you go through Equinox'

474
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 2: training program. Is that process like everything that you would

475
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 2: hoped it to be.

476
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was. I think out of the gate

477
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 3: it was fantastic because I met about forty five coaches

478
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 3: and they were all really I mean it's amazing. I

479
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 3: don't mean I'm not Equinox, but it's completely like it's

480
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 3: it's changed. It really has. I mean, when you become

481
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,959
Speaker 3: a corporation that's that big. Yeah, you can't. I mean

482
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 3: we're sitting on the floor with like you know, uh

483
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 3: PhDs and x NFL football players and you know, people

484
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 3: who are just like young and enthusiastic and like passionate

485
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 3: about all this stuff, and you know, everyone was learning

486
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 3: from each other. Was fun and it was a great

487
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 3: lesson for me because I think at like month six,

488
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 3: the Erico family sold and they got uh they went corporate,

489
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 3: and like that next day, I remember a GM coming

490
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 3: in and just looking at all of us. It was

491
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 3: forty five of us on the floor, and they just went,

492
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 3: she went, You're all expendable. And I was like, wow,

493
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 3: it was one of those scary things that you hear.

494
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 3: It was one of the best lessons I've ever learned.

495
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 3: It was a terrible way to deliver it, but she

496
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: was right. It was like, you know, don't think you're

497
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 3: you know what, don't stink and and you know, you're

498
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 3: all expendable. Not really the way I would have addressed

499
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 3: a staff that I'm just meeting, but I think at

500
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Speaker 3: that point I saw the mom and pop mentality go

501
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 3: corporate and I and I really gained a quick understanding.

502
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Speaker 3: So I was there for about a year, broke off,

503
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 3: started my own training business, kind of lived there for

504
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 3: about four to five years, going home to home in

505
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 3: the city, training about forty to fifty maybe even more,

506
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 3: one hour sessions a week. Young kid, you know, making

507
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: pretty good money at twenty two, twenty three years old,

508
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 3: traveling when I wanted living on my own. It was

509
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Speaker 3: It was living in the city on my own for

510
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: five years. It was fun. Yeah, and then got financing

511
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 3: open Drive four ninety five and so it was a

512
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Speaker 3: golf fitness training facility and my brother and I went

513
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Speaker 3: in on that project and that's kind of when how

514
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Speaker 3: that all started.

515
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Speaker 1: So give me a little bit more intuble on a

516
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: where the name Drive comes from and then b I mean,

517
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: so that was your first brick.

518
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: And mortar, that was my first spot. Okay, because we

519
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Speaker 2: haven't we actually haven't even touched on it yet, right,

520
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 2: we haven't even mentioned mar jumping around too much. No, no, no,

521
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: we're doing that.

522
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Speaker 3: Drive. So Drive was us for about a year as

523
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: where construction completely confused. So it was a golf fitness

524
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Speaker 3: training facility. So we went after the Titles Performance Institute

525
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 3: in Oceanside, California, and we saw this golf training facility

526
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: which is fantastic like outdoor driving range, gym, you know,

527
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: workouts curated for the golf swing, kinematic sequencing, all this

528
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 3: cool stuff.

529
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Speaker 2: This is the first time you're mentioning golf. Were you

530
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Speaker 2: into golf?

531
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Speaker 3: So my brother was a pro got it, so he

532
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 3: was a pro. I've always been a golfer. I still played.

533
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Speaker 3: I'm playing tomorrow night. So you know, I've always been into.

534
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: Golf, but people play golf in night.

535
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in a league on Thursday nights. It's a

536
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: nine whole league. It's like six to seven thirty.

537
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Speaker 2: I guess that's been light enough. Still, that's interesting, Okay,

538
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 2: it's fantastic.

539
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 3: So we were like, all right, well, I think finally

540
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 3: it just came down to, you know, in life and fitness,

541
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 3: you have drive, you're driving a golf ball. It was

542
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 3: kind of like synonymous to each other. They kind of

543
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: like weaved in nicely and we're like, let's call Drive

544
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Speaker 3: and the addresses four ninety five Broadway, so let's just

545
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: Drive four ninety five, and then when we open Drive

546
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: four fourth three, it'll become Drive four four three or

547
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 3: Drive three eighty or whatever the address actually is. So

548
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 3: that's what ended up happening. And then when we opened

549
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: our next location, it was Drive four four three, which

550
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: was definitely a step down. It didn't have any golf.

551
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 3: It was mainly kind of the semi private one to

552
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: four coaching model, and it was a nice place, but

553
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: it was just it was just a step down it wasn't.

554
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't as grand, It wasn't it just wasn't as good.

555
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: And I think we realized after a couple of years

556
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 3: when we got into a good spot, it just wasn't

557
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: really worth our time. And it was that was that

558
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 3: was a great lesson because that lesson there is know

559
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 3: what you're great at, like just this is your model.

560
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: And sometimes when you find a model that actually works

561
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 3: and you get too creative and you start branching off

562
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: on one do things, I've seen plenty of people crash

563
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 3: and burn there, and that's that's a tragedy. It's like, yeah,

564
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: you've got one concept that works, don't try and be everything.

565
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: You're lucky if you have one, one great idea in life.

566
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: You know.

567
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Speaker 1: I also feel like it's important to like own your

568
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: weaknesses just as much as you own your strengths. When

569
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Speaker 1: you realize and I've used this analogy before on the podcast,

570
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 1: but and during my days, I write and I edit content,

571
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: and I would say that I'm a better writer than

572
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: I am an editor, and that's okay. And it took me,

573
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 1: you know, when I had that realization of what I

574
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: liked to do more than the other. It was like,

575
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: should I feel concerned that I don't feel as though

576
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: I am as good of an editor?

577
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: Not really, Like I'm just owning that I like to

578
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: write more.

579
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 3: I think it's that's an incredible quality of you. And

580
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 3: probably my best quality is one knowing what I'm not

581
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 3: good at. Two, relying on people that are better than

582
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 3: me and smarter than me in other areas, and just

583
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: establishing a team. You know, I believe in teams. It's

584
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't when you see one person that's

585
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: trying to be the jack of all traits. That's normally

586
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: when you dilute everything and you're just it's not as powerful,

587
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: it's not as impactful. So I built my whole career

588
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: on that, and I built my whole career on pivots

589
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: and recognizing when something's not working and having like I

590
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: had to change my whole business model in two thousand

591
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: and seven, in two thousand and eight, like it just

592
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't working anymore. And yeah, we were losing a lot.

593
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: We were losing kind of anywhere from seventy to one

594
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 3: hundred grand a month. We started losing at one point

595
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 3: because my corporate events went away. You know, I had

596
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 3: to refinance my apartment. My brother had a refinance's apartment.

597
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: Like we were just literally were pissing money into this thing.

598
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: And but the entire time, you believe, you believe, you believe,

599
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: and you know, there was some dark. There was some dark.

600
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: There were some dark years. I can't even say dark nights.

601
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: It was like darky. I remember going to breaking up

602
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: some nights at two three in the morning and just

603
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: being out of breath, being like you know, but my workouts,

604
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: my fitness, my nutrition, That's what got me through everything,

605
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: because going to the bar after and drinking my sorrows away.

606
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: I worked the other way. This is my fitness, My

607
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 3: training is part of my survival. So going in I

608
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 3: could be stressed. I need that one hour, one hour,

609
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes a day. If I don't have that, then

610
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: I'm in.

611
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Speaker 2: A bad spot for sure.

612
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Speaker 1: So talk to me a little bit about So you

613
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: had open drive the first location, and then you opened

614
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Speaker 1: the second location.

615
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: Well in between that, I started a digital media company

616
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: called Driven and we came up with this idea right

617
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: or around when when when apps started to kind of explode.

618
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: You know, this this whole app world, probably eight nine

619
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: years ago started to really take off, so I leave

620
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: on my contacts and we decided to open I'm sorry,

621
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: Curate apps with a couple of professional athletes. One of

622
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: them Dwyane Wade, the other one Adrian Peterson, and the

623
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: third one was Ernielle. So we created like a house

624
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: app for our gym, and then we went to the

625
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: agencies and we pitched this concept and you know, I

626
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: had to going out to raise about a million three

627
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: and you know, we had to take that money, and

628
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 3: we decided to curate these apps, developed these apps, and

629
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: I mean out of the gate, it was like it

630
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 3: was it was explosive, like just to be a part

631
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: of something like that where you know, you're you're looking

632
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: at the back end and you're seeing like your app

633
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: go from like fifteen in the world to thirty in

634
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: the world, to twenty in the world to ten to five,

635
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: and then you're at number one for a few weeks

636
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: and cash is rolling in. You're like, oh my god,

637
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: like this is this is incredible, and then out of nowhere.

638
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: It's like the best way to describe it I like

639
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: to talk about it is like it's like hitting the

640
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: peak at that roller coaster. Yeah, you know, when you're

641
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: riding up it. You're riding up, but it's going slow,

642
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: and then out of nowhere you just kind of cross

643
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: that top and then that's when you just take off.

644
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

645
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: That at that point it was just this screaming roller

646
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: coaster that was like you're holding on, You're out of control.

647
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: You're like, holy shit, this thing is going to hell?

648
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: How do we keep this thing up? And I learned

649
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: more about the digital business in that you know, six

650
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Speaker 3: to twelve month span whatever it was got. I mean again,

651
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: looking back on it, you say, well, you wish it worked,

652
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: but another part of me is like, wow, I'm not

653
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 3: happy it didn't. My investors wouldn't want to hear that.

654
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: But there were so many good takeaways from that, and

655
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: there are so many things that I learned now to

656
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: do what I'm doing now.

657
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about that all the time on Hurdle.

658
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: It's like identifying the things that could be viewed as failures,

659
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: but they're really just things that make us stronger.

660
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: Correct you know?

661
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you you have this whole digital project and

662
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: then you have the second location, So what give me

663
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: a timeline here?

664
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: Oh god, It's like everything seems like between two thousand

665
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: and nine and two, two thousand.

666
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: And fifteen, fifteen, Okay, right now that's.

667
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: With like four four three, that's what my other location

668
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: and my digital platform and the entire time I had

669
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: drive I still have drivet on Vty five now, right,

670
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 3: And you got all these other garden of life, like

671
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 3: I went and I started a sport line product with them,

672
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: which did really really well, but then they got off

673
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: by Nestle and you know, we all got canned. So

674
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: you know, but again that was even to this day,

675
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: I'm grateful for the opportunity they gave me. And I

676
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: made a lot of money off that deal, and it

677
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: was it was, it was just great. So you know,

678
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: things work out, things don't work out. It's like, you know,

679
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 3: it all kind of works out in my in my opinion,

680
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: like we're all still here. It's I'm in a better

681
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 3: situation now in twenty nineteen than I've ever been in

682
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: my life. And I don't want to go back and

683
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: do anything over. I'm not even like, oh wow, if

684
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: I can go do it again, Like I don't even

685
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: say that, like no, no, no, I'm glad that happened because

686
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: then I wouldn't be doing this or wouldn't that put

687
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: me in this situation? Or you know, even getting on

688
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: a social media I remember when when I first got

689
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 3: onto it, I was like, I don't want to get

690
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: onto it, and a friend of mine convinced me and I

691
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: got on it, and I was like, Okay, this makes sense,

692
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: you know. So everything happens very reason.

693
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: Everything happens very reason. So you mentioned a business pivot.

694
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: When does Drive go from the original model integrating golf

695
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: to not so much golf?

696
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 3: Oh seven o eight right around when Lehman Brothers and

697
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: bear Stearns tent. So what happened was when we open.

698
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: I come from a catering background, so I grew up

699
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: working in catering halls. It's my family's business.

700
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: So I really very long island A yet very long

701
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: island me.

702
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: So you know, but it was it was a great

703
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: business because you know, I worked everywhere from maintenance to prefabing,

704
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: to waitering, to lifeguarding to me on and on and

705
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: on and on bartending. We were doing a lot of

706
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: corporate events, and we were hosting events for like Barkley's

707
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: and Lehman Brothers and all these different companies and Goldman

708
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: Sachs and their spending was very loose at the time,

709
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: great like they would just coming and be like, oh,

710
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: this is a great night, We're going to book the event.

711
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: And we all know, you know, years years ago, you

712
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 3: didn't have to go through all these like you know,

713
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: governing bodies at these firms, and they would just book

714
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: events client entertaining, and I don't know, I remember one

715
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: day it was probably one of the best decisions I

716
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: remember making. I remember seeing the process change. I remember

717
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: we had to go through like six hurdles, hurdles. We

718
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: had to go through six hurdles to be able to

719
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: book this one event, and they're spending dropped, and I

720
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: was like, all right, this is a nightmare, Like this

721
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: is going to be really difficult. Our margins just diminished,

722
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: like drastically, and I think this portion of our business

723
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: is going to disappear. And it did. So we just

724
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: we said, listen, we originally got in here to focus

725
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: on performance. It was golf performance in the beginning, so

726
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: let's just fitness performance. And right around that same time,

727
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: this was two thousand and nine, twenty ten, I got

728
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: a client by the name of Hugh Jackman and he

729
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: came with a buddy of his and who was this

730
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: trainer at the time and decided to asked if they

731
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: can work out at the gym, and I said, sure,

732
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: you're You know at the time, I was like, you're

733
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: Hugh Jackman, come on in?

734
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: And he does anyone not say you're who Jackman? Come

735
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: on in? Like he wants to go to Starbucks? Are

736
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: people going to make him wait?

737
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: In life? You know what? He said? Any and he

738
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: would wait online. That's it. That's what type of person

739
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: he is. But you know, I definitely owe a big

740
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: portion of my career to him. I saw him for

741
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: the first time over I think December January. I was

742
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 3: at a group We all had dinner together at this restaurant.

743
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: It was a client's birthday and we all kind of

744
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: sat together and we were bsing and it was cool

745
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: to kind of hear what was going on in his life.

746
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: But I owe a lot of it to him because

747
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: I focused on him for about nine months. We just trained.

748
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: There was really no social media going on. And I

749
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: even remember one time He's like, you know, how can

750
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: I help? How can I help? And I'm like, you're helping,

751
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: Like you're like you're in here, You're you're improving, Like

752
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: let's just keep focusing on that. And I was never

753
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: really into exposing the client. I think they really love that.

754
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: And out of nowhere, it just became like this domino effect.

755
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: It's like every week I was getting another phone call,

756
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: like I have scrolled jo hands and I'm like, oh,

757
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 3: I've heard of you. How are you nice to meet you?

758
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: And how can I help you? And she's like, I

759
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: want to train. And then she's like, you know, my

760
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: boyfriend is Ryan Reynolds, like you should meet him. I

761
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: was like great, and then out of nowhere, it just

762
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: it was it was it was incredible. It's just this

763
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: domino effector every week, even to this day, every week

764
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm getting a call from someone a

765
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: professional athlete, like I want to come in, I want

766
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: to train, I want to work, and you know, and

767
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: now you just can't do it all on your own.

768
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: You've got to start trusting and relying on a team,

769
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 3: which sometimes can burn you. You know, when you're putting

770
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: people of that caliber in front of coaches. I mean,

771
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of the time, I've been really fortunate

772
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: and lucky, but you know, about one percent of the time,

773
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: someone's gonna try and steal someone or stabby in the back,

774
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: or not be grateful or do something that's hurtful, but

775
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: you just got to cough it up and just say

776
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: that's part of you know, being in this position and

777
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: sitting I always say, sitting in the chair, you know,

778
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: just yeah, kind of owning that warning that job.

779
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,840
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783
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784
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785
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786
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787
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788
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789
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,440
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790
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792
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793
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804
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to it. Okay, So you start training

805
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: bigger name celebrities, some athletes, et cetera.

806
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: And obviously with that, the.

807
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: Golf mentality goes away and you're just focusing on more

808
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: functional training.

809
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: It's still there, Yeah, the the golf is still there.

810
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: We're just not showcasing it, which became a little confusing

811
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: at a certain point. You would have actors come in

812
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: and be like, wait a second, you finish your golf,

813
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, the golf's upstairs. So finally we

814
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: just kind of it's just it's two different businesses. We

815
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: kind of sell it as it's like one one's upstairs,

816
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: the other's downstairs. It's tied into one club, and now

817
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: we're almost that capacity, so we don't really have to

818
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: worry so much about members It's it's more about just,

819
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: you know, continuing to supply the membership with what they

820
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: need and continuing to add value and and and and

821
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: do right for them and optimize every every category. But yeah,

822
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: I mean per performance, that was something I we always

823
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: focused on. I mean, training a golfer is really no

824
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: different than training a football player. That's what most people,

825
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean the beginning, we wanted to sell that differently.

826
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: But anyone who's telling you that it's it's different, they're

827
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: a fraud. You're you're you're creating a better athlete. You've

828
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: got to you know what, John over here, I'm just

829
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: giving an example here. If I have John and Jim

830
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: standing next to each other, their bodies move differently, I'm

831
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: going to train them differently if they both play the

832
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: sport of baseball. So it's really just creating a better

833
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: athlete for that individual.

834
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: You mentioned sleepless nights and waking up and being scared

835
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: and being scared about money. So that was all during

836
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: the financial crash. Yeah, so everything happens then and after.

837
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was it was a few

838
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: years of like band aids. Yeah, just putting like like

839
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: it's I look at it this way, like God forbid.

840
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: You know, you hear stories about people getting shot multiple

841
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: gun wounds. You're going to go in and you're going

842
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: to address the biggest gun wound in the beginning, you know,

843
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: and then you're once that's taken care of, you've got

844
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: to start addressing other ones. And then you know, then

845
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: an affection happens in that main gun wound and you

846
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: got to go back to it. That's kind of how

847
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: my business was for years. And then we just and

848
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: then we just nailed it. Then we just figured it out.

849
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: Do you remember like anything super specific that in retrospect

850
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: was kind of comical about trying to patch up one

851
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: of these quote unquote gun wounds.

852
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean some of them were just out of

853
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: our control. It was the you know, least that we signed.

854
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: It was the contractor that we brought in the beginning

855
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: to do the construction on the place. I mean, you know,

856
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: to this air conditioning problems the other day, it cost

857
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: me like eight grand, like one day out of page.

858
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: It's just to get one thing fixed that happens in

859
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: that space probably every you know, four to five months.

860
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 3: So we've spent like hundreds of thousands of dollars over

861
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: the years on the air conditioning. And you're just like,

862
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: it is what it is. You know, there's there's a

863
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: flood right now going on in Levi's and you know,

864
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: the building's like, it's your fault, and I'm We're like,

865
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: it's not our fault, and you're just and you're sitting

866
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: there and you laugh at it because there's just nothing

867
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: you can do that. You can't go home and cry.

868
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: You just you open the floor up, you look at

869
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: the pipes. You're like, no, look that's not us, and

870
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: you move on from it. And it's just you can't

871
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: see what's I don't want to say. It's frustrating for me.

872
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: But what I don't really understand is you have a

873
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: lot of these people, see so called entrepreneurs that want

874
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: to get involved and they want to be in business

875
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: and they want their own thing. But the second something happens,

876
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: they want to run for the hills, and I'm like, no,

877
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: you've got to go into this stuff with a miscellaneous category,

878
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: like there's a reasonabhy on spreadsheets. You have things blow up,

879
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: their conditioners blow up, Floods happen, fires happen, it's just

880
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 3: life in general. Equipment breaks down, and if you don't

881
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: have the stomach for that, well, I mean it's maybe

882
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: a bad way to put it, but you know, God

883
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: created chiefs and Indians. Maybe it was just not chief

884
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, seriously, I mean it sounds tough, but you

885
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: got to be able to you got to be able

886
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: to take your punches in this business.

887
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: Totally. Okay. So soon after the financial crisis, then we

888
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: get Hurricane Sandy, which I know you had mentioned to

889
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: me was a little bit tough on your family.

890
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I was living downtown. I bought an apartment

891
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: at eighty eight Grantach and we came out to Long

892
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 3: Island and we're hanging out out there for the weekend

893
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: where my parents house, and we hear the hurricanes coming in.

894
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: So your first response is like, go back to the

895
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 3: city because the city is the safest spot. Like you're

896
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: just you know, you're in the city. There's you know,

897
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: there's not power lines and there's no trees and We're like,

898
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: you know, my parents, let's hang with them, Let's make

899
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: sure they are right. You know, I don't know how

900
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 3: bad it's going to happen. And we're the house is safe,

901
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: et cetera. And we get a phone call the next

902
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 3: day and it's like, your your building has been shut down,

903
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: it's been evacuated. There's this was what was in October November.

904
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: We're not allowed back in until March April. So suddenly

905
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, well, what are we going to do,

906
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: Like we're going to move back into the city. And

907
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 3: my wife and I just said, let's moving with my parents.

908
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: And they had a little like barn guest house in

909
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: the back fortunately, and we just moved in there and

910
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: within a week the kids were going to elementary school

911
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: out there out in Long Island and then and they

912
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: loved it. It was like it was exciting, it was fun.

913
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: They were probably they're eleven and twelve now, it was

914
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: what four and five, five and six, I forget, but yeah,

915
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: So we so we held the apartment for a year.

916
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: You couldn't sell it there. There was the elevators were

917
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: and even working the deep the transformers were were downstairs

918
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 3: in the basement, and the basement was dirty, feet under underwater.

919
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: What about all your stuff?

920
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: We're fine because our building, our apartment was on the

921
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: sixth floor. So my wife's machine. She literally came into

922
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: the city one day and like the dark and literally

923
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 3: like moved things out with like she got two movers

924
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: and they couldn't even use elevators or carrying beds down

925
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: the stairs. And I was I was at work and

926
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: I couldn't even leave, and she's like, I gotta don'

927
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: worry about it, like you handle what you get a handle,

928
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: and I'll handle this. And she literally moved the whole

929
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: family as she moved everything out like a day, and

930
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: that was it. That was our that was our move

931
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 3: out of the city. I mean, if that didn't happen,

932
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: we were thinking about moving out of the city. I

933
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: just don't know if we would have. You're you're so comfortable, Yeah,

934
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: you know, it's everything so easy. My commute every day

935
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: was seven minutes.

936
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: So oh you know, I I've never had a seven

937
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: minute commute myself. Wouldn't that be pretty sweet?

938
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: Pretty nice?

939
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: Okay, So you move out to Long Island and things

940
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: are doing really great with drive and it seems like

941
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: you know we're on the ups here, Yeah.

942
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: Starting to pick up. I mean it was you know,

943
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't dislike, oh, we just decided to transition and

944
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: there it was like you know at that point, you know,

945
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: you took out loans, your borrowed money. Now it's like,

946
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: all right, the bleeding stopping and you got to pay

947
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: this stuff down. You got to pay this debt down.

948
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: And that took several years for that to happen. And

949
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: you know, along the way, a lot a lot of

950
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: bumps and bruises. But you know, like I said, that's

951
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: part of sitting in that seat. You gotta be you

952
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: gotta expect to take that.

953
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: Was it weird when you started to be referred to

954
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: as a celebrity trainer? I mean, you're talking that more

955
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: and more of these A listers are coming into your space,

956
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: So I feel like it's almost inevitable that you're going

957
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: to get a little bit of what I love to

958
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: affectionately call imposter syndrome.

959
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: You know it was. I was on the Muslim Fitness

960
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: podcast the other day with a friend of mine named

961
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: Mark Fisher, you owns Mark Fisher Fitness, and he paid

962
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: me the ultimate coup compliment He's like, Don was the

963
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: one to take celebrity training and actually make it legitimate.

964
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: And that's not saying that all the celebrity trainers out

965
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: there are bad, but what he was trying to say

966
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: was there there has been a lot of bad there,

967
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: and there's been a lot of coaches that just it's

968
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: about giving someone an ass kicking and you know, not

969
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: taking into consideration what's going on hormonally in their body

970
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: or how their body works, actually paying attention. It's just

971
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: been more abaud effort, and I think that's a big

972
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: reason why there's been so many people becoming unsuccessful. Every

973
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: single person has to take the approach differently, you know,

974
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: like Ryan Reynolds is going to approach things a lot

975
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 3: differently than say the woman sitting over there having coffee.

976
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: It's just whether it's better or whether it's worse. So

977
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: it was an ultimate compliment for me to get that.

978
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: But in the beginning, yeah, celebrity trainer, it was you know,

979
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: it's not something you really want to be to refer

980
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: to as. But you know, just after a while you

981
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: just stop caring and just like listen, that's how they're

982
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: gonna refer to you. That's what they're gonna refer to you,

983
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: and you know, if it's what brings you know, recognition

984
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: to the brand, and if it's what gets people excited

985
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: and enables you to help more people on scale, then

986
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: you just do it. It's just a title.

987
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: During all of this, you mentioned that you yourself when

988
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: times get tough, you really do lean into your own training,

989
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: your own fitness, your own mindfulness and health to get

990
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: through some of this tough stuff. How are you making

991
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: time for all of this in combination with running your business,

992
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: in combination with caring for your family, And I mean,

993
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: obviously there's just a lot of stuff going on.

994
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna sound incredibly selfish, but I got to clean

995
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: my side of the street, So I have to become

996
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: a little selfish with this stuff. And almost I'm not

997
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: saying putting working out in front of my kids. But

998
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: you know, my wife and I have an understanding. She

999
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: knows when I have to get a work out, I

1000
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: get to work out. It like there's there's there's no like, oh,

1001
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 3: you can't get a work I need. You know, it's

1002
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: this is what I need to survive. If I in

1003
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: the past, I've taken less clients to just get my

1004
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: work out in. I'm never someone who's saying, oh, I

1005
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: have ten people today, in which I won't even do.

1006
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: I train two to three people a day now max.

1007
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: It's not even a lot. But no matter what, the

1008
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: person who handles my schedule, Kim, she knows I need

1009
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: roughly seventy five minutes just in my schedule blocked off

1010
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: for me. And if I can't get that, you got

1011
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: to find a place in the data do that. If

1012
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: it's five in the morning, if it's great, you know,

1013
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: I normally have to get it done early. Worst case scenario,

1014
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: it's late in the day. I very rarely like to

1015
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: train then. But on certain circumstances, when you have specific

1016
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: opportunities that get thrown at you, you got to you

1017
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: gotta jump on it. So yeah, no, I don't make

1018
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: excuses with that stuff. That's like, I mean, that's literally

1019
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: me like waking up, brushing my teeth and taking a

1020
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: shower every day. It's just part of my day.

1021
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people what they struggle

1022
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: with is just this idea of making it as important

1023
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: as the other things that they deem important in their life. Right,

1024
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: and especially when you're starting out, it's like you said,

1025
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: it's second nature, next to brushing my teeth and rolling

1026
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: out of bed. Getting to the place where it is

1027
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: second nature for so many it just feels like the

1028
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: biggest turnal right.

1029
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: I think also, I think the perception out there of

1030
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: what needs to be done is just it's just awful.

1031
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: It's i mean, one of my favorite all time movies.

1032
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: I think Set's like one of the worst examples ever.

1033
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: And that's Rocky. You know. It's like, all right, well,

1034
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: it's this is training montage and this guy like climbing

1035
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: a mountain and heeds like literally falling down and he's dying.

1036
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, you don't need that. You just

1037
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: need to be more consistent. Like I like going hard.

1038
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: I like training hard. I like trying to be optimal.

1039
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: I like looking at heart rate variability and doing all

1040
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: these things that are going to help me become optimal.

1041
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: But most people out there don't need that. It's like,

1042
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 3: all right, get seven an, I I was sleep a night,

1043
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: drink half your body renounces of water, eat good quality foods,

1044
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: break a sweat every day for ten to twenty minutes,

1045
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: and you're going to be fine. Like it's not, it's

1046
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: not a huge formula. Yet we always think it's like, oh,

1047
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: p ninety x sixteen to ninety minutes a day, six

1048
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: days a week. I'm like that you take anyone's sententary

1049
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: and you put them in that environment, and yeah, something's

1050
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: going to happen. But do they keep up with it afterwards?

1051
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 3: That's my question.

1052
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: I think what happens for a lot of people is

1053
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: that they go into this decision fatigue.

1054
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: Right.

1055
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: It's like you're making all of these decisions and you're

1056
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: feeling like, Wow, I'm doing so well, and you're seeing

1057
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: the benefits. But after a while, after making constant good

1058
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: decision after good decision after good decision, you're like.

1059
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: Wow, I just need to stop.

1060
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: I need a break.

1061
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: I need a break.

1062
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, But that's that's part of the whole. That's the

1063
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: problem with resolutions, like New Year's resolutions. Everyone's like, oh,

1064
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go like two weeks without having a drink,

1065
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, okay, if you're coming to me

1066
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 3: and you're like, I have to be on the cover

1067
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: of this magazine by this time, or I'm in this

1068
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: movie and there's a movie and there's a scene with

1069
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 3: me with my shirt off and I'm on a horse,

1070
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: and you're like, all right, this.

1071
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: Is a little dramatic, but everyone has this.

1072
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: Val if you're one of these, if you're one of

1073
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: these individuals, and yeah, if you're a physic competitor and

1074
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: you're getting on the stage, yes you have to take

1075
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: a much different approach. But the majority of the people

1076
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 3: out there, I mean most of the people you're around,

1077
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: they want to look at themselves negan and feel good

1078
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: about themselves. They want to have optimal energy levels, and

1079
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: they want to be strong. And strong means like being

1080
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 3: able to move and wake up and feeling empowered, and

1081
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: those are really the goals and to get there you

1082
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: don't need a lot.

1083
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 2: Can we talk about energy levels?

1084
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting thing that I actually we

1085
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: don't talk about enough, is that there are other goals

1086
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: that people have when they're working out. And I would

1087
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: say for me, energy is definitely important, but also lately

1088
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: I've been trying to figure out different ways to fine

1089
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: tune getting better sleep.

1090
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: But let's start with energy levels. So what would you

1091
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: suggest for.

1092
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: Someone who's just saying that maybe often in the middle

1093
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: of the day they're feeling lethargic, or they have a

1094
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: hard time getting out of bed in the morning.

1095
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: Listen, this all comes back to rest and stimulants, and

1096
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: I mean even diving into digestion. I mean I would

1097
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: start first with rest. How much sleep are you getting

1098
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: and what quality of sleep is that. If you're someone

1099
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: getting five hours of sleep and you start, you know,

1100
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: overdoing the coffee early in the day, then you're going

1101
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: to start getting into some sort of a call what

1102
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: you want hormonal fatigue. You know, I've no problem with stimulants,

1103
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: granted you're getting enough rest. Which is almost like a

1104
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: catch twenty two because people are like, well I drink

1105
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: coffee because I'm tired. I'm like, well, that's bad. Like

1106
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: I drink coffee because it gives me somewhat of a

1107
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: thermal effect, and I like going to the workout, I

1108
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: have a little bit more awareness, a little bit more energy. Great,

1109
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: But once I start getting to the point where I

1110
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 3: become so dependent on caffeine that I need it, it's

1111
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 3: time to kill it. It's time to take a break.

1112
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I think one, it's looking at sleep

1113
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: and sleep quality. Start looking at things in the evening, like,

1114
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: you know, are you on your tablet too long? What

1115
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: type of light are you exposed to? How late in

1116
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: the day are you drinking caffeine? Are you drinking in

1117
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: past one o'clock? Are you maybe eating too late at

1118
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 3: night where it's affecting your sleep? But I know someone

1119
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: like me could eat late and I can eat before

1120
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: bed and it doesn't affect my sleep. So it really

1121
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: is like when people are like, oh I don't need

1122
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 3: past six, I'm like, well, what time you go to bed?

1123
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: Like how do you do? Maybe that's hurting you? Like

1124
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: that could be hurting you. So I think a lot

1125
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: of times we take this one size fits all approach

1126
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: and it really is individualistic. But the first few things

1127
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: I would focus on is just you know, improving sleep quality,

1128
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: sleep and sleep quality and looking at caffeine. You know,

1129
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: when you start overdoing that one area and neglecting those

1130
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: other two areas, it's like it's coming. It's like right

1131
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: left hooks coming from you in both angles. It's just

1132
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: it's a really vicious effect.

1133
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned something else before that I think is also critical,

1134
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: which is half of your body weight and ounces in

1135
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: water every day?

1136
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: Is that the golden rule of them?

1137
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? That is Actually that's something that now I'm working

1138
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: with a woman lore some I can mention her name

1139
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: Laura Summers. I met her she was eight hundred and

1140
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: seventy two pounds and she's down to three hundred and

1141
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: seventy five pounds now. So I don't have her drinking

1142
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: half her bodyweight ounces of water because that would be

1143
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: you know, a lot, that would be almost impossible. It's impossible,

1144
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: be that'd be a lot. So what I do is

1145
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: just an improvement. It's just getting her to drink a

1146
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: little bit more monitoring as she waking up late at

1147
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: night to use the bathroom too many times. If it's once,

1148
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: we're okay. So yeah, certainly some really unusual circumstances like

1149
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 3: that you have to coach accordingly. But all in all, yeah,

1150
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: fifty fifty ounces have your body Rightno ounces?

1151
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean?

1152
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: And overall, I feel like in the summer, hydration can

1153
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: be something that a lot of people don't put as

1154
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: much stress on as they should. And then I personally

1155
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: get a lot of questions from listeners about working out

1156
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 1: and drinking water.

1157
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: So I know there is.

1158
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: No necessary golden rule of thumb for what you should

1159
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: be doing, but I think people get confused about when

1160
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: they should be reaching toward like a hydration beverage versus

1161
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: reaching toward regular water, and how long do I need

1162
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: to be working out when I choose one or the other.

1163
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: It was so funny, it was for years I hated

1164
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: hydration beverages. I would I would do something. I would

1165
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: add Celtic sea salt or pink Camiley and salt in

1166
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: my water, and I think I thought it was one

1167
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 3: of the best ways to rehydrate because of the trace minerals.

1168
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: And then I found this product call Halo that I

1169
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: started using, which is probably the only thing that I

1170
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: ever drink besides water and maybe the occasional alcohol. And

1171
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: that's been that's been a nice change for me because

1172
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm getting lemon I'm getting which is great for digestion.

1173
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 3: I'm getting the salt, I'm getting magnesium which helped gets

1174
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 3: the body pair sympathetic and recover. And it's got electrolytes

1175
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: and potassium and all the stuff my body needs with

1176
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 3: like less than two grams of sugar.

1177
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: So and that's just a regular drink.

1178
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a regular It's just a regular drink.

1179
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: I think they just came to market several months ago,

1180
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: and it's something that I do carry in my club now,

1181
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 3: But otherwise that what else when I drink like, yeah,

1182
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: my occasional beers or tequila whatever it really is. But

1183
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 3: all in all, it's water.

1184
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: And Halo got it, Okay, So when it comes to

1185
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: that rehydration period post workard, it's obviously going to be

1186
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: very different if you're doing like a thirty minute hit

1187
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: workout versus if you're about to do what I'm going

1188
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: to do and like going on long training runs on

1189
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: the weekend.

1190
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm always I'm always rehydrating, so I

1191
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 3: would never, like the goal for me is never to

1192
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: get dehydrated where I'd need to rehide, right, So I'm

1193
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: always like throughout that process, I'm always trying to feed

1194
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: my body what it needs. And you know, I've gotten

1195
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: to a good point where I could tell if I start,

1196
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, I'm if I'm thirsty, then that's like, all right,

1197
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: well it's already a little too late. It's time to

1198
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: dive into it. But you know, you just do the

1199
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: best you can. And I do know even from a

1200
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Halo is probably one of my favorite hangover

1201
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: things too. It's like you drink that before better when

1202
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: you wake up in the morning and then that salt

1203
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 3: does help, that sea salt does help with rehydration. So

1204
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: I think my goal for everyone is just to make

1205
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: sure that you're not putting that water bottle down for like,

1206
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, a half hour or an hour when you're understanding

1207
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: your's activity, because then, yeah, that can really hinder performance

1208
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: and water too. It's like most things. I mean, this

1209
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: is what purifies the body, this is what helps get

1210
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: waist out of the body, and the cleaner the body

1211
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: is and hormonally, the better off we are, the more

1212
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 3: of a fat burning machine our body's going to turn into.

1213
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've been trying to keep my water bottle

1214
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: on my desk as like a reminder.

1215
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: It's sitting in front of it right now in the

1216
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: studio and everyone has it.

1217
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: And now they even make they make like light that

1218
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: can go on your water bottle all that it'll start

1219
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: blinking at you every forty minutes if you haven't had

1220
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: a sip of it.

1221
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: That's really cool, as I'm reaching for my water right

1222
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: right now. But yeah, I mean sometimes people, I mean

1223
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: I have people do this when they sit I have

1224
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: them set timers.

1225
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: A water timer. That's not about there's definitely apps for that.

1226
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: No, a water timer or like like a sitting timer.

1227
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, to get up every once in a while.

1228
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 3: I never want anyone sitting more than like thirty minutes,

1229
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: So I always tell them like every thirty minutes, like

1230
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: how long t I stand for them? Like anything's in improvement? Yeah,

1231
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: if you could like sit for thirty stand for thirty,

1232
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: that would be pretty awesome. But you know, stand for

1233
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: five to ten, move around, like take all your calls

1234
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: with a headset on and stand up and yeah, and

1235
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: don't get out of this position that I'm in right now.

1236
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, so we've talked water, We've talked about now,

1237
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: we've talked sitting and standing. Give me another easy to

1238
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: implement strategy that someone can do on the regular to

1239
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: just like tweak up that health factor, you know a

1240
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: little bit.

1241
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: Digestion is something that's incredibly overlooked when you have I

1242
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: think the best way to put is you hear this

1243
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 3: terminology leaky gut, and when you're consuming non organic foods

1244
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 3: or toxins or alcohol or stress, you start developing. I

1245
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 3: mean the easiest way I like talking about this is

1246
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: almost like slashes on your stomach, lining and then a

1247
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: lot of these talks start secreting in the bloodstream. So

1248
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: the thing that I love implementing in is like a probiotic.

1249
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: So I think before bed or when you're someone on

1250
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 3: an empty stomach. I used to do in the morning,

1251
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 3: but I would have it and then I'm eating within

1252
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: five ten minutes. So I like the probiotic before bed

1253
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: because then you're going hopefully seven to nine hours with

1254
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: that probiotic just working.

1255
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: I was going to say, tell the hurdlers what a

1256
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: probiotic does for you, because this is actually another question

1257
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: I get constantly, and.

1258
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: I went through this breakdown a thousand times with the

1259
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: people with the nutritus over a garden of life. So

1260
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: you have good bacteria in your body and you have

1261
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 3: bad bacteria. And that's why antibiotics are bad because it

1262
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: goes off. Yes, it not only kills the bad bacteria,

1263
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: but killing the good bacteria which your body needs. And

1264
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: what happens is a probiotic now will go your into

1265
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: your stomach and it almost starts acting like pac Man

1266
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: as I'm doing like the pac Man. It starts acting

1267
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 3: as pac Man, and it starts gobbling up the bad

1268
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 3: bacteria and then it starts sticking to your stomach lining,

1269
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 3: it starts healing your stomach lining, which is, you know,

1270
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: we want we want a healthy digestion. We don't want

1271
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: to have a leaky gut. So you can be consuming

1272
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: the most healthy food on the planet, and if you

1273
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: are not, if the bioavailability of that food isn't there,

1274
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: if you're not able to utilize the vitamins, the minerals,

1275
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: the fiber, the protein, the carbohydrates, then you're like in

1276
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: a way, like not utilizing the food you're consuming. So

1277
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 3: that can become a huge problem. So digestion is one

1278
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: of that's probably the easiest way to break it down.

1279
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 3: You know, I think that's something that it's low hanging fruit.

1280
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: It's something that's really easy. And that's also why you

1281
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: really want to focus on an organic diet. When you

1282
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: start consuming fried foods or foods with like partially hydrogenated oils,

1283
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: like this stuff becomes canola oil, it becomes rancid in

1284
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: your stomach lining and in your body, it starts having

1285
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: to work really hard to reject you know, all that

1286
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: bad nutrition. Like take alcohol for instance, when someone's like,

1287
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Speaker 3: do you drink alcohol, and I'm like sure, I drink

1288
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: alcohol once once in a while, Well, what do you drink?

1289
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: Likes wine better than vodka. I'm like, listen, alcohol is alcohol.

1290
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: It's toxic. It's it's it's a toxic element that you're

1291
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: putting into your body when I go drink. I like

1292
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: to drink beer because I don't get his banged up.

1293
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: I start drinking tequilas and we're at like some day

1294
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: party at two pm. Then I'm going to be in

1295
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: a field position by by five pm. I love that.

1296
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: Your example is like if I'm at a day party,

1297
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: I know.

1298
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: But anything better than day There's nothing better than day drinking.

1299
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: And admit this if anyone out there is like no,

1300
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 3: I like drinking at night better than going to like

1301
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: a barbecue.

1302
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: Because you're going to bet at like nine pm.

1303
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: It's amazing, and you're not the best. It's like after

1304
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: one two in the morning, things are getting a little

1305
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: weird and you're.

1306
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: Speaking my language. I'm going to visit my brother this weekend.

1307
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: He just moved to Miami, and he uh, he asked

1308
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: me on Friday if I wanted to go out, and

1309
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: he had already told me he was going to get

1310
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: us bar crawl.

1311
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: I used that I don't really know what this means.

1312
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: Tickets for Saturday, and I was like, oh, that sounds great,

1313
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, so what do you want to do

1314
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: on Friday?

1315
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: I was like, can we just chill on Friday? Like

1316
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't do nights that.

1317
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: No, I'm the same, I'm the same exact way. So

1318
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know where I'm talking about probiotics. Yeah,

1319
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: but you know, so the the alcohol and jumping back

1320
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: to alcohol, alcohol, I'm more concerned with what it's doing

1321
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: to your body hormonally. Someone's not going to get fat

1322
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: by turning around on a Friday and like crushing a

1323
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: pizza and drinking ten beers. You're not going to get

1324
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: fat from doing one day of that. You're gonna get fat.

1325
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna put on body fat from doing that multiple days,

1326
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: weekend and week out, and you're just taking poor care

1327
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: of yourself. But what's going to happen is this when

1328
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: you consume that poor nutrition. Your body right now is saying, WHOAOA,

1329
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 3: we don't we don't need this. There's a food. Food

1330
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 3: is medicine approach. I want food that's like medicine for

1331
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 3: the body. I want food that's going to help heal

1332
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: my hormones. I want to get rid of this now,

1333
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 3: and then you start spending all this energy detoxifying the body.

1334
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 3: That's why these cleanses drive me nuts. Like the best

1335
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 3: way to detox a body see organic nutrition, organic fruits,

1336
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: organic vegetables, organic proteins, organic carbohydrates. You know then that

1337
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: when you get that clean stuff in your body, that's

1338
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 3: the best way to the talks. Not not turning around

1339
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 3: drinking juice, drinking lemon water for the next like five

1340
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: days after going to Las Vegas and you know, being

1341
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 3: in a coma for three days on alcohol and who

1342
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: knows what else. It's like, no, you your body needs nutrition.

1343
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 3: Now you're going to starve your body and you're gonna

1344
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: put your body in a really bad state after it's

1345
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: been deprived for three days. That's why people get sick. So,

1346
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 3: you know, I think the I think the whole outlook

1347
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: on you know, even partying and nutrition and alcohol, it's

1348
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: it's just it's just poor. It's just the wrong approach.

1349
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: Do you remember when you made all of these positive

1350
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: changes in your life and your diet, how that felt

1351
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: for you at the time.

1352
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 3: It was wild. I mean I remember graduating my senior

1353
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: year in high school and just diving into the weaver.

1354
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: I was just I became like I became just a menace.

1355
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: And I was playing in this travel team for the

1356
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: long Al Tigers. We're traveling all over the country, but

1357
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 3: I'm still working a job. We're doing a lot of

1358
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 3: our traveling on the weekends. And I remember it was

1359
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 3: like every day there was something new. Like at the time,

1360
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: I was eating egg whites. I don't eat egg whites anymore,

1361
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: that's another story, but at the time, it's like, oh,

1362
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: I gotta start eat egg whites. I'll start removing the

1363
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: oaks from eggs. And I removed the oaks from eggs

1364
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: to find out, you know, ten years later, that the

1365
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: oaks are actually great. But I remember like going to

1366
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: a pizza place and not eating pizza because I'm like,

1367
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 3: I need my protein and carbs, so I'm eating meatballs

1368
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: and pasta, and then finding out later on like, all right,

1369
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: that's not good. And just like overnight making all these changes.

1370
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 3: So I would say, from the age of seventeen to

1371
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: the age of about twenty one, I really like I

1372
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: locked everything in and then after that it was just

1373
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 3: it was just fine tuning it became more than so

1374
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 3: twenty one is like nineteen ninety nine from yeah, nineteen

1375
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 3: ninety nine. For me, that's when I started paying attention

1376
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 3: to like food quality and organic farming. And I'm reading

1377
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: articles about how like you want to buy from here

1378
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: because they don't use tractors and the wheel actually destroys

1379
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: the stoil rather than the the hoof on the on

1380
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: the horse's foot. You start reading all this stuff and

1381
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 3: you're like, that makes sense, that makes sense. Oh, that's

1382
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 3: really easy to change. It's not a big deal for me.

1383
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 3: I could just buy my food here and that's one

1384
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: check off the box. Or like the deodor and I'm

1385
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 3: using like most of them are most of the healthy

1386
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: stuff's discussing, but this one has aluminum and I like

1387
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 3: this one, so let me just use that. Let me

1388
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: use a water filter in my shower because I'm gonna

1389
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 3: get all the toxins out of that, and let me

1390
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 3: use like a better toothpaste. And you start like then

1391
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: you realize like, oh, well that's disgusting, because then I'm

1392
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: starting to smell that when I go out like weird,

1393
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: just weird things. You just start figuring out and you

1394
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: just start fine tuning, and you try and correct the

1395
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: things in your life that are just really easy to manage. Yeah,

1396
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: and you leave the mistakes up for when you want

1397
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: to just go out with your wife or a husband

1398
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: on a Saturday night and barkrawl for once, like and

1399
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 3: just be a human being and have a good time.

1400
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: And for me, that's what it's about. I'm not one

1401
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: of these people who are saying that for three hundred

1402
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 3: and sixty five days, I'm perfect with all my stuff.

1403
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: I could definitely let my hair down, and I definitely

1404
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: know how to recover from that. And I definitely know

1405
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: what needs to happen and how you can have your

1406
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: cake you need it to, but live by some rules

1407
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: and some laws. And I think if you follow kind

1408
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: of what I'm doing, you can really I think develop

1409
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: the energy, the vitality, the physique that you want, but

1410
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: still not have to give up all those other things

1411
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 3: as well.

1412
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned I have a few follow up questions now.

1413
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: First of all, you don't need egg whites anymore, no,

1414
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: it stopped.

1415
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: Oh my god. When you remove the yolk, you're removing

1416
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: one of the most essential parts of the egg, and

1417
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: that's a lot of the amino acids and for years

1418
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: everyone's been relating cholesterol with a negative, negative negative. I

1419
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: don't want the cholesterol, like my cholesterol is great, And

1420
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of times I think the increase

1421
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: in cholesterol on specific people's diets are coming from other things.

1422
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: And cholesterol has also been shown to really improve hormones

1423
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: in the body. So I think it's really on a

1424
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: case by case basis. But you know, if you're going

1425
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: to have a few eggs in the morning and you're

1426
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: a little freaked out about it, like mix a yokre too,

1427
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: you could throw it in there for flavor, you're still

1428
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: going to get some really good, high quality amino acids.

1429
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: I mean, with like a like a large an extra

1430
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: large brown egg, you're consuming about six grams of protein.

1431
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 3: So when you remove that yoke, you're removing a lot

1432
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: of that protein, a lot of those amino acids that

1433
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: the body needs to rebuild, Like those muscles. When you're training,

1434
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: you're tearing microscopic fibers in those muscles, and how do

1435
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: we repair that. How do we enable someone in a

1436
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: stressful ironment to be able to come back day in

1437
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: and day out. So when you start removing a lot

1438
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: of that nutrition you know, the body is just not benefiting.

1439
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: It's just not it's not becoming optimal, and you're not

1440
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: living the way that you potentially could live.

1441
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: My second follow up note from before would be that

1442
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest hurdles to people making

1443
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: some of the switches that you say are pretty easy,

1444
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: which they are in theory, is ultimately cost Yeah.

1445
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 3: I could have guessed that word. I could have pulled it.

1446
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: You got to ask yourself what do you want in life? Yea?

1447
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: And the same people complaining about costs are the ones

1448
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: you know. You hear these college kids who just graduated

1449
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: and they're going to Brother Jimmy Street nights a week,

1450
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: and they're and they're buying pictures like if you I

1451
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: don't look at you know, an organic apple call and

1452
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: it caused costing X and a non organic apple costing y.

1453
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: I look at the differential. So if you're going to

1454
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: spend a couple extra bucks on buying something organic, all right, man,

1455
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: Like cut back on one night of drinking, which you

1456
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: should be doing anyway, and cut back on one night

1457
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: of partying and you could still be social. But like,

1458
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: don't come and complain if you don't want to I'm

1459
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: all in on. It's like, no, you're not like someone

1460
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: who's all in on. This is going to take a

1461
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: much different approach if you're turning. A woman messaged me

1462
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: the other day and she says, is drinking two bottles

1463
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 3: of wine a week gonna hurt my fitness outcome? And

1464
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, it is if you're looking to improve

1465
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 3: from where you are now, which I don't even know

1466
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: where that is. But if you've been plateauing what you're

1467
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: saying to me you are, and you're having two bottles

1468
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 3: of wine a week, which is eight glasses of one

1469
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: a week, is that going to hurt your fitness improvement?

1470
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 3: The answer is yes, And it was like a very

1471
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: clean answer. And she writes back to me really like

1472
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: she didn't want to hear it. I'm like, don't ask

1473
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: me if you don't want to hear it, right, you know,

1474
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: just like this is yes. It is like you'd be surprised,

1475
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 3: like if you start removing things. When I have a

1476
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: prep and I remove the little alcohol I drink, which

1477
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: might be two to three drinks a week, and I

1478
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: remove that for four weeks, like I've lost seventy pounds before, Right,

1479
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 3: That's how much water you pull into the body. Like

1480
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: that shows a lot on someone walking around with six

1481
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: five six percent body fat all year long. You look

1482
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: substantially different. So for the average show out there that's

1483
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 3: going out there and having drinks three four nights a

1484
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: week and they're having two three cocktails, Yeah, you're affecting

1485
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: your sleep quality. Your energy level is going to crap.

1486
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 3: Your quartersol levels are getting thrown off, your growth throw

1487
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: mone levels, your testops roone levels are all getting thrown

1488
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 3: out of whack. And this will affect the fat burning process,

1489
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: This will affect vitality in general. But not everyone wants that.

1490
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: Like if you should be able to go out and

1491
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 3: have a couple of glasses of wine, you should be

1492
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 3: able to go out and eat what you want once

1493
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: a week. Like, that's the goal here. I don't want

1494
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: people to live like, you know, the way I'm living.

1495
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: I enjoy that. I want people to find what's going

1496
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Speaker 3: to make them happy. That's been what I that's what

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Speaker 3: I do. It's like, all right, what works for you.

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Speaker 3: So one of my actually really really quick because I

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Speaker 3: don't want to keep rambling on, but one of my

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Speaker 3: buddies a few weeks ago comes to me, and he says,

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Speaker 3: I want to see just it was the weirdest thing ever.

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Speaker 3: He takes his shirt off. He's in his forty he's

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Speaker 3: like forty five, and he looks he looks pretty good.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I just want to see the top two apps,

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Speaker 3: Like the top two apps? Where the hell did you

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Speaker 3: get that from? Like that's bizarre, because no, I just

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Speaker 3: want to get to the point where like they're visible.

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Speaker 3: Care about the Boto too, it's just the top two.

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Speaker 3: What do I have to do? I'm like, we'll go

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Speaker 3: through you go through your diet. I'm like, how often

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Speaker 3: do you eat dessert? He's like, you know, I have

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Speaker 3: I have a little dessert like four times a week.

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Speaker 3: How off are you having a drink? I have a

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Speaker 3: drink like once a night. And we kind of went

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Speaker 3: through some stuff like all right, just cut everything in half.

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Speaker 3: He's like, what do you mean, like you want me

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Speaker 3: to eliminate. I'm like, no, no, just just just cut it

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Speaker 3: in half. Like let's get your like have two drinks

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Speaker 3: a week now and do dessert Like he'said, well, I

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Speaker 3: can do desserts like once a week. I'm like, so

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Speaker 3: go do desserts once a week. I want it easy.

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Speaker 3: Let's take two weeks, Let's see if your body makes

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Speaker 3: any change, and keep training the way that you're training,

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Speaker 3: and then let's make an adjustment from there. And he

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Speaker 3: literally came back in two weeks later. He took a

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Speaker 3: shirt off and like his top two aves are becoming visible,

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01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, see that. But I'm like, sometimes you

1528
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: don't have to come in with this like chicken and rice,

1529
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: like approach with broccoli, and you don't have to dive

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Speaker 3: all in. Like sometimes it's just minimalistic approaches. Remove a

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Speaker 3: little bit, take two weeks. I always like to say

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Speaker 3: two weeks because I could see some change in two

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Speaker 3: weeks and I could see if we're going on a

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Speaker 3: good trend or not. And if you know, you lose

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Speaker 3: a pound or two and your energy levels still great,

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01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: then great, we can push a little bit more. Maybe

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01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: we don't need any change. So that was the approach

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01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 3: I took with him. And he was like, all right,

1539
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: well now what I'm like, well, what do you mean now? What?

1540
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 3: You just hit your goal. He's like, well, let's do

1541
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 3: a little bit more. And then we removed a little

1542
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 3: bit more. But that's the approach rather me turning him

1543
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 3: and say, all right, I want you to weigh out

1544
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Speaker 3: tomorrow like eight ounces of this and four ounces of that,

1545
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. And the next thing you know,

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01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: he's like, I'm discouraging. I don't want to do that,

1547
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 3: and that's that's a big problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of crazy that you're this guy that

1549
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: can help people get into such strategic, specific shape for

1550
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: all of these different roles or life goals or whatever

1551
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: the case may be.

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01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: I feel like that's got to be a little overwhelming.

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: No, it's actually it's fun. Yeah, it really is fun,

1554
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: and it becomes like a puzzle. Fortunately, most of the

1555
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: time you end up nailing it and you figure it out.

1556
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 3: And I think it's because you and your client or

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: the individual that you're helping can can establish an expectation

1558
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: early on. I had some guy, actually I had I

1559
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 3: work with like two online people. This this guy reaches

1560
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: out to me today and he just started and he's like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, this last six seven days. I feel amazing.

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01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm like great, eating is great, trains great. We're kind

1563
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: of doing a little rehab with his injury as well.

1564
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: We got him with a PT so this I'm like

1565
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 3: he's like, I feel great. I feel great. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I'm in such a good headspace. I'm not depressed any more. Awesome, awesome, awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's been like six seven days. I'm like, great, We're

1568
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 3: on a great try. He's like, but I'm getting frustrated.

1569
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing the scale move. I'm like, listen, man,

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01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, if you're gonna, I'm telling you, if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna live like this, if you're gonna give me that

1572
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: type of response and save save your money. Yeah, I'm like, like,

1573
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm not the guy for you because I'm in the

1574
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: long term investments here. You want to come to me

1575
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 3: and you're like, all right, I got two weeks to

1576
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: lose because of a movie thing. It's like, all right,

1577
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: we'll do the best that we can. But like, I'm

1578
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 3: not a miracle worker here. I'm about making change in

1579
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 3: individuals and making sure that they're able to hold on

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Speaker 3: and sustain those change for a lifetime, a lifetime of happiness.

1581
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: So when they decide to go off the rails a

1582
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 3: little bit or get back on, or maybe they never

1583
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: do anymore, who knows, but they understand and they have

1584
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 3: that ability to be able to take themselves back and

1585
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 3: that's living, and that's living.

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Speaker 1: You, as you're saying, have the opportunity to give a

1587
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Speaker 1: lot of people advice a lot of the time, what

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01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: would you say has been one of the best pieces

1589
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: of advice that you have received?

1590
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: Eved building your business in your career.

1591
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Speaker 3: I think everything comes down to patients. You just can't rush,

1592
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, whether you're building a business, I mean,

1593
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: you don't know what's going to happen. You don't know

1594
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 3: how the economy is going to go, you don't know

1595
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: if you're going to be on hold to for the

1596
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: first show or whatever. It is, Like, you just have

1597
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 3: to go in with it. You got to be yourself.

1598
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: You got to go in with the best effort possible,

1599
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: and you got to just it sounds so corny, but

1600
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Speaker 3: you gotta just sit back and like have some faith

1601
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: and just just leave it in the air and just

1602
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: go about your day. And if you get that call

1603
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: or if something great happens from it, awesome, and if not,

1604
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: just understand that you did your best and you can't

1605
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Speaker 3: control every situation. So I think it really comes down

1606
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Speaker 3: to patients. And you know, besides patients, like I said,

1607
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: surround yourself with a great team, be a great person,

1608
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 3: just be great to other people. And that's kind of

1609
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 3: the rules rules I've always.

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Speaker 1: Looked by as we wind down here, The question that

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01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: I ask at the end of every hurdle is if

1612
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Speaker 1: you had an opportunity right now to offer yourself one

1613
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: piece of advice, maybe it's when you're making that little

1614
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: bit of a pivot at your gym, or you know,

1615
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: through all some of the other challenges that you had,

1616
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: those hurdle moments that you had, you have the opportunity

1617
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: to give yourself one piece of advice right.

1618
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: Now, looking back on it, what do you tell yourself?

1619
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: He laughs, I laugh, It's it's all gonna be okay. Yeah,

1620
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: you know, and it sounds it's just sounds. It sounds ridiculous.

1621
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: But you know, everyone, I mean people, I'm sure people

1622
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 3: you've had on this podcast at a specific time have

1623
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 3: thought that they're in the worst situation and like, oh god,

1624
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: like it's like no, like there's some people going through

1625
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 3: some rough stuff out there. And if we're sitting on

1626
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: or if you're listening to this podcast right now, like

1627
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've hit some bad hurdles, but you're gonna

1628
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: be okay because you've got the ability to actually sit

1629
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 3: here and absorb some information, You've got time in the day,

1630
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 3: and you've got your health where you can actually absorb

1631
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: this stuff and listen, like just relax, it's gonna be

1632
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: all right. Like like you know, unfortunately for you and I, like,

1633
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 3: you've got about fifty sixty years if we're lucky. You know,

1634
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: it's it. But that's what I'm saying. It's it's like,

1635
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: how do you like we just do the best that.

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Speaker 2: We Yeah, do the best you can with what you have. Don,

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01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: thanks so much for hanging out with me.

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 3: It's great. I love it.

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: We're here at the Smile to go inside the Free

1640
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: Hand Hotel. Please rate and review the podcast by clicking

1641
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: the link with the description to this episode. We all

1642
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: face multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear about yours.

1643
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: Reach out to me at Emily at hurdle dot us.

1644
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,959
Speaker 1: Connect with the podcast on Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Don, where do they find you? Where do they find drive?

1646
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 2: Give me the lowdown?

1647
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 3: Cool? So I'm on Instagram and I pretty much respond

1648
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: to almost everyone. So it's just Don Saladino d O

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Speaker 3: N s A. L A, D I N O. Obviously

1650
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: at Don Saladino. All my social handles are that same

1651
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Speaker 3: and Dry four ninety five is my gym down and soho.

1652
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 3: If you got any questions or you want to come by,

1653
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 3: check out the club reception at drive clubs dot com.

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Speaker 1: Love it, I am at Emily Abodi. Another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 1: Catch you guys next time