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By the way, I was 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: talking about defense and how important defense has been winning championships. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Even for Tom Brady's last two Super Bowls, high scoring 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: offense with the Rams shutdown three points, high scoring offense 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: Kansas City nine points, no touchdowns. In his Super bowls, 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: tom Brady's teams are four known and he throws for 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: less than two hundred and sixty five yards. He threw 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: for two to one against Kansas City. When he throws 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: for over two hundred and sixty five yards, Brady is 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: only three and three in Super Bowls. Stat of the Day, 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: stat of the day, that best stat of the day, 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: stat of the day here comes that what stat of 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: the day. Also recapping our big story from yesterday with 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, we did follow up. We actually heard from 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: a source as we were trying to get more information 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: to see how this went over with the Seahawks, and 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: from our source, the team not happy. Tension is high 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: in Seattle. The staff is blaming Russell in his camp 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: for taking this story to the media. And then our 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: source went on to say that either they fixed this, 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: and I think from what I'm told that Russell wanted 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: to create some kind of urgency and if it doesn't 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: do that, then the marriage in Seattle is probably going 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: to end. The current situation, according to my source, says, 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: is not sustainable the way it is right now. So 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: that takes this another step here with Russell Wilson, the 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: message that he was trying to send or did send, 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: and the question is how is this going to be 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: received by the Seattle Seahawks. Eight seven seven three DP 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: show email address DP at dan patrick dot com, Twitter 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: handle a DP show. We were talking about Patrick Mahomes 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: undergoing surgery turf toe. And we started talking about this 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: about three hours ago and we were just going around 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: the room going, do we know exactly what a turf 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: toe is? Because it gets thrown around a lot. And 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: remember when Dion Sanders was with us at the Super 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Bowl when he took off his sock and he showed 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: us that toe that was turf toe that never healed, 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: whether he had surgery on it or not. Jack Lambert, 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker, I think had turf toe and 53 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: it stayed with him the rest of his careers. So 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: we thought, you know what, let's bring in somebody who 55 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: knows what they're talking about. A former NFL offensive lineman 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with Washington, a Harvard trained orthopedic 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: doctor Mark Addos, and a good heavy back on here, doc, So, 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: do you want us to tell you what we think 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: turf toe is? And then you could probably correct us 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: on this. That'd be great. Let's see what you guys got. 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 1: Let's see how good you are. All right, I'm gonna 62 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: start with you, Paulie. What do you think turf toe is? 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: Like a ligament sprain in the toe that hampers an 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: athlete from pushing off like sprinting, like running. I think, Fritzie, 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: you got a definition for turf too. One's toe is 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: so severely sprained from the pounding on the turf that 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: it does something what kind of disconnects the toe from 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: the other toes and needs to be surgically fixed a 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: snapped back into place. All right, Seaton, It is an 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: injury that when say, like wide receivers are going to 71 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: get their second foot in and they drag it along 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: the turf, their toe is on turf and then it 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: gets hurt like that. Okay, turf toe. Oh I did not. 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: I did not look at it that way. Yes, Wicklam, 75 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: So I thought it was a rugburn style injury for 76 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: many times he shows are the worst when you're playing 77 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: with your kids at rugburn. But I do believe now 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: ligament undeath your toe that connects to the foot. Okay, 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: let's let's bring in doc, and Doc, what exactly is 80 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: turf toe? Well, I think I think the example one 81 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: wins the ligament injury. So it can be a ligament injury, 82 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: or it can be an injury to the planter plate, 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: which is almost like a cartilage thing that's on the 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: bottom of the toe. It is the big toe joint, 85 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: and it rarely is an injury they require surgery. The 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: vast majority of players don't require surgery. In the NFL, 87 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: there have been about there was a study that was 88 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: done that had about thirty guys with turftoe injuries that 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: were pretty severe and only about ten percent ended up 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: requiring some surgery. Deon Sanders did require surgery. Deon sands 91 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: turftoe injury did end his career. Essentially, he stuck around 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: a couple more years, but never really was the same. 93 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: Antonio Gates had had a pretty bad turf toe, had 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: surgery in two thousand and eight and played many years, 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: was very productive after that injury and surgery. So generally speaking, 96 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: guys do okay, I think Dion as his foot would 97 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: a test was an extreme case. Did Mahomes play the 98 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with a torn ligament? Yeah, certainly he did. 99 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, in other words, when you have a turf 100 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: toe injury, there are three grades. Grade one, Grade two, 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Grade three. It's the same for almost anything. Grade one, 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: just a few of the fibers are torn. Grade two, 103 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: a bunch more torn. Grade three. It's completely disruptive. So 104 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: for someone to need surgery. Generally there's got to be 105 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: a little bone chip that's in the joint or the 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: toe has to be somewhat unstable, which would tell you 107 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: that that ligament tear had to be pretty significant. Much 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: the normal timeline for a recovery, so, I mean, the 109 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: normal timeline for a guy who does not require surgery 110 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: generally about eight weeks, So it's not short even for 111 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: guys that don't require surgery. When you do require surgery, 112 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: it's it's generally a four month recovery can go out 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: to six months. Four months would make it easy for 114 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 1: him to be back for camp. It was six months, 115 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: It could it could eat into the start of the season. 116 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: Here if it wasn't the Super Bowl, do you think 117 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: he would have been playing? I do? I do. I mean, 118 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: I think Patrick Mahomes is one of those guys who 119 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: cares so much about the team and his teammates that 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: I think that if he felt that he could help 121 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: the team, he would be on the field. But does 122 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: this last though? This is this going to be something 123 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: that can last? Like? Could he have done irreparable harm 124 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: to this? Certainly you can worse than an injury. You 125 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: can make the ligament tear worse, you can do more 126 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: damage to the joint. So is it possible that he 127 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: played him playing in the AFC Championship and the Super 128 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Bowl damage his joint further? Yes, that is possible. Do 129 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I think a well done surgery should allow him to 130 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: return to the field and be effective. I expect that. 131 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I think that that's how this is going to play out. 132 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: But I wonder if there's more damage there than just 133 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: turf toe, if it's the plate itself, if that's involved 134 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: in it. Not to get too deep into the woods here, 135 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: but how much more recovery time? How much more severe 136 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: is this injury? Well, sometimes you completely disrupt that planner plate. 137 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes you break the sesamoid bones. There are two little 138 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: bones that sit under that joint as well. Sometimes you 139 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: damage the joints and there's a little bone chip in 140 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: the joint. So there are a number of things that 141 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: can complicate this, but all of them shouldn't make his 142 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: recovery extend out beyond six months. We're finding out Dak 143 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: Prescott had a second surgery, compound fracture and a dislocation here. 144 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: How like is that normal and how does that affect 145 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: him long term? It's not normal um, you wonder without 146 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: knowing exactly what the surgery that was done. I mean, 147 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: sometimes they go in to remove some of the hardware. 148 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Some of the hardware is symptomatic. Sometimes you go in 149 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: because people are so stiff that they require a procedure 150 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: to get rid of some of the scar tissue so 151 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: that you can have more normal motion. And sometimes after 152 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: a big fractured dislocation like that, you have to go 153 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: in later to maybe remove a little bone chip or 154 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: something that's irritating the joint. So all of those things 155 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: are not good news. But I think he should be 156 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: able to return and play play well as a quarterback, 157 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: you know. I mean if you if he's a running 158 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: back or a wide receiver, you know, a defensive back. 159 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a much bigger deal, even 160 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: though he is a somewhat mobile quarterback. I think that 161 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: he should be able to return and be the old 162 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. How much progress have we made on Achilles tears. 163 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: There are more minimally invasive procedures that are out there 164 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: now that I think are pretty darn effective. I think 165 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: that the rehab has become appropriately aggressive, and so I 166 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: think folks do better now with Achilles ruptures than they 167 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: did a decade ago. And I think some of it's 168 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: due to the more minimally invasive surgery and some of 169 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: it's due to the more aggressive rehab. I'm going to 170 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: open this up to the dnets. Do you guys have 171 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: a sports related question injury wise for a doctor? Addicts here? 172 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Because I had the microfracture surgery of my knee and 173 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: it didn't work, but I had six operations I eventually 174 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: got a replacement knee. Are they still doing microfracture surgery 175 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: where they take the drill and go hip it into 176 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: your knee. It's much more rarely done. It is sort 177 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: of a last ditch shepherd and a younger patient to 178 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: try to get some new crowds degree. Just so you know, 179 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: I am the exact same boat. I had microfracture, a 180 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: few more surgeries and I have a total meet too. 181 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, so the result, Yeah, after microfracture replace, my 182 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: career was never the same after that. You guys have 183 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: this is free medical advice, So if you want to 184 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: take doc up on this, if you got a question, 185 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: here MC love and do you have a question for 186 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: I'll start, So I have a hip impingement. Doc am 187 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: I making it worse by running a jog, am, I 188 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: making it worse. And well, I eventually need a hip 189 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: replacement because I have a hip impingement in my right hip. 190 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: All right, so I am fifty nine years old, I 191 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: haven't weigh less than three hundred pounds, and forever both 192 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: my hips I have impingement. I mean I avoid positions 193 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: that caused me pain. Right, most men have fai or 194 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: phemo asset tabular impingement. And it does not necessarily mean 195 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: that you're gonna need a joint replacement now. I mean, 196 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: as we age, sometimes we have to change what we 197 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: do and maybe need to go from running to a 198 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: bike or running to an elliptical, or you know, change 199 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: it up a little bit, cross train a little bit. 200 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: But no, I wouldn't tell you to necessarily go and 201 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: have a hip scope to have that inngingement removed, because 202 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: who knows that will actually make you better. You could 203 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: end up like Dan here and have four more surgeries 204 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: than a hiper place Seaton O'Connor. About four years ago, 205 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: when the Super Bowl was in Houston, we went and 206 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: shot a bit where all of us were went to 207 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: a spin class, and it was funny because we're all 208 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: out of shape, or most of us are out of shape. Okay, 209 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: I was out of shape. And while we were doing that, 210 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: when we are done, sometime later that night, my right 211 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: knee exploded and was like four times the size it 212 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: normally is. And I couldn't walk right for about two 213 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: or three weeks. And now every time that I go 214 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: do something, whether it's running or like play soccer with 215 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: my kid or something, my nie swells up again. Do 216 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:01,119 Speaker 1: you think there's something wrong there? So you were obviously 217 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: I think you tried too hard and that that's been class. Um. 218 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: So you were up, and you were up and out 219 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: of the saddle and you know, really really grinding and 220 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: going after Did you win? Did you win? Out of 221 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: all the day, that's really the winner. I sure was not. No, 222 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: he was not. Do you think he needs surgery? Do 223 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: you think there's MRI? Well? All right, So when that happens, 224 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: it's usually you're grinding some of the cartlage off the 225 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: ends of your bone. Little pieces of cartilage flake off, 226 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: the joint gets irritated and swells up. And so now 227 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: when you're running around playing with the kids, this continues 228 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: to happen. So I mean an MRI would show you 229 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: whether this was a meniscus tear or more cartilage injury. 230 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Very often we have these injections. I call him an 231 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: oil change. It's highaluronic acid and it's it's like an 232 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: oil change for the joint and sometimes that can help 233 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: protect the carlage and calm the joint down. But it 234 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: sounds like you're you got some wear and tear in 235 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: there for sure, Paulieu, Doctor Addis. I was throwing some 236 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: weight around last year in the weight room, and like 237 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: my elbow where the joint is if I put my 238 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: arms straight out, it's the top like the ligament or 239 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is at the top of the joint. And 240 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: to hold stuff like in your hand, it hurts a lot. 241 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: And rest ice all that stuff didn't help whatsoever. What 242 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Sounds like tennis elbow. If you if 243 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: you stand up and grab a chair and try to 244 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: pick up a chair by the back of a chair, 245 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: how's that feel? Horrendous? Awful? Okay, yeah, it's tennis elbow. 246 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: So the medical term is lateral epicondolitis. Go to you 247 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: orthpeedic surgeon. Let him give you a qut his own injection. 248 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: You'll be cured and we'll save the worst for lunch. Todd, Yeah, 249 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: I got a lot of probs the bottoms of my feet. 250 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: I went to a prodiatrist recently, but I want to 251 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: hear what you have to stay right before, right under 252 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: the toes, I feel like I'm walking on a bump, 253 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: or like there's a sock stuffed in my shoe, and 254 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on. He suggested. Eventually I 255 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: may need physical therapy or needles. But what is this 256 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: bump across right under my toes where it feels like 257 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm walking on like a little mini Pitchers mound? You know? 258 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean usually that's metaturs allogen. So the better question 259 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: is do you feel worse barefoot or do you feel 260 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: worse with shoes on? I feel worse with shoes on. 261 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: And he sold me these, you know, little insoles to 262 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: put in it, and it told me to ice my feet, 263 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: which it hasn't worked just yet. So I'm trying to 264 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: figure out to avoid needles what I do if it 265 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: feels if it feels worse with shoes on, then that 266 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: usually means you have a neuroma. So when the bones 267 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: are pressed together by a shoe. It's it's irritating a nerve, 268 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: and that nerve grows and makes a little you know, 269 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: it gets a little swollen. So those neuromas usually they 270 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: give you a metatarsal pad and then so that spreads 271 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: the toes apart, and sometimes they can do an injection 272 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: to shrink that nerve, and worst case scenario, they can 273 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: do a surgery and actually go in and remove that 274 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: nerve so it doesn't feel like that anymore. Would you 275 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: be willing to do a surgery here in the man 276 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: cave on one of the danas dunk? You know, I 277 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: think we can pull it off. You know, it's a 278 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: local anesthetic and a bullet to bite on. I think 279 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: we can pull it off. Do you realize that one 280 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: of my when I got the micro fracture knee surgery, 281 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: my doctor said do you want to watch me do it? 282 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: And he was going to give me a local and 283 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I could watch in the monitor, and I said, are 284 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: you crazy? And he said, well, a lot of people 285 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: don't want to be put under because of the anesthesia 286 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: and then you get nauseous when you wake up. He said, 287 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: this is just a local, and you could watch me 288 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: send a drill bit through your knee? Do you do this? 289 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: Do you do you allow people to stay away? I don't. 290 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't. You know, I actually did stay awake from 291 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: one of my surgeries when I was a resident and 292 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: I was actually training to be a North Peak surgeon. 293 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: I watched one of mine, but with my patients, I 294 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: just think I did it a few times and I 295 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: had patients that basically never quit talking the entire case, 296 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: and it was a distraction, and so I just put him. Now, 297 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: why is every surgery a successful surgery on an athlete? 298 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: I call it the beautiful baby syndrome? You know, I mean, 299 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: we do a surgery and that's our baby. You know, 300 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: it's to say the baby. But everybody's surgery is a 301 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: successful surgery. It feels like, yeah, it's it's the Yeah, 302 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: we should have our hands browns after every case. And 303 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: do you make your patients put like this is the 304 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: need that you're going to operate on. Like I had 305 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: to take a sharpie and I had to actually write 306 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: my initials on it just so they asked me like 307 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: six times, are we doing your left knee? Yes? And 308 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: then I go, God, these guys are incompetent. They don't 309 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: know what need that they're doing. They wanted me legally 310 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: to keep saying, no, it's my left knee. All right, 311 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: here's the sharpie. We want you to write your initials 312 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: on the knee that we're going to cut on. Is 313 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: that normal? Every every case, the patient and the surgeon 314 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: have to write with a sharpie on the knee. And 315 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be asked by every single nurse and 316 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: every anisthesiologist. I mean it's the worst case scenario, right, 317 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you I'm on the wrong stremity, you know, 318 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: let's right, m a check. Did you ever defense? Did 319 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: you ever do that? Hey? Doc, always great to talk 320 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: to you. We appreciate your time. I hope you're well. 321 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: You bet, thanks having doctor. Mark Addos a former Super 322 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: Bowl champ with Washington. He went to Harvard. By the way, 323 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: if you couldn't tell people you went to Harvard, would 324 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: we care about going to Harvard? My kids? Isn't that 325 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: when you you climb Mount Everest, if you can't tell 326 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: people that you climb Mount Everest, would you climb Mount Everest? 327 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: If that was part of it? You go, Hey, you 328 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: can climb Mount Everest. But you can't tell anybody you 329 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: did this, yes, Pa. So we went around in the 330 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: room with doctor Addis and he gave me the get 331 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: a shot, No big deal, don't worry about it, and 332 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: I feel totally better about my elbow. But then he 333 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: gave Fritzie and Seaton more like this could be a thing. 334 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm a little up tight about what I heard though. Yeah. 335 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: Fritzie's like, you I have to have a nerve surgery. 336 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: I thinks. He's like, I'm not sure what you got. 337 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: You gotta have a look. Call it some kind of 338 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: neuroma and needles. And if it's still bothering, well, Seaton 339 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: should definitely if you're if your knee blows up like that, 340 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: then you should go in for an m R. Absolutely, yeah, 341 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. Well, if you can get through it, I mean, 342 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: that's that's the key. You know, there's a lot of 343 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: it you just tolerate, but after a while you go 344 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: It's like with my knee. When I got my knee replacement, 345 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, why didn't I do this before? Well, because 346 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: I was stupid and I kept going nap, I'm going 347 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: to fight through the pain here, And then I realized, 348 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: let me do this all good. Yeah. See, I'm not 349 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: really a strong going to the doctor kind of guy. 350 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's a good way to live, but 351 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not great at that. Maybe I should 352 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: try to be better about it. I don't know too 353 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: many people are that, go, boy, can't wait to go 354 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: to the doctor? Well no not it just can't wait. 355 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: But like, have a go once in fifteen years. All 356 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: I will take a break. Another doctor will join us. 357 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: Doctor do you so? Thanks? Huh yes. But we asked 358 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers the same medical questions. Can you explain Turftoe 359 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: to us? Paulie Tello? Doc Rivers? About your elbow? How's 360 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: your defense? And how's my elbow? I wonder if he's 361 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: ever prescribed anything, but Doc Rivers will. By the way, 362 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: his first name is Glenn and it was Doc Rivers, 363 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: doctor j. But Doc Rivers will cho one us. Coming up, 364 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: take a break. 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Okay, 406 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: as you said, Ian Rapp Report is reporting Orlando Brown 407 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: or the Ravens their tackle wants to be traded. He 408 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: tweeted his desire to only play left tackle and the 409 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: Ravens are really bent on improving that offensive line for 410 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Jacks. This is not the first step. I don't 411 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: think it improving that offensive line. And is it a 412 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: coincidence that's being announced now? Probably not? Probably not. Uh, 413 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: let's see what do we have. So we're waiting for 414 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers to join his Fritzie all right, Texans have 415 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: fired their team president. Uh, Jamie Roots. I don't know 416 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: much about Jamie Roots. Did he resign resigning from his 417 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: position effective today according to Adam Schefter, I don't know 418 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: what that means. But is this a surprise? Mcloman? Is 419 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: there any more buzz to this? Well, the only because 420 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: it's the Texans and everyone's wondering what's going on? And 421 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: this Jack Easterby is still like NFL writers just obsessed 422 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, yeah, I don't get it, like he 423 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: feels like that he's uh kind of their sense a there, 424 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: you know that he's there, Gandhi there with the Texans. Yes, 425 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: it's this kind of stability that I'll make de Shaun 426 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: Watson want to stay with this organization obviously, Or is 427 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: this a move because Deshaun didn't like that guy? But 428 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: presidents are usually more like business guys, right, they do. 429 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna guess that this guy probably didn't have 430 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: much interaction with Deshaun Watson, right, I get that feeling. Yeah. Point, 431 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: what is the difference between an NFL team president and 432 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: the general manager? The president would be the general manager's boss. 433 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: I believe so, But does the No. I had a friend, 434 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: a friend from my high school became a team president. 435 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: It's much more of a business role. It's like you 436 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: you oversee sales and you oversee stuff like that. You 437 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: can't touch football. They're completely separate. Okay, yeah, for most 438 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: teams it might be different. So one is business side 439 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: and the other one is player personnel. Right, Okay, you've 440 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: probably never heard of most of the team presidents. I 441 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: don't know. No, But wasn't John Elway team president or 442 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: isn't he still team president with the Broncos. I think 443 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: he was called VP of Personnel, then something I CEO. 444 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: I'll check, okay, Jeff and Detroit, Hey Jeff, what's on 445 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: your mind today? Hey Jeff? And we'll try to get 446 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: to Jeff later. Yes, pollint. John Alway's title was general 447 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: manager in president football Operations, and now he's just team president. 448 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay? Eight seven seven three d P Show email address, 449 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: dpit dan Patrick dot com twitter handle at dp's show. 450 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier in the show that Tom Brady's had 451 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: two Hall of Fame careers, maybe three Hall of Fame 452 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: careers packed into one, and then Jerry Rice has had 453 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: at least two Hall of Fame careers and maybe three. 454 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: But watching the Super Bowl the other night, and you 455 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: started to think what Brady has done since he's thirty seven. 456 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: And I gotta believe Lebron looks at this and goes, 457 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: you know what, if he can do it, I can 458 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: do it again. I want to be m VP. I 459 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: think it's really important for Lebron to be MVP this year. 460 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: And I don't know why, I just get that feeling. 461 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: But you know, if you're looking at Embad or Yokich, 462 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: like these guys are playing playing really well? Is Doc 463 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Rivers set to join us there? And there he is 464 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: the seventy six ers head coach. And were you a 465 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: football fan? Are you? Did you watch Super Bowl? Doc? Yeah, 466 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a Bears fan. Um, you know, I'm hoping 467 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: that we get Deshaun Watson and we can win the 468 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So them So yeah, but you're used to seeing, 469 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: well you got one year with the Bears eighty five. Yeah, 470 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: that was it. Where were you in eighty five? Where 471 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: were you? I was playing for the Atlanta Hawks. I 472 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: remember watching the Super Bowl with Scott A. Sing's, Tree 473 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: Rollins and Randy Whitman. What did that team mean to you? Oh? 474 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: My gosh, it was the best. It's first of all, 475 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: it was the best defense to ever played for one 476 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: season in the NFL. I'm biased, but I believe that. 477 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: And their cockiness, you know, doing the Super Bowl Shuffle 478 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: video after Game four and then going out and win 479 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That was a pretty cool team. So 480 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: I'd met the world. Who's the cockiest team you've ever 481 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: been around, either on or played against? I would say 482 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: the old Celtics, you know, the Larry Bird, Michale, Danny 483 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: age Parish. Uh. They just act like they were better 484 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: than everybody, and they were. Uh, but they didn't have 485 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: to act like that. Well like though, that that confidence 486 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: that certain teams have when you just walk on the floor. Yeah, 487 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: it's a I thought with the championship swagger, you know, 488 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: we had it the year we want it in Boston 489 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: that following year, uh Dan, we had games where no 490 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: No Rayale and no, no, Paul, Piers, no, Kevin. We 491 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: still won the game. Uh. We had games down in 492 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: the full quarter that you can just feel like our 493 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: guys kept thinking, well, we're going to win the game 494 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: at some point. Uh. The Goat State Warriors have it 495 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: all the all the teams that win it kind of 496 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: get it that following year. But the role of you, 497 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: your coach at being the coach with a team like that, 498 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: it felt like Rondo was a coach on the floor, 499 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: but as a the head coach, can you allow Rondo 500 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: to be your coach on the floor. Yeah, if it's 501 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: the right coach, you know. Uh, and Ronda was the 502 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: right coach. You know. Ronda was just brilliantly smart guy, driven, 503 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: competitive guy. So so when you have that, uh, then 504 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: you have the right person on the floor. Do you 505 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: care that Rondo and Rayal and don't get along, Like, yeah, 506 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: I do, I do. Um. You know, it's it's something 507 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: that I'm hoping at some point will subside. It hasn't 508 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: uh yet. Um. You know, it's tough because these two 509 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: guys want a title together and in most cases, when 510 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: you win something together, you know, always liking it to 511 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: having a blood transfusion you're you're you're bound together for 512 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: the rest of your life, and these guys are, but 513 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: not in the right way. And it has not gone 514 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: away yet, and it's just too bad. It feels like 515 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: there's there's been a player empowerment in the NBA for 516 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: a while. You can go back to you know, Charles 517 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: tried to join the Rockets, Karl Malone and Steve Nash 518 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: or Gary Payton. Lebron certainly has done this. Now we 519 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: see Tom Brady going to Tampa bringing in players here, 520 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: Harden once out of Houston, Kde and Kyrie get together. 521 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: Is this good for sports? I think it is. I've 522 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: never had a problem with it. I'll tell you that 523 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: I do have a problem when players leave my team. 524 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: I've never liked that. Do you take it personally when 525 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: they decide they want to get out? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely 526 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: you should. I mean, you put so much into these 527 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: guys then and you think you're doing the right thing, 528 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: and then you get a call they sudden since wants 529 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: the league, and you take that personal. You don't take 530 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: that you know that they want to go join another 531 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: team and think that team is better. You even take 532 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: that part personal. But I think you know listen. Player 533 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: in barment is good in a lot of way. Players 534 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: for so many years really had no rights. You know, 535 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: I was a player, and let's be honest, you have 536 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: to play your way into greatness to be able to 537 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: have that power, because you know, I was an average player, 538 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: a little bit above average. I think if I had 539 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: a garden and said I want to get traded, they 540 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: would have they would have done it. They're not sending 541 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: you where you want to go. That's exactly right. Yeah, 542 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: we're talking to Doc Rivers, the seventy six ers head coach. 543 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: How does it go over in Philly with you being 544 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: called Doc? And you know how seventy six Ers fans are. 545 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: They're very territorial with the only doc and that's doctor Joy. 546 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: I tell you I love the fans there because they 547 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: remind me a little bit of Boston. They have what 548 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: you would call real passion. And so the building I'm 549 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: the building I'm living in. The doorman says, hey, you know, 550 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm never calling you Doc, and I'm saying no, I'm 551 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: good that. You know. I thought it was a joke. Dan. 552 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: I've been there now but six seven months living there, 553 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: and it's either hey, miss Rivers, or Hay Glenn, he 554 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: is actually serious. He will not call me Doc. Was 555 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: Doc still around when you got into the NBA? Yeah, 556 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: I want to say he played two or three years. 557 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: You know, I've never met him. Um. And the first 558 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: game we played him Downinique gets injured and and Mike Fortell, 559 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: who comes up to me and says, hey, um, you're 560 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: a point guard, but I'm gonna need you to guard 561 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, Doctor Jake. I was thinking this is this 562 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: is that gonna go well? And what was great about it? 563 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: We come into the jump ball circle and um, you know, 564 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: Doctor j reaches out and says, what's up? Doc? And 565 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: so that was a really cool moment for me. That 566 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: was really cool and I was happy you did that. 567 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: And you got to go back to college when Rick 568 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: Mageris was your assistant coaching. Were you at a basketball 569 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: camp when you wore the Doctor j T shirt. Yeah. 570 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: I was a freshman in high school and Rick and 571 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: al McGuire they didn't know my name, you know, they 572 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: needed me to play. The Bucks were there playing the 573 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: next position game for us the campers. They only had 574 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: nine players and they needed a tenth player. And al 575 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: McGuire stands up and says, hey, Doc, come down and play. 576 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there like looking just like all the 577 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: other kids. They get who was Doc, and he pointed 578 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: at me and I realized that I was Doc. And 579 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: I found out after the game that Rick majeriris total man, 580 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: that kid can really play. But I had a Doctor J. 581 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: T shirt. So I told Rick and Hank and how 582 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: fifty times my name's Glenn, my name's not Doc, And 583 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: they didn't want to hear it, so I just had 584 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: to live with it. How did Doctor J do against 585 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: your defensive prowess? He did well? Yeah, I don't know 586 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: how well, but he did very well. I remember we 587 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: had Grant hill On and he said later in his career, 588 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, I was supposed to be this defensive stopper, 589 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, and he was a great offensive guy, but 590 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, because he was limited with injuries, all of 591 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, he was a defensive stopper. He's got to 592 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: go out there and guard Lebron. And he said, I'm 593 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: not a defensive stopper, but I had to have a role. 594 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: And that was basically it. Yeah, it's a tough role, 595 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: I tell you, especially late in your career when I 596 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: was with the Spurs. You know, I was coming up 597 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: to the bench my last two years and Bob Hill 598 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: would put me into just to stop people. Vinnidale near 599 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: growing unfortunately got people really warm by the time I 600 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: got gay. I remember playing Alan Houston in Detroit and 601 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: I call a time out at the three minutes on 602 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: the floor and Bob Hill's going crazy, what's your go 603 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: whole time out for it? So I can't guard this 604 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: a guy? I mean he was. He was absolutely killing me, 605 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: and you know everyone's laughing and joking. I'm not joking. 606 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: I love that you called the time out, but also 607 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: Vinnie lets him score. You got to come in and 608 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: try to get you know, shutting. He got him warm. Yeah. 609 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: We used to call Bitney Kerosene, you know, because oh, 610 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: how's your team? By the way, I love him, Uh, 611 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: And we have a lot of growing to do, Like 612 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: it's a very long talented basketball team. Uh. Figuring out 613 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: still how to win, you know, uh, and what winning 614 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: looks like every day they're young, dan Um, I have 615 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: to remind myself of that. Usually when you have a 616 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: talented team that has a chance, you have a lot 617 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: of veterans on it. This team, you know, other than 618 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: Danny and Dwight. This is a really young basketball team, 619 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: and so they're they're really fun to coach, you know, 620 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: and we look at this and from the outside and 621 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: we go, well, you should be able to help Ben 622 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: Simmons shoot, or you know, it's like Lonzo ball, we 623 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: should be able to help him shoot. Is it harder 624 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: to help somebody this late in their career? You know, 625 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: when you're in your twenties, which sounds late, that you 626 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: haven't learned how to shoot or have that confidence. What 627 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: role can you play in helping Ben be a better shooter? Well, 628 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: what you want them to do is first be a 629 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: better player, you know, to show him what his talents 630 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: can bring him. You know, for me, it's just passing 631 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: against his defense, is his playmaking, and then it's a shooting. 632 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: I always start with the free throw line, you know. 633 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: I think you gain a lot of confidence from that line. 634 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: And you know, our first conversation together, I told him, 635 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: I want you to get on the line ten times 636 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: a game. I want you to make it to the 637 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: file line ten times a game. And to me, that 638 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: starts it because when you see a player being made 639 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: two freezos late last night in the game When you 640 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: see a player willing to get filed, that tells you 641 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: that their confidence is starting to grow. I think we're 642 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: too much. We're made about Ben Simmons and three pointers. 643 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, he didn't need to be a 644 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: three point shooter. He needs to take them when they're there, 645 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you know what I'm saying. Jimmy Butler 646 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: in the playoffs scored with fifty points slash year without 647 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: taking the three you know, so you can still be 648 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: very effective, especially with Ben's body type. What was that 649 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: feeling like when you realize that Clippers didn't want to 650 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: keep you. Oh, it's a hard one, you know, because 651 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: I know I can coach, you know, and so when 652 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: you're with that team, and it was not an easy 653 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: year last year, Dan, you're in the bubble um. You know, 654 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: half the guys didn't play most of the year. I 655 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: mean Paul, George and Kawhit and Leonard I think had 656 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: five practices together the entire year. So you know, you 657 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: never got a chance to coach that real team, uh 658 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: and and and get them to their potential. But whenever 659 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: you lose a job, it's hard, you know, because you 660 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: believe you could do the job, and especially with that team. 661 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: Like I looked at that team and thought, you know, 662 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: healthy all year. I think we would have been hard 663 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: to beat. But we never had that. The bubble was 664 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: a disaster. We had guys. You know, I think transmiss 665 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: thirty days in the bubble. Lou Williams had uh, you 666 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: know chicken wing gates. If you remember, Hey, how mad 667 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: did you get it? Him for going out to get 668 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: chicken wings? I was upset at him because you know, 669 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: the thing was, he went back to Atlanta for a reason. 670 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: There was a death in his family, and uh, we 671 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: really fought for him to go. And I get a 672 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: late night call about the chicken wings. I'm like, you 673 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me. Um, you know, but but you 674 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: gotta move on with it. That's one thing in coaching 675 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: and in life. Like the next day after me telling 676 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: Lou how very how not smart that was, Uh, you're 677 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: looking at your team like, I got to get this 678 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: team together. So it puts you in a tough spot. 679 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: Have you been to Magic City, Doc? Oh yeah, but 680 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: it was a whole long long time ago. I you know, 681 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember them having a kitchen. Well you probably 682 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: went to cheatah three, maybe or the Gold Club. Yeah, 683 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: that was back in the day of uh, you know 684 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: those clubs. I don't even know if they're open anymore. 685 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm assuming yes, because because it's Atlanta. You know, it's funny, Dan, 686 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: we we're talking about Atlanta, and you know, you remember 687 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: the year we won in two thousand and eight. I 688 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: made a comment after the Hawks beat us in I 689 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: think Game six, I said, the CD of Atlanta played 690 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: wonderful today, and I was basically referencing, you know, we 691 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: lost to the Hawks, but I have a strong suspicion 692 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: that the CD beat us, the club circuit may have 693 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: gotten a victory exactly exactly, well what Miami would always 694 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,959 Speaker 1: worry coaches worry about the Miami flu with Yah. Yeah. 695 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: I used to make deals with our guys, you know. Um, 696 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: I would tell them that if we won, we were 697 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna still over night that night, but the night before, 698 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: just get some rests, just get some rest. And sometimes 699 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: it worked and sometimes Oh you're the best. Hey, Uh, 700 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: congrats on a season so far. We appreciate your time. 701 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: It's always thanks for joining us. A great scene man, 702 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: Thank you, Doc. That's a Glenn Glenn Rivers there. Doc 703 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: Rivers seventy six ers head coach some fun stuff. All right, 704 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: Well take a break. We'll close up shop after this 705 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: and The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The 706 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 707 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 708 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us 709 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 710 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. There's a lot of fun. Denny Hamlin, 711 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: our favorite NASCAR driver, joins us tomorrow, as will the 712 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: Buccaneers Shack Barrett on the program. I've got something for 713 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: you here. Tom Brady's won four titles after he turned 714 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: thirty six, Bill Russell, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Derek Jeter. 715 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: Want to combine twenty six titles? None of them after 716 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: turning thirty six? Stat of the day of the day, 717 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: that past stat of the day? Stat of the day? 718 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Here comes that? What stat of the day? I was 719 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: just informed that we're having a pizza party here on 720 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: The Dan pat Rick Show. And here's the big surprise. 721 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: Todd is hosting a pizza party. What are you talking 722 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: about the first time in nineteen years that I've known you, 723 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: that just doesn't happen. I've never seen your credit card before, 724 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: you have not. I rarely see it myself. That's what 725 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Yeah, so that's what I'm talking about. Pizza. Oh, 726 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: that was That was one of my favorite moments, just 727 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: to see. So we had lunch and Seaton had a pizza. 728 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: So Seaton ordered himself a small pizza and Fritzie walked 729 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: by and just put his clammy hand out there and 730 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: there was a white clam pizza and grabbed and grabbed 731 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: a slice and goes, that's what I'm talking about, and 732 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 1: just and then Seton goes, yeah, all right, go ahead, 733 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: that's okay, Todd, just eat my lunch. Yeah. To put 734 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: a little context into it, to make it sid it's 735 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: like a total creep. I thought we were having some 736 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of group pizza party and there was up several 737 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: pizzas boxes laying around and that was one of the 738 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: box Todd. There was one pizza box. Was really think 739 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: I would just stick my head in Steven's pizza, and 740 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: you did. It's literally what you did with it with 741 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: that and knowing that that that's just his lunch, that 742 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 1: I didn't do that, but you didn't ask you just 743 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain it, and I love I will 744 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: forever explain it. As I was under depressure. It was 745 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: one of several people all having pizza. It's a small 746 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: pizza that was a real like indoctor nation for the 747 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: French kid who was pretty new at the time, and 748 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: that Weston as I said, that's okay, Todd, just go 749 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: ahead to eat my lunch. His face it was like 750 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: the most horrifying thing he had ever witnessed like and 751 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: that was sort of a so this is how things 752 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: work around here, bud. So this is paid back day. 753 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: Welcome Todd is going to uh six years later, I'm 754 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: gonna buy some pizza. That is what I'm talking about. 755 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. You you were so excited, 756 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: Oh you were so exaested. Think I would have preferred 757 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: some seen punched me in the face that just to 758 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: react the way it would have been less comfortable. That's 759 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Okay, I just eat my pizza. Yeah, no, 760 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: eat my lunch. At my lunch. That's all I'm talking about. 761 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: And I really felt bad about it. All right, let's 762 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: go around the room. Uh, let's see can we do this? 763 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: Dan sports history, PAULI, yeah, this is a good one. 764 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty one, the AFL's franchise was originally in Los Angeles. 765 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: They moved down to San Diego. I didn't realize that 766 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers were for one year in nineteen sixty in 767 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Todd. Would you learn today the doorman and 768 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers building Philadelphia refuses to call him doctor because 769 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 1: of doctor j will only call him mister Rivers. O' glen. 770 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: I like that mclovin. I learned how he got the 771 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: name Doc Rivers. 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