1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: is the Player's louvel broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCrae, 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: and new He scrugs. Alright, it is Friday right here, 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: all the players louds. Hope everybody's doing well? Um do 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: we scrugs? Long time Cowboys report to join by former 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Church. Players. I was brought to 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: you by Hotels dot Com. I am in my SWBC 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Mortgage virtual home studio. Barry's not in his home studios, 10 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: living the life that he Shan's the shot con of 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jackets. Yes, sir, I love it, man, I 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: love it. Oh man. You know I'm just trying to 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: live out here, man, you know, just taking in all 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: the scenes. Man. And it's a it's a beautiful Friday. 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful Friday. Look, it's a players lounge. So, 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: like I always said, where else would you rather be 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: than talking Cowboys football with me and Neui and our 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: co host d Mac. I've seen a lot of the 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Twitter Twitter questions asking where's he had? Is he coming back? 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: He'll be back mid May, so just hold on a 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: little bit and he'll be back for us. But like always, 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: let's get started on as players lounge. Yes, in the 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: business barrier, what we call it, it's on assignment. So 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, there we go, and he's still a part 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: of the team. He's on assignment right now. So he's 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna be back in May. But just right now, I 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: just gotta let him be on assignment handling some things 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: that he'll be back with us rolling along here. So 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: the draft is less than a week away, and in 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: some ways, if you think about a church, Thursday is 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: kind of easy. The Cowboys know exactly kind of what 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: will be there for them at ten Friday is when 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: the real work starts, because you're talking about the second 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: and third round picks of the draft, and the Cowboys 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: have had a trying to hit on these second round picks. 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: And so to me, that's gonna be really key for 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in this twenty twenty one draft. What do 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: you do in rounds two? In rounds three? You know 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: you cannot come up with another Tristan Hill, Kay, you 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: just you just cannot. You need to have players you 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: come in here immediately and get it to me day. 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: These day two players need to become either walk in 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: starters or major contributors to the football team without a doubt. 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: You know, those two those rounds two through three, you 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: know a lot of everybody's kind of you know, looking 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: at that first round pick. It's you know, it's the 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: glitz and the glamour, it's the flashy pick. It's some 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: teams you know, future franchise maybe quarterback or future franchise 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: pick at that number one spot, and that's where all 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: the glitz and glamour goes. But the real hard work 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: and the real adding consistent depth to your team, that's 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: when those rounds two through four, I believe come in. 53 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: That's when you come in, heredy, That's when you get 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: your guys that they might not be day one starters, 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: but you're saying to them, hey, look, future, the future 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: could be yours. Just grind at it and get to yours. 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: And this is where we need depth pieces because we 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: know this team going into this season, you know, I 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: hate to say it, but you know we're an injury 60 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of injury prone team. I mean, over these past 61 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: couple of years, we have a lot of starters miss 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: huge chunks of time, and it kind of, you know, 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: dismantled what we have throughout the season. So for me, 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: these rounds two through four they're extremely vital. They're great 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: for adding depth pieces and then you might be able 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: to find that diamond in the rough. I mean, we 67 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: saw what we were able to find in Dak Prescott 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: in the fourth round, the future franchise quarterback in the 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: face of the Dallas Cowboys organization. So he was able 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: to be found in the fourth round. Checho Woozie, I'm sorry, 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Traymon Diggs last year was in the second round pick 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: and no he had, you know, an up and down season. 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: I think everybody can say they love his fight and 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: they love the dog in him, and he could be 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: a future cornerstone piece to this defense. So to me, 76 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: the rounds two through three or two through four, they're 77 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: just as important as the first round. They're just not 78 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: as flashy. You look last year Diggs being taken in 79 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: the second round. He was a player that we had 80 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: talked about, we talked about the we talked, I should 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: say about the Cowboys taking in the first so they 82 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: get an absolute gift to get him in the second round. 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: I thought he was the best corner that they had 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: last year. And if they can get some help over 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: there for that young man, I think he has a 86 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: good future. But just looking here at the Cowboys, you 87 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: go back to twenty nineteen, that's when they took Tristan 88 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Hill in round in round two. They also took Connor McGovern, 89 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: the guard in round three. He finally got on the 90 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: field last year. For him taking the twenty eighteen Connor 91 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: Williams was your second round pick, Michael Gallup your third 92 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: round pick. We've seen Gallup have an excellent career with 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and Carter Williams has started a lot of games, 94 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's going to get a 95 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: second contract. When you start to think about what they 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: do with his position, I think he's been He's been 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: a decent pick. He hasn't been a Pro Bowl pick. 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: And then I go back to twenty seventeen and you 99 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: look at Cheeto A Woozier who was taking in the 100 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: second round of the draft. Cheeto is now remember the 101 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. They didn't give him a new deal, and 102 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: you did see George Lewis their third round pick. George 103 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: Lewis just signed an contract with the Cowboys, so they've 104 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: got to improve in this area. So we're basically talking 105 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: about here one, two, three, and then last year four drafts, 106 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: Nevil Galliman was taken in third rounds the defensive line 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. I think he is a player who can 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: help the Cowboys. I see him as a rotational player 109 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: or the defensive line. But they've got to start hitting 110 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: here and hitting at a better clip. So while Thursday 111 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be exciting, it's gonna be the first round 112 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: because that's by the way of case. Some folks don't understand. 113 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: The first round is third. Oh, it's just the first round. 114 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: On Friday, it's rounds two through three. And this is 115 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys, in my opinion, really need to hit 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: on these picks. And this is where I trust a 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: guy like Will McClay and hopefully they listen to Will 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: McClay because Barry, the way things work around with the Cowboys, 119 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot they Jerry Jones takes a lot of 120 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: different opinions. No, he consulted the t to a lot 121 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: of people. So is dan quinn gonna make the pick 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: if the player is a defensive player or is it 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: the position coach. Is it going to be Mike McCarthy, 124 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: Will it be Will McClay, will it be whoever Jerry 125 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: or Stephen wants. I mean, that's gonna be an interesting 126 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: thing when it comes down to where did they go? 127 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: And as you in my opinion, we started looking at 128 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: this rounds two or three. People got pet cats man, 129 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: and they may decide, well, I want this, I want that, 130 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: And that's gonna be real interesting. Had somebody asked me 131 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: on Twitter today about Mike McCarthy and did they think 132 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy would be making a defensive pick, like, hey, 133 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: which about j C. Horne's Like, hey, because he knew 134 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: his dad? Because it came out on that video on 135 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com with the interview jac Horne when 136 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy was coaching down in New Orleans. Hey, do you 137 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: think he'd go with jac Horn? Because he knew his dad? 138 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I don't think that Mike McCarthy 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: is the guy I would lean on if from listening 140 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: to Jerry's press conference, he spoke that Dan Quinn was 141 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: going to have a major set. So if j. C. 142 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: Horne is on the board, the Cowboys are making the 143 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: choice I would be talking to one Will McClay and 144 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: the scouts. Okay, I want to talk to the scouts 145 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: because they've done a lot of the work on it. 146 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: And then I would ask Dan when what would he 147 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: want to do? McCarthy be the last guy that I'd 148 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: sit around here and ask about the defensive player, I 149 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: mean low and behold. Let's remember Mike McCarthy was the 150 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: guy who was the offensive coordinator of San Francisco when 151 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: they had the number one pick in the draft and said, 152 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: let's take Alex Smith over Aaron Rod. You know, I 153 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad, but I don't understand what Aaron too. 154 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: But stop long, guys go overall. Fame is gonna fall 155 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: of fame. The guys, well, I he didn't have that 156 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: bad of a career. Bulloo overall, I think, and I've 157 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: said this for a long time. I've said this for 158 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: a long time. This draft is gonna put immense pressure 159 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: on Will because you know, we got the deal done 160 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, and I think everybody's happy about how 161 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: the deal worked out. We got a little bit of 162 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: extra caps face for that first year, but the next 163 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: couple of years, I mean, he's gonna eat a lot 164 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: of that cap space. And where we're gonna have to 165 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: find defensively is we're gonna have to find these guys, 166 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: like we said in a second, third, fourth round, to 167 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: add depth to this defense. And that's where Will McClay 168 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: and Dan quinn I think they have to come together 169 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: and get put their brain powers and all the brain 170 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: trust together to pick a team or pick a player 171 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: that can help on help on day one, whether it 172 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: be you know, in a Nickel role or in some 173 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: type of you know, backup world or in the special teams. 174 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: They got to find a player defensively to help this 175 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: defense go along. So if so, when we're picking, like 176 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: you said, I'm with you on that McCarthy thing, I 177 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: don't think you know, we kind of we we look 178 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: at his what he thinks we should pick, But I 179 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: think I'm leaning towards Dan quinn and Will McClay one 180 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: because Dan this is his defense. Hopefully they make it 181 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: his defense, and the carpenter needs his tools. Like we've 182 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: always said, when he was with Seattle, he had the 183 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: Legion of Boom, he had cam, he had Earl Thomas, 184 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: Cliff Avril, all those boys over there, and he built 185 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: that legion of Boom defense and what he thought would 186 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: be a successful defense and then ended up being that way. 187 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: So if I'm him, if I'm Jerry, I'm going to 188 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: dan Quinn, what do you need? What tools do you 189 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: need to make this defense from one of the historically 190 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: bad defense to at least middle of the road. Like 191 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm not even asking for a top ten defense. I'm 192 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: not even asking for a legion of Boom style defense. 193 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: But I need him to get tools on this defense 194 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: to make it a middle of the road defense. Because 195 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: with the power we have offensively, with all that star 196 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: power Dac, those receivers, the running game, hopefully a healthy 197 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: offensive line, I think we will able to put up 198 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: points out there and we can have the ability to 199 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: be a top five, maybe even top three offense out there. 200 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: So our defense just has to be a middle of 201 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: the road. I'm leaning on Dan Quinn to make the 202 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: right plays here with the assistance of Will McClay, and 203 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: he has. Will McClay has hit on draft picks these 204 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: past couple of years. But this contract that we gave 205 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is putting a lot of pressure on Will 206 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll be able to come through for us. Look, 207 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: I think there's always pressure on anybody in scouting in 208 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: the National Football League because you're always trying to find 209 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: ways to improve your football team. My big question is 210 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: when it comes down to these picks, who do who 211 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: are you going to listen to? We saw where Rod 212 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Marinelli had major juice. I mean Rod Marinelli wanted Triston Hill. Okay, 213 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: he said I want this guy. And Chris Rashard is 214 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: in the room, and so many people like Dave Hellman 215 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: over Dallas Cowboys dot Com and that the guy's on 216 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: the draft show. We're like, hey, man, they need to 217 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: go take one thorn Hill to safety, and they didn't 218 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: do it. One thorn Hill ends up going to the 219 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, is part of a Super Bowl team 220 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: and he's been a starter there. And Triston Hill is 221 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: a guy coming off at ACL who has not lived 222 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: up to the billing. One of the issues that I 223 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: had with the whole Triston Hill thing was Rob Marionelli 224 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: was saying, hey, look, I'm gonna make a contract with 225 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: this guy. Basically a contract with this guy that this 226 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: guy's gonna go out here and play hard. Triston Hills 227 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: last year ucf he was benched. The new coaching staff 228 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: had issues with him, and he had issues with them. 229 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: And so this is a guy who was not starting 230 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: the year before under Scott Frost, he was starting. So 231 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys basically didn't listen to the current coaching staff 232 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: that was there. They went back to the other coaching 233 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: staff who told him what they wanted to hear. And 234 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: what at Tristan Hill become he was a problem. And 235 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: that's where you just say, man, I don't know. I'll 236 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: give Rob Marinelli credit on this when he's the one 237 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: who want to Lake Vanderesh. I thought they should take 238 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: in the linebacker around Alabama, but they took lake Vanderesh. 239 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: He made the Pro Bowl. Rob Marinelli was also the 240 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: guy who said I want Taco Charlton. T J. Watt 241 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: was a better football player at the Big Ten, and 242 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: we've seen t J. Watters become an All Pro football player. 243 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: But they were listening to Rod Marinelli. So that's my 244 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: thing is just do you want to listen to your coaches, 245 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: you want to listen to the scout, listen to the 246 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: people who do this all the time. That's gonna be 247 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: an interesting question. Let me ask you a question, do 248 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: you think it comes down to who has more juice 249 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: in the room. Like Marionelli came in, he has this 250 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: huge pedigree of being one of the best defensive minds 251 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: in football. He's been in a part of the NFL 252 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: for twenty some years. He's a part of the Cowboys, 253 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: And do you think it was he Look, this guy 254 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: has all the experience, he should know who to pick. 255 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: And in a situation we got now, do you think 256 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: they would lean towards dan Quinn in that situation like 257 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: this is a new guy coming in. He needs to 258 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: get his defense in the right situation. He's to get 259 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: all the tools he can get to get them most 260 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: out of this defense. Do you think they lean on 261 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: him like they did Marinelli? Or do you think, Hey, 262 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, McCarthy got the juice right now, he's the 263 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: head coach. He's gonna pick who he wants to pick. 264 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they lean towards the defensive side with 265 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: the with um dan Quinn when they go to pick 266 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: like they did with Marinelli. But I just want to know, 267 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: do you think it's who has more juice in the room, 268 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Because on the offensive side of the on the offensive 269 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: side of the coordination or whatever it is. I think 270 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: it was Marinelli and who was our OC was it? 271 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: It was? It was Lenahan at the time, I believe, 272 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: and I just think, you know, marion Nelli had a 273 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: little bit more juice. Do you think that has anything 274 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: to do with who they lean on as far as picking, 275 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: I've always heard it's who talked to Jerry last That's 276 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: the thing I've heard through the years that was kind 277 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: of be the way it went. But here's from talking 278 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: to many people through covering football for so many years. 279 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: Here this has just been my take. Coaches are going 280 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: to look at what fits for me now, because coaches 281 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: know they're like a milk carton many expiration day. You 282 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: know they're here to win now. If you're Mike McCarthy, 283 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: if you're Dan Quinn, you need to win now. If 284 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: you're Dan Quinn, if you can turn this Cowboys defense 285 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: around real quick, you know what happens for you next year. 286 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: You might be back hiring sys right this So dan 287 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: Quinn is going to try to find somebody that he 288 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: wants right now. If I'm Will McClay, I'm not looking 289 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: here at that now. I'm looking here at the next 290 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: two to three years, two to three to four years, 291 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: so they look at things differently. I go back to 292 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: when Wade Phillips was the head coach and on the 293 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: board I was told was an excellent linebacker Navarro Bowman. Well, 294 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: they because they passed on him because Wade had brought 295 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: in Keith Brooking, a player he had known, and so 296 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I got Brooking. So we had Brady 297 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: James and Keith Brooking. Those are the linebackers here, and 298 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys made a mistake. They should have taken Navarro Bowman, 299 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: and Bowman would have been an excellent choice to replace 300 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: Keith Brooking because Keith Brooking's career here was it was 301 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: on the down slide. He wasn't what he was with 302 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. But that goes back to when you 303 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: start to have your coaches pick players. People don't ever 304 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: talk about how Bill Parcels wanted Bobby Carpenter. That's the 305 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: guy he wanted. Bobby Carpenter was terrible, he was he 306 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: was never a good football player here, and that was 307 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: a guy that Bill wanted. I remember another player. I 308 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: gotta go back here and check my notes here. I 309 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: want to say it was Al Johnson that they allowed 310 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels to take because they took Terence Newman one year, 311 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: and so Bill didn't want Terence Newman the corner and 312 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: so they basically said, all right, you get to go 313 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: ahead and pick the pick the second round pickings. So 314 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: he took Al Johnson, a center out of Wisconsin. Well, 315 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Al ended up getting hurt his rookie year, and Andre 316 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Girard went from guard to center, and Andrea had an 317 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: excellent career as a center for the Dallas Cowboys. Andrea 318 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: also played guard and center at Colorado on their Big 319 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: Twelve championship team. So here's a guy that position flex 320 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: and center was really his best position. So Al Johnson 321 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: became a guy who really was they did. I think 322 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: they moved into Arizona. But he didn't do anything here. 323 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: But this is what happens when you allow your coaches 324 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: to pick players, they pick the guys that they want 325 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: right here. Now, scouts usually tend to look towards the 326 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: future and building a football team. I mean, let's let's 327 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: look who Dan quinn brought in already this year. He 328 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: brought in you know, Demante Kyz and Keyan O'Neill who 329 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: played for him in the past in Atlanta. And look, 330 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think that Keyan O'Neill was a solid 331 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: I think it was a solid free agent get just 332 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: if they leave him in that hybrid linebacker rule, I 333 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: think it's a solid free agent fit. But let's not 334 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, mistake it for you know, Cam Chancellor or 335 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: anything like that. And if we bring in Kaz who's 336 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: coming off a tourn Achilles, and trust me, I've been 337 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: through it. When you go through Achilles, it's that year 338 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: one year one is the toughest to come back from. 339 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: So it's tough to me who you lean on in 340 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: these situations because those two, those two free agent you 341 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: know gets that we got right there. You know, I 342 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: don't know if they're the best situation for us. We 343 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: had Malie Cooker who's also coming off and Achilles as well, 344 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: but when we had other safety options out there, but 345 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: he decided to go with guys he knew like you 346 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: had just mentioned. So we'll see, we'll see. I mean, 347 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: the jury is still out to me on dan Quinn, 348 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: but hopefully he can come through and pick us up 349 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: some great defensive assistance out there. Now, I raised my hand. 350 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: I was beating the drum saying bringing some players and 351 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: some coaches that dan Quinn knows, people that understand the system, 352 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: guys who can help teach the system. So I don't 353 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: have a problem with that. And then you look at 354 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: the deals that these guys got, I mean, they're not 355 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: these multi year contracts gonna tie to cows That's true. 356 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: So the team right, right, So so I don't have 357 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: an issue with that. And there is something to be 358 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: said for getting the right type of players that he wants. 359 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, so the Cowboys scouts did their job. They 360 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: went to dan Quinn and said, what kind of guys 361 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: do you want? You know, what am I looking for 362 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: in a corner? What am I looking for a d tackle? 363 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: What am I looking for at an outside linebacker? So 364 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: hopefully they've got the blueprint from him on what he 365 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: wants for the defense, and you try to marry it together. 366 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: But you better believe there's gonna be times when the 367 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: coach says I want this guy and a scout says, 368 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: I believe that this guy's better. So how do you 369 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: do how do you settle the how do you settle 370 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: the ties? And recently we've seen Jerry Jones has gone 371 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: to his coordinators and position coaches to make the call 372 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: on these decisions. And my just thing was, I thought 373 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli. I thought Rod Marinelli liked try hard guys 374 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: to a detriment. When I think about Rod Marinelli, how 375 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: did Rod Marinelli get famous or how did he get 376 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: known to most people? It was because of the work 377 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: that they did in Tampa. Beck Well, when Rob Marionelli 378 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: was here, the Cowboys never used the first round pick 379 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: on a defensive blind me. That wasn't what they did 380 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: when he was the coordinator because he basically shot him 381 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: away from that. But in Tampa he had Warren Sapp 382 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: first round pick, Yeah, Booker McFarland first round pick, Yeah, 383 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: Simeon Rice first round pick. If you want to run 384 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: a simple books right, So, if you run a simple scheme, 385 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot easier when you have first round picks 386 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: and great players doing it. You can only have so 387 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: many try hard guys. I go back to that game 388 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: at the La Colle scene when they played the Rams 389 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: and the Rams just ran through room. Uh you know, 390 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: just two guys right up for one hundred yards in 391 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: that game and up the middle they were just too small. 392 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: And Rod Marinelli, in my opinions where the cowboys, somebody 393 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: should have stepped in and say, hey, man, look we 394 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: need to get us some bigger guys. This is where 395 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: I was happy to hear Mike McCarthy at this press 396 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: conference a couple of weeks back say hey, look, you 397 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: can't have enough guys that are that are six six 398 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: two seventy five. So he wants some beef up front. 399 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan wanted some beef up front too. They just 400 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: got the wrong beef. But so so that's that's that great. 401 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: That's the great challenge of managing a draft room and 402 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: and seeing how you make that all work. So everybody's 403 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: got away. They want to do business. I wish we 404 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: could talk to dan Quinn, man, I really do to 405 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: fare out a little bit more about what do you want? 406 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: That's what we need. That's the question. That's the million 407 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: dollar question right there. We need to know what is 408 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: in dan Quinn's mind. What is he thinking as far 409 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: as the identity for this defense? Is it going to 410 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: be more how they Seattle style? Where it wasn't you know, 411 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: traveling corners. It wasn't in a lot of lockdown, man, 412 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: It was a lot of zone keeping your eyes on 413 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback. They had a great front four that can 414 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: get after the quarterback, and I'm not sure we have 415 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: that here in Dallas. So I don't I don't know 416 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: what the identity is. But if we did, we can 417 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: have a better solution on what angle this team is 418 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: going for because and that's what we'll talk about it 419 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: a little bit later. But that's why I love certain 420 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: at that pick, because he's multifaceted at the corner. He 421 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: could be that man, he could be that that zone guy. 422 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: He can fit any scheme. But that's why I love him. 423 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: But that's the million dollar question, Nui. What is the 424 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: identity of this defense gonna be? Because right now, I 425 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: don't know if he has his tools to bring that 426 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: simple style defense that made it so popular in Seattle 427 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: down here. I don't know if he has the tools 428 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: and his defense has the tools to withstand. I mean, 429 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: I just don't know, and I'm not sure about that. 430 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: But we do know one thing's for sure. If we 431 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: go out there with that same multiple scheme type of 432 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: defense that Mike Nolan tried to put out there, we're 433 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna get run out of the stadium each and every game. 434 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: So please don't go out there and have guys standing 435 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: up this way, he blitzed in that way. Just make 436 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: it to where these gays can get the most production 437 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: out of their defense, and hopefully dan Quink can bring that. 438 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break here on the Players Lounge, 439 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: brought to you by Hotels dot Com. When we come back, 440 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: what name if this name is called on draft day, 441 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: what's the name of the player that will make you 442 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: scream in frustration at number ten. I'll give you my name, Church. 443 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: I want you to give me your name of the 444 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: player that will make you scream if the Cowboys take 445 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: him at the tenth overall pick in Thursday's traft. 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Register today at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Academy. 483 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: You're in the players louds right here on at Dallas 484 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. Rady up and we scutched. The long 485 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: time Cowboys reporter joined by former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry 486 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: Church or other running buddy. Danny mccrai is on assignment. 487 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: All right. Thursday night, Cowboys are picking ten. If they 488 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: called this one player, I will scream Michael Parsons linebacker 489 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: penns Day, Yeah, I don't you don't like that? Folly 490 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: three linebacker. You don't like that he's running fully three nine, 491 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: he got the speed sideline, the sideline. You ain't liking that. No, No, 492 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: I am not. I am not, not not at ten, 493 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: not at ten. Um, go ahead and if you possibly okay, 494 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not for sure, but you possibly can go 495 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: ahead and trade down and get that guy fifteen. And 496 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: so if you could trade, if you can get somebody 497 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: to come to ten for a quarterback and give you 498 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: a number one picked down the road, and if you 499 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: want to take Parsons later on, fine, But if you 500 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: sit there at ten and take Michael Parsons, I'd like 501 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Now we have seen the tenth pick be in play 502 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to the draft. The Kansas City Chiefs 503 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: went for twenty seven to ten to take Patrick Mahomes 504 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: had to give up a number one. We saw a 505 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: couple of years ago where the Cardinals jumped up a 506 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: few spots to go to ten to take Josh Rosen. 507 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I personally don't feel like quarterbacks 508 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: are gonna go one two three four like some people 509 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: are saying. I do believe they'll go one, two three. 510 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: So I think that you could see a quarterback in 511 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: play at ten. Obviously, it depends on what Denver does 512 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: at nine and maybe what Carolina does at eight. But 513 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys at ten could could trade back 514 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: and if let's say Denver or Detroit or Carolina takes 515 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: Patrick's or ten, if they takes ten, then yeah, you know, 516 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: there's a question you gotta you gotta ask yourself. But 517 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: I just don't see Michael Parsons at ten. I think 518 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: that's a play that you can get later on down 519 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: the road in this draft. And if you you pick 520 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: up a one and still get that player, I would 521 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: I could live with that, But just ten ten Church, 522 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about ten. Yeah, he right, it's a 523 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: little it's a little high for Parsons. I mean, he is, 524 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, a playmaking linebacker out there, Um, you know 525 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Silad and sign a lit of type guy he can 526 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: cover well. But if we get that guy, then you know, 527 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with Jalen? You got Kean O'Neill, 528 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: who's basically the same type of player, hybrid linebacker type deal. 529 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: So I just don't know what you would do with 530 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: Parsons there at ten. So I can agree with that 531 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: for me, the player that that I think would make 532 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: me scream if we ended up picking him. And let 533 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: me preface this by saying this, I don't think he 534 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: would get to this to ten. I think he'll be 535 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: gone before then because I think the Bengals will end 536 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: up snagging them up because you know, they need some 537 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: protection for Joe Burrow out there because he got his 538 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: butt kicked last year. So I don't think this player 539 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: will slide that far. But if he does. If he 540 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: does and we end up picking this player up, I 541 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: would scream personally, uh, and the player, I'm gonna say, 542 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: it's if I don't. If I don't his name, I'm sorry, 543 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: Panay Sul, Did I say that? Right? All right? So 544 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: I would screened if we picked this player. And I'm 545 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: gonna tell you why, because I'm one of the guys, 546 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: one of the few guys that believe Tyrn Smith is 547 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: gonna come back and he's gonna go back into that 548 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: old mode. I think he's gonna come back and be 549 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: one of the top tackles in the game, even though 550 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: he's dealt with a lot of injuries in the past, 551 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: but he missed a lot of games last year. With 552 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: these injuries, He's got time to rest up. I think 553 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: he's on a mission to come back and kind of 554 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: reclaim his throne as being one of the top tackles 555 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: in the game. And then you have Lyell Collins over 556 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: there on the right side. Now, he was injured as well. 557 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: He was injured as well, he had surgery in the 558 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: off season, But I believe he'll be able to come 559 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: back and help this this offensive line get back to 560 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: where they were now. If it's saying that, if saying 561 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: that you know these two guys are gonna be healthy, 562 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, what do you do with sul at that point? 563 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: You know you just wasted the first round draft pick 564 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: on the guy that's gonna sit behind and maybe you 565 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: know in the future he'll be that guy. But I'm 566 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: talking about right now because I believe this whole organization. 567 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: I believe Jerry wants to win right now. So for me, 568 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: I think if we went that round and had that guy, 569 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: you know, a kind of a swing tackle back up 570 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: for a while until tiring and them got up out 571 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: of there, I think that's wasting the pick and I 572 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: think it would scream. I think I would scream just 573 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: knowing that we could have had somebody, especially if certain 574 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: and all those corners are available at ten, I would 575 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: scream knowing we had a blue chip an opportunity to 576 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: get a blue chip prospect at that corner position to 577 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: help out this young secondary and help out this defense overall, 578 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: and instead we went with a tackle who will probably 579 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: sit behind you know, Tyren Smith and Laole Collins for 580 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: the first year or two. So for me, I would 581 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna say even any offensive pick in 582 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: the first round would make me scream. And I'm a 583 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: little biased because you know, I'm a defensive guy and 584 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: I believe defenses win championships, so I'm a little bias 585 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: in that regard. But overall, if we if we go 586 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: any offensive route in the first round, I think I'm 587 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and scream. And who knows, I might 588 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: not even watch the rest of the draft. We'll see. 589 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight you on 590 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: this one. Okay, I'm gonna fight you on the first off. 591 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: I've said it before on social media. I'll say it again. Pinay, 592 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Soul is not going to get past five, Okay, Atlantic 593 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: will tim Yeah, yeah, this is hypothetically. I don't believe 594 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: he'll get past So if if Piney Soul is it ten, 595 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: that means that he had that Laramie tubsul gas mask, 596 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: smoking weed and it's something bad happened. If he's sitting 597 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: here at ten for the Canadas, but they off the weed. 598 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: But but but but And talking to a couple of 599 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: scouting buddies of mine, I said, give me a comp 600 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: for Pinay Soul. Could I compare him to Jonathan oct 601 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: And one of the people I trust said, that's pretty good. 602 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: John Octon him was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens top 603 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: five picks, started at guard because they had big Zeus 604 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: Brown on the left tackle, and then they ended up 605 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: they ended up moving Jonathan to left tackle. He had 606 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career, was a building block on 607 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: one of their Super Bull teams, pay Seul. If you 608 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: talk to people, they believe he's that type of talent, 609 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: that he's a really blue chip player and a better 610 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: player coming out of the pack twelve than Tyron Smith was. 611 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: And Tyron Smith is an all decade player who's building 612 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame resume himself. That is the kind 613 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: of player that you could be getting at Penay Soul, 614 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: which is why I say he will not be there 615 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: at tent Okay. But so so if you told me 616 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: you ended up having Penay's Seul start at guard and 617 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: the healthy Tyrn Smith is at tackle, okay, I'll take that, yeah, 618 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: because then you might have Ezekiel Ellit with the ability 619 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: to lead the league of rushing one more time. I mean, 620 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: that's the kind of player he is. But I go 621 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: back to what I said before, angle beat him. Angle 622 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: beat it because Atlanta and Cincinnati could both use that play. 623 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: So I don't see that player there at all. And 624 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: then when you talked about Kyle Pitts, um the way 625 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: people have pumped up his tape, the way people have 626 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: talked about it, even the video conference. If you haven't 627 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: looked on Dallas Cowboys dot com, they've got a lot 628 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: of the great interviews with the players like pats Or 629 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: Tan and J. C. Horne, Trayvon Morig and Kyle Pitts, 630 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: guys that they've interviewed. Here there's another player who's so 631 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: good at what he does and is a true blue 632 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: chit prospect. What arguably, you know you talk about stacking 633 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: your board. One of the top five talents in the game. 634 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: They're not gonna get to ten. That they're just not 635 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, they're not. You don't think there's a chance, Kyle, 636 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: So so who do you? Because I think, all right, 637 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: so maybe Atlanta, maybe Atlanta my grabbing, you know, maybe Carolina. 638 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: Other than that, Okay, like you got Miami there, But 639 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, man, I don't know. I 640 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: can see a scenario in which he could slide down there. Okay, 641 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: So let's say Atlanta. All right, Let's say Atlanta says 642 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna go Kyle Pitts and try and do the 643 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: whole Tony Gonzalez Matt Ryan deal. So Pitts is at 644 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: four souls at five, these guys never get to ten. 645 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: Say yeah for me, Suel definitely, I don't think he. 646 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna make it at all. There's 647 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I think there's no way in 648 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: hell he would drop down to ten. I was just 649 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: doing it hypothetaly. But Pitts, I think there's a there's 650 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity. I think there's an opportunity that he would 651 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: slide there. And I would scream if we ended up 652 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: taking him. Okay, I'll give you the drop point where 653 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: I think the cutoff point for Pitts, in my opinion 654 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: is six to Miami. And I go back to what 655 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: we said on a previous show. Who's the head coach there, 656 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Brian Flores. Brian Flores, former linebacker for former defensive coordinator 657 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: and a linebacker coach in New England. As the linebacker coach, 658 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: what did he line up against during his tenure there? 659 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Ronk Gronk, Aaron Hernandez. This guy saw what difference making 660 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: tight ends can do. So if you're talking about helping 661 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: to a tug of byloa, you can. And I know 662 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: they got Mike Jesseki there, but Mike Jesseeski and Kyle Pitts, 663 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: and you could conceivably put those two guys out there 664 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: if you wanted to. But I see that as the 665 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: floor where Miami snatches that guy up right there, and 666 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: it helps too. And even if two is that their 667 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: long term quarterback, it'll help the next quarterback. So to me, 668 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: when you talk about four or five, six, I've got 669 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: Pits and Sewell being the I got these guys going 670 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: between four or five and six. That's where I see 671 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: him at. So I never see these guys getting to 672 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys attent. And when Jerry talks about sugar plums, yeah, 673 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: he's dreaming because they're not. They're too talented not to 674 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: be there. We say that. But okay, let me push 675 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: back a little bit on the Miami situation. You don't 676 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: think they You don't think they would say, all right, 677 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: let me look at DeVante Smith, former teammate of two 678 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: of they did great numbers together down in Alabama. This 679 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: guy's coming in. They have an opportunity to boost their 680 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: offense with another playmaking receiver out there, to go to 681 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: go opposite a Parker you got, you already got Jaseki 682 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: there at the tight end position. You don't think they 683 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: want to boost their wide receiver corps rather than take 684 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: a Kyle Pitts in that spot, and that kind of 685 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: that can push them further down the line. If they 686 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: don't take him there, that pushes them further down the line. 687 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: And I we're talking seven picks, seven, eight and nine, 688 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: and then yeah, I don't know, I don't know, he 689 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: might he might have an opportunity to slide down there. Louis, 690 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: I go back to something you and I spoke about 691 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: earlier on the Players Lounge, and we started talking about 692 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: just our top four you know, wide receivers that we like, 693 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, the top four guys in the game. And 694 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: one of them that we mentioned was DeVante DeVante Adams 695 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: a Green Band second round pick. We mentioned DeAndre Hawkins 696 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: number one pick, we mentioned Julio Jones number one pick, 697 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: and then we mentioned Stepan Dicks a second round pick. 698 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: You can go get a second round guy who could 699 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: have the ability to be a Pro Bowl, All Pro receiver. Mean, 700 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is the Saints. Another one from what people 701 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: who scout this game are saying is that Kyle Pitts 702 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: is that guy in terms of his position. That you 703 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: can't find another Kyle Pitts in round two, as you 704 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna find a Travis Kelsey like in round three, 705 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: like a Kyle Pitts is but they're saying he's so 706 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: much better than Travis Kelsey. So I just think if 707 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: I'm Miami, i would take Kyle Pitts and then I'll 708 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: just try to find another wide receiver in another round. 709 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: And maybe this receiver is deemed on height, weight, whatever, 710 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: but I'll go ahead and take what seems to be 711 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: the most polished prospect at this position to come into 712 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: the National Football League in a minute. So that's what 713 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: I would do. And Mike Jisecki, he's a nice player, 714 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, Mike Jisecki's not on some Pro Bowl teams. 715 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: He's not all pro. He's not Travis Kelsey. You know, 716 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's not put him. You know, let's 717 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: not you know, he's a nice player for what they do. 718 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: But dudes ain't drawing up game plan saying stop Mike Jasecki. 719 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: You know it might just say help them. You know, 720 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: he could help. You know, he could be the Aaron Hernandez, 721 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: but Kyle Pitts would be the GROUNK. So um, I 722 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: just look at that, is that this is the way 723 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: you can help supplement your football team. What they did 724 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. He've got camera break, but they also 725 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: had O Jay Howard, so they had two good tight 726 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: ends there. So I would I just don't think that 727 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: it has to be, Hey, we got Mike Jazeki, so 728 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: we can't look at Kyle Pitts. I don't look at 729 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: him that way. I think he's a good football player, 730 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: but he's definitely not the kind of guy that I 731 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: would say no to if I'm in a position like Miami, 732 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: and I want to add pieces to help the quarterback. 733 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: I can see that because you know, overall, I don't 734 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: look at him as basically just a tight end. You know, 735 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: I look at Kyle Pitts as an offensive weapon. You know, yes, 736 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: he lined up he had you know, he lined up 737 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: as an in line tight end. He lines up as 738 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: a big slot. He lines up on the outside. I've 739 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: seen him go against jac Horne when Alabama played South 740 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: Carolina and he was going he was battling him at 741 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: the outside receiver. So to me, I looked at Kyle 742 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: Pitts as an offensive weapon. And if what everybody's out 743 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: there saying is correct, he can be this generational guy. 744 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: He has a longer wingspan and a bigger catch radius 745 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: than Megatron himself. Then you know, I can't really see. 746 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't fault Miami for passing up on a 747 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: guy like that, because if he's that great, it has 748 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: that much rational talent, and just he can he can 749 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: change a franchise like that, then he wouldn't fall down, 750 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: he wouldn't fall at all. And maybe even Atlanta scoops 751 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: him up. But we shall see, we shall see. So 752 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: so so bring me this this no soon as than 753 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: you said. It brought me back to this point as 754 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: championship can't. When you were playing with Jacksonville, you went 755 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: against Grunt and we talked about, you know, a guy 756 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: in the red zone and what Grunt was able to 757 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: do and then grown six foot seven, Kyle Pits six 758 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: foot six, So what is it like guarding someone that 759 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: big that you know is a red zone weapon. Well, 760 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: see Grant. See Grant was a different animal because he 761 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: never and I think he would be easier to guard, 762 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: at least until the point of you know, the point 763 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: of attack when you have to jump up with the ball, 764 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: because he didn't have a lot of moves off the line. 765 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: He didn't have that fast twitch muscle. He wasn't giving 766 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: you a lot of shakes. He was basically just using 767 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: his brute force. So as soon as he got off 768 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, if you got your hands on him, 769 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: you could pretty much ride him out the way. Now, 770 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: when it got to the when the balls in the air, 771 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: that's when it became a whole totally different because this 772 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: guy can out jump anybody, and he just used his 773 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: body and strength in ways that I've never seen anybody before. 774 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: So I think he'd be a little bit easier to 775 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 1: guard out in the field than a Kyle Pitts because 776 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts from the tape I've seen, I mean, this 777 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: guy has so much wiggle you would you would think 778 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: he was a slot receiver. He got wiggled like Travis Kelsey, 779 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: but he's faster, has a bigger catch radius. It's it's 780 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: kind of a it's like you said, he's an offensive weapon. 781 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: So I think in the field of play, he'd be 782 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: harder to guard than a Gronkowski. But when it comes 783 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: down to that red zone, Gronkowski just used his body 784 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: so much and he would just go over top of 785 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: anybody's safety, linebackers, corners if you weren't double covering them. 786 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it was, it was. It was hard to 787 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: keep him away from the football once you got into 788 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: that red zone, similar to Calvin Johnson. And that's where 789 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: I can see Kyle Pitts a little bit because because 790 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson didn't have a lot of wiggle, but once 791 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: he got to that boy in that point of attack, 792 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: it was hard to stop him from getting the balls. 793 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: So I'm just being a lawyer. I just asked you 794 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: a question. You just told me Kyle Pitts has the 795 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: ability to be a weapon. That Rob Gronkowski a guy 796 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: who's built together a Hall of Fame resume, and so 797 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: based on that, that doesn't get to ten, that does 798 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: not slide well, doesn't get hypothetical zeal doesn't slide to 799 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: ten at all. Okay, So stay with Kyle Pitts and 800 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: something that he was asked and I would think it 801 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: was Al Harris who asked him. In the video chat 802 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: you can check it out over Dallas Cowboys dot com 803 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: where they interviewed J. C. Horne, they interviewed Kyle Pitts 804 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: and they said, who's the best corner you went up against? 805 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: And pitt said it was jac Horn, the corner from 806 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: South Carolina. And right now, most draft experts and most 807 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: people who who cover the National Football League or thinking 808 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: Patrick s Utan or jac Horne to the Cowboys. So 809 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: when you hear Kyle Pitts say, hey, J C. Horne 810 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: was the guy, what do you what are you? What 811 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: are you thinking? I'm thinking because they're two different styles 812 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: of corners. Um, I feel like j. Jac Horn might 813 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: have been a tougher matchup for for Kyle Pitts because 814 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: he thrives in that man to man. Let me press 815 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: you at the line of scrimmage. You're gonna get this 816 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: all day. And that's what he did. When they win 817 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: against each other, he pressed him. He battled at the 818 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You know, Kyle Pitts won some. Jac 819 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: Horn won some, but he battled him throughout the whole 820 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: entire game. And then when you look at a guy 821 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: like sur Tam, if you're a team that just is 822 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: constricted strictly man to man, they just that's all they do. 823 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: They lock up single high, everybody else is locked up 824 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: across the board. Then you gotta go that jac Horn route. 825 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: But the reason I go certain is I think he's 826 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: a multifaceted corner. He got many tools out there. He 827 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: might not be as great a man the man as 828 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: jac Horn is, but he's still a good man the 829 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: man corner. So let's just not say he's trash at 830 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: man to man. He might be, you know, jac Horns 831 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: one A, he's one B. But when it comes to 832 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: everything else, I'm talking about the run game, I'm talking 833 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: about zone coverage, getting your hands on the football. I 834 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: think he gets a little bit of step above over J. C. Horne. 835 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: And that's why I take him over Horn in the 836 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: long haul, because Horn may be that great physical man, 837 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: the man shut you down. Hey, coach, I'm coming in 838 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: film room. Who I got today? I'm locking him down? 839 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: All right, I'll see you guys on the practice field. 840 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: He's that tunnel vision locked in tight corner. Whereas you 841 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: look at Sir Tan, you could do so much more 842 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: with him. You can leave him on anough, sad tight 843 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: end because you know he has that run support in there, 844 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: because a lot of a lot of teams nowadays, they'll 845 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: try to leave that corner on an island on the 846 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: enough said, where it is just a tight end, and 847 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: they'll run straight at him because a lot of corners 848 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: they want to make business decisions out here and they're 849 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: not looking to tackle, you know, Josh Jacobs running down 850 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: or Derrick Henry running down. But I can see Sir 851 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: Tan doing that, and that's why I kind of take 852 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: him above JC Horn. He might not be as great 853 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: of a a man the man corner, but he does everything 854 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: else at such a high clip, and I think he's 855 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: the guy that we need to go ahead and take. 856 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: All right, here's where I rely on your expertise of 857 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: the National Football League, with what we know about dan 858 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: Quinn and what he ran in Atlanta and what he 859 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: ran in Seattle, who is the better fit for the scheme? 860 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,959 Speaker 1: Patrick's R Tanner without a doubt. I'm saying certain because 861 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 1: in a lot of gang Quinn's defenses, unless he's going 862 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: against a guy like Megatron or something where they gotta 863 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: had that best guy on him, they don't travel a lot. 864 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: You didn't see Richard Sherman, you know, traveling with the 865 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: best receiver. He stayed on his right side. Brandon Browner 866 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 1: stayed on his left side. And that's how they worked 867 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: in a dan Quinn system, and they ran a lot 868 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: of cover three where the corner wasn't specifically locked on 869 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: that outside ride receiver. He had to keep his eyes 870 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. He had to keep his eyes on 871 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: other four mate or other routes coming into his zone. 872 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's what I would lean on as 873 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: a guy that has such or so many tools out there. 874 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: He can help you in the run, he can help 875 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: you in the zone coverage, and he can help you 876 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: in man to man as well. Whereas JC Horn, I 877 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: think is a lot better in man to man than 878 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: he is at zone. And I just believe that, you know, 879 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: with the pedocreas Certain has, I think he would fit 880 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: perfectly with a dan Quinn system, and that's the route 881 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 1: I'm going with it. I mean, we see, we see 882 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: with Richard Sherman was able to do in his legion 883 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: of boom defense. I think Certain has that same tool 884 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: set but a little bit even more athleticism. And I 885 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: think he'd beat that perfect pick at number ten for 886 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. NFL writer I follow on Twitter's Doug Ferrard. 887 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: He did excellent study on what he liked to call 888 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: the abuse of cornerbacks, and he was talking about teams 889 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: that took corners that just did not fit their scheme. 890 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: This is the worst thing you could do. And basically 891 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,919 Speaker 1: one of the things he talked about is, hey, if 892 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: you got a guy who plays man to man, don't 893 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: bring him into your defensive he's playing zone. You're not 894 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 1: going to get the best version of the football player. 895 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: Look at Mo Claiborne. Look at look at Mo Claiborne. 896 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: We brought Mo Claiborne in LSU man to man. He 897 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: won the Thorpe Award, and what he did best was 898 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: just lock up on guys. Hey mo, you got this guy, 899 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: Hey mo, you got that guy. And we brought him 900 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: into this Marinelli system where it was mostly his own. 901 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: We had him trying to chuck receivers and try to 902 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: get back and look and cover two and tackle running 903 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: backs in the flat and nothing to get his mo. 904 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: But that just wasn't his game. He was a lockdown, 905 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: man to man corner who did wanted nothing to do 906 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: with the run, nothing to do with zone. Let me 907 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: lock it on this guy. And we brought him in 908 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: there thinking, Okay, we can mold him into what we 909 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: want him to be, and it just didn't work out 910 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: that way. I mean, sometimes you gotta let a guy 911 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: do what he does best. And he played man and 912 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: man and we tried to mold him. And that's just 913 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: one example of how you I think you gotta gotta 914 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: you gotta pick, You gotta fit pick a player that 915 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: matches your scheme, not necessarily a player that's just great 916 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: at doing one specific thing. All right, So let me 917 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: take this a little bit further here. So you're the 918 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys and you get to ten. Let's say Patrick's or 919 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: tan is off the board. Now you have the opportunity 920 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: to take jac Horne. But based on what you said, 921 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: if they're not just gonna let Jac Horn go out 922 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: there play man and man, would the Cowboys be better 923 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: off looking at another player. Some people believe that Greg 924 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: Newsom is that number four cornerback or maybe even they drop, 925 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, they say, hey, we'll trade down a little 926 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: bit and maybe gamble on taking Caleb Farley. I mean, 927 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a fit here because what I 928 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: don't want to do is go bringing a guy like Horn. 929 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: If you say, hey, man, go play that man and 930 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: you mess it up. I remember when Nandi Oswa left 931 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders, just a big deal of Philadelphia. That thing 932 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,959 Speaker 1: was a disaster. He was an excellent man to man guy. 933 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: That three four defense that Rob Ryan was running. Went 934 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: up to that zone in Philadelphia, he didn't get it. 935 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: He wasn't good, and people said the guy couldn't play anymore. 936 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: And it was a total abuse of the Eagles and 937 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: that guy's talent. So if Horne's more man to man 938 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: is Greg Knwsom, the Northwestern possibly a better player, a 939 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: guy who could play zone. According to some of the 940 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: people I've spoken to, I'm gonna say it like this, 941 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: If Certan's not there, I think you got a trade back. 942 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: I think he got a trade back. And I say 943 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: that because to me, and like we've had this discussion 944 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: on earlier player Lounge shows, we like me and you 945 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: think the same as far as we gotta build a 946 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: defense from the front to the back. Now, if there 947 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: was that blue chip defensive lineman, if there was that 948 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: blue chip interior defensive lineman, I'm all in it. But 949 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't see any of those, especially in a Round one. 950 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't see any blue chip defensive line prospects that 951 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: could come in and be Day one contributors that can 952 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: go out there and make a difference for our defense. 953 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: But I do see one in the secondary, and that's 954 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: Patrick's just Tan not saying J. C. Horne is a player, 955 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 1: but I don't see him as that blue chick prospect 956 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: like Curtains. And then when you go to that that 957 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: that second level of defense, which is just a linebacker level, 958 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: do we have any blue chick prospects? You know, maybe 959 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: maybe Parsons. You know, he's a fast guy sideline the sideline, 960 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: can make plays and stuff, But other than that, I 961 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: don't really see a guy that sticks out that could 962 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: be that blue chip we need to get him at 963 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: ten other than certain and the secondary. So for me, 964 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: I would trade back if that situation came about where 965 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: it looks curtain's not there, depending on how sold they 966 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: are on JC Horn, I don't. I don't see a 967 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: scenario where if those two guys aren't there, that we 968 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: pick a you know, a defensive lineman or we pick 969 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: up Parsons. I think we trade back, get more picks 970 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: and get depth for this defense. If those guys aren't there, 971 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: if those blue chip prospects aren't there, all right, we 972 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: got to take a break in here. Could Jalen Smith 973 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: wear number nine next year? Guys can down. Guys can 974 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: now choose numbers. 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To 1017 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: see official rules and enter, now, go to Dallas Cowboys 1018 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: dot com Slash Draft Pick Challenge of New Scrugs. You 1019 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: are in the players lounge back to you by hotels 1020 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 1: dot com. Berry Church for Dallas Cowboys safety rolling along 1021 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: with me here or other running buddy is Danny mccraig, 1022 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: another former Cowboys safety. He is on assignment. All right, 1023 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: So Church Lake Banneresh, they've got until May third to 1024 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: decide to pick up his fifth year option. What do 1025 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: you do? This one's tough. This one's tough because overall 1026 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: this guy was I mean, his first year, he popped 1027 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: out on the scene and you were like, holy sall, 1028 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: who is this guy? Like? Who is this guy? But 1029 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: it's tough, man, because after that, I mean, these injuries 1030 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: and the injuries that he's had as a linebacker. Going 1031 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: in there and you got neck problems, it's it's hard. 1032 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be extremely hard to go in there and 1033 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: want to put your helmet and stick your head in 1034 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: there when you got those big linemen coming at you 1035 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 1: and running back to your pound and each and every play, 1036 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: subconsciously you want to go fullhead and go in there, 1037 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: but subconsciously you're always going to be trying to protect 1038 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: yourself and protect that neck area. So for me, it's 1039 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: tough because then you look at it. For the Cowboys perspective, 1040 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: you look, well, you know who we got. Who else 1041 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: do we got back there that can help? That can 1042 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: if we don't pick up this, where else do we turn? 1043 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: We don't have any depth back there? So for me, 1044 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: I think you gotta pick up his option. I think 1045 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: you gotta pick up his option. Even though he's had 1046 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: those health issues and all that. You just got to 1047 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 1: hope that he can have a healthy season this year 1048 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: and then maybe you address the need in the draft 1049 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: next year. But going forward, I think you gotta get 1050 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: that fifth year option, even though it's a risk. I 1051 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 1: think you gotta get it because there's nowhere left. There's 1052 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: nowhere left you can go. The depth is just not 1053 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: there for the Godallas Cowboys. So I think they backed 1054 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: themselves in the corner and they gotta go ahead and 1055 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: pick up that fifth year option. I'm with the one 1056 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent. What you do is his insurance. I mean, 1057 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have it here, what's the insurance? 1058 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: You don't have anything you have to backup, So you 1059 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and you pick up the fifth year option. 1060 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 1: So um two players who resigned this week as restricted 1061 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: free agent Antoine Woods two million dollars defensive lineman and 1062 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson White receiver who had seventeen catches, one hundred 1063 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: eighty nine yards and two touchdowns last year. He's back 1064 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: to on a one year deal. How you feeling about that? 1065 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: The Antoine Wood or the yeah, yeah, the Antwine Woods one. 1066 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: I like that as a pick. You know, he came 1067 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: in and I believe he had solid contributions to this defense. 1068 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: He's not going to be the guy that can get 1069 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: you high sack numbers or put his consistently pressure on 1070 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback and go out there, and he's not going 1071 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: to be that main focal point that offensive lineman. They 1072 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: gotta make sure they take care of Antoine Woods. But 1073 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 1: I believe he's a solid, solid piece of this defense 1074 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: and a solid rotational piece. He can come in and 1075 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: get guys breathers, and he's he has a skill setting 1076 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: a bit in an ability to be a factor against 1077 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: the run game, which we know we need all the 1078 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: help against the run game we need. So I think 1079 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: it was a solid resign for them to bring him 1080 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: back to add depth to that interior defensive line. I 1081 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: think we still do need some more because right now 1082 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: we've got Neville Gallimore, you got Tristan Hill coming off 1083 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: an ACL, so who knows where he will be at, 1084 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: even though he did start the season off last year 1085 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: having a pretty good season before he tours ACL, so 1086 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 1: we don't know where he'll be at. Neville Gallimore, I 1087 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: think is a star waiting to happen. I think if 1088 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: he can build upon last year's season, I think he 1089 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: can be someone that offenses have to make sure they 1090 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: take care of. And you bring in an Antoine Woods 1091 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 1: in there that can help get that depth piece when 1092 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: those guys need rest, and maybe we'll pick up some 1093 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: more in the draft. But I think overall, the Woods 1094 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: resigning was solid. The Cedric Wilson as well, I think, 1095 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: you know he contributed to this wide receiver corps. I 1096 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: mean we got a Stud Trio right there, and Gallup 1097 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: Cooper and Cedee Lamb. Now we're bringing a Said Wilson 1098 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: and the Noah Brown. Those guys come in, you know, 1099 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: you get breathers there, and we've seen those guys make 1100 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: big plays during the season in past years. So I 1101 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: believe both of these signings are solid high or solid signings. 1102 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: But I will have to lean towards Woods at being 1103 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: the better of the two. Signings. All right, the NFL 1104 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,240 Speaker 1: has approved number change. So if you are a quarterback, 1105 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: you can wear one through nineteen. If you're defensive back, 1106 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: you can wear one through forty nine. Offensive linemen can 1107 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: wear fifty through seventy nine. Running backs, tight ends, wide 1108 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: receivers can wear one through thirty nine, and they can 1109 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: also wear eighty through eighty nine, and then linebackers they 1110 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 1: can wear one through fifty nine and then ninety through 1111 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: ninety nine, and defensive linemen can wear fifty to seventy 1112 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: nine and they can wear ninety two ninety nine. Jalen 1113 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: Smith number nine next year? What do you think? Oh, 1114 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 1: they're gonna let him get away with that. They gonna 1115 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: so there's there's no way, you know, they're gonna let 1116 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 1: Romo's number get passed out like that. There's just no way. 1117 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: The Robo is the He's the prodible son of the 1118 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 1: Dallas Gudboys. There's no way. Don't let my boy, missus 1119 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: swiper Jalen Smith out there rock that number nine? Now? 1120 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: Do I think it will look sweet? Hell? Yeah, I 1121 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: think it will look sweet to have a linebacker in 1122 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: a single digit number. I wish this rule was changed. 1123 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: When I was playing, I had a fullback number. I 1124 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: had number forty two at the safety and I was 1125 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: sick I had that old fullback number. If I could 1126 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: go back and they had this rule change, I'd be 1127 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: single digits like I always was. High school, I was 1128 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: number eight, college, I was number eight. Now I'm at 1129 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: forty two when I was with the Cowboys. So I 1130 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: love the rule change. I love it, you know, I 1131 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: hope I hope these players take full advantage of it, Like, 1132 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: like you think that's sweet they have number one at 1133 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 1: the corner or number two at the safety position for 1134 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: these single digit linebackers, I think that looks sweet. And look, 1135 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm all for the rule change. Even though there's some 1136 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: players out there, some older players I ain't gonna say 1137 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: no names, guys in Tampa Bay maybe that hate this 1138 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: rule change and they don't know how to mike guys 1139 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: here and there. But I think it's a great change, 1140 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: and I think it'll look extremely sweet to see linebackers 1141 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: secondary guys in single digit numbers. So why receivers and 1142 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: single digit numbers. It'll bring me back to those high 1143 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: school in college days. And I think it's a great 1144 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 1: would change. Now. Dalvin Cook of the Minnesota Vikings currently 1145 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: wears number thirty three. At Florida State, he was number four, 1146 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 1: and he looked into it, thought about making a change. 1147 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: Then he found out and as our producer Chris Beams 1148 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: spoke about, you have to buy of the NFL inventory 1149 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: for your number. So the NFL has already got a 1150 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: circle I know that jerseys. Oh yes, they've already got 1151 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: a certain number Dalvin Cook jerseys that are already been 1152 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: that are already available. You have to buy those up. 1153 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: So Dalvin Cook was going to have to pay one 1154 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: point five million dollars to change to number four. And 1155 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: you know what, Dalvin sus said, what do you say, No, no, channel, No, 1156 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: you ain't fail at one point five to switch numbers. No, no, 1157 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: but that's wild that. So guys that don't have their 1158 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: jerseys out there in the stores all like that, Like 1159 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: let's just say Donovan Wilson, he doesn't have his jersey 1160 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 1: all out there and stores like that, they can change 1161 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: with no purchase or nothing like that. But guys that 1162 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: are you know, pretty much stars in this league that 1163 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, people wear their jerseys and stadiums, they got 1164 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: to pay to be able to switch their number. So Basically, 1165 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: you know guys who are free agents who or for this, 1166 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 1: maybe an Antoine Woods. You know, you possibly can go 1167 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: ahead and buy up those jerseys. But then again, he's 1168 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: making two million dollars, so because he want to have 1169 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,479 Speaker 1: to take you know, maybe possibly a couple hundred grand 1170 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: out of his own pocket, you can go pay for 1171 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: a number. This is going to be something that you 1172 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: see with new guys coming into the league, in my opinion, 1173 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: because if you're an establishment and you're thinking about, you know, 1174 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, you want to pay this kind of money 1175 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: just to switch a number, I don't. I don't see 1176 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: that happening here. Patrick Mahomes is going to switch to 1177 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,879 Speaker 1: his college number. They know it's gonna cost way too 1178 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: much money. Because this is where the NFL owners are geniuses. 1179 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: You want to switch, fine, but you gotta pay us 1180 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: to do it. So if Dalvin Cook wants to give 1181 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: the NFL one point five million dollars and then he 1182 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: starts a new number and they go make more money 1183 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 1: off that, dude, it's good for the NFL. This is 1184 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: very smart business by the league. Yeah it is, And 1185 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: I think you're right. It will just be new guys 1186 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: that are first are coming into the league that that'll 1187 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: take advantage of this rule change, because, like you said, 1188 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: if Dalvin Cook's number is one point five to change 1189 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: is imagine one of my homes or or a Brady 1190 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: or you know, somebody like that, it's gonna it's gonna 1191 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 1: be out of this world to change their number. And 1192 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, if they're like you said, the NFL is smartness, 1193 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: the ultimate business. And overall though, I think you'll see 1194 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: the college guys coming in with the ability to have 1195 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: these low numbers because you know, all the veterans they 1196 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: already they're already establishing their numbers. They couldn't use those 1197 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: those low single digit numbers when they first got in, 1198 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: and like you said, they're already establishing what they got. 1199 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 1: So these new guys coming in, they'll definitely I can 1200 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: see a couple of receivers rocking, you know, number two, 1201 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 1: number three, number five out there. I mean, I can 1202 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: see that happening. But I think it'll be a new 1203 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: wave and those old guys that they're just not gonna 1204 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: want to pay one point five million just to switch 1205 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 1: a number. To me, it's not worth it. But you know, hey, 1206 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: well that was Cook, that was what Cook would have 1207 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,479 Speaker 1: had to pay. So I don't know what Janalen Smith 1208 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 1: would have to pay to go to number nine. Not 1209 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: sure exactly what Ezekiel Elliot would have to pay to 1210 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 1: go to number fifteen. We're number fifteen in Ohio state. 1211 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: So but these are just if you're a popular player 1212 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: in the league, and you're a player this moving product. 1213 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: It may be it may be hoo view to just 1214 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: stay where you are. So if you're Ceedee Lamb, going 1215 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: to number two is possibly gonna It may be too 1216 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: costly for you to switch from eighty eight. It may not. 1217 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: You know, you may decide. I can put, in Dalin 1218 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: Cook's case, one point five million dollars of money to 1219 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: a better use number in arresting there, Hey want to 1220 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: end with a question from Carolina Panthers head coach Matt Rule. 1221 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: This is what he likes to ask um potential prospects. 1222 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you this what he 1223 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: asked them if you were on a desert island, what's 1224 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: the one recording artist you would want to listen to? 1225 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: He by the way, he chose Dave Matthews. Dave Matthews 1226 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: Band was who Matt Rule picked is the one artist 1227 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: he would listen to on a deserted island. So who 1228 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 1: you got, You know, I gotta go with my boy 1229 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: Bob Marley. Man, if you guys watched the show, you 1230 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: see I got this poster in the background when we're 1231 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: doing my our shows. But I mean, especially if you're 1232 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: on a deserted island, you gotta have those happy vibes. 1233 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: You gotta have those happy tunes to keep to keep 1234 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: the emotions going, to keep you going in the right direction. 1235 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: You don't want to sit there and be you know, 1236 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: awesome heavy metal and just man, I'm sitting on this island. 1237 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: How am I gonna get off? If you get those 1238 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: happy vibes Bob's always pushing into his music, You'll find 1239 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: a way to get off that island. Even if you 1240 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: don't get off for a while, you can at least 1241 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: be happy while you're enjoying the island. So I gotta 1242 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: have Bob Marley and on my speaker box while I'm 1243 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: stuck at sea or stuck on an island. About ten ten, 1244 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: maybe six seven years ago, before he got into all 1245 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: his issues and troubles, I would have said our Kemp, 1246 00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: but I can't. Yeah, I can't do that now. Nah nah, 1247 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: give me Stevie Wonder because Stevie Wonders, those artists were 1248 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: everybody likes Stevie, and Stevie's got love songs. He's got 1249 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: good song you know you play that old Master blast. 1250 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean he's got, you know, great stuff, superstition. Um. 1251 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: I just called to say I love you, overjoyed. I 1252 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: mean that the record, the records that Stevie has been 1253 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: making since the sixties are just classics. So I would 1254 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: pick something that is a classic. And there's a whole 1255 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,919 Speaker 1: lot of different ones he could go with, So I would, 1256 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: I would rock. I would rock some Stevie Wonder. If 1257 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 1: I had just one artist to play, solid choice. Can't 1258 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: go wrong with Stevie Wonder out there, Stevie Wondering. Bob Marley, Yeah, 1259 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: you'll be a you'll make it through. You'll make it 1260 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 1: through the island. You'll be straight. All right. Let's wrap 1261 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: the show up with a simple question. Cowboys picking at 1262 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: number ten next Thursday. Who do they select with a 1263 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: numbered with the number ten overall pick and the twenty 1264 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: twenty one NFL draft the Dalla This Cowboys select Patrick Curtan. 1265 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: I believe it's the second. I'm not sure if it's 1266 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 1: junior or the second, but I'm just gonna say Patrick 1267 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,919 Speaker 1: Curtan the second. He's gonna come be a cornerstone part 1268 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: of this defense. He's gonna turn around this young secondary 1269 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: hymn Treyvon Diggs and hopefully Demante Kazy back there can 1270 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: get these boys lined up, but they gotta go certain 1271 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: at number ten. I believe he's a blue chip prospect 1272 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: and I think he can get the most out of 1273 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: his defense if you add him along with the Treyvon 1274 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Diggs out there. I am review one hundred percent. Patrick's 1275 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Artan is the pick I'd like to see the Dallas 1276 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys make. I am worried about Caroline at eight, but 1277 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm hoping Carolina takes Rashaan Slayter, the offensive tackle out 1278 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: of Northwestern, and at nine, maybe the Broncos take the quarterback. 1279 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: So it would be an amazing thing if the number one, 1280 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: I should say, the highest rated defensive player ended up 1281 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 1: not going until ten in the draft and the Cowboys 1282 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: were able to take him. I just think he fits 1283 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: so many needs of what they have and he could 1284 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: be a building block. And I'm looking not just next year. 1285 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking at for about ten years that the Cowboys 1286 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: could have at the number one corner in place here, 1287 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: and you put Sir Tannon Dix together knowing the kind 1288 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: of guys that they got to go face this year. 1289 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: You've got Kansas City on the schedule. So you've got 1290 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,439 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill. You've got Michael Thomas the New Orleans Saints. 1291 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: You've got Keenan Allen of the Chargers, you got Feeling, 1292 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: you got Jefferson of the Vikings. You've got Chris gott When. 1293 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: You've got Mike Evans of the Bucks on the schedule. 1294 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 1: You've got Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley on the schedule. 1295 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: You've got Kitty Galladaya the Giants on the schedule. You 1296 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: got who else the Eagle right, who else the Eagles 1297 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: decide to take. You got Curtis Samuel, and you've got 1298 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: scary Terry McLaurin of the Washington football team on your 1299 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: the white receivers that the Cowboys are gonna face this 1300 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 1: year to pretty wicked deal out there. You got the 1301 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Hambling kid, and you got the kid from Alabama, Jerry 1302 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Judy for the Denver Broncos. I mean, there's no shortage 1303 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: to do. They're gonna have to face the Raiders with 1304 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs. I mean, the Cowboys are going to be 1305 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: taking on some serious wide receivers and it's a passing league. 1306 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 1: So I think he got to go ahead and try 1307 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: and address it. And I think Patrick's ten the second 1308 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: fits so many things for the Cowboys. Chris be my producer. 1309 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Who you got taking at ten? By the way, we 1310 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 1: didn't ask you. We always talk amongst ourselves here, but 1311 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: but who you got? Who do you want to see 1312 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys take their ten? Okay, we go, So we're 1313 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: all in agreement. We are all in agreement. We want 1314 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 1: to see number two from Alabama and I don't. And 1315 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: that's who's got Number two? Is miss Wander the punter? 1316 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: Is he number two? Because this one, Miss Wander, you 1317 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: gotta get that up, Miss Wander, you gotta get that. 1318 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean so yeah, so so just looking right here, man, 1319 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: he could go ahead and rock that. He can rock. 1320 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 1: He can rock number two here. That would be pretty cool. 1321 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: That would be pretty cool. Hey, that's the players Lounge. 1322 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: We appreciate you checking us out here. Will be back 1323 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: on Friday. We'll review that Cowboys first overall pick in 1324 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: the draft that they make at number ten, fifteen, twenty, 1325 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 1: wherever they make it, and maybe they make two picks 1326 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 1: in the first round. They have done that before. We 1327 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you checking us out. For Barry Church producer Chris Beam, 1328 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm new, he scrugs. Say again, Say again, Chris Beam. Oh, 1329 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: Greg's urline the kickers number two. Yeah, go ahead, snatch 1330 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: that from him. Yeah, go ahead, Hey, Greg the leg 1331 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 1: you gotta get that up gregor leg, you gotta get 1332 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: up there. You're going. Yeah, you go ahead and take you, 1333 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: go ahead and take that from from the kicker all 1334 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: day long. Okay, Yeah, you just pay him a little 1335 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: bit of money, sending in the cobo, break him off 1336 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. Thanksat exactly. Just just pay him a 1337 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: little cash and move on down the road. All right. 1338 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: That's the players latch back to you by Hotels dot Com. 1339 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time right here on Dallas 1340 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 1: Scotts dot com Radio. This has been a production of 1341 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.