1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: At long last. Welcome back, Bernie, and welcome you all 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: to Cardinal's territory. It's been a week since we've done 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: an episode together, but it feels like so much longer. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: We'll get to that Rockies recap. So much to talk about. 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: First, I got to say this, Yeah, I thought you 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: had you were like ready to like designate me for 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: assignment or something. 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Just to designate myself for assignment. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: That's what happened, all right. I had to get that in. OK. 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: Good to see you, Good to work with you again. 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, so much to talk about after the latest Cardinals series. Look, 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: they were riding a high. They won two of three 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, came back big series, went over the 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Cubs over yachty weekend, and they promptly get rocks by Colorado. 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: They dropped the series to the Rockies again for the 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: second time, to arguably what could be one of the 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: most historically bad baseball teams ever. And it just takes 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: it just took all the excitement right out of their sales. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: And the worst part about this one, the six' five 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: loss to The. Rockies are recording This, Wednesday august, thirteenth 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: WAS i don't think The cardinals could have done anything 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: better from a strategy standpoint to ensure a better. Outcome 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: Alli Marvel gott McGreevy out at the right. Time he 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: was cruising through. Six the swings were a little better 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: the second time, through so you don't really want to 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: see him go a third time. Through and then you 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: have your most high leverage relievers rested and ready to. 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Go you know you're gonna Have lady for. One O'Brien 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: And romero haven't pitched Since, sunday so you can use them. 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Accordingly you Get Jojo romero in the ninth knowing that 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: The rockies are going to turn over their bench and 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: put the writings. In there's nothing you can do about 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 1: it because of how the bullpen set. Up Jojo romero 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: has been. Nails what. Happens he gives a pinch hit 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: home run To Undo, goodman the first home run he's 36 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: surrendered Since april twenty, first and The cardinals lose six to, 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: five a gup punch. Loss burning your, Thoughts, YEAH i. 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Mean the bullpen is going to be a. Challenge we 39 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: all figured that would be the, case you, know when 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: they removed three of their best. Dudes, Obviously Hell's Lee 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: mayton and Mattch but the bullpen had done, really really. 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: Well but you, KNOW i think we all watched the 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: bullpen do very very well without their, three without their former. 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: Teammates BUT i think we all also kind of, figured 45 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: you know, This we've got to live in the real world. 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Here you, know there's going to inevitably there's gonna be some. 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: Problems and this was just one of those days where 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: the bullpen just wasn't good and it cost them the. 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: GAME i felt. BAD i really did feel bad For Jojo. 50 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: Romero See i'm not just a mean guy all the. 51 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Time he, said he's been so great for The cardinals 52 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: since Late. April it's just. Great and it was just 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: one of those. Days it happens to, relievers you. Know 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: hecketts happened To Ryan helsley as a met already a 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: couple of. Times so what are you gonna? Do But Katie, 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: man you, know The rockies had not had a shutout 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: if you go back into you, KNOW i think it 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: was Like may twenty fourth Or may fourteenth off something 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: like that of twenty twenty. Four so not only did 60 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: they beat The cardinals four, times but two of the 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: wins were. SHUTOUTS i, mean if they hadn't shut anyone 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: out until The cardinals came in against The. Cardinals, YEAH i, 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: mean it's just. Unbelievable and you, KNOW i was looking 64 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: this up to me, too just a very very brief 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: numbers nerd. Thing you, know The cardinals like the last two, days, 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: well in the in the in The i'm, sorry in 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: the two and four record against The. Rockies they only 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: managed to score eighteen runs and five of them came. 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: Today and The rockies this season right, now they're starting 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: their OVERALL era and they're starting pitching E ra would 71 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: be the worst in a season by a team since 72 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety Six Detroit, tigers who all who lost 73 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: like one hundred and three or four. Games so how 74 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: does this? 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Happen it's so, frustrating AND i, think like you can 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: chalk it up to growing pains. Whatever we know what 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: the season's supposed to be as they transition to twenty 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: twenty six and. Beyond but it doesn't change the fact 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: that this team should have performed so much better against The. 80 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Rockies and that was a sentiment inside the. Clubhouse you, 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: Know michael McGreevey hasn't been a major leaguer for that. 82 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Long BUT i thought he was spot on with you 83 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: when he, said, like everyone's disappointed by. This we, asked you, 84 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: know is that the common sentiment in the, clubhouse and 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: he like looked at us if you were. Crazy he, 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: was of, course they know what this. IS i mean 87 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: The rockies have having won won forty. Games they Entered 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: tuesday's game fifty eight games under five hundred And Oli 89 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: marmo said On tuesday when The cardinals got shut, out 90 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: they had to have been much better than To Kyle, 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: freeland who was two and twelve coming into that, matchup 92 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: had nearway higher Than miles michaelis so disappointing it. Is, 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: yes they had a short, bench you know when they 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: were out without a New bar for a, game Without 95 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: contraraspur game Without donovan for, Aight inians for a. Game 96 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: those are three guys that are going to be instrumental 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: in this everyday success going. Forward but bottom line is 98 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: your next core has to figure out how to Hit rockies. 99 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: Pitching and what's more frustrating is that they played really 100 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: competitive ball against The dodgers and really strong baseball against 101 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: The cubs just to come out flat and again take 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: the wind out of their sales. 103 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: Here you. Know and, listener so we already talked about the, 104 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: bullpen and you, know obviously it's a very simple. Thing 105 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: if they get the three outs they, needed The cardinals. 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: Win BUT i don't want to let the offense off 107 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: the hook. Said they scored five runs in the first five. 108 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: Innings they did not score run the final four innings 109 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: against a wretched pitching staff and a wretched. Bullpen and 110 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: it isn't that they just got shut out over the 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: last four. INNINGS i, mean you've got to tack on 112 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: some runs against The. Rockies you just have. To they 113 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: were zero for twelve WITH i think four strikeouts maybe 114 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: five in the last four. INNINGS i, mean let's just 115 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: say the quality of the advats was pretty, bad you. 116 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: Know and it's just, like you, know to use The 117 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: tony larusa, thing you. KNOW i hope when The yankees 118 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: show up On, friday these guys are ready to play 119 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: a hard night, again because that was pretty. Bad just 120 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: the offense just completely shut down by A rockies. Bullpen 121 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: that's just. AWFUL i, mean The cardinals the last two 122 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: games which they, lost they didn't score a run against 123 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: The broncki's bullpen IN i think five and two thirds, 124 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: innings come, on that's, inexcusable, right, well. Stinks we'll talk 125 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: about that. 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Later we, will we, will but it's, yeah, FANS i 127 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: hear your. Frustration it was not a good series that 128 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: has been backed up by the guys in the, clubhouse 129 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: just especially when you get another quality star By michael, 130 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: McGreevy who seems to be figuring things out as he, 131 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: gets you, know almost a month of consistent playing time 132 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: in the major league. ROTATION i liked what we saw 133 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: to McGreevy again to go out and cruise to the 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: first three and then, yeah he did get hit a 135 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: little bit harder during the, fourth, fifth and sixth. Innings 136 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: rocky scored one run in each of those. Frames but 137 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: you can play with fire when you have a pitch 138 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: to contact staff or a pitch to contact, guy and 139 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: that fire doubles when you have runners on. Right but 140 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: McGreevey doesn't, waiver he doesn't, scare and that's what makes 141 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: him a little different than the majority of the ground 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: ball pitchers that we've seen from The cardinals this, year 143 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: is because he trusted stuff and he knows he can 144 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: get out of, it and we saw. That, now would 145 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: he want a couple of those pitches? Back? Sure. Absolutely 146 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: he actually wasn't super perturbed About mickey moniac home. Run 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: just wish that he went about it the sequencing a different, 148 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: way and that's something he's going to learn this early 149 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: in his. Career but for The cardinals to come out 150 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: and get a quality start from their picture and not 151 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: be able to back it, up knowing how often From 152 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: july first to now they were unable to get a 153 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: quality start and we're out of games by the third 154 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: or fourth inning because their starter of the day. Imploded 155 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: the elect an opportunity on the. Table momentum was really 156 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: high On, monday it's falling short. Again good an off 157 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: day recover and hope you can take advantage of a 158 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: Flailing yankee. Squad but, yeah this one Hurts perning. 159 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: Definitely you, know if they win the, Series i'm fine with. 160 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: THAT i, mean you, know sometimes it's easy to be 161 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: demanding and, say, oh you got to sweep this. Team 162 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: you never demand a. Sweep you just keep stacking series, 163 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: wins you, know and you got to win that. Game 164 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: maybe you have a five to three, Lead come, ON i, 165 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: mean that. Was was that the Worst i'm gonna ask, 166 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: You i'd defer to the. Expert was that the worst 167 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: loss of their? Season i'm thinking it. Was it felt like. 168 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: It it felt like just because of what they were 169 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: able to do after the trade. Deadline we all thought 170 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: coming after the deadline that The, cardinals you, know they 171 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: traded away their top three. Relievers the sentiment, is let's 172 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: focus on the. Future that's the messaging from the. Organization 173 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: and you had a lot of players stuff, up specifically 174 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: in that. Bullpen so to come out and not take 175 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: advantage of a very feeble, opponent that. Sucks plan, simple 176 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: that's not. FUN i. 177 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: Think, yeah we've seen a couple of things go down 178 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: in the last week or. So, YEAH i think last 179 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: week or. So, ANYWAY i think this defines kind of 180 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: this wacky, nature unpredictable, nature topsy turvy, nature tilt the 181 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: world nature of The. Cardinals you win the season series 182 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: from The dodgers and you lose the season series to The. 183 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Rockies make it makes. 184 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: Sense that's the twenty twenty Five cardinals right. There huh very. 185 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: Much we talked about their roller coaster. Season we're still on. 186 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: It and. 187 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: You, know in CASH i don't even know what else to. 188 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: ADD i Guess i'll just leave it at. That but 189 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: but we've seen this from this team all, year where you, know, 190 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: gosh they get off to a terrible start and they 191 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: catch fire and they're the best team in baseball In, 192 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: may and then they start to fall, apart and then 193 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: they're awful From june thirtieth up until. Recently we counted 194 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 2: them out once or. Twice then we counted them out 195 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: for sure after the, deadline and then they rally from. 196 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: That at one point before when they Beat colorado the other, 197 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: night they The cardinals were, like had won five out of. 198 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: Seven so now we're all looking at the playoff odds 199 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: and we're looking at the, schedule and we're, thinking, well 200 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: it's a long, shot but that's kind of. 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Inning, 241 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: yesterday he threw three innings a perfect ball to start 242 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: his start On. Tuesday the blow started to dip a 243 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: little bit in the, fourth but it was manageable and 244 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: then really had a nozable drop off in the, fifth 245 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: and that's Where Ali marmel said we've seen enough and 246 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: pulled them with two runners on there sustaining below as 247 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: we know has been a big thing For libby coming 248 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: out of the second. Half it's why The cardinals skipped 249 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: his first start comming out of The All star, break 250 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: and since, Then libby has not really been able to 251 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: sustain much of. That his stuff has followed his command his. 252 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: Velocity he has not recorded more than five innings since 253 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: The All star. Break we Knew libby was it going 254 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: to be reaching his career innings at some point in 255 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: the second. Half The cardinals were where this could be a. 256 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Problem he will make his next, start but If Maggie 257 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: libertore continues to, falter his health and his longevity next 258 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: season is much more important than how The cardinals figure 259 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: how to finished this. Year the, problem, Though, bernie as we, 260 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: know as we've talked about all season, long The cardinals 261 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: don't really have much in terms of depth to alleviate this. 262 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: Problem they could turn to a piggyback role with Both 263 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Kyle lahy And Matt swhonson stretch out for, length but 264 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: it is certainly not. Ideal, bernie what is your concern 265 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: level About libby's below. 266 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: Issues, YEAH i guess it's moderate from the. STANDPOINT i 267 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: think they'll handle this. PROPERLY i don't think they're going 268 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: to you, know push it or force the. Issue they've 269 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: already shown their back and. Off but but you know, 270 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: WHERE i guess where is the line of demarcation on. 271 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: That in other, words there's a does it will there 272 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: come a point sorry where they just look at this and, 273 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: say you know, what just to be, safe we had 274 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: to shut him down for the rest of the. Season you, 275 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: KNOW i think that should be a consideration because because sometimes, 276 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: listen we know that the basic reason that we all jump, 277 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: on which is you, know, fine is, well he hasn't 278 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 2: been a starting pitcher in the majors, before and he you, 279 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: know he has Not he's not used to this innings. 280 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: Load and you, know in his first ten starts of 281 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: the season he basically averaged six innings per, start which 282 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: you know He so they wrote him pretty, hard And 283 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: i'm not ripping them or, Criticized i'm just saying they. 284 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: Did that's a, fact the average five point nine innings 285 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: for his first ten starts and then kind of hit the, 286 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: wall bounce back a little, bit hit the wall. Again 287 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: SO i he's a he's a precious talent that has 288 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: a chance to be really outstanding in a really important 289 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: memory of your rotation for years to. Come so if 290 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: there's any doubt, whatsoever don't don't force, it you, know 291 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: shut him down if you feel you have. To and 292 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: AND i hope AND i trust that The cardinals are 293 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: also going to kind of look at his off season 294 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: and maybe come up with some ways that will help. 295 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: Him he works, hard and he cares, deeply but maybe 296 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: there's something to do with his preparation in the off 297 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: season that can gird him better for you, know being 298 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: a major league starting pitcher for thirty thirty three games 299 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. SIX i think they have to look 300 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: at all of, That BUT i JUST i WOULD i 301 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: think that everything can turn out just. Fine BUT i 302 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: hope that they're really careful with what they do here 303 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: the remainder of the, season and to. 304 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Their, credit they have. Been they have been so careful 305 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: about pitching. Injuries and while a little bit of luck 306 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: is involved in, that you can't control many of these extra. 307 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: Circumstances they have been since day one so cognizant about 308 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: how they're using pitchers the overall, innings how they're taking 309 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: care of guys on the off. Days we know about 310 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: that six man or six days of rest formula that 311 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: they had for most of the first. Half i've said it, 312 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Before i've said it all season. Long i'm not changing 313 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: my mind on. This they did, absolutely one hundred percent 314 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: the right thing With Matthew libertor this. Year, Sure, no 315 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: we've gone back and. Forth you needed to know what 316 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: he was as a starter because starting pitching is so 317 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: thin in this, organization and he has the makeup to do. 318 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: It he's proved, it he's shown. It now it's about sustaining. 319 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: It but if it in any means it's going to 320 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: impact his health or his availability next, year you don't risk. 321 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: It because he's shown The cardinals what they need to 322 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: see and that's someone that you can build around for 323 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: next year in twenty, seven. Etc SO i am With. 324 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: JOURNEY i. AGREE i don't like it For libby BECAUSE 325 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: i think he has such still such untapped, potential AND 326 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: i look forward To libby. Starts he's worked, really really 327 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: hard and to hear how open he was about his 328 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: struggles On, tuesday about how this is not the picture 329 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: he wants to, be how he doesn't know what's going. 330 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: On it's a frustrating, challenge but he's determined to fix. 331 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: IT i believe he, will uh And i'm glad The 332 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: cardinals are giving him at least one more start to 333 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: try to adjust this on the. Fly at this point 334 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: what you have to. Lose but the second That libby 335 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: is unable in a noticeable way for a prolonged amount of. 336 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Time and at this point we're getting there and the 337 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: stuff isn't, holding the bilo isn't, holding and the command isn't. 338 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Going you need to make the best decision for his. 339 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Future AND i think The cardinals will. 340 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: Do, That AND i don't want to overreact to the 341 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: loss of. Velocity and you pointed something. Else it's it's 342 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: also very much about his loss of. Command it isn't 343 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: just a. Velo but it's like if you look at 344 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: his first ten, starts like his walk rate was one 345 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: of the lost by a starting pitcher in the. MAJORS 346 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: i mean it was like pinpoint. Control it was really 347 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: a beautiful thing to. Watch BUT i think we're also 348 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: used to, these you, know, terrible terrible pitching, injuries just 349 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: the way the industry is with everyone of the high 350 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: velo and everything. ELSE i, mean starting, pitchers especially breaking 351 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: down all the. Time And i'm not saying that this 352 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: is always the. Case obviously it's. Not but you, KNOW 353 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: i think a guy's in the, past you, know the 354 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: velocities dropped and the commands really, suffering and you, know 355 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: the next, thing you, know you get you, know your, 356 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: starter it's, like, well they're gonna look at. Him he 357 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: might you, know he might have a flexer strain or, 358 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: something and then that leads to an elbow an elbow, 359 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: problem and it just it's just kind of mushrooms from. 360 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: THERE i, mean that's what happened With Corbyn. Burns you, 361 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: know he was losing V lo last year In Baltimore arizona. 362 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: SIGNS i, mean he was losing more V low early 363 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: this season before he finally had to come To Tommy john. 364 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: SURGERY i, mean the losing vloa, thing you, know for 365 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: a pitcher who was otherwise in great, shape who was trained, 366 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: properly is ultra. Competitive when all of a sudden the 367 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: v low, tanks that's a red flag and The cardinals know, 368 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: that which is why they're backing. Off you. 369 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Know, yeah. Agreed, now the second tier to this problem 370 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: is if The cardinals decide to Taper livvy, back that's. 371 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: Fine you can Have Kyle lahey. PIGGYBACK i believe That 372 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: kyle Lay heat will actually be when pitching the catch 373 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: to report next year be reporting as a. Starter Matt 374 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: sjohnson talk about a guy that's really, thrived And i'll 375 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: dive more into this WHEN i have more, Information but 376 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: this is just initial stuff that was brought me over this. 377 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: Series if you want to look at how The cardinals 378 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: new pitching development system is working in the minor, leagues 379 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: look at What Matt spohson's been able to do since 380 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: being called up in the first week Of. July this 381 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: is what we can get excited. About So i'm excited 382 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: to dive a little bit more into. That but the 383 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: stuff from sponson the, effectiveness the changes that he made 384 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: from a mechanic standpoint command and overall. Usage this is 385 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: what The cardinals are working down In TRIPLE A DOUBLE 386 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: a with new director of Pitching matt pierpont Rob'sor Folioheim. 387 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: Bloom they're all over. This Matt swohnson is a very 388 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: early sample size on what you can see for those new. 389 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: Changes so that is. Exciting there is your positive note 390 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: of the podcast of the. Day they can. Piggyback it's 391 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: going to make this already complicated bullpen even more complicated to. 392 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Navigate and, HONESTLY i Think Allie marmel And Dusty blake 393 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: have done a really good job given what they. Have 394 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of depth. Options you Have 395 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Aaron wilkerson And Curtis taylor to depth right handers that 396 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily a part of the, future but have been 397 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: at least capable of throwing innings In, memphis so they 398 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: could come up and spots. Start none of this is, 399 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: ideal and it further emphasizes The cardinals need to get 400 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: back on pitching development and really both their mind like 401 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: system with, arms because they are severely lacking and this 402 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: problem that they've created is again because of their own 403 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: unavailability with players in their. 404 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: System what are the odds that the card has given the, 405 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: FACT i, mean his last two starts in particular have been. 406 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: Fantastic i'm talking About Quinn, matthews what are the odds 407 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: that They i'm not saying you call him Up august, 408 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: fifteenth it's like the first day you can and where 409 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: he can still maintain his rookie eligibility next. Season But 410 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: i'm talking maybe the end Of august do you give 411 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: him a couple of starts and do you do you 412 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: handle him with? Care you know you almost have an opener. 413 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: Situation you let, them you, know you let them pitch two, 414 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: winnings maybe then start turning into a bullpend. Game do 415 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: you get a look at? Him do you let him 416 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 2: get acclimated to the? Majors would that expedite his development 417 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: to the from the standpoint that he'll have a feel for, 418 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: it he'll experience, it and then it makes, them puts 419 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: them in a spot where he's he knows what to 420 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: expect and have a better feel for pitching the major 421 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: leagues when he goes to spring? Training is have you 422 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: have you heard anything that tells you one way or the, 423 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: other either yay or nay on the idea of bringing 424 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: him up and Not brian, Died i'm not pushing, him 425 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: just just letting him pitch a little. 426 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: Bit we're talking About, matthews, right you cut out for a. 427 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Second right when he said the, NAME i was, like, 428 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: oh but, yes, OKAY i Figured. SUTHEW i can see both. 429 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: Sides i've said on the show. Before you don't call 430 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: a top pitching prospect up based on. Team need you 431 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: call him up based on player, performance And Quinn matthews 432 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: has done a lot better as of, late BUT i 433 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: think there are still some things to find. Too John 434 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: mozelac went on one on ONE Espn The on The Morning, 435 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: show and it gave a pretty good interview to those, 436 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: guys The tim mc kernan out, there and also pointed 437 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: out this WHICH i didn't really. Consider this is not 438 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: a protection year For Quinn. Matthews he doesn't need to 439 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: be added to the forty man. Roster they don't need 440 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: to make those kinds of changes, yet and if they, 441 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: do that's probably not a mode, decision that's a High blom. 442 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: Decision SO i don't see The cardinals really rushing Up Quinn, 443 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: matthews knowing how important it is for them to get 444 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: their very limited TRIPLE a arms right for twenty twenty 445 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: six and then burning your protection on the forty man. 446 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: ROSTER i don't think that makes a lot of sense 447 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: for them to do right. 448 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: Now. 449 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: Now If Quinn matthews absolutely shoves for the next three 450 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: four weeks and as worthy of A september roster expansion call, 451 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: up maybe we're having a different. Conversation but with pitching, 452 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: specifically it is so much better overall for everyone to 453 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: wait to call them, up maybe even wait a little too, 454 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: late than to bring them up too, early as we've 455 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: seen so many times here in Sy. LEWIS i. 456 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: AGREE i agree with you on, principle AND i don't 457 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: know if the same thing applies to a guy LIKE Jj. 458 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: WEATHERHOLD i know there's a lot a lot of consternation 459 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: about the forty men. ROSTER i just happen to. BELIEVE i, 460 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: mean these dudes a natural born. Hitter AND i also 461 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: think The, cardinals you, know at least want to try 462 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: to sell some tickets for twenty twenty, Six i'd. Hope, so, 463 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: yeah if you give the, people you, know a sneak 464 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: preview of coming, attractions because you know they're going to 465 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: market the heck out OF Jj weatherhold all off, season well, yeah, 466 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: right so you gotta you got to bring them, up 467 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: give the people what they want to. See you, know 468 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: you want to you want to cause some or stimulate some. 469 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: EXCITEMENT i think a look see WITH jj would would. 470 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: Help but, uh anyway THAT i wanted to throw that 471 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: in Because matthews AND jj are kind of in the 472 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: same situation as far as they're unbelievable upside in terms 473 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: of their potential for the major. 474 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: Leagues And JJ's been. Swinging it was just named The 475 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals Minor league player of The month For. July has 476 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: six lead off homers From memphis AND i think he's 477 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: played there for not even a month, yet so it's. 478 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: Exciting i'm all in the JJ w the whole, train, 479 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: absolutely BUT i don't think The cardinals are in any rush, 480 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: too because if you look at their current roster right, 481 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: now where would you even play? Him? Bertie, oh we. 482 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: Don't we have a roster revendency problem here In Saint. 483 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: Louis never heard that. 484 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: Before, yeah, yeah, boy why do you have to bring that? Up? 485 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: Sorry maybe, okay, commercial we'll calm. 486 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: Down, NO i, Mean i'm, kidding of, course but, yeah 487 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: it's it's the headache that never. Ends in, fact you 488 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: brought it, up and like on the other side of my, 489 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: LAPTOP i have some, LEAVE i might have to reach 490 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: for the. Leave so, anyway because you. 491 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: Brought that, up foster construction is going to need to 492 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: be addressed real quick by the new, regime And i'm 493 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: sure it will be all. 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Yeah he's, however on a, 521 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: tailspoon a tailspin of their, own so it will be 522 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: if anything interesting over the next were days at the, Ballpark, 523 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: bertie anything you need to, express get off your mind. 524 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: Bench we can make this a therapy. Session what do you. 525 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: Got you, know we were talking About Heim bloom and 526 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: he's going to have a crucial off season coming, up 527 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: and obviously we all have to kind of adjust our 528 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: expectations because this isn't going to be you, know, well Mister, 529 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: DeWitt CAN i have this one to sign this free? 530 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: Agent AND i want to sign that free, agent AND 531 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: i want to sign this free. Agent it's it's not 532 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: that off. Season they're starting the rebuild in. Earnest i'm 533 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: not talking about a tear, down but they're starting their 534 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: Their they've already started it really Today this year is 535 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: the first, step but it really moves into overdrive With Heim. 536 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: Bloom and you, Know i've used this cliche on a 537 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: couple of other media appearances and even my own column 538 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 2: So i'm sorry to use it, again but you, KNOW 539 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: i like to, barbecue and you, know for a while 540 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: THERE i was getting really. Fancy and you, know when 541 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: you put a brisket, on or you put a pork 542 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: butt on or, whatever you, know the way to do 543 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: it low and, slow low and, slow don't rush, it 544 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: don't turn the temperature up too. High low and, slow 545 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 2: and that's how you come up with the perfect brisket 546 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: or pork. Butt, right how do you like? 547 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: That that's really? 548 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: GOOD i know right, well this is going to be 549 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: low and, slow And cardinals fans are gonna have to 550 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: get used to. It i'm not saying they have to like. 551 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: It but they hired build A wood hired And John 552 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: mosaic Hired Heine bloom for a reason because he had a. 553 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: Plan in, fact The deuits were blown away when you, 554 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 2: know it's part of before he got the. Job they 555 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: wanted him to present his. Plan and he made a 556 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: presentation that lasted over three, hours you, know and and 557 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 2: it's like like every detailed, COVERED i, mean step by 558 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: step by. Step so he's, listen this is an incredibly smart, 559 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: man And i'm going to trust what he thinks is 560 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: best because The cardinals need to get out of the. 561 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: Middle if it means a couple more years where it 562 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 2: might be a little, frustrating or they're going to take 563 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: a hit to tendance, wise, well they're not going to raise, 564 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: playrolls so they'll be able to least financially be, fine 565 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: or they're fine any way. Financially but the thing that's 566 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: on my mind, is you, know we know that there 567 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: will be, trades and we know that this offense has to, 568 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: change not only in just bottom line. Performance it's been 569 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: the worst offense in The majors statistically Since june. Thirtieth, 570 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: coincidentally that's when they open that series In pittsburgh and 571 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: got shut out three days in a. Row they've scored 572 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: the fewest runs per game any team in The majors since, 573 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: then starting, then and they're like twenty ninth and you, 574 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: know twenty ninth and slugging and twenty ninth in ops just. 575 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 2: Awful but it isn't just the bottom. Line it's also 576 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: going to be AND i want to get your opinion on, 577 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: this maybe this could be an upcoming segment next time we. 578 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: Meet but they have to ease the log. Dam they 579 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: have got to offload some left handed. Bats if Heim 580 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: bloom does, ANYTHING i hope that he lands a right 581 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: handed bat that can play in the. Outfield it could 582 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: be part of its. Trade but you know who's he 583 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: going to? Trade how aggressive will he? Be will he 584 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: move two of these left handed? Bats will he be somewhat? 585 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: Conservative or will he go into this thinking, no this 586 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: is the time to strike, now because IF i don't 587 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: move PLAYER A b see talking about left handed, bats 588 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: their value may continue to. Tank and so this will 589 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: be the time if there's interest in them in the 590 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: car and they claim that there was a lot of 591 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: interest them in them in the trade. Deadline so what's 592 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: Time bloom gonna. Do we know what his bottom line job, 593 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: is but what's he going to do in terms of 594 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: handling this specific off season in a way that also 595 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: attacks the very pressing problems that have bugged them all? 596 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: Year the overload of left handed, bats the positional log, 597 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: jams the lack of right handed, power you, know all 598 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: kinds of. Things how does he deal with that in 599 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: the near. 600 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Future, well it's a two fold thing for. Me the 601 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: active roster needs to be addressed and the forty man 602 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: construction and operation and how The cardinals use that has 603 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: blown my mind and not in a good way for seasons, 604 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: now AND i think that's going to be obviously one 605 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: of the main prerogatives of the front office of Under 606 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: Hein bloom to come in and address you cannot play 607 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth season with the same rouss your 608 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 1: construction on your active roster as you do right, now 609 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: and you have to have better options on your forty 610 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: MAN i could spend thirty minutes talking about the forty man, 611 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: roster BUT i won't do. That and those things are 612 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: not going to be addressed in the course of two, 613 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: weeks Right that's going to take the entire, offseason if 614 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: not into spring training to solidify. That and it's probably 615 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty six overall big picture as we sit 616 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: here before the twenty five season even. Ends that's something 617 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: that cannot be fixed in a. Month you, know that's 618 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: at least an off, season if not an entire season's 619 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: worth of roster. Maneuvers but the one thing that The 620 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: cardinal's new front office can, do whether It's heime And, 621 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: bloom whether It's Robs, orfolio whether It's Matt, pierpont whether 622 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: it's whoever the NEW gm is going to be is 623 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: nail the messaging and be transparent with. Fans fans do 624 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: not want to be gas lit. Anymore they've had. Enough 625 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: look at the. Stadium why do you think they're not showing? 626 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: Up AND i think this new front, OFFICE i think 627 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: every single one of these people understand, that AND i 628 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: think they know they have to nail the. Messaging we 629 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: haven't really heard much from. Them you, Know moe is 630 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: still in charge of the organization and still is handling 631 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: all of the media and all. That but behind the, 632 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: SCENES i think there's a real push for the New 633 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: wave to come in and be open with. Fans AND 634 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: i hope this is. TRUE i hope they are and, explain, 635 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: hey here's what's going on. Here because The cardinals tried 636 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: to do. That they they tried to be transparent In. 637 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: OCTOBER i didn't love the end of season press. Conference you, 638 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: know if that they, tried it wasn't. Good but they, 639 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: tried and then they went back on it and kind 640 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: of did a like this applies to half the, roster 641 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: but not the other. Half we're, competing but we're also. 642 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: Retuneling we're not gonna call it a, rebuil but everyone 643 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: knows it's a, rebuild and we have two front offices 644 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: at the same, time so go get. Them that only 645 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: muddied the message and they and their best attempts to 646 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: try to be, transparent so it didn't. Work this office 647 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: has to be a lot better than, that AND i 648 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: think they understand. 649 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: That, yeah And i'm not gonna whatch you, said because 650 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: you laid it out very very, well but to just you, 651 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: know put a point on. It i'm not Saying cardinals 652 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: fans are gonna like What Pine bloom has to say in. 653 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: Robesterfolio they probably won't like hearing the word. Rebuild but 654 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, WHAT i Think cardinals fans are good, people 655 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: AND i think that they will appreciate the fact that 656 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: someone is being straight with them and there's no double, 657 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: talk there's no you, know making these declarations and then 658 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: taking them, back you, know and you're never really putting 659 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: them into. Play your fans want to be treated with. 660 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: Respect the first thing to do to get their trust 661 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: back is to treat them with respect and tell them the. 662 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: Truth even if the truth is not what they necessarily 663 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: want to. Hear they'll they'll respect respects you for respecting 664 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: them instead of trying to run a con you, know 665 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: or some kind of fast. Talking, well this is our, 666 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: plan which really isn't a. Plan SO i am glad 667 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: to hear, that And i'm not surprised to hear that 668 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: they're all on board with telling the truth and being 669 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: straight with. People that's the that's the, start and that's 670 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: the first indication that The cardinals really will have new 671 00:31:54,920 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: and better leadership running things from this point. On And jama's, like, 672 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: LISTEN i, WILL i will at the appropriate time coming up, 673 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: SOON i will write a tribute to him because of 674 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: the work that he did for so. Long he did 675 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: an excellent. Job but he's like a. Pitcher that. Happened 676 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: it happens in. Sports he just kind of lost his, 677 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: fastball right, well and he, YEAH i lost mine a 678 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 2: long time. Ago then he you, know he lost his, 679 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: fastball and then he was kind of like became a 680 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: guy that was kind of a junk. Baller he's trying 681 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: to throw this, pitch that, pitch try to sell, pitch 682 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: try to try to try to hoping something will. Land 683 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: and BUT i think and people will get mad at 684 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: me for praising him on the way, Out But i'll 685 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: be praising him for what he. Did you, know he 686 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: was actually here Before Tony LaRusso Because Walt jacket he 687 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: brought him From colorado and then they Hired. Larusa John 688 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: mazak made some monster moves that helped The cardinals win 689 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: a lot of games and a lot of big, games 690 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: and the twenty Eleven World series and the twenty thirteen. 691 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: Nationally so but his, time you, know has come and, 692 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: gone AND i THINK i Think Bill DeWitt maybe stayed 693 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: the course too. Long BUT i look forward to new. 694 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: Leadership it isn't THAT i Hate John. MOZELAC i go 695 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: way way back with. Him you, KNOW i like him 696 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: a lot. Personally he does not like me very much 697 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: at this moment in. Time, yeah But i've Been i've 698 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: been pretty, uh pretty, nasty maybe too much at. Times 699 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: But i'm gonna tip The captain mo on the way, 700 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: out and Then i'm gonna be really really just as 701 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: someone the fan in me but also caring about the 702 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: fans here In Saint. Louis i'm gonna be so happy 703 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: that they get to have new people in, charge new 704 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: people THAT i think will handle so many things a 705 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: lot better from where The cardinals started to go after 706 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: their model and their methods and everything else got. 707 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: Stale, agreed and we'll end it here Because i'm with, You. 708 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: Bernie for we talk a lot about the future of 709 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: the organization because it's time for change and because it's 710 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: honestly going to be a brand new ordeal for all 711 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: of us, involved, fans media. Alike that doesn't mean That 712 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: i'm not gonna discredit What John mozilla's entire tenure has 713 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: been In Saint. LOUIS i know the last three years 714 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: have not been, great But I'm i'm not, gonna you, 715 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: know throw an, entire, respectful respectable career out the. Door 716 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: AND i hope That cardinals fans can, EVENTUALLY i understand 717 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: why you're not right, now but can eventually realize what 718 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: he did from a grand scope of, things The cardinals 719 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: had a real sick run under. Him but don't. Worry 720 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: we'll do The mosallic tribute episode to the. 721 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 5: End of the. 722 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: Season we'll take an off. Day Polo asensio is going 723 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: to join me talk ABOUT yachti weekend because that, was you, 724 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: know really cool of me to, miss and he's very 725 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: close To Jojo, Romero so we'll talk a little bit 726 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: more about What jo does look like in the closer. 727 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: Role we just want to talk about this, afternoon and 728 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: Then bernie AND i will hopefully have something for you 729 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: On sunday as we recap a bounce back. Series let's 730 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: manifest THAT i don't Know bertie as always super great 731 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: to have, You, Karl thanks always for. Listening we'll be 732 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: back with you. 733 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: Soon thank. 734 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: You