Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Movie Crush Charles W. Chuck Bryant.
Speaker 1: Here for the last of my l A Studio sessions.
Speaker 1: I had the wonderful Paul Sheer and to talk about
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Cop. Big fan of Paul's, have long been
Speaker 1: a big fan of his. Um from the early days
Speaker 1: on MTV with Human Giant It's very underrated show. If
Speaker 1: you haven't seen Human Giant with Rob Hubil and a
Speaker 1: Zza and sorry and Paul Shear, go find that. And
Speaker 1: then later on with things like The League, very funny
Speaker 1: show and one of my all time favorite shows, Children's Hospital.
Speaker 1: Paul has been around, and we get into it with
Speaker 1: his early stories which I just couldn't get enough of
Speaker 1: of his his early days in New York in the
Speaker 1: early formation of the Upright Citizens Brigade Theater and that
Speaker 1: whole crew that he was with back then who all
Speaker 1: just went on to do great things. It's really amazing,
Speaker 1: such a talented group of people, um, who are just
Speaker 1: kids back then and they're all doing really great, great
Speaker 1: stuff still. And uh, Paul was Paul was great and
Speaker 1: he uh he came in here um to talk about
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Cop, but also to talk about his new podcast, Unspooled.
Speaker 1: So not only does he have the great bad quote
Speaker 1: unquote bad movie podcast How Did This Get Made? With
Speaker 1: his lovely wife June, Diane Raphael, and Jason manton Zukis,
Speaker 1: but um, he has a new show now called Unspooled,
Speaker 1: which takes a more uh not serious but uh I
Speaker 1: guess more of a serious critical eye at the at
Speaker 1: the top one movies of all time. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of kind of neat. He's clearly a huge, huge movie guy,
Speaker 1: and it was great to talk to him. I feel
Speaker 1: like we could have gone on for hours talking about
Speaker 1: all kinds of movies. But check out Unspoiled for sure
Speaker 1: on the Airwolf Network and mid Roll. It's a really
Speaker 1: really good show and they're just getting cranking with it. So, um,
Speaker 1: there's some really good stuff out there. I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan already. And here we go with Paul Sheer on
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills cop I want to talk about your podcast too,
Speaker 1: but where um, well, actually, yeah, let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: talk about your your new show and the reason because
Speaker 1: you've been making how Did This Get Made for a
Speaker 1: while now. Yeah, it doesn't feel that long. But when
Speaker 1: I look at the dates. I'm like, wow, we've been
Speaker 1: doing it for a long long time. Um, we only
Speaker 1: do two new episodes a month, so we're almost at
Speaker 1: two episodes. But I think we've also been doing this
Speaker 1: since like two thousand and eleven. I think it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been a while. Yeah. So know,
Speaker 1: we put out fewer episodes than most, even though I
Speaker 1: do the mini episodes every single week, so I feel
Speaker 1: I'm always living it. But um, I think it keeps
Speaker 1: it fresh for us, and it also doesn't keep it
Speaker 1: like a grind, which is good for all of us
Speaker 1: because Jason, June and myself, like, we're all working actors
Speaker 1: and directors, writers, producers, you know, so we we can
Speaker 1: it's not our only job, which is it's a good
Speaker 1: respite from everything else. Yeah. I've tried to get Jason
Speaker 1: here a couple of times, and he's hip to do it,
Speaker 1: but just scheduled hadn't worked out yet. Yeah, he's right
Speaker 1: now in New York shooting. John Wick three has the
Speaker 1: TikTok Man, which I am so, I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: get a better name, and I mean, come on, John
Speaker 1: Wick the best. That's great, But your new show, um,
Speaker 1: what was What was the impetus behind that to do
Speaker 1: something a little more serious. I mean, you're not serious,
Speaker 1: but well it's interesting. The new show is called Unspooled,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing it with Amy Nicholson, who is a
Speaker 1: film critic that I really like. I was a fan
Speaker 1: of her show and when we were developing some shows
Speaker 1: back in the day for Wolf Pop, I really liked
Speaker 1: her because she is critical without being pretentious. She has
Speaker 1: opinions with um, but also her opinions aren't uh like,
Speaker 1: she's conversationally opinionated, which is a nice thing to do,
Speaker 1: like not to shut you down type of person. What
Speaker 1: was her background? Her background is um, I think she
Speaker 1: I mean, and this is where I'm a little bit hazy.
Speaker 1: You know. She wrote for The l A Times, she
Speaker 1: wrote for MTV, she writes Rolling Stone like, so she's
Speaker 1: all over the board. I like her reviews because they
Speaker 1: feel very much like an appalling Kale reviewed. I mean,
Speaker 1: they feel very full and so um. I've always liked Amy,
Speaker 1: and we've done a couple episodes of her show and
Speaker 1: it's always a blast um. But this idea for Unspoiled
Speaker 1: came up because there's this a poster I was like,
Speaker 1: the hundred greatest movies of all time and uh, and
Speaker 1: what you would do was you'd scratch one off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as you watched it, and uh. And I looked at
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, I've seen a lot of these,
Speaker 1: and like all these lists, the Alamo Drafthouse Best Movies,
Speaker 1: the b m I List, like all these movies, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've seen these, and then you look at the list, well,
Speaker 1: I've seen a percentage of them. And then as I
Speaker 1: kind of thought about even even more, like yeah, I've
Speaker 1: seen Taxi Driver. I don't remember Taxi Driver like I
Speaker 1: remember the thing that you're supposed to remember, like the
Speaker 1: meimable moments from it. And I was like, Oh, it
Speaker 1: would be really fun to watch these movies, and especially
Speaker 1: now in the sense that as I've now been creating
Speaker 1: stuff watching bad movies, I'd love to see what people
Speaker 1: put forward as good, great, you know, several films. And
Speaker 1: so I was like, I want to do that. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, why don't I do it as
Speaker 1: a podcast because it might be interesting to do it
Speaker 1: like that. And I partnered with Amy and we are
Speaker 1: kind of just doing that, having a non pretentious conversation
Speaker 1: kind of will have here today. I imagine we're we
Speaker 1: are just talking about film as people love film, people
Speaker 1: are interested in it. We hopefully it will be a
Speaker 1: little bit educational, a little bit interesting, but it's really
Speaker 1: just um, it's kind of like a very relaxed film
Speaker 1: class where you can kind of check in and and
Speaker 1: hopefully yeah, and it's like to get people excited about
Speaker 1: watching movies because for me, we've only I think we're
Speaker 1: at this point, we've released about four or five that
Speaker 1: we've recorded about ten. Um. I'm like so kind of
Speaker 1: inspired by all this stuff, and it's stuff that I've
Speaker 1: stayed away from, like yeah, like Citizen Kane, and I've
Speaker 1: talked to so many people who are like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: never saw it, and because it feels like homework when
Speaker 1: you realize it's not, it's good and you know. And
Speaker 1: and we just did swing Time, which is a fred
Speaker 1: freda stairge and Gerager and I've never seen one, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of debate about does that belong on
Speaker 1: the A Fi top on top at might be better
Speaker 1: than swing Time. Regardless of that, just to expose yourself
Speaker 1: to it is great. So I just find myself enjoying
Speaker 1: these movies. We watched French Connection a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: such a great movie, and it was a movie that
Speaker 1: I had watched, and the only thing I remembered from
Speaker 1: it was they hid the drugs under like in the
Speaker 1: paneling like you know. But and I'm like, how did
Speaker 1: I miss this entire movie? So in watching these movies
Speaker 1: that I hadn't seen or that I believed they saw, like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a whole other movie here that I've just my
Speaker 1: brain is just kind of exercised out, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: It really is coming from the joy of just watching
Speaker 1: stuff and wanting to talk about stuff, and we get
Speaker 1: to interview interesting people who are you know, involved in
Speaker 1: some way. Yeah, and that's um even I've realized with
Speaker 1: this show. For movies that I've seen, I mean some
Speaker 1: of these I've seen recorded one on Raising Arizona Estra.
Speaker 1: I've seen that movie five times probably, But there's something
Speaker 1: different when you watch it with a critical eye and
Speaker 1: take notes and things jump out of that you've never noticed.
Speaker 1: And to watch it more as a student of the
Speaker 1: movie has kind of been a fun experience. And imagine
Speaker 1: you're kind of having that same thing. Yeah, you are
Speaker 1: watching it without being forced to kind of watch it
Speaker 1: or you know, or you're watching in the right situation.
Speaker 1: UM two thousand and one is a movie that I get.
Speaker 1: I understand why people like it, and my experience has
Speaker 1: been watching it. Were never really like WHOA this movie
Speaker 1: blew my mind? But for this podcast, I went to
Speaker 1: the arc Light Cinema out here in l do this
Speaker 1: road show the seventy million, and it blew my mind.
Speaker 1: I have not stopped thinking about that movie since I
Speaker 1: saw it, and I was like, oh, like now I
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, But it's funny because it's like I've
Speaker 1: you know, that movie to me is a very like
Speaker 1: uh stoner film in the sense that like, you know,
Speaker 1: people watch this now and it's midnight and whatever you've
Speaker 1: been doing before, and it's like, that's not exactly the
Speaker 1: way that that movie should be enjoyed, or at least
Speaker 1: for the first time. And and there's fun in you know,
Speaker 1: we do it all the time with how did this
Speaker 1: get made? We're critically looking at like you know Mr.
Speaker 1: T Movie or you know, Hurricane Heist or whatever the
Speaker 1: thing is. So it is kind of refreshing for me
Speaker 1: just to be like, oh, every one of these movies
Speaker 1: is good and now it's like a little bit of
Speaker 1: a debate of does it belong there? Is it really good?
Speaker 1: And we're talking about this the other day. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you think about this, but like Platoon is
Speaker 1: like an interesting movie because I just watched that last night.
Speaker 1: For one, I'm recording tomorrow. Yeah, so I watched that
Speaker 1: this week and I found myself incredibly kind of like wow,
Speaker 1: really moved by it, and especially the first half, like
Speaker 1: you know, like up until you know, kind of that
Speaker 1: famous moment with Wim Defoe's character he's kind of gunned down,
Speaker 1: you know, and and then from there the movie wasn't
Speaker 1: as like on the edge of my seat where I was.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's interesting. It doesn't mean it's a
Speaker 1: bad movie, doesn't belong on that list. Is it better
Speaker 1: than Apocalypse now? It doesn't have to be just compared
Speaker 1: to Vietnam movies, like, but it's it's interesting, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think I've forgotten that. Well. It's it's funny
Speaker 1: because we're talking about it in the sense that when
Speaker 1: you talk talk about Vietnam films, or at least for
Speaker 1: the longest time, it's a pocalypse now and it's deer Hunter.
Speaker 1: Very rarely is Platoon in like in that conversation. Um,
Speaker 1: But yet Platoon does something that I think no one
Speaker 1: ever did before, which was a kind of show Vietnam
Speaker 1: like the real way it's a Vietnam vet. It was
Speaker 1: like saying I was there, that is what I saw,
Speaker 1: And so for that, I was like, whoa, this blows
Speaker 1: my mind. And that probably opened the door for a
Speaker 1: lot of filmmakers to make these movies that they've made
Speaker 1: about Iraq and PTSD and all this other stuff. But
Speaker 1: is I don't know, what did you think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, because I'm curious, like two, because
Speaker 1: I went and really emotionally attached to it, and then
Speaker 1: as I talked about I'm like, oh, well, I wonder
Speaker 1: where it all falls, because like, again, the first half
Speaker 1: is really fantastic to me, and then it just sort of,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it becomes more of a movie or like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the movie I saw a lot in college.
Speaker 1: It was on our with my roommates, and I was
Speaker 1: on our VHS rotation for like a solid year. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's the first time I've seen it since. UM,
Speaker 1: And I remember we're thinking back then, even like Oliver
Speaker 1: Stone is so heavy handed with the voiceover with the
Speaker 1: letters home to Grandma and stuff. Um, and that always
Speaker 1: has bugged me about him, even though I really enjoy
Speaker 1: some of his movies. How he will explicitly say, like,
Speaker 1: by the way, here's the theme of the movie, and
Speaker 1: I will literally tell it to you in a voiceover. H.
Speaker 1: So I didn't feel like it needed that stuff. But um,
Speaker 1: I think what didn't hit me before it was how
Speaker 1: much it was just a movie from the the grunts perspective.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how often we had seen that
Speaker 1: at that point, and showing like the factions within, Like
Speaker 1: I think at that point, probably you're not seeing you
Speaker 1: seem like the greediness of war of the you know,
Speaker 1: American soldiers fighting the enemy or the racial but you've
Speaker 1: never seen like the bad version of that. And and
Speaker 1: that's interesting. There were two murders of fellow soldiers, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and and and and just the abuse
Speaker 1: of those people, like whether it's Charlie Sheen pointing that
Speaker 1: gun at you know, the really mentally handicapped young man
Speaker 1: in the village, and the raping of those girls in
Speaker 1: the village is like like oh, this is an anti
Speaker 1: American war film, which is interesting, um filmically or as
Speaker 1: a film. It has this weird thing because you're saying,
Speaker 1: you're right, Like they cut from a scene of guys
Speaker 1: like smoking marijuana to another scene of guys playing cards
Speaker 1: listening to a song, basically saying we don't smoke marijuana,
Speaker 1: you know like that kind of yeah, um yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting, but you know it's yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know that's a very eighties movie too, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like this is the thing a hundred movies. Ship gets
Speaker 1: in there and we're talking about swing time, like sometimes
Speaker 1: a great example of I've had more reaction to that
Speaker 1: episode than others because like that's not the best rogers
Speaker 1: in a stare movie, and and why is it there?
Speaker 1: Why is it there? Like it's people across the border,
Speaker 1: like no, like top Hat is way better than It's interesting,
Speaker 1: but it's because maybe the Library of Congress put it in.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like so you all, you know, things
Speaker 1: slide in and then they're locked in. So I it's
Speaker 1: been an interesting discussion. None of them are bad films,
Speaker 1: but it's sort of like, oh, we're just you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like we're there to be like, let's take
Speaker 1: down this list. It's bullshit. I think it's more to
Speaker 1: be like, let's talk about these films and look at
Speaker 1: them in a in a way that's critical but yet accessible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and I mean lists like that are all just
Speaker 1: tough and problematic and subjective anyway. Yeah, but it's a
Speaker 1: cool way to tackle it for a podcast. I think, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you, you know, And I think that what we're
Speaker 1: trying to struggle with two is talking about and this
Speaker 1: is interesting. Love to hear your opinion about this, Like
Speaker 1: where do you tackle a list that has a hundred
Speaker 1: films on it, none of them directed by women, you know,
Speaker 1: and that like that zero yes, zero, but yeah, you
Speaker 1: have you know, and then you have like some people
Speaker 1: who have some very problematic things to You have like
Speaker 1: a roman Plant Sky and you have a Woody Allen
Speaker 1: and it's like and uh and you have like Roman
Speaker 1: Plants being kicked out of the Academy, Like but now,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean that that movie is not valid.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people get very defensive about that,
Speaker 1: like because there's blackface and swing time too, It's like, well,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean we can't watch it, like, but I
Speaker 1: think it's about like, well, if we are going to
Speaker 1: watch it, though, we have to have a discussion about
Speaker 1: the context we're watching these things in, because it's part
Speaker 1: of the dialogue now it has to be Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I never really thought about that. Boy, no
Speaker 1: women on that list. That's shocking, but also completely not
Speaker 1: surprising at all when you think about it so far.
Speaker 1: I have to say, like, also, uh, non white representation
Speaker 1: is very minimal on that list so far. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get into it, but on the ten movies
Speaker 1: we've done, it's it's nil. I mean, you know, it's well,
Speaker 1: it's sort of an old school list. Yeah, two thousand
Speaker 1: seven is that when it came out? I mean, so,
Speaker 1: you know, lots changed in the best eleven years. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully there'll be a new list, and hopefully
Speaker 1: that list will move things around, you know, and and
Speaker 1: for the right ways. And I also believe it's like,
Speaker 1: let's bring in a movie that we hadn't been on
Speaker 1: the list. I may have come out in nineteen fifty,
Speaker 1: like you know, because like ben Her moved down to
Speaker 1: a hundred, but it was up in the seventies or
Speaker 1: eighties like in the the original list, so you know,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, it's it's I just I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting because you also don't want to put on like
Speaker 1: you want to put Moonlight on that list now because
Speaker 1: it just came out. You need to have a little
Speaker 1: bit of distance through. How does it affect our culture? Uh?
Speaker 1: Because yeah, you don't want it to be like the
Speaker 1: Academy Awards where it's very much like the flavor of
Speaker 1: the month and the way exactly right. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: it's an interesting list. I hope they come up with
Speaker 1: a new one. Yeah, it's um. What I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: doing is listening to your show and watching the movie beforehand,
Speaker 1: because I need someone to force my hand to watch
Speaker 1: a lot of these films because I'm getting to the
Speaker 1: age now and forty seven where I you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not struggling the drain, but I'm starting to think, like
Speaker 1: I need to I haven't seen fucking cassaplane, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to do that and not watch The Hangover again. Well,
Speaker 1: we all have these movie holes, these like gaps in
Speaker 1: our you know, it's like we all do, every single
Speaker 1: one of us, I mean, you know, and and I
Speaker 1: feel like it's interesting to kind of follow them up.
Speaker 1: And also then when you see these movies, you go like, oh,
Speaker 1: like you know, apropot to what we're talking about today,
Speaker 1: Like watching French Connection, I was like, wow, this is
Speaker 1: the genesis of the buddy cop. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: different thing than what lethal weapon is, but you can
Speaker 1: see those seeds and and and I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of fun for me as a movie fan that is,
Speaker 1: you know, more prone to watch you know, John Wick
Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, you it's fun to
Speaker 1: go like, well, where did that, Like, where did that
Speaker 1: come from? Yeah? The genesis of these things? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I just watched Hotel Artemis the other night, and
Speaker 1: that Hotel Artemis is a new movie just came out,
Speaker 1: directed by Drew Pierce and written by Drew Pierce. And
Speaker 1: this is a guy who I kind of came up
Speaker 1: in British comedy circle then got into writing these big,
Speaker 1: giant action movies. He wrote Iron Man three and the
Speaker 1: story for Mission Impossible, and uh, it's just kind have
Speaker 1: been attached to big, big projects and he wrote a script,
Speaker 1: got on the Blacklist and then made this indie movie.
Speaker 1: It stars Jodie Foster and Sterling, Kay Brown and Brian
Speaker 1: Tyree Henry and uh just a Jeff Goldblum, an assortment
Speaker 1: of cool people. And what got me really excited about
Speaker 1: it was it's an indie movie that felt like the
Speaker 1: indie movies that were being made in the nineties, like
Speaker 1: by like Miramax, like you know that Quentin Tarantino being like,
Speaker 1: we support this person and you know, or it felt
Speaker 1: like what dust till Don felt like. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not for everybody. It's kind of like an elevated B
Speaker 1: movie that's cool and weird. And it's like I was saying,
Speaker 1: it's like Ripo Man meets Barton Fink. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like this kind of you know um And it's like
Speaker 1: that to me is so exciting because I feel like
Speaker 1: indie film now has become uh like very mumble corey
Speaker 1: and kind of stuff, and it's so nice to kind
Speaker 1: of get out of that it's genre, which is horror
Speaker 1: and mumblecore. And it's like, oh, I want to see
Speaker 1: like the action, you know, like you know, and and
Speaker 1: I think like and the appreciation for all that, Like
Speaker 1: I like, you see that movie that reminds me of
Speaker 1: Repo Man't watch Repo man again. I want to watch
Speaker 1: parton thing again. I think like, hopefully we fuel each
Speaker 1: other and be like, oh, if you see costa blanket back, Oh,
Speaker 1: now I appreciate this other movie for that, And I
Speaker 1: don't know, it kind of opens up a conversation within yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean they're I mean, how many stories are there?
Speaker 1: What do they say? Yeah, it's like like four stories,
Speaker 1: right are Yeah? Something looks so small and everything is
Speaker 1: a variation on those themes. So, um, yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 1: Where did you grow up? I grew up in Long Island,
Speaker 1: right outside of New York City, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: typical suburban life. Uh, nothing too exciting. I feel like
Speaker 1: as I've gotten older, you know, I moved to New
Speaker 1: York to go to n y U definitely more sheltered
Speaker 1: in my community, which I imagine most people are. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that was you know, but my but my gateway
Speaker 1: out was my parents were divorced and my dad was
Speaker 1: a very um integral and like kind of getting me
Speaker 1: to see cool things, like he would tape Saturday Night
Speaker 1: Live for me before I was old enough to stay
Speaker 1: awake for it, and then we'd watch it on Sunday mornings.
Speaker 1: You know, and he would, um, he had to VCRs
Speaker 1: and we tape stuff and one of the movie We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about today, like he would tape it and
Speaker 1: uh and cut out like the nudity, you know, so
Speaker 1: I could see it and the violence in the beginning,
Speaker 1: but like he knew like I like certain stuff, and
Speaker 1: he like exposed me to it, and that was like
Speaker 1: a really for me, such a cool thing to kind
Speaker 1: of feel like that was my gateway to kind of
Speaker 1: finding stuff. I didn't have brothers and sisters and um
Speaker 1: and the and the people I was growing up with
Speaker 1: like normal stuff. But I was definitely a latch key
Speaker 1: kid who watched a lot of TV, a lot of
Speaker 1: movies and you know, kind of was pulling all this
Speaker 1: stuff in. So my dad really kind of supported that
Speaker 1: was your Did you have an any ideas that you
Speaker 1: could be an actor and a writer or did that
Speaker 1: seem accessible at all to you? You know, yes and no.
Speaker 1: I feel like in the beginning, when you're youthful, you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's what I want to do. And then it
Speaker 1: just seemed to me by the time I went to college,
Speaker 1: because I was in like plays and I was writing
Speaker 1: things in school and and like one of my senior plays,
Speaker 1: like I wrote all the middle stuff, like basically a
Speaker 1: stand up comedy routine in between all these musical numbers,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to do this, UM,
Speaker 1: But then my parents are you have to get go
Speaker 1: to college, you know. So I went to college. I
Speaker 1: went to there to study education, teaching, whatever, and I
Speaker 1: fell in line with this like Upright Systems Brigade Theater,
Speaker 1: which is an improv theater that was doing like kind
Speaker 1: of improv like every time this bill rings ding, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to change the last thing you said. The
Speaker 1: early days of UCB two, well this is a yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Chicago ceiling. It's even pre UCB. They weren't
Speaker 1: even there, and so we were doing like I was doing,
Speaker 1: like not shitty improvably, but very basic short form improv.
Speaker 1: And everyone there, if they didn't have day jobs they were.
Speaker 1: They weren't even like I want an audition for movies
Speaker 1: and I want audition for commercials. There was this kind
Speaker 1: of like a work of day element to it, and
Speaker 1: it just felt like, Oh, the best thing I could
Speaker 1: ever achieve is to get into the main stage of
Speaker 1: this company, and that will be that UM and then
Speaker 1: u CEB came to town and u CBS the Upright
Speaker 1: Systems Brigade kind of this punk rock comedy thing, you know,
Speaker 1: five floors above a hardware store. When I first started
Speaker 1: seeing them, and they blew my mind one suggestion and
Speaker 1: they're doing these crazy improv sets and this is what
Speaker 1: was going on in Chicago, but we didn't feel it
Speaker 1: in New York. And there was so much buzz around them,
Speaker 1: and there were celebrities playing with them, and when I
Speaker 1: was watching them, celebrities that you know now we're all
Speaker 1: playing with. It was Adam McKay and Tina Fey and
Speaker 1: Bryan Stack and Miriam Told and Stack like all these
Speaker 1: people that you would that you've seen in a million things,
Speaker 1: Rachel Trash, but they were just playing on Sunday, you know,
Speaker 1: and they've all grown to become But but celebrities were
Speaker 1: in the audience, and you felt cool as a five
Speaker 1: dollar ticket and you every Sunday night you go watch
Speaker 1: the show. And I was so like, I need to
Speaker 1: get in here. And I got in and that's when
Speaker 1: my world kind of opened and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is attainable, this is actually something I could do,
Speaker 1: and it was good at it and that it could
Speaker 1: be a career because like the UCB were creating their
Speaker 1: own shows. People I was going out with, not going
Speaker 1: out with, but like people I was peers with auditioning
Speaker 1: for commercials and you know they weren't. You just felt like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is alive. And then you know SNL came to
Speaker 1: UCB and I got to be in that show and
Speaker 1: got to audition for SNL a handfull of time, Like
Speaker 1: just like opportunities were coming from being associated with this thing,
Speaker 1: so it didn't It was kind of a multi step process,
Speaker 1: like it was, you know, resigned going to college and
Speaker 1: going like, well I won't ever do this because my
Speaker 1: parents won't pay for that and uh and you know
Speaker 1: it's so hard. And then I got into this one thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this will be where I am
Speaker 1: and I'm happy with that's cool. And then it was
Speaker 1: like whoa, no this. You know, I I attribute everything
Speaker 1: good in my creative life and even my personal life
Speaker 1: to UCB because that's where I met my wife. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well who was in your who's in that crew? In
Speaker 1: your early crew? My early crew was people like Rob Riggle,
Speaker 1: you know from The Hangovers Jaily Show. Rob Quadry also
Speaker 1: from The Daily Show. Um, I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: a rock human giant fan. Thanks so much. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was so just a fun show to do. Rob Hubile,
Speaker 1: Nick Kroll, John Mullaney like, um, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, uh, it's it's kind of everybody that
Speaker 1: is in comedy. You know, it's like and you're just
Speaker 1: kids exactly. We all came to New York, you know,
Speaker 1: like I went to Croll. I went to Georgetown because
Speaker 1: my friend Owen Burke, who runs uh Gary Sanchez Adam
Speaker 1: McKay's company, Like he was like, I want to go
Speaker 1: back to my school. And that's where I met Kroll
Speaker 1: and John mullaney. You know, they were like a couple
Speaker 1: of years younger than us. And then you know, you
Speaker 1: just kind of paired up with people. So the original
Speaker 1: group that we were, uh, we actually all going back
Speaker 1: to New York for the Dell Close Marathon, which is
Speaker 1: a thing, and we're putting together one of the original groups,
Speaker 1: you know. But um, but yeah, it's all these people
Speaker 1: who have had tremendous success, whether it's Scott Armstrong who
Speaker 1: wrote uh, you know, Old School and Elf. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's directors, it's it's writers, Peyton Reid, you know,
Speaker 1: it's directing UCB and hanging out and yeah, he directed
Speaker 1: the show and it was one of my I think
Speaker 1: my first speaking line parts was and I love Peyton
Speaker 1: read because he directed, uh he directed mr show And
Speaker 1: I was like, now he's directing UCB and you know,
Speaker 1: so you just but these are all of our friends.
Speaker 1: We're all doing extra work for fourteen hours a day
Speaker 1: on a UCB show. But it was all these people
Speaker 1: now that have achieved something, you know, from Chris GETHERERD
Speaker 1: to you know, all all across the board. It's crazy, man,
Speaker 1: I mean, there was so much talent. Uh it feels
Speaker 1: like I mean for a guy like me, who are
Speaker 1: who were fans of all you guys, like it seems
Speaker 1: like everybody went on to do great things. Well you
Speaker 1: know what, I think that the uc B and UH
Speaker 1: instilled in all of us this idea of throwing the
Speaker 1: ladder back down right like you know. Uh so when
Speaker 1: they were on Conan and they were getting more successful,
Speaker 1: they were like, well just take all of our students,
Speaker 1: you know. So then all of a sudden, we're starting
Speaker 1: to do Conan. And then you know, when we got
Speaker 1: our opportunities, we would go like, well, who else is around?
Speaker 1: Like if you look at the Human Giant twenty four
Speaker 1: hour marathon where we took over MTV for twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: if you look at those faces in that group, everyone
Speaker 1: that we brought there, they're all of our friends and
Speaker 1: each one of them is doing something very interesting creative.
Speaker 1: But it was like, it's because they are that was it? That?
Speaker 1: That's that's we drew from. We were in stand ups,
Speaker 1: we were this is a community and at that point
Speaker 1: it's probably a community of like a couple hundred people,
Speaker 1: and so it was like, well, when we wanted to
Speaker 1: cast somebody funny, we had the perfect casting pool, right
Speaker 1: you know? Uh So that that's you know, I think
Speaker 1: the reason why you see a lot of cross pollination.
Speaker 1: If you look at NTSF st SUV, which is a
Speaker 1: show I did for adult women, and show this hospital
Speaker 1: that everybody there, you have the Human Giant, that's everybody there.
Speaker 1: We are very often just using people to this day.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like who do I get in? There
Speaker 1: are my friends, and sometimes you have to be like
Speaker 1: who do I try to get in? I have to
Speaker 1: kind of break myself of that mold, you know, because
Speaker 1: it's sort of like I can kind of sometimes get
Speaker 1: so cut off. But what I've been trying to do,
Speaker 1: Like when I did this show Drive Share last year
Speaker 1: with Humile, we just like pulled like the best and
Speaker 1: the brightest from like U c B l A, right,
Speaker 1: And that's so many amazing people, so many funny people.
Speaker 1: That's great because I was kind of wondering about that.
Speaker 1: It seems like, I mean, you CB has now become
Speaker 1: an institution, um, which is great, but there are so
Speaker 1: many people cycling through there, uh that are super talented.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's not like the old days. You know,
Speaker 1: the old days, like you could go to a party
Speaker 1: at U c B party you knew everybody, everyone knew you.
Speaker 1: And now you go to a UCB party and you
Speaker 1: would have maybe one fourth of like you know, it's
Speaker 1: like we could all fit in a space at one point.
Speaker 1: Now it's just not that at all. And I imagine
Speaker 1: you guys are just like gods to these kids out here.
Speaker 1: You know. You know what I would say, I would say,
Speaker 1: I don't even think they know us, honestly, but you know,
Speaker 1: because I think they probably know that we do stuff
Speaker 1: but not because of UCB. They have their own people
Speaker 1: that they came up, Like we had our people that
Speaker 1: we looked up to, and then they had people that
Speaker 1: below us it looked up to. You know, you're always
Speaker 1: looking to the people ahead. And I think that, yes,
Speaker 1: we're there and we've done stuff, and I still do
Speaker 1: an improv show there, and but I I feel like
Speaker 1: the cool thing about u c B is it doesn't
Speaker 1: stand on history. It's like it's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: And that maybe the same attitude that we had, which
Speaker 1: is a very punk rock attitude. It's like, all right,
Speaker 1: the uc B, how can we best the u c B.
Speaker 1: We want to be as good or if not better,
Speaker 1: And then people would watch us and be like I
Speaker 1: want to be like this. And you know, you had
Speaker 1: these factions even within UCB early on, and and like
Speaker 1: polite factions. They were like, you know, we were all friends,
Speaker 1: but it was sort of like I was on a
Speaker 1: group called Respectough. It was like me, Jack McBrayer, Rob Wriggle,
Speaker 1: Robert Hubile, uh, you know, if you handle other people.
Speaker 1: And then there was another group called the Swarm, and
Speaker 1: that was like people like Andy Daly and uh and
Speaker 1: and Andrew se coundon people like that, and the they
Speaker 1: the Swarm took a very slow style of improvising, which
Speaker 1: was an element of UCB and the Four, and then
Speaker 1: we took the fast style of it. And then there
Speaker 1: were people who came after us and they're like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go more respective, We're gonna go more Swarm.
Speaker 1: And then there's just like everyone just kept on building
Speaker 1: off at each other. So you know, we were following
Speaker 1: something and they were copying us and they became So
Speaker 1: it's in a cool way. Everyone's kind of morphing on
Speaker 1: a new thing. So you don't even get to look
Speaker 1: that far down the line because I think you see,
Speaker 1: he doesn't install pillars. There's not like there's not like
Speaker 1: a wall like at the Groundlings, or like these are
Speaker 1: the people who came before you and these are the Groundlings, right,
Speaker 1: You're just the next crew and that's it, you know,
Speaker 1: which is kind of I like it in the sense
Speaker 1: that you can define yourself in your own way. That's
Speaker 1: why even in our show that we do now, I
Speaker 1: play with people that are younger and came up in
Speaker 1: a way different time than us, just like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but we play similarly and you play good. So that's it.
Speaker 1: What are you doing now at u C Which it's
Speaker 1: called Facebook, which is a show that we started when
Speaker 1: you see Be Opened in l A, which I think
Speaker 1: now is over like twelve years ago. But um, the
Speaker 1: idea of it is, uh, we take a look at
Speaker 1: somebody's Facebook profile and then we improvise scenes based on it.
Speaker 1: And the reason why we just a random person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they have to sign in and uh and get
Speaker 1: on there. The reason why we started it. It was
Speaker 1: started off actually as MySpace. So that's how long we've
Speaker 1: been doing it. Um. But because people didn't believe improv
Speaker 1: out here, we would do a show in New York.
Speaker 1: We can take one suggestion, we can go for an
Speaker 1: hour and no one would out it here. We had
Speaker 1: to kind of spoon feed improv right in the beginning
Speaker 1: we had believe they thought that yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: and we we encountered that every now and then in
Speaker 1: New York, some people like will you write that? Will
Speaker 1: you write that? And you know what you're gonna do?
Speaker 1: The like, no, we're improvising, that's what we're doing that. Well, no,
Speaker 1: you couldn't have done that, And it's like, no, that's
Speaker 1: what we do. We have a Saturday at ten show,
Speaker 1: and um, handful of times people would like want their
Speaker 1: money back because they were told they were seeing improbably
Speaker 1: the dollar and it's improvly, but we it's a funny
Speaker 1: thing because then you tell people we improvise and then
Speaker 1: people are like, well, yeah, but how much the whole thing?
Speaker 1: And believe me, we've done some more than our share
Speaker 1: of bad shows. We improvise like yeah, yeah, but um,
Speaker 1: I think we always joked that our improv is as
Speaker 1: a level where when we think we're having a bad show,
Speaker 1: it's still entertaining to an audience which has taken a
Speaker 1: while to get, you know, to get there. Um. But
Speaker 1: all that to be said, it was sort of like, uh,
Speaker 1: we were coming out to l A. They didn't really
Speaker 1: have an improving at the groundlings Second City had a
Speaker 1: very little footprint here, so we had to show them
Speaker 1: like what we're doing is improvising. We're gonna bring a
Speaker 1: random person up from the audience. There's no and people
Speaker 1: still think we have plants, which is crazy. Bring a
Speaker 1: person up from the audience. We watched him log into
Speaker 1: their computer. We get on there and we start talking
Speaker 1: to him and then We interviewed them for about five
Speaker 1: seven minutes, and then we improvised minutes of scenes and
Speaker 1: we try to tie those scenes to what we've gotten
Speaker 1: out of there. So it just basically it's like it's
Speaker 1: like a magic trick revealed. It's like here it is.
Speaker 1: You're wondering why we're talking in a dentist office. Well
Speaker 1: Sky said, he's a dentist, like you know, so we're
Speaker 1: trying to draw those lines. And we felt like that
Speaker 1: was really beneficial because it lets the audience in and say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's why they can kind of play along with you.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you know, like they're playing a bingo
Speaker 1: in a way, um and not saying thing bad about
Speaker 1: l A audiences. But we wanted to develop a form
Speaker 1: that wasn't just give us a suggestion and let's go
Speaker 1: we you know, So that was our mentality. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's the ultimate compliment though, Like if those people
Speaker 1: that say that like he's a plant or you guys
Speaker 1: really right this right, they need to see bad improv
Speaker 1: because there is bad improv and uh, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to like knock people. People are probably working on
Speaker 1: their their stuff, as as was I for many years too,
Speaker 1: and I mean still but when you see like you
Speaker 1: guys or um, I'm a big fan of the Convoy guys.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and these guys are great yeah or super
Speaker 1: ego and they're just like they're so tight and it's
Speaker 1: like a musical group, you know, when you work with
Speaker 1: each other, it probably does feel written if you're uninitiated,
Speaker 1: as some you know, as an audience member. Well, I
Speaker 1: think people always say that about The League, like people
Speaker 1: are always surprised at the show. He did The League
Speaker 1: on FCS. Such a great show. Thanks We that was
Speaker 1: an improvised show. There was no script. It was curb style,
Speaker 1: like really we just had that yeah, we had a
Speaker 1: twelve page outline, so uh and I wrote a handful
Speaker 1: of those episodes. Was really hard to write because you
Speaker 1: have to yeah, and you have to write, um, a
Speaker 1: scene that lets you know what you need to hit
Speaker 1: for the plot and give you ideas where you can
Speaker 1: be funny, but also we can get away from it.
Speaker 1: Like some of the best stuff in that show and
Speaker 1: was the things that we found in the moment, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's not one take and we're done. We're not
Speaker 1: doing like a Woody Harrelson lost in London kind of thing.
Speaker 1: You know, we're doing a we're doing it like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was a funny bit about the corn, Like, let's
Speaker 1: do that again. And I'll say that to set you
Speaker 1: up in great take two. So you're almost like doing
Speaker 1: like three takes of a scene and by the time
Speaker 1: you get the third take, it's a crafted thing. But
Speaker 1: it all was developed out of this improvised the cameras
Speaker 1: are running and we're using that and we're just refining it,
Speaker 1: you know, and like and that was one of the
Speaker 1: great things about our creators, Jeff and Jackie that they
Speaker 1: were able to, you know, just corral that and then
Speaker 1: kind of put you know, put us in there and
Speaker 1: use stuff. Stuff that we improvised would become integral to
Speaker 1: the show on our characters. It was great. I love
Speaker 1: that show Man. There was every time I tried to
Speaker 1: turn someone onto it, I would have to explain to
Speaker 1: them that it was it was not about fantasy football.
Speaker 1: It was that was sort of a framework, I guess,
Speaker 1: but and you know, if you were also into fantasy football,
Speaker 1: there were great little things peppered in there. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you certainly did not have to be a fan of
Speaker 1: football at all to love that show. Well, that was
Speaker 1: our struggle all along. And I think as show grew,
Speaker 1: especially once it got on Netflix, people got more hip
Speaker 1: to it, especially women. And I found a lot of
Speaker 1: the show was marketed to like dudes, and in all
Speaker 1: the advertising campaign were like footballs and ref whistles, you know,
Speaker 1: and those sports announcer and I slightly misleading. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would always argue, like, no, this is really about people
Speaker 1: in their thirties just trying to be adults. Some have kids,
Speaker 1: some are single, summer divorce, and yes, they're the reason
Speaker 1: why they get together. There. You know, you don't have
Speaker 1: to hang out in a bar to like Cheers, you
Speaker 1: don't have to like you know, uh, you don't have
Speaker 1: to be a genius to like watch Big Bang Theory.
Speaker 1: It's it's like we've just given them a reason to
Speaker 1: exist together and um and to funk with each other
Speaker 1: and yeah and so and so. As the show kind
Speaker 1: of went on, we found like that was a really
Speaker 1: cool thing and we and and so many people are
Speaker 1: I don't watch Fantasy football, they love the show, like great,
Speaker 1: you don't need to like our plots are very rarely
Speaker 1: like the reason I didn't know audition for the show
Speaker 1: was because I was like, I can't improvise about fancy
Speaker 1: football there it's not about fantasy football. And so I
Speaker 1: almost missed an opportunity to do that show because I
Speaker 1: was like I would feel uncomfortable, like you know, talking
Speaker 1: about Lavon Bell or you know, like I can't I
Speaker 1: can't improvise and that like you don't have to. And
Speaker 1: then that was the benefit of it. If you'll indulge
Speaker 1: me a minute for Children's Hospital to one of my
Speaker 1: favorite shows, and it was just, um, just so it's
Speaker 1: kind of one of my favorite kinds of comedy that um.
Speaker 1: I always described to my wife as as silly or dumb,
Speaker 1: but I mean that in the best way, Like dumb
Speaker 1: jokes to me can be an absurdist maybe is a
Speaker 1: better word. Yeah, Well, I mean I think if you
Speaker 1: look at like, you know, Rob Cordrey created that show
Speaker 1: with uh, David Wayne and David Wayne, when you look
Speaker 1: at what hot American summer, you know has that streak,
Speaker 1: and I think that they both kind of worked so
Speaker 1: well together, had set a tone so early on that
Speaker 1: they just kind of nailed this thing. So when I've
Speaker 1: written episodes of that and I was on that show
Speaker 1: and uh, and you knew exactly what they wanted, but
Speaker 1: they were the they were also the arbiters of this.
Speaker 1: The final say and and Rob you know, really really
Speaker 1: had that tone and voice down and you're it's silly,
Speaker 1: it's dumb, it's weird, it's funny. It was so strange. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a bizarre, great show. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think really helped Adult Swim kind of put itself
Speaker 1: on It's on the map. As far as doing live action,
Speaker 1: that was interesting and different. You know, Um, before that,
Speaker 1: I think they were tried taking a lot of shots
Speaker 1: and none of them worked. And then we got to
Speaker 1: kind of, uh, you know, get jump in there and
Speaker 1: they're kind of wake you get to do NTSF, which
Speaker 1: was again like kind of silly and a parody and
Speaker 1: fun and you know, get to do all this sort
Speaker 1: of fun stuff. But before that, there was no there
Speaker 1: is no outlets kind of do it. So Children's kind
Speaker 1: of really blew out that path. Yeah. I mean I
Speaker 1: think everyone of sort of our age group grew up
Speaker 1: loving like the Airplane movies and stuff like Naked Gun,
Speaker 1: and it had been a long time like that kind
Speaker 1: of parody sort of went out of fashion, right and
Speaker 1: I think Children's Hospital. We were trying to pick that
Speaker 1: up a little bit about that and a lot. We
Speaker 1: were always saying that, like the thing about Naked Gunn
Speaker 1: and Airplane was that they were funny movies that had big,
Speaker 1: crazy jokes in them, right, But it wasn't like the
Speaker 1: Waynes Brothers movies, which are so referential that like the
Speaker 1: way that you get the joke is because you saw Borats,
Speaker 1: you know that that joke or you saw the happening
Speaker 1: so and and no offense to that style of coming.
Speaker 1: But we definitely went into the parody version of it
Speaker 1: instead of like and I don't know if it's maybe
Speaker 1: the better word is satire. But you know what, I
Speaker 1: love Police Squad and I loved you know, Airplane. But
Speaker 1: you didn't need to know anything more than the trope
Speaker 1: of it's a cop show, it's a plane thing and
Speaker 1: we're in And so that was something we always tried
Speaker 1: to do, is like, you know, we need to create
Speaker 1: real characters, real stakes, real things, and do jokes around them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there was something about this sort of a stroke
Speaker 1: of genius I think to hit on that fifteen minute
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, link it was it was you never got
Speaker 1: tired of it because it literally was eleven minutes and
Speaker 1: twelve seconds of yeah, and a lot done in that
Speaker 1: eleven minutes. So it's crazy. Oh yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: found it. Actually, it's been hard to transition into yeah
Speaker 1: when you when when you are used to being so
Speaker 1: you're executing in you know, eleven pages an, A, B
Speaker 1: and C plot yea and and you know challenge and
Speaker 1: all that great stuff. You know, it's fun. That's great. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, so I guess we should get into Beverly Hills. Cop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was your your pick, which, um I think you did?
Speaker 1: You have another pick two that you were debating, was
Speaker 1: just the one I felt like, I remember that when
Speaker 1: you asked me about it. I may have submitted to,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember the other one. I don't either.
Speaker 1: I've been I've been in this new phase, which has
Speaker 1: been not trying to be cool about what I like
Speaker 1: because like, there's like a thing that was going on
Speaker 1: with film Struck. It was like film Struck for what
Speaker 1: are you? And everyone would be like, well, I'm part
Speaker 1: you know, Before Sunrise, but also part uh, you know, Avengers,
Speaker 1: but also part this and and and you could tell
Speaker 1: that everyone was trying to like check every box. And
Speaker 1: for me, and I'm not saying that everyone has to
Speaker 1: be this, but I was a kid of the eighties
Speaker 1: and for me, when my film Struck four kind of
Speaker 1: open my eyes because like, no, I Am Back to
Speaker 1: the Future, Empire Strikes Back, die Hard. Yeah, Like, those
Speaker 1: are the movies that I've watched the most that I
Speaker 1: don't know if they have defined me, but they are me.
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's like and I could only judge
Speaker 1: it by the movies I've watched the most times. And
Speaker 1: those are the movies I watched the most times. I
Speaker 1: watched Raiders of Lost Art, die Hard, Back to the Future,
Speaker 1: you know these movies, and and Beverly Hills Cop is
Speaker 1: like a close fifth, and probably even maybe even gets
Speaker 1: into that four occasionally because it's like the movies I
Speaker 1: love that gri up on that I didn't have any
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be cool, like I like this
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch it into the ground. Uh. I
Speaker 1: was thirteen, the great Martin Bress who Midnight Run is
Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite movies. Absolutely, Midnight Run
Speaker 1: to me is a perfect, perfect film and and another
Speaker 1: movie that doesn't get that much credit. And Martin Brest
Speaker 1: made these two kind of very interesting movies, and you know,
Speaker 1: yeah again you're get in this thing. We're like, oh
Speaker 1: yeah that Martin Midnight Run. Can talk about that forever,
Speaker 1: It's okay, Yeah, I mean Midnight Run is one of
Speaker 1: those where I cannot not watch it if I happened
Speaker 1: upon it. It's such a great film, you know. To
Speaker 1: say about Martin Brest too, it's interesting because he also
Speaker 1: is the guy behind Geelie, which is the well that's
Speaker 1: what killed his career. And it's such a bummer because
Speaker 1: he also was behind these two you know, more than
Speaker 1: two seminal work. I mean, you know, and what I'm
Speaker 1: always impressed with this movie, uh in particular is you know,
Speaker 1: the whole story behind it was like Sylvester Stallone was
Speaker 1: supposed to this movie. Yeah. I read a little bit
Speaker 1: about that, which is crazy to think about. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and so he I think that the the character name,
Speaker 1: I think it was acts. I think it was Axel
Speaker 1: Cobra or Cobretti ac Coretti. He took the Cobretti brought
Speaker 1: it over to Cobra and maybe some elements from Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Cop brought that over and then this movie just is
Speaker 1: kind of laying in waste. And any Murphy had this
Speaker 1: opening at SNL and it was like, can we get
Speaker 1: this thing going? And it was one of those let's
Speaker 1: slot him in and let's do this really quick, and
Speaker 1: they did. And I think it's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I like this movie and why I kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it, because it shows that you
Speaker 1: can make a good cop movie without having to play
Speaker 1: up the comedy. You cast a funny person to make
Speaker 1: the funnies so funny. But it's like, if you were
Speaker 1: to make this today, you would have a lot of
Speaker 1: funny set pieces. You don't have funny set pieces. You
Speaker 1: have cop set pieces, and and there's a difference. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why these movies, or this movie in particular,
Speaker 1: really works. It's like Eddie Murphy is just like just
Speaker 1: exploding with you know, kind of charm and it's just
Speaker 1: like peaque Eddie Murphy. Yeah, it is like post forty
Speaker 1: eight hours kind of coming into his own and he's
Speaker 1: a little bit older, but not that much, and he
Speaker 1: carries this movie on his shoulders. But you kind of
Speaker 1: just feel like, I don't know you you don't see
Speaker 1: that transition a lot. I think you see movies that
Speaker 1: that cater towards uh, you know, the cater towards the
Speaker 1: comedy as well. It's a comedy, it's and you know
Speaker 1: that's why I think, I don't know, it's there's something
Speaker 1: about it that I was like, Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1: If they would have developed it for a year, would
Speaker 1: it have been as good? Right? Yeah, yeah, totally And
Speaker 1: he was And this is Eddie Murphy. Um, there's been
Speaker 1: a few times in like the modern era where you
Speaker 1: can kind of clearly say, like, this is the funniest
Speaker 1: person on the planet right now, and Eddie Murphy owned
Speaker 1: that title for a while. Oh percent. I mean it's
Speaker 1: crazy to think the kids now or people now, I
Speaker 1: should say, our kids anymore. I don't know him as
Speaker 1: a comedian. They know him as like a Disney Dr
Speaker 1: Doolittle kind of guy. And it's I would give anything
Speaker 1: to see Eddie Murphy like back doing something just I
Speaker 1: don't even be like holding the gun and running around,
Speaker 1: but just creatively fulfilling. Like there was a pilot that
Speaker 1: I got to watch. It was the Beverly Hills Cop
Speaker 1: TV show pilot that was done by Sean Ryan. I
Speaker 1: believe um and Eddie Murphy is in it as Axel Folly.
Speaker 1: The show is about his son and no offense to
Speaker 1: anyone in that movie or that TV show. But when
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy comes on as Exel Folly, so this is
Speaker 1: this is like about two years ago. He runs circles
Speaker 1: around everyone. It's so exciting to see him just kill
Speaker 1: this character. The one thing that's funny about it, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, is that there's a little bit more Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy and Axel than in that version, because Axel's dressed
Speaker 1: real nice, you know, and uh st he he It
Speaker 1: looks like Eddie Murphy kind of like the metro version
Speaker 1: of Eddie Murphy that movie that he the narrow in
Speaker 1: a but the energy is there. It's the right He's
Speaker 1: doing everything right. And all I could think of is
Speaker 1: the reason why this pilot didn't go is because you
Speaker 1: watch it and go, I want to see is more
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy, Like I want to see him do the show.
Speaker 1: And he was just sort of a side set up character.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was a dad and he would
Speaker 1: be in a handful of episodes. Judge Reinhold was going
Speaker 1: to be like the main guy. I think he'd become
Speaker 1: like the mayor Beverly Hills, you know, or or the
Speaker 1: police commissioner he had. He was like the big reveal
Speaker 1: at the end. Um but yeah, you know, and and
Speaker 1: and Edie Murphy to me is you know Beverthill's Cop
Speaker 1: two and all these movies just he was my guy.
Speaker 1: And and I love Bill Murray and I love Steve Martin,
Speaker 1: but there was something about like those guys, feeling that
Speaker 1: those are my dad's guys, and he Murphy felt like
Speaker 1: my guy when I was growing up. We're roughly, you know,
Speaker 1: in the same age, you know, and delirious and raw
Speaker 1: like like like quote those by heart as a kid,
Speaker 1: like some of the funniest stand up I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And like I don't want to knock Eddie Murphy now,
Speaker 1: but it's just so hard to see someone that was
Speaker 1: the funniest person on the planet kind of not be
Speaker 1: that anymore. Well, you know what I think it is
Speaker 1: is like I feel like Eddie has all of it
Speaker 1: at his disposal, and it's almost like it's crazy because
Speaker 1: you look the nutty professor. I watched that recently again,
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa this movie is fucking hilarious, Like he
Speaker 1: kills that movie. And I think at a certain point
Speaker 1: he's just knocking out franchise franchise franchise, like big the
Speaker 1: biggest movie star. And then it's I don't think he's
Speaker 1: getting lazy because he's always good in it. But you
Speaker 1: may surround yourself, you may make yeah, and and I
Speaker 1: don't think that he's or everybody have spoken to when
Speaker 1: they talked about Eddie Murphy and they've dealt with Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy is like, mentally he is with it. He knows
Speaker 1: what is good, he knows what is solid. But I
Speaker 1: think in his mind is like, I will do these
Speaker 1: kid movies that pay me. I'm getting twenty million dollars
Speaker 1: twice a year, making forty million dollars and they're going
Speaker 1: to do great. I don't even have to worry about
Speaker 1: even promoting them. It's like the Adam Sandler model. If
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler went to go do kids movies and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know there's but when you watch him in
Speaker 1: dream Girls, you're like, yeah, he's got it. He's got
Speaker 1: it all, Like he's always got it. It's just like
Speaker 1: but not always in the right thing. Like I said,
Speaker 1: that Beverly Hills cop TV. Yeah, it's still there. It's
Speaker 1: not like and there's so many people we can point
Speaker 1: to that where at the heightened and not to call names,
Speaker 1: but like Chevy Chase, hilariously funny guy once at the
Speaker 1: top of his game, one of the funniest people in America.
Speaker 1: He doesn't got it, Like I don't think he I don't.
Speaker 1: I think when he gets it, it's a hit or miss.
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy is like, yeah, great, put me in the
Speaker 1: right thing and I'll just kill this for you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And my as an amateur psychologist, always see Eddie Murphy
Speaker 1: and think, man, what he needs to do is do
Speaker 1: an hour stand up again and kind of go back
Speaker 1: to his roots and challenge himself. Yeah. Um, but why
Speaker 1: challenge yourself when you when you are that rich? But
Speaker 1: how many millions does he need? Like he's there? Well,
Speaker 1: that that's why I think he's kind of retired. I
Speaker 1: mean he hasn't native movie in five or six years.
Speaker 1: I mean like he pops up like in like that movie,
Speaker 1: like that little drama film about the piano player left,
Speaker 1: but it's like he's not trying to do anything like
Speaker 1: after Norbit. Yeah, and I don't know if maybe if
Speaker 1: that's the calculated play where he's like, Okay, I need
Speaker 1: to disappear so when I come back, I'll be Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 1: I can't just be like Norbit and dream Girls in
Speaker 1: the same year because it it recks the brand, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's a big risk. I mean it's easy
Speaker 1: for me to say, go back up and do stand
Speaker 1: up again and challenge yourself, but like there's a lot
Speaker 1: at stake there because if he if it's not there,
Speaker 1: then that tarnishes the brand. Well. It also is a
Speaker 1: different era because you know, Eddie didn't always write his
Speaker 1: own stand up, you know, especially when you talk about
Speaker 1: like Delirious, Like there's a lot of writers there, you know,
Speaker 1: Keen and ye Keen and Ivory Waynes is like a
Speaker 1: writer friend. Yeah, Like, I mean they're credited, so it's
Speaker 1: not even a hidden thing, I feel like. And look,
Speaker 1: I think you talk to people like Apatow and Kevin
Speaker 1: Hart and all these people, like when you get to
Speaker 1: a certain level and you you are working with people
Speaker 1: and it's like here's a genesis, how about this or
Speaker 1: how about that? And people help and it's uh, I've
Speaker 1: always heard that, you know, like because it's I think
Speaker 1: when you get to a level of celebrity that's so big,
Speaker 1: you can't just like work out at the clubs, like
Speaker 1: your your obligations preclude you from doing that, you know.
Speaker 1: And and Kevin Hart is the only example I can
Speaker 1: look at. Who's some guy who's like hustles out at
Speaker 1: the club. And Patton Oswal like gets out at the club.
Speaker 1: But Pat's not getting out five nights a week, Pats
Speaker 1: getting We talked about this. I did his f y C.
Speaker 1: You know, he's getting out like once a month, a
Speaker 1: big show at Largo and once a week. Uh, like
Speaker 1: clubs around do you need somebody be like hey what
Speaker 1: about that? Maybe this you know, it's it's good. Uh
Speaker 1: So I had a Mumford physed shirt when I was
Speaker 1: in high school. I got one in my closet right now.
Speaker 1: It was a big deal. This movie is a big
Speaker 1: deal to me. And uh it was cool seeing it
Speaker 1: as an adult now because so many things jump out
Speaker 1: at me, like what a good acting performance he gives
Speaker 1: comedy aside, Yeah there's some like legit good in this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah he I mean, yeah, his friend gets killed. I
Speaker 1: mean the only you believe all that stuff. There's something
Speaker 1: so interesting about how gritty the movie is when it opens,
Speaker 1: like you you know, you're hearing a Glenn Fry, the
Speaker 1: heat is on you, and you're going through you know,
Speaker 1: Detroit at a period of time where Detroit is. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I don't think the troits sound much better right now,
Speaker 1: but but you know, you're you're capturing this vibe and
Speaker 1: and you you from the moment you get in and
Speaker 1: you hear those things like you're like, oh, this is different,
Speaker 1: Like this is not glossing. I think it does a
Speaker 1: great contrast to Beverly Hills. But you know, but that
Speaker 1: you're seeing this world and he fits so perfect. It
Speaker 1: doesn't think a movie star in Detroit. Like when he's
Speaker 1: getting balled out by the police chief, he's great, actual
Speaker 1: police chief, that guy. I think I knew that. Uh,
Speaker 1: And he says, fuck uh, I don't know something like
Speaker 1: I don't think it makes my dickitch. That's it's amazing.
Speaker 1: And but when he's in that like it's the only
Speaker 1: time you have seen like a like a precinct that
Speaker 1: looked like a precinct, like all those cops, like it's
Speaker 1: like a communal like kind of Jim Locker Room, Like
Speaker 1: everything about it feels real, tangible and real. And the
Speaker 1: fact that he's friends with this like former criminal who's
Speaker 1: coming back and stealing these barrel bonds, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you're right, it just feels it doesn't feel like he's
Speaker 1: winking at it doesn't feel like he's above it. It
Speaker 1: feels like he's a part of this landscape. And when
Speaker 1: he goes to Beverly Hills. I think that's why it
Speaker 1: works so good, because he doesn't feel he feels like
Speaker 1: the outcast. And if you were to make a big
Speaker 1: argument on Beverly's Cop two, which I also love, he's
Speaker 1: worked the system. He's he's in the system. He doesn't
Speaker 1: feel daunted by the system. Where here you feel like
Speaker 1: it has those elements of like, here's a black man
Speaker 1: walking around Beverly Hills, why is he there? And they
Speaker 1: basically pick him up, you know, like he's getting around
Speaker 1: he's a black guy in Beverly Hills. And and and and
Speaker 1: then the movie is about race. It is it's it's
Speaker 1: out there in the front line, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's cool too that they're playing that, like it's it's yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not shying away from that. I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of the Yeah, and I love his relationship with uh,
Speaker 1: well with both Mikey uh and the uh what was
Speaker 1: it Jenny Jenny and Jenny who is great and like
Speaker 1: one of those I don't know, you probably been doing
Speaker 1: this podcast, like see all these actresses that kind of disappear,
Speaker 1: like these actors. Yeah, there's like they just do like
Speaker 1: one or two movies and they're gone. And it's such
Speaker 1: a bizarre world that we lived in in the eighties
Speaker 1: where it was like you are a leading lady and
Speaker 1: it disappeared, like you know, like very rarely is there
Speaker 1: the Gina Davis and Fletch that goes on to be
Speaker 1: like Gina Davis, Like you know, it's it's yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good point, but you really believe
Speaker 1: that the nature of their relationship, like and Mikey at
Speaker 1: the beginning when he tells him he loves him, and yeah,
Speaker 1: those are some like those are some pretty like profound
Speaker 1: for this movie, profound moments and and you don't see
Speaker 1: it in a movie like this, like you would never
Speaker 1: see like Mikey's all drunk and he's kind of holding
Speaker 1: him by his head and and you know in stease
Speaker 1: of the whole idea, which is like he took the
Speaker 1: hit for Acxel, like he's still a car. He went
Speaker 1: to jail, Axel didn't and Axel's now cop and Mikey
Speaker 1: is you know, not till Yeah, it's still kind of
Speaker 1: and so but it just shows you, like also economy,
Speaker 1: it's like you get, you get it all. You get
Speaker 1: these guys you get like you don't feel like he's
Speaker 1: like threatening and like I took this hit for you.
Speaker 1: You did it. He's drunkenly kind of telling him like
Speaker 1: I remember that, like you know, and he's there's a
Speaker 1: real like yeah, that guy who plays Mikey is actually
Speaker 1: very good. Yeah he's really gonna great Sleeves Backs and
Speaker 1: the eighties Midnight Running another great you know, like you
Speaker 1: just you could smell these guys well, the great John
Speaker 1: Ashton from both of the Night Running this, he's so
Speaker 1: good in this, and you know how versatile John Ashton
Speaker 1: is because John Aston is one way and this one
Speaker 1: be and in another way in Midnight Run and there
Speaker 1: you don't even really like it's like, oh he's a
Speaker 1: good just a solid actor, like you just do it
Speaker 1: because it's fully different performances, like I mean, one is
Speaker 1: a scumbag and one is like a very uptight He's
Speaker 1: not even the cool Beverly Hills cop. He's the uptight
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills cop. Like he punches Axel in the stomach
Speaker 1: and you believe, like you're gonna go oh, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is an asshole. Like well, I love that scene too, because, um,
Speaker 1: the cop thing sort of overrides all that because you know,
Speaker 1: he asked the police chief or not the chief, but
Speaker 1: the head of the department asked he wants to press charges? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and actuals like no, man like like we're cops, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. Yeah, there's I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on out here. Yeah, there's something about
Speaker 1: this movie. And because I'm a big cop movie fan.
Speaker 1: I love buddy cops. I love action movies that you
Speaker 1: know talking about like there's something about it that these
Speaker 1: are the unvarnished ones like the you know, I put
Speaker 1: Midnight Run in there too. They're not cough, but you
Speaker 1: just they feel like they're They're just more gritty. They
Speaker 1: have an indie field to them, like lesa weapon. One
Speaker 1: is decidedly not versus all their sequels. Like there, it's grittier.
Speaker 1: It feels like these are car movie. Yeah, um, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I know we're talking about relationships to bid. I
Speaker 1: do love the action sequences in this, Like that opening
Speaker 1: action sequence with a big cigarette truck just creaming around
Speaker 1: the streets of Detroit looks like the most dangerous stunt
Speaker 1: ever and it feels more exciting in many ways in
Speaker 1: a fast and furious movie because you know there's no
Speaker 1: c G I. That's a real truck. They demolish like
Speaker 1: fifty cars in that scene. Like that was an arrow
Speaker 1: where I mean again like the Blues Brothers arrow where
Speaker 1: you're just like destroying cars because you could. And there's
Speaker 1: something so like like tactile about just watching this like this,
Speaker 1: you know is the you know, the semi just going down,
Speaker 1: cigarettes are flying and there's a real guy hanging onto that.
Speaker 1: These days there would be they would sit a front
Speaker 1: of computer and map it all out and what could
Speaker 1: be real And back then they were like, let's get
Speaker 1: fifty junkers and just fucking plow through them. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: violently as we can. It's and there and like once
Speaker 1: you get like that's the opening of the movie and
Speaker 1: he's getting reprimanded the right way for that. It's like
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not you know, it's bad news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and of course Gil Hill is the chief here.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a trope as the as the
Speaker 1: grumpy police chief as Inspector Todd, but he brought a
Speaker 1: profanity to it that just pushed it so far beyond
Speaker 1: that trope. Well, here's the thing I agree with you
Speaker 1: and talking about what we're talking about before, like where
Speaker 1: does the copy begin? Like you know, sort of like
Speaker 1: die Hard. I can point to a million movies that
Speaker 1: do very similar things to die Hard that becomes tropes
Speaker 1: because of the die Hards, and we watch die Hard
Speaker 1: now that's a trope, is like but did they start that?
Speaker 1: You know? And and and yeah, and like French connection
Speaker 1: has like a you know, a surily kind of uh boss,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know it's funny because we were
Speaker 1: our landscape now is a with what worked, Like Couple
Speaker 1: was the number one movie of like nineteen eighty was
Speaker 1: a eighthor you you know, so like that gets in
Speaker 1: green everyone who's writing movies movies like, oh well we
Speaker 1: need that, we need that cop, we need that guy
Speaker 1: to ball out Schwarzeninger, we need that guy to you know,
Speaker 1: and and it becomes a copy of a copy of
Speaker 1: the copy of copy, and sometimes it works. And I
Speaker 1: agree he added a profanity, like it was so over
Speaker 1: the top, it's so crazy, and and and because he's
Speaker 1: a real guy, you also feel like it feels real
Speaker 1: because he's not like he's like, I'm taking your badge
Speaker 1: of gun, He's like what, Like, what the funk are
Speaker 1: you doing? Like, you know, I don't know they're uh.
Speaker 1: Victor Maitland one of the great uh eighties style driving
Speaker 1: proc now right, yea batties he was made it in
Speaker 1: this movie. And the other scene that really got me, Um,
Speaker 1: you know Bronson Pinchot Pinchow, how do you pronounce that
Speaker 1: pin show? Right? Yeah, yeah, I think so. His seeing
Speaker 1: as Sara was always like one of the funniest things
Speaker 1: as a kid to watch, But watching it now years later,
Speaker 1: for the first time in a while, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy is so generous as the straight guy in
Speaker 1: that scene and he is sitting back and like he's
Speaker 1: the biggest funniest movie star in the world or about
Speaker 1: to be, And he totally takes a back seat and
Speaker 1: says I'm gonna totally be the straight guy in the scene.
Speaker 1: And again that like, I feel like Eddie Murphy like
Speaker 1: it's that thing that you forget. It's like he just
Speaker 1: lets someone hit a home run. He's enjoying it, and
Speaker 1: you see the like and and he's getting to hit
Speaker 1: home runs every other scene, like every scene. Basically, it
Speaker 1: feels like a cop movie that they were like, we
Speaker 1: can't really work on the script. We gotta go into
Speaker 1: production like six weeks. So they're all right, so now
Speaker 1: you go to the country club and you can front
Speaker 1: Victor Maitland's like, and then Eddie Murphy w be like,
Speaker 1: um okay, great, So before I go in there, I'll
Speaker 1: do my little scene with the guy who wants the
Speaker 1: country girl, and that would be the comedy. And it's
Speaker 1: almost like we should be writing cop movies like our
Speaker 1: comedy cop movies that I think the Heat feels very
Speaker 1: much like that, where the comedy is a part of
Speaker 1: the actual story and taking over because basically, like every
Speaker 1: scene of this movie, he's doing all the cop things
Speaker 1: you took. You could easily make an edit of this
Speaker 1: that has little to no jokes in it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that Sarah scene doesn't need to be in there,
Speaker 1: but it's just fucking funny. It's like it's a sort
Speaker 1: of like a flourish on top of the scene. It's
Speaker 1: like and it's yeah, the movie functions, I guess maybe
Speaker 1: that's what I'm getting at, Like the movie functions perfectly
Speaker 1: without any of those scenes. But those scenes are so
Speaker 1: additive to your experience of the movie because you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm laughing now, all of a sudden, this guy's getting
Speaker 1: shot in the head and it's real and it's real,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it feels real and and and
Speaker 1: especially Taggert and Rosewood, which is uh, you know John
Speaker 1: Ashton and and I'm gonna get they are. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: clues costs, but they're also not super cops. Like that's
Speaker 1: the other thing that no one's like, actually has a
Speaker 1: couple moves, but they're not doing anything to the movie.
Speaker 1: Call culminates in a shootout and a guy's mansion. It's
Speaker 1: not like a scarface like shootout. Yeah, it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not too big. I don't know. I like that, yeah
Speaker 1: for sure. Um and even uh, not to harp too
Speaker 1: much on that sers scene, but as the straight man.
Speaker 1: He's still being very funny. Oh absolutely, with his being small,
Speaker 1: you know, going small with his reactions. It's very subtle.
Speaker 1: But I was just cracking up at Eddie Murphy in
Speaker 1: that scene. I agree, one of my favorite scenes. It's
Speaker 1: actually really funny in this movie as well. And it's
Speaker 1: a small performance and they don't know the actor's name,
Speaker 1: but they go to the warehouse to kind of look
Speaker 1: at stuff. He encounters a security guard. He has a
Speaker 1: whole funny scene with that guy. But then they go
Speaker 1: to the file room and he's looking through the files
Speaker 1: and Eddie Murphy starts lashing at at this like one guy,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a nerdy guy, and he's like
Speaker 1: that your Porsche? Is that your Porsche out there? And
Speaker 1: he's like and he's like you know, because he's like
Speaker 1: basically it's like just chastising this guy. And and then
Speaker 1: they let him do his work and he's doing his
Speaker 1: work and the guy's like, no, sir, that's my Porsche.
Speaker 1: I don't know who sports said it. And it's such
Speaker 1: a funny, like like it's just a great little moment
Speaker 1: and the movie allows and I think Martin Brest does
Speaker 1: this again in Midnight Run. Everyone gets like these like
Speaker 1: little things like Charles Groden never been as great as
Speaker 1: he is in that film. And and I would argue,
Speaker 1: you know, Martin Brest, Uh, I want to say, in
Speaker 1: the best play possible, hurt Robert de Niro's career and
Speaker 1: making him so funny in Midnight Run, because they'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: he will be funny and a lot of things. And
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, no, if you use him right,
Speaker 1: he will be You're like, like I think Meet the
Speaker 1: Parents He's used perfectly and it is great. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Adventures a Rocky and Bullwinkle, you know, sure, but like
Speaker 1: and it's like like, I think by showing off that
Speaker 1: side of Denaria, he could be funny. And then and
Speaker 1: then you misuse him, and then you set the first
Speaker 1: funny role he had Midnight Run. I feel like it
Speaker 1: has to be I think that was a big deal
Speaker 1: because it was it wasn't even like, uh, it wasn't
Speaker 1: even like he's you know, Charles Grodan is definitely leading
Speaker 1: the comedy. But but but it's all very kind of
Speaker 1: dead dead pan's and but they're I mean, looking back,
Speaker 1: it's funny like Groden and DeNiro are literally one of
Speaker 1: the great comedy duos in film history to me, because
Speaker 1: they were so great together at Midnight Run. Yeah they are.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking up right now like we're Robert in
Speaker 1: because I'm pretty positive it's like my friends and I, uh,
Speaker 1: my friend Brett and I quote Midnight Run maybe more
Speaker 1: than any other film it is. I I watched that
Speaker 1: movie at least, you know, twice a year. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's such a great film, and you know, and
Speaker 1: I love showing it to people because it's a movie
Speaker 1: that and and this, and I'll say this about Beverly
Speaker 1: Hill's Cop the same thing. I love showing this movie
Speaker 1: to people because their impression of what Eddie Murphy is
Speaker 1: is so different. And I remember showing this to my wife.
Speaker 1: She's like, wow, this is really good and you and
Speaker 1: it is. It's like it's it's it's a good performance.
Speaker 1: It's a good comedy performance. And it's a good action
Speaker 1: movie that actually has like a pretty solid mystery, like
Speaker 1: the way that like all these traps, you know, like
Speaker 1: you know, for whatever a cop movie is like you know,
Speaker 1: it's small. I think that's the thing I really like
Speaker 1: about it too. It's like we're so used to you know, oh,
Speaker 1: they're transporting nuclear weapons or this. It's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: an art dealer who's like smuggling coke in It's like,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not, um it's a minor crime. It's
Speaker 1: a believable crime even though they're getting and it never
Speaker 1: gets convoluted. You know, it's a pretty simple story, which
Speaker 1: is what you want because you want Eddie Murphy to
Speaker 1: come in there and have his pieces with the Banana
Speaker 1: Man and just like these little things that are peppered
Speaker 1: throughout the movie. Damon Wayne's also in a little part
Speaker 1: there's so funny and that debut screen debut and also
Speaker 1: arguably you know, this is a movie where you know
Speaker 1: there are some problematic elements too. Yeah, but but but
Speaker 1: not as bad as not not terrible, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: like like that, Damon Wayne's caricature of a gay man
Speaker 1: is pretty uh intense. Yeah, this is the first time
Speaker 1: I just go back to de Narrow. He did a
Speaker 1: comedy because he was coming off of like Angel Heart
Speaker 1: and a lot of heavy ship. But once upon Time
Speaker 1: in America and the King of King of Comedy, Oh
Speaker 1: King of Comedy is uh yeah, well darkest. But then
Speaker 1: after after Midnight Run, you're getting into where no angels
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then it just kind of
Speaker 1: kind of started at all, didn't it. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: and then it's like Mad Dog and Glory, which is
Speaker 1: still a little straight, but he and like it's interesting
Speaker 1: to watch his career because I watched all these movies.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it just started, like there's certainly these like
Speaker 1: little left field choices one of the other funny scenes,
Speaker 1: and again, like with the sage scene, like they definitely
Speaker 1: just pop these little things in there, Like Eddie Murphy
Speaker 1: could have gone to the restaurant to confront Victor Maitland
Speaker 1: and just gone straight in there, but no, he goes
Speaker 1: in there with the you know, the capricorn. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and it just like it makes the whole thing better.
Speaker 1: Well just again, it's just showing how you can be
Speaker 1: additive without derailing a movie. And I think there's like
Speaker 1: there's a great thing for you know, like, to me,
Speaker 1: my number one movie in this like genre of what
Speaker 1: I love and try to aspire to. And this may
Speaker 1: have been the movie I've said, but I feel like
Speaker 1: I talked about it so many times. Is Ghostbusters like
Speaker 1: Ghostbusters to me? Yeah, because Ghostbusters to me is a
Speaker 1: kind of a perfect movie in the sense that it
Speaker 1: is it works fully as like a sci fi film
Speaker 1: that has like really funny comedy beats like you know,
Speaker 1: um that are not distracting from the pot or not
Speaker 1: derailing the pot, not sung at your characters for the pot.
Speaker 1: And if it was so easy to do, we'd have
Speaker 1: a million of them. And we don't have a million
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills cops. We don't have a million Ghostbusters. It's
Speaker 1: every now and then you get this thing. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's good, like and I think like the Heat is
Speaker 1: the closest I've seen lately that kind of is a
Speaker 1: funny cop movie, but you know, there's still big things
Speaker 1: in it. But Ghostbusters is arguably people try so many
Speaker 1: times to capture what that is. But I think it's
Speaker 1: like partly is like keeping it small. But I think
Speaker 1: where in an era where everything has to be big,
Speaker 1: like you would never be able to make this movie.
Speaker 1: Now this is an independent movie Beverlyll's cop at this point,
Speaker 1: like you know it because it would have they would
Speaker 1: have to be a house exploding, a free rate chase,
Speaker 1: like you can't just get away with throwing a guy
Speaker 1: through a plate glass window and it's a dialogue basis itself.
Speaker 1: Get rid of it. He goes like myself, they're a
Speaker 1: blake glass window. But yeah, I do think that the movie,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, and I think one of the seminal
Speaker 1: scenes is we talked about before, like the idea of race,
Speaker 1: and like the idea that you know, he uses they
Speaker 1: are racially profiling him, and then he uses race against them,
Speaker 1: and and that's constantly the battle of the movie. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to count a room at the
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Hotel tonight. When you hear that, you're like, whoa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So he's trying to get in there, and he uses
Speaker 1: race against them, and then the talent is using race
Speaker 1: against him to kind of minimize them, and everywhere he
Speaker 1: goes he works it to his advantage when he can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's status. It's like playing these status things and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I it's one of those movies. And I
Speaker 1: always try to find these movies, whether it's Galaxy Quest
Speaker 1: was Midnight Runs Cop, these movies that are a little
Speaker 1: bit lower um on the scale of like they're not
Speaker 1: like of reverence. Yes, people aren't sitting around and we
Speaker 1: like we talk about Platoon. It's like you're not putting
Speaker 1: them in the conversation of the greatest comedies of all
Speaker 1: time or the greatest action movies of all time. But
Speaker 1: there are great examples of these great movies that it's
Speaker 1: so work and are fulfilling. I mean, you just watched it,
Speaker 1: uh you said the other night? Was it like? Did
Speaker 1: you enjoy your experience in watching? It was like a
Speaker 1: fun I had a blast and it was um. I
Speaker 1: think the reason one of the reasons some of these
Speaker 1: movies aren't included like that is it's so eighties R
Speaker 1: and um. It's so easy to to write it off
Speaker 1: for that reason if you don't really sit down and
Speaker 1: watch it, if you think, like you hear fucking neutron
Speaker 1: dance and the heat is on and all these and
Speaker 1: it's actually kind of funny. It was a great time
Speaker 1: to be like a middle age black woman that's a performer,
Speaker 1: because I forgot like there were so many those just
Speaker 1: like a string of hits, so that like that soundtrack
Speaker 1: I owned and played so many times and it's still
Speaker 1: even have it as like a Spotify playlist on my phone.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, it's great and like, you know what
Speaker 1: I love about it too, It's eighties without being overtly eighties.
Speaker 1: Like there's a scene where he's driving through Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: and he looks at this guy dressed as like basically
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson thriller, and it's like laughing at it because
Speaker 1: like it's almost like saying, like that's how certain people
Speaker 1: are living the eighties. But when you look at Detroit, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just jeans and T shirts or you know, it's
Speaker 1: like it's there's nothing nothing eight there's they're not like
Speaker 1: throwing eighties ship in there. It's like the music and
Speaker 1: everything he feels like that, but it just feels more
Speaker 1: along the lines of like Evand's aesthetic in an eighties movie,
Speaker 1: but with all the eighties trappings of those. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a million songs in it at every given point.
Speaker 1: And by the way, speaking of the best instrumental song
Speaker 1: of all time and the absolutely theme, yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: go without mentioning the great Herby Hancock. Oh it's Harold Faltmeyer.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: had I think I just wrote down Herbie Hancock because
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's I mean, yeah, Harold Falter, Yeah right,
Speaker 1: and it's a great It's a top ten hit, wasn't it. Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: And I remember Casey Cason listening to that on Sundays,
Speaker 1: so it's it was a huge it and it's great.
Speaker 1: And I've been told that the best when you have
Speaker 1: an earworm, like when you have a song you can't
Speaker 1: get out of your head, just hum that song and
Speaker 1: it will knock it out. I've always heard Ring of
Speaker 1: Fire by Johnny Cash, so that's great. Alright, alright, so
Speaker 1: there we go. Um, but there's something crazy about that
Speaker 1: because that song came back only a handful of years
Speaker 1: ago form like whatever, like like it was like disco
Speaker 1: frog like like it was a E. M. D kind
Speaker 1: of song. Oh yeah, there's a zillion excel F like
Speaker 1: like tripped out crazy versions that became number one as well.
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy Frog's excel F became number one
Speaker 1: for a little bit. Yeah, it's an iconic A lot
Speaker 1: here to like, a lot, yeah, a lot here to
Speaker 1: like and uh and then it's funny to me. I'm
Speaker 1: always saying, like, I love when you watch the sequels
Speaker 1: because that's when you start to like all right, they
Speaker 1: drive a little bit into different directions, and I still
Speaker 1: love the sequel. I love it, and uh and the
Speaker 1: sequel has a very like it's Don Bruckheimer and uh
Speaker 1: so it has that kind of energy behind and it's
Speaker 1: the beginning of that energy, which is kind of like
Speaker 1: that movie kind of leads to a movie like The Rock,
Speaker 1: and then that The Rock leads to a movie like Transformer.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, you know where it's the beginning
Speaker 1: step of that. So you still are like, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they're running around with the cement truck there, and it's
Speaker 1: a great sequence. Shoot, but you know it's like they're
Speaker 1: playing you know, they're going to Like the perfect example
Speaker 1: of the difference between one and two is they go
Speaker 1: to the Playboy man and in too and it's like okay,
Speaker 1: now that like sure, it's a funny sequence and he's
Speaker 1: talking to you Hefner, but it's like okay, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm just saying, if I'm looking at
Speaker 1: from a critical point of view, it's like that's where
Speaker 1: they kind of like edge that jump into the Shark.
Speaker 1: And then when you go to the number three, it's
Speaker 1: like everything that was good and Eddie Murphy even feels
Speaker 1: like he forgot everything that was good in that movie.
Speaker 1: It's like actor Alizondo, No offense is in there now,
Speaker 1: and it's like, what the funk am I watching? And
Speaker 1: and I think one of the reasons it's so good
Speaker 1: is like Ronnie Cox man, he's so great, just an
Speaker 1: amazing guy. I got to direct him. I directed an
Speaker 1: episode Children's Hospital with Ronnie cox and it was everything
Speaker 1: that I had to hold back, everything just because I
Speaker 1: want to talk to him about all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And he's a great guy who will tell those stories. Deliverance, Deliverance, Robocuppy.
Speaker 1: He's great. Uh. At the end of the day, though,
Speaker 1: what I realized watching it now in my middle age,
Speaker 1: like this is a movie about friendships, really, whether it's
Speaker 1: Mikey and Jenny or Taggert and Rosewood, like they have
Speaker 1: a very sweet they end up in a very sweet
Speaker 1: place as three like legit pals who you feel like
Speaker 1: would do anything to help each other at that point.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I love about
Speaker 1: Beverly Hill's coup too, it's a small little detail, um
Speaker 1: is the picture of them fishing. It's on axles, like
Speaker 1: like like the cameras panning across Ronnie Cox's office, and
Speaker 1: it's just sort of like and you see, like, oh
Speaker 1: in the intern. Between these two movies, they all went fishing.
Speaker 1: They went on a fishing trip together, and I love
Speaker 1: it so like to me, by the way, my I
Speaker 1: had a pitch always. I mean, no one is asking,
Speaker 1: but my whole pitch for Beverly Hill's cup uh four,
Speaker 1: I always thought, yeah, I got it, And my my
Speaker 1: pitture was this, um it at least to get into it.
Speaker 1: They're on one of their fishing trips. And again this
Speaker 1: also has to take you I'm not taking into a
Speaker 1: chord how old they all are right now. Um, but
Speaker 1: they're all on a fishing trip. But they're off the
Speaker 1: coast of Miami, and they see something happening out in
Speaker 1: the water while they're in there, and they go back
Speaker 1: to Miami. And so you take it out of Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills and you go to Miami and and and they
Speaker 1: go to Miami and they're now both fish out of
Speaker 1: water there because a Beverly Hills cop and you hopefully
Speaker 1: act folly stolen from Detroit. And then you bring them
Speaker 1: and you bring them there to just another culture that
Speaker 1: would be interesting when you put them both as fish
Speaker 1: out of water, and I think that that's a you know,
Speaker 1: a certain point that always felt like, oh, that would
Speaker 1: be really cool way to finish it. Yeah, have you
Speaker 1: actually pitched that? No? I wish I could. I don't
Speaker 1: know who I feel like the people they're listening to
Speaker 1: pitches for. I I got to like I Snake so
Speaker 1: much Beverly Hills cup stuff because I just love it.
Speaker 1: So I've gotten to read like Beverly Hills cop scripts
Speaker 1: that were optioned and were terrible like but I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're placeholders either. I don't know. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: this will be funny because of this, But bever Hill's
Speaker 1: Cup three just sucked it all up because they killed
Speaker 1: Gil Hill like they take away Paul Riser like you
Speaker 1: you wreck the things that you want to see. And
Speaker 1: the thing that they love about Paul Riser and Gil
Speaker 1: Hill and the Detroit stuff is that they are you
Speaker 1: can check in on them and they're you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're not like they're not crucial, but they are. There's
Speaker 1: something really fun about those characters. I mean, has there
Speaker 1: ever been a third movie in a franchise that was
Speaker 1: very good. I guess you're right. I'm sure that someone
Speaker 1: will you know, right into us and tell us. But wait,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's I think it's a rant.
Speaker 1: It's the only time you ever get that is like
Speaker 1: in an X Men first Class, you know, and Matthew
Speaker 1: Van But that's not a third that's that's a new
Speaker 1: director reboot. You know, it's and uh, you know, even
Speaker 1: with when I've been working I've been working on Galaxy
Speaker 1: Quest for TV. You know. My big thing with that
Speaker 1: has been and you know, for better for worse and
Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of different people and why they
Speaker 1: think galax Quest works. It's like, we just can't do
Speaker 1: the same thing. You have to create something new because
Speaker 1: if you don't, you're just gonna spin out. You can't,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like this tough line of you know,
Speaker 1: that's why I think Aliens is a great sequel. I
Speaker 1: love Aliens. Uh it's not. It's of the same ilk
Speaker 1: as Alien. But it's not that I wouldn't even consider
Speaker 1: it's it's a spiritual sequel. It's like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's and that's how I think we should be making movies.
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to be like, let's get him
Speaker 1: back to Beverly Hills, and there's another thing, and there's
Speaker 1: another you know. It's like that's the worst kind of
Speaker 1: sequeling is just literally recycling the same jokes in a
Speaker 1: different way, because it's like, well, what you what you
Speaker 1: want to see is these characters back, but you don't
Speaker 1: want to see the same It's a fine line. I
Speaker 1: don't know what, Like, what are the best sequels? I
Speaker 1: mean there's only a handful, not many. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: they all just fizzle hard. Yeah, all right. We finished
Speaker 1: with a couple of segments you feel good about Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: feel good? All right? What Ebert said? And then five questions.
Speaker 1: I always try and see what Roger Ebert said about
Speaker 1: some of these films. This movie, kid is a complete disappointment.
Speaker 1: He gave this one two and a half stars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he was a little off the mark. Here to me,
Speaker 1: he says. When Murphy tries to move against Maitland, he
Speaker 1: comes up against the Beverly Hills cops, including an Abbott
Speaker 1: and Costello team supplies unnecessary pratt falls, successfully undermining the
Speaker 1: credibility of any police scene that threatens to work. But
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what's this movie about anyway? Is it
Speaker 1: a comedy or an action picture? It's both. Audiences may
Speaker 1: expect a comedy, but the closing shootout scene is inspired
Speaker 1: by the machine gun massacre at the end of Scarface
Speaker 1: and the whole business with the cocaine so very very
Speaker 1: tired that when we see the Boss and his henchman
Speaker 1: in the warehouse, we feel like we switched to another movie,
Speaker 1: maybe a dozen other movies. So interesting way, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't buy that. I think the thing that we like
Speaker 1: about it is that it does I think do tonal
Speaker 1: switches and something that we I think, you know, I
Speaker 1: think good films can I think one of the most
Speaker 1: exciting things is like those changes of tone, like can
Speaker 1: you pull that off? Can you go there? And can
Speaker 1: you go back? And I think it's something that probably
Speaker 1: now if you watch it to be like, oh this
Speaker 1: is in Yeah, I don't think it happened a lot.
Speaker 1: Then we find a lot on Unspoiled, Uh, some of
Speaker 1: the biggest reviewers that you know, ripping on these films
Speaker 1: and pretty much all of them not then to say
Speaker 1: this is like one of the best films of all time.
Speaker 1: But whenever these movies are doing something big, whether it's
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, whether it's Citizen Kane, whether it's uh,
Speaker 1: you know. The only ones that have not gotten bad
Speaker 1: reviews really have been Swing Time and Ben Her, which
Speaker 1: is funny because I arguably they're the most palatable. But
Speaker 1: when you're making something that's trying to do something different
Speaker 1: that you have not seen, people often come at them
Speaker 1: and like, no, no, it's not my perspective and uh
Speaker 1: and again talking to this guy who I know who
Speaker 1: wrote and directed uh, Hotel Artemis. It's interesting because they're
Speaker 1: billing it is John Wick, and people are coming and
Speaker 1: some of the reviews I read, they're like, well, it's
Speaker 1: not John Wick. It's like, well, it's not supposed to
Speaker 1: be John Wick. It's more Barton Fink meets pepol Man.
Speaker 1: But if you go in with this preconceived notion, it's
Speaker 1: a very interesting thing that you don't change it by
Speaker 1: when you're watching. It's like, we can't you have a
Speaker 1: movie that twitches done. Doesn't have to be all action?
Speaker 1: Does it have to be all comedy? You know? Can
Speaker 1: you can you go in and out of both? I
Speaker 1: don't know, I think, which is interesting because I thought
Speaker 1: forty eight hours did that. Well, forty eight hours is great,
Speaker 1: and forty eight hours is kind of the testing ground
Speaker 1: for this because it's like it is less comedic, I
Speaker 1: mean my remembrance of it, but like you get that
Speaker 1: bar scene, Like that bar scene is is is a
Speaker 1: great thing, and Eddie Murphy is dancing around, but it's
Speaker 1: like that's a pretty brutal end scene too. That's I
Speaker 1: love that beautifully shot alright. Five questions with Paul Sheer.
Speaker 1: What's the first movie you remember seeing in the theater? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I have an tell me if this counts drive in movie,
Speaker 1: The Jerk, So yeah, I remember my parents sneaking me
Speaker 1: into a drive in movie and and seeing the jerk
Speaker 1: from underneath the covers and probably falling asleep in the
Speaker 1: middle of it. Yeah. I saw Blazing Saddles that way
Speaker 1: when I was like four, so fun. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: your parents want to go to see a movie and
Speaker 1: they're like, well, he can sleep in the back. I
Speaker 1: thought that a few times with my kids. Uh. First
Speaker 1: R rated movie? M does that stand out? You know?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. I believe if it wasn't Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills cop Um the one that I felt most scandalous
Speaker 1: and watching is risky business, um, risky businesses like are
Speaker 1: We convinced my friend's mom to rent it for us,
Speaker 1: and she just saw like a kid with like a
Speaker 1: Lamborghini or with a portion, so she didn't understand that
Speaker 1: this is a movie about a guy like hiding her prostitute.
Speaker 1: And that was like, whoa sexy? Is this? This is crazy?
Speaker 1: And I recently be watching it's a good movie. It's
Speaker 1: it's a good movie, you know. Um, but yeah, but
Speaker 1: that was like whoa sex Like it just felt like
Speaker 1: something big. Yeah, that's subway seeing. I mean, that's that's stuff, Yeah,
Speaker 1: very much. Rebecca de morn a man, Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of teenage boys in the eight said absolutely, it's so crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh will you walk out of a bad movie? Do
Speaker 1: you remember doing so? Yeah? I contemplated walking out of
Speaker 1: Last Action Euro when I saw it. I want to
Speaker 1: watch it again. I want to revisit it because I've
Speaker 1: actually think like, that wasn't a very good movie. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: It just it felt like it was trying to be
Speaker 1: one thing shame black. Huge fan of shame Black, love
Speaker 1: shame Black. But that was like his attempt at kind
Speaker 1: of doing like a meta commentary on the Angry Peace
Speaker 1: Chief Captain all this, and I remember like sitting there
Speaker 1: and going, well I should leave, I don't know, And
Speaker 1: I got myself caught up and stuff like that, like
Speaker 1: Major League three. Also like in the theater, Um third
Speaker 1: movie again, I know the third movie major League one.
Speaker 1: Great movie to um. But I kind of think if
Speaker 1: I've walked out, Oh well, yes, and I've talked about
Speaker 1: this before, but I I again a drive in, drove
Speaker 1: out of a drive in. Uh during Lady in the Water,
Speaker 1: a double screening of Later and the Lady in the
Speaker 1: Water and beer Fest. Uh, and we just took off.
Speaker 1: That's a commitment to when you're driving out. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like just watching everyone start as as we
Speaker 1: pull out of there. Sorry sorry, Uh. Number four I
Speaker 1: tailored to the guests. So I'm gonna go with, um,
Speaker 1: what what classic comedy do you wish you could have
Speaker 1: been in? And maybe even character? Uh? Well, I love Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: I mean Ghostbusters to me is great. Um. But just
Speaker 1: because we talked about that a little bit, maybe I'll
Speaker 1: say mm hmm, it's a good it's a good question,
Speaker 1: like what are they m hmm. It's funny because I
Speaker 1: feel like in my grand ski. Oh all right, I'll
Speaker 1: say this, Uh, just because I've talked about ghost questions
Speaker 1: and I talked about all the time plane strains on
Speaker 1: the bills, I would love to have I would love
Speaker 1: to have been uh either one of those characters. Really,
Speaker 1: and it's it's a great Uh, it's a great movie.
Speaker 1: It's a great under appreciated film. Again, another movie hard
Speaker 1: to pull off, like those John Hughes movies. Wow, they
Speaker 1: are often copied and very rarely achieved. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: plasm amobiles. I would give me either one. And I
Speaker 1: feel like I could do a take on either version.
Speaker 1: I mean, and no offense to those two guys because
Speaker 1: John Candy and Steve Martin are just like kind of
Speaker 1: the top of their game and such a great movie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then finally movie going one on one, what's your
Speaker 1: theater ritual? Where do you sit? What do you eat? Ohkay? Um?
Speaker 1: For me, I am uh, I've become a middle Well
Speaker 1: I'll tell you when I'm by myself. Um, it's a
Speaker 1: couple of things. So so it depends on what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing the movie. If I'm seeing the movie and I
Speaker 1: know it's going to be packed, um, I am picking
Speaker 1: an aisle. I like being on the aisle. I like
Speaker 1: the freedom of the aisle. Uh. Not that I use it,
Speaker 1: but I just like I like being there. When I
Speaker 1: know I'm going to go see a movie during the
Speaker 1: middle of the day, I am going mid mid like
Speaker 1: mid mid like. So that's that's what I like. I've
Speaker 1: often I've been experimenting with way back last row. I
Speaker 1: like that as well. It's a nice place to kind
Speaker 1: of be back row, right hand corner um uh. And
Speaker 1: I like it, yeah, because it's sort of like I'm like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: middle middles where everyone wants to sit so but back
Speaker 1: is actually really nice. I feel like you get like
Speaker 1: a real I saw the Last Jedi back Corner and
Speaker 1: it was great. I just felt like I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just felt like it was I
Speaker 1: just like that experience of like I could take it
Speaker 1: all in. It depends on the screen. Um. Sometimes with
Speaker 1: the stadium seating, the back row, you're like at the
Speaker 1: top of the screen, which I don't love. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: And it's it's all theater dependent. Um. Snack wise, if ideal,
Speaker 1: I'm going with twizzlers, not red vines, Twizzlers some more
Speaker 1: East coast than West Coast. Um, and I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: some peanut or regular Eminem's put them in my popcorn.
Speaker 1: It's a familiar movie. Yeah, I love that. Um And
Speaker 1: then you know, I feel like it's a movie. So
Speaker 1: I'll treat myself to like a whether it's Mr Pib
Speaker 1: or Dr Pepper kind of yeah, like yeah, like kind
Speaker 1: of a cherry Coke. Now they've got those freestyle machines.
Speaker 1: Me and my life is great, you know, but up where, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: what I really do right now because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's bad to drink that much sugar, I will give
Speaker 1: myself pretty much more than three quarters worth of like
Speaker 1: carbonated water and then just throw in a little bit
Speaker 1: of orange Fanta just to kind of top it off.
Speaker 1: And that's my that's my go to, my go to
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's my um my thing. In lately, I
Speaker 1: have two kids, so going to see movies is a
Speaker 1: tricky proposition for my wife and I because we are
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not about getting the kids, it's about
Speaker 1: getting your kids in it. But it's also like when
Speaker 1: you can get out of the house and if you
Speaker 1: get and then we need to hit that seven seven
Speaker 1: thirty movie because the ten thirty movies are too you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's hard. So, Um, I've been seeing on
Speaker 1: movies during the day and I love it, loves sneaking
Speaker 1: out for two hours, and I finally might enjoy movies
Speaker 1: more now too that way, because I'm just sort of
Speaker 1: like fully engaged in my movie going experience. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: an arc light mid day matinee is yeah, like there's
Speaker 1: some serious film lovers in those in those rooms. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love it and I will recommend uh for you.
Speaker 1: Who I imagine how many kids you have? Uh with
Speaker 1: one three year old daughter? Okay, great. So I like
Speaker 1: this thing out here in l A. It's called the
Speaker 1: I Pick Theater. It is a small theater um so
Speaker 1: each theater probably has less than forty seats um. And
Speaker 1: they have a full service bar and kind of restaurant.
Speaker 1: But the way the restaurant works is it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a step up from the Animal drafthouse. Um, you
Speaker 1: are in these giant relaxing like lazy boys. They can
Speaker 1: kind of go back and you really can get comfortable
Speaker 1: in them. And they have a table built in and
Speaker 1: all the food they deliver and it's good food made
Speaker 1: by good chefs are you don't need a fork and knife,
Speaker 1: so it's all handheld food all kind like even if
Speaker 1: the nachos they're all individually and so you can kind
Speaker 1: of have a day. Nay, we have dinner, drinks, and
Speaker 1: a movie all in one. And I said to my wife,
Speaker 1: We've never had a bad movie experience that where we've
Speaker 1: seen so many, really without saying their names, terrible movies.
Speaker 1: And I've left him that it was a great time. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good stuff. Yeah. That that's that's my parenting tip.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Paul, thank you so much. A lot
Speaker 1: of fun. It's so much fun. Thanks so much. All right, everybody,
Speaker 1: another one in the can. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Paul is h He's a very good conversationalist and that
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. I've never met him before,
Speaker 1: but we got along great and he's very easy to
Speaker 1: talk to and it was fun talking Beverly Hills Cop
Speaker 1: and hearing all those great stories about the early days
Speaker 1: of UCB and just that talented group of people that
Speaker 1: he came up with. And check out Unspoiled, check out
Speaker 1: how did This get made to great? Great other movie
Speaker 1: podcasts that Paul does and maybe who knows, maybe he'll
Speaker 1: ask me to be on one of them one day.
Speaker 1: I can only hope you can follow him on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Paul Sheer p A U L S C H
Speaker 1: E R and uh. Check out the League, check out
Speaker 1: Human Giant, definitely check out Children's Hospital. All great Paul
Speaker 1: Sheer vehicles. All right, So that's it for this week. Everyone,
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and until next time. As the
Speaker 1: sun sets slowly in the West, I bid you a
Speaker 1: fine farewell movie. Crush is produced, engineered, edited, and soundtracked
Speaker 1: by Noel Brown and Ramsey Hunt at how Stuff Work Studios,
Speaker 1: Pont City Market, Atlanta, Georgia,