1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Here we go, it's our two. It is a Thursday, 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes Thursdays are slow days for us. Right 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: there's no big games, Thank God for these wild cards. 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Baseball playoffs and I games in New York feel difference. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: Nothing against Fenway, it's nothing against Wrigley. I grew up 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: in the West Coast. Baseball playoff games in New York 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: because of the history, because of the pressure, they just 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: feel different. So it was just magical last night. I 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: gotta say this, the greatest move by any commissioner in 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: any sport ever is Rob Manford, major League Baseball commissioner 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: instituting a pitch clock. Two hour and fifty minute playoff 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: games are fantastic movies. They're better at two hours than three. 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: And I love the Irishman. I love Scorsese, but I 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: don't have time to watch the Irishman on Monday, Tuesday, 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday. Give me an hour fifty movie. 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: You know. 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Adam Silver recently said a year ago, He's like, hey, 25 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: I would reduce quarters to ten minutes dot twelve, and 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I think the audience would appreciate it. I'm all for 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: protecting athletes. I don't need my athletes on the field 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: for five hours. Even golf, old guys, slow sport. Pace 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: of play is a constant issue. Listen, I know a 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: lot of you waken bake crowd guys. You love a 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: six hour fish concert. The rest of us have to 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: go to work in the morning, right, I'm sorry. Years ago, 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: Red Sox Yankees played in the ALCS. I looked it 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: up this morning. Brutal LCS. Years ago two thousand and four, 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: one game was over four hours, two or over five. 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: Almost everything, Thanksgiving dinner with crazy Uncle Eddie. Everything's better quicker, 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: even holiday parties. So Monday Night Football years ago, I 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: saw the numbers on Monday Night football. They may have changed, 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: but time spent watching Monday Night football was under two hours. 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Not everybody watches pregame show, postgame show, entire game. The 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: baseball playoffs have been great pace of play is fast, 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: it moves, and I understand playoff games are going to 43 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: be longer. Baseball games now last about two hours and 44 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. A playoff game is going to be 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: two hours and fifty minutes or two hours fifty five minutes. 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: I'd get it. Every out matters, you go to the bullpen, more, whatever. 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: But it's been just absolutely fantastic. God, if the Dodgers 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: had a good bullpen, their games will be over in 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: an hour and a half. With that every week at 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: this time, best fifty minutes. Maybe in TV forty six years. 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: NFL Films Greg Cosel is now joining US Live Rams 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: Niners tonight. Let's get that one out of the way 53 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: because the Niners are all beat up. I was watching 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Puka Nakool last week, fifth round pick out a BYU, 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: and he's very, very good. I'm not denying that he's strong, 56 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: he's hard to bring down, but it does feel like 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: when you watch his historic numbers, some of this is fit. 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't I said this the other day. If you 59 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: put him in other teams, I think he'd be really good. 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be like this. When you 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: watch film, how much of Puka is fit and not 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: just talent. 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: I think you're correct, Colin, because, in fact, this week, 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: because he leads the NFL and targets with fifty, and 65 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: he's obviously been a very good player for the last 66 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: couple of years since he came in the league. So 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: I looked at all his targets and think about this, 68 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: Only one of his fifty targets has he been the 69 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: single receiver to whatever side of the field he's on. 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: He's always a multiple receiver player. So they use him 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: in motion, they use him in reduced splits, they use 72 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: him in bunch formations, they use him to what he is, 73 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: and he's very very good run after catch. 74 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: He's so physical and he's so competitive. 75 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: But when you think of the great receivers, and I'm 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: not saying he's not, but when most people think of 77 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: great receivers in today's NFL, you think of what we 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: call that boundary X, that single receiver to the short 79 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: side of the field that just can work one on 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: one against anybody. He is not deployed in that manner, 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: so he rarely ever, like I said one time this 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: year and by the way, it was a tunnel screen, 83 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: only one time has he been the single receiver to 84 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: the side of the field that he lines up on. 85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: So they play the Niners tonight. I said the other day, 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: I think brock Purty is still injured. I think he's 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: the ball sailing on him. I don't think he gets 88 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: the push off he wants. I'll defend brock Purty. If 89 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: your planet seventy five eighty percent the ball doesn't come 90 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: out in the same that's what it looks like to me. 91 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: What is the film say? 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: I would agree with that. 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: I thought last week there were a lot of balls 94 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: that sailed on them. Again, we never know if that's 95 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: due to injury or not. But to me, they're much 96 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: larger issue, quite frankly, because Brock Purdy is a good player, 97 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: you know, and everybody wants to get into the brock 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: Purty discussion on a week to week basis. He's proven 99 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: that he's a quality NFL quarterback. Their issue is they 100 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: cannot run the football. You know, one stat we always 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: look at his yards before first contact. Do you know 102 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: who's last in the NFL Christian McCaffrey. He gets one 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: point four to seven yards before first contact. And as 104 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: good as Purdy can be or any quarterback. For the 105 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: most part, if you can't run the ball at all, 106 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: and particularly that team, the foundation of how they go 107 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: about doing everything offensively starts with the run game, and 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: they've been unable to run the ball with any sustainability 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: or any consistency. 110 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's revisit Jackson Dart. I thought it was good. 111 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: What I liked about the game plan, it was very intentional. 112 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: They clearly design plays for him to run. They kind 113 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: of felt left that you could tell the Chargers O 114 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: line was beat up. The Giant staff felt like they 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: would win some matchups up front and it would be 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: a pretty low scoring game, so they were intentional. They 117 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: wanted to win field position. It wasn't a lot of 118 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: big throws down the field. I thought he was good. 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he was exceptional. What did the film say? 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: No, No, he wasn't. And they played to what he is. 121 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: They ran the same basic route concepts over and over, 122 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: and there was one in particular called snag flat that 123 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: seemed to be open every time they got zone coverage. 124 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: It becomes a pitch and catch, easy throw. They used 125 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: his legs. He was clearly in the pocket, a little 126 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: quick to move. I don't think he saw things really well, 127 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: but you know, this is to be expected in a 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: first start. He's going to have to become much more 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: discipline as a pocket player in order to become a 130 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: really good quarterback. But you know, whenever I watch guys 131 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: like Jackson Dart, it always makes me think of the 132 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: balance between being a really efficient pocket player and the 133 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: ability to use your legs. And it depends on the 134 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: quarterback where you fall on that sort of spectrum where 135 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: you fall on that line. But he's clearly in this 136 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: given game, just his first game, he was a little 137 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: quick to move. And then some of that is mental, 138 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: you don't see it the right way, and some of 139 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: that is just physical because that's what you've always done. 140 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: All right, Let's move to Lamar Jackson and the Kansas 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Yeah, it does feel like because they've got weapons. 142 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Lamar has been around this league for a long time, 143 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: but it does feel like are people defending him differently? 144 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: Now. 145 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: I will argue that Spags has so many games against 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: him that the more you see of Lamar Jackson, the 147 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: better your odds are. That's why he's been so bare 148 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: against the NFC. You never see him and all of 149 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, well, we can't even write duplicate 150 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: that at practice. I think Kansas City's got his number, 151 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: and I also think they're a little in his head. 152 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: But are people defending Lamar different. 153 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: A little bit? And I think one of the things 154 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: you're seeing more and more teams do. Even Detroit did it. 155 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: I think the week prior is they're putting people on 156 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. So now what your quarterback has 157 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: to do, Lamar has to do it is you've got 158 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: to change protections because you've got to account for people 159 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: on the line of scrimmage. So what you do is 160 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: you go to six and seven man protections, then you 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: drop people out. Teams are using a spy, but they're 162 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: using it a little bit differently Colin, and this, I 163 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: think this is an important point. The spy is a 164 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: little bit closer to the line of scrimmage. And because 165 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: Lamar likes to run forward, he's not a guy like 166 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: He's not like Josh Allen, who always seems to run 167 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: to his right outside. Lamar likes to run forward. So 168 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: now you have a guy a little closer to the 169 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. There's not enough space, There's not enough room. Yeah, 170 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: he might be a better athlete than the player who's 171 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: spying him, but he still needs space and they're trying 172 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: to really cut down on his space. 173 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: Now. 174 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is the first time anybody's 175 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: done this. I can't remember every game in his career, 176 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: but you know, sometimes they happened to work in a 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: given week. I'm not a blueprint guy. I don't think, oh, 178 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: every team should do this and it automatically works. 179 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 4: I guess he's going to be out for a couple of. 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: Weeks now anyway, But I think teams are always trying 181 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: to tweak and come up with a different way. Showed 182 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: different looks, make him think through the play, make him 183 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: react differently, and it's been effective the last couple of weeks. 184 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: So I kept joking with Jmack all week. I said, 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: if you could just put E Xavier Worthy in, it'll 186 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: give him a deep threat, and it'll give him a 187 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: guy that can throw to eight times. I don't think 188 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: he's a one, but I do think he forces you 189 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: to defend differently because of his speed. And it was 190 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: interesting they brought him in and suddenly all the underneath 191 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: routes were open. So again, I think when Rashid Rice 192 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: gets back with Worthy and Juju Smith and Travis that's 193 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: a real NFL offense. I don't think they run the 194 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: ball particularly well, but I do think no. When I 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: watched that game, I thought, oh, that team, that team 196 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: can compete for the Super Bowl. I didn't think that 197 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. 198 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: Right, Well, it's funny you say that because for the 199 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: last couple of years we talked about the Chiefs as 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: being one of the slowest teams in the league. Now 201 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they're one of the fastest. It's 202 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: not just Worthy, Thorn is a burner, Hollywood Brown can run. 203 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: And keep an eye on that back Brashad Smith, the 204 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: rookie from SMU. You know, he was a college receiver. 205 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: I think it might have been in Miami, and then 206 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: he transferred to SMU where they made him a running back. 207 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: But this kid is another explosive athlete. He's another guy 208 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: that runs under four to four. So keep an eye 209 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: on him. They'll start using him more and more. So 210 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, and it shows up in the 211 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: way they're playing. They are now again pushing the ball 212 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: down the field. They did not do that the last 213 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: couple of years much at all, and when they did, 214 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: they were not very good at it, even with Mahomes, 215 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: who obviously can make any throw at a high level. 216 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: But now, all of a sudden, they're one of the 217 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: fastest wide receiver units in the league. 218 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Isn't that's something? All right? Bills faced New England. I'm 219 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: really interested. I know the Bills are the more interesting 220 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: team to the country, but I did feel that Drake 221 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: May was a little less polished. Yeah, justin Herbert. I 222 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I like their run room. They found 223 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: a left tackle. I think he looks the part. I don't. 224 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: They're not going to beat Buffalo, I doubt it, but Greg, 225 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: I think we I said this last year after about 226 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: ten games with bow Nicks. I'm like that works in 227 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. I watched Drake May. I know it's early, 228 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: but that that works to me. I think he feels comfortable, 229 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: he's accurate. I agree they're not asking a lot, but 230 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: you tell me, it looks like they found their guy. 231 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, all we have is what he's 232 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: done up to this point. You know, I always say 233 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: this every week when I'm with you. You know, we're 234 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: not gonna talk about what's going to happen in six weeks. 235 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: We have no idea, but what we have right now, 236 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: we have a poised, composed, comfortable quarterback. And there's two 237 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: areas where he's been outstanding this year, and I think 238 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: most coaches would view those as litmus test areas. Number One, 239 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: he's been phenomenal on third down Colin, and he's been 240 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: phenomenal versus pressure. Those are two two critical areas for 241 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: young quarterbacks. Most young quarterbacks struggle with those two things 242 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: in those two situations, and he's been phenomenal. So I 243 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: really like what I've seen up to this point. I 244 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: think their run game needs to start becoming a little better. 245 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: You know, they've got some good backs. You know you 246 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: mentioned Will Campbell, the left tackle. It's really interesting watching him. 247 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: And I had this conversation with a really well respected 248 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: on line coach who and most online coaches are believer 249 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 3: in arm length. They say that sixty percent of the snaps, 250 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: you can do everything right and you look really good 251 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: at arm length'sn't an issue. It's the forty percent where 252 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: your technique breaks down. You have to be reactive, and 253 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: that's where arm length comes into play. 254 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, every year I pick a team that 255 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: I think is significantly better than the experts. Last year 256 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: it was Washington and Denver. The year before it was 257 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: the Rams. People thought they were going to rebuild. The 258 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: year before that, right Viking. So I've been in a 259 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: role I This year it was the Seahawks. I think 260 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: John Snyder is an excellent jam. I think the last 261 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: three drafts have been outstanding. And you and I have 262 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: both liked Donald for a long time. When I watch them, 263 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: sometimes Greg, I do the sound down test, turn the 264 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: sound down, cut the announcers out, watch the speed and 265 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: athletic ability of a team. And when you turn the 266 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: sound down with the Seahawks and you just forget who 267 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: they are. That team has got athletes Jackson Smith and 268 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: Jig Bass. I'm sorry, but that's a number one you're watching. Donald. 269 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not saying they're Philadelphia. I'm not 270 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: saying they have that roster. But the film has got 271 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: to say they're athletic. They play with a lot of energy, 272 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: do they not? 273 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: They sure do? And will you really notice it? 274 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: And yes, Donald is very very good and he's played 275 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: very well going back to last year with Minnesota and 276 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: certainly this year. And one of the things he does 277 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: as well as any quarterback in the league is throw 278 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: the ball down the field. But you look at that 279 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: defense now, that defense is really athletic. They're very good 280 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: on defense, and a lot of people are probably not 281 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 3: thinking about them as a really good defensive team. And 282 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: by the way, they haven't even gotten to play because 283 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: he was injured in the preseason. Nick Mnwarie, I guess 284 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: he was an early second round pick if I'm not mistaken. 285 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: The safety from South Carolina, who I think, within the 286 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: context of how Mike McDonald plays defense, is going to 287 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: be a really impactful player. So to me, this is 288 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: a pretty complete team. They'd like to get their run 289 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: game going a little more, but I think it will 290 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: because Kenneth Walker has a lot of ability. But right 291 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: now I look at Seattle as a really solid team. 292 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: I want to talk Philadelphia. This is bizarre. They are 293 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: totally bizarre. They have had the two worst offensive halves. 294 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Not Tennessee, not Houston, not Carolina, not the Saints. The 295 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: two worst offensive halves of football have been the Eagles 296 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: first half against the Rams second half last week. They're 297 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: trying to get aj Brown the ball it worked against 298 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the Rams who don't have size at corner. This thing 299 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: is this thing is is it? The offensive coordinator is 300 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: at the play calling, they go into these holes where 301 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: it's just a what is it? 302 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: It's a hard question to answer, but I will tell 303 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: you this. The offensive line has not played well this 304 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: year and the tape tells you that. And I think 305 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: the assumption, because it's been maybe the best offensive line 306 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: in football for the last two three years, the assumption 307 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: just is, oh, it's a great old line. Well, this 308 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: year it has not played to that level. And Barkley, 309 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: they're still giving him the ball. He's got the most 310 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: first down rushes of any back in the league, but 311 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: he's averaging three yards of carry and again yards before 312 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: first contact is awful. 313 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: And Barkley is a little bit of. 314 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: A searcher and a looker when he doesn't feel that 315 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: he has room, so sometimes he leaves yards on the field. 316 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: But the pass game, I mean, if I said to you, Colin, 317 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: here's a team that can't that's not throwing it very well, 318 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: I'm not running it very well, well, you'd probably say, well, 319 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: they can't be very good record wise. Yet they're four 320 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: and zero. They're just the passing game just is not 321 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: comfortable to me right now. There's not a lot of 322 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: clean looks for Jalen Hurts. I don't feel like he's 323 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: comfortable with what he's looking at. Normally, they work outside 324 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: the numbers really effectively. Jalen is phenomenal throwing the ball 325 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: outside the numbers. Other than the Rams game in that 326 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: second half, you haven't seen much of that at all. 327 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: So I don't know. To me, it's a mystery, but 328 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: they're not very good right now on offense. 329 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so coming out of the draft, I definitely did 330 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: not like JJ McCarthy as much as the GMS, and 331 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: I like bow Nicks more so. I watched Oregon at 332 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: Auburn and I thought with Sean Payton was going to work. 333 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm always impressed with him 334 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: is that when HiT's a ball out into the flat, 335 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: and it can be to Mims, Sutton, Harvey, anybody, he 336 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: puts that ball right out in front, so the receiver, 337 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: the pass catcher catches it running. They don't have to 338 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: wait for it. It's not a lollipopsher. It's very brady. 339 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: It is a tight spiral and that's an underrated skill. 340 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: He is really accurate, like eight nine yard, just bang, bang, 341 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: very crisp. He was great against Cincinnati. What does the 342 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: film say on bo Nicks. 343 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you say that because ninety five percent 344 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: of run after catchers on the quarterback, not on the receiver. 345 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: You just have to go back to Bill Walsh for that. 346 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: We all know that if you watch tape. It's funny 347 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: you mentioned Nicks. The first couple of weeks of this season, 348 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: he struggled. He was not getting clear pictures. He reacted 349 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 3: to pressure that wasn't there. Sometimes it looks like he 350 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: was inventing pressure. He just didn't play well through the 351 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: first two weeks, which sometimes happens with a second year quarterback, 352 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: particularly after they've had success as a rookie. But the 353 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: last two weeks he started to play better, and I 354 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: thought against Cincinnati he clearly had his best game. And 355 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: I think he's a really solid player. You know, me, 356 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 3: I don't get caught up and is he topped five 357 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: tops say? You know, I don't get caught up in that. 358 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: But I think he's starting to play a little more comfortably, 359 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: a little more calmly. And I think that with Sean Payton. 360 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: He gets set up in good situations. And if you want, 361 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 3: we can go right to the play of the week 362 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: because it's going to be Bo Nicks and it's just 363 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: to me, an example of. 364 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: Really good coaching. 365 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: It's the touchdown he threw, which we're actually looking at 366 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: right now. 367 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: We'll see it. 368 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: It's a touchdown he threw this past week to Cortland Sutton. 369 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: And to me, this again is just. 370 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: A really good example of coaching and how you set 371 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 3: up plays. And this is Nixon an empty set. So 372 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: what is he looking at. He's looking at a post 373 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: safety case. He's a single high safety and what does 374 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: he see across the board? Looks like man to man 375 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: across the board. So what's the route concept here? And 376 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: it's a great route concept for this look. It's five verticals. 377 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: They're going to run five verticals. So the matchup we 378 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: want to focus on, of course, is Courtland Sutton versus 379 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: the corner that happens to be Dax Hill. So now 380 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 3: there's what you really want to do here is you 381 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: want to create distance between the post safety and the 382 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: corner that's playing Sutton. That's what you're trying to do. 383 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: So how do you do that you do it with 384 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: your receiver. With Sutton, who will widen his vertical stem. 385 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 3: He wants to move the corner and expand the corner. 386 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: That's what he's trying to do. But then the other 387 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: part of this is going to be on bo Nix, 388 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 3: and we'll see that from the end zone. 389 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: He's got to control the. 390 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 3: Safety because he's got to create the passing window. 391 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: And you can see it from this angle. 392 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: You'll see as he drops back that his head is 393 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: looking first to the left then down the middle, and 394 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: you can see the safety subtly slide into the middle 395 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: of the field, so it creates distance to create the 396 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: passing window. These are the subtleties of playing quarterback in 397 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: the NFL that have to become second nature, because otherwise, 398 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: if you don't bring, if you don't control that safety, 399 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: he just slides right there and you don't have the throw. 400 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 3: These are the little things you learn and that becomes 401 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: second nature as you play the position at the NFL level. 402 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: So good years NFL film. Greg cosel as Owa's thank 403 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: you very much. 404 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: Thanks Colin love it. Talk to you next week. 405 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: He's on Fox Sports Radio on the weekends as well, 406 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: so it's guys fired up for Yankees Red Sox. Tonight 407 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: we have e O'Connor last hour. He's going to talk 408 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: about that. It is, you know, it's just there's certain 409 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: positions in sports that I temper my criticism, and baseball 410 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: managers are not setting the lineup. A lot of work 411 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: has done upstairs. So I mean a college football coach 412 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: at a small market will make more than Aaron Boone 413 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: or Alex Coral. Why because the college football coach is 414 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: so essential. They do all the recruiting. And you know, 415 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: baseball managers outside of three or four of the top guys, 416 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, they don't. They don't get paid a lot 417 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: by their club. And that tells you what the club 418 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: thinks is that, you know, the gms now are the 419 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: guys pulling the strings. So it's hard, you know, when 420 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: you know Ben Rice isn't out there, Jazz isn't playing well, 421 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: it's not really the same team. But the analytics say, 422 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: you know, play other guys, so we'll see, you know, 423 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: j Mac, I don't you? Sometimes you and I were 424 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: critical of athletes, sometimes sometimes rarely I sometimes I I 425 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: want to be the bigger man, and so I wrote, 426 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm old school I'm coming around the corner here. I'm 427 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: I wrote some apology letters. I went to the post office. 428 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: I know our government shut down, but the post office 429 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: is still working. I'm gonna I wrote some letters last night. 430 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: I had a little extra time watching the Yankees Red Sox. 431 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: I want to introduce those around the corner. You know, 432 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, you get older, you just you know, you 433 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: want to maybe get a little soft, But you know, 434 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: stamps post office still works for me. 435 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: One more Heard. 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When I used to work at the other place, 451 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: I'd never been to Yankee Stadium as a kid, So 452 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: I went to Yankee Stadium a couple of times, and 453 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: you know, it smelled and it was old. And my 454 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: takeaway was I was really hungry and there was no 455 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: place to watch the game and then simultaneously eat a 456 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: decent meal, and you know, I didn't want to eat 457 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: hot dogs and you know, crappy food. So the new 458 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium, it's got fruit stand, it's got twenty five 459 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: great restaurants, but it's you know, it doesn't quite feel 460 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: Even last night, you saw those empty seats behind the plate. 461 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: It doesn't quite fit. It's a much nicer stadium, it 462 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: has better amenities, but there is something about old stadiums 463 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: and the ghosts and the history and they kind of shake. 464 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: The camera shakes. So you know, I just when I 465 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: watched the Yankees, it's hard to get away from the 466 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: George and the Billy Martin era. When I grew up 467 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: with Reggie Jackson and Billy Martin in the feuding and 468 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: the weird press conferences. But I don't know who. I 469 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: like the Night's two young pitchers. I don't think I 470 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: don't think home field matters much. I think it's starting pitching. 471 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: Game one, Red Sox had an ace. Game two Yankees 472 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: had the better picture. So who has to go to 473 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: the bullpen sooner? And then you know you can't make errors. 474 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: You got to take advantage on the bases. But I 475 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: did think Jazz Chisholm playing like mattered. Analytics guys. You 476 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: know maybe in game one didn't want it, but he mattered. 477 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: J Mack with the News, the. 478 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 7: News, This is the Herdline News, Colin. 479 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 6: We are talking about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, even 480 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 6: though they're on their bye week three and one and 481 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 6: they're on top of the division. 482 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 7: Lamar's hurt, Joe Burrow's hurt. 483 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 6: Steelers insider Mark Shoot, I'm gonna butcher his last name, 484 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 6: so I won't even say Kali, Mark Kabally. 485 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 7: Listen. I don't know that I agree with the mirror. 486 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 6: He said Aaron Rodgers has been the most important player 487 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 6: on the Steelers. 488 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 8: I think he's team MVP. I think he's an a. 489 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 8: You couldn't expect anything more from him right now. I mean, 490 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 8: forget that those are the tangible things that we can see. 491 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 8: But just how he's being able to interact with some 492 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 8: of the players, I think is something that none of 493 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 8: us were able to foresee. I didn't. I didn't think 494 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 8: he would be that type of a guy. I mean, 495 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 8: just look at that Minnesota game, Bob, who was there 496 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 8: a happier guy out there? I totally agree. This is 497 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 8: where I'm gonna agree. This is an organization that has 498 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 8: had no feel for offense, regardless of coordinators, had no 499 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 8: feel for offense. I'm supposed to suddenly now believe after 500 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 8: six years they can run the football. 501 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I like Najee Harris better than the current running backs, 502 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: and yet they run the ball better. Now, why is that? 503 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 7: Hold it? Hold hold? 504 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 6: So here are the rushing total rushing leaders for the 505 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 6: Stealers Week one against my Jets. Jalen Warren thirty seven. 506 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 6: Then Warren had forty eight the next week, then forty seven, 507 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 6: then Gainwell had ninety nine. So it's not really the running. 508 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: It's not Aaron Rodgers. The MVP is Arthur Smith. Oh see, 509 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 6: he is calling great stuff, Colin. Let's be real, he 510 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 6: was there last year. 511 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's. 512 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 6: Calling great better stuff. This year, he's adapted and changed. 513 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 7: Maybe some of it's Rogers, you know, if. 514 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 6: We're being honest, is the real MVP for the Steelers. 515 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 6: They got lucky that the Jets fumble that kickoff when 516 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 6: the Jets were dominating that game. They got lucky against 517 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 6: the Patriots for five turnovers, and they got lucky to 518 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 6: face Carson Wentz. 519 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 7: Here are the quarterbacks? Sorry? 520 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 9: More? 521 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 7: One last thing Steelers have beaten justin fields. 522 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 6: They lost to Sam Darnold, they beat second year quarterback 523 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 6: Drake May, and they beat Carson Wentz. 524 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: Well, Drake May's pretty good. 525 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 7: He's a second year quarterback. Come on, they've been lucky. 526 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 6: Colin, come around. Stop giving Rogers credit. He doesn't deserve it. 527 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: No, I think sometimes Aaron's done a good job with 528 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: an offense that struggled for six to seven years, and 529 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: sort of he's great on back shoulder throws. He's had 530 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: about six key back shoulder throws. I know PFF thinks 531 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: he's a bomb, but that's because he's not throwing the 532 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: ball down the field. 533 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 7: Because he's down Charlie. 534 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to because the defense is stealing the ball. 535 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: He's winning the field position. I mean the Minnesota game. 536 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: Instantly you're five minutes in. It's like, all right, they lead. 537 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: They are creating leads and field position advantages, and Aaron's 538 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: smart enough to go. I'm gonna make a couple of 539 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: big back shoulder throws. I do not need to throw 540 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: ball down the field. Remember, they lost their left tackle 541 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: in George Pickens. You lose your left tackle and your 542 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: best receiver, and yet the offense gets much better with 543 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: the same offensive coordinator. Aaron deserves credit. 544 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 6: They come out of the buy and they face the 545 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 6: mighty Dylan Gabriel followed by the immortal Jake browning Colin. 546 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 7: This is just cream puff stuff. 547 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 6: I mean, this is basically like Georgia in college football, 548 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 6: playing like directional roast beef tech. Okay, that's what the 549 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 6: Steelers are doing. Now they're getting lucky guys, Rogers. This 550 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 6: guy next up, Let's go to oh Eagles. Everybody loves A. J. Brown, 551 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 6: The story that won't go away. Brown is actually taking 552 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 6: some responsibility for his tweet over the weekend, saying it 553 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 6: wasn't a shot at the organization and addressed. 554 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 7: Whether he he's happy in Philadelphia. 555 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 10: This is my home, man. I love it here, you know, 556 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 10: but you just see frustration because obviously, you know, we 557 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 10: want to be great, and most definitely I want to 558 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 10: be great as well. You know, I don't think it's 559 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 10: a bad thing for one the ball. It's not just 560 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 10: for targets or anything. They're putting numbers up. But no, 561 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 10: I see that that we're struggling, and I'm a guy 562 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 10: that wants the ball in those times when we can't 563 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 10: find a way. 564 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 7: Give it to me, Like when the game's on the line, 565 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 7: give the ball to me. 566 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 8: I want that. 567 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: I want that pressure. 568 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 10: I put it on myself, you know, and I work. 569 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 8: Hard for it. 570 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: I have no problem with AJ Brown at all. None. 571 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: They're not doing anything well and he's like, yeah, I'm great, 572 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: get me the ball. He's right. 573 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 6: So when I start calling for the rock here on 574 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 6: the show, I'm like, hey, I need the rock. 575 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 7: Keep me happy. 576 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: Colin, You're not AJ Brown, You're a good slot receiver. 577 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, that's cold blooded. 578 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 7: Final story stepon Diggs. Colin. 579 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 6: He spent four years with the Bills for getting traded 580 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 6: to the Texans, and now he's signed with the Patriots. Sunday, 581 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 6: the Patriots head back to Buffalo in Dig's first game 582 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 6: back at high Mark Stadium. Here's Josh Allen on the 583 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 6: return of his former receiver. 584 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 9: We played him last year, so I don't think it's 585 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 9: anything super crazy, but obviously being back in Buffalo, who 586 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 9: knows if the emotions are going to be hiding for 587 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 9: him or for the fans or whatever it is. But 588 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 9: we're just gonna go out there and try to perform 589 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 9: the best we can. 590 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't need any additives to the Buffalo offense. 591 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: I think they probably need another safety. Their back end 592 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: isn't great. I'll tell you though, Buffalo and Detroit super 593 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: Bowl I think would be the best one. I'm not 594 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: sure I'm feeling it. I'm feeling more of a Rams. 595 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a ram super Bowl. I'm not sure who 596 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: comes out of the A see, but I think Buffalo 597 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: is the best team. But now I watch Kansas City 598 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: last week, it was like hard not to be impressed 599 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: with that. 600 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 7: I kind of want to take the Bills here. 601 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 6: I need to see if Milano and Oliver are back 602 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 6: for the run defense. 603 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 7: So you know that. 604 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 6: There's a lot of scuttle butt in Buffalo about what 605 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 6: happened between Allen and Diggs. 606 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 7: There was a fractured relationship. 607 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 6: I would not be surprised here if Buffalo kind of 608 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 6: beat them down if they get their guys back just off. 609 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 7: The run defense, because that defense stinks. 610 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 6: But it's just interesting that everybody's everybody seems to be 611 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 6: liking the Patriots in the spot, an eight point underdog. 612 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Division rival with a quarterback playing. Well, you know what 613 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: I like in this game. I like if the weather's good, 614 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: keep your eye on the weather. The over, Yeah, I 615 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: like the over. Jmak with the news, Well. 616 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd 617 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: Line News such good stuff today. Be sure to catch 618 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: live editions of The Herd weekdays and Noone Eastern non 619 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: a em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and 620 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 621 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 6: Sunday, a Fox NFL doubleheader starts with Dak and the 622 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 6: Cowboys taking on. 623 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 7: The Jets or other regional action. 624 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 6: Then in America's Game of the Week, Justin Herbert and 625 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 6: the Chargers take on the Commanders or Lions Bengals. 626 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 7: Check localistings for the game in your area only on Fox. 627 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: I actually like the Jets with the upset there. My 628 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: favorite pick of the week is the Colts I'm telling 629 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: you the watching last week, watching Dante Moore chop it up, 630 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself and the Notre Dames quarterback car 631 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: looks outstanding. All the guys I thought were going to 632 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: be great have kind of come back down to earth 633 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: and it's these young guys. So you and I were 634 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: talking about this. It's important for the Giants because if 635 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: Jackson Dark keeps playing this well, they need to see 636 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 1: if he can play. So, like Russell Wilson struggling, Macro 637 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: Big Pictures, good for the Giants because let's get Jackson 638 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: Dart out there. It's a tough schedule. He didn't have 639 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: a lot to work with, there's no neighbors, he didn't 640 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: have to win. Can he move the change? Does he 641 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: look the part? Because I mean it was very It 642 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: was this time last year weeks four, five, six, seven, eight, 643 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: that we were like bo Nicks can play. It was 644 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: the end of last year. We looked at Drake may 645 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: Week's twelve, thirteen, forty to fifty six, Oh, Drake, make 646 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: him play. Now we knew Jayden Daniels early, that was obvious. 647 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: We're looking at Pennix now we're kind of having a 648 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: judgment on Michael Pennix. We're like, oh he was awful, 649 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,719 Speaker 1: Oh he was good. Now I think he can play. 650 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: But these are really big times, these first these first 651 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: eight starts. You don't have to win him, but I 652 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: have to watch and see moments and go, okay, that's 653 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: that's a little magical. That's confidence. He's not overwhelmed, Caleb, 654 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Caleb Williams. There are moments you're like, yikes, 655 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: but there is no question he makes big boy throws 656 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: that a lot of guys don't. 657 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, let me ask you about this because I know 658 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 6: the Saints are winless and Spencer Ratlers never won a 659 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 6: football game, but if you look at their week to week, 660 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 6: they're actually competitive. 661 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 7: In all their games. Yeah yeah, and now they're. 662 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 6: Facing Jackson Dart, who's good his first road game. No molite, neighbors, 663 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 6: I listen. I don't advocate putting your extractable dollars on 664 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 6: the Saints, but I like the Saints. 665 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 7: They're winning this game out right. 666 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, right, Okay, Rattler's always had a 667 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: good arm, that's not it. 668 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 6: He's he's decent and throws under ten yards as long 669 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 6: as he doesn't try the you know, hero ball stuff 670 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 6: down the field, which is he's a turnover machine. 671 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 7: But I like the Saints. 672 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you know, Jay Mack, I do Colin 673 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: Wright wrong in a Monday. But one of the things 674 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: I always try not to be. I try to be fair, 675 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: even though I'm critical. And sometimes people say, well, you 676 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: kind of pick on blankety blank, and you're always You're 677 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: always harsh. And I was thinking this morning, I tend 678 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: to be old school. I love to sit down and 679 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: write letters. I do it all the time. Not long letters, 680 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: but I like to write letters. I love the post office, 681 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: I love stamps, and so I thought, you know, I 682 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: just last night I sat down watching the Yankees and 683 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: Red Sox, and I penned some letters, and I'd like 684 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: to share them with the audience. 685 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 7: Yes, cannot wait to hear people. 686 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: I've been a little critical of the first one I wrote. 687 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: I wrote to Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron doesn't like me, 688 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: and that's okay. A lot of people don't like me. 689 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: But I wrote to Aaron. I said, listen to Aaron Rodgers, 690 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: I was wrong to call you a snarky, prickly weird uncle. 691 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: You are a baller, not a Baylor after all, my bad, bro. 692 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: You've been magnetic, energizing and resilient and pitpurg the rare 693 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: eccentric quarterback who was pointing Steel City out of the 694 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: darkness and in to the lights, yours, CC. And then 695 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: I wrote another letter to Daniel Jones, Dear Danny Dimes, 696 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: I said you were a bland vanilla, unremarkable turnover machine. 697 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: I was wrong. You're a steady gritty. You're bankable, and 698 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: now I'm coining you, Danny dollars after minting your franchise 699 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: valuable yours CC. Well, I wasn't done. I had to 700 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: get a new pan. I ran out of ink. I 701 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: got a new pan, and I wrote another letter to 702 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Dear Baker, I once called you an immature, undraftable, 703 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: two time transfer, a frat guy in commercials. Well, it 704 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: takes a big man to admit when he's wrong, and 705 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm six to two. You are undeniable, a flag planting rebel, 706 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: a team captain of a pirate ship, the walk on 707 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: quarterback forcing foes to walk the plank, yours CC. I 708 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: wrote some other stuff on the back of that, but 709 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: I'm not going to show you. Dan Campbell. I wrote 710 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: one to him too. My wife's from Michigan, so I 711 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: knew the zip code. Dear Dan Campbell, I laughed at 712 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: you as a too much raw raw kneecap biting meat head. 713 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: And it turns out chomping on knees is authentic and 714 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: strategic and culture correcting with you at the helm. The 715 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: lions are never down, even when it's fourth yours, CC. 716 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: This one was tough. This last one I was pretty brutal. 717 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. It was tough. And I don't 718 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: know the area code in Dallas zip code. Excuse me? 719 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: I wrote to Brian Schottneimer. I said, dear Shoty, I 720 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: called the Cowboys a two win team after I saw 721 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: your backwards visor. It was a loss a lie. Excuse me, 722 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: it was a lie. You're a your two losses in 723 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: a tie, all right, that's being a smart alec. It's 724 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: all going to change. You're steady and adaptable, you're stabilizing. 725 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Coach Shottenneimer. You prove that a backwards visor 726 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: is just forward thinking yours CC, C Jmax. Sometimes you 727 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: have to sit down and be pensive. Yeahoign and tell 728 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: these people listen. I know it's rough. Hopefully they open 729 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: their mail. A lot of people these days don't even 730 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: go to the mailbox. 731 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, is this the new colin your Midwest sensibilities? You're 732 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 6: writing apology letters? And yeah for week five of the NFL. 733 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 6: By the way, Schottenheimer, you should have just torn that 734 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 6: one up. There's no way that they're doing anything with. 735 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 7: That guy at the Helm. 736 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 6: No shot and quickly on Dan Campbell. He was a 737 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 6: little goofy at the beginning, remember he was he was. 738 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 6: They've turned it around. We'll see if it continues. 739 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: One of the people in the NFL that I've just 740 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: always respected their opinion was Bill Parcells. Parcells loved him, 741 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: and so I was like, come on, Bill, gee, she comes. 742 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: You know what I was told. I think I've told 743 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: this story a couple of times, so I'm sorry, but 744 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: most of you don't listen all day. So I was 745 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: told by a GM that I was in the off season. 746 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: I was asking him about hiring coaches and how hard 747 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: it is, like seven new guys every year. Five don't work, 748 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean Andy Reider, Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton. 749 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: That's the easy stuff, and a lot of times it 750 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: doesn't work. And he said, you know, you're really hiring 751 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: a CEO. He doesn't have to know schemes. If you 752 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: get Andy Reider Shanahan, that's a bonus. You don't need 753 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: a scheme guy. You need a man who can stand 754 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 1: in front of fifty five alphas and lead the team 755 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: over the hill. Create self belief because everybody's hurt by 756 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: week five. Guys have to believe in each other. That's 757 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: very much Jim Harbaugh. Harball loves his players. Swiss players 758 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: will do anything for him. And that's Dan Campbell. And 759 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: then that's what I've questioned with Mike McDaniel. I don't 760 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: question the intelligence. He's a scheme guy. But you can 761 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: make it in this league being a culture creator and 762 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: not good with schemes, Well, I don't you can. It's 763 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: yet to be proven if you can make it as 764 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: a great scheme guy, but your players don't really trust 765 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: you or believe in you. And Dan Campbell, I remember 766 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: his first year and a half. They were bad and 767 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: I went on the air. I think they played Baltimore 768 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: at home, they lost, and I was like, I don't 769 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: think I've ever seen a team in the league play 770 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: as hard as they do. They're getting hammered. They don't 771 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: have personnel. So I think you if you're a great CEO, 772 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to be anything in the scheme department. 773 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: If you're a great scheme guy, if you don't have 774 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: the ability. That was always the knock on Matt Lafleur. 775 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: Everybody knew he was a great scheme guy, but he 776 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: wasn't the guy who had ever stood in front of 777 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: the room. And he's not a real big brash guy 778 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: with a big ego. Now he's become very good at that, 779 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: but I remember talking to a GM. They say he's 780 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: super smart, but he doesn't have the McVeigh like McVeigh 781 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: walks into a room and he's just like wow. You know. 782 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: Map's kind of quiet, he doesn't need to talk a lot. 783 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: But he's developed into a great culture guy as well. 784 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, listen, it's tough because with Campbell, yes, 785 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 6: I agree with everything you said one hundred percent, but Colin, 786 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 6: there's going to come a time when there's two minutes 787 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 6: left and it's twenty four all right, of the NFC 788 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 6: Championship Game, and all that CEO stuff that Dan Campbell 789 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 6: brings to the table is not going to get you 790 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 6: over the top and get. 791 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 7: You to the end zone. Right, you need the scheme. 792 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 6: So, like most things in life, it's a little fifty 793 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 6: to fifty, maybe sixty forty. 794 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: You hire the scheme. 795 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 4: Right. 796 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 7: So Ben Johnson as. 797 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 6: The OC they take, they make the jump to light speed. 798 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 6: But early on in the Dan Campbell era, they weren't great. 799 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 6: They needed that scheme guy. Now have they found him 800 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 6: in whoever their OC is now? 801 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson. 802 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 7: We'll see. 803 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, the Bengals game could be dangerous. I'm 804 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 6: seeing injury report. I know you don't like him. Lions 805 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 6: could be down boat. Starting cornerbacks against Jason. 806 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: Higgins Philadelphia is a great example. Sirianni's more CEO. He's 807 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: not a scheme guy. Sony had stik in. Oh he 808 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: looked great, Yes, Steike and leaves he's awful. He hires 809 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: Brian Johnson, it doesn't work. Benny hires Kellen Moore, it works, 810 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore leaves. They've got a new guy in now 811 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: it's not working. Right. So Sirianni has been incredibly dependent 812 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: on Howie Roseman's drafting, but he's been as good. Nick 813 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: Sirianni's an offensive guy. He has been as good as 814 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: his coordinators because he's not a scheme guy. He's heavily relented. 815 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: Now he's hired a great one that he missed, and 816 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: they hired a better one. Has he missed. 817 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 7: We don't know. But it's tough. That's tough. 818 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 6: It's like drafting. You don't know what you're getting some 819 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 6: of these ocs. Remember the Houston Texans two years ago, 820 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 6: thought they had their guy awesome ocs like Marisa fires Stroud, 821 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 6: He's gone, We're slowing. 822 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 7: Now, what's he doing? 823 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: Half of these guys. Did anybody ever think Tom Coughlin 824 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: would beat Brady and Belichick in two Super Bowls when 825 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: he was at Boston College. I mean, just don't You 826 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: don't know who you're hiring sometimes