1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: are looking for. Anchor will distribute it all for you 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Download the free Anchor app or go to anchor dot 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: fm to get started. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: On this week's episode. In her Space, something clicked to 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: me and I had this epiphany where it's like external 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: things cannot make me happy, whether it's a relationship, a job, money, 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: being on vacation, being in the most beautiful place in 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: the world. I've realized I've been depressed on vacation before. 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: I realized that nothing outside of me can bring me 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: true happiness. It really comes from within. And that was 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: a really great time for me when I lived in 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: New York for a year to go within. I live 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: by myself, so I had time to just sit with 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: me and figure me out, like who is this terry person? 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: What makes you click? What makes you happy outside of 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: what everyone else wants you to do, or you know, 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: what they want for you or what they define a 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: happiness for you, whether it's you, you know, being in 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: a relationship or getting married, whatever it is what makes 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: you happy. And so I had time to sit with 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: myself in New York when I was by myself, to 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: really identify what does that look like for me? Do 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: you know my question? What was it? What did you 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: come up with? 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: Welcome to her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting women 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: like you. We're your hosts doctor Dominique Broussard, a college 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: professor and psychologist. 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and a motivational speaker. In 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: a world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: please join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: from fibroids, fake friends, and create a safe space where 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: black women can just be all right. 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: So in season one, one of our top three most 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: downloaded episodes was the one about self care. And self 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: care clearly is an important topic considering the times that 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: we're in and clearly something that ladies, you really want 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: us to talk about. More so, today, what we want 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: to talk about, we want to address self care from 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: like a slightly different perspective. So part of self care 47 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: means that you feel good, you are happy, and we'll 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: get more into like what happiness like really means, and 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: more importantly, you're having fun. So just to kind of 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: share a little bit, when after Terry and I recorded 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: that episode, we started to realize that, hey, maybe as 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: we're talking to people about like prioritizing self care and 53 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: we came up with, you know, we put out all 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: these good strategies, we realized that maybe we need to 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: step back and look at our own self care routine. 56 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: So for me, that came with the realization after a 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: therapy session that even though I might be doing things 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: to quote unquote relax, I wasn't having fun. And since then, 59 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: and if you see me on a regular basis, you 60 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: know that I have spoken to this about being intentional 61 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 3: about having fun and adding more lighthearted things into my life. 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: So one of the things I did I went to 63 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: visit one of my sisters and her family and we 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: went to the amusement park. And I don't know about you, lady, 65 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: but going to the amusement park is just one of 66 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: those things that brings out the kid in you. I 67 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: had been to an amusement park in years, but being 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: there like I really did feel more childlike, not childish, 69 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: but child like. And it didn't I will say that 70 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: it helped that I was with some children. So children 71 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: also do tend to bring out that fun and bring 72 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: out that joy in us. And so while I recognize 73 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: that realistically, I'm not going to an amusement park every 74 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: Saturday or Sunday, but it just made me realize that 75 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: they're maybe I should take some time to think of 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: some of the little ways in which I can bring 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: some fun into my life. And so today what we 78 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: want to do is we want to think of those 79 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: small ways that we can stop and have some fun 80 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: when we realize that we need a little bit of 81 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: a pigm up. 82 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: That sounds good to be done, because honest, I feel 83 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: like as an adult, fun has not been my ministry 84 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: because I am so worried about paying these bills, making 85 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: this money. Life is very stressful at times as an adult. 86 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: And I remember talking to my therapist one day and 87 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: she asked, like, well, what do you do for fun? 88 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: And I just kind of paused and I said to her, 89 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: what did I say? I think I may have said like, oh, 90 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: blogging or reading, because I really do, like I'm a nerd. 91 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: I love to read, I love to learn. That is 92 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 2: really fun to me. But she's like, Okay, hold up, pause, 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking about belly something that makes you belly ache, 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: laugh or something that really gives you that feeling of 95 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: kind of like euphoria inno sense. And I was like, oh, well, 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: I don't really have a lot of fun in that way. 97 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: I have different types of fun, but it ain't that fun. 98 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: So I'm excited for this episode so I can learn 99 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: more about how to infuse fun into my life as well. 100 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: And get some of those belly ache and laughs, Like 101 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: that is that laugh so hard you cry? Like I 102 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: don't do that as often as I need to. 103 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: And when I think about back to when I was 104 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: a kid, I was very childish and childlike. I was 105 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: very silly, and I laughed about everything, and every once 106 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: in a while, I'll find myself in a meeting at 107 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: work it's like the wrong setting and something will happen 108 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: and I just you never just had that moment where 109 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: you just laughed and you feel like the laugh is 110 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: coming and it's uncontrollably and you're like it's uncontrollable and 111 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: you're like, you know what, this is not appropriate, but 112 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: it just makes you laugh and you can't help it. 113 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: Those are the moments that we're talking about, right, Yes, 114 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: so I guess we should dive into our quote of 115 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: the day because when you think about it, Don, there's 116 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: so much going on in the world right now. There's 117 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: so much going on in the news. We don't even 118 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: have to address or to talk about it because I'm 119 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: sure that you see it on your social media timeline, 120 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: your friends and send you a group chat about the 121 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: news and what they heard and what's going on in 122 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: the world. And so we really want to like take 123 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: our attention away from that and create a space for 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: us to just have fun, have some lighthearted I light heart, 125 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: a good time, and just dive in. 126 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: Yes, So our quote of day comes from artist Lizzo, 127 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: and if you've seen any of her recent music videos, 128 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: they I mean they embodied fun and so I would 129 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: encourage you to check her out. So her quote says, 130 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: growing up is acting less childish and being more child like. 131 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: Child like I like that. What does that quote mean 132 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: to you? Don? 133 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: What immediately came up for me was like this, I 134 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: think back to when I was a kid and you 135 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: would get we'd go to the store and we get 136 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: those laughing taffies. 137 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and remember how if. 138 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: You opened up the laughy taffy like they had like 139 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: those random corny jokes in there. Yes, And you know, 140 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: I've learned and I'm trying to get better at accepting 141 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: that some of the things that I say that, like 142 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: I think I'm trying to be funny are actually like 143 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: hell corny, right, I'm trying to embrace that and be 144 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: okay with just being corny and those Latin and so 145 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: it reminds me of like those little random like knock 146 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: knock jokes from. 147 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: Right. Yes, I love that, and I think that I'm 148 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: trying to think about you just got it made me 149 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: smile just thinking about that, because I thought about all 150 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: these childhood memories that I have And when I hear 151 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: this quote growing up is acting less childish and more 152 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: and being more childlike, it makes me think about the 153 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: fact that, you know, as we grow up, ideally we 154 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: want we do want to mature, like, we don't want 155 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: to be childish, and you know, we don't want to 156 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: be too silly, especially when it's not appropriate. But as 157 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: far as being childlike, for me, that makes me think 158 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: about creativity. It makes me think about imagination. It makes 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: me think about being unapologetic because you know, kids will 160 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: tell you the truth real quick. I remember going up 161 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: to my little brother when he was little, because I 162 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: raised my siblings that we had, so we had so 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: many good moments. I capture a lot of them on 164 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: camera and on video because it was like, these moments 165 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: are They're so precious, They're never going to come back. 166 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: And I remember one morning I went up to my 167 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: little brother and he was like, what is your breath 168 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: smell like? And I was like, huh. And what he 169 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: was trying to say was your breath stank? Girl, like 170 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: you are my face your breath bank. But he was 171 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 2: just like what is your breath smell like? Because he 172 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: didn't know what to say. And there I actually, I 173 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: feel like I just want to go on a little 174 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: tangent and talk about all these little moments. There were 175 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: other moments. Maybe I'll dive into them later in the show, 176 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: but yeah, being childlike like just having that that freedom 177 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: to think creatively without someone shutting it down or without 178 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: you feeling like, oh that might be a silly idea. 179 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: That's important for us to tap into that because it's 180 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: so pure, so innocent, and that's where a lot of 181 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: bright ideas and witty inventions come from. That imagination that 182 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: we're taught to sort of shut down as an adult 183 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: because we have to be serious and we have to 184 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: be reserved, and we have to be adults, you know, 185 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: like and not be head of the fun ministry anymore. 186 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: You know exactly because I let me tell you, when 187 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: I was young, I was head the fun industry. My 188 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: parents would always be looking at me like, Okay, you're 189 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: doing too much. You need to calm down. And honestly, 190 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: I was actually afraid. I was so fearful to get 191 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: my license because I was so silly and I played 192 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: so much. I was like, Yo, I'm gonna get behind 193 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: someone's car and I'm gonna start swerving it. I'm gonna 194 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: start doing all these dances and I listening to music, 195 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: and I was so nervous about that. But I have 196 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: since become a very mature and very serious adult. Okay, 197 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: so you say so, I say out, I'm like all lies, 198 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: all lies, I'm lying. 199 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: So okay, Like I really wanted to like embrace the corny, 200 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: like not blaffy tapping. Yes, so I found a few 201 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: that I just wanted to like put out there. 202 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: Oh and I. 203 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: Think that sometimes like this helps, right, Like, and so 204 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: you need to break up the monotony, like you need to, 205 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: like you're feeling really like just heavy. I mean literally, 206 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: you can just google laffy tapping jokes. 207 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: Right, good question for you, Dom Are you about to 208 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: try to like make me laugh for something? Are you 209 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: trying to test off your jokes on me or something? 210 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: Seem like you were supposed to actually say it. There's pressure, right, 211 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: so we want to go there. 212 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: Anyway, right, So I just need you to answer the 213 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: questions and go along with the corners. 214 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so what did the house where to the party? 215 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: Don't? 216 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: What do the house where to the party? Wait? What 217 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: am I supposed to say? Do? I just say what 218 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: you're supposed to just answer? Oh? My bad? Okay, what 219 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: did the house where to the party? Drake's address? Address address? 220 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: You get it? That was a good one. I was nervous. 221 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to be on this microphone 222 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: and not laughing down jokes. But if it's not funny, 223 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: don't laugh at my jokes, down. Okay, that was. 224 00:11:54,080 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: Good, that was great, all right, address, Okay, I'm sorry 225 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: that I went called me by surprise because I wasn't. 226 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: I was expecting you to get it right. And I 227 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: think that's like. 228 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 3: One of the cool things about like just letting yourself go, 229 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: just like just being chill and whatever happens happens. So 230 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: here's another one. What opens and shuts But it's not 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: a door or a window. 232 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: My mouth, No, my mouth opens and shuts food. Okay, 233 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: the top your mind opens and shuts your mind a 234 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: door or a window because you have an open mind 235 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: or you can never closed mind. Oh y'all something wrong? 236 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that was That was cute. That was cute. 237 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: But that's the thing, Like that's the key with it 238 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: is to like just let yourself like go there and 239 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: and take a chance. Like we see how you laughed 240 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: at my first one that I wasn't intended for people laugh, 241 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: And then I just randomly pulled another one and was 242 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: like hoping that you would laugh, and it was like 243 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: you didn't laugh, but it paused and like it made. 244 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: Us think for a moment, right, but don but you 245 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: already know what's coming next. Up. I got some jokes 246 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: for you over here. Okay, okay, okay, already okay. Did 247 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: you hear about the Italian chef that died? No, he passed, 248 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: he passed away away. Yeah, I knew. 249 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: I felt it like I felt like you were going 250 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: to have something with Italian food obviously, right, And so 251 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: then like I'm like sitting there wrecking my brain trying 252 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: to figure out, like, wait, so what is it gonna be? 253 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: Like, how is she going to tie this in? You 254 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: got it? Okay? What about this one? Why couldn't the 255 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: bicycle stand up? It kicked the stand Oh okay, I 256 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: like thought, but the answer is ready for the answer. 257 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: The answer is because it was too tired. Oh okay, okay, 258 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So this makes me think about something 259 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: I heard when I was younger. And I don't think 260 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: we have to get caught up on language, but if 261 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: we want to, we could. And so one thing the 262 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: person said was, you know, happiness is not the goal. 263 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: The goal is to be joyful. And the person was 264 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: saying that it's probably my pastor. You'll know, I'm always 265 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: quoting my pastor because it was just so influential for 266 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: me as a kid. But I think, what he said, 267 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: was when you're happy, it's dependent upon what's happening around you, 268 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: Whereas when you're joyful, you can be joyful regardless of 269 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: what's happening. It could be the worst day of your life, 270 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: something bad could be happening, but you have this joy 271 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: within that sort of exudes from your being, and so 272 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: you're joyful regardless of if it's raining outside or you know, 273 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: if it's sunny. And so I really like that and 274 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: I resonated with that, and I think for me, of 275 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: the course of my adulthood, I've been trying to look 276 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: for this joyfulness and I think that I think that 277 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: I've accessed it and I can access it, and so 278 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: that's kind of but yeah, what comes to mind for 279 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: me when we talk about happiness. 280 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: You know, I like that because I think that oftentimes 281 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: when we say, oh, I'm trying to be happy, like 282 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: we might be setting ourselves up for unrealistic expectations of 283 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: if I don't get to that point of feeling happy, 284 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: then something's wrong with me. And then that just puts 285 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: you in this cycle of Okay, well, if I'm trying 286 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: to get to happy, and I'm doing everything that I 287 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: should be doing to be happy, but I'm not there yet. 288 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: What's wrong with me? Right? And I think oftentimes what we. 289 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: End up doing is we are doing all the things 290 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: that should make us joyful, that we should bring happiness, 291 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: but we're not embracing those moments right. Like we're like, Okay, 292 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: so I'm going to go to the amusement park to 293 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: like get some happiness, and while you're there, while you're 294 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: at the amusement park, you're so intent on, Okay, I 295 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: need to be happy. I need to be happy, and 296 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: you're not actually like letting yourself live and be present 297 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: in that moment that you leave the amusement park and 298 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: there's no happiness there. You're like, yeah, I went to 299 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: the amusement park, it was no big deal. When really 300 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,239 Speaker 3: you just step back and you say, like you embrace 301 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: being at the amusement park and doing all the things, 302 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: no matter what the things are, for you, doing all 303 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: the things, the happiness. 304 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: Will come yep. And I think that for me, a 305 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: lot of it also comes down to listening to your body, 306 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: like what is your body telling you? Because sometimes you 307 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: know you may be going through something, maybe it's something 308 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: that's so deep and it's suppressed down in there that 309 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: you can't identify it, and so you are not happy, 310 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: you are not joyful. I think I'm going to use 311 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: them interchangeably just because I feel like happiness is something 312 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: that we use often to you know, right, to denote, 313 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: But I just wanted to make that distinction. But I 314 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: think that you know, sometimes our body is telling us like, hey, 315 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: you have this trauma or this pain or something that's 316 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: going on, and so you may not be able to 317 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: get happy because of this thing, this thing that is blocked, 318 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: or this sort of gap that needs to be connected within, 319 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: and so going within to kind of question yourself like, huh, 320 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm not happy right now. It's okay that I'm not happy. 321 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: I don't have to figure it out, but it could 322 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: be nice to ask yourself a few questions like I 323 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: wonder where this came from, or encourage yourself to just 324 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: kind of push through it and move through that feeling 325 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: and do things that typically do make you happy until 326 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: your body catches up if you can't identify it, or 327 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: of course, consult with your mental health provider or something 328 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: like that. 329 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: Yes, and you know, several mental health providers out there 330 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: are somatic therapy experts where that is Their focus is 331 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 3: helping you tap into what your body is experiencing and 332 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: helping you figure out how to become more in tune 333 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 3: and aware of the physical experiences that you might be 334 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: having when in response to different situations in your life. 335 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: And one thing I want to add down I was 336 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: thinking about when I was living in New York. I 337 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: was living in Queens at the time, and I was 338 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: working at Saint John's University, and that was my first 339 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: big girl job after graduating, I got my master's and 340 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, cool, I'm moving to New York. 341 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to start this new life. And I remember 342 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: I was like, I was somewhere downtown and I just 343 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: pictured this with me. I was downtown. I was walking 344 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: past a building and it had one of those sort 345 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: of tinted windows, and so I looked over and I 346 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: saw myself in the reflection. I had this big old 347 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: curly weave, had them bundles in, and I had these 348 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: big glasses with my nice little peacoat, and I was 349 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: walking and I was on my way to where was 350 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: I going, maybe like dermatologists, I think it was. And 351 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: I remember looking in the mirror or in that storefront, 352 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: and I thought to myself, I have reached this level 353 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: of success that I've been looking for. I've been like 354 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: going to school, I got away from you know, my bad, 355 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 2: you know, tough background, and I got to this point 356 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: where I had my car, I had my own place, 357 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm making the most money I've ever made in my life. 358 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: At that point, I have benefits, and I am not happy. 359 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: Something clicked to me and I had this epiphany where 360 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: it's like, external things cannot make me happy, whether it's 361 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: a relationship, a job, money, being on vacation, being in 362 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: the most beautiful place in the world. I've realized I've 363 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: been depressed on vacation before. Like I realized that nothing 364 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: outside of me can bring me true happiness. It really 365 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: comes from within. And that was a really great time 366 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: for me when I lived in New York for a 367 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: year to go within. I live by myself, so I 368 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: had time to just sit with me and figure me out, 369 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: Like who is this terry person? What makes you click? 370 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: What makes you happy outside of what everyone else wants 371 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: you to do or you know, what they want for 372 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: you or what they define is happiness for you, whether 373 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: it's you you know, being in a relationship or getting married, 374 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: whatever it is what makes you happy, And so I 375 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: had time to sit with myself in New York when 376 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: I was by myself, to really identify what does that 377 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: look like for me? Do you know my question? What 378 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: was it? 379 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: What did you come up with? What were you able 380 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: to identify? 381 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 2: So when I was there, one of the things that 382 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: I realized that really made me happy was working with women. 383 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: So that's where I really began to hone in on 384 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 2: those motivational speaking skills and creating spaces for women. So 385 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: I leaned into my blog a lot. I did on 386 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: campus events with some of the women there. I also 387 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 2: just got more comfortable living in a big city and 388 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: like going around by myself, and I went to networking 389 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: events where I could meet other people. I just went outside, 390 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: Like I just got outside and did stuff, and I 391 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: think new experiences. I learned the new experiences that makes 392 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: me happy. I said this before in another episode, but 393 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: balance in my checkbook that literally makes me happy. I 394 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: want to know how many coins, where are my coins at? 395 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: How many coins do I have in the bank, and 396 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: who's trying to take some coins out? Like I want 397 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: to know. I want to have balance there. And that's 398 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: probably standing from something back in my past growing up, 399 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: but that's important for me to know that. And also 400 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: speaking to my siblings, calling my family, of having good 401 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: conversations with them, and yeah, those are some of the 402 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: things that I realized really make me happy. 403 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: Okay, now, what about the child in you? Were you 404 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: doing anything at that time to nurture the child in you? 405 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I realized that's had a lot of boring happy things. 406 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: I didn't really name any fun fun so okay, so 407 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: a few things I think getting my adrenaline going. So 408 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: going to a what did I go to? It was 409 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: one of those bounce parks, not a bounce purple trampoline 410 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: park something like that, or not a trampoline, but it's 411 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: one of the like a space walk, a bounce space, yes, 412 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: a bounty house, that kind of thing where you can 413 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: just jump up and be care free and not care 414 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: about how do I look, how do I sound? How 415 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: am I coming home? Or all the girl Oh my gosh, yes, 416 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: it's all the grums that going to amusement parks going. 417 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: I went to an improv class that was really fun, 418 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: just just doing just doing stuff where I don't have 419 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: to really be in my head because I'm one of 420 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: those people I overthink everything. I will be walking down 421 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: the street having like two conversations with myself at the 422 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: same time, though I don't respond to myself because you 423 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 2: know what they say. But yeah, so whatever gets me 424 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: outside of my head, whether it's watching a fun movie 425 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: or you know, doing something theater wise, the dance class, 426 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: all at those are the things that really are fun 427 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: to meet these days, I would. 428 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: Say, And I think that that's cool to like identify 429 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: the things that like work for you right now, I 430 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: will say that, like, what I want to think about 431 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: also is what how do we respond to accessing fun 432 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: in the moment when maybe that improv class sounds really exciting, 433 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: but either it's not it doesn't work with our schedule, 434 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: or maybe it costs more than it's in our budget 435 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: because we're trying to make sure people aren't taking too 436 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: many of our coin exactly. 437 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: So, what are. 438 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: Some things that like you like you can think of 439 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 3: that you've done that didn't really cost money or. 440 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: Interfere with your normal schedule. Okay, so really quick, down, 441 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna gets that question. I promise I'm about to 442 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: pull Kanye real quick. I'm gonna answer your question. But 443 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: real quick, I forgot to tell you. So tonight, you know, 444 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: it's Friday night. Tonight, my husband and I are going 445 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: to the Millennium Tour in Oakland, and that right there 446 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: is going to be fun because girl b two K 447 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: Mario the yingan't twins. That for me brings that all 448 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: the memories from I don't know how old, I don't 449 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: know how adai yes, so that right there getting dressed up. 450 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: I saw pictures online if people dressing up in like 451 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: their throwback jersey dresses and wearing you know, the baby girl, 452 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: baby fat all that stuff, and I was just like, 453 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Chinese sanddos, like all that stuff, your 454 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: little just all the stuff that we used to wear 455 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: back in the day. So that is something that I'm 456 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: really looking forward to tonight. But as far as things 457 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: that don't cost a lot of money, I think that 458 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: going on groupon, you know, you do want to if 459 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: you do have a little coin it spend going on groupon. 460 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: But also just going outdoors, like gathering some friends, having 461 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: a little picnic, going on a hike, playing outside, go 462 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: to a playground. I haven't done that in forever, but 463 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: that brings back memories and that would be fun. Just 464 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: make sure that you don't look suspects because I feel 465 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: like being an adult going to a playground by yourself, 466 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: people might look at you a little funny, and you 467 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: don't have any children with you here, it might be 468 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: a little suspect. Yes, but playgrounds are fun. So that 469 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: could be something being out in nature. I don't know 470 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: what else are you thinking about, don. 471 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 3: So okay, So like what comes up for me is 472 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: like I'm thinking about, like, well, if I'm in a 473 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: tough space, then I'm gonna come up with all excuses 474 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: to not do those things right. So I'm gonna say, well, 475 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 3: I mean, but groupon still costs me money. And I 476 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: live in a hot climate and so I'm not going 477 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: outside to a playground when it's one hundred plus degrees outside, 478 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: or I'm not going to that playground when I live 479 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: in a place that where it rains all the time. 480 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking of all the excuses, right. So let's 481 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: say that it's how to tell outside, or it's raining 482 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: cats and dogs outside, and you're like, ah, I need 483 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: some fun, right, So here are my Like I'm a 484 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 3: versive to the outdoors, I'm a versive to spending money, 485 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: no excuses things that you can do inside your home 486 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 3: with material. You already have to have some fun, right, 487 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: no excuses. Okay, So first idea dance party. There you go, 488 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 3: dance party. I mean listen, I remember, like, if you 489 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 3: know me, you know that I am not the best dancer. 490 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: And I'm okay with that. 491 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes I still do get a little embarrassed by 492 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: but or try to hide it. So if you're in 493 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 3: the comfort of your home, pick your favorite dance tunes, 494 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: crank it up, and when that basse drops. 495 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: Do what you do. It's hard to be depressed when 496 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: you're shaking your ass, yes, just saying shake as you 497 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: could do a little two steps. You can do a 498 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: little bounce with the shoulders, right, you know, sit in 499 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: your chair, do the little excellent chair dance. Because most 500 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: of us, even if you're not the best dancer, you 501 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: everybody looks good when they're in the chair throwing a 502 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: little shoulder action. Right, So have yourself a dance party. 503 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: Whatever that dancing looks like for you is just you 504 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: have your dance party. Right. 505 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: The next thing that I like to do is color 506 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 3: and and I know, like the it's a big marketing 507 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: thing now to have like adult coloring books, and those 508 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: things can be really intracrese intricate and detailed. For me, 509 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: I just those things don't necessarily do it for me. 510 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: I like to go back to kid coloring books. Yes, 511 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: preferably stuck with like people, right, but that's my preference. 512 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 3: So you find a coloring book, like you find like 513 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: some color pencils, some markers and crayons, whatever you need, 514 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 3: and you color. 515 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: And let's say you. 516 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 3: Don't have that, you have some scrap paper around your 517 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: house where you can like sit and you can draw 518 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: whatever it is. 519 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: You need to. 520 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: But sometimes just doing some of those like what seems 521 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: like a mindless activity will actually you will find yourself 522 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: feeling just so relaxed. And even though it might not 523 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: seem like quote unquote fun, the goal is to just 524 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: get you out of your normal comfort zone. 525 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: And the fact that you brought that up right when 526 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: you said coloring, I thought, oh my gosh, that sounds 527 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: so stressed for leaving like that's a great way to 528 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: get out of your head. You get onto the paper 529 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: and you just I used to struggle to color in 530 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: the lines, So I just think about like filling off 531 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: the line and coloring it in and make it look pretty. 532 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: I mean that sounds so soothing. 533 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 3: I might have to do that tonight. Right, So what 534 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: were the things that came up for you? Because you 535 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: when I said like, oh yeah, no excuses, here are 536 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 3: the things. 537 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: Oh man Domond, I think I forgot Wait, oh, I 538 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: think I was gonna say, like board games that used 539 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: to be really fun playing board games with little kids, 540 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: like oh my gosh, Monopoly Life, Okay, what's your favorite? 541 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: My favorite? What did I play all the time? Monopoly 542 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: wasn't fun because it used to get a little violent. 543 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: You know, people get you took my property, you get 544 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: you get into family fights with a monopoly, so I 545 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: might have to say. 546 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: See my family like that likely not necessarily the fight, 547 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: the fight, but not the type part, but just like 548 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: the Okay, we just gonna do this and it's gonna 549 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: be in it and somebody might get upset, but that's 550 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: all right, you know, And as I sit back and 551 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: I process it now like that was a good way 552 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: to teach us one like financial literacy skills, right, problem solving, 553 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: critical thinking skills, but also emotion regulation, because what do 554 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: you do if you thought you were winning, like you 555 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: you owned all the properties and then next thing, you know, 556 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: somebody else comes up and takes your stuff exactly. 557 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: How do you respond, Yes, that's a good point, I 558 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: would say, Oh, you know what, Okay, I just thought 559 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: of a few So remember bop it, oh bop It 560 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: was really fun. Twister and I used to play Grand 561 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: Theft Auto. I used to stay on my cousin's sticks 562 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: play Grand Theft Auto. That was my game. Oh okay, 563 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: it's coming back, It's coming back. What is it now? 564 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: So during the Christmas holidays, I was visiting one of 565 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: my sisters and we brought out like an old school 566 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: Super Mario Brothers three. 567 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: Okay, now, first. 568 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: Of all, let me do say I'm just gonna put 569 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: it out there. Then, like back in the day, like 570 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: I remember being really good at and remembering all like 571 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: the secret spots and just learning all of it, right 572 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: and between that and like Tetris and like and then 573 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: Street Fighter and all those video games, right, but and 574 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: so being able to play that game over the Christmas 575 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: holidays was like even though like I lost a lot, 576 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: like I kept losing love, like it just wasn't It 577 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: was just wasn't happening for me, even though I was losing, 578 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: like I still was having a good time, just like 579 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: because it brought me back. 580 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: To that space. 581 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: It brought me back to like a happy time, you know, 582 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: like a joyful time. So tapping into those things that, 583 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: like if you reflect back to your childhood, to the 584 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: happy parts of your childhood, try to bring some of 585 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: those things back again. We're tapping into our inner child. 586 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm just thinking about some of the highlights 587 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: of childhood and some random I just want to say 588 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: some random words and think about what comes to mind 589 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: for you when we say these random words. Gushers, Oh, 590 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: gushers were like the treat that I was like, I 591 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: cannot get enough of these. But I used to always 592 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: have to ask for snacks, so I couldn't just be 593 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: taking them. My mom was clocking them and rationing them out. 594 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: I was like, yo, if I could just get a 595 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: whole box of gushers. I used to always as a kid, 596 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: I had this fantasy of just buying Bubbleisious, bubble gum. 597 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: I used to love bubbleishes, and I wanted to get 598 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: a whole pack and just eat all of them at once. 599 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: To me, I thought that was like the most That 600 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: was just like the biggest fantasy that I had, which 601 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 2: is such a little kid fantasy. Right, let me ask you, so, 602 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: can you blow bubbles with your bubble gun? 603 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: I can? 604 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: I can't, really, I don't, and. 605 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, like I remember like my siblings like 606 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: figuring it out, and I would just be like, I can't, 607 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: but the bubble just gonna taste good. 608 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna kid and so like I think 609 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: about that in terms of like just embracing who you 610 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: are and where you are. 611 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: Right Like, so everyone else is able to like blow big, 612 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: huge bubbles and they're having fun with it. If that's 613 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: not your thing, then figure out like what your thing 614 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: is and embrace your thing. 615 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree with that, And that makes me 616 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: think about double dutch. I want to. I feel like 617 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: I was one of those black girls where I just 618 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: couldn't do the stereotypical black things, Like I couldn't braid, 619 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: for shit. I double dutch my brain in this suspect today. 620 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: But double dutch yo. I used to admire and like 621 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: v everyone that hopped in and they'd be playing you know, 622 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: paddy Cake, and I'm just like, I can't double that's 623 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: my rhythm. I think my coordination is a little off same. 624 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: But it's all good though, because I'm working on it. 625 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: That's why we go to the toy class. But uh, 626 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: double Dutch also heads up StepN Up to a classic 627 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: bad game to play on a rainy day. Yes, I 628 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: used to cheat a little bit. I ain't gonna lie, 629 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: but it's all good. Discovery Zone. Did you ever used 630 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: to go to Discovery Zone? I feel like they had those. 631 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: I don't remember going to them O Energy in San Diego. 632 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: I remember when I was growing up. It used to 633 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: be the place my mom and dad would take us 634 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 2: and we would literally I don't even understand how they 635 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: stayed there for hours as parents, because I would have 636 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: been bored as a parent. But we would just go 637 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: and run into these different like compartments. And remember you 638 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: used to jump into the balls that they had a 639 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: chuck of cheese. Do all that run slide down the slide? 640 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: It was so fun down And I feel like I'm 641 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: just getting so excited and I want to go to 642 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: Discovery Zone just by talking about it. 643 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, you know what, Like, I guess 644 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: this makes perfect sense. Why there are places like Dave 645 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: and Busters or Mayni Zen like places where adults and 646 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: kids alike can get. 647 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: In there and have a good time. 648 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: And so if you budget for it, if it's you know, 649 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: if it's something that you and your family can figure out, 650 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: try checking out like a Davenbusters or a main event 651 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: or whatever whatever adult arcade fun don't type place is 652 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: in your area and have a good time. Just let 653 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 3: that inner child come in. Yes, it's so important for 654 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: us to tap into that inner child. I think it's 655 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: key for our creativity and just for us to show 656 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: up in the world in a way where we can 657 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: really share the gifts that we have unapologetically because kids, again, 658 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 3: kids don't care. 659 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: They will tell you how it is. If you stay, 660 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: if you look funny, they're like, what's that? Why is 661 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: that like that? I mean, yes, I also thought about Mash. 662 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: Remember man, oh, I have my whole life mapped out 663 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: with Mash. 664 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: Like my life was mapped out multiple times. Yeah, like 665 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: just a billion times over. My life is mapped out. 666 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: And if I probably were to find one of those pages, 667 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 3: nothing nothing, nothing but tap into your inner childhood, lady. 668 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: And so the things that I want us to do 669 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: is to I'm going to give. 670 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: Us a little homework, okay, okay, So. 671 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: In between now and the next time you listen to us. 672 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 3: The next time we all gathered in her Space, I 673 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: charged all of us with finding one fun thing that 674 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: taps into our inner child and to actually do it 675 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: and just let ourselves go there. 676 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: What do you think to you that sounds like a plan. 677 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of ideas already, And a lot of it 678 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: just goes back to doing the things that I did 679 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: in childhood, because it was so you know, there were 680 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: moments that were so carefree and I didn't think too 681 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: much about what I was doing. It was just about 682 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 2: having fun, being in the moment and being in my body. 683 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: And I think those are the things that I need 684 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: to do today. So I will take you up on 685 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 2: that homework, and I'll work on that this week, all right, 686 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: And so. 687 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 3: With us on social media on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and 688 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: let us know, lady, like, what are the fun things 689 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 3: that you're doing. If there's things that fun activities that 690 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 3: we miss that you were like, I can't believe they 691 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 3: didn't mention that, Shout us out and let us know 692 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 3: what we need to be doing to have more fun. 693 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us today in her Space. Please note 694 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 3: that our show may contain conversations about self help, advice, 695 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: self empowerment, and mental health, but it is by no 696 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 3: means meant to be a substitute for an ongoing formal 697 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: relationship with a trained mental health provider. If you are 698 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 3: someone you know is in need of mental health care, 699 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: please visit the Therapy for Black Girls directory Psychology Today 700 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: or contact your insurance provider. 701 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: If you like what you heard and want to keep 702 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 2: the conversation going, connect with us on Facebook, Instagram, and 703 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: Twitter at her Space podcast, or check out our website 704 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: at hurtspacepodcast dot com. And before we meet again, repeat 705 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: after me, I release what no longer serves me to 706 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 2: manifest what I desire. Thanks for joining us. We'll see 707 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 2: you next week, Lady