WEBVTT - What's the deal with the Bermuda Triangle? 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know? 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:16.560 From House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.520 the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.720 and that makes this stuff you should know the podcast 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.400 the rip off of stuff they don't want you to 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.600 know in this particular episode. It's right, but that's not 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.840 the case at all. I was just singing Barry Mantel 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.879 to Josh right before we recorded. Yeah, what song is it? 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.760 He had a song called the Bermuda Triangle, and I 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.720 think I remember the gist of it was that the 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.360 Bermuda Triangle not only makes ships and planes disappeared, but 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.519 people from your love life we'll disappear as well through 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.280 the Bermuda Triangle. I don't know, I don't remember, but 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.400 I was, as I told you, I was big into 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.000 very Man. I was a kid up for some reason. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.760 When I was eight, I just thought he was the 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.600 bee's knees. He's very cool. Yeah, he asked me, you 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.520 me has every single one of his records at homes 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.440 lost to go home and route that song out. I 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.280 still have get to the bottom of stub mind in 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.319 the attic, do you? Oh yeah, it's sweet. Do you 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.040 have a nice record collection hitting up in the attic? Um, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.440 I've got about two crates, not not a ton, but 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.400 i'll bet their choice. Yeah, they're pretty good. Okay, Well 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.920 there you have at the Bermuda Triangle. Thank you everybody. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.160 The records range from Barry Manilow to like Molly Hatchett. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.840 So that tells you what happened between ages nine and 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:37.480 fifteen for me, Um, chuck, Josh, you want to get 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.400 to this. Yeah, yeah, I mean you were a kid. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.280 You just admitted to being a kid once. I was once. Um, 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.240 so of course the Remuda tryan al must have struck 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.920 your fancy at some point. Well, in the seventies it 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.440 was a big deal. Like I remember it being a 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.559 big deal in the seventies and I was kind of thinking, 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.840 you know, you never hear about it anymore. But I 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.440 think it was due to the book. Charles Berlitzs book 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:08.000 came out in nineteen What was it called the Bermuda Triangle. Oh, oh, 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.560 it's the Bermuda Triangle. Um, oh no, that's a different one. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.440 No, No No, his was just a Bermuda Triangle. But his 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.400 sold twenty million copies. And like, I remember this being 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:17.960 a big deal at the time. It was like on 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.320 the Mike Douglas Show. And yeah, so I think that's 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:21.920 why it was so big in the seventies. People were 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.560 dumber back then. Plus Berry Manlow that was in the seventies. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.040 It was I'll bet it he wrote that song after 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:31.280 the book. Um, well, if you wanted to talk about this, 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.480 my intro wasn't that good anyway, So you want to 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.240 just get into the Bermuda Triangle. The intro disappeared like 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.200 so many ships at sea. That was very good, Charles W. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.920 Chuck Bryant, thank you. Um. So we think of the 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:51.639 Bermuda Triangle. Is this old, possibly ancient, possibly lost mystery. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.720 Um that is that forms a triangle. It's a geographical, 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.560 made up, fictitious geographical area bounded were or with its 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:05.400 points between San Juan, Puerto Rico. Um, Bermuda greatly enough 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.880 and Miami. Um it's real, but it's just not like 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:14.760 it's not recognized by any official geographic bodies. Right. But 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.480 if you look at a map, you could also make 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.920 Bermuda quadrahedron with like eight other places too, So yeah, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.880 it's as real as the Bermuda quadrahedron. Um. It's not 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.040 real if you are a member of the U S 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.560 Board of Geographic Names, because they don't recognize it formally. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:36.000 Most people don't, um, not officially at least. Um. But 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.960 I was saying that, you know, it seems like it's 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.760 been around a long time. It wasn't until nineteen four 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.600 that it got its name. Did you know that? I 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.920 did because we actually researched this a long time ago 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.440 and didn't do it for some reason. So I knew 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:52.760 it from then, but only from then. Um. And there 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.560 there's I mean, if you are into this kind of thing, 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.800 you are well aware that there have been hundreds and 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.960 hundreds of ships that have gone miss seeing over say 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:07.320 the past century. Um, planes, ships, cars, somehow people just 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.680 gone depends on who you asked, right, well, it depends 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.240 on you know how, like I say, if you're into 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.000 it or not. And basically the key to the Bermuda 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:22.760 triangle is statistics. How you take statistics, how you either 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:27.360 manipulate them yourselves or or how you accept statistics at 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.560 face value, is probably a pretty good indicator about how 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.760 you feel about the Bermuda Triangle. Um, there's been all 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:41.560 sorts of explanations from uh, basically natural phenomenon, to the 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.599 idea that Atlantis is down there somewhere, which we'll get into, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.720 to the idea that it's really no different than anywhere 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.480 else and it's just a bunch of uh sensationalism. Yes, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.000 but no matter how you look at the Bermuda Triangle, 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:02.880 it encompasses about five square miles. It's huge and extremely 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:07.040 well traveled. It's not off the beaten path at all. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.320 You a lot of people want to go to Bermuda. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.839 The Bahamas is in there, I mean, come on. Yeah. Plus, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.520 it's just it's just a heavily traveled route in area. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:20.680 Right as far as shipping goes, I imagine two right. So, Um, 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.760 Supposedly there's been as many as a hundred ships and 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.599 a thousand lives lost in the Bermuda Triangle in the 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:32.680 last century. Right. Some say part of the problem is 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.000 the Coast Guards supposedly says that it doesn't that there's 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:40.520 not an unusual amount of incidents there that Okay, a 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.560 thousand people have died and a hundred ships have been 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.680 lost in last hundred years. Yeah, that's nothing. Um. Other 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:52.000 people say, no, that's not the case. Lloyd's of London, which, 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.920 by the way, Chuck, if you listen to the Coffee podcast, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.520 the tie that binds coffee to Bermuda Triangle is to London. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.200 It's right, uh. In nive the editor of Fate magazine, 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:10.159 Mary Margaret Fuller, Um, she contacted Lloyd's of London and said, hey, um, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.360 can you give me a list of payoffs for the 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.440 Bermuda Triangle? And lloyd said sure we can. Of course, 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.479 we do this thing all the time. And um, four 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.159 hundred and twenty eight vessels were reported missing throughout the 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:30.080 world between nine and the Bermuda Triangle didn't have any 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.240 significantly higher incidents than any other area, supposedly, which is 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.719 why the insurance premiums the Bermuda Triangle are no different 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.720 than anywhere else as well. Yes, you should point out, uh, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.080 if you ask a guy, I love this guy's name 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:49.000 name g n this' with a G, I, A N J. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.320 Let's just come on and say it, Gan Quasar, Gene 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.800 and J Quasar. Is that is that supposed to be? 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.239 That's what I'm calling right, Have you been his page? No? 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.800 Actually that's not true. He um. He he's the administrator 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.719 of Bermuda hyphen Triangle dot org and I believe I 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.640 have been to that page before. And he's the author 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:14.520 of Into the Bermuda Triangle Cohen Pursuing the Truth behind 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.320 the World's Greatest Mystery. Yes, I went to his site 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:18.760 because I felt like I owed it to him to 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.160 check this out. And it is another one of those 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.840 sites that looks like my Space page from like two 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:28.160 thousand two. And it doesn't draw you in as far 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.240 as looking valid. I'm not saying it's not, but it 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:36.040 doesn't look super professional. There has there's like texts that's overlapping, 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.600 the images in some pages don't load like user A 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:44.200 good user experience adds tremendous veracity to one's fantastic claims. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.400 It really does, Mr Quasar, We mean it. If you 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:52.800 update your user experience, people will listen more. I would 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.680 have honestly stayed on the site a lot longer. I've 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.040 been like, let me look at this, but as soon 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.360 as I saw it, I went come on. But despite 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:03.240 his lack of web design skill, yes, yeah, he has 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.120 like put a lot of time and effort and energy 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.520 into researching the Bermuda triangle, and he's one of the 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.520 ones that says, hey, Lloyd's of London, that's that's that's 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.440 why would you go to Lloyds of London. That's what 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.960 he says. Well, he says that Lloyds of London doesn't 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:21.400 even keep track of smaller craft, and a lot of 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.760 these smaller craft are missing, and they don't even insure yachts, 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.000 which is not true. I look that up. I thought 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.920 that was odd. I'm glad you looked. I don't know 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.280 if they're maybe he means yachts of a certain size, 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.439 but they definitely insure yachts. In fact, they were, ironically, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:39.080 if I'm not mistaken, the originators of maritime insurance way 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.839 back when. I might be wrong, but I thought, I remember, 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:46.079 I don't think you're wrong. Um, so well Mr Quasar 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:50.439 went to the coast Guard instead. Uh. The coast Guard 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:55.719 has um definitive records on missing vessels, but they call 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:01.880 them um delayed overdue vessels. Like a three hour tour 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.520 that hasn't come back. Yes, so it's overdue. It's supposed 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:09.320 to be there after three hours, a hundred and eighty 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.079 thousand hours ago, so it's a very long overdue so 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.800 Mr Quasar found that um that he he was. He 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.559 says that he was given data on overdue vessels UM 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.080 after asking for twelve years, and found that in the 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.520 previous two years, the Coast Guard had records of three 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.600 hundred missing or overdue vessels. Now does that mean that 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.839 they were still overdue or they were overdue by a 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.760 couple of hours and they were just at one point 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.200 listed his overdue There is an excellent question. I didn't 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.760 get that. That is a very good question. Well, I 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.559 hope this guy listens to the podcast. Maybe you can 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.600 tell us. I bet we could contact him through his 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.440 website too. I bet it's not that hard. He also 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.960 went to the National Transportation Safety Board and looked at 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.080 their database and said, hey, okay, let's just take a 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.720 random place. Then if the Bermuda Triangle is no different 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.640 than any other area, how about off the coast of 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.679 New England. Uh, And we'll say for the last ten years, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:08.200 there's only been a few disappearances of vessels in the 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.839 Bermuda Triangle over that same time period. I would ask 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.719 Mr Quasar, like, just give me more stats, like did 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.120 he compare the amount of travel? Was it all equalized? 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.440 Whether did he take everything into consideration, right? And I 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.800 mean maybe the the coast of New England has a 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.040 disproportionately low amount of missing vessels, whereas the Gulf of 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:35.640 Mexico or the Pacific Ocean has higher than the Bermuda Triangle. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.640 Depends on what you're comparing it to him. Or did 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.800 they have a lot of boats sink that they found 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.959 because the water wasn't as deep or was easily accessible, 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:50.080 because he's talking about disappearances like where you never find wreckage, right, Um, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:56.000 So I guess gen Quasar G and J. Quasar Um 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.240 is a torch bearer of a very long line of 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.520 people who have really sunk their teeth and time and 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:08.040 energy into this solving this mystery, or or possibly even 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.400 promoting something that isn't a mystery as a mystery because 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:17.000 they genuinely believe it, Um. And probably what's what kicked 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:21.120 the whole thing off um, at least in the public's imagination, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:27.320 was the missing Squadron, the lost flight Flight nineteen which 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:32.839 Chuck actually disappeared UM in sixty six years ago. Last week, Yeah, 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.960 they had a little ceremony down at um Fort Lauderdale 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:40.480 Hollywood International Airport UM to honor the fourteen servicemen who 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.200 were lost on that flight flight nineteen. But that was 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.160 that made huge headlines. Yeah, I mean you want to 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:48.960 go and tell the story. Yeah, let's talk about flight 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.679 nineteen UM. And you know, I want to point out 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.560 that this is one of the leading stories. And in fact, 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.880 when you go back and look at all the research, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.520 a lot of this is based on a handful of 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.640 stories that have been retold over and over and over 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.760 by all these different people. So it seems like there's 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:11.880 more than there are. No, it's just the whole, the whole. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.000 A mystery of the Bermuda triangle is based on a 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:21.679 handful of disappearances that are noted, no, noteworth and not like. Okay, 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:27.760 so h u S Navy Avengers Flight nineteen uh five, 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.439 missing Navy pilot h Avengers. I guess is that the 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.239 kind of plane? Yeah? There, Navy grum and TBF Avengers. 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.959 They were propeller planes, fighter fighter jets or fighter prop 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.840 planes from the end of the war. Okay, So they 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:47.280 set out on a routine patrol sunny day five highly 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.480 experienced student pilots, which is a little bit of a 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.520 contradiction in terms. Yeah, but I mean, these were Navy pilots, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.640 So I mean, I'm sure if you put them side 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.960 by side to any other student pilots, they would do 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:03.120 they would dog fight them into into humiliation, into oblivion. Uh. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:07.320 Lieutenant Charles C. Taylor led the mission, and the mission 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.959 included a few course changes departed at one fifteen scheduled 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.880 course changes. Yeah. Basically Taylor knew what he was doing 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.000 and this was a routine flight. That's what some say. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:23.760 There's also speculation that's Taylor wasn't super experienced. Well, actually 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.240 the other pilots weren't super experienced, and that he had 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:32.160 a consistent record of navigation troubles, including ditching airplanes twice 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.560 into the Pacific Ocean. Well that's just routine Navy hazing 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.760 back then. Uh, but we'll get into that. So Taylor 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.959 led the missions. Uh, they took off. We're flying over 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:48.480 Fort Lauderdale, Florida, when they heard a signal um that 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.160 they thought was from a boat or a plane in distress. No, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.679 that was Cox that heard that signal. But he was 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.600 part of the crew, right, was he. It was he 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.920 at the base. He was another guy who was flying 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.640 over a different to Florida. Okay, yeah, he was. He 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.079 kind of tried to help them. He got the distress 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.640 signal and he tried to figure out where they were 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:11.920 and was giving them, Um, okay, that makes more sense. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.800 So Cox uh told Taylor fly with the sun at 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.040 your left wing and up the coast until you see Miami, 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.200 and you'll know my Miami when you see it. Taylor said, no, no, no, 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.360 we're over a small island and there's no other land anywhere. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.800 If it was a Florida Keys, which he thought it was, 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.880 he would have seen a bunch of islands obviously, and 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.800 Florida sticking down there. And they only had a couple 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.760 of hours left of fuel. And then Taylor described a 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.680 large island that they assumed was Andros Island, which is 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.040 the largest island in the Bahamas. And so they sent 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.560 him back further instructions to get him to Fort Lauderdale. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.200 Is that right? Yeah, But there's a big part that 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.720 you left out here, and this is important. Taylor reported 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.840 that everything looked wrong quote yeah, and that his compasses 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.720 were um going haywire. Well yea, and those are two 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.240 those are big, yeah, those are big. When he started 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.600 on this heading, his voice started coming through. Uh, clearer 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.000 and louder, which they took to mean all right, that 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.960 you're headed in the right direction, right, because the bass 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:17.800 he was talking to was in Fort lauder Down. Yeah, 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.360 so like you're getting closer, you're on the right path. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.320 But Taylor said, no, no no, no, I don't think you're right. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.000 I don't think we went far enough east, so we're 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.200 gonna turn around and go east again. Um. At that 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:32.000 point the voice got less clear and further away, indicating 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.440 that he was probably going in the wrong direction. And 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.880 then that was it. They never heard from him again 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.840 or anybody else. They never found any records as far 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:47.040 as I understand, they were just lost, all five Navy avengers. Um. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.440 And there were two seaplanes that were sent out and 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.560 one of them exploded right after takeoff and the other 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.800 one never found any trace of flight nineteen Yeah, so um, 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:02.000 that's so. In nineteen fifty two, and author George sand 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.680 wrote an article for Fate magazine called c Mystery at 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.960 our back Door and first described a quote watery triangle 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:14.440 bounded roughly by Florida, Bermuda and Puerto Rico, And then 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:22.320 in nine uh ragosig sorry Argosy magazine finally gave the 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.000 Triangle its name in an article by Vincent Gaddis called 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:30.600 the Deadly Bermuda Triangle, which is a pulp magazine that 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.400 writes fiction. But somehow people missed that and took it 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.600 to be a real thing. Right. It even says the 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.880 magazine's tagline is a magazine of master fiction. And when 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.480 you look at it, like I looked it up, it's 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.760 it doesn't look like a valid are not valid, But 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.160 it doesn't look like a newsweek you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.080 I know it's UM. Part of the other uh, I 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.000 think thing that captured the public's imagination and that was 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.760 kind of lost on people was originally the Navy UM said. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.440 They said that flight nine he was lost due to 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.399 pilot error, and uh, Lieutenant Taylor's family was like, no, 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.480 he was way too experience for that. There's no way 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.480 he would do this. There's something else. So the Navy 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.240 was pressured to change it, because this is back when 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.920 the Navy was like, all right, all right, we don't 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.640 want your feelings to be hurt. Uh, And they changed 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:23.440 it to um something caused unknown, yes, which sounds very mysterious. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.399 Exactly so, and if the Navy is saying we lost 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:32.400 five fighter planes to cause is unknown in this area 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.399 that people are calling the Remuna Triangle. That's what really 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:40.040 gave the Remuna Triangle its initial boost into the capturing 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.240 the public imagination. Yeah, and like I said, I've looked 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.800 up more on Taylor, and apparently the truth is the 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.280 only other four or the other four pilots didn't have 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.879 significant experience. Taylor had a history of getting lost, and 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.680 by the time of his final transmission, they were low 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.440 on fuel, they weren't near land, bad weather came in, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.560 and they probably crashed and landed on the bottom of 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:11.280 the ocean. Right. Not very mysterious, no, um. But the 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.560 fact that they were never heard from again, I mean 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.600 that does again capture the public's imagination. That does. That's 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.399 what happened. They're just gone. Things aren't supposed to go, 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.879 especially not airplanes. You're not supposed to not find a 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.880 trace of something. Um. There have been plenty of other 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.440 things that have gone missing, Like you said, a lot 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.720 of them are very famous. UM. One, the Mary Celeste, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.640 is commonly listed on as a disappearance of the Bermuda Triangle. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.600 Not so the Mary Celeste, which was a brig from 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.560 the late nineteenth century. I think the eighteen seventies um 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.679 set sail from New York to Spain and shouldn't have 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.720 come anywhere near the Bermuda Triangle when it was found 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:53.240 around the Strait of Gibraltar, floating adrift, with nary a 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:58.880 soul board being still on the grill, a pipe still smoking. 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.119 I think when they found it, no explanation whatsoever, just gone. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.200 But it had nothing to do with the Bermuda trying. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.879 I wonder how it got mixed up. People just claim 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.520 it that's the problem. It's like, Okay, if there is 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.960 something going on here, you're not You're not helping your 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:19.760 case in getting it across to incredulous skeptics right by saying, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:26.000 plus the mary celasts and that's something exactly UM. But 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.439 there was there was one that is legitimately chalked up 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:35.240 to the Bermuda Triangle, the MILWAUKEE'SO Airlift wing plane six eight. 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.400 Let's hear about this. So in nineteen on a clear night, 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:44.640 UM a ship, I'm sorry, a UM flying box car, 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.159 the fair Child C one nineteen, huge, huge old plane. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:53.800 It's like the Spruce goose. Huge. UM. It began it 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.480 lifted off from Milwaukee on its way to Grand Turk 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.640 in the Bahamas, which is that's that's like it. That's 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.399 a nice duty, I'm sure. Um. And it landed at 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.080 Homestead Air Force Base at five or four pm, hung 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.840 around for almost three hours, and then lifted off at 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.399 seven pm on its way to the Bahamas. And I 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:19.680 was never heard from again after about um halfway there. 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.640 I think I never heard from again. No one ever 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.479 found a trace of it. One of the things that 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.520 really um captures the imagination about this one is it 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:34.000 had a full crew of really experienced flight mechanics and 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.479 flight engineers who knew what they were doing. So if 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.560 there is anything that was wrong with this plane, there 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.560 are plenty of people on board to fix it. Right. 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.520 But nothing the planes has gone forever, no trace, no 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.320 one ever heard of it. Said they found a few 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.600 scraps of debris, yes, but they think that that could 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.400 have been scuttled. It didn't appear to have undergone any 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.840 damage or anything like that. Just like they were right, 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.639 there's the Sulfur queen Um, which is a ship that 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.119 had like a hundred and fifty thousand tons of molten 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:07.760 sulfur aboard, and they found scraps of or and stuff 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.560 like that that would indicate an explosion. Sure, there's nothing 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.760 that indicated that with the um with plane six eighty. 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.159 It just sank first, or maybe it was lifted to 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:23.440 a distant planet. Well, that is that is one explanation 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.000 that people use. So let's talk about we're gonna divvy 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:31.240 up the explanations into far fetched theories, yes, which is 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.720 what the article I think very fairly calls them. Sure, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:38.800 and at least using Ackerman's razor. Uh. And then two 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:43.000 more scientific explanations. So let's start with the intensely more 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:47.480 fun and entertaining farfetched theories. Yes, I mentioned UFOs and 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:52.760 alien abduction, and that is a pretty hotbed of UFO 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.960 sightings down there. And some people have theorized that that's 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:01.040 what's going on there there poor in these ships and 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:06.560 planes abducting them to their universe, their planet, or it 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:11.640 may actually be a portal to other planets. Yes, they 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.240 think that possibly if there are portals that a blue hole, 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.160 which there are several in the Bermuda Triangle, are wormholes 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:23.120 through dimensions or time and space, and uh that this 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.600 is a highly trafficked portal in the Bermuda Triangle and 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:31.040 ships and planes get sucked into it accidentally. Uh. Some Josh, 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.600 think again, these are the far fetched theories that we're 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:38.280 going over now. Some think, Josh, that it is home 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.159 to the lost city of Atlantis, who which may or 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.560 may not have been populated by a race of aliens. Correct, 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:49.200 they had advanced technologies, some say including a death ray weapon. 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:53.160 So some say that destroyed Atlantis Eventually. Agred Casey said, 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.840 have you heard of him? I have the Sleeping Psychic 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.520 or a sleeping profit of Virginia Beach. Yeah. He he 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:02.800 was really hot for Atlantis. He was, and he predicted actually, 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:05.720 um that in the sixties. He didn't predict it in 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.520 the sixties. He predicted that in the sixties people would 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.879 find evidence of Atlantis off the coast of Bimony. And 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:15.680 surely enough in nineteen was it. Yeah, they found what's 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.679 known as the Biminy Road. Now, this is pretty interesting, 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.480 I think it is. It depends on your viewpoint, like 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:26.080 Bermuda Triangle as a whole. But yes, there's a long, um, 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.199 what looks to be a road of shaped blocks of 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.560 rock in about fifteen ft of water off the coast 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.000 of Bimony. Yeah, and it's cool looking and uh, a 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.679 lot of people say, no, this is just something that 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:43.159 happened naturally, like a coral reef mite. And others have 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.960 studied it and said, you know what, these stones are 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:50.000 shaped and they're placed there very purposefully as a wall. 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:56.119 So it's also called the Biminy Wall or road, and uh, 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:59.080 this could have been tied to Atlantis somehow, could have 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.440 been a lot of people say also, look, there's tool 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:06.600