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Speaker 1: So we got a lot of stuff to do here.

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Speaker 1: And I do want to say the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: game is about to kick off, and this will be

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Speaker 1: the biggest game the Lions win all year.

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Speaker 4: I just want to put that out there.

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Speaker 2: Louisiana rub and some hot honey Wings.

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Speaker 1: Disappointed like this is this is going to be I

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Speaker 1: think this is going to be, rob G, more epic

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Speaker 1: than when Chris went and tried on those Jordans after

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Took a two nothing lead against the Nationals.

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Speaker 2: And putting your foot in the soul is crazy, right, like, well, like,

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Speaker 2: what what are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: putting your foot in the shoe is crazy. Although I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, rob G, this game is so mean list

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Speaker 1: that Trey Lance is playing.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, wow, I mean, let's just call it

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Speaker 2: Ain't black quarterbacks, but day I'm just saying what.

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Speaker 5: That's right, Trey Lance, the former top three overall pick

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Speaker 5: in the NFL Draft twenty twenty one, We'll be getting

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Speaker 5: the start tonight in the Hall of Fame game because.

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Speaker 1: Just forty nine to brain trust should have been fired

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Speaker 1: years ago, but they got lucky with the mister irrelevant.

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Speaker 4: That's what it's still.

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Speaker 5: Around because Chargers QB one Justin Herbert will not dress.

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Speaker 5: a couple hours ago, I put this tweet out, not

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Speaker 4: I say. Nobody brings it up because he went number three.

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Speaker 5: Is a number one, but Trey Lance has to be

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Speaker 5: the front runner for the biggest bust in NFL history.

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Speaker 5: Two teams didn't even need to really see him play

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Speaker 5: Lance will be entering his fifth NFL season. He's only

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Speaker 5: a question. I believe Trey Lance is easily the biggest

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Calvin he is, so, I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why. And I thought long and

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Speaker 2: he's the biggest bust. Now he's the quietest bust, and

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Speaker 2: that is the biggest one. But the reason why he's

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Speaker 2: so bad that nobody even gives him a chance to play.

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Speaker 2: And you start digging in some of the other guys,

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Speaker 2: rob they at least got seasons or another season, two,

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Speaker 2: three seasons or sixteen eighteen twenty five starts. He don't

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Speaker 2: and they moved all the way up to get him.

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Speaker 2: And part of the bust part of it is, mister irrelevant,

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Speaker 2: took your spot. That's that's you, the guy on the block,

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Speaker 2: and a nerdy little dude comes and takes your girl.

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Speaker 2: That can't happen. Right, the little lame, nerdy dude in

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Speaker 2: some nineteen eighties rom com stole your girl, duck Ducky

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Speaker 2: from what is that sweet? Sixteen or sixteen candles steals

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Speaker 2: your girl that can't happen. Trey Lance is so bad.

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Speaker 2: He's so bad we actually forget about him. Because you

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Speaker 2: remember JaMarcus Russell, you remember A Q. Smith, You for

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Speaker 2: sure remember Ryan Leaf. We bring these other guys up

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Speaker 2: when we talk about bus. Trey Lance is so bad,

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Speaker 2: we actually don't forget about him. He's like the football

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Speaker 2: version of Anthony Bennett. You don't even remember Anthony Bennett.

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Speaker 2: You talk about OLAA. Candy or maybe Ben Simmons when

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Speaker 2: you talk about bus Mark hall Fultz. Anthony Bennet was

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Speaker 2: so bad you forgot him. And that's what Trey Lance is.

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Speaker 2: We don't even remember him. So it's disappointing how he

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Speaker 2: doesn't even get a chance to play. Teams don't even

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Speaker 2: when I really look at it, other guys at least

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Speaker 2: get your chances. You might just suck, but you get

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Speaker 2: your chances. He's walking up with the clipboard and they're saying, nah,

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Speaker 2: bro we good. And that's to me why he is

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Speaker 2: he has to be. He doesn't even get a shot.

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Speaker 2: Rob everybody else got a shot.

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Speaker 4: I disagree with you.

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Speaker 1: Here's my problem. Trey Lance to me was a was

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Speaker 1: questionable at best. Okay, he played one college season only

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Speaker 4: What he had two hundred and eighty seven attempts, So.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't even really you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: they thought they were geniuses and they saw something because.

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Speaker 4: You remember, the talk was he hadn't played enough.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't enough tape on him, right, So for him

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Speaker 1: to be drafted, for them to move up and draft

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Speaker 1: him third, that's on them. I don't what's his body

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Speaker 1: of work that you thought, seriously, Kelvin, he was gonna

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Speaker 1: be something special. He didn't do anything in college. This

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Speaker 1: was a question mark from Jump Street. That's why he

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Speaker 1: can't be the biggest bust. And then you have JaMarcus Russell,

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Speaker 1: of course, who was the overall number one pick, and

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Speaker 1: that was just a disaster from day one. But I

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Speaker 1: still think that it's this guy who is the biggest

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Speaker 1: bust in NFL history.

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Speaker 2: Don't talk to me, all right, knock it.

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Speaker 1: Up right leave, don't talk to me like that. Dude

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Speaker 1: was like was bonkers. He was terrible and he acted

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: He was like he was unhinged because he was terrible

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Speaker 1: and people were asking questions. He was a guy right

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Speaker 1: second overall pick and he was like this guy where

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Speaker 4: This is the thing that's different is that people.

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Speaker 1: Were like, oh my god, Ryan Leif started only eighteen

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Speaker 1: games four and fourteen. He was supposed to be the

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Speaker 1: new hotness. He was supposed to be something special. That's

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Speaker 1: not what Trey Lance was supposed to be. Nobody. That's

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Speaker 1: why that's why the forty nine ers people get off

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Speaker 1: Scott Freed. It's because he really, if you're honest about it,

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Speaker 1: and I get it, to be drafted as third and

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Speaker 1: they moved up. And here's the other part. He didn't

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Speaker 1: play enough for us to say that he can't play.

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Speaker 1: He got hurt in his first year. What did he play,

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Speaker 1: rob g Three games? Remember he played like three games.

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Speaker 1: One was in the rain. He got hurt and then

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Speaker 1: that was it. They really didn't give him a chance.

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Speaker 1: Like That's why I can't believe that he could be

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Speaker 4: He just did not get a chance to play enough.

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Speaker 4: Whereas I look at Ryan Leaf, the Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Leaf has clearly because of all the craziness and the

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Speaker 2: seem to be in a better place now. If anybody

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Speaker 2: you know you've seen him speaking, he went off, he

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Speaker 2: was unhead whiched. Yeah, his life went down as well

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Speaker 2: some of these guys when you look dive deep into it.

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Speaker 2: JaMarcus Russell being another. I mean coming in twenty at

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Speaker 2: two ninety, coming in a camp at two ninety, as

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Speaker 2: crazy as a quarterback getting a DVD that has nothing

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Speaker 2: on it, and then they asked you, Hey, did you

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Speaker 2: watch the tape? Yeah, I got I watched the tape.

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Speaker 2: Man that was you know, I saw all the highlights.

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Speaker 2: Oh Harrison is there that dude? That's embarrassing. But so

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at those. But the one thing I'm

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Speaker 2: saying about Trey Lance is usually in NBA, NFL, it

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Speaker 2: would be something when you're a third pick. We're gonna run,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna exhaust all options with you.

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Speaker 1: But he didn't playing college though, Can you at least

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that he you.

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Speaker 2: Know, he wasn't Peyton Manning' esque or you know some

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Speaker 2: I'm saying to Zach Wilson, wasn't that guy coming out

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Speaker 2: like that? But Zack Wilson gets you know, got a

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Speaker 2: couple of years, he got chances, nobody like he had. No,

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Speaker 2: he had a better year. But I'm saying, there have

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Speaker 2: been other guys who come from smaller schools. You've Ben Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 2: guys who come Josh Allen who come from smaller people.

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Speaker 4: Was stunned when the forty nine has moved up to

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Speaker 4: take him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just like which I'm saying, because they're

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Speaker 1: trying to be geniuses.

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Speaker 2: If I That's why I'm saying, you know, owners love

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Speaker 2: we're good and credit them because you and I have

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Speaker 2: Listen that, Troy. That's why Trey Anderson get your money

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Speaker 2: All right, Rob, taking some coke phone calls. Biggest NFL

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Speaker 1: Fox Who we got Eric in Austin, Texas. You're on

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Speaker 4: What's up, Eric?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 10: Rob?

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Speaker 5: What up? Vin?

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Speaker 4: What up? What up?

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Speaker 10: Welcome back, welcome back? We missed you, Thank you, Hey,

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Speaker 10: I Rob, I'm with you. I can't put that much

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Speaker 11: A four, eight forty. Everything was there. He just didn't want.

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Speaker 11: Welcome back, welcome back, Thank you boss. This dude, I've

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Speaker 11: Every day, almost every day, I agree with you, Rob,

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Speaker 10: Kelvin?

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Speaker 4: How are you.

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Speaker 10: A real opportunity.

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Speaker 11: He's been sitting on the bench.

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Speaker 13: He's been forgotten about.

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Speaker 1: because they're not practicing, well you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Listen, he is deficient. He's missing something because something that

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Speaker 2: they're treating. Yeah, they're treating him like they They're like, absolutely,

441
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Speaker 2: he's got the plague. They're like, no, we're good. You

442
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Speaker 2: ain't gonna see the field. So obviously he'll be out

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Speaker 2: there tonight, so we'll see what he does tonight. This

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Speaker 2: is a chance, you never know. This is a chance

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Speaker 2: to at least maybe be a solid backup in the

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Speaker 2: league and get a few reps here and there. All right,

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Speaker 2: we got Christy Brennan on the other side. Right now,

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Speaker 2: Martin Weiss can get you set on what's trending, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Mark Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup

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Speaker 2: We are joined now by Christine Brennan, has a book

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Speaker 2: on her game Kaitlyn Clark and the Revolution in Women's Sports.

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Speaker 2: It is available for purchase now on The book debut

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Speaker 2: at number two on the New York Times best Seller list.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations with that, Christine.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you. Yeah, you know, we'll have to give

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Speaker 6: a little credit to the interest in and the power

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Speaker 6: of Kaitlin Clark. But it's great to be with you guys.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Christine, you should have been number one. I'm number two.

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Speaker 1: I'm stunned. I know, I'm not trying to be greedy.

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Speaker 1: How are you not number one?

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Speaker 4: Debut? Number one on the New York Times bestseller list? Seriously?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, they have meetings and they had everything up,

467
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Speaker 6: and there was a book on the assassination attempt on

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Speaker 6: President Trump called Butler, and that's a really fine journalist. He's,

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Speaker 6: you know, got a lot of I have not read

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Speaker 6: the book, but I'm sure she's got a lot of information.

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Speaker 6: So you know, I'll take number two a New York

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Speaker 6: Times bestseller, instant bestseller. It's such an honor because literally,

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Speaker 6: you guys, a year and two three weeks ago, we

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Speaker 6: didn't even have a book. You know, this was like

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Speaker 6: the moment, you know, you're seeing this Kaitlin Clark phenomenon.

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Speaker 6: I've covered women's sports for my you know, the length

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Speaker 6: of my career, and men's sports, Super Bowls, Olympics, you know,

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Speaker 6: you name it, Tiger Woods and having never seen anything

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Speaker 6: quite like this, and a female athlete, especially a team

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Speaker 6: sport athlete, you know the magic of Caitlin Clark. You know,

481
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Speaker 6: she's an athlete, a basketball player obviously, but she's also

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Speaker 6: an entertainer, very much like Tiger Woods in terms of

483
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Speaker 6: those logo threes and chucking it from the parking lot

484
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Speaker 6: and it goes in and I thought, let's get behind this.

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Speaker 6: You know, I got a chance to ask her forty

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Speaker 6: to fifty questions, her mindset. You know, she's great. She's

487
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Speaker 6: just so forthcoming, loves to talk about anything, you know,

488
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Speaker 6: her all the fun atics on the court, everything about Iowa.

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Speaker 6: And of course then I was with the Fever traveling

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Speaker 6: and had some access to exclusive access to some practices too.

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Speaker 6: So it's really a story of last year and Iowa

492
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Speaker 6: and Title nine and all the girl next door all

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Speaker 6: grown up. You know, here she is America, you know,

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Speaker 6: Caitlin Clark. And that's what I tried to do with

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Speaker 6: this book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And her teammate came out, Sophie Caleham, right and

497
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Speaker 1: basically said, anybody who doesn't think she's the face of

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Speaker 1: the league ism sugaw crazy, Christine Brennan. And I don't

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Speaker 1: understand it. I really don't, And I get it. You've

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Speaker 1: been covering sports for a long time like me, and

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes when former athletes are involved and other

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Speaker 1: people have skin in the game, it's hard for them

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Speaker 1: to really want to be honest or objective about somebody

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Speaker 1: who's in there arena?

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Speaker 4: Is that the case you see here?

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Speaker 1: Because from the outside looking in as just a reporter

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Speaker 1: or a writer, a columnist or analyst, it's just obvious

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 4: And yet there's still people pushing back on her.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, the TV ratings, the attendants moving to the

511
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Speaker 6: bigger arenas, it's all for Kaitlin Clark, all of it.

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Speaker 4: She's a rich is right, does what I say?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah? And the barnstorming in college, you know, when

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Speaker 6: people were standing in line for hours in January February

515
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Speaker 6: and the cold outside of Ohio State and University of

516
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Speaker 6: Maryland and Indiana University to pack those huge arenas, you know,

517
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Speaker 6: like it's a Taylor Swift concert or Springsteen or Beyonce,

518
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Speaker 6: you know, to watch a woman play basketball. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I've never been able to say that sentence before.

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Speaker 11: And then it's carried over right to the WNBA.

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Speaker 6: You know. My favorite set in the book, among many

522
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Speaker 6: that tell the story, guys, is that for the Fever's

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Speaker 6: home average home attendants for last season, Caitlin Clark's rookie year,

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Speaker 6: so Caitlin and the Fever, the average home attendance for

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Speaker 6: the Fever was higher than the average home attendants for

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Speaker 6: five NBA teams. I mean, again, you we've never seen

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Speaker 6: anything like this in women's team sports. Usually individual athletes,

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Speaker 6: female athletes, right, Olympians, tennis players, Serena Venus, Simone Biles,

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Speaker 6: Katie Ladecki. You know, but we've never seen an athlete

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Speaker 6: come from a college team sport and just capture the

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Speaker 6: nation the way she has. And yes, there's been pushback.

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Speaker 6: I've talked to a lot of people, a lot of

533
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Speaker 6: reporting breaking news in the book, the Olympic snub, why

534
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Speaker 6: they didn't want her on the team. I broke that

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Speaker 6: story back in June of last year, and there's more

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Speaker 6: reporting about just the contradictions of oh she's not playing

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Speaker 6: well well, she was playing a lot better than Diana Trossi,

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Speaker 6: who they gave the going away present to at forty

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Speaker 6: two years old, which was just a terrible mistake at

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Speaker 6: the time, looks worse today. TV ratings were down, attendance

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Speaker 6: was down. What could have been with Caitlin Clark, and

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Speaker 6: then the same thing we see with the WNBA, where

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Speaker 6: there's just this pushback. She is the economic rocket ship

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Speaker 6: of this league. She is its financial future, very much

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Speaker 6: like Tiger with Men's Golf and Men's Golf, I covered

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Speaker 6: the length of that. I covered every bit of Tiger's

547
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Speaker 6: career within a few weeks. The golfers were like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: we get it. We want to beat them, but we

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Speaker 6: understand how important he is in the rising tie lists

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Speaker 6: all boats and the WNBA is still year two. She's

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Speaker 6: been injured, but we see those numbers plumbt you know,

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Speaker 6: fall off a cliff well, big TV ratings when she's

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Speaker 6: not there, and yet there still seems to be this

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Speaker 6: reluctance to understand the magnitude of Caitlin Clark, Christy.

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Speaker 2: Brennan, our guests. I wonder if I'm glad you said

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Speaker 2: that last part there because I wonder do you think

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Speaker 2: players are associating you can't be the face of the

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Speaker 2: league if you're not the best. The best is Asia

559
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Speaker 2: Wilson or you know, And you think that's part of

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Speaker 2: where they're saying. They're looking at it from a competitive

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Speaker 2: player standpoint, the best player. She's not even a top five, six,

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Speaker 2: seven player. Why is she the face? Do you think

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Speaker 2: that's a part of it where they can't separate kind

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Speaker 2: of the marketing, the money that's being brought in versus

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Speaker 2: the best players.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great point. And yeah sure, and she's

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Speaker 6: not She's not the best player yet and she may

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Speaker 6: never be the best player. Right, we have no idea

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Speaker 6: where this is going with her. Obviously she's terrific, but

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Speaker 6: she's the most entertaining and she's the most popular. That

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Speaker 6: is not insignificant, right, And she's an excellent player. I

572
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Speaker 6: mean she was obviously, you know, in the old WNBA

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Speaker 6: first Team for it, in the MVP voting, Rookie of

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Speaker 6: the Year, runaway Rookie of the Year, and again bringing

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Speaker 6: what is important I think for the players and the

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Speaker 6: lack of leadership. I like Kathy Engelbert, but the league

577
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Speaker 6: has failed the players time and again, that's not my voice.

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Speaker 6: That's doctor Harry Edwards, obviously great civil rights leader, grant humanitarian.

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Speaker 6: I quote him in the book. I've got Tamika catchings,

580
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Speaker 6: I've got Brianna Scurry, wonderful black voices, wonderful white voices.

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Speaker 6: I go there, guys, I go with this my reporting

582
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Speaker 6: and on her game. I really in addition to the

583
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Speaker 6: magic and the logo, threes jumping off the page, and

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Speaker 6: sports and fun and Caitlin Clark insight behind the scenes,

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Speaker 6: but I also want to deal with these issues. It's

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Speaker 6: a seventy four percent black hole.

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Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this. I want to get there, Christine.

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Speaker 4: That was my next question, and I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 4: it up.

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Speaker 1: Is it about race or because I think there's twofold

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Speaker 1: Because I do believe there's just jealousy.

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Speaker 4: And we saw this in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Bring it up all the time when players were given

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Speaker 1: a chance to vote for the All Star Game. Christine,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty didn't vote for Lebron and one

596
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five didn't vote for KD.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So there's a degree of jealousy. But is there racism,

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Speaker 1: racism as well when it comes to Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 6: There is no way you can take race out of

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Speaker 6: this story for sure. And you know it said against

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Speaker 6: last You know this is I followed the book ends

603
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 6: in April. We got it very very quickly. But you know,

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Speaker 6: it's as fresh as.

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Speaker 3: Can be, as a book can be.

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Speaker 6: But it's about last season, of course, and it's set

607
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Speaker 6: against you know, the backdrop of a political presidential campaign

608
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Speaker 6: and a very polarized country. But at seventy four percent,

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Speaker 6: Black League never got the attention it deserves from the

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Speaker 6: mainstream sports media. We can all agree on that. You know,

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Speaker 6: I wish that it happened to Maya more right of course,

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Speaker 6: young Kaitlyn Clark's favorite player. I wish it would happened

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Speaker 6: for Candice Parker, Chryl Swoops. You know that they would

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Speaker 6: be household names, that they would be being discussed in

615
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Speaker 6: the produce section of the way that Caitlin Clark is.

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Speaker 6: But it didn't happen for them, and it's happening now.

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Speaker 6: And one point that I make, and I've got again

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Speaker 6: a lot of reporting on this and talking to other people,

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Speaker 6: that the spotlight now shining on Caitlin Clark also shines

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Speaker 6: on all the players who deserved it, never got it,

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Speaker 6: but now we're getting it. You see it in the

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Speaker 6: All Star voting, right, Asia Wilson arguably, and we can say,

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Speaker 6: I think we agree the best player in the league

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Speaker 6: certainly over the last few years. And if you said

625
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Speaker 6: Colliers having a terrific season with Minnesota. We'll see how

626
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 6: that all plays out moving forward. But Asia Wilson didn't

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Speaker 6: get one hundred thousand votes two years ago for the

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Speaker 6: All Star voting. Now she's approaching a million votes. The

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Speaker 6: rising tide lifts all boats. Right, people are watching Kitlin Clark.

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Speaker 6: They're appreciating Asia Wilson for the first time. They should

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Speaker 6: have appreciated her before. I mean some did. But the

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Speaker 6: mass interest the fever are like a men's major league

633
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 6: team now in terms of social media interests, attendance ratings, everything.

634
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Speaker 6: That's the attention they're getting to me. You have those

635
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 6: eyeballs now they're seeing the players that they were missing

636
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 6: all those years. A mass audience interest in women's team

637
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Speaker 6: sports has never happened before, and it's happening because of

638
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Speaker 6: Caitlyn Clark. But yes, race certainly plays a role in

639
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 6: the WNBA's lack of having conversations about this meeting the moment.

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Speaker 6: That's doctor Harry Edwards, the great, great civil rights leader, advocate,

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Speaker 6: super smart man, a good friend. He's saying those words

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00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 6: about what should have been done last year. Not because

643
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: the players are damsels in distress, of course they're not.

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00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 6: They're great athletes and they're college graduates, but because nothing

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00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 6: like this had ever happened to any women's league, or

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00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: really the magnitude of any league period where you could

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Speaker 6: have one person bring it from so far down and

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Speaker 6: bring it up to qualifying as a major league sport.

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Speaker 6: And that's Caitlin Clark. And that's the storyline that again,

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Speaker 6: the WNBA, the void that was there, the vacuum because

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Speaker 6: the leadership of the WNBA and the NBA didn't see

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Speaker 6: that the moment was going to be this, the magnitude

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Speaker 6: of this moment, and also so fraught in our polarized society.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, hey, the new book on her game,

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Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark in The Revolution of Women's Courts, available for

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Speaker 2: purchase now. Congrats on the book, and Christy Brennan, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for model talks.

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Speaker 4: Yes, good luck, thank you, guys.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much, Rob Calvin, take care, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Hey. Shop talk on the way It is the A

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Speaker 2: couple Robin Kelvin on the TV themes on Thursday, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 3: listen live Fox Sports Radio. That's right.

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Speaker 2: The TV themes on Thursdays for your boys Day Couple,

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Speaker 2: Rob Parker Kelvin Washington. It is Miracle Treat Day as

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Speaker 2: well at DQ, which means one dollar or more from

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Speaker 2: every Blizzard treat is donated to your local member hospital

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Speaker 2: of Children's Miracle Network Hospitals. Blizzard treats are even sweeter

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Speaker 2: when they support kids DQ. Happy taste good? All right, Rob,

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Speaker 2: It is time now for shop Talk. Ain't nobody's sniping

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Speaker 2: to bump shop? You know that? Ain't nobody is you

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Speaker 2: talking about whoever whatever whatever you want to in a box?

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Speaker 6: Wait? You know?

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Speaker 3: Wait? Shop talk?

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Speaker 4: That's right?

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Speaker 5: Is shop talk a second where we talk about something

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Speaker 5: happened outside of the world of sports. This week's topic

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Speaker 5: comes to us from Southern Connecticut State University.

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Speaker 4: We got a big deal going on. Everybody golf clap

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Speaker 4: it up.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna name the Just Downfield press Box after the

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Speaker 5: one the only MLB bro himself, Rob Parker Parker Saturday,

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Speaker 5: October fourth, two pm. They're gonna rename it the Rob

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Speaker 5: Parker Press Box. First, Rob, your thoughts on this grand honor?

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Speaker 1: Definitely, Rob G Humble. And when this all came down,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I thought about was me and my

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Speaker 1: mom because we took the greyhound bus Kelvin up to

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Speaker 1: southern Connecticut for like the journalism orientation and whatnot. And

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Speaker 1: you're on that bus and you don't know, you don't

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Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. You know, my mom wanted me

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Speaker 1: to take computer science, not because she didn't believe in me,

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Speaker 1: because she was doing what most parents Kelvin right, the

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Speaker 1: logical thing back in the eighties early eighties, computers are

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Speaker 1: gonna be big. You know, they weren't a lot of

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Speaker 1: black sports writers and whatnot, so that she was saying

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Speaker 1: what was logical at that point to her. But once

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Speaker 1: I made it clear that this is the career path

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Speaker 1: I wanted, she was all the way in. And I

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Speaker 1: remember taking that bus ride and thinking you know, is

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Speaker 1: this going to turn into a career? Am I going

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Speaker 1: to have enough money to finish paying for college? You

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Speaker 1: know all these question marks, and then here we are

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Speaker 1: and in October, this building that I used to cover

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Speaker 1: my first game in and college is now going to

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Speaker 1: have my name on it outside and inside with a plaque.

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Speaker 1: And I think it serves as an example of what

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Speaker 1: you could do when you follow your dreams and your passion.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that is just hard to come

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Speaker 1: to terms with is the idea that it's forever. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, that something's going to be there

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Speaker 1: and people many years from now, either a students at

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Speaker 1: Southern Connecticut State University of new Haven or kids who

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Speaker 1: live in New Haven could look up and see that

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Speaker 1: and go Rob Parker and maybe google it and figure

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Speaker 1: out who is that. So I'm humble by it, I'm honored,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I've always I'm thrilled. I've been a

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Speaker 1: part of Southern Connecticut for a long time. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not a Johnny Come lately. I started a scholarship back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four years out of college, so I've

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Speaker 1: been involved in this university for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to right, no big shots you congrats.

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Speaker 4: We'd love to see it said it before.

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Speaker 2: Man. That's you know, it's great to get flowers when

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Speaker 2: you can not then when people are dead or going

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Speaker 2: through it. It's great to get it now to be

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Speaker 2: able to enjoy me or smell on me, enjoy it

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Speaker 2: with your family. That moment coming up in October. So

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Speaker 2: that's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's been a great ride for you. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's awesome that they're honoring you. And I think it's,

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Speaker 2: you know, great that you again you'll have this moment

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Speaker 2: that people can look at and you don't cherish man.

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Speaker 2: So congrats to you, brother, well deserved for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it got me thinking of Rob. This is

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Speaker 5: a long list of accomogiments you have. Now you have

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Speaker 5: a whole Wikipedia page of things that you've done and

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Speaker 5: been celebrated for. But it got me thinking, God for

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Speaker 5: everyone else on the show, Rob, you'll go last because.

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Speaker 4: You have too many.

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Speaker 5: Yes, what is the single most proud moment of your

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Speaker 5: professional career? Because I got to imagine licensed ranking pretty

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Speaker 5: high for you, Robs, You'll go last, double start with you.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's tough, bro, I'll say that Okay, there's so many,

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Speaker 2: but one more recent that's kind of a thing is

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Speaker 2: and I think Rob will be able to relate to this.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it being able to bounce back when

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Speaker 2: you were down and you know, I was at the

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Speaker 2: other place and you know, moved on from me, and

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Speaker 2: you're like, all right, what we're gonna do. How A

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Speaker 2: were gonna bounce back? And I was able to bounce

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Speaker 2: back better, stronger in all facets, you know, in all

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Speaker 2: facets that you can think of, in the situation I'm

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Speaker 2: in now. So to me, it was getting that first

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Speaker 2: real bump in the role where you're like, dang, I

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Speaker 2: was just coming up, just making the name, just finally

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Speaker 2: making a couple of dollars, and you got, you know,

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Speaker 2: kicked to the curb, if you will, and and able

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Speaker 2: to bounce back and out, you know, a handful of

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Speaker 2: years later and being in a much better position.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 2: That for me personally, was was great, A cool, funny one,

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Speaker 2: I'll say real quick, having somebody you look up to

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Speaker 2: that you think great and they find out they're a

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Speaker 2: fan of yours. Subconsciously, I always wanted to do something

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Speaker 2: like our City on Hall and having him be already up.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: I watch you every day man, you know, and telling

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Speaker 2: you you kind of got it. Somebody you were like

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Speaker 2: that inspired you, that that was awesome. Man.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to everybody really quickly. Martin Weiss.

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Speaker 1: When Scott Shapiro kept asking me what I was doing

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night, and I said, Scott, this is getting weird.

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Speaker 2: And then he said, no, you know what, I want

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Speaker 2: to give you a show Saturday night.

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Speaker 4: Because he kept asking me.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, I'm doing you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of busy, you know, Saturday Night had plans and

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Speaker 1: I have to cancel the plan. So after a while,

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Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, are you gonna ask me when

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Speaker 1: I'm doing this Saturday on a Monday?

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Speaker 4: And he's like, actually, what are you doing? Like for

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Speaker 4: the rest Saturday at ubstensibly and he was like, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to give you a show.

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Speaker 1: Here you go, There you go, Rob Ge Alex, let's

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Speaker 1: go to Alex Alex.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if this is really my comics people,

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Speaker 5: but I'm gonnaim it.

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Speaker 4: Anyways.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so when we first launched the Odd Couple six

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Speaker 5: years ago, now, one of our internal goals was, hey,

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Speaker 5: we got to pass Doug Gottlieb on the downloads. Yes,

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Speaker 5: we said we got six months to pass it. I

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Speaker 5: think we ducked it out like in two and a half.

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Speaker 5: And because unlike other shows I produced, I do have

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Speaker 5: some input on this one. There's my fingerprints if you

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Speaker 5: look at the rundown are on it. So I felt

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Speaker 5: like that was my own personal accomplisment, like, hey, we

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Speaker 5: had big goals and I don't need to we get him.

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Speaker 5: We got them really quickly, no doubt about it, Rob G.

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Speaker 5: You know that that is definitely the case, Alex quickly.

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Speaker 7: So my two, I guess the sports one is working

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Speaker 7: on one of the biggest national sports shows, The Herd

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Speaker 7: Colin Cowherd, and I don't even like sports, so that's

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Speaker 7: pretty cool. Oh that's dope. And then the other one,

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Speaker 7: real quick is anime. I literally had two years with

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Speaker 7: my friend went nowhere we started, got three hundred thousand followers,

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Speaker 7: was seeing anime conventions and it just shows, like like

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Speaker 7: you said, rom, if you commit to something, it'll commit

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Speaker 7: to you.

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Speaker 4: And for me, you know, there's two.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously this is the biggest, as I said

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Speaker 1: to you before, because it's forever and The other one was,

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Speaker 1: of course, being the first black sports columnist at the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Free Press because the paper was one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty one years old when they hired me. That's crazy, amazing,