WEBVTT - Bloomberg Law Brief: Court Ruling on iPhone (Audio)

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now is time for our daily Bloomberg Law Brief,

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<v Speaker 1>exploring legal issues in the news. It's brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>by American Arbitration Association, International Trade or Business Dispute Resolve

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<v Speaker 1>Faster with the International Center for a Dispute Resolution, the

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<v Speaker 1>d R dot org. Today Bloomberg, Laho, Student Grosso and

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Best discuss a recent court ruling affecting the ability

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<v Speaker 1>of law enforcement to compel someone to use a fingerprint

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<v Speaker 1>to unlock their phone. They speak with Robert Mints, a partner,

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<v Speaker 1>and McCarter and English Bob under what circumstances is it

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<v Speaker 1>clear that the government can get a warrant to force

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<v Speaker 1>someone to unlock an iPhone with a fingerprint. Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>issue has come before the courts before, and the courts

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<v Speaker 1>have held where there is a very specified need for

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<v Speaker 1>that information and the government has made out clear probable

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<v Speaker 1>cause um connecting the individual with the information that may

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<v Speaker 1>be on their cell phone. Prosecutors can in some instances

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<v Speaker 1>force an individual to unlock a cell phone, but in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, the court found that there was insufficient evidence

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<v Speaker 1>based on the warrant that was presented to the magistrate

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<v Speaker 1>judge to require individuals who just happened to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the premises to use their sums to unlock their cell phones,

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<v Speaker 1>and the court relied both on Fourth Amendment and on

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<v Speaker 1>syste Amendment grounds in denying that request. You know, Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems a little strange on some level to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Fourth Amendment rights of people when we

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know if they're going to be there, and

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<v Speaker 1>their Fifth Moment rights we don't know who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there. Is Is it normal in a warrant application

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<v Speaker 1>for the government to ask about the methods by which

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to search people they might find at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the location. Well, that is unusual, Michael. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>usually what a warrant does is it establishes probable cause

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<v Speaker 1>that a crime has been committed and that evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>that crime is located at a particular premises. So, in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, it is based entirely on the premises and

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<v Speaker 1>not on a person. In this case, this warrant application

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<v Speaker 1>and the judge's opinion got into issues of acts of

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<v Speaker 1>production and conduct by individuals who, as you mentioned, may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not even be at the premises at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that the search is executed and as Robert mensa

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<v Speaker 1>partner at McCarter in English speaking at Bloomberg Laho student

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