WEBVTT - The First Days of the Spanish Civil War 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.799 Hello, this is it could happen here? Oh boy? Yeah, 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:12.600 we can't rob it into being here for Civil War 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:17.120 Week no less. We're also joined by special guest Margaret 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.560 Killjoy uh and Sophi and get who are less special 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:25.400 were whole week. Yeah, that's we're here to start a 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.960 civil war, right, that's what I've read and read start 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:33.640 a civil war, Sophie. We we cleared that. We cleared 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:38.480 that with corporate right. Yeah, I officially backing the start 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:44.120 of a of a civil war. Yeah, essentially corporated you know, 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.959 go go go ahead, cool zone media, start a civil war, 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.280 start a civil war? Do we be civilly and criminally 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.320 liable for all violence that occurred? That's the I Heart 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.440 Radio guarantee. Yeah, and we've been listed the people on 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:01.080 this call who are Margaret kill Dry Heavens, Garrison Davis, 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.160 James Stout, and myself, Sophie. They are also all civil 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:10.480 and criminally liable. But do we get to collectivize a 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.800 huge maybe, like or so of all the industry obviously, 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:19.759 I mean some of us do. Okay, Okay, what it's 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.440 like any civil war. You're gonna find out who later, Okay, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.480 We're going to find out who today, Robert, this is 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:29.920 my death guy into how to beat a coup, start 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:34.479 a civil war and win the first part of it. Well, 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.760 that's the only part of it you really need to win. Yeah, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.480 it is. You don't want to get too bugged down 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.360 in the latest staff because it's just depressing. So we 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.720 we just want to focus on how to win the 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.560 first four year hours and from there you can taper it. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.000 Take a week, take the weekend off, yeah, break off, 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.440 chill out, yeah fine, or just go down as a 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.840 hero and let everyone else sort everything else out afterwards. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.200 And that's pretty the best option that's going to learn 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.680 about a guy who dies within twenty four hours at 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.480 the wars starting as a hero and gets a gun 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.520 named after him, which is all we can really want 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.840 for ourselves. Ah, that does sound like the dream. Yeah, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.200 that's that's a that's the way Robert Evans needed to go, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:14.359 not suggesting that anytime soon, of course. All right, I'm 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.320 sure to imagine would it be the Robert or would 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.880 it be there, Yeah, Robert, just give him a good 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.600 old bobbin. It would be named after my nick name, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:32.600 my nickname, the Jesus Christ of podcasting, right, Sophie now. Yeah, no, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.639 Sophie says, yes. If there's not already a gun named 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.080 after Jesus, I will be shocked. Yeah, it's probably not 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.480 a kind of company you want to. We've we've really 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.280 gotten off, and I think, in all fairness, it's not 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.400 my fault. I think it's Garrison's fault. Yeah, that's who 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.840 I was going to blame. I think we've all agreed 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.920 on that. What are we talking about, Jim talking about 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.560 the Spanish Civil War today will be be desecrating the 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.280 name of Jesus Christ a little bit later as well. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:05.239 So desecrating the name of Jesus Christ, i'd gathered, Yeah, 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.440 we'll do. That's just some more for you today. I'll 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.720 send you some pictures afterwards that you will enjoy. All Right, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.480 So we're talking about the Spanish Civil War. We're not 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.760 talking about all of it, because that's a lot, and 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.120 because I think it's important when we talk about the 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.640 Spanish Civil War to talk about like the moments when 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.200 revolutionary things happened, because they are as important as the 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.480 moments when terrible things happened and the moments when the 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.320 people in arms defeated the coup, because that's both instructive 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.640 and inspiring and interesting. Well, they have a question, Yeah, 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.560 what's the Spanish Civil War? That's a great question, and 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.120 when I've failed to address thus far. It is a 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.839 war that happened in Spain. It wasn't very civil, so 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:52.120 only two three remarkably uncivil. Actually, so we're looking at 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:57.000 nineteen thirty six today, we're looking at July twentieth ninety six. Right, 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.280 But you can see it as like the precursor to 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.920 the Second World War. You have people who are fascist 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.320 or fascist, a jacent you have people who are explicitly 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:10.400 anti fascist, and they are killing each other from nineteen 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:16.760 thirty nine, and the anti fascists win, right, not entirely, unfortunately, Yeah, 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.960 that they have some wins along the way, you know. Yeah, 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.320 there's some moments, the friends that you meet along the way. Yeah, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.120 what is civil war if not the friends that you 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.599 make along the way. Don't answer that at home because 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.240 it's sad. But yeah, these these are some friendly times, 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.920 These are some good times. These are the first forty 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.800 year hours of the Spanish Civil War. We're going to 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.880 start with an anecdote about the popular Olympics, which you 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.560 probably have never heard of unless you're me because it's 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.039 a it's a thing that I've written about ship Ton, 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:51.040 but not many folks have read about. It's the anti Olympics. 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.200 It's the best way to understand the popular Olympics. It 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.200 was a gathering held in nineteen thirty six in Barcelona 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.160 in opposition to the Berlin Olympics. So the Olympics are 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:04.120 given to uh Weimar Germany, right, they're not given to 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:09.240 Nazi Germany. But when Germany, yeahsmar Germany is the pre 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:13.040 Nazi it's before Hitler takes power. Yeah, when they were 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.760 actually pretty cool in some ways. It's pretty pretty progressive 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.160 for the time period, right in lots of ways. And 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.520 it's woke Germans. Yes, it is the work Germans. It's 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.279 it's like if if if AOC was running nineteen thirties Germany, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.600 that's what you get. I bet they had a whole 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.080 institute that trans people got to hang out at and 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.040 learn about themselves. I've heard that, Yeah, what happened to 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:41.400 the institute? I can't remember. The Nazis game and killed 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:46.200 the first woman to medically transition in the Western Hemisphere 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.400 and burned all of the books and then stole the 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.800 records that the people had been keeping about all the 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.559 gay people and then rounded up all the gay people 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.080 and murdered them in camps. That's that's what happened. Well, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.440 it's disappointing. Well, good thing. That will good thing, that 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.640 will never happen again. Anyway, we've learned our lesson. Yeah, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.600 there's absolutely no echoes of that in current political discourse. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:11.520 So that's fine. Hey, let's learn how to kill fascists. Yeah, 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.599 buck them. Okay, So we're talking about the popul Olympics, 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.159 the anti for Olympics, the Olympics that happened because the 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.920 Nazis are ship and you shouldn't play games with ship 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:26.080 people to include the Olympics, even if you very much 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.680 want to win a medal. Uh take note, athletes doing 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.320 sports and dictatorships, and so a lot of people, about 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.080 twenty people instead decided to go to Barcelona where they're 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.960 going to host this alternative games. And the sebtext of 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.560 the popular Olympics it's not just that like shouldn't have 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.839 the Olympics, it's that gasp shouldn't exist, and the anti 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:54.040 fascism is strong and youthful and perfectly capable of fighting 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.559 a war and killing the fascists right. That that's sport 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.000 Georgia Will called sport war without the shooting, right, Uh, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.920 this is a war with the shooting. It's a good quote. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.120 George Orwell pops up a few times in this One's 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.800 not always right. Bad everything that he was read about 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.240 that we passed up at the wrong time. It's never 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.280 mind trying to make a George or Will gets shut 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.960 shut in the throat. Now I just feel bad about 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:23.440 it because at least that's the least. I mean, before podcasting, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.560 the throat was the best place to get shot as 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.840 a writer. That's true, that's true. Yeah, it didn't go 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.480 well for him in the end. It sort of did 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.280 end his life prematurely, I guess. But he got some 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.440 bangers out in terms of books. First. Yeah, it can't 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.680 fault him. Alright. So we're talking about pot Olympics, talking 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.800 about the night before the Popular Olympics. You're gonna learn 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.920 why you haven't heard of the Popular Olympics. So I 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:51.880 guess keep listening, Okay. Eighty six years ago in Barcelona, Paucas, 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.480 the father of modern cello, was leading the final rehearsals 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.240 for the opening ceremony of the Popular Olympics. They had 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.160 already practiced him. Of the popular picks was a song 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.880 co written by a Catalan composer and an exiled Jewish 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.239 one who had fled oppression in Germany. Now they moved 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.600 to beethoven Tonight's symphony. You might know it as you 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:14.040 know too. Joy Cassals recounted what happened next in his memoirs. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.720 I just called the chorus on stage to sing the korral. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.560 When a man rushed into the hall. He handed me 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.840 an envelope, saying, breathlessly, this is from Minister Gasol. An 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:29.040 uprising is expected in the city at any moment. I 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.480 read Gasol's message. It said our rehearsal should be discontinued 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.400 immediately or the musicians should go straight home, and that 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.000 the concert schedule for the following day had been canceled. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.000 The messenger told me that since the message was written, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.000 an insurrection had started in Madrid and fascist troops were 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.280 now marching on Barcelona. I read the message aloud to 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.400 the orchestra and to the chorus, and then I said, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.360 dear friends, I do not know when we shall meet again. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.600 As a farewell to one another, shall we play the finale? 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.200 And they shouted yes. Let us finish it. Then the 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:04.080 orchestra play and the chorus sang that's never before I 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.880 could not see the notes because of my tears. So 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.280 that's how Powker South starts to civil war. They finished 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.000 that concert in sixteen. Incidentally, they came back to the 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.720 same place, and yeah, it was very the same people. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.680 Uh no, no, well the same institutions. Right, these are 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.600 called or fails, Like I guess popular chorus is popular 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:31.040 kind of city orchestra kind of thing. So they finished 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:36.600 it in the same place because in the intervening eight 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.240 years there was a little issue with the Frank I dictatorship, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:46.160 which there still is in Spain incidentally, But yeah, Barstilona 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.640 has very much reclaimed its memory as an anti fascial 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:53.040 city following the dictatorship. I could really, I can really 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.680 see myself in those musicians, you know, like it just 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:01.520 feels like a very possible thing. Unfortunately, to just be like, okay, 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.079 well we're going to do this thing and then well, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:09.199 I guess I don't know, should we finish? Like yeah, yeah, right, 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:13.400 like at some point maybe not, like like all of 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.680 us were doing something else when we learned that a 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.880 bunch of Chud's had stormed Congress, right, and that the 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:25.240 the yak hatman was inside the Senate chamber. Um like 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.840 like it and some of us going. I was on 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.920 a bike ride. I kept riding my bike like there's 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.760 not there's not much I can do. Uh. Sometimes you 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.520 have to take the moments of joy because there might 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:39.719 be much joy available for the next little while. So yeah, 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.439 I think it's easy to see myself and a lot 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.720 of this stuff. Perhaps that's why I'm drawn to it 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.520 all right. The following morning, the city woke up before 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.160 dawn to the sound of gunfire. To most of the 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:55.000 Catalan working classes wasn't surprised. The cured begun two days 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.080 earlier in Morocco, and word traveled quickly among the anarchists. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:00.959 By the time the men of the Fourth Division and 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.560 the General Fernandez Bodiel began their march to the central 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.120 Plataa Catalunia, the people of the Popular Front were ready. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.880 The uprising had begun in Morocco on the seventeen an 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.080 all day tension a bit building Union radio had called 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.920 a general strike, and despite the refusal of the Republican 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.400 government to acknowledge how deep of trouble they are in 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.480 their union to render no allusion as to the stakes. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.120 By entertime on the nineteen Spain had gone through three 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.880 prime ministers since breakfast, and Barcelona had defeated the coup. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.439 So what happens to the other prime ministers, Like, okay, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.240 you be prime minister and you're like, oh, funk, No, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.720 I don't want to be prime minister. Or are they 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.040 getting killed by the fascists or no, no, Madrid is 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.520 is very it's not very safe. It's safe. They basically 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.320 your first guy. It's like, I've done funked up here. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.440 I should have seen this one, counting given that I 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.480 was explicitly warned about it for weeks. He's like, peace, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.560 I'm out. Second guy, Popsy and he's like, don't worry, guys, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.920 we can fix this. We need to do is call 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:07.680 the call the General's talk it out. It's interesting, yeah, 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.400 give them just so, just like a reason with them. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.400 And it's interesting because what happens is in that conversation 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.839 it's the fascist general. I think it's capable. The young know. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.800 He calls I can't remember good d maybe maybe good head. Anyway, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.160 it says like you have your people and I have mine, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.480 and in that moment, what's happening is a fascist general 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.280 who is leading a coup is reminding an elected politician 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.200 that he has an obligation to serve the people who 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.000 elected him and and not just to make like unilateral 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:44.680 compromises with fascists, right, So that the what a country 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.199 at a time at that moment that second prime ministers 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.640 also doomed. Right. So then we move on to number three. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.199 And at that point we opened up the armories to 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.320 the working class, right, which is what they should have 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.960 done earlier. In in every city where the working class 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.920 US is armed, the coup is defeated. In every city 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.959 where it's not armed, the coup succeeds. And that doesn't 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.320 have any ramifications for today, So keep going. No, absolutely none, 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.320 um know. And it's something that we can't learn from, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:18.200 so we shouldn't We shouldn't try, um And obviously it's 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.640 some direct parallel. There are some really interesting moments in 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.960 this particular arming of the working class. One that I 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.440 to come back to is that the there are the soldiers, right. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.760 It's obviously the weapons are in the hands of the military, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.160 and obviously the military has just done a coup, but 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.040 not all the military has just done a coup. So 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.000 you have some generals or colonels who are in charge 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:43.079 of barracks, um, who are armories, and they will be like, yeah, okay, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.920 I've got the order. That's what I'm going to do. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.640 I think it's coup is kind of bullshit, like it 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.080 hasn't succeeded yet, it might not succeed. Here are the 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.520 rifles union members. But in Madrid you have another colonel 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.280 who's a die hard cou coup guy, big, big coup 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.000 person who is in control of the bolts are the rifles. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.840 So like, the rifle doesn't work without the bolt, right. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.360 The bolt is a bit like plugs a hole and 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.760 makes the bullet go bang. I've explained that properly, right, Robert. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.120 That's a that's a technical terminology. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.840 it's just the piece that makes the gun go bang. Yeah. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.080 So the about critical to the functing the rifle held 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.760 by another guy who turns out to be a fashion 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.280 and so he doesn't issue them the bolts. So you 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.960 have all these working class militiamen being like, how rifle 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:32.560 worked with no bolt? Just like entering the streets anyway, right, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.680 slapping on the bayonet. Now you have a pike. You 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.440 have other people who have never operated a rifle before. 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.800 So like allegedly everyone's calling the Socialist Union headquarters in 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.360 Madrid being do this, do that, and they're like, I 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.640 can't hear ship. There's just hundreds of people behind me 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.200 trying to operate the bolt on, the bolt action rifle, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.880 trying to learn how to do this, and like they're 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.480 taking their newsprint from their union newspaper, right and trying 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.320 to wipe the cosmoline off the rifles because they've been 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.880 in like deep storage. It's very evocative scene, like you 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.120 could smell it, you can hear it of these people 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.880 being like, well, we never used these before. They've been 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.000 a deep storage for a long time. They're covered in grease, 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.000 but fuck it, like it's now or never. Yeah, And 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.880 it was right. So if we go back to what 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.200 happened in Barcelona, they had radios in public places, right, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.440 it's very common whole books about how Nazis use radios, 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.000 but it's common in the thirties parts of the city. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.920 The paving stones had barely been relayed from October fighting. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.200 Then they were quickly pulled up again. Barricades were constructed 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.600 old rifles and pistols, and the bombs that the anarchists 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.960 particularly love were dragged out of the bottom of drawers. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:50.000 These people fucking love throwing bombs, like the just the Yeah, 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.800 there there's a there's a lady later on in the 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.440 world called rosal Ladina Mitra like Rows of the Dynamiter 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.600 who who just like it, becomes the legend right for 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:03.200 just throwing dynamite fascists. She us. Yeah, like, there's so 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.800 much awesome ship that happens, that gets lost because ultimately, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.240 like Hitler and Mustelini win the Spanish Civil War basically, 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.680 right spoiler. Yeah, So, actually, that night before the before 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.000 the troops march on the city, the u g T 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.240 the socialist control the dock union, the dock workers union, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.280 and they're like, hey, hang on, I'm pretty sure there's 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.120 a ship in the harbor that has dynamite on it. 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.880 Let's raid it. So they raid the ship, Okay, steal 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.200 the dynamite and drive through the city, distributing it to 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:38.680 union members who spend the entire night making bonds. I'm 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.320 sure that went badly for several of them, but yeah, 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.440 it went badly, so fascist too, but well, yeah, almost undoubtedly. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.920 Like Robert and I have talked to some people in 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:53.280 some other contexts who have made homemade bonds and don't smoke. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.200 It is what I will say, do not smoke if 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.920 you're in the process of making bombs, are explosives whatever. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.680 That's the same people say that you can't smoke wire 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.560 fueling up your car. Yeah, cowards, Yeah, go down like 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:10.160 a chat. Yeah, that's my message to you. The other 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.040 thing they did was they put on like their mono, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.080 so like a mono is like a like a onesie, right, 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.479 like an overall blue mono was kind of the militia 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.000 uniform because they weren't an army. They were just working 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.760 class people who worked at factories who are not taking 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.920 any ship from the army that day, and they put 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.840 on their little union hats, which you can see in 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.880 all the photos. They look very cool, very quaint. Um. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.080 So to understand why the conflict they fought that day began, 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.760 it's probably beyond the scope of this podcast, and to 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.320 understand where ended the way it did will infuriate just 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.800 about everyone listening, which is fine, but we don't have 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.960 all day. Okay, If you want to know more about 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.920 some of the People Involved killeds podcast on his Banic 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.720 Anarchist is a great place to start. What. Yeah that 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.520 it was wonderful to check that out. Yeah I do. Yeah, 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.639 great podcast, great, I love it. If you listened to 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:06.480 look at that, Yeah, yep, you should like and subscribe. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:11.720 Is that? Is that still the thing? Cool people who 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:17.480 did stuff? Yeah? I think I've heard of that. Yeah. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:22.080 The host is brilliant. Yeah, she's amazing. I'm trying to 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:27.800 make the clever, but instead I'm probably blushing. You deserve 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.680 Oh okay, Yeah, if you want to read some books, 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.520 I'm going to list some books at the end, probably 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:36.760 far too many because this is my ship. But I 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.960 think there was more books written about the Spanish Civil 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.000 War than um, I guess war in general. But I 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.280 think anarchists have written more about the Spanish Civil War, 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:50.000 though maybe undoubtedly anything else combined. Yeah. The device we 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.800 are speaking on is currently propped up on a large 0:18:53.800 --> 0:19:02.920 stack of them, actually most of my material possessions. It's yeah, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.040 it's nice. It's the way your life should be. It's 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:11.120 I've written one to uh and it's heinously expensive, but 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.600 you know, I'm happy with it. If if you struggle 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.600 to obtain it materially. Please just shoot me a direct message, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.679 unless you kind of have some kind of gross disagreement 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.680 because you're fascist or something, in which case please don't bother. 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.960 And Okay, I don't know how you got this far. 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:34.160 If you are a fascist, I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:39.119 I probably have some uh funk off Nazis. I guess. 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.000 I think I think fewer people hate listen. I okay, 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:43.680 my theory. I know that we wanted to hear my 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:49.560 theory about why podcasting, um is because it's harder. People 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.640 don't have the attention span to hate listen the same 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.600 way that they can like hate skim or like hate 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:58.120 read tweets and reply. And so I've made a lot 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.160 of different media in a lot of different ways over 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.879 the past couple of decades, and I get less hate 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:10.640 mail about podcasts than most other forms. Um So, that's 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:15.119 my theory is that people podcast because no one wants 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.119 to sit there and like hate listen. I mean people 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.040 like hate listening to clips. That's why we all listen 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.000 to those like clip shows where they take the right 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:25.280 wing person and you know, yeah, show them saying something 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.959 that we all I think it's not an intelligent thing 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.359 to say and then we laugh or whatever. But so anyway, 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.399 if you're the person who has been put on this 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:37.000 earth to hate, listen to it could happen here in 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:41.800 order to I don't know, um, make fun of it 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:46.520 to your audience. Um, thanks for the listens. I guess 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.680 I don't know. Yeah, I'm weak getting that that sweet revenue. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:55.760 I know, where does that revenue come from? It just appears. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.560 It's like like liking it grows on the side of 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:03.159 a wet bill. Being it doesn't come from ads. I 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.280 think ads do. Organic could grow a lot, a lot 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.359 like like and they just start showing up um and 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:13.080 replicating we really have no choice. But yeah, anyway, yeah, 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.360 it's a fact of nature. If you have that person, 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:19.359 I would say that my messages stop being a Nazi. Uh, 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:31.720 that's that's me being polite. On the night of the eighteen, 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.520 some assault guards, members of elite paramilitary police force it 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.400 was founded by and sometimes mostly loyal to the Republic, 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.040 went against the order their officers has sneaked rifles out 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.399 to members of the c NT an anarchist union. And 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:50.240 that's pretty uh, that's pretty based. It's the one day, 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.760 as you will learn this is the one day all 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.080 cops took off from being bastards. Some of them, it 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.320 turns out, are capable of doing the right thing, or 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:02.560 were in I should say, yeah, of corps were handing 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:06.800 out rifles to anarchist. That would be not a parallel 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:11.200 that I can easily imagine in the modern context. Yes, yeah, yeah, 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.520 somewhat unique. Right. It doesn't mean that these people had 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.560 not spent the past decades killing each other. It does 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.800 not mean that they would not return to doing so 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:23.080 within less than a year. But just for a day, 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:29.600 everything was hunky dorry And it's leftist Christmas. Yes, this 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.120 pretty yeah, this more or less is leftist Christmas, like 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.440 because there's even like there's gifts. They call them proletarian 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:41.240 shopping trips um. But what they do is requisition merchandise 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:45.600 from stores and uh and distributed to people who need it. 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.240 Are you just are you referring to armed robbery? Is 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:52.200 that that's different thing? That was only armed robbery. If 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:58.080 somebody tries to fight back shopping with a gun, that's it. 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.880 And what if there is no law, is it really 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.720 a crime? M hm M. I don't know. No one, 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.399 No one can say. I will say that they only 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.240 it seems like they only robbed the shopkeepers who were turds, 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.560 people who like lent a lot of money at a 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.000 very high interest rate, things like that in these predetorian 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:22.480 shopping trips, which I'm not being against what happened. I'm 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:27.840 just I'm stripping away some of the nicelies. Yeah, if 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.440 people hadn't gathered, they weren't picking up when I was 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:32.439 putting down. Yes, it is going into a shop with 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.560 guns and taking things and giving them to people who 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:38.040 need them. Whether or not that's bad. Who can say, 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:44.800 Robin famous villain in history. Yeah that's right, Yeah, bad 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.000 bad dude. Sheriff of Nottingham, on the other hand, would 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:53.040 have been big into crypto, I'm sure, all around legend. 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:55.960 So when I said if there is no law, I 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:59.960 wasn't really joking. Like at this point, Luis compounds who's 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.760 Catalan leader. He's a liberal leftist politician and earlier that 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.760 evening he'd refused to open the armories. He realizes that 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.040 things are out of his control, and so he sets 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.919 off for a walk and he walks down the Rambler. Right, 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.040 if you've been to Barcelona, it's his big old street 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.679 now it's full of the kind of restaurants to have 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.719 photographs on their menus so that German people can understand 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.560 what they're going to eat. UM, which is much of 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:28.000 Barcelona and American people. But yeah, people who don't speak 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.160 Catalan or Spanish who go to Barcelona can eat very 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.200 well there for lots of money. If you've been on 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.280 hol Day, you've probably been there. I did not eat 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:39.520 very well in Barcelona. Really. I had almost no money 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:43.480 and was vegan, and my Spanish and my Cotys non existent, 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:48.120 so I mostly were hang out and cooked pasta. There 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.240 are not a lot of cities I've been to where 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.639 it's harder to eat vegan than Barcelona. That is, that 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:59.120 is a challenge. Maybe Belgrade, where then where the national 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:04.760 dishes thirty pounds of meat on a plate. Yeah, Sophia 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.760 knows Sophia, so I can't remember I pronounced the name 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.680 of the capital of Bulgaria. Um also a hard place 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.800 to eat vegan. That was hard for me. Yeah, that 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:17.840 does not surprise me. Yea, yeah, surprise me. It's a 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.960 big part of the cattle in cuisine. You'll be like, oh, yeah, 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.080 I'm having some lentils, and then they'll be like psych 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.800 there's a pig in here. We put a whole fucking 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:30.120 pig in this thing. We did reverse vegan. We made 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:34.159 lintels out of pig. I just ate everywhere I go, 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.159 you can crush and falafel. And one of the Catalan 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:42.399 national dishes is called kappi potta, which means head and 0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:47.399 foot because those are the ingredients, and it's it's a 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:51.600 bit of a pig that no one else wanted. One 0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.560 of the American national dishes, it's also the head and 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.560 feet of the face of a pig, but they call 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.240 it a hot dog. At least the Catalans are honest 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.600 about it, that's true. But yeah, if they's better now 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.560 to eat vegan, I'm vegan, and now was there in 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:12.040 have to move among the right circles. But yeah, on 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:16.320 the rambler it would be hard. And so that night, companies, 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.560 he's walking down the rambler. He's got his hat across 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:19.840 his face so no one could see him, and he's 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:21.760 pulled up his color kind of like an old timey 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:26.720 private eye. H and up and down the rambler. Anarchists 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:30.119 and socialists are stealing cars and welding armor plates to 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.720 the front of them. Yeah, yeah, yes, another time honored 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:39.240 anarchist tradition. Yeah. King of war is the improvised technical 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.240 and so what they do here is, well these steel plates, right, 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.240 and then they write the name of the union on top, 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.720 just so people can know who's killing them. Well, and 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:53.200 so they could keep track of their stolphin cars. Yeah, yeah, 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.439 that's right, Like, yeah, you don't want anyone stealing your 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.399 stolen car. Yeah yeah. There comes a point in the 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.840 next couple of weeks where some of the more ideologically 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:08.720 committed anarchists will stop or take down traffic signals because 0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:13.480 they feel they're an unwarranted restriction on individual liberty. Those 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.360 Twitter discourse yeah yeah, get on that tank you Yes, 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.680 time was a flat circle. Yeah, it's it's very funny. Um. 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.000 I'll bet they. I bet there were was a contingent 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:31.160 of them that were taking down libraries to for gatekeeping knowledge. Libraries. 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:40.440 Libraries are big prisons, book pigs. Yeah yeah, they burned 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.080 just in a class of anarchist fashion. Or we all 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.200 know that libraries are better served under a free market 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:48.880 system like that. One guy tweeted, Yes, Amazon should run 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.480 the library and every book should cost you ten dollars. Yep, 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.800 that's uh. That's the only way we can grow as 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.720 a society. And if you don't like it, well something 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.960 in front of your truck. All So, if you have 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.920 an idea that's based on a book in Amazon owns 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.040 the copyright, they know own the idea, that's the only 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:10.960 thing that's fair. No thinking without proper copy right, Is 0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.199 it okay to use words if Jeffrey Bezos already owned words? No? 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.359 Does that mean that we're going to be fighting the 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:21.240 next one of these situations with instead of spray painting CNT, 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.280 someone's going to come by and spray paint Amazon basics 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.880 onto them with a third chose I'm doing that tonight. 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.320 I would be upper armoring my truck as soon as 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:35.080 we're finished, yeah, and spray painting Amazon Basics and then 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.240 just going to the beach after that. And actually what 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.760 they spraints painted on the there was CNT, there was 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:45.800 u g T, there was PHI. These are CNT Confederal, 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.560 a nationalit TRABAJO right National Labor Confederation. This is an 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:56.400 Anarcho Syndicalist Union uh FI. Uh Federal Anarchist Barrier is 0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:00.240 the Iberian Anarchist Federation. They're a group with in the 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.480 c NT that is more committed to a hardline, illogical 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:09.680 ideological anarchism, the hug Tier or Socialist Union. You have 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.920 other groups to the pom Is probably any other one 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.959 you need to know. They are not trotsky it's Trotskyites. 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.240 Anyone who tells you they are either doesn't know what 0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.720 they're talking about or is consciously misleading you. And they 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.640 were in open beef with trotsky right like that they are. 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.880 They are writing letters to trotsky beefing about whether they 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:34.600 should exist, which trotsky Is is a no on that question. U. So, yeah, 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.520 they're not trotsky As. They just get called trotsky Is 0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.120 by Stylinists because everyone who they didn't like is a Stylinist. 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:44.400 Right that they are anti Stylinist Marxists. Um, that's what 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:49.000 I will call them. What some folks do, though, is 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:53.120 they paint you HP on top of their cars. You 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:58.200 nedos armanos Protario. So I think it stands for United 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:03.560 Proletarian Siblings, I guess. And that's important, right, because these 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.960 groups had been fighting among themselves and with each other 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:12.640 for a very long time and having like what appeared 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.400 today to be kind of comical beefs about inconsequential things. 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.720 But they were important, and then you know, this ideological 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.120 commitment is what gets them through this period of time. 0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:25.080 But the uh P comes from a studius where anarchists 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:30.120 and socialists had come together to fight against the state 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.400 rank to fight as part of a minor strike minors 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:38.160 particular love for dynamite, by the way, that's how they, yeah, 0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.520 kings of the dynamite throw that. That's how they dealt 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.920 with the local garrison. Really, and actually the first use 0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.880 of a combat helicopter was against the Popular Front, the 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.120 uh P in a studius, and that strike was eventually 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.280 put down by one Francisco Franco, who will learn about later. 0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:03.040 Nice guy, No problems with him. That's a lie. Yeah, shocking, 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.200 I know it turns out to be a total turd 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.600 of a human being. But he was, wasn't he? Um? 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.080 Oh no, I'm going down a rabbit hole. Wasn't he 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.480 like some sort of vaguely wasn't he like a right 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.840 wing syndicalist for a while? Yeah, he had all kinds 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.440 of sort of. I don't think Franco had any convinced 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.320 political views other than like that he wanted to be 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:26.400 in charge. But yes, he was a radical syndicalist m 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.040 I said, right wing syndiclast but yeah, no, but so 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.440 a number of officers. I don't know if Franco was with, 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.719 but there were like a group called the Trial Party whoever, Okay, 0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.880 I see, I'm not sure if Franco was one, now 0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:40.239 that I think about it. I try not to learn 0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.640 too much about the person of Francisco Franco, because he 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:47.240 is a turd. He he does pivot. He pivots when 0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.680 he's in power, right from like a sort of more 0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:56.600 totalitarian project to this national Catholic project to sort of yeah, 0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:00.840 he's a problematic dude with yeah, with no clear ideology, 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.239 and then he should be in parent He doesn't care 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.360 who he has to roll over to get there. Um, 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.960 that's a common political ideology, it is. Yeah, it pops 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.480 up a lot on the right, something something there with 0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.720 dudes on the right that maybe we should think about. No, 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.320 it's never happened again, and and never in this country 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.600 of course. Fortunately we're saying it could never happen right 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:25.600 where we are. Yeah, that's not in my backyard. That's 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.560 the real name. Yeah, America is different, I think is 0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:42.440 the subtitle. Okay, so sorry, no, no, I'm just sad. Anyway, 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.200 the people in Barcelona that day were even more numerous 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.520 and diverse, and the already bustling city was used to 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.720 the n July was slater to be the start of 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:55.000 the largest anti fascist spectacle the world ever seen. That's 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:59.880 a direct quote from a publicity artical about the Popular Olympics, right, uh, 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.600 As I said, these games aim to show the strengths 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.200 of the popular front with a series of events. Some 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.320 of those events tore the ones you might expect, but 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.600 some of these events were designed to reward nations with 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.400 a healthy working class rather than nations with a few 0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.800 exceptional athletes. Right. So we look at the Olympics today, 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.440 having one or two exceptional athletes, especially in certain areas, 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.840 can like vault you to the top of the medal table. Right. 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:31.400 Medal table, of course, invented by the Nazis to illustrate eugenics. 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.600 Uh wold really yeah yeah, Before most six there was 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.280 no Olympics table. Uh, not in the famble way that 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.720 we see it now. So much of the pageantry that 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:46.200 we associate with the Olympic Games was invented by Carl D. 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:51.120 M uh The torch relay, the parade, of flags in 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:56.400 the opening ceremony, Like, yeah, the the Olympics are fucking Nuremberg, 0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:00.480 like with the rainbow rings. It's wild. Much of that 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:05.280 ship is cribs straight from Nazi pageantry. Oh um. The 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.080 book called The Nazi Game is pretty good on that 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.200 if you want to read it. Um. Lots of books 0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.560 about the thirty six Olympics. But yeah, um, I should 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.359 just acknowledge that the the International Olympic Committee did fund 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:21.800 a lot of my research for reasons that mayde becoming 0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.960 clear have since ceased. Also, Clays didn't think I was 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:29.480 very good, I guess. But anyway, institution that has some 0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.719 ship to deal with that it hasn't dealt with, I 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.480 would say, um. And yet it was on its bullshit 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.359 heavily in X right. Um. So one of the things 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.520 they did at the Popular Olympics was they had a 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.160 ten by hundred meter relay. And it's just like, I 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.719 don't know if the Americans have school sports days. Yes, 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.280 I tried to, well, I I don't remember anything about 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:56.960 public school sporting events. Okay, at the risk of sort 0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:01.680 of unveiling more trauma, what happened, Yeah, that's fine, Okay, 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.600 what happens here? Is that. Uh, you line up right 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.920 in groups of five and you just run back and forth, 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.560 passing a bat on to each other, and much like 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.600 school sport today, with the caveat being that the people 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.560 in this event had to already be entered in other 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:20.840 events at the games, and so like you just get 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.839 like weightlifters, and there was a chess event at the games, right, 0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.800 so you get the chess athletes and they're just hauling 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.759 ass as fast as their chess playing legs can carry 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:35.200 them back and forth to prove the like superior health 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:42.600 of their nation's working class. Chess chess leads, chess chess leads, 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:46.480 chess leads. Yeah, thanks, Yeah, I really saved with that one. Yeah, 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.080 you pulled the back. Yeah, I'm proud of you. Yeah. 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:54.120 They didn't have any mathletes sadly. Yeah, they did have 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.760 people who built human castles. It's another event and really 0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.240 wait wait wait wait a castle made out of humans? 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.440 Whoa wait, you are not familiar with Cashtel's the like 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:09.160 the the Great cathol And tradition of building human towers. No, okay, 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:14.799 like pivot. Uh it's fucked now. One of my friends 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.880 wrote her PhD on these uh about that they just 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:23.799 made up. Just now listen, okay, A you can write 0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.640 your history PhD about literally anything, as long as no 0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.239 one else has written it before that. The scene a 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:35.359 quand of history PhDs. And I wrote my PhD about 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.760 the anti for Olympics, right, I wrote my master's about 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:43.319 predatarian shopping trips. Uh that's cool, yeah, I thought so 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:48.399 um at the time. The yes, So Cashel's right. You 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.399 you get your people at the bottom, right, and they 0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.480 sort of wrap a ribbon around their waist and then 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:55.720 they often bite the corners of their shirt. I'm aware 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.960 that I'm biting my shirt, and this is mainly an 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:02.319 audio medium. But they'll wrap their hands over the other people, right, 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.719 men and women, non binding people, I'm sure to form 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.200 a big old circle. And then the next layer climb 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.319 up them right and stand on top of them. It's 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:13.120 slightly fewer people, and the people get smaller, and the 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.160 layers have fewer people in them, like concentric circles. Right, 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.040 as you get higher and higher, and then a small 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.279 child wearing always a horse riding helmet for reasons that 0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.919 are not entirely clear, as sends, and this ship is high, 0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.560 like if you're standing on your balcony, like you are 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:32.360 eye to eye with this fucking toddler who climbs up 0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.399 the top, get to the top like arm in the air, 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:39.280 and then climbs back down. And and these groups people 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:44.000 do people do this all the time. Yeah. Look, American's 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.919 national sport is is this thing where like young young 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.560 men give each other brain damage. So I'm not anti this, 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:53.760 and I'm just well, I'm actually impressed by it because 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.920 we do the human pyramid thing, which is the same thing. 0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:01.759 All they're not nearly as impressive or interesting. No, checkout casts. 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:05.080 The cool thing about them as they exist within communities, right, 0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:09.040 these colds, these groups of castodiers are groups of people 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.000 who do this from a neighborhood, right, so that they'll 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.160 all be from a certain town, like the Talagona group 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:19.240 was the one near me and my friends. Dissertation Ida 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:23.120 reports a name, you can probably look it up. It 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.040 was about like how this this practice has been integraling 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:32.520 into incorporating migrants into Catalan us, right, like Catalana identity 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.400 by being like yeah, come and come and stand on 0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.560 us or be stood on by us, and you two 0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.359 can be Catalan. Oh that seems like that would Yeah, 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.960 that would bring a community closer together into a heap 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.040 on the ground. Yeah, and it has all kinds of 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.480 other uses, right, catch stuck up a tree, just call 0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:54.759 those guys water rubber house. Yeah, famously ladders a band 0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:59.359 in Catalonia because there for cowards. Yeah yeah, just all 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.680 day pasts. But yeah, this was part of the popular Olympics, right, 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:06.920 human castles. I'm glad we went there for everyone who 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.560 didn't know. People googling that it's part of the u 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.600 n like United Nations Protected Human Patrimony or something like. 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.680 It's a it's it's a bit important. So do you 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.560 ever just like make up stuff to tell Americans about 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.400 and then we believe you because you have an accent? 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.759 I mean we have an accent too, sure, but like yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.440 luckily your accents are all neutral and vanilla, yeah exactly 0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:37.399 voice yeah yeah, um uh no. I did I think 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.759 I've told this story on the internet before that. One 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.520 time I was giving a talk about diabetes in the 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:46.279 Bronx and I asked if this kid wanted to ask 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.120 These kids they wanted to ask any questions, and young 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:52.120 women itching to ask a question just goes, do you 0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:56.200 guys really have pies? With meeting them, like as if 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.360 she hadn't misled her whole life. I was able to 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:03.520 confirm that what I savory pies like fucked me up. 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:05.880 When I was in France, I was completely unprepared for 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.560 the existence of these things. I volunteered to cook for 0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.040 a bunch of um, a bunch of activists who are 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:12.920 busy having their meeting, and I was like, yeah, sure, 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:14.719 I'll come cook for you. And I figured I would 0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.839 just like show up and make pasta burritos because I'm 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:22.239 an American. And they gave me a lemonnu and on 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.040 it was tarte legume and I was like, I know 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:29.000 what those words mean. That means pie, vegetables, and that 0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.000 isn't that doesn't exist. I don't know what the funk 0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:35.200 you're talking about. Um, this is not a very interesting 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.640 story and now everyone's heard it. But I learned how 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:43.719 to make a vegetable pie on no notice because that 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.800 was what the menu insisted upon. And yeah, I I 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.360 feel for this person in the Bronx who wasn't convinced 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.840 that you were telling the truth about meat pies. Yeah, 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.400 I'm if they're listening. I was a promise looking up. 0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.799 Now they got Google. Yeah, the lesson we've learned there 0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:15.440 is and cook for French people, so other games. One 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.000 of the cool things is that nations competing instead of states, right, 0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.160 And we can fucking go off on the difference between 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:24.080 nations and states. The state is the entity the that 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.600 has political control and exercise of monopoly on the gitimate 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.600 violence in the geographic area. A nation is an imagined 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.680 community that exists across base and time. That's the shortest 0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:34.840 I'm going to do that, and I'm not going to 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:39.960 say anything that what's a country between those country is 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.280 it's a geographical area that is state controls, but sometimes 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:47.160 it's mapped onto nation as well, right, like Catalonia being 0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.359 a good example. But for most of the time people 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:56.359 use it synonymously with state. So countries aren't competing. Nations are, right. 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.040 The exiled Jews of Europe are competing, right, because if 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.680 you're Jewish and it's nineteen thirty six, don't want to 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.919 fucking like marching there with the German flag, I would 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:10.360 imagine doesn't feel good like negative vibes, so they don't 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:12.480 do that. There. They are the exiled Jews, right, and 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.960 the anti fascists who are exiled from Germany Italy. They 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.480 also come in with their own different flags. Right. Um. 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.799 Initially there was some rumblings about the U a CP 0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.600 sort of competing in the end of the United States team, 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.920 which is made up of trade unionists, had black and 0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:34.319 white folks on it. The organizers are actually so invested 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:39.760 in like um, the I guess including a pressed black 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.360 people from the United States within the remit of people 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:49.040 who sort of anti fascism wanted to advocate for that. 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.200 They threw this whole Olympics together in like three or 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.120 four months. It was shoestring budget. It's funded by the 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.759 French government, Spanish government, the Catalan government, individual donors, and 0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:02.480 some trade unions from Norway. And they took their very 0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.760 sparse money and we're like, we will pay your way 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.239 if you if you're black people from America want to 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.239 come over here, cause we understand its ship over there 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:12.680 if you want to come and play with us, and 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.120 that's fine, which is cool, Like fuck you to the 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.200 fact that because the whole Olympics is a fuck you 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.520 to to Nazi Germany, right, and so it's cool that 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.000 it also was like and fuck you too. Racism in 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.160 the United States also like I like that, Yeah, and 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.000 like it's also worth noting, actually, look, why are we 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.279 saying fuck you to the Nazis and that like the 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.400 people at the popular Olympics like ran faster, jumped higher, 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:38.640 worre stronger, like the Olympics are extremely gate kept by class. 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.759 We see that. We see that kind of crumbling like 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.319 with your with your man Jesse Owens and stuff like that. Right, 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:49.080 but at this point there were still workers sports and 0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.000 bourgeois sports and bourgeois sports twins the Olympics, right, Like 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.640 the Olympics still had an amateurism rule. If you got 0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:59.239 paid for exercising, you couldn't go. H So yeah, which 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.480 meant that like working class people, right, like if you 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.759 don't get paid time off, and one gets paid time 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:07.520 off it's six then they can't go and compete. Right 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.720 Like if even if you work full time and I say, hey, Margaret, 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:12.440 I'll pay for a couple of weeks, you know, I'll 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:13.520 make sure I take care of your rents so you 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.560 can go and do the Olympics, Nope, if you run 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.239 a benefit race after the Olympics, they will take your 0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:23.040 medal away. Tom Longboat who they did that too. They 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:28.320 do that a whole lot to people who aren't white, shockingly. Um, so, yeah, 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.319 Olympics not great. Actually, maybe we'll do a whole left 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:35.759 bird and the Olympics do some bad ship. But yeah, 0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.799 these people come from America right on the team. It's 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.200 Charlie Burley. Charlie Burley goes on to be kind of 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:46.480 a legendary boxer, right, he's biracial man from Pennsylvania. Uh. 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.200 And Dot Tucker she's a black woman. She ran her 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:55.240 union in the Bronx and she ran hardromiters as well. Yeah, 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.640 fucking planned that one out. Yeah, I love And they've 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.799 written into the script like planned out. It's good, don't 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.640 we It sounds sarcastic, but I actually mean it really honestly. 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.560 You can appreciate the joy I'm feeling right now. And 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:15.160 so that games brings twenty thou anti fascist to Barcelona, right, 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.640 and some of them are watching, some of them are competing, 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.719 some of them are staying in hotels. The Hotel Olympic 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:23.680 is where most of them stay. But they ran of space. 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.200 So about two weeks before the games, they went around 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.000 random houses and we're like, hey, can you have someone 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.440 to stay? So lots of the athletes are just like 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.600 crashing with people. It's kind of cool. If you go 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.719 to the archive in Barcelona, you can see the little 0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:37.720 forms where they go up to a house and be like, okay, 0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.160 this person has two beds and they can take care 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.759 of breakfast. And that's two athletes who can stay here. 0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.520 They went door to door. Yeah, it's heartbreaking seeing that 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.520 ship and then knowing what happened. Um, I was thinking 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.880 it was like a better way to Um. Yeah, like 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.719 that's what Airbnb should be, you know, yes, yeah, I 0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.759 think if the Airbnb, if we compare this to the 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.160 Berlin Olympic village where the Condor legions stayed before they 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.200 headed off to bomb people in Spain, we will see 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:09.319 that one side is better than the other side. And yeah, 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:13.719 so these people are staying all across Barcelona, right. They's 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.440 trained in the stadium the day before they distriputed all 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:20.920 around the city. So in the morning of the these 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:25.480 are kind of hardcore Catholic conservatives. Um, they report to 0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:28.920 the stand Indario barracks outside of Barcelona. Meanwhile, at the 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.920 pedroal Bes barracks, officers get their troops up, but think 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.200 a four in the morning serve them a ration of 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:38.840 rum for breakfast and tell them that there's been an 0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.239 anarchist uprising in the city that they have to put down, 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.279 and so they send them my right, this is a lie. Yeah, 0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.239 the uprising is in fact what they are doing as 0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:50.720 they march into the city. It's telling that they lie 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:55.040 because the troops are conscripts and are not really brought 0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:59.319 into their nationalist crusade at this point. And it's worth 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:01.640 always remember, and they're like working class people get trapped 0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.040 up in wars, often not by their own choosing. Well, 0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.120 so it's kind of like how they're like, you have 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.680 to go out and fight Antifa, you have to go 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:10.959 out and do a coup against the United States because 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:15.160 otherwise Antifa, who are all Stalinists, are going to turn 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:21.400 the US into the uss are. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:25.040 there are there's no parallel. No, that's that's not a parallel. Sorry, Okay, 0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.000 it could never happen here, and that's that's our big 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:31.480 message for today. So these guys they start heading down 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:35.080 Abgnula Diagonal right towards Plastic Cataluniar at the heart of city, 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.160 the cavalry or on a different street, Kara Tarragona. There 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.520 are dragoons on a different street. They leave a little 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:44.319 later because the Spanish armies something of a clusterfuck, and 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.840 they all plan to join up, but they never did. Instead, 0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.719 all across the city, sirens sound the alarm in factories 0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.560 and where these troops have been planning to meet up 0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:56.799 with one another. They met up with sniper fire and 0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:00.719 those homemade bombs we talked about. Yeah, yeah, this is 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:04.160 where ship gets gets good. At the barricades, they met 0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:07.440 men and women with everything from modern machine pistols to 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:12.880 blunderbusses and slingshots. Yeah, the blunderbusses are pretty cool. You 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.719 can find some pictures. Many troops were forced back into 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.640 their barracks. Some made it as far as a telephone 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.279 exchange and the hotel's riots and cologne in the middle 0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:27.320 of the city. What the troops, who are incredibly poorly 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:30.000 trained consecuts with little or no combat experience and even 0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.879 less willingness to fight, ran into it was the most 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:37.480 unlikely of alliances. Catalonia's Nationalists had governed the autonomous region 0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:39.839 since the declaration of the Republic in nineteen thirty one. 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.200 They formed a broad leftist alliance called the ESCO Republic 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.359 Canada Catalonia. That means Catalan Republican Left. I was calling 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.160 the e r C to avoid that. It's a bit 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:52.279 of an alphabet soup, but I'll try and explain where 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.359 I need to. So before the Popular Front existed, they're 0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:57.320 kind of a proto popular front. They could bind the 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.759 liberal and leftist parties who share agreement on autonomous and 0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:05.400 progressive Catalonia. And they tend to be either aligned with 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.479 or to the left of the government in Madrid, most 0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:11.080 often to the left of UM. They don't cover support 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.960 of the anarchists. Right, that's important, um luis compounds who's 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:19.120 the leader right there, the Catalan leader of the generality 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.799 that at that point has been a lawyer for the 0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.400 anarchist before, so he may have more personal support than 0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:28.360 the party as a whole, hands among the anarchists. UM. 0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.040 For decades, right, the police in Barcelona have acted on 0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:34.160 behalf of capital against labor. They do violence for the 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.959 people who aren't stuff against people who make stuff. And 0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:39.880 even under the Republic, this has continued. Right they had 0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.399 called it the Republic of order, and Margot, I think 0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:47.640 you covered the like the pistosema right there. The years 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:50.520 of the pistol in the nineteen twenties. Yeah, yeah, but 0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:55.040 um it was yeah, they like shooting the anarchists in 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.879 order to bring about order. They and they it wasn't 0:49:58.000 --> 0:49:59.839 like a legal thing. They weren't like, oh, is there 0:49:59.880 --> 0:50:02.880 a egal strategy. It was just like we're in charge, 0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.399 so we will assassinate the anarchists. And then the other 0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:07.719 thing that like, I feel like it's like we're thinking 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:09.600 about because if if someone's hearing, you might be like, 0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:11.960 why does the government care if the anarchists are on 0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.680 their side? And it's to my understanding and correct me 0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:17.240 if I'm wrong. The anarchists are like a huge chunk 0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.520 of the working class of Barcelona at this point, so 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.640 it's like they actually do care because it's a huge, 0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:28.279 huge swaths of people. The anarchists by the end of 0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:31.200 the night will own the city, right, and they have 0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.640 always been the majority of the Catalan working class in 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.600 this period. They they control the way elections go. Right. 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.520 When the anarchists abstained, then the right winds when the 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:44.840 anarchists they don't say, don't vote, like they don't like 0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.200 they're not like, yeah, I go vote, They're like they 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:54.680 don't maybe consider not abstaining, then the popular front winds. Right. Yeah, 0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:57.480 it's very funny how they how they use words. But yeah, 0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:00.479 the the anarchists are the working class for the most 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:02.359 of the most of the industries, most of the unions 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.000 are anarcho synicalist. Right, so you don't have support the anarchists, 0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:08.800 you don't have support the working class. In the twenties, 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.359 the cops called the anarchists. The anarchists called the cops. Right. 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:16.000 This is how we get the famous affinity groups, right 0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:23.080 Lost Darios, los Quixotes, Delidiale and being some famous ones. Right, 0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:24.320 And we'll talk about them a little bit in the 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.279 next episode how that works and what they mean. Uh. 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:32.720 So ninety one, their declaration of Republic was a massive 0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:36.359 boost for the anarchists. More people have joined anarchist unions. 0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:39.319 They felt safe for doing so. Primo de Rivera, the 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.800 previous dictator had been very harsh an anarchists. They actually, 0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:46.880 briefly in the out job the GAT secured like libertarian 0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:49.959 socialists and they just took over some towns. Uh and 0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:53.960 like they they see his weapons from the cops and 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:58.080 abolished currency for a week and it was just like 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:01.560 get it's on it's it's anarchism. And so for five 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:03.680 days for goals belonged to the people of the gold. 0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.520 And this is before we're talking about, before the the 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.680 coup and all of that. Yeah, this is republic begins 0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:12.880 in n So there's a number of these early on 0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:16.240 in the Republic, when the state is less violently postured 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:20.040 towards anarchism, the anarchists really fucking send it um. You 0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:22.520 see it in Casas via hearsts, you see in fig goals. 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.600 So yeah, they more people joining because they feel safe 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.760 for joining, and that leads to more open conflict with 0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:33.360 the sort of civil order I guess. But with the 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:37.759 threat of fascism looming, the CNT establishes defense committees and 0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.399 these become like a quick reaction force for the city. Right, 0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.320 so by the time the troops leave their barracks, activists 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:47.520 within the CNT were ready for them. Barcelona's reval, the 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:50.600 densely populated district just off the more tourists friendly Rambler 0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:54.400 have become known as a Bari Chines and that means Chinatown, 0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:57.040 not because Chinese people are people of any Asian extraction 0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:01.880 lived there. That's because they watched gangster movies about Chicago's Chinatown, 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.520 and they were like, oh yeah, we're we can go 0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:08.800 that hard. Okay, they just called it that. Chris Elum 0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:12.080 has a great book on the construction of Chinatown. Now, 0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:14.680 people have been shooting each other in those streets for decades, right, 0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:17.799 But for once everyone in the revol was pointing their 0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:22.160 guns out every balcony, and the raval becomes a sniper's nest, 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:25.200 and by the time the sun came up, it was 0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:29.319 an impenetible fortress of the working class. And at this 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.640 time the state would find itself begging the anarchist for 0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:34.319 support and not the other way around. And I think 0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:38.080 that's maybe where we'll end it today, so that people 0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.160 can be sort of teetering on the edge of the 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:42.879 seat to know what happened next. Thank you very much 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.160 for joining me, Margaret. Would you like to plug anything? 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:48.799 Do you have any plug dobles? 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