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Speaker 1: we can't rob it into being here for Civil War

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Speaker 1: Killjoy uh and Sophi and get who are less special

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Speaker 1: civil war, right, that's what I've read and read start

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Speaker 1: a civil war, Sophie. We we cleared that. We cleared

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Speaker 1: go go go ahead, cool zone media, start a civil war,

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Speaker 1: And that's pretty the best option that's going to learn

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Speaker 1: my nickname, the Jesus Christ of podcasting, right, Sophie now. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about the Spanish Civil War. We're not

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Speaker 1: and was vegan, and my Spanish and my Cotys non existent,

423
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Speaker 1: so I mostly were hang out and cooked pasta. There

424
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Speaker 1: are not a lot of cities I've been to where

425
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Speaker 1: it's harder to eat vegan than Barcelona. That is, that

426
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: is a challenge. Maybe Belgrade, where then where the national

427
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: dishes thirty pounds of meat on a plate. Yeah, Sophia

428
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: knows Sophia, so I can't remember I pronounced the name

429
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: of the capital of Bulgaria. Um also a hard place

430
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Speaker 1: to eat vegan. That was hard for me. Yeah, that

431
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: does not surprise me. Yea, yeah, surprise me. It's a

432
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Speaker 1: big part of the cattle in cuisine. You'll be like, oh, yeah,

433
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm having some lentils, and then they'll be like psych

434
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: there's a pig in here. We put a whole fucking

435
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Speaker 1: pig in this thing. We did reverse vegan. We made

436
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: lintels out of pig. I just ate everywhere I go,

437
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: you can crush and falafel. And one of the Catalan

438
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: national dishes is called kappi potta, which means head and

439
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: foot because those are the ingredients, and it's it's a

440
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: bit of a pig that no one else wanted. One

441
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: of the American national dishes, it's also the head and

442
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: feet of the face of a pig, but they call

443
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: it a hot dog. At least the Catalans are honest

444
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: about it, that's true. But yeah, if they's better now

445
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: to eat vegan, I'm vegan, and now was there in

446
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: have to move among the right circles. But yeah, on

447
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: the rambler it would be hard. And so that night, companies,

448
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: he's walking down the rambler. He's got his hat across

449
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: his face so no one could see him, and he's

450
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: pulled up his color kind of like an old timey

451
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: private eye. H and up and down the rambler. Anarchists

452
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: and socialists are stealing cars and welding armor plates to

453
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: the front of them. Yeah, yeah, yes, another time honored

454
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: anarchist tradition. Yeah. King of war is the improvised technical

455
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: and so what they do here is, well these steel plates, right,

456
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: and then they write the name of the union on top,

457
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: just so people can know who's killing them. Well, and

458
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: so they could keep track of their stolphin cars. Yeah, yeah,

459
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: that's right, Like, yeah, you don't want anyone stealing your

460
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: stolen car. Yeah yeah. There comes a point in the

461
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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks where some of the more ideologically

462
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: committed anarchists will stop or take down traffic signals because

463
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: they feel they're an unwarranted restriction on individual liberty. Those

464
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Twitter discourse yeah yeah, get on that tank you Yes,

465
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: time was a flat circle. Yeah, it's it's very funny. Um.

466
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: I'll bet they. I bet there were was a contingent

467
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: of them that were taking down libraries to for gatekeeping knowledge. Libraries.

468
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: Libraries are big prisons, book pigs. Yeah yeah, they burned

469
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: just in a class of anarchist fashion. Or we all

470
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: know that libraries are better served under a free market

471
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: system like that. One guy tweeted, Yes, Amazon should run

472
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: the library and every book should cost you ten dollars. Yep,

473
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: that's uh. That's the only way we can grow as

474
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: a society. And if you don't like it, well something

475
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: in front of your truck. All So, if you have

476
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: an idea that's based on a book in Amazon owns

477
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: the copyright, they know own the idea, that's the only

478
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: thing that's fair. No thinking without proper copy right, Is

479
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: it okay to use words if Jeffrey Bezos already owned words? No?

480
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: Does that mean that we're going to be fighting the

481
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: next one of these situations with instead of spray painting CNT,

482
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: someone's going to come by and spray paint Amazon basics

483
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: onto them with a third chose I'm doing that tonight.

484
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: I would be upper armoring my truck as soon as

485
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: we're finished, yeah, and spray painting Amazon Basics and then

486
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: just going to the beach after that. And actually what

487
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: they spraints painted on the there was CNT, there was

488
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: u g T, there was PHI. These are CNT Confederal,

489
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: a nationalit TRABAJO right National Labor Confederation. This is an

490
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: Anarcho Syndicalist Union uh FI. Uh Federal Anarchist Barrier is

491
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: the Iberian Anarchist Federation. They're a group with in the

492
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Speaker 1: c NT that is more committed to a hardline, illogical

493
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: ideological anarchism, the hug Tier or Socialist Union. You have

494
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: other groups to the pom Is probably any other one

495
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: you need to know. They are not trotsky it's Trotskyites.

496
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: Anyone who tells you they are either doesn't know what

497
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: they're talking about or is consciously misleading you. And they

498
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: were in open beef with trotsky right like that they are.

499
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: They are writing letters to trotsky beefing about whether they

500
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: should exist, which trotsky Is is a no on that question. U. So, yeah,

501
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: they're not trotsky As. They just get called trotsky Is

502
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: by Stylinists because everyone who they didn't like is a Stylinist.

503
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Right that they are anti Stylinist Marxists. Um, that's what

504
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: I will call them. What some folks do, though, is

505
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: they paint you HP on top of their cars. You

506
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: nedos armanos Protario. So I think it stands for United

507
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Proletarian Siblings, I guess. And that's important, right, because these

508
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: groups had been fighting among themselves and with each other

509
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: for a very long time and having like what appeared

510
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: today to be kind of comical beefs about inconsequential things.

511
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: But they were important, and then you know, this ideological

512
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: commitment is what gets them through this period of time.

513
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: But the uh P comes from a studius where anarchists

514
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: and socialists had come together to fight against the state

515
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: rank to fight as part of a minor strike minors

516
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: particular love for dynamite, by the way, that's how they, yeah,

517
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: kings of the dynamite throw that. That's how they dealt

518
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: with the local garrison. Really, and actually the first use

519
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: of a combat helicopter was against the Popular Front, the

520
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: uh P in a studius, and that strike was eventually

521
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: put down by one Francisco Franco, who will learn about later.

522
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Nice guy, No problems with him. That's a lie. Yeah, shocking,

523
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: I know it turns out to be a total turd

524
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: of a human being. But he was, wasn't he? Um?

525
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm going down a rabbit hole. Wasn't he

526
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: like some sort of vaguely wasn't he like a right

527
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: wing syndicalist for a while? Yeah, he had all kinds

528
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: of sort of. I don't think Franco had any convinced

529
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: political views other than like that he wanted to be

530
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: in charge. But yes, he was a radical syndicalist m

531
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: I said, right wing syndiclast but yeah, no, but so

532
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: a number of officers. I don't know if Franco was with,

533
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: but there were like a group called the Trial Party whoever, Okay,

534
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I see, I'm not sure if Franco was one, now

535
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: that I think about it. I try not to learn

536
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: too much about the person of Francisco Franco, because he

537
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: is a turd. He he does pivot. He pivots when

538
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: he's in power, right from like a sort of more

539
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: totalitarian project to this national Catholic project to sort of yeah,

540
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: he's a problematic dude with yeah, with no clear ideology,

541
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: and then he should be in parent He doesn't care

542
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: who he has to roll over to get there. Um,

543
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: that's a common political ideology, it is. Yeah, it pops

544
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: up a lot on the right, something something there with

545
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: dudes on the right that maybe we should think about. No,

546
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: it's never happened again, and and never in this country

547
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: of course. Fortunately we're saying it could never happen right

548
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: where we are. Yeah, that's not in my backyard. That's

549
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: the real name. Yeah, America is different, I think is

550
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: the subtitle. Okay, so sorry, no, no, I'm just sad. Anyway,

551
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: the people in Barcelona that day were even more numerous

552
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: and diverse, and the already bustling city was used to

553
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: the n July was slater to be the start of

554
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: the largest anti fascist spectacle the world ever seen. That's

555
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: a direct quote from a publicity artical about the Popular Olympics, right, uh,

556
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: As I said, these games aim to show the strengths

557
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: of the popular front with a series of events. Some

558
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: of those events tore the ones you might expect, but

559
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: some of these events were designed to reward nations with

560
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: a healthy working class rather than nations with a few

561
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: exceptional athletes. Right. So we look at the Olympics today,

562
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: having one or two exceptional athletes, especially in certain areas,

563
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: can like vault you to the top of the medal table. Right.

564
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: Medal table, of course, invented by the Nazis to illustrate eugenics.

565
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: Uh wold really yeah yeah, Before most six there was

566
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: no Olympics table. Uh, not in the famble way that

567
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: we see it now. So much of the pageantry that

568
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: we associate with the Olympic Games was invented by Carl D.

569
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Speaker 1: M uh The torch relay, the parade, of flags in

570
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: the opening ceremony, Like, yeah, the the Olympics are fucking Nuremberg,

571
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: like with the rainbow rings. It's wild. Much of that

572
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: ship is cribs straight from Nazi pageantry. Oh um. The

573
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: book called The Nazi Game is pretty good on that

574
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: if you want to read it. Um. Lots of books

575
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: about the thirty six Olympics. But yeah, um, I should

576
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: just acknowledge that the the International Olympic Committee did fund

577
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: a lot of my research for reasons that mayde becoming

578
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: clear have since ceased. Also, Clays didn't think I was

579
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: very good, I guess. But anyway, institution that has some

580
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: ship to deal with that it hasn't dealt with, I

581
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: would say, um. And yet it was on its bullshit

582
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: heavily in X right. Um. So one of the things

583
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: they did at the Popular Olympics was they had a

584
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: ten by hundred meter relay. And it's just like, I

585
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: don't know if the Americans have school sports days. Yes,

586
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: I tried to, well, I I don't remember anything about

587
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: public school sporting events. Okay, at the risk of sort

588
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: of unveiling more trauma, what happened, Yeah, that's fine, Okay,

589
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: what happens here? Is that. Uh, you line up right

590
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: in groups of five and you just run back and forth,

591
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: passing a bat on to each other, and much like

592
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: school sport today, with the caveat being that the people

593
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: in this event had to already be entered in other

594
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: events at the games, and so like you just get

595
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: like weightlifters, and there was a chess event at the games, right,

596
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: so you get the chess athletes and they're just hauling

597
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: ass as fast as their chess playing legs can carry

598
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: them back and forth to prove the like superior health

599
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: of their nation's working class. Chess chess leads, chess chess leads,

600
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: chess leads. Yeah, thanks, Yeah, I really saved with that one. Yeah,

601
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: you pulled the back. Yeah, I'm proud of you. Yeah.

602
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: They didn't have any mathletes sadly. Yeah, they did have

603
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: people who built human castles. It's another event and really

604
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,240
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait a castle made out of humans?

605
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: Whoa wait, you are not familiar with Cashtel's the like

606
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: the the Great cathol And tradition of building human towers. No, okay,

607
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: like pivot. Uh it's fucked now. One of my friends

608
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: wrote her PhD on these uh about that they just

609
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: made up. Just now listen, okay, A you can write

610
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: your history PhD about literally anything, as long as no

611
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: one else has written it before that. The scene a

612
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: quand of history PhDs. And I wrote my PhD about

613
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: the anti for Olympics, right, I wrote my master's about

614
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: predatarian shopping trips. Uh that's cool, yeah, I thought so

615
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: um at the time. The yes, So Cashel's right. You

616
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: you get your people at the bottom, right, and they

617
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: sort of wrap a ribbon around their waist and then

618
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: they often bite the corners of their shirt. I'm aware

619
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: that I'm biting my shirt, and this is mainly an

620
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: audio medium. But they'll wrap their hands over the other people, right,

621
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Speaker 1: men and women, non binding people, I'm sure to form

622
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: a big old circle. And then the next layer climb

623
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: up them right and stand on top of them. It's

624
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: slightly fewer people, and the people get smaller, and the

625
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: layers have fewer people in them, like concentric circles. Right,

626
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: as you get higher and higher, and then a small

627
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: child wearing always a horse riding helmet for reasons that

628
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: are not entirely clear, as sends, and this ship is high,

629
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: like if you're standing on your balcony, like you are

630
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: eye to eye with this fucking toddler who climbs up

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Speaker 1: the top, get to the top like arm in the air,

632
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: and then climbs back down. And and these groups people

633
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: do people do this all the time. Yeah. Look, American's

634
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: national sport is is this thing where like young young

635
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: men give each other brain damage. So I'm not anti this,

636
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: and I'm just well, I'm actually impressed by it because

637
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: we do the human pyramid thing, which is the same thing.

638
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: All they're not nearly as impressive or interesting. No, checkout casts.

639
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: The cool thing about them as they exist within communities, right,

640
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: these colds, these groups of castodiers are groups of people

641
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: who do this from a neighborhood, right, so that they'll

642
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: all be from a certain town, like the Talagona group

643
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: was the one near me and my friends. Dissertation Ida

644
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Speaker 1: reports a name, you can probably look it up. It

645
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: was about like how this this practice has been integraling

646
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: into incorporating migrants into Catalan us, right, like Catalana identity

647
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: by being like yeah, come and come and stand on

648
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: us or be stood on by us, and you two

649
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: can be Catalan. Oh that seems like that would Yeah,

650
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: that would bring a community closer together into a heap

651
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: on the ground. Yeah, and it has all kinds of

652
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: other uses, right, catch stuck up a tree, just call

653
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: those guys water rubber house. Yeah, famously ladders a band

654
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: in Catalonia because there for cowards. Yeah yeah, just all

655
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: day pasts. But yeah, this was part of the popular Olympics, right,

656
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: human castles. I'm glad we went there for everyone who

657
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: didn't know. People googling that it's part of the u

658
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: n like United Nations Protected Human Patrimony or something like.

659
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: It's a it's it's a bit important. So do you

660
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: ever just like make up stuff to tell Americans about

661
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: and then we believe you because you have an accent?

662
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: I mean we have an accent too, sure, but like yeah, yeah, yeah,

663
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: luckily your accents are all neutral and vanilla, yeah exactly

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: voice yeah yeah, um uh no. I did I think

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00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: I've told this story on the internet before that. One

666
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: time I was giving a talk about diabetes in the

667
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: Bronx and I asked if this kid wanted to ask

668
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: These kids they wanted to ask any questions, and young

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00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: women itching to ask a question just goes, do you

670
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: guys really have pies? With meeting them, like as if

671
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: she hadn't misled her whole life. I was able to

672
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: confirm that what I savory pies like fucked me up.

673
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: When I was in France, I was completely unprepared for

674
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: the existence of these things. I volunteered to cook for

675
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of um, a bunch of activists who are

676
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: busy having their meeting, and I was like, yeah, sure,

677
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: I'll come cook for you. And I figured I would

678
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: just like show up and make pasta burritos because I'm

679
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: an American. And they gave me a lemonnu and on

680
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: it was tarte legume and I was like, I know

681
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: what those words mean. That means pie, vegetables, and that

682
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: isn't that doesn't exist. I don't know what the funk

683
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Um, this is not a very interesting

684
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: story and now everyone's heard it. But I learned how

685
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: to make a vegetable pie on no notice because that

686
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: was what the menu insisted upon. And yeah, I I

687
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: feel for this person in the Bronx who wasn't convinced

688
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: that you were telling the truth about meat pies. Yeah,

689
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm if they're listening. I was a promise looking up.

690
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: Now they got Google. Yeah, the lesson we've learned there

691
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: is and cook for French people, so other games. One

692
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: of the cool things is that nations competing instead of states, right,

693
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: And we can fucking go off on the difference between

694
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: nations and states. The state is the entity the that

695
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: has political control and exercise of monopoly on the gitimate

696
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: violence in the geographic area. A nation is an imagined

697
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: community that exists across base and time. That's the shortest

698
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that, and I'm not going to

699
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: say anything that what's a country between those country is

700
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: it's a geographical area that is state controls, but sometimes

701
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: it's mapped onto nation as well, right, like Catalonia being

702
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: a good example. But for most of the time people

703
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: use it synonymously with state. So countries aren't competing. Nations are, right.

704
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: The exiled Jews of Europe are competing, right, because if

705
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: you're Jewish and it's nineteen thirty six, don't want to

706
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: fucking like marching there with the German flag, I would

707
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: imagine doesn't feel good like negative vibes, so they don't

708
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: do that. There. They are the exiled Jews, right, and

709
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: the anti fascists who are exiled from Germany Italy. They

710
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: also come in with their own different flags. Right. Um.

711
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: Initially there was some rumblings about the U a CP

712
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: sort of competing in the end of the United States team,

713
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: which is made up of trade unionists, had black and

714
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: white folks on it. The organizers are actually so invested

715
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: in like um, the I guess including a pressed black

716
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: people from the United States within the remit of people

717
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: who sort of anti fascism wanted to advocate for that.

718
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: They threw this whole Olympics together in like three or

719
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: four months. It was shoestring budget. It's funded by the

720
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: French government, Spanish government, the Catalan government, individual donors, and

721
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: some trade unions from Norway. And they took their very

722
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: sparse money and we're like, we will pay your way

723
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: if you if you're black people from America want to

724
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: come over here, cause we understand its ship over there

725
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: if you want to come and play with us, and

726
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: that's fine, which is cool, Like fuck you to the

727
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: fact that because the whole Olympics is a fuck you

728
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: to to Nazi Germany, right, and so it's cool that

729
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: it also was like and fuck you too. Racism in

730
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: the United States also like I like that, Yeah, and

731
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: like it's also worth noting, actually, look, why are we

732
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: saying fuck you to the Nazis and that like the

733
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: people at the popular Olympics like ran faster, jumped higher,

734
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: worre stronger, like the Olympics are extremely gate kept by class.

735
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: We see that. We see that kind of crumbling like

736
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: with your with your man Jesse Owens and stuff like that. Right,

737
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: but at this point there were still workers sports and

738
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: bourgeois sports and bourgeois sports twins the Olympics, right, Like

739
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: the Olympics still had an amateurism rule. If you got

740
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: paid for exercising, you couldn't go. H So yeah, which

741
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: meant that like working class people, right, like if you

742
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: don't get paid time off, and one gets paid time

743
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: off it's six then they can't go and compete. Right

744
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: Like if even if you work full time and I say, hey, Margaret,

745
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: I'll pay for a couple of weeks, you know, I'll

746
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: make sure I take care of your rents so you

747
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: can go and do the Olympics, Nope, if you run

748
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: a benefit race after the Olympics, they will take your

749
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: medal away. Tom Longboat who they did that too. They

750
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: do that a whole lot to people who aren't white, shockingly. Um, so, yeah,

751
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: Olympics not great. Actually, maybe we'll do a whole left

752
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: bird and the Olympics do some bad ship. But yeah,

753
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: these people come from America right on the team. It's

754
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: Charlie Burley. Charlie Burley goes on to be kind of

755
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: a legendary boxer, right, he's biracial man from Pennsylvania. Uh.

756
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: And Dot Tucker she's a black woman. She ran her

757
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: union in the Bronx and she ran hardromiters as well. Yeah,

758
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: fucking planned that one out. Yeah, I love And they've

759
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: written into the script like planned out. It's good, don't

760
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: we It sounds sarcastic, but I actually mean it really honestly.

761
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: You can appreciate the joy I'm feeling right now. And

762
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: so that games brings twenty thou anti fascist to Barcelona, right,

763
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: and some of them are watching, some of them are competing,

764
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: some of them are staying in hotels. The Hotel Olympic

765
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: is where most of them stay. But they ran of space.

766
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: So about two weeks before the games, they went around

767
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: random houses and we're like, hey, can you have someone

768
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: to stay? So lots of the athletes are just like

769
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: crashing with people. It's kind of cool. If you go

770
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: to the archive in Barcelona, you can see the little

771
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: forms where they go up to a house and be like, okay,

772
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: this person has two beds and they can take care

773
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: of breakfast. And that's two athletes who can stay here.

774
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: They went door to door. Yeah, it's heartbreaking seeing that

775
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: ship and then knowing what happened. Um, I was thinking

776
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: it was like a better way to Um. Yeah, like

777
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: that's what Airbnb should be, you know, yes, yeah, I

778
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: think if the Airbnb, if we compare this to the

779
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: Berlin Olympic village where the Condor legions stayed before they

780
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: headed off to bomb people in Spain, we will see

781
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: that one side is better than the other side. And yeah,

782
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: so these people are staying all across Barcelona, right. They's

783
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: trained in the stadium the day before they distriputed all

784
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: around the city. So in the morning of the these

785
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: are kind of hardcore Catholic conservatives. Um, they report to

786
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: the stand Indario barracks outside of Barcelona. Meanwhile, at the

787
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: pedroal Bes barracks, officers get their troops up, but think

788
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: a four in the morning serve them a ration of

789
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: rum for breakfast and tell them that there's been an

790
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: anarchist uprising in the city that they have to put down,

791
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: and so they send them my right, this is a lie. Yeah,

792
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: the uprising is in fact what they are doing as

793
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: they march into the city. It's telling that they lie

794
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: because the troops are conscripts and are not really brought

795
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: into their nationalist crusade at this point. And it's worth

796
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: always remember, and they're like working class people get trapped

797
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: up in wars, often not by their own choosing. Well,

798
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like how they're like, you have

799
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: to go out and fight Antifa, you have to go

800
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 1: out and do a coup against the United States because

801
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: otherwise Antifa, who are all Stalinists, are going to turn

802
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: the US into the uss are. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's yeah,

803
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: there are there's no parallel. No, that's that's not a parallel. Sorry, Okay,

804
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: it could never happen here, and that's that's our big

805
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: message for today. So these guys they start heading down

806
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Abgnula Diagonal right towards Plastic Cataluniar at the heart of city,

807
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: the cavalry or on a different street, Kara Tarragona. There

808
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: are dragoons on a different street. They leave a little

809
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: later because the Spanish armies something of a clusterfuck, and

810
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: they all plan to join up, but they never did. Instead,

811
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: all across the city, sirens sound the alarm in factories

812
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: and where these troops have been planning to meet up

813
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: with one another. They met up with sniper fire and

814
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: those homemade bombs we talked about. Yeah, yeah, this is

815
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: where ship gets gets good. At the barricades, they met

816
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: men and women with everything from modern machine pistols to

817
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: blunderbusses and slingshots. Yeah, the blunderbusses are pretty cool. You

818
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: can find some pictures. Many troops were forced back into

819
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: their barracks. Some made it as far as a telephone

820
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: exchange and the hotel's riots and cologne in the middle

821
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: of the city. What the troops, who are incredibly poorly

822
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: trained consecuts with little or no combat experience and even

823
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: less willingness to fight, ran into it was the most

824
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: unlikely of alliances. Catalonia's Nationalists had governed the autonomous region

825
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: since the declaration of the Republic in nineteen thirty one.

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00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: They formed a broad leftist alliance called the ESCO Republic

827
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: Canada Catalonia. That means Catalan Republican Left. I was calling

828
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: the e r C to avoid that. It's a bit

829
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: of an alphabet soup, but I'll try and explain where

830
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: I need to. So before the Popular Front existed, they're

831
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: kind of a proto popular front. They could bind the

832
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: liberal and leftist parties who share agreement on autonomous and

833
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: progressive Catalonia. And they tend to be either aligned with

834
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: or to the left of the government in Madrid, most

835
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: often to the left of UM. They don't cover support

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00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: of the anarchists. Right, that's important, um luis compounds who's

837
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: the leader right there, the Catalan leader of the generality

838
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: that at that point has been a lawyer for the

839
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: anarchist before, so he may have more personal support than

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Speaker 1: the party as a whole, hands among the anarchists. UM.

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Speaker 1: For decades, right, the police in Barcelona have acted on

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Speaker 1: behalf of capital against labor. They do violence for the

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Speaker 1: people who aren't stuff against people who make stuff. And

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Speaker 1: even under the Republic, this has continued. Right they had

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Speaker 1: called it the Republic of order, and Margot, I think

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Speaker 1: you covered the like the pistosema right there. The years

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Speaker 1: of the pistol in the nineteen twenties. Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: um it was yeah, they like shooting the anarchists in

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Speaker 1: order to bring about order. They and they it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like a legal thing. They weren't like, oh, is there

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Speaker 1: a egal strategy. It was just like we're in charge,

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Speaker 1: so we will assassinate the anarchists. And then the other

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Speaker 1: thing that like, I feel like it's like we're thinking

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Speaker 1: about because if if someone's hearing, you might be like,

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Speaker 1: why does the government care if the anarchists are on

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Speaker 1: their side? And it's to my understanding and correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. The anarchists are like a huge chunk

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Speaker 1: of the working class of Barcelona at this point, so

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Speaker 1: it's like they actually do care because it's a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge swaths of people. The anarchists by the end of

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Speaker 1: the night will own the city, right, and they have

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Speaker 1: always been the majority of the Catalan working class in

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Speaker 1: this period. They they control the way elections go. Right.

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Speaker 1: When the anarchists abstained, then the right winds when the

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Speaker 1: anarchists they don't say, don't vote, like they don't like

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Speaker 1: they're not like, yeah, I go vote, They're like they

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Speaker 1: don't maybe consider not abstaining, then the popular front winds. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's very funny how they how they use words. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the the anarchists are the working class for the most

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Speaker 1: of the most of the industries, most of the unions

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Speaker 1: are anarcho synicalist. Right, so you don't have support the anarchists,

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Speaker 1: you don't have support the working class. In the twenties,

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Speaker 1: the cops called the anarchists. The anarchists called the cops. Right.

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Speaker 1: This is how we get the famous affinity groups, right

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Speaker 1: Lost Darios, los Quixotes, Delidiale and being some famous ones. Right,

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about them a little bit in the

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Speaker 1: next episode how that works and what they mean. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So ninety one, their declaration of Republic was a massive

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Speaker 1: boost for the anarchists. More people have joined anarchist unions.

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Speaker 1: They felt safe for doing so. Primo de Rivera, the

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00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: previous dictator had been very harsh an anarchists. They actually,

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Speaker 1: briefly in the out job the GAT secured like libertarian

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Speaker 1: socialists and they just took over some towns. Uh and

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Speaker 1: like they they see his weapons from the cops and

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00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: abolished currency for a week and it was just like

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Speaker 1: get it's on it's it's anarchism. And so for five

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Speaker 1: days for goals belonged to the people of the gold.

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Speaker 1: And this is before we're talking about, before the the

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Speaker 1: coup and all of that. Yeah, this is republic begins

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Speaker 1: in n So there's a number of these early on

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Speaker 1: in the Republic, when the state is less violently postured

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Speaker 1: towards anarchism, the anarchists really fucking send it um. You

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Speaker 1: see it in Casas via hearsts, you see in fig goals.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they more people joining because they feel safe

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Speaker 1: for joining, and that leads to more open conflict with

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Speaker 1: the sort of civil order I guess. But with the

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Speaker 1: threat of fascism looming, the CNT establishes defense committees and

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Speaker 1: these become like a quick reaction force for the city. Right,

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Speaker 1: so by the time the troops leave their barracks, activists

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Speaker 1: within the CNT were ready for them. Barcelona's reval, the

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Speaker 1: densely populated district just off the more tourists friendly Rambler

902
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Speaker 1: have become known as a Bari Chines and that means Chinatown,

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00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: not because Chinese people are people of any Asian extraction

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Speaker 1: lived there. That's because they watched gangster movies about Chicago's Chinatown,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, oh yeah, we're we can go

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Speaker 1: that hard. Okay, they just called it that. Chris Elum

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Speaker 1: has a great book on the construction of Chinatown. Now,

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Speaker 1: people have been shooting each other in those streets for decades, right,

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Speaker 1: But for once everyone in the revol was pointing their

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Speaker 1: guns out every balcony, and the raval becomes a sniper's nest,

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Speaker 1: and by the time the sun came up, it was

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Speaker 1: an impenetible fortress of the working class. And at this

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Speaker 1: time the state would find itself begging the anarchist for

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Speaker 1: support and not the other way around. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's maybe where we'll end it today, so that people

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Speaker 1: can be sort of teetering on the edge of the

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Speaker 1: seat to know what happened next. Thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for joining me, Margaret. Would you like to plug anything?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any plug dobles? Well, I have a

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Speaker 1: I think I read that story on this podcast. Um

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Speaker 1: fucking ruin the next episode, because that's what happened as well,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. Well, actually there's a different story

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