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Speaker 1: Are you ready to Witnesses football fans? Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Matt e

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Speaker 1: make it legendary. We're setting you up with the information

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Speaker 1: We're here to break it all down.

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Speaker 1: Look god, this is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff,

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Speaker 1: Here's Brian Nook, former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger,

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Speaker 1: and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 4: Oh, what's going on? Good morning to you, Happy Saturday,

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year, Happy twenty twenty six to you.

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Speaker 5: Hope everything is off to a glorious start. A good morning, Rich,

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Jared Howard things, Happy New Year to you guys.

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Speaker 4: Everything good? Huh? How are we doing?

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Speaker 6: Things? Are good? We Happy New Year? Men.

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Speaker 7: We had the Holiday Bowl here in San Diego last

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Speaker 7: night and your guy was on the call for the game,

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Speaker 7: and it was a little bit of a lackluster first half,

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Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden it became a ballgame

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Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter. But Arizona came on too late

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Speaker 7: for to really be a football game. SMU takes it,

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Speaker 7: but yeah, both teams didn't really look like they wanted

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Speaker 7: to win that one.

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Speaker 2: I had one of the worst gambling days of my

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Speaker 2: life yesterday, and I'll explain it to you in two

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Speaker 2: different avenues. One bad wagers, like I had a couple

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Speaker 2: bad reads. But in the Navy game, I had a

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Speaker 2: Blake Horvat passing yards prop over one oh eight and

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Speaker 2: a half. He was at one oh eight. In the

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Speaker 2: third quarter, Eli Heidenreich dropped two wide open passes. I've

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Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. Like it was like, here's

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Speaker 2: the ball, and it was like it was almost like

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Speaker 2: like you know the commercial where you're like tried to

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Speaker 2: like grab the ball and it like went goes through.

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Speaker 2: It was the most unbelievable thing. And after the first one,

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Speaker 2: I was like, we'll get another one. It's early. Then

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Speaker 2: he got another one and he dropped the second one.

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Speaker 2: It was don't do not ever let anyone convince you

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Speaker 2: that luck is not a major major factor in how

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Speaker 2: your results are every week. Now, I'm not gonna complain

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Speaker 2: that I'm unlucky, because I've got plenty of good breaks

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Speaker 2: throughout both season two. But yesterday was I felt like

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Speaker 2: I was being punished by the gambling gods.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was like one of those days where

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Speaker 2: it's like every little thing that could go, like every

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Speaker 2: coin flip goes against you. That was the day I had.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, I'm doing great happiness.

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Speaker 4: Well, sorry to hear that.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's uh, we're we have to rip the

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Speaker 5: band aid off because don't get no better over here,

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Speaker 5: because Bama did you no solids whatsoever on New Year's Day.

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Speaker 5: And you know, we want to review all of the

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Speaker 5: college football playoff quarterfinal games. And it was crazy, man,

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Speaker 5: because we've had one team that had a buy in

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Speaker 5: the first round win it's college football playoff game, one

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Speaker 5: team out of eight, and that's the Indiana Hoosiers. They're

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Speaker 5: the only team that's had a first round by that

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Speaker 5: has won a college football playoff game. All the other

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Speaker 5: seven teams have lost and the average margin of defeat

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Speaker 5: is nearly two touchdowns. It's thirteen point seven points per

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Speaker 5: game differential. That's what the teams with the buy have done.

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Speaker 5: They've they've gotten beaten by an average of fourteen points

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Speaker 4: And then you have.

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Speaker 5: Indiana is the only team and they crush Alabama by

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Speaker 5: thirty five points.

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Speaker 4: So it's like the old school.

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Speaker 5: One of these things is not like the other the

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Speaker 4: Normally they gave you like a four box. This is

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Speaker 5: And the only thing that is not like the others

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Speaker 5: is the Indiana Hoosiers, who absolutely smoked Alabama. And listen,

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Speaker 2: But for a.

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Speaker 5: Minute, this has been a bloodbath of an argument for

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Speaker 5: the last month and a half, and I just I'm

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Speaker 5: curious what you guys think Obama over there, old fools

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious your thoughts on that squad.

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Speaker 6: I mean, my.

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Speaker 7: Thoughts really haven't changed on Bama the whole season, and

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Speaker 6: Even with the way they lost this game, which was hideous.

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Speaker 7: I meant, getting thirty eight points hung up on you

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Speaker 7: regardless is embarrassing, but then only mustering three points is worse.

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Speaker 7: They just were not competitive, and we could get into

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Speaker 7: the nuts and bolts of the game, but but you know,

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Speaker 7: to speak plainly about what I think of Alabama this

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Speaker 7: year is and and I mean I've.

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Speaker 6: Said this every step of the way. I think Bama's

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Speaker 7: I think it's impossible to look at a team that

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Speaker 7: games as they have. And and I don't know, I

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Speaker 7: don't know how you defend calling them fool fools goal, Brian,

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Speaker 7: I mean.

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Speaker 4: Is it we really doing this? Are we really doing this?

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Speaker 6: Come on, man, I'm just saying. Is it is it

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Speaker 7: I don't know, I mean, is it just you know

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Speaker 7: they they got here on swagger and good looks. I

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Speaker 7: mean the Alabama is is a good football team and uh,

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Speaker 7: and they went up against a great football team and

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Speaker 7: got absolutely thumped. Now again, I think I think the result,

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's not a good result that you don't

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Speaker 7: want to lay down and only up a field goal

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Speaker 6: I mean that that's a bad result. But but you.

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Speaker 7: Know, my, my, my, my feelings on Bama haven't changed.

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Speaker 7: That's a good team and and I think they had

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Speaker 7: some real flaws. And I've been consistent with this too.

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Speaker 7: They have a poor running game, especially compared to years past.

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Speaker 7: With Alabama, My goodness, we're used to we're used to

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Speaker 7: that being the steeple of the offense, the highest point

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Speaker 7: this season. And then you know, you look at you

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Speaker 7: look at what they've they've done defensively, and while they

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Speaker 7: have plenty of good players, I don't think they never

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Speaker 7: they don't. I don't think they have really crested this

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Speaker 7: bad result, good team. Uh, tough season for Debor, especially

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Speaker 6: Get run out of town.

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Speaker 7: Nick Saban has created far too big of shoes for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's changed there again, no jam Miller, no l

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Speaker 2: this argument is how about we give credit to Indiana

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Speaker 2: forgot for crying out loud?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you got to focus on Indiana, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like that, And then That's that's the part of the

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Speaker 2: argument that bothers me here, Brian, Like, it's not there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams that get blown out offense. You're right,

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Speaker 2: look what happened to Oregon. You know, in Texas Tech.

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Speaker 2: I mean we thought, I thought Texas Tech and that

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Speaker 2: And that's what happened to Alabama. You gave a good

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Speaker 2: all the weird stuff, and it just they knew they

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Speaker 2: were overmatched in that game. Indiana was that good. That's

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Speaker 2: how good Indiana was. And that's the part of the

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Speaker 2: argument that we need to focus on because I'm done defending, Like,

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Speaker 2: how long are we going to have this stupid Alabama argument.

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Speaker 2: They were a very flawed football team that had really

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Speaker 2: good players and they peaked in October. That's the story.

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Speaker 2: A lot of teams do that, where they show you

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Speaker 2: their good stuff in October and they don't have anything

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Speaker 2: left down the stretch, and that's what happened. They gave

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Speaker 2: They gave you a little bit of a bounce in

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Speaker 2: that's where the argument now needs to change. Instead of

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Speaker 2: us bloviating back and forth about if Alabama was good

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Speaker 2: or not, can we give Indiana some freaking flowers. Man,

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Speaker 2: this is an unbelie like that was. That game was

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Speaker 2: way more about Indiana than it was Alabama. And I

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Speaker 2: to switch, and we need to really focus on keep

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Speaker 2: with Indiana and Kurtz Signetti is one of the more

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Speaker 2: remarkable things that I've seen in college football. This is

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Speaker 2: Indiana and they are a powerhouse people. This is a

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say like generational type team because

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how good they are yet. We'll

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Speaker 2: I mean I want to say that this team looks

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Speaker 2: it's swagger and mentality, Like they look like that Georgia

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Speaker 2: this And I think Signetti really is the ringleader of it,

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Speaker 2: Like he has this nerd swagger about him that's like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was crazy.

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Speaker 5: It's like Indiana is absolutely the real deal. But two

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Speaker 5: Indiana can be the real deal and you know, Bama

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Speaker 5: can be the epitome of fools gold, Like both are

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Speaker 5: month and a half. That's fine, not shocking, not not

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Speaker 5: shocking at all. But man, the comments that have happened

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Speaker 5: since then. You go back to the game itself on ESPN.

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Speaker 5: This was Chris Fowler and Kirk Kirk Street as the

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Speaker 5: beatdown was taking place, and they just scored a touchdown him,

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Speaker 5: he scored a touchdown. They went up thirty eight to three.

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Speaker 5: That's what the final score was. This is a portion

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Speaker 5: of it from those two my bed here we go,

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Speaker 5: there we go, We're fired up.

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Speaker 1: Now there's Freak's time to fight the one zone.

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Speaker 6: Hella Beeva being humiliated.

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Speaker 5: Then comparison, and then this is funny too. I'm watching

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Speaker 5: the bowl games. It's pretty much the last hurrah of

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Speaker 5: have left. And this was gosh, I'm trying to figure out.

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Speaker 5: So this was Aaron Murray. He was on the call.

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Speaker 5: He's the last voice silk here. This was the Armed

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Speaker 5: Forces Bowl with Texas State beating Rice. This is what

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Speaker 6: With Indiana, that was a team. But I'd not like

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Speaker 2: HEA's Alabama just a championship.

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Speaker 6: Alabama's not very good this year. They have a lot

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just gotta I got a

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Speaker 5: You look at Indiana, they hadn't won a bowl game

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Speaker 4: That's insane.

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Speaker 5: This is the first bowl game they've won since ninety one,

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Speaker 5: right there. And the flip side of it is, you know,

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Speaker 5: You can give Indiana their flowers, and they certainly deserve them.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, I mean, good lord, anybody

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I just think that there's a lot of

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Speaker 7: Now after the loss to Indiana saying, oh, I guess,

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Speaker 6: Now. Don't get me wrong, I give you credit.

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Speaker 6: People who like to pooh pooh.

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Speaker 6: Crow Here's what I feel about it.

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Speaker 7: Look, this is the same team that orchestrated a comeback

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Speaker 7: This is the same team that, while trailing mightily at

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Speaker 7: But I think Indiana beat a good team and I

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Speaker 7: every single time you start discounting them, you know, Big

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Speaker 6: Pedigree and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 7: Well Alabama with all that pedigree just got absolutely stomped

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Speaker 7: give me a break. It's unbelievable what he's been able

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Speaker 7: So Alabama's got a problem now, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's going to go in anywhere.

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Speaker 2: I honestly believe that it got out of hand late. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: That is the story of this game. It is, and Brian,

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Speaker 5: Again, never said they stunk. Never ever, not Once you

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Speaker 5: I grabbed one drop for you. I'll play one drop

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Speaker 2: Whole being the bear my friend.

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Speaker 5: Every opportunity to get it wrong, you keep getting it wrong,

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Speaker 5: and I'm not getting it ever said they sucked getting

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Speaker 2: Up with me. So how can I listen if I'm

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Speaker 4: You did about it that multiple times? Okay, you did

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Speaker 2: Just talk, Brian. This isn't going any This isn't productive.

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Speaker 2: You want to focus on the negative instead of de positive.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem I have with media these days. Instead

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Speaker 2: They lost the football game to a better team. It

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Speaker 6: This year.

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Speaker 2: They are the story. The story out of this game

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Speaker 5: It's not trying to change your opinion on them, it's

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Speaker 4: There's a difference right there.

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Speaker 5: So we go back to this whole thing started, this tith,

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying that their days are numbered. They're a

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 5: And somehow it got like twisted into me saying they

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Speaker 4: I've never said that one.

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Speaker 2: That is a very similar thing that what you're saying, though,

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Speaker 2: it's actually Cerulian. It's not blue. It's Cerulyan. Like okay,

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Speaker 7: And also I think at the heart of this debate,

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Speaker 6: But but the.

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Speaker 7: Difference is, Brian, you are so ardent in defending the

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Speaker 7: you know. I mean, like, it's it's it's just one

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Speaker 2: Of these playoff game on the road down seventeen to nothing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just it's it's it's to me.

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Speaker 7: We may have we may have different and I know

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Speaker 5: It's done it to the time focused on Oklahoma. That's

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, let's do this.

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Speaker 6: Well, Oh, I wasn't.

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Speaker 7: I was saying for Indiana what they were able to

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 7: It is hard to gain any ground or to bail water,

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Speaker 7: my opinion on Alabama, to be perfectly honest with you, slightly.

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Speaker 7: You know, the way they punctuated their season. It's another

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Speaker 7: Indiana is like a steamroller right now. It's like watching

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Speaker 7: that Austin Powers scene where the guard in the tunnel

440
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Speaker 7: is shouting stop with his hand forward and everybody knows

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Speaker 7: what's about to happen, and you're just saying, well, just

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Speaker 7: kind of move out of the way, just do anything

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Speaker 7: other than stand in front of the steamroller. And unfortunately

444
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Speaker 7: nobody can get out of the way. And Kurt Signetti

445
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Speaker 7: he just wins. Google him. I mean, it is an

446
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Speaker 7: unbelievable story for Indiana right now, and it's it's only

447
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Speaker 7: gonna continue, it seems. I'm curious what you guys think

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Speaker 7: about Indiana winning this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that they're the best team, And again, that is

450
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Speaker 2: the story here. And that's why I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 2: we can still go back and forth and argue about Alabama.

452
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Speaker 2: All we want to are blow in the face, Like

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Speaker 2: eventually his argument has to end. There they are who

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Speaker 2: you know, Brian thought that they were good. Job Brian,

455
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Speaker 2: But the story here is Indiana. It is not going

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Speaker 2: to change anything over the course of the next two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Indiana is the real deal, and that is the takeaway

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Speaker 2: from that game. Alabama's not as good as Indiana. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Indiana is the best team in the sport.

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Speaker 5: All right, So more on the first round crazy what

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Speaker 5: that the nightcap? And thankfully we had this on New

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Speaker 5: Year's Day because the first game was a shutout Texas

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Speaker 5: Texas Tech gets waxed by Oregon. I feel so bad

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Speaker 5: for Texas Tech defense. They played great, and the Tech

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Speaker 5: offense was freaking brutal, the Tech special teams freaking brutal.

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Speaker 5: Give Oregon a lot of credit for their defense, but

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Speaker 5: my gosh, I feel bad for Tech's defense. The Tech

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Speaker 5: defense was really really good and deserved a lot better

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Speaker 5: in that game, and they didn't get either from the

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Speaker 5: offense nor the special teams. But the nightcap, and that

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Speaker 5: was the first game, and then Obama gets the doors

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Speaker 5: blown off him only team that got smacked by a

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Speaker 5: team with a first round by only one.

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Speaker 4: Everybody else won.

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Speaker 5: Everybody else won either convincingly or at least one, and

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Speaker 5: Obama was the only one. It gets smacked by five touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: So we needed some drama and we got that in

516
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Speaker 5: the Nightcap Man the Sugar Bowl did not disappoint as

517
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Speaker 5: ole Miss like they had the lead then did it.

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Speaker 5: Then they had to come back at the end. It

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00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 5: was crazy like they had a last minute drive when

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Speaker 5: it was tied and Trinidad Jambliss, my gosh, what a

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Speaker 5: stud This dude throws for three hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 5: yards and some of the plays that he made, like

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Speaker 5: one of the two turning points I think in the game.

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Speaker 5: It was when ole Miss was trailing and it's second

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Speaker 5: and long and it looks like he's gonna get sacked,

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Speaker 5: and he makes a play. He flips it out to

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Speaker 5: Keiwan Lacy. They pick up some positive yards. They set

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Speaker 5: up third and seven and then Georgia has a corner.

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Speaker 5: Bliz Effort is blitzing Chambless and he has to poll

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Speaker 5: a Houdini. He circles back around. He scrambled fifty three

531
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Speaker 5: yards and found his running back Kewan Lacy, who caught it,

532
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: got blasted somehow stayed on his feet, got the first down.

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Speaker 5: They go right down. Chambliss was extraordinary. They score a touchdown,

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Speaker 5: they get the two point conversion. They end up taking

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Speaker 5: a lead, and it looked like that was gonna be it.

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Speaker 5: Here come the Dogs, they come storming back, they tie

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Speaker 5: it up and then Ole Miss gets the last second

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Speaker 5: field goal and it was just tremendous.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Lucas Carnero, that's the kicker of Old

541
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Speaker 5: Miss because he boomed a couple of long field goals

542
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Speaker 5: at the beginning of the game. And I was sitting there,

543
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, this is to win it. This is

544
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 5: a different kick, different pressure, forty seven yards. Let's see

545
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Speaker 5: if that changes anything. And Nope, didn't change anything. Like

546
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 5: right down the middle. What a stud, stud performance by

547
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Speaker 5: Chambliss and also Carnaro their kicker.

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Speaker 4: It's as good as it gets to take down Georgie.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And it took all of that to take down the Dogs.

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00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: That was a That was an instant classic. Man, that game.

552
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 5: That Sugar Bowl.

553
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Speaker 4: More than made up for a couple of blowouts earlier

554
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 4: in the day.

555
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, Trinidad Chambliss, I I mean, look, I Brian is

556
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 7: one hundred percent right about that and everything else.

557
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 6: He's right about everything. Just ask him. But yeah, that

558
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 6: that's good.

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Speaker 4: Take a cheap shot, don't own Bama. Take a cheap shot.

560
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Speaker 6: That's cool.

561
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Speaker 4: You're doing great today, buddy, great shot, Yeah, great job.

562
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Speaker 7: Yes, I don't know, I don't know what you you

563
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 7: want us to do because you right, you guys took

564
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 7: a victory lap after Bamo somehow got assisted with the

565
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 7: wins against Oklahoma.

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Speaker 6: But now, but now.

567
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 5: It's me being right like you guys know you guys

568
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: never take credit for being It's just me.

569
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Speaker 4: It's just me. Go ahead, okay, well show you go,

570
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: keep going.

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Speaker 7: Yeah right, So Trinidad Chambliss played a remarkable game against

572
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 7: an unbelievable team. I really do think that Georgia was

573
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 7: my favorite, uh this whole way.

574
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Speaker 6: As soon as the playoffs got started.

575
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 7: There was something about Ohio State and that Big Ten

576
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 7: championship game that really made me feel like, well, they're beatable,

577
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 7: and they had a little bit of an easier road

578
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 7: during the season than a lot of these teams that

579
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 7: were hoisting onto a platform, and so I thought I

580
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 7: thought differently about them entering the postseason. And then you know,

581
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Speaker 7: you look at the field, Okay, well there's there's Indiana.

582
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Speaker 6: Indiana.

583
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 7: Their their biggest win of the season came in that

584
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 7: big Big Ten championship game against Ohio State. But I

585
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 7: thought to myself, well, but they're still Indiana, And so

586
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 7: there I am with the dogs, thinking to myself, that's

587
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 7: a pretty strong, battle tested team who took their lumps

588
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 7: this season with a tough SEC schedule. Do I believe

589
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 7: in a team more than them? The answer is probably not.

590
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 7: And so what Ole Miss was able to do, and

591
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 7: again without their head coach from the regular season, that

592
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 7: changes a lot.

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Speaker 6: If you're gonna give.

594
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Speaker 7: Any of these teams Kurt Signetti and what he's done

595
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 7: with Indiana, if you're gonna give him credit for the

596
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 7: enormous turnaround, which you should uh for the Hoosiers, if

597
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 7: you're going to give any credit to Kalin de boor

598
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 7: for that unbelievable come from behind win against Oklahoma. I

599
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 7: know two people on this show will I know one won't.

600
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 7: But if you're gonna give credit to good stuff across

601
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 7: college football, it is, uh, it's it's it's going to

602
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 7: be one of those things where you've got to give

603
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 7: this Old Miss coaching staff a tremendous amount of credit

604
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 7: for what they did and what they've been able to do.

605
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 7: Ole Miss went out there missing one of the key

606
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Speaker 7: ingredients to this season, and Trinidad Chambliss took this team

607
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 7: on his shoulders at time and said, hey, I got it.

608
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 6: I got it.

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00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 7: I mean, that's what you need, that's what leadership looks like,

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00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 7: that's that's how that's how ghosts. Sometimes you're not going

611
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 7: to be handed the best situation to win, and I

612
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 7: think Ole Miss really wasn't.

613
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: And I think Georgia is an excellent team.

614
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 7: Like I said, my favorite to win the national Championship

615
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 7: championship this year. And they went out and they found

616
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 7: a way to keep trading punches.

617
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 6: With them and beat the dogs.

618
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 7: So I give a tremendous amount of respect and credit

619
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Speaker 7: to what the Rebels were able to do. That was

620
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 7: an unbelievable watch, but more important, probably the best win

621
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Speaker 7: we've seen this college football season.

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Speaker 2: Outside of Signetti, the best story in college football this

623
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: year is Trinidad Chamblers. This dude was playing at Division

624
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: two Farris State last year and I was fortunate enough

625
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: when I worked in Michigan to cover some Farris State

626
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: hockey and we didn't even really care about football. The

627
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: air hockey teams unbelievable. It is one of the best

628
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: stories in recent memory for this kid to go from

629
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Speaker 2: D two to now playing in the Final four. You

630
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: won't see that jump maybe ever again. Like like this

631
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: is a once in a lifetime kind of thing where

632
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: a kid gets plucked out of Division two, is the

633
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: backup for most of the year. The Simmons situation, you know,

634
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: kind of derailed, you know, got derailed, he got hurt,

635
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: and then Chamblas comes in and it's like, Wow, they're better.

636
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, I think it was early

637
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: in the year when Lane Kiff and he was talking

638
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: to one of the coaches. They're talking to one of

639
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: the you know, reporters on the field.

640
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 6: During a game.

641
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 2: It was early in the season, and they're like, hey,

642
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: what should we be looking out for? And they're like, hey,

643
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: keep an eye if we get this backup quarterback in today,

644
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: keep an eye on this kid Chambless. He's unbelievable. And

645
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, it just he's one of

646
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: the best stories in the sport this year. I was

647
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: totally wrong on Georgia. I don't totally wrong, like I

648
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: thought they were, you know, the most mentally tough team

649
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: in the field, but clearly Old miss is tougher. Clearly

650
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: Old missus tougher because what they were able to do

651
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: and maybe it was a couple of Whodini plays, and

652
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: maybe Georgia really was better for the for the duration

653
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: of that game, but it was just that one stretch

654
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: where Chambliss was kind of like in you know, uh

655
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Speaker 2: nba cham he's on fire, like he just had like

656
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: one or two drives or it was just like this

657
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: dude's unbelievable, and Georgia couldn't match. Georgia could match the

658
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: fact that Georgia had a scoop and score in that

659
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: game was up. It's kind of ironic. They were up

660
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: nine where you know, ole Miss was up nine in

661
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: the first game and Georgia comes back, and now Georgia's

662
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: up nine in the second game and Olemiss comes back.

663
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: But Olmiss being able to overcome a scoop and score

664
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: in that game, I thought again was one of the

665
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: more unbelievable results of bullseason. So you tip your cap

666
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: to Trinidad. Chambliss and Rich mentioned at the coaching staff

667
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: being able to overcome like what Pete Golding's been able

668
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: to do. How ironic is it. It's crystal Ball, it's Golding,

669
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: It's it's Signetti, Like these are all disciples of Nick

670
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: Saban that are making their hay. Same thing with Dan

671
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: Lanning making their hay in the Final four. Like, it's wild.

672
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: How the coaching and just the ability to dig deep

673
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: in these spots where they you don't really think that

674
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna win games. It's truly remarkable. Other than Signetty,

675
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: where it was just you know, belt to ask for

676
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: sixty minutes, those were you know, back and forth games.

677
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: The Texas Deck one, I know got away late, but

678
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: that game was tight early and Baron Morton was just

679
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: so bad. But to me, the biggest story of the

680
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Old Miss game is just how good of a story

681
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: Trinidad Chamblis is. And I don't know if they're gonna

682
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: be able to overcome Miami, but man, this is one

683
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: of my favorite stories of the year in the sport

684
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: of college football.

685
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: That game was just off the rails.

686
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: It's amazing that there were so many monstrous plays in

687
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 5: the second half. Like when they show the highlights after

688
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 5: the game, you're like, oh, yeah, Georgia did have a

689
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 5: scoop six.

690
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 4: And you're like, how could that was a monstrous play?

691
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 5: How could I even It's like you just forget about

692
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 5: that because there's so many huge just outstanding, unbelievable plays

693
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: in the second half, And it blows my mind many

694
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 5: times over where Georgia was zero for seven on third

695
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: down conversions in the second half, Like just think about that.

696
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 5: They didn't convert on third down once and they came

697
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 5: back from a ten point deficit in the fourth quarter,

698
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 5: Like how does that even happen? But I'll tell you what,

699
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 5: man the other turning point in that game, then I'm

700
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 5: all for being aggressive. But it came back to completely

701
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: bite Georgia. It was when it was third and goal

702
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: and you got to be first guessing to be able

703
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 5: to be second guessing.

704
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 4: And it's one of those.

705
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 5: Deals where it's like, if you've got an open receiver

706
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 5: and you want to throw the ball, if he's open,

707
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 5: let it rip. If you're just throwing it and kind

708
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 5: of crossing your fingers and you know, praying that it's

709
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 5: a completion, you cannot throw an incomplete pass.

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Speaker 4: You cannot do it.

711
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 6: Man.

712
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 5: The worst thing that should happen is if the guy

713
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 5: isn't open, you just eat it and you get sacked

714
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 5: and you kick the field goal and you sak over time.

715
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 5: If you run those forty seconds off the clock with

716
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 5: either a completed pass that's short of the goal line,

717
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 5: or you just you eat it and you get tackled

718
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 5: in bounds. The worst case is ole Miss has under

719
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 5: twenty seconds to work with and you're most likely heading

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00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 5: to overtime. You have to at least secure that and

721
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 5: the Dogs didn't. Man, they went aggressive, they threw it,

722
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 5: it was incomplete, and it came back to bite them

723
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 5: in a huge, huge way. That was the difference in

724
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 5: the game. Man, But a classic and Shambliss, my gosh,

725
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 5: that dude. That dude was outstanding and I can't wait

726
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: to see what he does against Miami's pass rush. That's

727
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of fun as well. We'll get

728
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: to that coming up, where it's like, who's gonna be

729
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 5: the assistant coaches in this game. We don't even know

730
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 5: there's six guys that are going to join Lane Kiffin

731
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: at LSU. We don't know if those guys are gonna

732
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: be on the sideline for ole Miss's next playoff game.

733
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Speaker 5: So that's another angle that we'll have to talk about.

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Speaker 5: We've got rich O heron Berger, Penn State All American,

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Speaker 5: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No coming up

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Speaker 5: next to parlay platter, which have one selection for you.

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Speaker 5: We pull it together for a greater pay out. We'll

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Speaker 4: All right, let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Check this out, r late letter.

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Speaker 5: All right, the platter we which have one selection for you.

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Speaker 5: We pull it together for a greater payout. And I'll

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Speaker 5: tell you what we won last week.

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Speaker 4: How about this? Uh yeah, Jared had Penn State beating Clemson.

753
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: Rich You had the under in the Texans Chargers game,

754
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 5: which I don't know what happened to Dick.

755
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 4: Or The kicker is one of the most reliable kickers ever.

756
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Speaker 8: It just like.

757
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 5: Left a field goal and an extra point on the

758
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 5: field and it got there, so good pick by you.

759
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 5: And of course I had I had Indiana smoking or

760
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 5: at least covering the seven against Alabama, and we got

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Speaker 5: they covered laments compliments of Bama sucking out loud right there.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Sorry, I you being dominated. I mean to

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Speaker 4: give credit where credits to or.

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Speaker 6: I know you would never say that Alabama sucks. You've

765
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Speaker 6: never said that.

766
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Speaker 2: I haven't.

767
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Speaker 4: I literally haven't said that. Sure, I've never thought that.

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Speaker 5: But no, No, to start with you, Rich, I'm sorry, we

769
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Speaker 5: start with Drew, Jared, we start with you.

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Speaker 4: What do you think about this parlay platter.

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Speaker 6: Here as real?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we should do something a little different.

773
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Speaker 2: I think we should do something a little different today.

774
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Speaker 2: I think I thought this was a good idea. And

775
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: there's two games left, right, semifinals next week, and I

776
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: thought it'd be fun if we each did our own

777
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: little individual two leg parlay platter for the two teams

778
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: that we think are gonna win the semi finals. Right,

779
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: we won't be on the air again between now and

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00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: next Thursday when the game start, so I thought this

781
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: would be fun. So just give me your two teams

782
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Speaker 2: that you think are gonna win. Put him together into

783
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Speaker 2: a parlay. I heard Rich might be adding some legs,

784
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Speaker 2: but that's you know, he's a he's a he's a

785
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: gun slinger out there in San Diego. So I'm gonna

786
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: go very simpler. I'm gonna go Chalky. I think my

787
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: I think the old miss story is gonna end in

788
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: the semifinals at the Fiesta Bowl. I think Miami is

789
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: the real deal. I think defense wins. I think their

790
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: defensive line, their offensive line. I think they're better in

791
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: the trenches. I think they will be able to squeeze

792
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: trinitat Chamblers. So I'm gonna go Miami at minus one

793
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: seventy five on the money line. And listen, I think

794
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: Indiana's winning the national championship, guys. I mean this is

795
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: their year, and I'm gonna go Indiana on the other

796
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: side of the Beach Bowl. So Indiana Miami on the

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00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: money line. That parlay right now at bet MGM pays

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00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: out plus one forty eight. Not bad for two chalk

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Speaker 2: favorites there in the semis.

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, I have two dogs in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: This this show is named count.

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00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 6: Down to Kickoff, and we are counting down.

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Speaker 7: To kickoff today in the NFL, so I couldn't help myself.

804
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 7: I like the way the Carolina Panthers have played to

805
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 7: close out this season.

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Speaker 6: They go on the road Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 7: I'm taking them plus three or excuse me, I have

808
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 7: taken them on the money line to win this game.

809
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 6: And then the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

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00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 7: I like them against Seattle's defense, really really solid defense

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Speaker 7: by Seattle. But the forty nine ers are red hot

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Speaker 7: right now, scorching earth offensively. If they can muster anything

813
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 7: defensively against Sam Darnold and get him some pressure, then

814
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 7: I think they can win this football game. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: Panthers on the money line, and then the Dogs the

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Speaker 7: Niners on the money line.

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Speaker 10: Nice, all right, if we're doing the college football playoff,

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Speaker 10: I mean, if we're doing a little mini parlay, I

819
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Speaker 10: would go iu money line and I would take the

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Speaker 10: three and a half A fle miss.

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Speaker 5: I just I can't fade Chambless in a spot like this.

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Speaker 4: He's just been too special.

823
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 5: And listen, I know Miami is a nasty pass rush,

824
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 5: nasty defensive line, but if anything, if anybody can can

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00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 5: do work against it, it's Chambless. So that little mini

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Speaker 5: parlay would be ninety one is what you're working with.

827
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Speaker 4: As far as that goes, all right?

828
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Speaker 5: Coming up next this game is the real headlining act.

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Speaker 4: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 5: Happy Saturday to you, Happy New Year. I hope it's

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Speaker 5: off to a fantastic start. We will get to the

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Speaker 5: headlining act here in just a couple of seconds. Throughout

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Speaker 4: Man, I I I'm.

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Speaker 5: Gonna watch all these games, it doesn't matter. But I'm

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Speaker 5: just surprised that I think the real game is Seahawks

840
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 5: at the Niners. Like I get that they would put

841
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: the the facto win and get in AFC North battle

842
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 5: between the the Ravens and the Steelers on Sunday Night football,

843
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 5: But I don't know, man like mid team versus mid

844
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 5: team that's doing nothing come playoff time, That to me

845
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 5: is not as interesting as who's gonna win the end West,

846
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 5: who's gonna be the one seed in the NFC playoffs

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00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: Between the Seahawks and the forty nine ers. Both those

848
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 5: teams have real chances to go far. Both those teams

849
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: have chances to maybe get to the super Bowl, and

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00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 5: who knows what happens if they should get that far.

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00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 5: And so getting the one seed is a major, major deal.

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00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 5: So I mean, you can have your AFC North battle.

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00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: I mean I'll watch it, but that to me is

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00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 5: not the headlining act. That to me is the warm

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00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: up band. That is not the band that you know,

856
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 5: like picture of Seattle and San Francisco, Like, hey, you

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00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: guys ready, thanks for having us tonight here Milwaukee. You

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00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 5: guys ready you ready for Raven Steelers? How you ready

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00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 5: for them to take the stage right now? Like that,

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00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 5: That's not what Seattle and San Francisco should be.

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00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: But that's what the NFL shows.

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00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: That's what is gonna be the headlining act on on

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00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: Sunday Night Football and NBC. It's the battle for the

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Speaker 5: NF for the AFC North. I think it's Seahawks Niners

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Speaker 5: all day.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the bigger game.

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Speaker 6: I'm really excited about this one.

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Speaker 7: And like I said during the two moneyline parlay platter,

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Speaker 7: I'm one of my parlays, or I should say One

871
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 7: of the games in my parlay is this Seahawks Niners game,

872
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 7: and I'm back in the Niners. I just think that

873
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 7: what we've seen offensively from the forty nine ers, granted

874
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 7: against weaker defenses than they'll see against Seattle recently, has

875
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 7: been nothing short of masterful. Brock Purdy is playing like

876
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 7: a man possessed right now. And you know, similarly, you

877
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 7: could say a lot of the same things about Sam Donald.

878
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 7: I think he's more flappable under pressure though, and I

879
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 7: think we saw that in the playoffs last year at

880
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 7: times end of the season last year year with the Vikings,

881
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 7: and we've seen it multiple times this season as well.

882
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 7: There are moments where Sam Donald kind of freaks out

883
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 7: and he reverts to the guy who is a little

884
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 7: bit loose with the football at USC And then obviously

885
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 7: when he came to the league and he played for

886
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 7: the Jets, I mean, he couldn't help himself but turn

887
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 7: it over. And also that was just a poorly ran franchise,

888
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 7: and also he had a bad head coach, and also

889
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 7: and also and also, I mean the chips were stacked

890
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 7: against Sam Darnold early in his career.

891
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 6: But fast forwarding to this moment.

892
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 7: He's led another team successfully to playoff contention and back

893
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 7: to back years as a starting quarterback. Who at you know,

894
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 7: the start of the offseason, he didn't even know if

895
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 7: he was going to necessarily play for the team he's

896
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 7: playing for.

897
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 6: It's unbelievable.

898
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 7: So I love the Seattle story, but I do think

899
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 7: that the Niners are the better team. I think that defensively,

900
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 7: their injuries have mounted this year, but they found a way.

901
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 7: Have they stopped many offenses from doing what they want?

902
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 6: No?

903
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 7: No, But but are they getting healthier down the stretch

904
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 7: of the season.

905
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 6: Yeah. They could have warnerback for the postseason. To what level.

906
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's going to be fifty percent,

907
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 7: sixty percent, seventy percent of his normal play, but it's

908
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 7: got to be be better than what we've seen over

909
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 7: the middle of their defense so far this season. I'm

910
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 7: excited about this game though, to Brian's point, I do

911
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 7: think it's one of the better matchups this weekend in

912
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 7: the NFL.

913
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to, you know, ask if the

914
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: NFL has an East Coast bias. This is the this

915
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: is the example of it. I guess they felt and

916
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: to be perfectly transparent. It is the NFL, not like

917
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: NBC or one of the networks that decides. It's like,

918
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 2: it's the NFL schedule makers that decide where these games are.

919
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: So they they're the ones that decided to put Ravens

920
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: Steelers on Sunday Night. I think it's because they think

921
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna draw better ratings because it's Aaron Rodgers and

922
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: it's an East Coast you know team. I don't know.

923
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: I I agree with Brian, I would have put Seattle

924
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: samis going this spot. But I think it's they just

925
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: felt that it was gonna draw better. That's irrelevant to

926
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: who's gonna win the game. I think it's kind of

927
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: funny these teams last met in Week one. It's been

928
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: a minute since they say last played. The Niners were

929
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: at one point where fave how about that? And they

930
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: won the game, and now flash forward, you know, seventeen

931
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: weeks later, it's Seattle that's the road favorite. So I

932
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: guess that kind of tells you the different routes these

933
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: teams have been on this year. Seattle, though, I'll be honest,

934
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: kind of a tail of two years for them. Weeks

935
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: one through nine. Sam Darnold looked great third and EPA

936
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 2: per drop back, he looked like all the Raids. They're

937
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: running it well, doing all the things since week ten

938
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: twenty first, So over the back half of the year,

939
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: Seattle's a bottom half offense in terms of their passing game.

940
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: I think the Niners offense obviously has been unbelievable since

941
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: brock Perty came back second in EPA per play, second

942
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: in success right second and drop back sixth in EPA

943
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: per rush. Purty is just just throwing bullets man and Shanahan,

944
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: to me, has really understood the assignment light boxes. They're

945
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: running it, heavy boxes, they're throwing it right. Like he's

946
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: letting the defense tate what kind of offense he's going

947
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: to run. When you're gonna give me a light box,

948
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run the ball. When you're gonna give me

949
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: a heavy box, I'm gonna throw it. And I think

950
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of positive vibes for this Niners offense.

951
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: I don't know how good their defense is. I don't

952
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: know if they can hold up. But if you ask me, like,

953
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: let's just go basic handicapping here, right, coach slight edge Shanahan,

954
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: but kind of even but I give Shanahan the slight edge,

955
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: slightest of edges quarterback. I mean, come on, rock Berdy

956
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: has the edge over Donald And I don't care how

957
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: good Donald's numbers have been. But in a tight game,

958
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: who you trust in defense? Obviously Seattle offense San Francisco.

959
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: It feels like this is a very evenly matched game,

960
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: and you're gonna give me two and a half points

961
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: now to bet the Niners at home. And I know

962
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: Seattle might be statistically better their full profile, but I

963
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: feel like this is a very evenly match game, but

964
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: you're giving me an underdog price on the home team,

965
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: and I think, to me, that's really the only way

966
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: you can look at it from a betting standpoint.

967
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 6: I don't.

968
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: I look at it differently just because listen the first part.

969
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 5: I'll agree with you. It's crazy where these two teams

970
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 5: met in week one and now they're meeting in week eighteen.

971
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 5: They're literally bookending the regular season with each other. And

972
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 5: how many times do you see this in the NFL

973
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: where two teams will play each other like two out

974
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 5: of three weeks, so it's like jam packed together. So

975
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: it's so weird that it's the complete opposite with the

976
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 5: Seahawks and the Niners week one and then week eighteen.

977
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 5: That part of it's just funny to me. But what's

978
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 5: interesting to me is Sam Darnald. You go back to

979
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 5: last year. I mean, let's cut to the chase we

980
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: saw week eighteen, same scenario, his team, the Vikings on

981
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 5: the road against the Lions. If the winner winner gets

982
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 5: the one seed and the divisional crown, and Sam Darnold was.

983
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: Brutal, just brutal man.

984
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 5: He had some wide open receivers in the end zone

985
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 5: at times, couldn't hit him, taking sacks. He was just bad,

986
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 5: had terrible performance. And then the next week, in his

987
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 5: only playoff start in his career thus far, he was

988
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 5: even worse against the Rams. He took nine sacks in

989
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 5: that game. And so we've talked about this with Darnald

990
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 5: on the big stage, and man, he wets himself and

991
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: comes up small, and yet his team is favored by

992
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 5: two and a half. So to me, this isn't like, oh,

993
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 5: this isn't just like respect for Sam Darnold. This is

994
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 5: a total lack of respect and rightfully so. And the

995
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 5: forty nine ers defense, specifically their non existent pass rush,

996
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 5: they are dead last in sacks and it's not even close. Man,

997
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 5: they are trailing everybody by a good margin. If you

998
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: just look at the sack numbers and who they're looking

999
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 5: up at, Like, the Niners have eighteen sacks on the year,

1000
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 5: the Broncos have sixty four.

1001
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 4: Now the Broncos are at the top.

1002
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 5: So if you want to look at just who's ahead

1003
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 5: of the Niners, the Jets do the Jets have like

1004
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 5: this crazy pass rush like pin their ears bag, like

1005
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 5: oh gosh, the Gang Green crew is getting after you. No,

1006
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: the Jets have eight more sacks on the season than

1007
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 5: the Niners do. Miles Garrett himself has more sacks than

1008
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 5: the Niners do collectively. So this isn't darnold faith. This

1009
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 5: is a lack of faith in the forty nine Ers defense,

1010
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 5: specifically their non existent pass rush. Now, I give them

1011
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 5: credit to be that banged up, to lose Nick Bosa,

1012
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: to lose Fred Warner, and to be a twelve and

1013
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 5: four football team with the chance to win a home

1014
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: game and get the one seed, that is remarkable. So

1015
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 5: I give the Niners a lot of credit. But it's

1016
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 5: very similar to what's your formula for success? It's okay,

1017
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 5: our defense has to hold on for dear life. That's

1018
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 5: not a good place to start. Our running game has

1019
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 5: been pretty iffy all season long. It's been good lately,

1020
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 5: but against Seattle's defense, if you're not running the ball,

1021
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 5: you're banking on Purty and Purdy's been really really it's

1022
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 5: been great the last three weeks. But if you look closely,

1023
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, it's against the Titans defense, the Colts defense,

1024
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 5: the Bears defense, like this is a major step up

1025
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 5: against the Seahawks defense.

1026
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: So I know, as bad as Sam Donald was in Week.

1027
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 5: Eighteen last season, I think this is a totally different fight.

1028
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 5: Styles make fights, and I'm laying it with the Seahawks. Man,

1029
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 5: I just think they're the better team. I know they're

1030
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: the better team, so I'm taking the better team even

1031
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 5: in a spot like this, I would have agreed.

1032
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 6: With you on the Seahawks earlier in the year. I

1033
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 6: found this stat.

1034
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 7: Over the first nine weeks of the season, the Seahawks

1035
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 7: ranks second in EPA per dropback, with Sam Donald having

1036
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 7: sixteen touchdowns and just five interceptions, with that outstanding twenty

1037
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 7: one to four. Actually, I don't want to get into

1038
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 7: the advanced analytics. We'll leave it there. Since week ten,

1039
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 7: they've fallen to twenty third in the league. So that

1040
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 7: EPA per dropout was outstanding, one of the best in

1041
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 7: the league, and they've dropped to twenty third. Now, why

1042
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 7: has that happened? Well, In my opinion, this is because

1043
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 7: of Kubiak's offense. It's not simple, but it is predicated

1044
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 7: around some simple formulas that I think defenses have finally

1045
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 7: caught up to. He uses a tremendous amount of heavy personnel.

1046
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 7: They are reliant on those deep play action pass routes.

1047
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 7: They're gonna try to surprise you by taking shots downfield,

1048
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 7: and Sam Donald is plenty good enough to connect with

1049
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 7: players downfield. But if you can if you can stop

1050
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 7: the run against Seattle using either a lighter box or

1051
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 7: not committing too many bodies to the line of scrimmage

1052
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 7: where you don't have to be in man all the

1053
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 7: time and you could have some deep support in zone coverage,

1054
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 7: you can stop some of those deep throws, those chunk

1055
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 7: plays that Sam Donald really hung his hat on through

1056
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 7: the first nine weeks of the season. Since Week ten, again,

1057
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 7: they've dropped to twenty third on EPA per drop back

1058
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 7: because they're not as efficient when Sam Darnol drops back. Now,

1059
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 7: a lot of defenses know what's coming and they can

1060
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 7: see it, you know, whether it's tells or tenancies with

1061
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 7: personnel groupings, whether it's formationally on certain down and distances.

1062
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 7: Tendencies are a hard thing to break, especially when you've

1063
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 7: had success doing that. And Gary Kubiak, I mean he's

1064
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 7: doing or I should say the offense is doing a

1065
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 7: great job. The play calling has been good for most

1066
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 7: of the season, but it has come back down to

1067
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 7: earth and they haven't adjusted yet. Now you talk about

1068
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 7: San Francisco's defense, can they stop it? That remains to

1069
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 7: be seen. They've been playing hurt and injured and haven't

1070
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 7: been playing well down this stretch games, but their offense

1071
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 7: is on fire.

1072
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 6: So in this.

1073
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 7: Situation where I can nitpick both sides and I can

1074
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 7: find reasons to make an argument against who do I

1075
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 7: trust more? Well, I do? I do trust Rock Purty

1076
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 7: more in bigger game. I absolutely trust Kyle Shanahan in

1077
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 7: these regular season games. In the postseason, little bit of

1078
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 7: a different story with Kyle Shanahan, and we can have

1079
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 7: that discussion plenty, But in the regular season he's proven

1080
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 7: to be able to come up clutch in these moments.

1081
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 7: And then in terms of Sam Darnold, Yeah, we saw

1082
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 7: late season collapse last year. What's to say that that

1083
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 7: isn't kind of the modus operandum. Until he breaks that tendency,

1084
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 7: we'll see and.

1085
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: That's the whole thing, right, Like Brian mentioned it, like

1086
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: the game last year against the Lions in the final

1087
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: week of the year, what was the storyline at the

1088
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: end of last year with the Detroit Lions. Their defense

1089
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: is banged up. They can't do anything defensively, can't rush

1090
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: the pass or can't stop the run.

1091
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 6: Dated.

1092
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: Okay, in that Week eighteen game, they figured out to

1093
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: way to hold Minnesota to nine points in that game,

1094
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 2: and then they got absolutely blasted in the divisional round

1095
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: by Jade Daniels, like destroyed complete belt.

1096
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 6: To ass.

1097
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: I've I've seen this story before and it kinda is

1098
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: in a weird way what we just saw in the

1099
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: Orange Bowl between Texas Deck and Oregon Texas Tech's defense man, jeez,

1100
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: I mean that front four was unbelievable, but they could

1101
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: not overcome Baron Morton. It didn't matter how good the

1102
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: defense was, they could not overcome poor play at the

1103
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: quarterback position, and I'm not gonna make that same mistake

1104
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: again where I'm going to bank on the defense to

1105
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: do the scoring. And I don't think Texas Tech's defense,

1106
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: or I should say, I don't think Baron Morton is

1107
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 2: as bad as Sam Darnold is, who's still a very

1108
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: adequate quarterback in the NFL. But there's just something about

1109
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: this time of year where he turns into a pumpkin

1110
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: man and he I can't I can't, like, rightfully, in

1111
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: my right mind, I can't risk my money on him

1112
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: knowing that I'm gonna be watching him and he's gonna

1113
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: make one of those frantic throws that's gonna wreck the game.

1114
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: And maybe he doesn't, maybe he you know, figures it

1115
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: out and any you know, if he fools me in

1116
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: this spot, I'll tip my cap to Sam Darnold. But

1117
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: I just saw this in the Orange Bowl two days ago,

1118
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 2: where the Texas Tech defense, just like the Seahawks defense,

1119
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: is a lights out unit. Eventually, if your offense continues

1120
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: to struggle, the dam will break. And I think that's

1121
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 2: where I really struggle with getting to Seattle in this spot.

1122
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 5: Hey man, I get it, and it's the NFL Man,

1123
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 5: would it be crazy if the Niners won a home

1124
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 5: game as home underdogs.

1125
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 4: No, it wouldn't.

1126
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 5: But man, I just think that although we've seen this

1127
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 5: movie before, it could absolutely be a different movie this time,

1128
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 5: you know. And I look at it this way too,

1129
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 5: And it's gonna be difficult because it's like an NFL

1130
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 5: college thing.

1131
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 4: It's you know, but I think you'll understand what I'm saying.

1132
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 5: The forty nine ers defense in the NFL, with all

1133
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 5: their injuries, all their deficiencies, it's not the same thing

1134
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 5: as Oregon's defense college football.

1135
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1136
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 5: Like as bad as Baron Morton was, he's facing a

1137
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 5: real defense. Like Sam Donald is going up against the

1138
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 5: defense that is held together with duct tape, and it's

1139
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 5: like the mcgiver defense, you know.

1140
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 4: It's like, Hey, give me a corner.

1141
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 5: Give me some toothpaste, and give me some silly string,

1142
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 5: and I'll figure a way to get some stops and

1143
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 5: like we can string together a win over here. Like

1144
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 5: that's what the Niners defense is. And I also think

1145
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 5: like there are two ways this is gonna go. Either

1146
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 5: Sam Donald, you know, starts this game off and something

1147
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 5: goes bad and it just snowballs, and it's just like

1148
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: the Lions game last year, or against a defense that

1149
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 5: doesn't have a pass rush that has deficiencies. Sam Donald

1150
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 5: is well aware of what happened in Week eighteen. He

1151
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 5: really wants to rewrite that whole narrative and not have

1152
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 5: that play out again. And this dude is focused, he's sharp.

1153
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: He looks worlds better than he did last year in

1154
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 5: the same spot against a much lesser defense.

1155
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 4: That's how I see it.

1156
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 5: Man, I just think that collectively, the Seahawks are the

1157
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 5: better squad. They have the better defense, they have a

1158
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 5: comparable running game. Neither of these running games are any

1159
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 5: good throughout the course of the season, and man, I

1160
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 5: just think that going with the better defense is the

1161
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: way to go. And that could end up being wrong

1162
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 5: because easily in this game you could see, well, at

1163
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 5: least like if you just look at offense versus offense,

1164
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 5: you gotta like what the Niners bring to the table

1165
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 5: more than the Seahawks. But the problem is the Seahawks

1166
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 5: offense is going up against the Niners defense. The Niners

1167
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 5: offense is going up against the Seattle defense. That's the thing,

1168
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 5: and that's why styles make fights.

1169
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if you want to take a spread

1170
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 7: either way, like you said, and I agree with it.

1171
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 6: It's the NFL. Anything can happen.

1172
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 7: Can the Seattle Seahawks win on the road, you know,

1173
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 7: in a game where they're pretty closely matched with their opponent, Yeah,

1174
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 7: of course they can.

1175
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 6: Can Sam Darnold end that playing an exceptional game? Yeah?

1176
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 6: And could honestly could it be his defense that lets

1177
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 6: him down?

1178
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: Sure?

1179
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 7: I mean the results are wonky in the NFL because

1180
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 7: these guys are all pros. Everybody's getting paid out there,

1181
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 7: and you know, sometimes we see aberrant things because any

1182
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 7: given Sunday, any given Saturday, you can have a player

1183
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 7: or a couple of players make standout plays and it

1184
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 7: could be the result that or it could or it

1185
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 7: could really spin the result into something you didn't forecast. Now,

1186
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 7: if you want a really good sweat, because look, I

1187
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 7: like the Niners on the money line, you like taking

1188
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 7: taking the points with or or given the points with Seattle, Brian,

1189
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 7: this is the sweat taking the under here because you

1190
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 7: have this forty nine ers defense that's broken and battered,

1191
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 7: but a predictable Seattle offense that has way come back

1192
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 7: down to work the final weeks of the season.

1193
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 6: You have this red hot forty nine ers offense.

1194
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 7: But as you pointed out, Brian, I mean, they're going

1195
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 7: against a really really sound defense. And when they've gone

1196
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 7: against really really sound defenses, they've struggled against the worst

1197
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 7: defenses in the league and some of the worst defenses

1198
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 7: in the league, which is some of the recent games

1199
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 7: they've played, they've had a tremendous amount of success. But

1200
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 7: against the Browns, the Browns outgained them in that game.

1201
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 7: The Browns held them to four yards per play in

1202
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 7: that game against the Carolina Panthers perty through three interceptions.

1203
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 7: You know, so against some of the better defenses they've faced,

1204
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 7: prety struggled, and this offense has struggled to put up points.

1205
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 7: So if you want a real good sweat on this one,

1206
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 7: the under is in play.

1207
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 6: Even though it doesn't seem like that should be, it

1208
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 6: absolutely is.

1209
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: I agree, actually, especially because if you are Kobiak and

1210
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: Frankly Darnold you want to avoid what happened last year,

1211
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: well just don't throw it that much, right, like run

1212
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: the ball too very capable backs. You think your offensive

1213
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: line is good enough to block this Niners defensive line.

1214
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: In fact, when we get to the prop it up

1215
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: segment in about twenty minutes. I've got a prop that

1216
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: is aligned with this thinking. I won't give it away.

1217
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: I will tease that segment at the end of this hour.

1218
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: You'll have to tune in for that bet. But there

1219
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: is a very strong vibe to me here. Of let's

1220
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: for Seattle. I think the Niners are trying to extend

1221
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: this game as much as possible and keep their defense

1222
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 2: off the field as much as possible. But for Seattle,

1223
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: you're trying to run the rock Man like you're trying

1224
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: to grind this game out. You don't want rock Party

1225
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: on the field. You know that is the stronger unit

1226
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 2: for San Francisco. Well, what's the best way to keep

1227
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: the Niners offense off the field. It's Charbonnet, It's Walker,

1228
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: it's run, run, run, maybe play action off of it.

1229
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: Hit JSN over the top, get your tight ends involved.

1230
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: But it is not spread it out, throw the ball

1231
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: fifty times. That is not the recipe for Seattle in

1232
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: this game, because a you want to protect Darnold from

1233
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: making that big mistake. But be you want to keep

1234
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: that Niners offense off the field. You know if the

1235
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: Niners offense off the field. Their best player, their best

1236
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: unit is on the sidelines. So that would be my

1237
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: strategy is how can we shorten this game. We're on

1238
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: the road, We're in a hostile environment. Everything is at stake.

1239
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, the swing in Super Bowl odds for this

1240
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: game is massive. You go from one seed home field

1241
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: to five seed playing a road game for the entire

1242
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: postseason unless you get some craziness and you know, the

1243
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: lower seeds win late. But I think this is a

1244
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: very easy strategy in terms of how can we protect

1245
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: Sam Darnald, And it's very simple.

1246
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 5: Run the rock well, and that's the thing that's the

1247
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 5: counter to it for the Niners. Defensively, it's don't let

1248
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 5: them run the rock, right geezer said, than done, But

1249
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 5: this is not a dynamic seattle rushing attack. Don't let

1250
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 5: them run it effectively. Make Sam Darnald beat us, and

1251
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 5: then don't let Jackson Smith and Jig but kill us. Like,

1252
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 5: make it be Cooper Cup Rashid Shaheed the tight ends,

1253
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 5: like make them earn it that way. But JSN, if

1254
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 5: they get burned by JSN, they should be bracketing him,

1255
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 5: doubling him. This should be a Belichick special. Right, you're

1256
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: gonna have to beat us with your secondary punch. It's

1257
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 5: not going to be JSN. That should be the deal

1258
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 5: with the forty nine ers, but we'll see how it

1259
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,600
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Speaker 5: Happy New year to you as well. Okay, in terms

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Speaker 5: of the two college football playoff games we have on

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Speaker 5: deck and also Week eighteen, if you put it together

1295
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 5: in one big clump, what would be like the top

1296
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 5: need and the second biggest need for BETMGM.

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Speaker 8: I'd say the the biggest need for the NFL slate

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01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 8: today that we have right now, it's looking it's very

1299
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 8: close between the Niners outright and the Panthers plus two

1300
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 8: and a half. A lot of money have come in

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 8: on the Seahawks to win the game, and a lot

1302
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 8: of money's come in on Tampa Bay to cover two

1303
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 8: and a half. So right now, as the stands, those

1304
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 8: are the two biggest needs right now.

1305
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me too much. Maybe a little maybe

1306
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: a little bit Seattle San Francisco, but the Carolina Tampa one.

1307
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like people just are loving to

1308
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: fade Bryce Young, but I don't get it. I mean,

1309
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: Carolina has looked good over the last couple of weeks.

1310
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: With the college will playoff, you get the opening numbers,

1311
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: did you guys see a big push right out of

1312
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: the gate? How has the cadence been for these semi

1313
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: final games? I know the public typically bets late, but

1314
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: because of the grand nature of the games, did you

1315
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: get a lot of early action once the lines dropped

1316
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: the other day?

1317
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Speaker 3: A lot of money has come in on Indiana minus four,

1318
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 3: A lot more than I really expect at this point

1319
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: of any opening game, even the college football playoffs semi final.

1320
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 3: But a lot of love for Indiana after what they

1321
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 3: kits Alabama last week.

1322
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Speaker 8: And Miami too. Miami, you know a good shunk. Money's

1323
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 8: coming on them at minus three. Line did move to

1324
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 8: minus three and a half, so we did move off

1325
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 8: that number, but it's early. Love for the favorites next week.

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01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 6: Get back to the NFL, Seamus, You know I do

1327
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 6: this all the time with the end. I think it's fun.

1328
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 6: Talk me off of this if you want to.

1329
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Speaker 7: All right, San Francisco forty nine Ers, Seattle Seahawks. Obviously

1330
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 7: Seattle a little bit of a struggling offense, forty nine Ers,

1331
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 7: big time, banged up defense. I feel like the Unders

1332
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 7: in play here right now. Bet MGM has it at

1333
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 7: forty seven and a half. I called it probably the

1334
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 7: best sweat of the weekend, or at very least today.

1335
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 6: If you want to take it, I don't know.

1336
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 7: If I can, but maybe with the little X you're

1337
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 7: urging from, Seamus, if you think that's the smart play here,

1338
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 7: I don't know. Under the forty seven and a half

1339
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 7: total in the Seattle Seahawks forty nine Ers game.

1340
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 8: I definitely see the argument for the under. These divisional games,

1341
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 8: you have to get real tight, you know, even with

1342
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 8: a lot of injuries and with so much at stake today,

1343
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 8: I'm fifty to fifty on that one. Yeah, really close one.

1344
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 5: All right, Seamus Man, I'm an NFL junkie. I'd love

1345
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 5: to ask you fifteen NFL questions. But I mean at

1346
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 5: college football playoff games on deck here, you know, Thursday Friday,

1347
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 5: who do you like the most if you go with

1348
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 5: you know, aside in either of the two games or

1349
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 5: a total in either of the two games. Is there

1350
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 5: anything that you really like?

1351
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 8: At this point, I can't get off this whle mistrain

1352
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 8: kind of Miami looked awesome last week, one of the

1353
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 8: best games you'll see a team play this year. But

1354
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 8: I mean Shambliss, I think he's been great all year.

1355
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 8: I think he's a few games away, a couple of

1356
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 8: games away from being on the stage for the Eisen Trophy.

1357
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 8: But I really like Ole Miss plus three and a half.

1358
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 8: I think Indiana minus four is probably a right play.

1359
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 8: I wasn't super impressed with. I mean, the defensive Oregon

1360
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 8: looked really good against Texas Tech, but I mean Texas

1361
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 8: Tech was surprisingly in this game in the fourth quarter.

1362
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 8: I just think Indiana is too good. But I think

1363
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 8: o Miss could surprise the people next week as well.

1364
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how much of the Orange Bowl

1365
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: was good Oregon or bad Baron Norton? Yeah, I think

1366
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: he was so bad? Like that was one of the

1367
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 2: worst quarterback performances at the Orange Bowl I've seen since

1368
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 2: Drew Rowler last year. Sorry, I had to go there,

1369
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: all right. The biggest like WTF line of the week

1370
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Speaker 2: in the NFL for me is this Chicago Detroit game.

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Speaker 2: The Lions have been awful down the stretch of the season.

1372
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Speaker 2: The Bears need this game because if they lose, then

1373
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the Eagles can steal the two seed,

1374
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: and based on how the playoffs have shaken out, I

1375
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: would not be surprised if those two teams play each other.

1376
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: And home field obviously matters. So the Bears need this game.

1377
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: They're an eleven win team, they're the NFC nor champs,

1378
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,879
Speaker 2: They're at home against the Lions. It's a Ben Johnson

1379
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 2: revenge game, and Chicago can't get off of a three

1380
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 2: point favorite. Like, how much is the market disrespecting Chicago

1381
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:26,919
Speaker 2: in this spot, Seamus?

1382
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 8: There only would appear that there's a lot of disrespect,

1383
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 8: and I mean public has taken a stance on the

1384
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 8: Bears minus three. We'll probably gona end up needing the

1385
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 8: Lions because of all the stats they you mentioned there,

1386
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 8: But I mean the Bears, they're the luck box team

1387
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 8: this year. They've had the proverbial horseshoe up the rear

1388
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 8: end all season long, every game that goes down to

1389
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 8: the last play with this team, and they've been on

1390
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 8: the right side almost every time outside of the Niners

1391
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 8: game last week. But it's I think that's why you

1392
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 8: see the line like that. This is it looks like

1393
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 8: this is the luck box.

1394
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Speaker 7: Team this year last one for me Seamus on college football.

1395
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 7: In this playoff practice, we have remaining you know, I

1396
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,919
Speaker 7: know results matter, So this is kind of an unfair question.

1397
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 7: But if Oregon wins, if somehow they and somehow they're

1398
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 7: a good team. But if Oregon beats Indiana, who do

1399
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 7: you think wins the national championship?

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Speaker 8: I'd have to pick Miami at that point. I think this,

1401
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 8: I mean, I just I did just say that. I

1402
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 8: like all this next.

1403
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: Week, but.

1404
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 8: I really think Miami is that good. I think I

1405
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 8: like Miami more than I like Oregon. To be fair,

1406
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 8: I don't know what it is about Oregon, Like this

1407
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 8: team feels different than last year's team that you know

1408
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 8: went undefeated. I just think Miami defense I like a

1409
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 8: little bit more than Oregon. And I think Carson Beck

1410
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 8: has got you know, a lot of disrespect this year.

1411
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 8: I don't know it was fully deserved.

1412
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 5: Interesting, all right, Seamus, that's that time, Seamus Special. We

1413
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 5: roll out the red carpet, so you can roll out

1414
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 5: the red carpet. What do you have for us, buddy?

1415
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 6: All Right?

1416
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 8: College football is almost coming to an end. We got

1417
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 8: to start, you know, honkering down on our college hoops

1418
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 8: before March Madness. We're gonna go with East Texas A

1419
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 8: and M plus seven and a half at Nickels State

1420
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 8: formerly Texas A and M Commerce.

1421
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 5: Okay, all right the artist formerly known as love That

1422
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 5: all right beautiful Seamus.

1423
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 4: Well, hey, good luck.

1424
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 6: With that play.

1425
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 5: I'm sure plenty of people will tell you they make

1426
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 5: money doing so. And I hope you have a great

1427
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 5: rest of the day. Man, Thanks for the time. We'll

1428
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 5: catch it soon.

1429
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 8: Thanks guys, having you here.

1430
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 6: Same to you. There.

1431
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 5: He is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports Trading at BEDMGM.

1432
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 5: We just have a couple of minutes. I gotta sneak

1433
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 5: this in. Man, there's something I absolutely hate. You might

1434
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 5: understand where I'm going with this. This transfer portal window, man, yep,

1435
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 5: it's open right now from January tewod to the sixteenth.

1436
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 5: And you look at the ripple effect with Ole Miss

1437
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 5: in particular two stories. One their quarterback who's now the backup. Now,

1438
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 5: Austin Simmons was the original starter, he got hurt, and

1439
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,879
Speaker 5: now Chambliss is just all world right. So Austin Simmons

1440
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 5: is like, I think I got to find a new home.

1441
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 6: Man.

1442
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm getting on the field anytime soon.

1443
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 5: This chambless guy, my gosh. So he's planning the transfer.

1444
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 5: It might be him going to Missouri, but he's planning

1445
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 5: to stay with Old Miss throughout the college football playoff.

1446
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 4: And it's like, wait a minute.

1447
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 5: The window closes on January sixteenth, the championship game. Should

1448
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 5: Old Miss win their next game, the championship game is

1449
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 5: January nineteenth, So we got the window closing on the sixteenth.

1450
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 5: Championship game is the nineteenth. I don't know how Austin

1451
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 5: Simmons is gonna be able to stay with Old Miss.

1452
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 4: I don't even know how that works.

1453
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 5: But what I do know is I'm guessing that Austin

1454
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 5: Simmons doesn't want to be a distraction and would rather

1455
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 5: not announce that he's transferring while the college football playoff

1456
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 5: is going on. But this is the only time he

1457
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 5: can do it. This is the only movie he can make.

1458
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 5: They has to say, yeah, I'm planning to go elsewhere

1459
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 5: while they're in the playoffs. And the other part of

1460
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 5: this is we mentioned it briefly, but we don't know

1461
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 5: if six assistant coaches on the old Miss staff are

1462
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 5: gonna be on the sideline for their next game. Those

1463
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 5: six guys are going to LSU to join Lane Kiffen,

1464
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 5: and we don't know if, like the offensive coordinator Charlie

1465
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 5: Weiss junior, the passing game coordinator Joe Cox, we don't

1466
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 5: know if they're gonna be on the sideline for the

1467
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 5: next game. The Rebels might not have their OC. This

1468
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 5: window has to be moved, man. There has to be

1469
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 5: a better solution where you have NFL free agency going

1470
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 5: on during the NFL playoffs, right, Like that's what you

1471
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 5: have in college football. The NFL would never do that.

1472
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 5: They've got to find a better way than this.

1473
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I completely agree with you, and so I think

1474
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 7: what we're all or we all should be rooting for.

1475
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 7: Is that the worst case scenario happens for ole Miss honestly,

1476
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 7: that they lose a lot of players in the portal,

1477
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 7: you know, backups or guys or you know, despondent with

1478
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 7: their standing on the team and wish they had a

1479
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,799
Speaker 7: bigger role and are chasing some huge dollars nil wise.

1480
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 7: You know, these coaches, many of them leave in a

1481
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 7: mass exodus and sort of leave Ole Miss for debt. Now,

1482
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 7: I don't wish that for any fan base. I don't

1483
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 7: obviously wish that for these Rebels players who have done

1484
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 7: an incredible job this season, answering the call at every turn.

1485
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 7: But unfortunately, I don't think anything's gonna change until there's

1486
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 7: a huge impetus for change and there's a huge reason

1487
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 7: and almost like the the catalyst for that change.

1488
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 6: And I think it would have to be something that dramatic.

1489
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 7: I think, based on clearing house and transfer rules and

1490
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 7: you know, the semester and the and and the way

1491
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 7: the way new students get added to roles as a

1492
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 7: result of these not being professional athletes but student athletes.

1493
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 6: It's gonna take something dramatic for all of this to change.

1494
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 7: And I don't necessarily think that's the only thing that

1495
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 7: needs to happen for it to change. I completely agree

1496
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 7: with you, Brian. It's it's a broken system, and you

1497
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 7: can't blame any player for chasing huge amounts of money

1498
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 7: in the transfer portal. But it doesn't feel good, it

1499
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 7: doesn't feel right. It feels the same as any of

1500
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 7: these coaches who switch teams, you know, while their teams

1501
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 7: have postseason or bowl game aspirations.

1502
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's really no argument for it. Frankly, I don't

1503
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: know what we do to fix it, but there is

1504
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: no argument for the current calendar as constructed. It just

1505
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: seems like everyone's waiting around for someone else to do

1506
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: something about it. I don't even know who would be

1507
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: the person or the entity to fix it. It just seems

1508
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: like it is just like it's like that scab that

1509
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: won't heal that you just keep picking like nobody. I

1510
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: don't like who would even be Like is there's like

1511
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 2: a this is why they need a college sports commissioner,

1512
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: Like I don't know who even would fix it? Like

1513
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: how do we even fix it? Like what is even

1514
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: the source of the problem? How do we fix the

1515
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: con I have no idea, but I agree that it

1516
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: needs to be changed. I just don't know how to

1517
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: fix it.

1518
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:09,840
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Speaker 2: Shoddy Clayton Johnson is the running back in an I formation.

1540
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 6: Stone Evie is the full back. I like under center Kevin.

1541
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 4: Jenny skips with the Stone Evey running right on.

1542
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: Pushed into the end zone by shoddy Clayton Johnson.

1543
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 4: Touch that SVW. There you go.

1544
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 5: There's a rich Phillips from lear Field, which gives you

1545
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 5: an idea the quality of the bowl games. Yesterday, Hey,

1546
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 5: shout out SMU taking down Arizona.

1547
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, it's why did they have these.

1548
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 5: Bowl games after the playoff games? We have four playoff

1549
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 5: games in a row, and then we get like, you know,

1550
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 5: the Liberty Bowl and the Armed Forces, But what are

1551
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 5: we doing here? But hey, I just think you're putting

1552
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 5: those teams in a bad spot.

1553
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 4: But that's just me. All right, let's get to this

1554
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 4: prop it up player plays. All right, prop bets galore, Jared,

1555
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 4: we start with you. What are you like?

1556
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: Well, if the goal today is for Seattle to win

1557
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 2: a football game on the road and get the number

1558
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 2: one seed, I think the best way to do that

1559
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 2: is to protect your pumpkin of a quarterback of Sam Donald.

1560
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 6: How do you do that?

1561
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: Well, just don't throw it a whole lot. So let's

1562
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 2: go under thirty and a half passing attempts for Sam Donald.

1563
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: First of all, he's gone under this in four of

1564
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: the last six. And if we do think Seattle is

1565
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: going to be in a positive games grip, they are

1566
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: favorite on the road the market thinks are.

1567
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 6: Going to win.

1568
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: I would not allow Sam Donald to throw it forty

1569
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 2: times today. That is not the recipe for Seattle to

1570
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 2: win this game. So I think it is going to

1571
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 2: be more of a conservative game plan, especially on offense

1572
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. You don't want to put Donald in

1573
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: a bad spot. So I think under thirty and a

1574
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: half passing attempts for Donald minus one ten odds at

1575
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 2: bet MGM, very good price, best price in market. I

1576
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: would bet that today my favorite prop bet of the day.

1577
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 7: Okay, I am going to take Rock Parties interception over all. Right,

1578
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 7: So obviously for Brockferdy to throw an interception on BETMGM,

1579
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 7: it's a half interception, you got to pick over or under.

1580
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go over on this.

1581
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 6: It's it's it's minus one fifty five on the half.

1582
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 6: Here's the funny thing about it.

1583
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 7: He's averaged just over a interception per game. He's had

1584
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 7: two in the past two weeks, I think, like you said,

1585
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 7: Seattle is probably gonna be in a positive game script

1586
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 7: for most of the game.

1587
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 6: Forty nine Ers could find themselves chasing points.

1588
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 7: You've got seventeen interceptions generated by the Seattle defense over

1589
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 7: the course of the season, so I think he's primed

1590
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 7: for the fucking year.

1591
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 6: Give me the over on the.

1592
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 7: Half interception thrown by Brock Perdy in the forty nine

1593
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 7: Ers sex pretty pick.

1594
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm pretty alrighty, I get it, it could easily happen.

1595
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 6: Give me.

1596
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick at the same game.

1597
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 5: Wow, I didn't know what we were gonna do this,

1598
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna go with Christian McCaffrey, who I think

1599
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 5: very very highly of, But I think more highly of

1600
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 5: that Seattle rush defense. So I like CMC under sixty

1601
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 5: six and a half rushing yards. Seattle has the third

1602
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 5: best rush defense in the league, and so I just

1603
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 5: don't see CMC. They're gonna get him involved in the

1604
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 5: passing game. That's where I see him making an impact.

1605
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 5: He's been a phenomenal receiver all season long. The receiving

1606
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 5: yards has made a huge impact for this Niners offense.

1607
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 5: So I think he's gonna be a bigger weapon when

1608
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 5: it comes to that. But in terms of just straight

1609
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 5: running the football, I don't see a big impact from

1610
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 5: McCaffrey today. So I will take the under sixty six

1611
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 5: and a half rushing yards for him.

1612
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 7: See mc Yeah, I think that that's a solid guest.

1613
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 7: We could actually partner ours for a same game parlay.

1614
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 6: There you go.

1615
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: How about that. I did not expect all three of.

1616
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 4: Us toms years without the SGP. I like it right,

1617
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 4: Coming up neck my favorite bet of the entire season.

1618
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 4: Oh what is going on? Happy Saturday to you, Happy

1619
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 4: Week eighteen to you. Heck, Happy New Year to you.

1620
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 5: You know, we're just checking boxes here with happiness, is

1621
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 5: what we're doing on today's show. All right, we get

1622
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 5: to week eighteen and we get a doubleheader today in

1623
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 5: the NFL, two really good games. And I'll tell you what, man,

1624
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 5: this is my favorite bet of the entire NFL season. Wow,

1625
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 5: And it is the Carolina Panthers plus three. I also

1626
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 5: love him win the game outright, But you're giving me

1627
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 5: three points. I will happily take it. And to me,

1628
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 5: I'm curious how you guys think about this game. But

1629
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 5: to me, this goes beyond like the x's and o's,

1630
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 5: beyond just the football stuff. Right, we could go back

1631
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 5: and forth and we will with well, when you know

1632
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 5: Tampa's secondary is iffy and Carolina's pass game is if

1633
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 5: he But you know, I give the advantage here and

1634
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 5: you could go through all the football stuff that you

1635
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 5: want to me.

1636
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 4: It goes beyond that.

1637
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 5: If you look at Tampa Bay, they have lost seven

1638
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 5: of eight games, and I think what we do when

1639
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 5: we're like looking at the next game, I think we

1640
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 5: overlook what that has felt like for the last two

1641
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 5: months for Tampa Bay.

1642
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 4: Think about that. It is a whole process.

1643
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 5: Rich can talk about this more than anybody on this show,

1644
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 5: obviously being a former NFL player.

1645
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 4: It's a process to gear yourself.

1646
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 5: Up right, Like you gotta get your body right, you

1647
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 5: gotta get your rehab right.

1648
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 4: You're nursing these injuries, you banged up.

1649
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 5: This is week eighteen, you know, and you're gearing up

1650
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 5: week in and week out in the second half of

1651
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 5: the season.

1652
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 4: It is lost, all right, Let's get him the next.

1653
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,919
Speaker 5: Time here, Get my rehab, get my sleep, get my nutrition,

1654
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 5: Let's let's do it. Loss, Like the weight of losing

1655
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 5: is like being in the sauna for the last two

1656
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 5: months and they're just trying to just snap out of it.

1657
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 5: I don't see it happening. And I grabbed some audio

1658
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 5: for you guys. No, it's not me, you know, this

1659
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 5: is different audio. It's Kevin Garnett. Yeah, this is me

1660
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 5: from earlier today. Babbit doesn't suck. Yeah yeah, right, well

1661
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 5: I never said they suck, you guys, don't.

1662
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:56,919
Speaker 4: So Kevin Garnett.

1663
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 5: Remember KG when he was with the Timberwolves, he did

1664
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 5: this interview.

1665
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: I will never forget.

1666
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 5: He did a sit down interview with John Thompson, right,

1667
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 5: former Georgetown head coach, and uh Thompson was with John

1668
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 5: Thompson was with TNT at the time. And KG does

1669
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 5: this interview and he's so emotional, and I think this

1670
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 5: is exactly how it feels for Tampa Bay. Right, Listen

1671
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 5: to KG. Listen to the pain of losing.

1672
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 4: Check this out.

1673
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 6: What's driving you? You play hard and I'm losing. I'm losing.

1674
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 4: I'm losing, right, you can feel the pain. I'll give

1675
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 4: you one more. This is only like twenty seconds. Check

1676
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 4: it out.

1677
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 5: More from KG and the pain of losing. What that

1678
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 5: feels like week in and week out the pain.

1679
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 6: It's getting me up all hate that I'm liking just

1680
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 6: in front of you right now, Man, I respect you

1681
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 6: for showing these emotions. I don't just respect you one bo.

1682
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 7: You're putting the burden of his team on your shoulders,

1683
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 7: aren't you?

1684
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 6: Like?

1685
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 5: The last part of that that's losing in a nutshell

1686
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 5: is this.

1687
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 4: It's it's like it just takes the life out of you.

1688
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 5: And that's where I start with this is if you

1689
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 5: look at both teams, Tampa losing seven of eight, and

1690
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 5: look at these losses, man, like, I'll shut up in

1691
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 5: a second.

1692
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm taking this much time.

1693
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 5: No, no, no, take your time, like you look at

1694
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 5: what they've done. They lose to the Patriots, right this

1695
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 5: is Week ten. This is what started the losing streak.

1696
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 5: They're at home, they lose to the Patriots. Remember Trayvon

1697
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 5: Henderson had a couple of long runs. They lose a

1698
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 5: close game, then they lose to the Bills. They give

1699
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 5: up forty four points to the Bills. Then they get

1700
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 5: smacked by the Rams thirty four to seven. On Sunday

1701
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 5: Night football. They don't even feel that good. They squeak

1702
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 5: by Arizona, who's greasefire twenty to seventeen. Then they lose

1703
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 5: to the Saints. They somehow lose to the Falcons when

1704
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 5: they had a big lead at home on Thursday night,

1705
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 5: they lose to the Panthers. They lost to my Dolphins

1706
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 5: last week. With Quinn Yours on the field. They are

1707
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 5: just losing and losing and losing and losing. And that

1708
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 5: feels like walking around with the squat rack on your

1709
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 5: back and your legs are just buckling under that. That's

1710
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 5: what I see from Tampa. I don't see them pulling themselves.

1711
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 4: Out from this.

1712
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 5: It'd be fitting if Tampa won, and you know, like

1713
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 5: Atlanta wins, and you've got three teams that are eight

1714
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 5: and nine in the NFC South, no one has a

1715
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 5: winning record. But I just see Carolina winning this game,

1716
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 5: and I love them plus three.

1717
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 7: You know, I have no idea how much football you've

1718
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 7: played in your life, Brian, but that was extraordinarily poignant

1719
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 7: and really well put about losing, especially.

1720
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 6: The process of football. You're waiting a week for your

1721
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 6: next appointment. You don't get to go out there in

1722
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 6: game two of a three game.

1723
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 7: Series and dust off the last one after a couple

1724
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 7: of beers and some cold ones and maybe even going

1725
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 7: out with some of your opponents, like baseball players get

1726
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 7: to do or in the NBA, hey man, that was

1727
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 7: a tough one, and yeah, we're on the road, so

1728
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 7: we got long travel back. But then you gear up

1729
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 7: for a practice the next day, and then the next

1730
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 7: night you're hosting another Western Conference team and off to

1731
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 7: the races you go. I mean, forty eight hours, you

1732
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 7: get to flush it. With football, it is a seven

1733
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 7: day process. Sometimes you play on a short week and

1734
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 7: then it's a ten day process until the next opportunity.

1735
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 7: I mean, it is brutal when you're going through it

1736
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 7: the way the Bucks are going through it.

1737
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 6: And you heard KG and I think it's smart to

1738
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 6: play that that sound.

1739
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 7: Because losing is so disagreeable to his system.

1740
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 6: It makes him cry. Okay, the greats have that reaction.

1741
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 6: Like do you remember.

1742
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 7: How mad Jordan would be after losing or a losing streak.

1743
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 7: He would be incensed, you know, I mean his face

1744
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 7: would contort, Kobe, Kobe, his face, he would it looked

1745
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 7: like he was chewing iron nails after losses, like he

1746
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 7: was just his mouth would move around uncomfortably as he's answering,

1747
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 7: you know, questions from media members he actually likes, and

1748
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 7: they're asking good questions about what's happening and what's wrong

1749
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 7: and take us inside the locker room. And he didn't

1750
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 7: want to deal with it. All he wanted to do

1751
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 7: is get out there and correct what was done. You know,

1752
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 7: the greats have this horrible disagreement with losing. Tom Brady,

1753
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 7: Peyton Manning normally pretty jovial, nice guys. You get them

1754
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 7: on a losing streak.

1755
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 6: My god.

1756
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 7: I mean the feeling of foreboding in the room when

1757
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 7: they would take the podium. I mean, playing with Tom

1758
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 7: Brady for three seasons, I saw it. I mean I

1759
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 7: didn't see a lot of it because we were we

1760
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 7: were good teams. You know, we went out there and

1761
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 7: we want a ton of games. But if you ever

1762
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 7: had a tough stretch man, it wasn't fun to be

1763
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 7: around that building in New England because Tom Brady and

1764
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 7: that staff especially. But Tom did not like to lose.

1765
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 7: And so that's true with the Greats, But what about

1766
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 7: the rest of them? Okay, because that locker room's filled

1767
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 7: with a lot of people you got to depend on,

1768
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 7: and there are certain people in locker rooms, even at

1769
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 7: the professional level, who just sort of get used to

1770
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 7: the status quo. Well, I guess we aren't that good. Well,

1771
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 7: I guess this season is over. Well, I better start

1772
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 7: making my plans for that flight to Can't Kun.

1773
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 6: I'm not even kidding, like.

1774
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 7: Those sort of conversations start entering the fold. I've been

1775
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 7: in the hot tub with guys who were talking about

1776
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 7: vacation plans while we still have a chance.

1777
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 6: It's hard.

1778
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 7: It's hard to play in the NFL, and it's hard

1779
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 7: to keep yourself up and positive.

1780
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 6: It's hard. And so I'm with you.

1781
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 7: Look, I took in our parlay platter earlier Carolina on

1782
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 7: the money money line because I think that's a motivated

1783
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 7: team going against the team who may have some of

1784
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 7: those doom sayers.

1785
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 6: And and and and and I'm not gonna call them

1786
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 6: there do wells.

1787
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 7: They're they're well intentioned football players who are trying their

1788
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 7: hardest still, but in the back of their mind they've

1789
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 7: lost the hope and they've lost And when you lose

1790
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,799
Speaker 7: hope on the journey, when you lose the belief behind

1791
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 7: the journey, you're on, man, You're not gonna make it.

1792
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 6: You're just not gonna make it.

1793
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 7: So I think you hit a lot, You pressed a

1794
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 7: lot of the right buttons there, Brian, Because Tampa Bay,

1795
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 7: can they turn it around in this game? Absolutely? Could

1796
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 7: they shock us all? Absolutely? But do I think they will? No?

1797
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 6: I don't.

1798
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 7: I feel like I feel like this this season might

1799
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 7: be in the books Jens and and I feel like

1800
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 7: they they've they've pretty much. I mean, I'm sure there's

1801
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 7: certain guys who have already packed up their rental houses.

1802
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 7: They're ready to get out of Tampa. I mean, that's

1803
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 7: just the way it is at the end of seasons

1804
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 7: that look like this. So, yeah, that's a that's a

1805
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 7: really strong argument you just made about the Buccaneers.

1806
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: I hate losing more than I want to win. That

1807
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 2: was my favorite line in the movie milley Ball. Yeah,

1808
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,799
Speaker 2: with Brad Pitt right about Billy Bean and the Oakland

1809
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: A's and the moneyball. You know, just a awesome line.

1810
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 2: I think Jalen Hurts said that at some point too.

1811
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 2: It's very uh like our natural like our brains always

1812
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 2: gravitate towards the negative when things start going wrong. It's

1813
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: never rarely. It takes a certain level of you know,

1814
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 2: mental strength and fortitude to say I'm going to turn

1815
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 2: this around like it, and how how often I'll put

1816
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 2: it in an average Because I never played in the

1817
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 2: nfl R, I don't have that bad experience. But how

1818
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: often are you wagering on a game? You have a

1819
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 2: bet going on a certain game, and then one thing

1820
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 2: goes wrong and then another thing goes wrong. And it's

1821
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 2: not even things that you know are like you know, layering,

1822
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 2: things are just like little little edges, like you know,

1823
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: you get one bad break and another bad break, and

1824
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 2: then your brain immediately goes towards I can't win, Like

1825
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm losing.

1826
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 4: Right, I can't buy one, Yeah, can't buy one.

1827
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 2: That's how I felt yesterday, gambling right, like Eli Heidenreich

1828
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: drops two open, wide open passes, like can't get my

1829
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Blake quarterback passing yards prop across the finish line he

1830
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: loses by the hook, Like it's just like and in

1831
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 2: my mind, I'm like always it's negative, Like it's just

1832
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 2: our brains just gravitate towards the negative because it is

1833
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: just human nature for us to do that. And if

1834
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 2: you don't think these athletes are humans, well then you're

1835
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 2: not watching the same sport that I am, because their

1836
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 2: brains work the same way. That ours do, and it

1837
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 2: is hard to turn it around. It takes a very

1838
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 2: strong grit and determination to turn that around. Now, I

1839
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 2: will argue that Baker does have that attitude, and if

1840
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 2: there is one guy who can maybe turn it around

1841
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 2: for the Bucks, it is Baker. But but then I

1842
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 2: start to look at the numbers, and I start to

1843
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 2: look at the analytics, and I start to look at

1844
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 2: some of the the baseline metrics that he's put forth

1845
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 2: over the last few weeks. The Bucks offense has just

1846
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: fallen off a cliff and the metric that I look

1847
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 2: at the most that I think is very telling about

1848
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 2: maybe there's an injury or maybe there's something else going

1849
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 2: on with Baker. His catchable pass rate, which was over

1850
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: fifty percent through the first six weeks of the year,

1851
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 2: is now down to twenty seven percent since Week seven.

1852
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 2: Like he is not throwing catchable passes, which tells me,

1853
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 2: and he's a usually pretty accurate quarterback, that tells me

1854
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 2: that there's something else going on. Maybe it's his mechanics,

1855
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 2: Maybe he's overcompensating for another injury. Right, it was one shoulder,

1856
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: and when one you know part of your body is hurt,

1857
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 2: you overcompensate by trying to throw a different way, like

1858
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 2: we saw that happen. There's quarterbacks right when you get

1859
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 2: you know, if your one left leg is hurt, you

1860
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 2: try to overcompensate throwing you're right, Like we saw this

1861
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: with John Mattier a little bit throughout the course of

1862
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 2: his injury with his thumb, Like all of a sudden,

1863
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 2: your mechanics get all thrown off. So I don't know

1864
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 2: what it is, but his mechanics, his ability to throw

1865
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 2: catchable passes has just plummeted over the last two months.

1866
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 2: And unless he turns that around today, I don't know

1867
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 2: what else to say. I mean, it does seem like

1868
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 2: the Bucks offense strainding out. Maybe their defense pulls it

1869
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,480
Speaker 2: out here, like maybe this is just a really grinded

1870
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 2: out defensive game and Todd Bowles pulls a rabbit out

1871
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 2: of his hat and Bryce Young makes a big mistake

1872
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 2: and Tampa Bay's able to pull it out. But if

1873
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 2: you're looking at their offense and what Baker's been able

1874
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 2: to do, it just seems like there's something wrong with

1875
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 2: his delivery, his mechanics, something's going on behind the scenes,

1876
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 2: because his overall efficiency has plummeted over the last two months.

1877
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it's it's one of those deals where you're

1878
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 5: looking for small edges because this is a divisional game.

1879
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 5: These are two pretty evenly matched teams, So you're looking for,

1880
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 5: like what could make the difference. Hey, like you just said, Jared,

1881
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 5: maybe Bryce Young stinks it up again. He had fifty

1882
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,799
Speaker 5: four yards against the Seahawks last week. Fifty four yards

1883
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 5: and he looked bad. It was a bad interception to

1884
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 5: Julian Love like he had a tear. Could he have

1885
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 5: another stinker? This is a much lesser pass defense, But

1886
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 5: could he have another stinker? Absolutely he could. So yeah,

1887
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 5: we're not saying no chance, no how with Tampa. But

1888
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 5: when you're looking for small edges. The interesting thing to

1889
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 5: me with Tampa, we've said it, they've lost seven of

1890
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 5: eight games. If you look at the last ten games

1891
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 5: for Carolina, they've gone win loss, win, loss, win loss

1892
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 5: every week the last ten games. They have a one

1893
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 5: game losing streak in that span.

1894
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 6: That's it.

1895
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 5: Like they haven't lost two straight games in the last

1896
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 5: ten that they've played. That makes a huge difference. Like,

1897
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 5: these aren't robots, these are human beings. And when you're

1898
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 5: talking rich about Jordan and Kobe and these competitive maniacs.

1899
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 5: What it feels like to just lose a game, let

1900
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 5: alone seven of eight games in the NFL. That's like

1901
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 5: dog gears compared to NBA games, you know what I mean, Like,

1902
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 5: it feels like way more than that what you put

1903
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 5: into it, what you're not getting out of it. It

1904
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 5: like like Baker Mayfield last week against the Dolphins. He

1905
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 5: was on the bench at one point in the game

1906
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 5: and it looked like like it was the aftershot of

1907
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 5: someone just coming up and punching him in the stomach.

1908
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 4: They're just like, hey, Baker, wamn. I mean, he's like, oh,

1909
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 4: he's just sitting there on the bench.

1910
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 5: It's the emotional pain of losing and losing and losing

1911
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 5: some more. And that's the edge to me in this game.

1912
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 5: Like Tampa if they're down by seven, that's much different

1913
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 5: losing seven of eight than Carolina down seven on a

1914
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:40,799
Speaker 5: one game losing streak.

1915
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 6: It's night and day, man, It's it's so true.

1916
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 7: And then also you gotta flip it around, like, say,

1917
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 7: Tampa at some point during this game is playing with

1918
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 7: a lead, Like how much more important that lead is

1919
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 7: to Tampa than it is to Carolina. You ever, you

1920
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 7: ever hear the line, you know, this is more like

1921
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 7: when you're dating, almost like when you know and it's

1922
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 7: been a long time for me, I've been married for

1923
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 7: a long time. But like you can't over pursue, right,

1924
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,839
Speaker 7: because you'll scare them off.

1925
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 6: Right, you know that?

1926
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 5: Like, but I love her, you're right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1927
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 5: but everybody.

1928
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 2: For all three of us, I've been there.

1929
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, look this this is usually advice for guys,

1930
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 7: but there are some some ladies out there in the

1931
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 7: audience listening who are probably nodding along with us, where

1932
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 7: they fell in love with a guy and they texted

1933
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 7: him too much and scared him away, or they started

1934
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 7: talking about commitment too soon, or you know, with a guy,

1935
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of times where you're feeling

1936
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 7: all these emotions and she's completely unsure about you, and

1937
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 7: then you say the wrong thing or you call too

1938
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 7: much whatever it is, like like sometimes when you really

1939
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 7: care about something, you screw it up because you're over

1940
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 7: concerned about losing it.

1941
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,679
Speaker 6: And so Tampa also playing with a lead.

1942
01:36:57,479 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 7: I mean, all of a sudden, you're like, oh my gosh,

1943
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 7: it's we've been waiting for this moment and it's like

1944
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 7: you start doing too much, you know, and that can

1945
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 7: happen too.

1946
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 6: Look, I've been there.

1947
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 7: I know how it feels on a football field when

1948
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 7: you're like, we are a bad team, we have no

1949
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 7: business being in this game, and you screw it up

1950
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 7: because you start either believing you better than you are

1951
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 7: or or trying to do too much because you're overcompensating.

1952
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 7: I've also been on great teams where you know you

1953
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 7: can look past opponents and things like that, and you

1954
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 7: know you get into the other side of that too.

1955
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 7: What's easier being a great team playing down or being

1956
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 7: a bad team trying to play up? Trust me, every time,

1957
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 7: it's easier to be the great team playing down because

1958
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 7: you can reverse cores and it's easy to revert back

1959
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 7: to the meme, which is you're a great team before

1960
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 7: before bad team playing up. What's the mean what's the

1961
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 7: regression to the meme? Well, it means you can play

1962
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 7: some pretty bad football at some point in that game.

1963
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think this is I mean, look, if

1964
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 7: there's anybody right now listening to us who are like, like, man,

1965
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 7: I'm all over the bucks. We're not trying to talk

1966
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 7: you out of it.

1967
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 6: We're not.

1968
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 7: It's just that's that's just that's just the feeling I

1969
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 7: personally have. Clearly you guys share a lot of it too.

1970
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 7: It's it's it doesn't feel right for the Bucks in

1971
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 7: this spot.

1972
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think under is my stronger lean of the

1973
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 2: game between the two sides. I think based off of

1974
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here, like let's try to apply

1975
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 2: this into a gambling wager, Like both of these teams,

1976
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 2: especially Tampa feels like they're walking on eggshells. Carolina probably

1977
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 2: feels like they're the better team. Like if I'm coming

1978
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 2: into this game and I'm Carolina, You're probably you probably

1979
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 2: feel a little bit disrespected. You're like, wait, maybe we

1980
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 2: just beat Tampa. We were an underdog in that game.

1981
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 2: Now we're an underdog again in Tampa. Stinks like what's

1982
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 2: going on here? And if you don't think these guys

1983
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 2: know the points bread? They they know what the points

1984
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 2: bread is going in every game. They know if they're

1985
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 2: supposed to win or supposed to lose. They use it

1986
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: as motivation very often. But I think the better betting

1987
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 2: in this game, Like I think you give Tampa a

1988
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 2: little bit of an edge for being at home, you

1989
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 2: give them a home field, but Carolina is clearly playing better.

1990
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 2: So that's why we're at three, and we're kind of

1991
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 2: drifting on and off the three. Right, I see some

1992
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 2: two and a halfs and then it gets me back

1993
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 2: to three. It looks like the market says Carolina plus

1994
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 2: three Tampa Bay minus two and a half. It looks

1995
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 2: like that's the sharp angle in this game. So it

1996
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 2: feels like the side's a pick them. But I do

1997
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 2: think on the defensive side of the ball, especially for Tampa,

1998
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 2: if they're looking at Baker Mayfinx and Art like Baker's obviously,

1999
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 2: this offense is kind of a shell of it's a

2000
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 2: Tom Herself like, we're not We're gonna have to play

2001
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 2: the game of our lives. And if you're Carolina and

2002
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 2: you did what you did last week with Seattle and

2003
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 2: it just was it was a disaster, maybe you're trying

2004
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: to shorten this game. And I think Carolina, if you

2005
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 2: ask me what the strength of this Carolina team is

2006
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 2: on the offensive side, I think it's Rico Daddle and

2007
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 2: Chewba Hubbard. I think it's run the ball, I think,

2008
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 2: and I think Daubtle's one touchdown away from a big incentive,

2009
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 2: so they're gonna try to get daddle the rock, and

2010
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 2: I would say that would be my lean gambling wise

2011
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: in the game where I think the side is price

2012
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 2: pretty well between Carolina and Tampa. Like I think Tampa

2013
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 2: deserves to be the favorite, but not a significant one.

2014
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,600
Speaker 2: I think three is war will Land. But to me,

2015
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 2: the under in the game, especially like a Bucks team

2016
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 2: total under which I think is twenty three and a half,

2017
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 2: I think that would be my preferred wager in the game.

2018
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 2: Like if you're looking at fade Tampa in this game,

2019
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 2: but you're like, you know what, I don't fully trust Carolina,

2020
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: I would say the under on Tampa's team total because

2021
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 2: I would be very shocked if both of these teams

2022
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 2: spread it out open it up air a today, Like

2023
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 2: it is just getting across the finish line, getting that win,

2024
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 2: getting into the clubhouse, and then the irony is with

2025
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 2: this game, Brian. Even if Tampa wins the game, yeah,

2026
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 2: the weird fluky tiebreaker scenario, they might not even be

2027
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 2: in the playoffs because of the Atlanta New Orleans game

2028
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Atlanta has to lose. So let's say Tampa

2029
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 2: wins if Atlanta wins on Sunday, all three teams Carolina, Atlanta,

2030
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 2: Tampa will all be tied at eight to nine O

2031
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: top the standings, and the three way tiebreaker goes to Carolina.

2032
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 2: So not only does Tampa have to win the game,

2033
01:40:58,560 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 2: but they also need New.

2034
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 6: Orleans to win.

2035
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 2: And they're a big under not a big but a

2036
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 2: three and a half point underdog on Sunday. So there's

2037
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: like another layer to this that is completely out of

2038
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 2: the Bucks hands and that probably makes them feel even

2039
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:09,799
Speaker 2: more helpless.

2040
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 5: You know, I'll say this super fast because we got

2041
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 5: to go, but I almost never do this with a

2042
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 5: football game.

2043
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 2: Man.

2044
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 4: I'm all about you know, x's and o's edges, like

2045
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 4: football stuff.

2046
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 5: I take the football stuff in this game Carolina and Tampa,

2047
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 5: and it's almost like throwing out the Christmas tree out

2048
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 5: the front door. I'm just like, way, just heave it

2049
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 5: on LA, all right. That's that, Like, that's how I look.

2050
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 5: This is psychology to me, man. The psychological ed edge

2051
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 5: by Miles is with Carolina because they haven't lost seven

2052
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 5: of eight. And to your point, Rich, it made me

2053
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 5: think of one thing real fast. Steve Fisher, former head

2054
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 5: basketball coach at Michigan and then also at San Diego State.

2055
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 4: Spent a lot of years at San Diego State.

2056
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 5: But the thirty for thirty, the doc that was the

2057
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 5: Fab five about the five great freshman at at Michigan

2058
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 5: and they lost the title game back to back years.

2059
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 5: He had a great, great example and painted a picture.

2060
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 5: He was like, it was almost like our hand was

2061
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 5: out and there's a feather falling in the air, and

2062
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 5: instead of letting it fall in our hand, we're like

2063
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 5: grabbing it and trying to and it's causing the feather

2064
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 5: to fly away even more. And that's that's probably how

2065
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 5: it feels for Tampa Bay right now. It's hard to

2066
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 5: just relax. You want it so bad that sometimes you're

2067
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 5: getting in your own way and weird stuff is happening

2068
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 5: because you're pressing to a fault. That's what I see

2069
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 5: from them, and that's why I'm happy to fade them

2070
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 5: in this spot.

2071
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 6: Man.

2072
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 5: I just I just don't buy the spot for Tampa.

2073
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 5: But we'll see, we've got go ahead. Oh sorry, I

2074
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 5: was just gonna back up your point.

2075
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, there are plenty of people who

2076
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 7: can talk with their friends and they're really good. They're

2077
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 7: really good conversationalists, but you put them in front of

2078
01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 7: a crowd, they clam up like because all of a sudden,

2079
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 7: the energy of the moment just consumes them. That's what

2080
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 7: I think of when it's like stage fright, when you're

2081
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 7: having a tough time and you go out there and

2082
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 7: you're trying to do something you do all the time.

2083
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 7: Like everybody can talk. It's just right now, I'm having

2084
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 7: a hard time talking. Man, That is Tampa Bay because

2085
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 7: they can play football. All those guys are pros. Yeah,

2086
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 7: but it's like when the time comes on Sunday or

2087
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 7: Saturday in this case, but when the appointment time comes,

2088
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 7: for whatever reason, it's been going wrong and that's a

2089
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 7: hard mental hurdle or clear no doubt.

2090
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,839
Speaker 4: That's rich O Wenberger, Penn State All American.

2091
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,479
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2092
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2097
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:59,040
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2098
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 5: team doing special things when we look into the crystal ball.

2099
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 4: We'll get to that coming up.

2100
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:06,000
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2112
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 5: I'm just like, I'm in autopilot mode, like doing some

2113
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 5: fill ins for FSR over the last week. I was

2114
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,240
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2115
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,559
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2116
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:47,759
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2117
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,600
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2118
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2119
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 6: Man.

2120
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 4: I'm like, sorry, my bad, whoops.

2121
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 5: All right, we've got We got college football playoff games

2122
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 5: around the corner as well. And if you look at

2123
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 5: these games IU minus four against Oregon Ole Miss, well,

2124
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 5: I should say we'll go with a favorite, Miami favored

2125
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 5: by three and a half against Old Miss. And when

2126
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 5: you start to break these games down, the first thing

2127
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 5: I think of is what's going on with Old missus

2128
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 5: coaching staff?

2129
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 4: Like is their offensive coordinator going to be coaching in

2130
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 4: this game?

2131
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 8: Right?

2132
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 5: Like six assistants are following Lane Kiff into LSU, and

2133
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 5: LSU is like, hey, we got this thing called the

2134
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 5: transfer portal, right, Like the window is open right now.

2135
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 5: We kind of need our staff to be our staff

2136
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 5: and like do their due diligence and you know, like

2137
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 5: fight for LSU.

2138
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 4: So it's a whole thing.

2139
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 5: Right now, we're still in a holding pattern, Like are

2140
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 5: these assistants gonna be there for Old Miss We don't

2141
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 5: even know that yet. Chambliss has been electric and man

2142
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 5: IU is a freaking wagon right now. So to go

2143
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 5: up against Oregon again, you look at the initial game

2144
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 5: or Oregon had a tough time against the pressure of Indiana.

2145
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 5: They got to the quarterback, they affected the quarterback Dante

2146
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 5: more So, if it's you know, no pun intended. If

2147
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 5: it's more of that, that's that's gonna be tough for Oregon.

2148
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna count them out at all, But man,

2149
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 5: Indiana just looks like whoa, that looks like a runaway

2150
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 5: freight train. The way they're playing right now and the

2151
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 5: way they played the whole season.

2152
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 7: Really truly, you know what, it's the only fourteen zero

2153
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 7: team in the country and deservedly so, and Kurt Signetti

2154
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 7: deserves a tremendous amount of credit, you know. To me,

2155
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 7: this is a little bit of you know, style make fight,

2156
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 7: Styles make fights. In terms of Oregon Indiana, I look

2157
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 7: at it as as a little bit of that elite

2158
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 7: speed and efficiency is sort of the hallmarks of the

2159
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:59,839
Speaker 7: Oregon Duck season versus the discipline and really the physical

2160
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 7: of the Indiana team that we've seen all season long.

2161
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,799
Speaker 7: That is probably one of the most under heralded parts

2162
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 7: of Who's your Football is the fact that they're just

2163
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:11,600
Speaker 7: more physical than you are.

2164
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 6: And it's hard.

2165
01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 7: It's hard to remember that because I think when you

2166
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 7: think of Indiana, you think of the pushovers of yesteryear,

2167
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 7: and the only way they're gonna really win big games

2168
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 7: is to be gimmicky or to beat you with trick plays,

2169
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 7: or to find a way and be scrappy. And also

2170
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 7: the story of Kurt Signetti, he's kind of pulled out

2171
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 7: of the mud. You know, he comes there from James Madison,

2172
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 7: and you're just expecting, well, this guy's just gonna he's

2173
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 7: gonna find a way through you know, trick ration and

2174
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 7: scheme to just outscheme you.

2175
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 6: And that is not the case.

2176
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 7: Now, don't get me wrong. The scheme works, and Mendoza

2177
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 7: is a talented quarterback. He's been winner all the things. Yes,

2178
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 7: But also they're just a big physical bunch of dudes

2179
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 7: who want to rough you up the trenches.

2180
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 6: If you pay attention to the line of scrimmage in

2181
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 6: Indiana games.

2182
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 7: Those are a bunch of bad dudes on both side

2183
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,839
Speaker 7: of the ball with bad intentions, and they are messing

2184
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 7: you up on play after play after play. They're they're

2185
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 7: taking it one down at a time. And so I

2186
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 7: really think that this is an interesting matchup. Now we

2187
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 7: could get to Ole Miss in Miami, and I think

2188
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 7: that's plenty interesting too, But but styles make fights.

2189
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 6: I'm really excited to see this matchup again.

2190
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 7: Because I'm curious if it looks the same way it

2191
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 7: did or if we're going to see a different result

2192
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,600
Speaker 7: than we're going to see Oregon sort of find the

2193
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 7: CounterPunch they couldn't come up with the first time round.

2194
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pressure was through the roof. To be fair,

2195
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 2: they had Steven Day in that game, who didn't play

2196
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 2: in the game against Alabama didn't matter. But that's like

2197
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 2: that they're not at full strength. But I'll be honest, man,

2198
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 2: Like you nailed it, Rich, Like you thought Signetty was

2199
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 2: this kind of like offensive guru coming in and that's

2200
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 2: how Indiana was gonna win games. But it has been

2201
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,640
Speaker 2: that he is the best coach in college football right now.

2202
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 2: This is the best turnaround I've ever seen of a program.

2203
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 2: And Indiana is absolutely the hammer in every game that

2204
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 2: they play, and the other team is the nail. And

2205
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 2: maybe its attitude, maybe it's delivery, Maybe it's just the

2206
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 2: overall vibe that he brings on the sideline, like he's

2207
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 2: pointing at Pat McAfee before the game, like it's just

2208
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 2: everything about him right now. It's just like it's it's

2209
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 2: coming up Roses literally in the Rose Bowl. But it

2210
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: I think on the other side for Oregon, I think

2211
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 2: you can make the case that they've kind of had

2212
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 2: the easy path in this college football playoff, and I

2213
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 2: know facing Texas Tech defense is not an easy path.

2214
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 2: But of the eight quarterbacks that played this week in

2215
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 2: the quarterfinals, it is no doubt in my mind who

2216
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 2: quarterback eight of the eight was, and it was Baron Morton.

2217
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 2: Like he was bottom of the pack. There's an awful

2218
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 2: quarterback performance, absolutely awful with the way that Texas Techs

2219
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 2: defense played for Morton and that offense to not be

2220
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 2: able to score a single point is beyond comprehension. And

2221
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 2: then of course you had a cupcake against JMU, ironically enough,

2222
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 2: Signetti's former team. So I think Oregon's kind of been

2223
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 2: like the Penn State of last year, right where you

2224
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 2: get SMU in that early game, not really much of

2225
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 2: a fight at home, and then you play Boise and

2226
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 2: Boise just didn't have the horses to match up. And

2227
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you play Notre Dame in

2228
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 2: the semifinals, and Notre Dame's a real football team, like

2229
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 2: they're doing everything right, They're checking all the boxes, little

2230
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 2: things x's and o's. They were tougher than everyone else,

2231
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 2: and you saw what happened. Even despite the fact De

2232
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:36,560
Speaker 2: Pens they had a lead in that game, it just

2233
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 2: didn't quite work out for them because they were facing

2234
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 2: the better, more disciplined, more drilled team. And that's what

2235
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 2: Indiana is. They are the best team on the field

2236
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 2: in this game. I don't know if they have the

2237
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 2: best players. I think you can make the case that

2238
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 2: Oregon's players at their ceiling might be better. But I

2239
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 2: think if we're talking about a team eleven players looking

2240
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 2: forward with one goal, I think Indiana team, their mentality,

2241
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 2: the way that they go about their business, I think

2242
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 2: is the best in college football right now.

2243
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,600
Speaker 5: I just I've heard every cliche with that, you know,

2244
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 5: like one heartbeat, you know, clear minds, like I heard it.

2245
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 4: I heard him, and that's what they have that.

2246
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 5: It's like Fernando Mendoza when you hear him talk. Oh,

2247
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 5: I can't help but love the guy. It's Cloe City, right,

2248
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 5: It's like Russell Wilson must watch this guy and be like,

2249
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 5: why do they hate me but love him? Like he's

2250
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 5: made We're the same guy and.

2251
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 4: They hate me but love him.

2252
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 5: But whatever, Like I just picture Russ looking like that,

2253
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 5: But are reacting that way. But when you look at

2254
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:41,719
Speaker 5: the turnaround for IU, it's astounding, Like, like Kurt Signetti said,

2255
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 5: like it make one hell of a movie, Like really,

2256
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 5: this is movie type stuff. They went from nine and

2257
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 5: twenty seven to three years collectively. Before Signetti took over.

2258
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 5: They were a three and nine football team the last

2259
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 5: year that Tom Allen was there, and they are this

2260
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 5: They went eleven and two last year, made it to

2261
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 5: the playoff, got smacked around by the Irish.

2262
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,560
Speaker 4: But you know, no one's perfect, right, and then this

2263
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 4: year they are perfect. They are fourteen to zero. They

2264
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 4: dump trucked Alabama.

2265
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 5: They're the only team to win that had a first

2266
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 5: round by all these other teams are losing left and right.

2267
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 5: So to go from nine to twenty seven to this

2268
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 5: amount of success, they're twenty five and two.

2269
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 4: That's insane.

2270
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:25,680
Speaker 5: And the other thing I love about him is one

2271
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 5: thing that Fernando Mendoza said after the game. Checked this

2272
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 5: out just quickly, what are your early thoughts on a

2273
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 5: rematch with Oregon, a team you've already beaten the season?

2274
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, that thinks the first time actually heard the Oregon one,

2275
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 2: it's got locked into the game.

2276
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 5: I love that, Like that that is when you're talking

2277
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 5: about a collective focus that matters. Like if you're on

2278
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 5: a date with Indiana, they're not on their phone at all,

2279
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 5: like they're listening to you.

2280
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 4: They are in the moment, they are present.

2281
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 5: No one whispered to Fernando Mendoza like on the sideline.

2282
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 4: They're blowing them out like he's not even in the game.

2283
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:01,640
Speaker 4: No one was like, hey, by the way, uh you

2284
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 4: know we got we got Oregon up next.

2285
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 5: No One just like out of left field, Holly Row, Hey, thanks,

2286
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 5: I didn't know who you were playing.

2287
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,560
Speaker 4: Next week, didn't even know.

2288
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 5: Like that is being locked freaking in to your job

2289
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 5: and collectively, not just Mendoza but the team.

2290
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 4: What is your role?

2291
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 6: Do your job?

2292
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 5: Next play focused? It is not about next week, next game,

2293
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 5: next nothing. It is about now baby, And that team

2294
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 5: is locked in on top of like performing on the

2295
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 5: level that they're performing on.

2296
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 4: Like that's that's gonna be really tough to be.

2297
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:35,560
Speaker 8: You know.

2298
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 7: The key matchups in this one, I would say, are

2299
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 7: the the trenches, like we were talking about, especially Indiana's offensive.

2300
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 6: Line against Oregon's pass rush.

2301
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 7: Again, you know, you have a lot of talented defenders

2302
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 7: on that Oregon side of the ball, So that's going

2303
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 7: to be obviously a carryover from the first game. It's

2304
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 7: it's something to keep an eye on these Oregon wide

2305
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 7: receivers against man to man coverage of Indiana, you know,

2306
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 7: especially when you have one on one opportunities. They have

2307
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 7: elite speed, they have great pass catchers. That's obviously going

2308
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 7: to be a matchup again, carry over from the first

2309
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 7: matchup that we're gonna have to keep.

2310
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:16,560
Speaker 6: An eye on.

2311
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 7: And then really red zone efficiency. I think Indiana is

2312
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 7: gonna want to score touchdowns, not field goals. And the

2313
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 7: bottom line here is if Oregon jumps out to an

2314
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:31,959
Speaker 7: early lead, does Indiana have the gear.

2315
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 6: To play catch up?

2316
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 7: You know, are they going to be able to be

2317
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 7: in sort of the passenger seat or the rear seat

2318
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 7: chasing points and having success. I'm curious because bullies like

2319
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 7: to play bully ball, and Indiana right now they're the biggest.

2320
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 6: Dog on the playground. And so what do you do

2321
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 6: with a big dog.

2322
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 7: You punch him in the face and you try to

2323
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 7: get him chase in and like many of you know,

2324
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 7: name some of the famous bully teams of the past,

2325
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 7: like the John Harbaugh Raven you know, I mean big

2326
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 7: time bullies on the.

2327
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 6: Playground, The Belichick Patriots.

2328
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 7: You know, love to play with the lead. Those those

2329
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 7: types of teams. They're built a certain way and when

2330
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 7: they're trailing, they struggle. And so let's let's see if

2331
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 7: Oregon jumps out to an early lead. My guess is

2332
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 7: again another bottom line here, what Indiana wants is a

2333
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 7: fourth quarter rock fight where it comes down to who's tougher,

2334
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 7: you know, a three point margin one way or the other,

2335
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 7: Who's tougher, who's better conditioned, who's better in the clutch moments,

2336
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 7: And Indiana could prevail. It's tough to beat the same

2337
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 7: team twice. I understand that, But I love Indiana and

2338
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 7: I think, I think this is.

2339
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 6: A hell of a squad.

2340
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 2: This season worst performance of the year for Oregons offense

2341
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 2: by a wide margin. They were negative in almost every category.

2342
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 2: Like when you go back and look at Oregon's offensive performances.

2343
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 2: And Oregon played a couple of tough defenses this year.

2344
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: Right on the road at Penn State, Iowa, they played

2345
01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 2: Indiana and they got absolutely shut down. And that was

2346
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 2: it in Eugene, right, and and so I I don't

2347
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 2: know what and I didn't love. I didn't love the

2348
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 2: way Oregon's offense looked the other day. I really didn't.

2349
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 2: I thought Whittington, the back, the main back for Oregon,

2350
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 2: didn't have good eyes. I thought Oregon's offense looked very

2351
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:20,919
Speaker 2: flustered by that Texas Tech defensive line. They were fumbling snaps,

2352
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 2: miscute like it was. It was very fortunate for them

2353
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 2: to be on the front foot in that game. And

2354
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 2: again when I watch, I'm gonna go back and watch

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Speaker 2: the full I'm gonna watch two films this week. I'm

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01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: gonna watch Oregon's offense against Texas Tech, and I'm gonna,

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01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 2: you know, make sure because I was looking at that

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01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 2: game through the Texas Tech lens, so I didn't really,

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Speaker 2: you know, really look into the Oregon the offense as much.

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01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go back and watch the Oregon game

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01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 2: from earlier this year against Indiana. I didn't love the

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01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 2: way Oregon's offense looked. And I'll see if I'm right

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Speaker 2: on that original opinion when I go back and watch.

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01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 2: But I think there's something to be said about Indiana's defense,

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01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 2: right Mendoza. People say it's a it's it was a

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01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 2: weak heisman field. I can see that argument, but I

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01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 2: think Mendoza's mentality and his ability to not get rattled

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01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 2: in these key moments, I think has been his best attribute.

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01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 2: Just making the right play in the right spot and

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01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 2: not the big mistake, and that's been his his big positive.

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Speaker 2: And for Oregon's defense, it's been shutting down these really

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Speaker 2: good attacks. Like I thought Texas Tech's offensive line and

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01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 2: their run game was gonna be a factor against Oregon's

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01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 2: defense the other day, it just wasn't. So I'm fascinated

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01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 2: to see how Oregon's defense handles this Indiana offense, which

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01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 2: is not like what do you take away from Indiana's offense.

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01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 2: They don't have the guy. It is very balanced, it

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01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 2: is very precise.

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 2: I just think they're the best team in the sport

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01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: this year, and I think they're gonna win this game.

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01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 2: They probably cover and Mendoza, right, we talked about the Heisman,

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01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 2: you know, curse. I don't think it's gonna be the

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01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 2: case this year. I think this team is absolutely nails

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01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 2: with their mentality and I love what I love what

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01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 2: I saw for I absolutely adore this Indiana team. I

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01:57:58,400 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 2: love their mentality, I love their mindset, and I love

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01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 2: the coach, no.

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Speaker 4: Doubt They're gonna be tough to beat.

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01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 5: Obviously a big step up from fools Gold Bama to Oregon.

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01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 5: I think all three of us can agree on that, right,

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01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 5: Like Kumbai, Team one, like nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 4: Just me all right.

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Speaker 5: We've got rich Oronberger, Penn State, All American, Jared Smith FSR,

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Speaker 5: betting analyst. I'm Brian No Coming up next, rapid Fire,

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Speaker 5: and we're putting the wrap it in rapid Fire.

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Speaker 6: Rapid fire.

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01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 4: All right, putting the rapid in rapid fire.

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Speaker 6: We start with you, Jared, what do you have?

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Speaker 2: Bucks keeam total under twenty three and a half, Sam

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01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 2: Darnold under thirty and a half passing attempts, and I

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01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 2: will take the Colts plus ten and a half against

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01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 2: the Texas. I thought that number was a little bit

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01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 2: too heavy, considering Houston's probably got nothing to play for

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01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 2: because the Jacks are gonna be the fights.

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01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 7: Okay, Seahawks forty nine ers under forty seven and a half.

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01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 7: I think this game sets up to be a rock fight. Miami.

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01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 7: I got him minus the points, favored by three and

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01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,040
Speaker 7: a half, Indiana favored by four.

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Speaker 6: That's that's it, man, that's all we have time for.

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01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 4: I love short and sweet.

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01:59:59,360 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 6: Let's go here.

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Speaker 5: Give me Carolina plus three. Tampa is a dead team

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02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 5: walking losing seven of eight. The weight of losing is real.

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02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 5: Give me Seattle minus two and a half. It's too

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02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 5: good to be true to be on the Niners. It's

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02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 5: like Niners at home, underdogs against Darnold.

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Speaker 1: Sign me up.

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02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 5: Not gonna be that easy. Seattle's a better team, much

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02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 5: better defense. In the spot, I'm laying the points and

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02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 5: give me the Rams minus six and a half in

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02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 5: the first half. Get that Tampa loss out of there.

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02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 5: At bad taste.

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Speaker 6: They roll them.