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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationships and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 2: a sibling railvalry No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 3: You don't do that with your mouth ravely. That's good.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about zapping brown spots on my face.

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Speaker 2: Good because I'm going to do that very short.

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Speaker 3: And how it's like one of the most satisfying things

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Speaker 3: you could ever do as you get older. At What

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Speaker 3: I've decided is that before I do like a show,

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Speaker 3: because I'm about to do this net you know Netflix

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Speaker 3: show that I'm just gonna zap every spot I've ever

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Speaker 3: had on my face, But now I can't go anywhere?

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Speaker 2: Are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I covered them? When you see them? No, it's pretty intense.

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Speaker 3: Like I like, say that word again, intense.

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Speaker 2: You were like inteen. You're like it's pretty inteen. Pretty

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Speaker 2: Uh No, I know I'm going to go to doctor Diamond.

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Speaker 3: You have your doctor. He's the best. What do you

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Speaker 3: mean he's gonna like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's gonna he's gonna scrape.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing clean that you're gonna love it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, at Look at how many I have

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Speaker 2: so much sun damage just because growing up in the

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Speaker 2: sun in California, we didn't have any clue.

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Speaker 3: Well, you also should get some brightener.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what. I'm gonna like a bright You're

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Speaker 2: going to go do a Morpheus. Oh, don't do that

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Speaker 2: on your I've done it, it crushed it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: do a p r P vampire facial.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Alli, I'm so proud of you for talking openly

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, look, bring on the filler.

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Speaker 3: Oh really? Oh hell yeah, filler's kind of yucky.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whatever he wants.

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Speaker 3: You know what, you know what? You know what a

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Speaker 3: really interesting injection is a new hyerlonic acid injection.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, we should have Nurse Jamie on,

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Speaker 3: and we should have doctor Diamond on.

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Speaker 2: We should revel on that.

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Speaker 3: That's a great idea, Yeah, because people want to know, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they want to know what.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's taboo anymore either.

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Speaker 3: I think everyone I wouldn't say taboo. It's like a perfume.

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Speaker 3: You don't always reveal what you're wearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're smart, you know that every single

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Speaker 2: person actor and actress, musician, whatever. Most of them have

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Speaker 2: done shipped to their face, not in a bad way,

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Speaker 2: as upkeep.

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Speaker 3: I'd be shocked to know which one hasn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, Diamond does a lot of

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Speaker 2: celebrities and he would never reveal who, but we know

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Speaker 2: that it's been some like big male names that have

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Speaker 2: gom come through his office probably, and I think.

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Speaker 3: Too, Like as anything, as we evolve, there's just everything's different.

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Speaker 3: It's like a new facial, like a face what used

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Speaker 3: to be like a facial with like some you know,

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Speaker 3: some sort of muscle you know when they call it

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Speaker 3: the things that work the muscles, what do they call them?

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Speaker 3: That tightens the muscle. It's like a type of it's

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Speaker 3: a type of uh.

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Speaker 2: Micro current, oh right right right?

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Speaker 3: That used to being now now it's just you know, injecting.

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Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going to get botox. What's any what

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Speaker 2: are you guys? What are you going to do about it? Nothing?

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna look great, gonna look great.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm still going to be a man, you know, because

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Speaker 2: that's what I sam to say, like I just need

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Speaker 2: to be I need to look masculine. I still want

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Speaker 2: to look masculine.

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Speaker 3: Right, you don't want to. I just want to, you

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Speaker 3: want your you want to move. Of course you want

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Speaker 3: to have preventative botox exactly. But let's talk about skin

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Speaker 3: texture for a second before we get into this. By

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Speaker 3: the way, this has nothing to do if you were talking.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like literally one eighty.

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Speaker 3: I just had to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm getting I'm getting creepy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just going to say, like, skin texture

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Speaker 3: and taking care of your skin obviously starts with food

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Speaker 3: and hydration and water and all those things. But like

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Speaker 3: you're saying, we grew up in the sunshine, we actually

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Speaker 3: the sun damage is a real thing anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got just so many brown spots.

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Speaker 3: I was feeling insecure about them. But you don't even

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Speaker 2: I don't see them at all.

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Speaker 3: Great, we don't even talk about anything. Don't forget about it, Oliver.

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about today's guests because it's another wild DNA.

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Speaker 2: I feel hearing more and more of these Yes story story, sure,

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Speaker 2: Jennie Jnae.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another interesting story.

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Speaker 2: More and more of these stories. By the way, here,

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Speaker 2: you're starting to hear them all the time, Like there's

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Speaker 2: sucking spyle flying around everywhere.

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Speaker 3: There's so much flying superb to you please animate that

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Speaker 3: for our for our post. Yeah, it's wild, it is,

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't want to, like, obviously, let's not,

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Speaker 3: let's not, you know, reveal too much of what we're

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Speaker 3: about to talk about. But this idea that it's so

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Speaker 3: available and that one person can just have so many kids,

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Speaker 3: it's just.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get into it, but I want to get

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Speaker 2: into the screening process as well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we'll get into that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's where it gets a little bit dicey.

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Speaker 2: But let's hear that, let's hear the stories.

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Speaker 3: Great, Well, we're going to talk to you, actually, we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk to Jacqueline fro.

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Speaker 2: Is it Italian? I mean it sounds I think you're

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Speaker 2: just making everything Italian. Doesn't sound American, Froze.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like it's like provolone.

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Speaker 2: Let me say spelled.

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Speaker 3: Do you pronounce provolone?

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Speaker 2: I think everything Italian.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like with Stanley Zucchini, You're like, can't

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Speaker 3: you just say zucchini? It's like, I love you, but

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Speaker 3: just okay. So Jacqueline Froze alone Jamie Loose and Maya Alana,

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Speaker 3: all of whom are not Italian. No, but they these

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Speaker 3: are three sisters who discovered each other. And there was

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Speaker 3: an article in USA Today that just captured our imagination

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Speaker 3: and our producers at Sibling Revelry, and we were like,

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Speaker 3: let's get these ladies on and let them tell all

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Speaker 3: of us their story.

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Speaker 2: Open the door.

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Speaker 3: Did we do that?

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Speaker 4: Hi? Ry?

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Speaker 3: So let's why don't we start with you? And I

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Speaker 3: believe that?

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Speaker 2: Well, first we got to talk about our last name.

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Speaker 3: Oh Yeahoni? Is it Italian?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Is it froze alone? Like pros alone, but Froze alone?

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Speaker 4: Correct to that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like Froze alone. I like to add

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Speaker 3: And is that so? So were you the one who

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Speaker 3: started this process of finding out kind of? I mean

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Speaker 3: the article was sort of based on your story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had no idea they were going to do that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, So why don't you Well, it was a

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Speaker 3: fascinating story, so that was pretty cool. Take us through

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Speaker 3: how that how it all started? How did you you

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Speaker 3: know p'se.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're in contact with this woman. Her name is

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Speaker 4: Laura High. She's all over TikTok Instagram YouTube and she's

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Speaker 4: also donor conceived, and she found our sibling pod through

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Speaker 4: I think one of the other siblings, and she did

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Speaker 4: interviews with us, like two years ago, she did interviews

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Speaker 4: with a whole bunch of us, and then since then

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Speaker 4: she's been contacted by outside people trying to get our information.

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Speaker 4: And she asked me a couple of months ago if

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Speaker 4: get any of the other siblings to join, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, yeah, So I asked around, found a few

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Speaker 4: the podcast and it kind of just like blew up

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Speaker 4: from there.

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Speaker 3: Wild. Okay, So to take us through how you discovered that,

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Speaker 3: first of all, that you you're now was it your mom?

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Speaker 3: Your mom had a sperm donor. Yes, and obviously anything

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Speaker 3: you're uncomfortable talking about, just don't just say you're uncomfortable

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Speaker 3: talking about, right, but but but but take take us

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Speaker 3: through how this all happened and how you found out

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Speaker 3: that you it was a you are a you know,

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Speaker 3: a product of a sperm donor.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So I always wanted to take tests

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Speaker 4: whenever they started coming out. I was like, oh, that's

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Speaker 4: really interesting. I really wanted to know my ancestry more, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, because I always told me I was seventy

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Speaker 4: ended up moving out. I took a test and I

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Speaker 4: didn't tell my parents, didn't tell anybody. I just like

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Speaker 4: took it. And then for Christmas, I gifted my sister

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Speaker 4: and my sister, not my dad. I don't know why,

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Speaker 4: tests for Christmas. And I was like, hey, I took one.

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Speaker 4: If you guys want to take them, you know here.

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Speaker 4: I got you some. And then I got my results

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Speaker 4: and January first, twenty twenty one, like happy New Year.

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Speaker 3: I was all alone.

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Speaker 4: I opened up the email and I'm like, okay, look

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Speaker 4: and it's got all these siblings and I'm like, who

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Speaker 4: who are these fucking people? I'm like, what did they

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Speaker 4: do with my DNA? Like I really thought it was

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Speaker 4: fate when they said that you and could get flipped

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Speaker 4: around and used by random people. I was okay, so

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Speaker 4: I'm looking. I'm looking and you can click and see

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Speaker 4: where their locations are. And my dad's a hunter. So

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Speaker 4: he goes around, he hunts in different states, and they

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Speaker 4: were all like states he hunts in, and I'm like, this,

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Speaker 4: motherfucker's a cheater. I go this, he's been cheating on

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Speaker 4: my mom.

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Speaker 5: Oh my.

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Speaker 2: Kids.

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Speaker 4: They were all younger than me, and I'm like this

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Speaker 4: is awful. Oh my god. So I message every single sibling.

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Speaker 4: There was like fifteen of them, and I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I think we have the same dad. No shit, it's

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Speaker 4: not like my mom gave birth all these children. So

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Speaker 4: one girl finally met I sits me back and she's like,

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Speaker 4: so you don't have any idea.

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Speaker 6: What's going on.

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Speaker 4: I'm like no, I'm like I we all have the

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Speaker 4: same dad, I guess. And she basically told me. She's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're from a sperm donor and we have all these siblings,

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Speaker 4: blah blah blah. There you go.

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Speaker 2: And I was just like, did you confront your dad

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Speaker 2: when you found the results for your your mom sort

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Speaker 2: of saying, holy shit, what is going on? Or was

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Speaker 2: it almost too scary to open up that Pandora's box?

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 4: I sat there for about an hour kind of just contemplating,

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Speaker 4: and then I went upstairs and I woke my girlfriend

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Speaker 4: up at the time, and I was like, I don't

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Speaker 4: I'm freaking out, Like you need to calm me down.

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Speaker 4: And my sister lives down the street from me, so

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Speaker 4: Whoa and she's eight years older than me, so she

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Speaker 7: Out, okay, And so your father she wasn't isn't biological?

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Speaker 3: Right. I was reading your mom actually burned the documents.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a klepto, so she needed to like

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the confrontation, How did that happen? When did

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Speaker 6: Thought very bad.

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Speaker 3: But how was it for you? Did you did you

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Speaker 4: I honestly wasn't upset at all. I was like kind

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, so that's.

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Speaker 4: Kind of fucking cool.

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Speaker 3: Right. How many siblings did you find out that you have?

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Speaker 3: How many do you have? And I know we're going

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Speaker 3: but like what you know, what? What did you? How

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Speaker 4: There will never be an actual number because we have

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Speaker 4: no idea how many are actually out there? Oh, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Hi? Are these all siblings?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Jamie, Maya and Gianna.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, wow, amazing, Wow, there's lots unpack.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Hi, thank you so much for having us on here.

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Speaker 6: This is.

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Speaker 3: So this is so fascinating. You guys.

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Speaker 2: Where are you? Guys? Now? Where are you?

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Speaker 6: We're all from New Jersey here, but we did not

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Speaker 2: You found each other?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Whoa? Okay you're saying yes, and yet do you do you?

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Speaker 3: I'm okay, I have to.

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Speaker 2: Sisters and your homies like your great friend you.

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Speaker 3: How long have you three they're all together? For those

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Speaker 3: have the three of you been known that you were

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Speaker 1: I've known my whole entire life. My mom always told

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Speaker 1: me my mom's a single mom. Okay, she was very fluid.

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Speaker 6: And I have a twin brother, which is their brother.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, oh wow, So she has a sperm donor

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Speaker 3: and had twins. Yes, amazing. And you and and you guys, I've.

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Speaker 6: Known my whole life because I have lesbian parents and

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Speaker 3: Yeah wow.

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Speaker 6: But as far as having hundreds and hundreds of siblings,

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Speaker 6: that part I did not know.

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Speaker 3: So what about you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So this is Gianna John Jamie Jamie. I'm Maya Maya.

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Speaker 2: Maya Jamie Jacqueline Maya.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 6: I'm the eldest of the group. I'm like one of

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Speaker 6: I found out when I was sixteen that I was

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Speaker 6: I was twenty three, so a little bit older. For

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Speaker 3: And your parents are Are they still together?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 6: Oh, okay, Now my dad couldn't have kids for a

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Speaker 6: very terrible reason, but they still wanted children. So then

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Speaker 6: that's where they went to our biological father.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you know from the beginning, obviously there

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Speaker 2: with it. Right, So maya, did you were you fucked

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Speaker 6: I feel like in my heart I always knew that,

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Speaker 6: we just don't fucking look alike, that we don't behave alike.

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Speaker 6: But my mom is adopted, so I didn't. It wasn't

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Speaker 6: I'm very blessed privileged in that way. But I was like,

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Speaker 3: And have.

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Speaker 2: And how did you start that process of sort of

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess you should start, yeah, because right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Immediate I was like there's no way I'm related to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh I am twenty three. By the way, like

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Speaker 6: By the time I was old enough, I was about ten,

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Speaker 6: But at this point it was like every year it

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Speaker 3: No, so this is zero.

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Speaker 2: So explained that screening. But it's bad screening, correct.

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Speaker 4: I mean parents, that's it?

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Speaker 2: What about genetic About genetic screening?

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean nothing, it's self reported.

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Speaker 6: The last time that I was notified, yea, and things

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Speaker 4: It's all self reported, and they're not verifying any information.

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Speaker 2: Right because it's just up to the donor to sort

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Speaker 2: of say, no, I'm good, clean, bill of health guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well and hold on you. You said that you're all

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Speaker 3: very sick. But what do you what do you mean by.

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Speaker 6: That mental physical Yeah. And and the thing is that

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Speaker 6: like there's always multiple common illnesses that were shared. It's

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Speaker 3: Heart condition? Is that something that is runs in the

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Speaker 6: I have gastroparesis, So my stomach, the nerves and my

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Speaker 6: I can still eat somewhat, but like not, it's not good.

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Speaker 6: I've gotten to know. Actually so, and I think just

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Speaker 6: Like my mom does not have any of the problems

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's so. And can you actually go to

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Speaker 7: someone needs to expose this. Not like yeah, hard hitting exposed,

443
00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 7: but still I mean this, the fact is is that

444
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 7: there's a genetic situation happening.

445
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean due to the lack of screening. Me a

446
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: physical medical screening, it's very easy to do well. I

447
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 2: actually I don't know that how easy it is to

448
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: do a genetic screening, but seems like that would just

449
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: be standard, you know, you.

450
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 6: Would think to add to this, I have none of

451
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 6: us have been been in contact with our father, but

452
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 6: I've spoken to his brother, our uncle, and they both

453
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 6: our father and him and their sister have found out

454
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 6: that like they're like in the thirties, they developed acid

455
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 6: reflux joint issues but like it wasn't to the State's

456
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 6: still not reported. So we're all in the if I

457
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 6: never talked to this man that happened to come out

458
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 6: of the woodwork. We never found our uncle. I wouldn't

459
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 6: even know that. A lot of us struggle with like

460
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 6: immunal converromisation, things like that, but things where you go

461
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 6: to the doctor and they're like, well, there's clearly something

462
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 6: wrong with you, but we can't exactly figure out what

463
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 6: it is. So we're all very used to living in

464
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 6: limbo and just not knowing, and like I kind of

465
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 6: find we're gonna at this point, but me and Gianna specifically,

466
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 6: do you want do you want to?

467
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: This is?

468
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 6: Can I show like my so this is Gianna's.

469
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: Hand, oh wow, okay.

470
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 6: And then this is my arm wow? And then this

471
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 6: is my face. Uh so and obviously that's not nice

472
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 6: to look at. And it's ema or whatever. We dermatitis, dermatitis, hormonal.

473
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 6: We all have p C O s. Yeah, so what

474
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 6: we get we get we get six wa see girls,

475
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 6: my leg.

476
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: We don't have me.

477
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 6: That's not something you just walk down the street and

478
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 6: like everybody has it. That's clearly like a niche thing

479
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 6: going on.

480
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: Are you are? Are your parents involved in this and

481
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: trying to get to the bottom of that.

482
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 6: Us minor not necessarily minor some parents minor pissed. Yeah,

483
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 6: min Jamie's parents are, Yeah, they're but again they they

484
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 6: started in it. They were like, you know, they laid

485
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 6: for us.

486
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: Do you blame your donor? I mean, I wouldn't call

487
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: him your dad.

488
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: Actually, we don't really blame him because imagine, imagine being

489
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: at twenty five years age, twenty five year.

490
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 6: Old man and you need money.

491
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: You know, I don't.

492
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he did it because he cared for

493
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: giving like lesbian nor gay uh lesbian parents. You know,

494
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he cared much, but I think he

495
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: needed the money. And you know, you're not going to

496
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: be too in in depth into your your health and

497
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: generally because it shows I think like four generations down

498
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: the line of like his health, his side of the family.

499
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: But it's all self reported. And for men, they don't

500
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: really get as sick as women. So a lot of

501
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: the men in our pod our brothers they're not They

502
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: don't really are affected, and if they are affected, it's

503
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: very little and they don't even realize.

504
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: Wow.

505
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 1: But for a lot of me, like a lot of

506
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: my sisters, like we have skin disorders and we have

507
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: gastrol problems.

508
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 6: Peah, we have vocal line. We're a vocalist, like since birth,

509
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 6: since childbirth, and then you know, we grow up and

510
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 6: like we're in our twenties now and like we have

511
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 6: paralyzed vocal cords. I'm getting injections into my neck with

512
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 6: my own blood platelets to try and be able to

513
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 6: do what I've done my entire life. We just have

514
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 6: like aged, like you know, as you get older, but

515
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 6: it's for our case, everything happens like in rapid succession.

516
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 6: So now at twenty five, I'm out of the job

517
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 6: I had my entire life from a genetic predisposition that

518
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 6: I mean, how would they how would how would they

519
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 6: even know what.

520
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: Was the job? You were singing?

521
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a I'm a vocalist professionally, and like so

522
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 6: it is Jamie, you know, and obviously that's a major hit,

523
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 6: not only from a business perspective, but like that's where

524
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 6: our heart is, you know, mm hmm. So so than

525
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 6: just like our work.

526
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: Do you feel at least comfort in knowing that now

527
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: you can pinpoint where these things come from?

528
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 6: And I feel like I'm not crazy.

529
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 5: I feel like I had a problem, you know, But

530
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: one thing, one thing I also wanted to say aside

531
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 5: from health, is that he thought our donor thought he

532
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: was one hundred percent Italian, and my mom thought he was.

533
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: She was going to get a one hundred. But the

534
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: thing is is that he himself didn't know that his

535
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: father wasn't his father. And so I went on my

536
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: twenty three and me and the only reason why I'm

537
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: Italian is because of my mother. But I'm German, I'm French,

538
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm Russian, I'm assuming Asian for a German baby. Yeah,

539
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: And so he's not Italian Italian basically not wait, hold on,

540
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: he's not Italian.

541
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: I know you've said this, but he's not Italian because

542
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: he didn't know who his father was.

543
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: So it's very loose, exactly, it's very loose. It's all

544
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: self reported, and there's no there's no real test to

545
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: really get these banks.

546
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 6: And I don't want to talk. We shouldn't even know this.

547
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 6: Like the things that we have figured out have been

548
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 6: from other siblings getting curious and like going and finding him,

549
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 6: and like when I first joined the pod, I was

550
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 6: immediately When I say immediately, I was immediately contacted by

551
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 6: our other siblings and they showed me where our dad lives,

552
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 6: what he looks like legals.

553
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: Do anyone look like him? I mean, it's fine.

554
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: So we come a long way.

555
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 6: That's no jobs. Gotta be honest out here, you know,

556
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 6: we all like our mom's honest, like if you for

557
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 6: the most part, like look at his face and your seat.

558
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 6: Oh my god, wait a minute, there's the smile. It's

559
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 6: dad's smile. Sorry.

560
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: Do you spend a lot of time together?

561
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 6: Yes, and if we if we could spend time with

562
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 6: Jack there so far and it's it's a hustle. Yeah.

563
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: So are the four of you guys very tight and

564
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: as far as the big pod goes you for the

565
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: closest at least, are there other pods within the pod?

566
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

567
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't like that, but we're open. We accept anyone

568
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: that wants to come in and no toxicity here.

569
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: What is allowed now that you, for the four of

570
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: you would like to see change, like, is there anything

571
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: that you would actually I mean, you're you know, you're

572
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: you're talking about it and clearly this is a complicated scenario,

573
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: and is there anything you'd like to see change?

574
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: Limits? How many children can be born from one donor?

575
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Because and I have a story, I have two stories.

576
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: So I complete agree with Jacqueline. There should be a

577
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: limit and there's not, and that is an increase of incest.

578
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: And it's scary, and not only from us, but if

579
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: we were to have kids, and our kids have kids,

580
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: and we're all so like concentrated in one area unless

581
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: we moved out, it's scary, and it's so scary.

582
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 6: There's my two stories.

583
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: Jamie's Jamie's brother just as related.

584
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 6: I lived a block away or not live I'm sorry.

585
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: I went to elementary school a block away from their house,

586
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: their grandparents' house. And a few months ago I found

587
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: out that I'm a server, so I served my brother

588
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: a burger and I didn't even know he was my brother,

589
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: and I just I just found that out yesterday and

590
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's it's shocking and it's insane how like

591
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: we could see we could pass each other on the

592
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: street and not even know we're related. And if I

593
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: stayed in the school system that I was in, because

594
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: I did it, My two elementary best friends are best

595
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: friends with her brother. Her brother's name is Johnny, our brother,

596
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: so I was best friends with Johnny's current friends. And

597
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: it's if I stayed in the system I wouldn't have

598
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: known that that was my brother unless.

599
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 6: We talked about it.

600
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: God forbid, you know something happened between me and him,

601
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: we wouldn't even.

602
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was about to ask. You know,

603
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: do you guys have boyfriends or girlfriends? I mean, or

604
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: is that yeah? You do?

605
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: And this is where I come in.

606
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 6: So I'm a lesbian, and obviously that means that like

607
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 6: when it comes time for me to have children, my

608
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 6: girlfriend and I we're gonna have to go through some

609
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 6: kind of donor whatever. I definitely have my opinions where

610
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 6: I would be comfortable getting you know, that kind of

611
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: stuff from. I don't believe going through a bank is

612
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 6: the best or best societally like, because again I don't

613
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 6: want to contribute to the larger issue, which is like

614
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 6: possible incest. Since my mom is adopted, I'm donor conceived,

615
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 6: and my children will be donor conceived. It's like my

616
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 6: childre are going to have like first cousins, seconds, third cousins,

617
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 6: hundreds and thousands of relatives that it's like it's almost

618
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 6: cool to bring a child into that kind of situation.

619
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 6: So the what I can do as a mother when

620
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 6: I want to become one, which I do is that

621
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 6: like I would like to do something more private, So

622
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 6: like I would prefer as a gay person to go

623
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 6: to a dude who wants to do things for like lesbians.

624
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 6: You know what you feel me like, But there there

625
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: are ethical out there, you know.

626
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what's the top of my head,

627
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: but I do know people are doing it right out there.

628
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the conventional places, the banks,

629
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: their industries on me. Yeah.

630
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 6: Also I would also like to not really quick just

631
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 6: for my story as well as I'm uh. One of

632
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 6: our sisters, so one of the closest sisters to me,

633
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 6: uh is also a lesbian. A lot of our siblings

634
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 6: are lesbians. I mean, there's a lot of us, so

635
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 6: of course there's going to be gay people in our family.

636
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 6: But because the lesbian community is already so small, my

637
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 6: girlfriend that I've been with for over here we share

638
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 6: a place together, one of my sister, our sisters, I

639
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 6: should say, one of our sisters tried to holler at

640
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 6: my girlfriend surprised. So, like my girlfriend has seen many

641
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 6: of my sisters on dating apps. I'm sure we've seen

642
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 6: our own siblings on dating apps.

643
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: What's the screening process for something like that when you

644
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: are living there is none. Yeah, that's well, I know,

645
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: but I'm saying, well, you're like almost living in fear

646
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: of intimacy because, oh my god, am I going to

647
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: be with my sibling.

648
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: I just want to say that I think that, you know,

649
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: it's a very good cause to fight for more regulations

650
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: with sperm donors like you guys, and hearing your story

651
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: and talking about this. The only people who can actually

652
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: move the needle and that are people like you who

653
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: are in the scenario and it's happening and has happened

654
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: to you guys, and you're, you know, discovering all of

655
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 3: these new things, and you can you can really speak

656
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: to it. I mean, that's that's I can't even believe

657
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: I didn't even know this, you know, I was.

658
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, I'm aware of the limits.

659
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: And then I wonder, like I asked before, you know,

660
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 3: is it a state is it state by state regulations?

661
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: Like?

662
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: Is it different? Is it more controlled?

663
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: Like is this I don't know if it's a federal thing,

664
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: I have no I have no idea. I have to

665
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: look it up, do you guys know?

666
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: No, I do know about like a different countries like

667
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 6: Australia and UK they have a cap people only have

668
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 6: like ten kids for donor something like that because they're smart.

669
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be.

670
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: It might be at the state level, which which would

671
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: you know?

672
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: It's such an easy thing though. Essentially when someone is

673
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: donating sperm, they're doing it in an area that you

674
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: know will be populated by your seeds, so to speak,

675
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 2: because those are the people are going to be going, right,

676
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean, so it's a business. No, No, I know

677
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: there's money, but why you know, why not put a

678
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 2: cap on something like that.

679
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 6: We can't say where we're from because we'll literally be

680
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 6: like someone's going to knock on a board probably, but

681
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: we our bank is not in New Jersey. It's actually

682
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 6: quite far. I'm sure there's some kind of like human

683
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 6: science behind like like, well, the commonality we have is

684
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 6: like we were expected to have like an Italian father,

685
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 6: and like Jersey people, we love Italian so you would think,

686
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, like it makes sense that

687
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 6: New Jersey, New York. You know, we're all kind of

688
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 6: like we want an Italian father. But our bank is

689
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 6: not in New Jersey. Wow, Okay, my parents literally wanted

690
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 6: to go to this place because they're like, oh, if

691
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 6: there are siblings, so that my kids will never run

692
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 6: into them because it's.

693
00:35:53,040 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: So far well, I mean it, maybe do you have

694
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: any idea or the records of the donor and what

695
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: the sort of statistics are on his sheet, meaning like

696
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: elite athlete, like the hottest men in Can you just

697
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: lie on these things and just the superman?

698
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

699
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 6: No?

700
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: Wow? All right, Wow, ladies, I'm gonna ask We're gonna

701
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: ask one more question, which is, what advice would you

702
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: give do others who might find themselves in a similar

703
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: situation as you.

704
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: You're not alone. There's way more people out there than

705
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: you think going through this exact same situation.

706
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, and would you encourage them to reach out

707
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: and try to find.

708
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: Yes, the people are there being silenced by other siblings.

709
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: That's why nothing has come forward yet. We're like the

710
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 4: first ones.

711
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're actually the second sibling. We we interviewed another.

712
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: They were older then they were older.

713
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: They're different and they.

714
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: Also have how many siblings? Sixty five sixty five siblings?

715
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

716
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: I love it.

717
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: I love you guys have come together and and sort

718
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: of found each other and have become not only siblings

719
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: but best friends and advocates for each other. H you

720
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's dope, it really is. And

721
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: I think that you, as young people, have an opportunity

722
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 2: to expose this and shine a light on it because

723
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: it does seem a little bit crazy. It's hard because

724
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: you want to be an advocate, but you also want

725
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: to just have your life and not But if you

726
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: do sort of see how this is ruining potentially ruining

727
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: people and you're seeing this mental illness, you.

728
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: Know, and and not knowing, you know, we need we

729
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: should know what our genetic makeup is and I and

730
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: and it helps us, it helps our profile and like

731
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: how we can be the healthiest we can be, Like

732
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: we now know that we can take these genetic tests

733
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: and really understand how to take care of ourselves. And

734
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 3: you know, they should they should be screening those things.

735
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: And it kind of goes without saying it seems weird,

736
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 3: but I would encourage I'm just gonna say, I would

737
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: encourage you to find out if it's a federal uh,

738
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: if if it's at the federal level for the I'm

739
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: going to assume it's at the state level for the

740
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: regulations but if it's crossing borders, if it's crossing state borders,

741
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: then yeah, it.

742
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: Seems like it seems like the wild West, like sperm

743
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: flying everywhere, just a wild West.

744
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 6: It's so hard to talk about because we don't even

745
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 6: really know what we can and cannot say. And I

746
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 6: really appreciate you guys giving a flock because somebody like

747
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 6: we need help. Like it's you know, it's it's going

748
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 6: to be a collaborative experience. I mean, you don't want

749
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 6: a bunch of incested motherfuckers running.

750
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: Around what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a.

751
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 6: Human being issue, like it's a societal issue, human rights.

752
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you so much

753
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: for getting Thank you guys. This was awesome.

754
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

755
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: M that was a whirlwind.

756
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: I've been shocked. Oh yeah, it's so fun to interview

757
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: young you know.

758
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, that's what was really interesting too, is

759
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: we did have on another guests.

760
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: They were older, they were older, and it.

761
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: Was a completely different conversation obviously when you're twenty five

762
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: and going through life and figuring it out.

763
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally different.

764
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 2: This makes total sense.

765
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a gen z whirlwind.

766
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: But totally but very articulate, and they have a really

767
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: good you know you can very articulate, Yeah, very articulate,

768
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: small and.

769
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: They have a I mean, this is a real issue.

770
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. And they're in the same state.

771
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: It's so weird, in the same little city. Yeah.

772
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: And the fact that she was saying that her she's

773
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: serving a burger to her brother. Yeah, and like she

774
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: could have been like, hey, you're super cute. Can I

775
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: get your number or you know, you have no idea.

776
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: Her bank was many many miles away apparently I can't

777
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: say where it was, Memember, it was not in state.

778
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: This is the whole thing is mind blowing.

779
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: And then all of the genetic disorders, yeah, you know

780
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: it's not all of the EXITMA and the skin issues.

781
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: And then how it was more female driven.

782
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: And you would think that with science today that there

783
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: has to be you have to do a genetic test

784
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: to find out what those genetic things are. It is

785
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: so that so that the woman or couple or man

786
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: whoever is getting the sperm donner, you know, needs to

787
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: know what they're getting.

788
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, with that many siblings, I don't even know

789
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: how to one hundred percent two of them have slept together.

790
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: There's almost one hundred percent chance.

791
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, she's right, it's a that's a

792
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: human rights issue.

793
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: That is that is incest is illegal, I think correct.

794
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: Well, and it's also it's also just did you imagine

795
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: falling in love with your brother, your sister? What if

796
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: Aaron was your half sister?

797
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 2: Terrible?

798
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: Oh what disgusting?

799
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: Of course I'm an idiot, she's right now, stepsister, then

800
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: it would be kind of hot.

801
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: No, no, but seriously, like I'm serious, this should be

802
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: protected and and.

803
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: There's got to be something happening, you know what I mean,

804
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: there's got to be someone fighting the fight.

805
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: I think it's really brave of those girls to be

806
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: talking about it, because it's true there's a lot of regulations.

807
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: They are probably not supposed to be sharing this information. Yeah,

808
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: and and like and like John Acland said, it's like

809
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: you're not alone and there's a lot of people out

810
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: there and it should be stopped. And they need to

811
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: take care of each other. You need to know who

812
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: your siblings are so.

813
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: That so you don't stuff them well.

814
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: Also, like I mean, for the most part, it's also

815
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: a health thing. You know. It's like when you go

816
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: into a doctor's office and they ask you about your

817
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: family's medical Yes, that you need to know. Now you're

818
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: gonna have two hundred people to write down that.

819
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: Secondary secondary to stop though. That's number one. And you

820
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: need to notice you don't have a stup where you're like,

821
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: uh okay, oh god, let me just put that out

822
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: of my head.

823
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: Talk about sending some people into like a tizzy, get it.

824
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: I don't know kizzy sending I went into a tizzy.

825
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: I know you're like, back in nineteen.

826
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Thirties, I'm like, hold on to get an ice cream

827
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: from the ice Anyway. I thought that was absolutely fascinating

828
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: and all right, peace out,