1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: I ran out of holidays from work and got the 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: option of the last minute holiday, so I called in 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: sick for five days. Lots of people do this, so 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean not an issue, right, Well, I'm not laying 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: to anyone at work on Facebook. But turns out one 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: of my friends is and my manager has now seen 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: posts with pictures of me on holiday. 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: You snitched on yourself, most pictures. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Of you doing illegal things. I know she's seen them 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: because she's made a comment, But I don't know what, 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: if anything, she's going to do. Like commented on the 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: Facebook like people, where are you come. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: Back to work looking good? About to be fired? That 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Johnson account is going hey wire? Can she do anything? 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: Probably fire you. But there are some relevant comments and 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: some juicy updates. But that's the first Can she do anything? 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: John What do you think? 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: I think? 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: You just be like listen, I wanted a vacation, you 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: guys won't give it to me. 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: So that's that. What's the damage? The damage is the 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: time that the company paid in that ope for the 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: time off. 24 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: Did the earth separate and did all of our clients 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: revolt against us? And job sitting down fall down of 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: the office. 27 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: No not, it's probably fun. That's what I'm saying, No harm, 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: no foul, well relevant comments? Op? Okay? Can they use 29 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: Facebook as evidence? I thought companies couldn't use personal social 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: media posts. Oh, I know it's wrong. It just didn't 31 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: seem as serious as this. I was a bit anxious 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: before when she made the comment, but wasn't expecting to 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: be sacked. People at our place only get sacked for 34 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: things like fraud or serious safety. What can I do? 35 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: And since I posted all, the response seemed to think 36 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: I will be sacked, which, to be honest, I hadn't 37 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: really expected because I didn't think they could use Facebook. 38 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: If it's on Facebook, it's not illegal. Right, I'm not 39 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: sure if my manager will do this, but I'm now 40 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: really worried. Can anyone advise me on what to do? 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: And there is an update? Yeah, that's a little little 42 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: relevant comment section. 43 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: I feel like they can probably use that against you, bro. 44 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Like, all right, there's been so many cases where someone 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: does something crazy. See the video goes viral, everyone sees 46 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: it on Facebook, and your company's like, yo, I don't 47 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: want that. My company, Yes, get out of you exactly 48 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: and you get fired. Yeah. So yeah, the things that 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: they put on the internet can come back to haunt 50 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: you really just like this podcast? Oh when we have 51 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: our political careers? Yeah, Sam for president? Oh now just 52 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: don't look at any of these episodes. 53 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 4: Please comment? What comment will not allow him any president? O? 54 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: God? 55 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: What Sam quote will cancel as president's will? 56 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: So many, so many. I'm just going to go into 57 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: a mountain and be a monk or something my forties. 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: I like that. Monk for president. Monk for president. So 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: two days later we got an update. So am I 60 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: the AOL for not celebrating my friend's promotion. Christmas is 61 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: going to be terrible. It seems very likely that I'm 62 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: going to be fired from my job when I go 63 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: back for what was a massive error of judgments. I 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: have to go to a meeting when we reopen, but 65 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: advice is that it doesn't look good for me. Also, 66 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: I can't really job hunt because all the companies in 67 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: I feel are closed for Christmas. I've never been in 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: trouble before, and I'm feeling really sick and scared. Do 69 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: you think, Op, he's going to be fired? Probably? 70 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting big corporate vibes. This is like a 71 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: big corporate firing thing. 72 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: Comment right now, is ope fired or not fired? Let 73 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: us know. Also subscribe. 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: What the heck, dude, stop not subscricribing. 75 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Subscribe. Ironically, my good friend has just got a big promotion, 76 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: which is well deserved. She'd planned a big night out 77 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: to celebrate, which I agreed to go to before all 78 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: this happened. When this happened, I said I couldn't go. 79 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: I was too miserable and probably shouldn't spend the money. 80 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: She said she'd pay for me. I still didn't want 81 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: to go and said I'd put a damper on the night. 82 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: She said it would do me good to be distracted 83 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: for a night. I told her she was insensitive. If 84 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: it was for any other reason, I would go, but 85 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: not for this. She told me that the trouble I 86 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: was in was my own fault, and I was selfish 87 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: for not wanting to celebrate her success just because i'veked. 88 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: I was really hurt that she said this, and it escalated. 89 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: I didn't go. She still went with other people, but 90 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: she's still annoyed with me. Am I the A hole? Here? 91 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: So there's two AMLI a holes? Am I a hole 92 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: for faking sick leave to vacation? And am I the 93 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: A hole? For when I thought I was going to 94 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: get fired and didn't go to my friend's promotion party. 95 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Am I the A hole for that too? Okay? So 96 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: what do you think? And there is more There is 97 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: another update coming from January. First, okay, what do you think? 98 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Well, number one on faking sick leave, I love all 99 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: the stories of finessing the big corporation, So I'm gonna 100 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: say not the A hole because. 101 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I love those. 102 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: And number two, I would say the A hole because 103 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: I don't think you had to bring that energy to 104 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: that person. 105 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: I think you could have. What if op knew like 106 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to be super depressed, I'm not going to 107 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: be fun at this party. 108 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think it was the delivery that made the ahole, 109 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: Like you're so insensitive, Like how dare you invite and 110 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: try to babymas? 111 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: Like this person is. 112 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: Trying to do what they think is best. Yeah, I 113 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: think it'd be like listen, honestly, I just need some 114 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: time alone to chill. 115 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, leave it at that. I agree. I would have 116 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: gone out. I mean I would have gone out to 117 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: but a real sense, I probably wouldn't have. 118 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: You would have. 119 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: Actually, I honestly, I don't even want to go out 120 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: when I am a good spirit. Yeah, no, Seriously, Christian 121 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and I were talking. He was like, yeah, I don't 122 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: know if I want to invite you out because every 123 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: time you go out, you're like, I don't like being out. 124 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: Christians said that to you because I always say when 125 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: whenever we go out together, like I don't want to 126 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: be out. 127 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: Guys are the Donner's grandparents are Sophia Grande are. 128 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: See, I want to go like skateboarding or surfing. I 129 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: don't want to go like partying and drinking. 130 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, So it's it's the type of activity. 131 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: Type of activity. Yeah, if I'm going to a bar 132 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: or like a club, I'm like fuck this. 133 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: So if this person that got the promotion was like, hey, 134 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: we're going to celebrate by shredding the freaking bowl or any. 135 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: Of the shreds down down. 136 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: But as soon as it's like, yo, we're gonna go dance, 137 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna go get some drinks or go big, big, 138 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: huge club, flashing lights. 139 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Not as into it, not as into unless it's like 140 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: a small swing dancing club with like seventy year old. 141 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: It's that one hundred percent down for the seven year old. 142 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: I am there, but you know what. I'm also here 143 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: for this update. So everyone on Reddit says op is 144 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: the asshole and the relevant comments so you've seen it now. 145 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: It's as it says. In my defense, I know other 146 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: people who've taken sick days when they weren't sick, and 147 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: I didn't really think it was serious. Refacebook, I'm not 148 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: linked to anyone I work with and didn't post anything anyway. 149 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: It was a post a friend maid and it she 150 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: is linked to coworkers. I didn't realize that Facebook posts 151 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: could be used as evidence in work situations like this. Anyway, 152 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: it seems work are treating it seriously and I'm probably 153 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: screwed from what our union guy says, you know you're 154 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: screwed with the you is like, yeah, you're screwed. Yeah, 155 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: thanks for your judgment. It makes me feel marginally better. 156 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not denying I did something wrong. I am 157 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: owning it. But I'd say fraud is a bit strong word. 158 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: It's time theft. You're a time theef. Stop stealing time, 159 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: all right? And we have an update on January first, 160 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: we got another update on January our teeth, we got 161 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: we got a whoa a flurry of updatesga soga. Okay, 162 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: So January first, twenty twenty three, I have a disciplinary 163 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: meeting next week, so two days before my two year 164 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: work anniversary, I am going to admit the allegation, which 165 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: was that I took paid sick leave to go on 166 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: a holiday for a week. They found some posts on 167 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: social media. It was a stupid decision, which I regrets. 168 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: But can't you just be like I was sick, I 169 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: just couldn't work. I got a headache. 170 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: You could also if they're like, hey, you're fired, just 171 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: be like, all right, take that week of pay and 172 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: just don't take it out of my next paycheck. What's 173 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: the harm? Yeah, I would have used my sack and 174 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: I use my sick days. 175 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: But I think it's like the idea of like if 176 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: someone if you steal like ten thousand dollars from the company, 177 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: right right, and then you're just like, hey, you know what, 178 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it back, no harm, no foul. You're 179 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: not he going to be like I don't know if 180 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: we trust this guy anymore. 181 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: But it's like, I don't know, I feel like it's 182 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: I feel like, actually take like if you sent an 183 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: invoice that got the money wired, that is a holy 184 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: different thing and experience, then being like, yeah, I'm on 185 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: sick leave. I'm taking up that they got paid for 186 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: that time. 187 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well it's paid sickly, pass paid sickly. Yeah, 188 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: it's paid. So the letter I have states they are 189 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: considering it as gross misconduct. Gross you Yeah, gross misconduct. 190 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: I am in a union and the rep has told 191 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: me it looks bad. I now understand how serious it is. 192 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: But in practice, is this something which is likely to 193 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: get me sacked? I feel like everyone's saying, like, yo, 194 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna get sacked. He's like, really sure, yes? Is 195 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: there a reason it would be better to resign before 196 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: being dismissed? I do not have another job, but I 197 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: worry in case I did that and they were only 198 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: going to give me a warning. Is there a point 199 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: this becomes obvious? Thank you for your help. I've been 200 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: in trouble like this before, so I don't know what 201 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: to expect. Oh so this is even your first time? Oop? 202 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: Come on? 203 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, it gets worse at the end. He's like, 204 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, this is the first time 205 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: I've been fucked. Relevant comments from OPE the discipline policy 206 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: as a list of things they are saying as fraud 207 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: and falsifying records because I signed the RTW saying that 208 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: I was ill is an example of that. The rep 209 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: says the policy is very standard, mirrors acast three levels 210 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: of warning, one rite of appeal. So maybe you're only 211 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: on your second warning. Maybe it wasn't even my Facebook, 212 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: it was my friend. So a friend from the trip 213 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: posted and that friend was connected. They still see it though, 214 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: but that friend was connected to the boss. So it's 215 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: only because the friend was connected to the boss that 216 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: the boss saw it. Maybe fire that friend as a friend. Yeah, honestly, Yeah, 217 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: keep a trip shut. We went away abroad for a 218 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: week and there were pictures over the course of the 219 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: week checking us in at our location. There were some 220 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: pictures in bars, but not all. And no, I won't 221 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: be there two years until two days after the hearing. Unfortunately, 222 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to go away on holiday abroad but didn't 223 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: have any holidays left, so I booked the holiday and 224 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: then called in sick. At the time, it didn't seem 225 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: like a big deal, but it was really stupid. I 226 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: get that now. I then signed the RTW when I 227 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: got back, saying I was sick. I guess that could 228 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: return to work for him. Maybe that's what I'm guessing 229 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: it is. Let's know, I've never had any warnings before. 230 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: I've had some time off, but never enough to have 231 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: a warning. I thought you said earlier that I've been 232 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: in trouble before. Maybe it was for something else. Yeah, 233 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't work in a regulated industry. So does this 234 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: mean even if this they sacked me, it wouldn't be 235 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: in a reference And no, I said I had flu 236 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: slash chest infection. So now now there is yes another update. 237 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Oh January fourteenth, and this is am I the apple 238 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: for asking my boyfriend's brother for a job when I'm desperate. 239 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh, he just keeps getting more down bad 240 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: and just gets worse and worse the more down bad 241 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: they get. 242 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: I've had a bad few weeks. Oh god, I've just 243 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: lost my job due to a misjudgment on my part. 244 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: I also love so just so y'all know, this guy 245 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: has been posting to a bunch of different subreddits. 246 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: Like like, maybe these guys will think I'm not the ahle. 247 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: Maybe these guys will I think I'm in the. 248 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: Right Yeah, so like the first one is like from 249 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: r slash hr. The second one is r slash am 250 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: I theas asshole. Then the third one is r slash 251 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: ask HR's going He's going everywhere for anyone to just 252 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: like hell, what's going on? And this is again r 253 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: slash Ami the Asshole. So I've had a bad few weeks. 254 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I've just lost my job due to a misjudgment on 255 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: my part. My company overreacted in my opinion and dismiss me. 256 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: I've had to accept this and move on, but it's 257 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: been hard to keep afloat. I've got two minimum wage 258 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: jobs in unrelated areas. I've only just started them and 259 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: already absolutely hate them. They are boring and brutal. I'm 260 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: quickly eating into savings and I'm desperately looking for something 261 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: similar to before. I'm applying for jobs, but nothing yet. 262 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: It's awful at the moment, and I'm really worried. My 263 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: best friend or boyfriend, Dave, and his older brother Kieran, 264 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: both work at the same company, but in different functions. 265 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: Kieran is more senior and has been there longer. Dave 266 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: hasn't been there long and got the job through his 267 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: We went to his parents for dinner the other night. 268 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: Kieran and his girlfriend were there too, I've always gotten 269 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: well with all of them and they know my situation 270 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: and have generally been supportive. It came out accidentally, which 271 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: stung a bit, that there is a vacancy at their company, 272 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: similar to my previous job. I asked about it, and 273 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: Dave couldn't help had it known about it, didn't know 274 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: the people involved or what the job was. Kieran did 275 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: know and could have helped, but was noncommittal and vague, 276 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: but I kept asking and he provided more details. So 277 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: this is Op's boyfriend's brother, Kieran. I thought I could 278 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: definitely do it, and it was really enthusiastic, But Kieran's like, oh, 279 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: like I don't know. Like he's just kind of being like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 280 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: maybe you apply, you know Sean go on LinkedIn or something. Yeah. 281 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: I asked him if I could apply, and he wasn't 282 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: keen at all and said he didn't think it was 283 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: a good fit and not my thing. He knows anything 284 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: would be a fit at the moment, Like basically, Op's like, 285 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm down for anything. I said it sounded perfect and 286 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to apply and asked him to put a 287 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: good word in for me. He still didn't sound happy. 288 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: About it and kept making lame excuses. He's like, I 289 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: don't want to vouch for a guy that takes sickly 290 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: of willy nilly. Yeah. 291 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: Maybe, essentially, I am kind of this. This is me 292 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: just assuming, but I'm kind of reading in between the lines. 293 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: And maybe OP is not the highest grade in the 294 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: dispensary if you get what I'm saying, Like, maybe. 295 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: This person isn't super sharp. 296 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: If they're like man, I put, there's a picture on 297 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: Facebook and they can use that as evidence, like it 298 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: is literally evidence. 299 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're not the sharpest bulb in the drawer. 300 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you both just said two different things I've never 301 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 5: heard before. Highst grade and the dispensary. Clever bulb, the 302 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 5: sharpest bulb in the drawer. Yeah, you know sharp bulbs. 303 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 5: You know what they say about sharp bulbs. 304 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: They hurt your eyes. 305 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Yes, great, save there go. So he said it was 306 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: a different department, he wasn't the hiring manager and couldn't 307 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: influence it. I was free to apply, but he couldn't 308 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: really recommend me. I asked, why not, as he'd recommended 309 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Dave for a job in a different department than his 310 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: Mom got involved backing me up. Saying family was important 311 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: and I was a great worker, but a budin eighty. 312 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: He argued for a bit with us, then said he 313 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: not had concerns about Dave, but he did have concerns 314 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: about me after everything that's happened, and thinking he was 315 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: on my side. Wow. I got annoyed and probably shouted 316 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: a bit and asked him what he meant. He said, 317 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: I had work ethic and attitude problems, and I didn't 318 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: get fired for nothing, and he wasn't prepared to harm 319 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: his own career recommending someone who he had concerns about. 320 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: He said family loyalty also meant me not harming him 321 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: at work. I couldn't believe it and said so his 322 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: mom agreed with me, and there was a big row 323 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: us versus Kieran. Then Dave also got involved, NASA's mom 324 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: to back off and me to leave it, which was 325 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: even more hurtful. We left soon after, and Dave is 326 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: now annoyed with me for causing the fight. All I'm 327 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: trying to do is get back on my feet and 328 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: be given another chance, and I feel so unsupported. We 329 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: had another fight and he blames me for that. So 330 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: am I the asshole? And there is more from this 331 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: sad sorry subtle bit. 332 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 5: I love that the verdict for this one was full 333 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 5: and they have no context of all the other things. 334 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: That's right, right, it was just that this So you 335 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: keep skidding the asshole even though they're trying to get 336 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: like a fresh start in every new stub Reddit. 337 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, So like two sides. 338 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: One side, I always like respect the hustle of like 339 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: there's a respectable way to be, like I'm gonna shoot 340 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: my shot and like let me like go for it. 341 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: But on the other side, for like Kieran the Brother, 342 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: I feel for him because like, if you're gonna put 343 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: a recommendation in that does reflect on you and who 344 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: knows the politics of this company, maybe that's like a 345 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: really big deal. And like at the end of the day, 346 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: you do want to like put someone or suggest someone 347 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: in that position that'll actually do well and like reflect 348 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: well on you. I think maybe maybe both a little 349 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: bit the a hole. 350 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: So you think Kieran the a hole for maybe not 351 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: doing really anything for O P because potentially like how 352 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: much here's how how much does a recommendation really like 353 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: really do it? Yeah? 354 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: And like also here and at least could have sat 355 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: down and be like, hey, look like maybe just given 356 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: like OPI the four one one of like, here's the company, 357 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: here's how they operate. They're probably not going to like this, 358 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: this and this and like, but if you do it 359 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: this way, you might have like you could have a 360 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: higher chance of success. I think op and he could 361 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: be like like, I'll be honest, like I don't know 362 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: if if like they would be like really clamoring to 363 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: have you in, but let me give you this advice 364 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: and like give you this support in this way. 365 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like yeah, And I could say like, hey, 366 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: I know you and he is. But the thing is, like, 367 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: what if he's just a total n incompoop. That's the 368 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: one hundred percent one hundred percent really hard to recommend 369 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: a ningcompoop? Yeah, have you ever recommended an income poop? 370 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. 371 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: I feel like I've yeah, for odd jobs. 372 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I did have a we've kind of offloaded ningcompoops a 373 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: little bit, Yes we have. 374 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: And also I had a guy call me one time, 375 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: literally it was like two years after I'd met him, 376 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: and he wanted me to introm to an investor that 377 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: I like. It was Tim Draper from the from the 378 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: reality show. And this was like like two and a 379 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: half years after I was on the show, and I 380 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: was like, bro, like I can't just like text him 381 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: and be like what's. 382 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Up, dog? 383 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: Like I got this guy, he's got this crazy And no, 384 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't work like that. 385 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Also, like I had people, like people that were kind 386 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: of like dicks to me reach out and ask for 387 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: like people I've been connected to, and I'm like, in 388 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: what world, Yeah, I one barely know you too. I 389 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: don't think I even like you, And but it sounded 390 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: like you didn't like me. Why are you asking for 391 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: this out of the deserve that? 392 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: But on the flip side, like you and me were like, hey, 393 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: we're like, you know, doing good in this creator game, 394 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: and like if there's like a creator we want to 395 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: collab with, and we see them, like you know what, 396 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: let's like go up and like just shoot our shots, 397 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: say what's up, and maybe we can build a relationship 398 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: to do a collab like. 399 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: And then I don't do and then cry if they 400 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: don't in front of. 401 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: Them, and then cry if they don't in front of them, 402 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: but like legitimately like shooting our shot for maybe like 403 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: above our league, but like putting our best foot forward 404 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: in a respectable way. There's also nothing wrong with that. 405 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. I don't think there's anything 406 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: wrong with asking. I think there's something wrong with pressuring. Yes, 407 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: there we go. That's it. 408 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: So I'm saying a whole, both sides, a whole, both sides. 409 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: Let me know. Listen, fight me in the comments below. Recently, 410 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: I had a flip thing where a guy I haven't 411 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: talked to since high school, didn't really like have much 412 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: interact with him, hit me up on LinkedIn and asked 413 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: for an intro to this company that I know. Yeah, 414 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: because his company wanted to invest and they ended up 415 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: investing and it worked out. 416 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: That's cool. 417 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't really know him that well. And 418 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: then the friend I did know decently well, and yeah, 419 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: it worked out. 420 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: We've had crazy intros that didn't make any sense and 421 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: then the people loved us, and we're like, this is amazing. 422 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: Something can't happen. John and I were a coold intro 423 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: from a friend. That is true. That is true, so 424 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: it can work out, yes, but but don't be an 425 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: ahole about it. But don't be an a whole. And 426 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: I feel I was like, Op's being a little bit 427 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: in aole about it, so let's get into the next up, dude. 428 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: So everyone said, Ope's an apple ouch. Everyone the comments 429 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: from Ope. I took sick leave when I wasn't sick, 430 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: then went on holiday, like I said, stupid miss joke, 431 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: which I know others did as well, but I got caught. 432 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: I will never do this again, which is why I 433 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: was hoping for another chance. As you now know, I 434 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: called it in the six because I'd run out of 435 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: annuel leave and had opportunity of a last minute holiday. 436 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: My friends posted pics on Facebook and some of my 437 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: colleagues saw it was a stupid thing to do, but 438 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't the only one doing this, so probably didn't 439 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: think enough about it until now. I do accept it now, though, 440 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: and We'll never do anything like this again, which is 441 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: why I'm hoping for another chance. I was upset because 442 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Kieran was initially supportive and gave me advice and told 443 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: me I could turn it around. So this feels like 444 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: a huge slap in the face from him. 445 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: Kieran lied to her. 446 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Opie's like, I think Opie's a him? Yeah? 447 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: Is it to him? 448 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 449 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: Actually, I mean talking out on my booty. 450 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: Perhaps she said they said they had a boyfriend. 451 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: But did we ever get I don't even know. I 452 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: just assumed it was a dude, but it could be a. 453 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: I think I said he as well, but not even knowing. 454 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if we ever gendered OPI anyway. 455 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: What's the wrong for me to do that? 456 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: It was terrible? Yeah, how dare you discussed cancel? I 457 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: discussed me too, So I guess like something that is 458 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: hard about the Kieran situation is like Kieran's like, Hey, 459 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: you're going to turn this around. I'm just not gonna 460 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: be the one to help, Like that is a rough role. 461 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Then help me turn around, buddy. So there is an 462 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: updates on May thirteenth, twenty twenty three. So I posted 463 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: a few times just before and just after I lost 464 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: my job. Looking back now, I'm embarrassed about how entitled 465 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: I sounded, but I was in a bit of a 466 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: shock and disbelief and not really thinking straight at the time. 467 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: I worked at my previous job for nearly two years. 468 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: The culture and enforcement around time keeping and attendance was 469 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: quite lax. It was well known that people called in 470 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: sick when they weren't. People called in if they needed 471 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: a day off for a school thing for their kids 472 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: or for a hangover. Everyone knew they were doing it. 473 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: Nothing happened as results, right or wrong. It happened. I 474 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: got used to it, and like others, sometimes abused it. 475 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: It wasn't the best, but also not the worst. But 476 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: we got a new head of department. I now see 477 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: she wanted to change this culture. They did some announcements 478 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: slash warnings, but I didn't pick up exactly what was 479 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: being said. My fault totally, so I ran out of annually. 480 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: Eve wanted a holiday, and like others, I just called 481 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: in sick. I did this at a time when my 482 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: department was very busy. It was bad for my colleagues 483 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: and I get them being annoyed with me. Some of 484 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: them found out I was away from my friend's post 485 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: and told my manager, who took it through disciplinary processes 486 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: and they sacked me. I later found out from one 487 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: of the ex colleagues that I handed it to the 488 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: company on a plate. I gave them the perfect case, 489 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: gave them all the evidence, etc. So they could sack 490 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: me as a warning to everyone else. The absent rate 491 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: is apparently great. Now, how stupid am I? I went 492 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: into a shock and panic when I was sacked. I 493 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: was scared about being homeless and never getting another job. 494 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: I applied via agencies and got short term work, lots 495 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: of it. It was hard as for my post. I 496 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: found out about a job at my boyfriend and his 497 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: brother's employer, which was similar to what I'd done, and 498 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: thought if I got that, I wouldn't have any gaps 499 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: at my resume. I see now how inconsidered I was 500 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: to both of them, especially Kieran, who would have had 501 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: to vouch me. I've apologized to Kieran and he's accepted it. 502 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: I also apologized to their mom. Dave did know about it, 503 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: by the way, but just felt easier not to. Kieran 504 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: knowingly took the rap for him. So I got lots 505 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: of short term agency minimum wage job. So basically, Dave, 506 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: who is Opie's boyfriend, knew about the job but didn't 507 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: want to recommend op either, and so put it on 508 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: his brother Kira Wow, and I was like, yeah, you 509 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: take the heat for this. I got a job in 510 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: a pub kitchen. I've since been promoted to the bar. 511 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: I burnt my arm on the night of Dave's sisters 512 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: engagement party, which I couldn't get the night off for. Incidentally, 513 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 1: on that night, Dave's mom had a few drinks and 514 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: told lots of family members why I wasn't there? 515 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: Nice this week, it's the mop. Next week it's the fries. 516 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: To be clear, good Kanye reference. Yeah, I know hip hop. 517 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 6: Pod, I got it, I got it, got that ambitions. 518 00:22:49,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 6: Look at his Yeah, that's nice. 519 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: For a white girl. Get down, girl, go ahead, get down, 520 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: Get down, down girl, go ahead. 521 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 4: Get down. Have you heard about the workplace abus he's 522 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: getting sued for. No, Okay, it's kind of funny. 523 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: Apparently he hates that story. Yes, he did tell me that. 524 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: Oh wait, wait, I want to say a few things. 525 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. 526 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: Employee said he's threatened them and speaking in a Mario's voice, 527 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: so like he's threatening them in Mario's voice. Employees claim 528 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: Ye threatened him by saying I'm going to punch you 529 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 5: in the face, before abruptly changing tone, mimicking Super Mario's 530 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: victory dance and saying I'm going to give you another 531 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 5: I'm going to give you one more chance, another life. 532 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: So he's like I'm going to punch you in the face, 533 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna give you one more ton so and 534 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: then he. 535 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Said, that's fucking crazy. 536 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: He said he told employees if they got fat, he 537 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 5: would fire them. You went on a rant and had 538 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: staff members come to a meeting room and watch the 539 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: Batman the new One mute in silence. 540 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: I could never, never, genius, I could fucking never. Oh 541 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: my god, hopefully. 542 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Start calling Riley into rooms. Explains, don't get fast. Wow, 543 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully Opie's boss is not like that. That's crazy anyway, 544 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: all right, editors, you can cut a good check of that. Yeah. 545 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: So one on the plus side, I ended up getting 546 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: an evening job cleaning offices through Dave's Auntie. I still 547 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: got it until I feel more secure about the other jobs. 548 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 1: One of the longer short term positions I got, I 549 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: was sacked for being late due to an accident on 550 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: the motorway. It really opened my eyes to what should 551 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: be on time or. 552 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: I never realized that being on time was so important. 553 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm now working in a similar job to the one 554 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: I lost, but for far less money and longer hours. 555 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: There is regular overtime six to two on Saturday, and 556 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: I am at the moment, keeping my pub job and 557 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: cleaning jobs, I'm taking home a bit more. The main 558 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: job is going okay. The company is good and long 559 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: term there may well be more prospects than previously. I 560 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: am being the perfect employ and intend to remain so. 561 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: Around the same time as my post, Kieran and his 562 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: partner announced they were expecting a baby, so I obviously 563 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: was not a priority. Their sister announced their engagement in 564 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: the party I missed, and lots of commentsars have expressed 565 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: their hope that Dave would leave me lovely. He didn't. 566 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: I now think it was because he didn't have the guts. 567 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: We aren't together anymore my decision, though. I think he 568 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: was relieved, not really anything to do with this. He's 569 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: seeing someone else now, he says they met after we 570 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: split up. I don't believe him, but what can I do. 571 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Some redditors will be pleased, no doubt. I randomly saw 572 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Kieran after this. He said he thought we weren't right together, 573 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: that I needed someone to stand up to me more, 574 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: and Dave wasn't. It made me feel strangely better. Somehow, 575 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: I actually feel I will miss Kieran more than Dave. 576 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: He was like a big brother. He'll be a great 577 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: dad anyway. Yes, I was the a hole. I got 578 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: a lot of nasty comments in DMA, but also got 579 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot of great advice and support. Life is quite 580 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: hard at the moment, but I'm working to make it better. 581 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: And there is another up. Oh my god, you know, 582 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: I hope Opie's life gets up better. 583 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: Maybe, oh, we don't know, it's for sure. Maybe Opie's 584 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: an idiot, but it's very sad. 585 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: What's happening to this idiot? Yeah, oh gosh, relevant comments. 586 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: So Steven Allen nineteen seventy seven says, thanks for the update. 587 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: Seems unlike most of the posters and am and the 588 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: a hole, you took on the advice given. And I 589 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: have been working hard to be a better person, better 590 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: to make a mistake early in life and move forward 591 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: from the experience. And Opie says thanks. I really don't 592 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: want to screw up my life more than I have 593 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: already appreciate the comments. And then Dinah Tuk says, I 594 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: saw this post when you posted in the wrong sub earlier. 595 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: I just wanted to message you and say that it 596 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: was wonderful that you took the comments and use that 597 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: as a moment to reflect on what happened in your choices. 598 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: It really sounds like you were focused on moving forward 599 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: in a better way. That's wonderful. I hope things continue 600 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: to look up for you and you continue learning from 601 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: your mistakes to be a better, stronger, and happier version 602 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: of you and be happier than you were when you 603 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: first post about the situation. And then OPI responds thanks. 604 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: That means a lot. And there is one final update 605 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: seven months later from December twenty first, twenty twenty three, 606 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: So almost a year we've we've gotten over like a 607 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: full saga. 608 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: Can I make a conspiracy theory? 609 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? The conspiracy hats are in the closet, I. 610 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 4: Can get them, Okay, Okay. 611 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: So I think that OP has like turned a new 612 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: leaf here, and it's like I am being responsible, I 613 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 2: am being on top of it. I am not thinking 614 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: that posting face for photos of what I'm doing is 615 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: gonna have no consequences, buckled down for a year and 616 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: is like absolutely killing it, making a bunch of money, 617 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: maybe even a new Boothang. 618 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm throwing down the gauntlet on this prediction. I'm putting it. 619 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: So you're saying, like Opie's life way better, way better. Well, 620 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: let's find out and go back to reality. Really, so, 621 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: going back to the update, just realized it's been a 622 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: full year since I first posted on Reddit that I 623 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: was worried I was going to be sacked for wrongly 624 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: declaring I was sick when I wasn't. I got sick, 625 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: pay to go on a last minute cheapy holiday company 626 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: found out I lost my job. I was stupid. Well, 627 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: this Christmas is going to be amazing in comparison last Christmas. 628 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I spent the entire time worrying, and then I got 629 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: fired in January. Well, posting on Reddit was also stupid, 630 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: and yet here I am again. Everyone hated me and 631 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: the dms were horrible. They maybe mean again, but I 632 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: want to feel some people might be nicer this time. 633 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: So I spent a lot of this year working long 634 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: hours in minimum wage jobs, but did eventually get a 635 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: job similar to the one I lost on lower money, 636 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: but more over time, with two other part time jobs 637 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: to support, still doing one in a pub, but leaving 638 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: after Christmas because they've made me permanence. Hey, I know 639 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't have full employee rights for two years, but 640 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: it's going so well. And I'm getting good feedback. I 641 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: also trust myself not to fuck up again. Happy Christmas, everybody. Okay, 642 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: So OPI at the pub was like got a big 643 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: promotion or no, no, no, Opie's lead like the main job 644 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: that was similar to their job at the very beginning 645 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: the when they got fired from Yeah, they got that 646 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: job and it had like less it had more hours 647 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: and less pay. But now full time on that job. 648 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: Now full time kind of back in the saddle, so 649 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: to speak. 650 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: Back in the saddle, no boothing, no boothing, and really 651 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: op just has is right where they started well with 652 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: less a boothing. 653 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: I feel like we're trying to take down my incredible 654 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: conspiracy theory prediction skills because, in my opinion, guys, did 655 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: I predict. 656 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: That I predict no boothing? 657 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: I said, maybe even a booth thing roll in the day, 658 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: roll it. 659 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: I am glad Opie is in a better position this Christmas. 660 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: And I am glad I'm amazing at predicting things. 661 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: You know what, I will give you that yay, But 662 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: you know what I want you to give me what 663 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: this next story? Let's do it? 664 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for refusing to be made 665 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: of honor over a bridesmaid, causing her to get. 666 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: Fired another fired episode. Is this the fired episode? I 667 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: think this is the episode. I want to know why 668 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: they got fired. 669 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 2: Also, are we getting fired? 670 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: I hope not firing us. 671 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: We are going to have a talk after this. 672 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: That's This comes from Bride'smaid Ultimatum, a very app user 673 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: name who says, the people in this story are my 674 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: best friend Jane or brother Elliott and his girlfriend of 675 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: two years Kathy. My best friend Jane is marrying her 676 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: fiance Tom in July, and she asked me to be 677 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: her maid of honor. First sentence. This was sort of expected, 678 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: as my friend Jane is essentially a sister to me. 679 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: I was surprised, however, that she asked her brother's girlfriend 680 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: Kathy to be a bridesmaid. My friend Jane later confirmed 681 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: that Cassie had kind of pressured her into it, and 682 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: she had done it to make her brother Elliot happy. 683 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: Done what So there's this like not nice you know 684 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: which words we can't say? 685 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: It start with a b bonnet. 686 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: But her brother's girlfriend, she doesn't like her, and but 687 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: the brothers like yo on the way make her a 688 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: bridesmaid and she's like fine, fine, So op. He's not 689 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: happy about this either, mind you. 690 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: Oh, he's not happy about this. 691 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: Kathy also becoming a bridesmaid. I think she's like, she's 692 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: not a girl. 693 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: Kathy is like an honorary bridesmaid. 694 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: She is an official bridesmaid. 695 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: Official bridesmaid. But they're just including her because they have to. 696 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: It's a pity party. It's a pity bridesmaid invite. She's 697 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: not a girl's girl. 698 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: You you know what I'm talking about, ladies out there, ladies. 699 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: My girlfriend says that all the time. So there girls girl. Yeah, 700 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: she says it all the time. The issue is Kathy 701 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: hates me. Well, there you go. 702 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: Is a big issue. A bridesmaid hates the maid of honor. 703 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Like seriously hates me. She blames me for all the 704 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: issues she has with her boyfriend Elliott and Jane's parents, 705 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: all all, every single one, and for her not having 706 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: a better relationship with my friend Jane. She also thinks 707 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: that I'm trying to steal Elliott from her. 708 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: I am not, oh my god, insecure much. 709 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 2: This is sounding like a maniac already, but also cannot 710 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: handle whenever he and I disagree on anything, and will 711 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: go way overboard defending him and arguing with me. I 712 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: was determined to put all this aside for my good 713 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: friend Jane. Though this was actually not going too badly. 714 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: But last weekend we went to a bridle shop to 715 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: choose bride's maid stresses. If you guys have watched Winning 716 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: Stories on the show before, many a situation has gone 717 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 2: down around the bridle shops. 718 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: Are just places that are filled with emotions, both good 719 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: and bad. Yeah, honestly, I'd be terrified anything can happen anything, 720 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: All bets are off. As Gabe from the Office says 721 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: he loves Maternity Wards because things can go so wrong 722 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: or so so right. What does that even mean? Because 723 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: he loves horror movies and so he's like, I love 724 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: Maternity Awards because it could be either a horror movie 725 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: or it could be just like a little baby being born. 726 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: I did not know that was like a troph in 727 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: horror movies. 728 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: I guess I should know. It's just it's just that 729 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: the fact that like a maybe and a mom could 730 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: die in an instant, or you have a new life. Wow, 731 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: damn Gabe. 732 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: Well, Jane mentioned that she wanted me and Elliott to 733 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: walk down the aisle together and Kathy lost it. I mean, 734 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: walking down the aisle with her boyfriend. 735 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't she just why wouldn't the actual boyfriend walk down? 736 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: I think so. I think why is because. 737 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: Elliott is made of honor and man of a maid 738 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: of honor and groomsman. Groom Yeah, the best man, maid 739 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: of honor, best man. I think that's what. I think. 740 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: That's so that that does actually kind of makes sense, 741 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: for that's such money, right. She called me desperate, crazy, 742 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: a pick me, a fake, a fat, and a bunch 743 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: of other things. A fat Okay, there's no a in fat, 744 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: but there was a fake and fat. 745 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: A fake and fat. Yeah, so I get fat. 746 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: I said, a fake and a fat. 747 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: So there you go, fake and a faty. 748 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: Looking back, I probably should have said more than I did, 749 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: but at that moment, I could see how everyone was 750 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: looking at her, and I didn't want them looking at 751 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: me the same way. So I literally just said, yeah, 752 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm not kneeling that this either she's out or I am, 753 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: and picked up my stuff and left. This is the 754 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 2: part where I have to pause right here and ask 755 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: every single person watching, and Samuel Donner is ope the 756 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 2: a hole for saying this because she's out remembered she's 757 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: out of her friend's wedding. 758 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: The friend is being punished. I feel like the friend 759 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't be punished for this stinky woman's actions. So I 760 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: would say, ope, a little bit the a hole. She 761 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to endure these insults. But maybe talk to 762 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: the bride and be like, hey, this is what's going on, Like, 763 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: can we remedy this, because it's really hard to have 764 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: any kind of peace in this smilence. 765 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe go in together and try to get because Jane, 766 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: her friend, she doesn't want Kathy in the winning either. 767 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I guess, well, actually you need to go 768 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: to the grooms, Ben, I guess right, because or the uh, 769 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: the Elliott husband would. 770 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: Say, yeah, so Kathy is the bride's brother's girlfriend. 771 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: Kathy is the bride's brothers the bride's brothers girl. 772 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: Wait yeah, yeah, so so Kathy's getting married, right, yeah, 773 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: And then her brother was like, yo, put my girlfriend 774 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: in Like I thought it was the husband's sister. 775 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: It is the bride's brother's girlfriend. Yeah, I thought it 776 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: was the bride's fiance's sister. So it is just a 777 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: brother's girlfriend. Yeah, you can kick her out right, she 778 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: does not that's too I couldn't like I could maybe 779 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: understand the husband's sister, right, like I would want my 780 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: sister included in like the wedding party. 781 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: But that is crazy flip scenario though. Sophia's got a boyfriend. 782 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: Not a chance even like as just a groomsman in 783 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: the Not a chance, not a chance, not a chance, 784 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: a chance unless I was friends with him. 785 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, like if he was an ahole, which of course 786 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: he never would be because Sophie would never zero percent, 787 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: zero percent chance. Sophia says, put him in. No, you 788 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 2: won't listen to the worm queen. 789 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: Even if they were married. 790 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 4: I would be like, n because because would I put 791 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 4: him in. 792 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: I'm not friends with them. 793 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the groomsmen are supposed to That's like, that's 794 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: like your boys. 795 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Well I'm friends with you. That's different. 796 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: That's different because it's like the grooms men are your boys, 797 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: and the and the bride's maids are your girls like 798 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: that that's your homies. 799 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: Yeah wait, dude, I totally misunderstood the beginning of this story. 800 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: This person should not be in the Are we sure? 801 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: Can we go back? Let's let's double check, because there 802 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: is no fucking way so it's spelled out very nicely here. 803 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: The people in the story are my best friend Jane, 804 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: Jane is getting married, her brother Elliot, and Elliott's girlfriend, Kathy. 805 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: And Kathy is the one that is causing all these 806 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: problems because she's a bridesmaid. It is the brother's the 807 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: bride's brother's girlfriend. Yeah, that's wild. 808 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: Get her out of here, get the get right, would you? 809 00:36:59,560 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: Yeah? 810 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: I the problem is that you don't bring her in 811 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: to begin with. Yeah, exactly. 812 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: Now they're but they're kind of f now because it's like, Okay, 813 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: you already brought her in, and like, kicking someone out 814 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: is so much. 815 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: Hard much harder. But I think, honestly, at this point, 816 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: well deserved. 817 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: Right because now you're losing your best friend and made 818 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: of honor, you're number one. 819 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: I think it's it's I feel like it's fairly whacked 820 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: for op to just be like I'm leaving, Yes, like, 821 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: because the wrong person to put it. I think I 822 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: think it's a Obviously, Kathy is being a massive a hole. 823 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: Is Kathy? Yeah, Kathy's being a massive a hole? But yeah, 824 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: I like I think Opie's a little bit the a 825 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: hole for that reaction because it's punishing the wrong person. Yes, 826 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: there we go much, there's more to the story. 827 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 2: So I apologize to my friend Jane for the drama 828 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: and offered her a long weekend of babysitting and some 829 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: flowers to make up for it. And she accepted it 830 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: and we're okay now. So Opie recognizes what she said 831 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 2: in the moment was wrong and is trying to make 832 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: amends here. 833 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: Because of this, Jane. 834 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 2: Said that Kathy can't be a bridesmaid anymore because she 835 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 2: wants me as a maid of honor. 836 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: So yes, we're back where we should be. Easiest decision 837 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: of my life. Yes, yes. 838 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: However, this has caused issues with Kathy and her brother 839 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 2: Elliott by extension. Both Elliott and Kathy have apologized and 840 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: said that Kathy will behave better for all of the 841 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: wedding events. No, she'll behave better. No, it'll be better. 842 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: You get one chance, but you've overstayed your welcome. I'm 843 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: not willing to budge good. Opie's with you, Oh, Pie's 844 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: with you. 845 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: Jane's mother and my mother both think I should drop 846 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 2: the ultimatum, and I don't want to make things hard 847 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: on Jane, So I am rethinking it, but I know 848 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: there's other things she will try to cause issues with 849 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 2: me over and I just don't know how long I 850 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: can keep being the bigger person with her. So am 851 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: I the ahole for causing this drama? Ladies and gentlemen 852 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: answers and comments? Is ope the a hole for this? 853 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: I honestly think it is the best for four the 854 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: wedding for Kathy to jump in a dumpster and be 855 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: exported to France. 856 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: Yes, with all the stinky women all made sense on 857 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 2: so many levels. My French don't like the odorant. 858 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: Dude, that's respect. That was good. 859 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: All the mistresses they have and stuff. 860 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's also they're also stinky. For that 861 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: totally alienated any French people watching. That's okay, Yeah, it's 862 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: all good. It's just it's a preferences preference, That's what 863 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Anyways, Yeah, I think Kathy is not only 864 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: detrimental to opie sanity, but for the sanity of the 865 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: entire wedding party. 866 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: Und you like, like Opie's literally said, you don't know 867 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: what she's going to do or make an issue of. 868 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't invite a crazy person to an event 869 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: that you don't want to be crazy. 870 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 2: What if she's like, why do I not get to 871 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: cut the cake first? I'm going to cut you instead? 872 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 1: Exactly, You don't know what Kathy's gonna do. Is Kathy's 873 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: going to Kathy? But hey, if you want an interesting wedding, 874 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, like everyone as like, oh I kiss the bride, 875 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: kiss the groom, first dance and stuff. But if you 876 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: want someone to potentially stab you at the cake cutting, 877 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: that is a memory you'll have for a lifetime. Crazy 878 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: that goes crazy. Everyone will be like, hey, the wedding 879 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: was so beautiful, but remember when Kathy tried to stab 880 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: the bride. Wow, what a moment. Yeah, yeah, that is 881 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: something I can't remember. If you want someone to remember 882 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: your wedding, invite Kathy for all the wrong reasons, for 883 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: all the wrong reasons, but you know it is a 884 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: right reason to want something from you. 885 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 4: Okay, nice 886 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: Friend,