1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinal Territory a special girls addition. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: I'm Katie Wu. That is Alexa Dat. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: We are so excited to be here with you as 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: we reached the official halfway mark of spring training and 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: time flies when you're having fun, Alexa, thank you so 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: much for coming on. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm really happy here, Katie. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: This is gonna be so fun. Thank you so much 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: for having me. And first of all, you're hosting Skills 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: because I've been watching the podcast. Obviously you're crushing it girl, 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: and I can say that from experience like watching you 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: evolve as you host this podcast. It's been so fun 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: and you're like your talent level is exponentially increasing with 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: every pod, so keep it up. 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Oh I'm so proud so much you are, Girl, Danny Wex, Woman, 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Michelle Smallman, Saint Louis girls do you guys just do 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: an incredible job and make me better. 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: So love that about you. 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: But let's talk a little bit about you because one 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: of the main reasons I wanted to bring you on 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: the show, not just because of your excellent insight as 22 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: the host and reporter for fanduels where it's oh my gosh, 23 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on this fandal Sports Network Midwest. 24 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: There we go to go for the Cardinals and Blues 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: is because you made a little bit of history a 26 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, did you not? I did. Yeah, 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: you look at me in this photo. Oh my gosh, 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: I was. 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: I was writing all the emotions, Katie. I was excited, 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: I was nervous. 31 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: I was. 32 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: I felt like, you know, a big girl, but kind 33 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: of like also a child at the same time fulfilling 34 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: a dream. I felt like I was carrying the dreams 35 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: of so many other young girls on my back too. 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 4: It was. 37 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: It was a lot in. 38 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: That moment, But honestly, to me, it was one of 39 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: those experiences that it's more about what it's going to 40 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: do down the road for other people and for young 41 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: girls who are watching, to be able to hear the 42 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: voice of a female play by play and go like, 43 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: oh hey, look, I can do that too, because think 44 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: about it. Growing up, I mean, we listened to Brent 45 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: Musburger and Joe Buck and Babcostas, And to me, I 46 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: love athletes, right and I respect them and the work 47 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: that they put in. But my heroes are broadcasters. They 48 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: always had and I like stand for them and and 49 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: you know, I get really nervous meeting them because they're 50 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: the true to me, you know, people that I look 51 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: up to and that I want to be when you 52 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: when I grow up. So the fact that I was 53 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: able to be able to sit in that chair, it 54 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: was kind of like a big full circle moment for 55 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: me from when I was a little kid. 56 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: I love that, and I mean it's so important, as 57 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: you and I both know, to have some representation in 58 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: baseball and for you to be the first woman in 59 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinal's history, a very long history with this organization, 60 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: mind you to be the lead play by play announcer. 61 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: How surreal was that when you got the call that 62 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: this was going to be an opportunity for you. 63 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: I came to Saint Louis with the idea of working 64 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: for a legendary franchise in baseball. Obviously we know the 65 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: Cardinals pedigree. It's you know, up there on par with 66 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: any organization in baseball, and so for me to come 67 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: from New York to Saint Louis, I made the decision 68 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: that you know, working alongside the Cardinals, working for the 69 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: network that airs the Cardinals games, was going to be 70 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: a pretty. 71 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: You know big deal for me. 72 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 3: And when I was hired here by my boss, his 73 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: mentality was, we want you to be growth oriented here, right, 74 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: there are different opportunities that we're going to provide you 75 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 3: with as your time progresses here in Saint Louis. And 76 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: you know, this had kind of been a small conversation 77 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 3: that grew into a bigger one as one of those opportunities. 78 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: And he said, you know, we're going to check in 79 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: with the Cardinals see what they think, obviously, and once 80 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: we got their blessing, Larry, my boss was like, hey, 81 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 3: you're good to go. We're going to give you four 82 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: games this spring. And my mind was kind of blown. 83 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I knew that this was a thought process 84 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: from my early time here, but also at the same time, 85 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: it's like, you never really know what kind of opportunities 86 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: you're going to get. You just got to kind of 87 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: make the most of them when you get them. And yeah, 88 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: getting that calling and I freaked out. 89 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: I called. 90 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: I was with my boyfriend and his family in Australia 91 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: and I kind of freaked out in the car. 92 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: I called my parents. They were super happy for me, 93 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: my brother too, and. 94 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: It was just a surreal experience to be able to say, like, 95 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: this is something that you know, I've thought about doing 96 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: for a really long time. The fact that I'm finally 97 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: going to be able to do it, yeah, okay, big 98 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: girl stuff. 99 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: It was big girl stuff. And I remember seeing. 100 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: You walk onto the field at Roger Dean the morning 101 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: before you're broadcast, cool, calm, collected, rocking the heck out 102 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: of that polo. We actually, I think, need to have 103 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: a separate, separate conversation women that work in sports. 104 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: We need more than just a polo. Okay, we need 105 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: more variety. 106 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: So if you're listening out there, every sports company in 107 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: the world, give us more options, no more polos. But 108 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: you looked great, and it was it was so great 109 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: to see, like, not just as someone that I respect 110 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: very much and someone that you know, even before we 111 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: worked in the same market. I was like, yeah, this 112 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: girl rocks, but now is a close friend of mine. 113 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: To just see you walk up and not look rattled 114 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: at all. And I'm not going to speak for you 115 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: on what was maybe going on under the surface, but 116 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: I think like the biggest tell of where you are 117 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: as a professional and how you were going to crush 118 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: this opportunity was five minutes before you're on air. You 119 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: scare me in the press box because you're crouching behind 120 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: my seat just eating an apple casual, Like, hey, what 121 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: are you doing? 122 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what are you doing? 123 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: Should you be on the air? And it was That's 124 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: what I knew you were going to be fine. What 125 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: was that when the game started? 126 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: What was it like? 127 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: And what was the lead up with with Brad Thompson 128 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: And did he tell you anything, give you any advice? 129 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Little? Did you know? 130 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: By the way, that was the first time I'd eaten 131 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: in like four days of that apple? Yeah, exactly, No, 132 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: it was. I mean, it was the situation where I 133 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: called as many people as I could. I got Jenny 134 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: Kavanar on the phone. She's a really good friend, and 135 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: got advice from her, and she's like, listen, I've messed 136 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: up before, you're gonna mess up. 137 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: Just keep going. You've earned this opportunity. 138 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: This is for all the young women out there, like 139 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: you know, obviously that's not to tell you that there's 140 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure, but this is a situation where 141 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: you're like, we're women and we you know, deserve this 142 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: representation and representation matters, So you know, go out there 143 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: and absolutely have a ball. I called Chip Carry because 144 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: he is, I mean, to me, the legendary announcer for 145 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: the Cardinals. And I'm like, what advice do you have 146 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: for me? 147 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Help me out? 148 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: What do you got And he basically said the same 149 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: thing that Joe Buck told him, which is like, in 150 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: your mind, you're going to build it up like this 151 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: big thing. 152 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: It's going to happen, and. 153 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: Then it's gonna be over and you're gonna go back 154 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: to your every day life and everything is going to 155 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: go back to normal, right, And that's exactly how it 156 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: played out. I mean, Chip was one hundred percent correct. 157 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: It built up as this big thing in my mind. 158 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: But once I got on the mic and once I 159 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: sat down next to Brad, Who've worked with for a 160 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: couple of years now, I felt so comfortable. 161 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 2: And he put me at ease and he. 162 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: You know, as everyone was saying, just lean on Brad 163 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: because he's the guy who's been there and been doing 164 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: this for several years and he's so great at what 165 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: he does. Make sure that you know you lean on 166 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: him and he'll help you through any of the tough innings. 167 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: And you know, we did just that. It was a 168 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: rough spring training game. To be honest, it wasn't one 169 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: of those like easy, you know, two hour, fifteen minute. 170 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: Games, but we got through it. 171 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: And the fact that I was down there and got 172 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: that experience at rogersine Chevallet, I got to see the 173 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: players and interact with them and weave some of those 174 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: storylines from talking to them into the broadcast really helped. Yeah, 175 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: I think once it was over, I felt relieved. I 176 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: felt like there was a lot of improvement that I 177 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: could have worked on, but I felt overall pretty proud 178 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: of myself because the amount of work that I've done 179 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: in order to get here, it's starting to pay off. 180 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 3: And then you know, now I'm humbling myself in my 181 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: living room by calling these games on mute to practice 182 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: over and over and over again to get better, right, 183 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 3: because that's how you do it, And then hopefully I 184 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 3: just grow with every single game I do. 185 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Well. 186 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. It really was an excellent broadcast. 187 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: Spring training broadcast are tough. There are like twice as 188 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: many players, there are double numbers. 189 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: Pitchers can come back in. If you're an you can 190 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: like look. 191 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Up and all of a sudden be like, wait, he's 192 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: back in the game, right, that's allowed. But you and 193 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: Brad's are a fantastic job. And again, I'm just so 194 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: proud of you. What an exciting opportunity, and it's going 195 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: to be great to have another season with you by 196 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: my side as my partner in crime. 197 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: We need each other, we know that. Yeah. Absolutely. 198 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: The girl gang that we have with the Cardinals is 199 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: so strong, and it's the fact that we can all 200 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: lean on each other is great. So I really appreciate that, Katie, 201 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: and also honestly for all the young girls watching like 202 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: this is something that we didn't really really have growing up, 203 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: so to be able to provide that for them. I 204 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: got a, you know, a message from a father who 205 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: was like, my young daughter was listening to the spring 206 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: training game and was like, Daddy, there's a female voice 207 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: calling this game. I could do that too. That literally 208 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: makes it all worth it. 209 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: It does, absolutely, So this one's for the girls, yeah, 210 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: because you just never know, and you might meet your 211 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: best friends along the way. 212 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: I know I did. 213 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk. Let's talk some Cardinals baseball before 214 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: you get so emotional and everyone's cameras halfway through it, 215 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of news we're recording this Tuesday night. 216 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: This episode will go live Wednesday morning, right before the 217 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals will have an update on Jordan Walker, who left 218 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Tuesday's split squad game against the Nationals with some left 219 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: knee pain in the third inning. I'm not in Jupiter, obviously. 220 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: That is not a beach behind me. That's my apartment window. 221 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: I'll be back on Sunday. But watching the broadcast on TV, 222 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: look like my first opinion was just that it was 223 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of an awkward route from Jordan, and 224 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: then looking back at it a second time, you could 225 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: see his knee kind of get stuck somewhere. 226 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: Maybe it looked like a divot or a hole. 227 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: Again, I'm not there, so I'm going off the broadcast, 228 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: but you can see like a clear WinCE in his face. 229 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: You hope it's not anything serious, obviously, that would be 230 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: devastating for the Cardinals and Jordan Walker. They did classify 231 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: it for Cardinals pr as left knee pain. He went 232 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: and he's sent uh set forward some image and the 233 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals will have an update tomorrow. But according to Derek Gould, 234 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: who was there in West Palm, said that Ali Marmel 235 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: said this was out of an abundance of precaution certainly 236 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: makes sense when you think about how important Jordan Walker 237 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: is to this club. Alexa, Assuming and we're keeping our 238 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: fingers crossed, we all know how I feel about Jordan 239 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: Walker on this podcast. Assuming everything is all right with Jordan, 240 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna be big for him 241 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: this year to succeed? 242 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: I mean I was gonna say consistency, and now I'm saying, hell, 243 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, it's obviously a big concern if he's not 244 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: able to be out there on the field. One of 245 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: the big storylines going into this season is the dramatic 246 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: improvement that they need to see from Jordan Walker, Nolan 247 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: Gorman and Large new bar Although three of those guys 248 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: to take a big step forward. And you know, Ali 249 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: Marmel talked about it today when they were discussed to 250 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: get on the broadcast and saying, if those three guys do, 251 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: we're going to be a really fun team. If they don't, 252 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: we might not. And he was very frank about it, 253 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: and you know, there's really other way to say it 254 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: or to twist it. Those are the three guys that 255 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: you really need to have big season. So, yeah, fingers 256 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: crossed for Jordan Walker, But I think overall, watching his 257 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: work in the outfield, and he's worked with Jose Kendo, 258 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: and he's worked with John Jay and the different coaches 259 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 3: that he's worked with in order to improve himself in 260 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: the outfield, You've seen remarkable jumps, leaps and bounds throughout 261 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: his career. Defensively, because obviously it was a struggle when 262 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: they first put him out there in the outfield, but 263 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: watching him improve there, you obviously he's gonna be a 264 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: big piece for this outfield this season. And offensively too. 265 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: You know, obviously they tweaked a swing several times last year, 266 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: but I do think that there's some consistency with a 267 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: new hitting coach this year too, And there's a different philosophy, 268 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: which is basically saying, there are several different guys who 269 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: learn in different ways, and they hear what you're saying 270 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: to them in a different way as well, and I 271 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: have to learn that language brand around the new hitting 272 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: coach says. And when that's the kind of approach that 273 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: you come to a new team with, which is basically 274 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: like I'm going to learn each guy's philosophy and how 275 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: they hear me, it really creates this kind of a 276 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: culture of community and consistency that I think that. 277 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: Jordan Walker's really going to benefit from. 278 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: So, yeah, fingers crossed and he's okay, but I think 279 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: both offensively and defensively, he takes a huge step forward 280 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: this year. 281 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: I certainly hope. So. 282 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we've you and I have talked about this 283 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: at length, So certainly the City of Saint Louis has 284 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: discussed Jordan Walker's up and down roller coaster starts to 285 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: his career. He's just twenty two years old, still a 286 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of potential there. I know there's been a lot 287 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: of clamor if you will, over the lack of offense 288 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: to start the spring. I would like to remind everybody 289 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: it is spring. It's okay, take a deep breath. But 290 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: I think one thing that was really, really a noteworthy 291 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: about Jordan Walker was the exit bulos. 292 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's two for fourteen coming into today, not great, 293 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: not what. 294 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: You want, but the batted ball profile, the consistency of 295 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: the ball in the air, that's what really matters when 296 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: we're evaluating Jordan Walker. 297 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: With Nolan Gorman. 298 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: On the other hand, what matters is if he's making 299 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: contact at all, and that's going to take some time too. 300 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: Like you mentioned. 301 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: Same with Lars Newfar who looked good today, drove in 302 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: a couple of runs out West Palm. It all comes 303 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: down to, look, you have a brand new hitting coach 304 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: with Brent Brown, and yes there are some returners Ba, 305 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: Brandon Allen, Patty Elkins, they returned from last year's hitting 306 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: coach staff, but it's a different message, it's a different voice, 307 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: a different communication, like you said, and it's going to 308 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: take some time to implement all of that into game results. 309 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: With that being said, what's your big thing for Gorman 310 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: this year? 311 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for him, we know he has that 312 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: power and the fact that you know, everyone keeps expecting 313 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: him to figure out these holes in his swings, so 314 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: to speak. 315 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: It really does. 316 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: Speak to the fact that he is still so young 317 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: in this game and everyone's rushing him to a level 318 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: that we need to pump the brakes on and make 319 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: sure that there's a level of understanding from his side 320 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 3: and the coach's side where everyone's getting on the same 321 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: page and evaluating what he needs to do and then. 322 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: Working towards that. 323 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: But I think for Nolan Gorman, we know he's capable 324 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: of these huge swings, these monster not only numbers, but 325 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: the fact that he's able to really, you know, put 326 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: some pressure on an opposing picture. When you have him 327 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: in that lineup, it's gonna be a situation where if 328 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: he figures it out again, it's gonna be scary. But 329 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: when you pair that with a guy like Jordan Walker, 330 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: where you have both these guys where you know you 331 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: need them to grow in different ways, but you know 332 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: you need that growth, it does say to them, especially 333 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 3: because they're going to get these you know, reps to 334 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: these younger guys and they have this longer leash, in 335 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: this longer run way, it does say to them, we 336 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,239 Speaker 3: trust in you, we believe in you. And the confidence 337 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 3: that this organization is putting in these younger guys to 338 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: be able to say you're the future, and we're here 339 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: to figure that out right now, I think really leaves 340 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: it up to them. Right it's in Nolan Gorman's hands 341 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: to figure out exactly what it is in terms of 342 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: his growth that he wants to work on. But you 343 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: know his potential, you know his ceiling, it's through the 344 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: roof because he has that huge power, and so just 345 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: being able to put that all together and making sure 346 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: that if this lineup that's gonna be something that's really 347 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: up to him. 348 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: It's a sinker swim season for many players, but Jordan 349 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: Walker and Nolan Gorman specifically, it seems, or at least that's 350 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: the messaging the Cardinals. 351 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: Have gone out. 352 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: There a lot to talk about with this Cardinals squad still, 353 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: But first a message from our friends at Arena Club ftfam. 354 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: If you love ripping packs of cards, there is a 355 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: modern way to do that now on Arena Club with 356 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: their slab packs and crats. 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Get after at ft FAM. 376 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: I love Sush. 377 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: I love Scott so much. Scott is my brother from 378 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: another mother. We work together at m WOB network and 379 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: we host a show called The Rundown and I miss 380 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: him every day. He's so excellent what he does, so 381 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: chill and so like you're just hanging out on the 382 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: couch talking sports. 383 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: So shout out to to Scott and Eric too. 384 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: Scott's the best, Eric's the best. Eric was a real 385 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: trooper at Cardinals camp. 386 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: I was a bad teammate. 387 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Foul territory came to Jupiter the day I left, So 388 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: I left him high and dry, and I'm so sorry. 389 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: Betsy. I owe you one. I'll get you a Fredbird hat. 390 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: That way you me and AJ could match. That's the 391 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: way to make up for it. Yeah, I think so totally. 392 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: So you mentioned a quote from Allie Marvel today on 393 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: the broadcast of FIT Sports Network Midwest crushed it, and 394 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: I thought was really important the honesty of you know, 395 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: if new bar Gorman and Walker succeed, it's going to 396 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: be a special team. If they don't, maybe not so hot. 397 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: And I appreciate that candor because I think we can 398 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: all see it no matter how closely you cover the Cardinals. 399 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: It's clear like these three are going to make or 400 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: break the Cardinals season. What do you think the ceiling 401 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: is for this Cardinals team? And just in your opinion, 402 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: how important are those three guys? 403 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, think about it. 404 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: They were six games out of a playoff spot last year, right, 405 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: and so obviously it was a tough season. To miss 406 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: out on the playoffs back to back years is not, 407 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: you know, typical Cardinals baseball. But coming off of a 408 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: really rough twenty twenty three, they decided to shure up 409 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: what the main issue they believed was, which was their 410 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: starting pitching. Right, So they bring in these veterans, and 411 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: the veterans end up having a really strong season, but 412 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: the offense falters. Now obviously, with Paul Goldschmidt to going 413 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: to the Yankees, that's going to be a huge loss 414 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: for you. But if you have these younger guys who 415 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: and as you saw Katie when you walked into the clubhouse, 416 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: they've changed a lot of their body you know, mechanics 417 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: in terms of their biometrics to you know, make some 418 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: win game weight in the off season game muscle. 419 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: So did Victor Scott. 420 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: A lot of these guys are changing the way that 421 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: they eat, They're changing the way that. 422 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: They work out. They they care deeply. 423 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 3: About this Cardinals organization and about having success, and they 424 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: realize it's all out there in front of them. It's 425 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: their opportunity for the taking. So now you want to 426 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: look at the offense. You're taking a look at the 427 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: lineup and you're wondering where you're going to get that 428 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: production from. Well, it really is about these guys stepping 429 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 3: up and basically. 430 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: Owning their own game to. 431 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: Be able to make those you know, big moves. Listen 432 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: to me, the division is kind of wide open. I 433 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: don't think that anyone in the division really made you know, 434 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: monster moves. 435 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Brewers are still the Brewers. 436 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: But you got the Cubs and they made a couple 437 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: of additions, but nothing huge that is kind of earth shattering, 438 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: that says, here we go on paper, it looks like 439 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: they're running away with the division. I mean, the Cardinals 440 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: really have a chance if they want to go get it. 441 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: And you know, you still have Wilson Couldchaerir, who is 442 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: such an offensive threat. I think he's going to do 443 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: excellent work there at first base. He's working with Stubby 444 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 3: Clapp and jose A Kendo. You still, by the way, 445 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: had Nolan Arnatto, remember he finished as an MVP finalist 446 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: just a couple. 447 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: Of years ago. I think that being on this. 448 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: Team, especially to at least start the year, I mean, 449 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: we have no idea what's going to happen as the 450 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: year progresses. But you have a ten time Gold Glove winner, 451 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: eight time All Star Bilan Arnatto is one of the 452 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: best players in all of baseball, a future Hall of 453 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: Famer on your roster. So for me, I think that 454 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot of upside. And with all the talk 455 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: of you know, we heard obviously President of Baseball John 456 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: A Baseball Operations John mose Loach this offseason that it 457 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: was priority one, two and three to trade him, right. 458 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: But that doesn't account for the fact that he's not traded. 459 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: He's still here. So he's going to make a huge impact. 460 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 3: So it's little things like that where I do feel 461 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 3: like you can't count this team out one because of 462 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 3: the division, two because you do have experience. It's not 463 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: all you know, young guns who are just Joe I 464 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: looking around trying to figure out the league. They've got 465 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: a couple of years, or at least a year under 466 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: their belt to have figured it out. And I think 467 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: that the hungry mentality that they've displayed so far. And 468 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: Olli talks about it, He's like, this is one of 469 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: my favorite groups this offseason. These guys are ready to 470 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: get after it. They're absorbing everything like sponges. And for me, 471 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: that's what I love about managing so much because I 472 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: get to relate to a lot of these younger players 473 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: in a different way. It was a lot of fun 474 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: for me to be down there and see how that 475 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: mentality is playing out in the field. 476 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you make a ton of good points. 477 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: And I had a question from an athletic subscriber and 478 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: a mailbag we're running tomorrow about looking for a silver 479 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: lining for this club, and I would agree with you. 480 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: I actually did reference the division and made all the 481 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: points that you just said, because we're just like so alike. 482 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: But it's true. 483 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Right. Look, there's a lot of fan apathy and frustration 484 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: over the mixed messaging of the off season. We talked 485 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: about it and last week's episode with Aj Prasinski. The 486 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals from an organization standpoint, are stuck in the middle. 487 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: You know what can help change that is the players 488 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: and the player's performance. And I think there is reasonabili 489 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: that these players can take multiple strides aside from the 490 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: three that we've spent most of the episode talking about. 491 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: Contraras. He looks fine at first base. 492 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: Look, there's gonna be some growing pains that we'll fix 493 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: with reps and no, he's no Paul Goldschmidt, but that 494 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: bat alone, I think is going to make up for it. 495 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: Nolan Arnauto, you want to talk about someone who came. 496 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: In completely different. He's slimmed down, He looks great. Our 497 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: friend Bernie Miiklos told me, look at the bad speed. 498 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: The difference in the bad speed from Nolan already in 499 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: just a few Great Fruit League games. 500 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: Not only that, but his. 501 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: Whole swing mechanics looks a little bit Dare I say 502 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: like twenty twenty two Nolan Arnatto. 503 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: He looks ready to go Mason win Is he going 504 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: to take that next step? I believe so. 505 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: I think Mason winkinsldify himself as the next base of 506 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: the franchise with another good season. Clearly they want to 507 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: build around him. And then you look at the rotation. 508 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: Sonny Gray is back. He's an ace on almost any club, 509 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: unless you're the Dodgers when you have like eighteen aces anyway, right, 510 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: And yes, I understand the need and the desire from 511 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: fans to want to see people like Andre Polante, Michael McGreevy, 512 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: Quinn Matthews at some point. But the Cardinals believe by 513 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: setting out with a mostly veteran rotation they're giving themselves 514 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: the best chance to get off on the right foot 515 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: in April because they've relying on experience and guys like 516 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: Eric Betty know what they need to do to start 517 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: the season and start the tone. Look how we started 518 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: for the White Sox last year. He was an All Star. 519 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: Miles Michael has two down years. I understand the fans 520 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: skepticism there, but he's still eats intings and that's going 521 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: to be important as you're preserving these young arms which 522 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: are most likely going to make up a bulk of 523 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: the bullpen, and I think there if the Cardinals can 524 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: just hover around five hundred for April, that will do 525 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: a lot in terms of team morale and fan morale, 526 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: and then maybe we're having a different conversation come they 527 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: but they have to get their first And if you're 528 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: a player, you can't let the disarray of the organization, 529 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: the transition that maybe the reset that maybe not. 530 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: You can't let that impact you. 531 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: That's our job is media to talk about the players 532 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: can change that narrative themselves just by playing winning baseball. 533 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 534 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And Katy, you make a great point about the 535 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: pitching in terms of them going with a veteran rotation. 536 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: But they do have these young guys who have kind 537 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 3: of made some names for themselves in spring. I mean, 538 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: while Matthew libertore he's already a name for the Cardinals, 539 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: but he looks confidence heck out there on the mounds 540 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: like he just looks ready to go. 541 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: McGreevy has been really great. 542 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 3: I love the work the Polante put in in the 543 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: off season watching these guys, these younger guys too, who 544 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: are also hungry and potentially, you know, earn their way 545 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: into this rotation at some point if something happens. It 546 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: is really kind of a fun competition to focus on too. 547 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 3: So there's so much about this team. And again, if 548 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: we were talking about you know, the NL West, I 549 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: would feel differently about it, but we're not. We're talking 550 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: about a division that is super winnable, only six games 551 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: out last year, that's made up like that in the spring, 552 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: you know, and especially because you forget that they didn't 553 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: have Wilson gacheris their biggest back for a huge chunk 554 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: last year because he broke his arm. Right, So that 555 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: would of I mean, you could would have should a 556 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: all day long, right, But because you're going to have 557 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: a healthy Cancaris and at that and that lineup all 558 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 3: season long, fingers crossed it. It adds those depth pieces, 559 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: those you know, the full round, you know, well rounded 560 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: roster that you're looking for from this team. 561 00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: So I'm actually pretty excited. 562 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: I know, people, you know, Cardinals fans, listen, you're used 563 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: to a lot of us. I get it, but this 564 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 3: year I think it's a lets the kids play, Let 565 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: the kids play, and let the kids play is so 566 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: fun because these kids. 567 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: They really know what they're doing. And you know what, 568 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: when you come into something with your expectations on the floor, 569 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: it's really hard to be disappointed. So mytions are not 570 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: on the floor. Don't You're a believer. 571 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: Your believer, I Trevor is a believer. I am not 572 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: quite there, but I think that's just again understanding both 573 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: sides of the frustration from the organization and how it's 574 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: being run. You know, there are not a lot of 575 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: organizations that would do this transition year, but the work 576 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: that's being done in the minor leagues is super important. 577 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: We have some stuff on that up with the athletic look. 578 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: I think the right changes are being made in the 579 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: minor league system. 580 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: You will eventually see them in the major leagues, ideally 581 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: if they do it correctly. And with all the focus 582 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: on the major leagues this year, You're exactly right about 583 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: the division. This is not the NL West, this is 584 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: not the ALE East, this is the n L Central 585 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: and year this is like the cop out, and fans 586 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: get frustrated. I get it, because they're like, we're tired 587 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: of competing, allegedly competing, being gasoline to think we're competing 588 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: some of the more dramatic ones because you're because they're 589 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: in contention in the NL Central which is much different 590 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: than being in contention in the National League in general. 591 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: But all you have to do is stay relevant, stay 592 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: in that pack, because you're right, six games gets made 593 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: up like that in baseball. 594 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: That's why they play one hundred and sixty two. So 595 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: we can have all this drama now. 596 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: If the Cardinals stay in it, and this is such 597 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: a big hypothetical and I hate doing talking about July 598 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: in March, but if they stay in it, I can 599 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: absolutely see John Mozelax saying my last year screw that. 600 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: I would really like to try and compete and see 601 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: if they can. If playoff baseball can return to Bush Stadium, 602 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: It's been too long, Alexa. We came around the same time. 603 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: I think I was twenty one. You were twenty two, right, Yeah, 604 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: so when you when I joined the car or covering 605 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals at least, I was like every October, I'm 606 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna be long and I'm going to cover postseason baseball, 607 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: like this is going to be great. I grew up 608 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: a Giants fan, so I loved October. It was the 609 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: best time. And I've covered three playoff games and all 610 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: three have been losses. I would like to experience winning 611 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: postseason games at some point. 612 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure you would too. 613 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know I got to cover Albert Poolos's 614 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: home run chase, I got to cover Adam Wainright and 615 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 3: Yadi or Molina becoming the all time winningest battery mats. 616 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: You know, in memobi history. 617 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: There have been so many exciting moments here for me, 618 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: working with you know, a fan of Sports Network and 619 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: the Cardinals that we want more like you know, but 620 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: that's just how baseball fans are, and especially Cardinals fans 621 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 3: like keep it coming because this is what this town. 622 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: Is built on. 623 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: It's built on Cardinals baseball. So like, let's go out 624 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: there and have a really fun spring. And when you 625 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: do have young guys and splashes. I mean, Mason Win 626 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 3: has a cannon of an arm. You know, he has 627 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: more defensive run seats than any other short step in 628 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 3: the entire league. You go out there and watch this 629 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 3: guy play, show up to bush and watch he's better 630 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: than anyone else you're going to see. So you do have, 631 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: you know, elements to this team that are gonna kind of, 632 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: you know, really you know, be exciting this year and 633 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: kind of blow you away in a way that you know, 634 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: it's not just an average team being out there and 635 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: being told like, hey, you know, maybe we'll win, maybe 636 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: you won't. They're going out there and getting it there 637 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 3: all and they've got some real talent to be able 638 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 3: to do it. 639 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: I think. 640 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: So when we're getting closer and closer to figuring out 641 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: what that opening day roster will look like, the positions 642 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: that were still a little unclear are the positions that 643 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: we thought would be all off season long. The center 644 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: field battle is fascinating, and we talk about this every 645 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: episode because you know, here we are in March fourth 646 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: Opening day is March twenty seventh. Cardinals are still not 647 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: really all that close to figuring out how that's going 648 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: to shake out. The fringe players, if you will, the 649 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: bench players, because I think the Cardinals pretty much know 650 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: who's going to be starting where other than center field 651 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: across the diamond, who's going to take those last spots? 652 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: I think Alec Grilson is a lot to make the 653 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: opening day roster. 654 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: But what's this role going to be is someone are 655 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals going to go with Jose for me and 656 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: as Thomas a jac going to figure out a way 657 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: to stay on All these things are exciting, and then 658 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: once we get over the next two weeks, we're gonna 659 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: start piecing it together. Cuts are gonna start really meaning things. Games, performances, 660 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: We're all gonna be able to analyze them a little 661 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: bit more. Do you have anyone that's on your radar 662 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: to be like the twenty six man, Like, who are 663 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: we not talking about enough that you think has a 664 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: legitimate chance to make this club? 665 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: Luke and Baker, I mean, when that guy crushes it's 666 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: really unbelievable. I mean he's a monster of a human. Uh, 667 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 3: He's got other worldly power and when he swings the bat, 668 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: it is. 669 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 2: A no doubter every time. So potentially Luke and Baker's 670 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: bat off of the eventually talking about you needed some power, 671 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: that could be one for me. 672 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: But I think overall kind of watching how this outfield 673 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: is going to play out, and it's going to be 674 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: a task for Ali Marmal to figure out playing time 675 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 3: for these younger guys. Uh. And then what you put 676 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: out on a daily basis is offensive minded, defensive minded? 677 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: To you, a new foreign center field is a Sianni 678 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 3: Scott situation. Brendon ty of been you know time and 679 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: left field, but you know he's the utility Gold Glove 680 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: Award winner, So you can put him anywhere if you want, 681 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: and he'll you know, shine. I mean, you know, you're 682 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: pretty much got up in the middle with or at 683 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: least a short stop with Mason whim and then you 684 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: got or not at third, but you know kind of 685 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: watching how you know, Gorman takes him at bats and 686 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: play some third base. So it's just gonna be very 687 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 3: interesting too, and to me kind of intriguing because if 688 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: you run the same line up out there every single day, 689 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: what do we have to talk about, Katie, you know 690 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 3: what I mean. So it gives us a little bit 691 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: of like, hey, so who's playing today, Let's talk about it, 692 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: Let's let's figure this out, and you know, and then 693 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: it's really the best man. 694 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: You know, wins. 695 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: It's really it's a competition. And Ali suggests that every 696 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: single year. He said, if you play, you're in the lineup, 697 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: you know best that place, best glove place. So go 698 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: out there and earn your time, earn your spot, uh 699 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 3: and and go for some victories. I mean, that's really 700 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: what this team is about. In terms of these young guys, 701 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: they really have like as Mason Wynn described it, a 702 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: bit of an underdog mentality, and I kind of think 703 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: that's going to serve them this year. 704 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. 705 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: When you're a bunch of young guys that haven't really 706 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: like you, you're big leaguers, and I don't want to 707 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: diminish that. That's an accomplishment in itself, but as a 708 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: team over the last two years, the Cardinals haven't really 709 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: accomplished much of anything except a massive decline and the 710 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: view of the industry, if you are the young players 711 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: that are kind of connected to that in the beginning 712 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: of your career, aren't you mad? Aren't you like screw this? 713 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: Like more better than this? And I see it when 714 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: I walk in the clubhouse. I mean the way that 715 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: the guys are in there for doing their pregame work. 716 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: I get to the Roger Deine on a good day 717 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: when I'm running on time around seven thirty seven forty 718 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: five in the morning, and there are guys doing infield 719 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: drills with stubby clap John Jay, I mean every morning, 720 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: so they've been there for a while. 721 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: And then these young guys are some of the last 722 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: to leave. 723 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do their three at bats and leave, but 724 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: there's no more five and fly here not even the 725 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: veterans are doing that. You're seeing Nolan, no Nada, Wilson, 726 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: Contraras in the Captain or Not Cactus Great Foo League games, 727 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: getting three four bats and leaving in the seventh and 728 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: eighth in March like early March. That is, you not 729 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: the custom for veterans with service time in spring training. 730 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: So I love all the points you make. I think 731 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: we were due for some optimism. The great point about 732 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Luken Baker also because I think about how left headed 733 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: heavy this roster is. They could certainly benefit from some 734 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: right handed bats to a company Contraras, Arnatto, hopefully Walker 735 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: and ideally Herrera. 736 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: So we will see. 737 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: Still lots to be excited about the next two weeks, 738 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: Like we said, very important. I am looking forward to 739 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: hearing you call two more games, at least two more games, 740 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: all right, And you know where to find her. She's 741 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: at Fandual Sports Network Midwest and she's on Cardinal Territory. 742 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: And we were just so thrilled to have Alexa. Thank 743 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: you so much for taking time outur day to do this. Katie. 744 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: You crush this, by the way, as you always do, 745 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: but thank you so much for having me. 746 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: This is awesome. Just trying to be like you, Trevor Rosenthal. 747 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: He's back at the end of the week and we 748 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: have some fun stuff coming ahead. I don't want to 749 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: get too excited because I don't want to promote it 750 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: ever ruin the surprise, but just trust me, it's worth it. 751 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: We're back Thursday. I believe for Alexa Dat I'm Katie. 752 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: This is Cardinal Territory. Thank you so much for watching. 753 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: M H. 754 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna win like an Emmy or something. 755 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: That was oh my god, let's put it on the reel. 756 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: That was, oh my god. It's still abarty, Okay, I'm 757 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: gonna have to fix that.