WEBVTT - NFL Network's Brian Baldinger Reflects on Aaron Rodgers Decision, Discusses the Next Steps for Jets (2/13) 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.080 I Eat, breathe, and sleep The New York Jets my team. 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.039 He knows what it means to wear the green and white. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.040 That is a tightrope walk across Niagara Fall. That's hard 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:11.280 to do. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.000 The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.440 jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good. Shop Game 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.119 Day Ready, Jewelry Styles and so much more at Kendra 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.560 Scott dot com. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.680 Baldy's so great to see again, my friend. You're looking good. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.600 You brought the guns out to the pod today. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.960 Yep, thank you. Well, suns out. Guns are out right now. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.800 I mean it's vacation season the eight, so I'm ready 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:36.920 to enjoy it for a little bit. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.320 So Super Bowl Sunday, Baldy. Jay Glazer broke it first, 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.159 I believe. He said that Aaron Rodgers flew back to 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.879 New Jersey last week to meet with the Jets, and 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.160 at that point, the Jets informed him they were gonna 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:52.520 move on at quarterback. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.920 Your thoughts when you heard that news. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.280 I think it's the right move. I mean, Aaron was 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.520 here for two years. It created a great buzz. Obviously, 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.959 the first year was a massive disappointment, and in the 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:06.480 large part last year. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:07.840 Was a massive disappointment. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.400 He was expected to raise the level of play around 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.960 him to get the Jets to the playoffs, and they 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.400 fell way short. And I just think when you bring 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.759 in a new coach, you bring in a new general manager. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.040 Like you should start fresh. And Darren Moge was a 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:23.959 new GM. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.760 They cut their cord last year with Russell Wilson, and 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.000 he was a big He was supposed to be their. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.119 Aaron Rodgers and he wasn't. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.760 And Sean Payton's like, let's just cut her losses, let's 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.520 go with the rookie, Let's start fresh. And I feel 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.160 like that's what the Jets should do right now. I 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.560 think the Aaron Rodgers era is should be over. I'm 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.600 not surprised they said that. I don't think Aaron's shocked 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.480 or even disappointed at this point, Like he knows what 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.920 he was brought here to do and he wasn't able 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.880 to deliver, and that wasn't all his fault obviously, but still, 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.520 you know, nothing changed with Aaron, So I think they 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.680 made this change. It's an organizational shift. The quarterback is 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.520 a huge part of it. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:09.440 Like make the. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.400 Change top fluck for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.800 Following that trade in April twenty twenty three, right, Baldy, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.160 there was all the hype, the excitement, Hard Knox was 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.480 here in florm Park and then Monday night football Week 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:28.760 one against the Buffalo Bills, four snaps in achilles tendon tear. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:34.200 Look, I mean that it's gonna be part of Jets folklore. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.280 Like I'll never forget the buzz that preseason. Woody Johnson 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.280 out there saying about like everybody wanted to come to 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.400 training camp. Everybody wanted to come to florm Park and 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.280 see Aaron throwing to Garrett Wilson, you know, you know, 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.600 alll Is Art whatever. But it just it never materialized. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.799 And it was a shock at what we all witnessed 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.480 that night, Like nobody could have foreseen that he'd never 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.680 suffered a major injury like that. And it just as 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.800 as much as it was built up, it got deflated immediately. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.680 And so then it was about year two and there 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.560 was hype and there was excitement and all this stuff, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.959 and it never really got off the ground. And I think, 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.120 you know, I think the loss to Denver at home 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:28.360 in the rain really solidified that that was a winnable game. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.359 They couldn't score from the one. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.760 It sort of epitomized the frustration that every Jet failed 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.920 last year. That was a winnable game. Defense played great, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.040 Denver didn't score touchdown. The Jets couldn't put Denver away. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:42.400 That thing. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:49.480 Yeah, it's interesting looking back at it because Rogers historically, 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.560 this was one of the better passing seasons of franchise history. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:56.160 Passes for nearly three nine hundred yards, He's twenty eight 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.720 touchdown passes, his eleven interceptions, and you have to give 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.360 him a lot of credit for working his way back. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.120 He's forty one years old, coming off a devastating injury, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.040 and he was able to put up those numbers. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.880 So I thought it was gritty. Also going back. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.360 To the twenty twenty three season Baldy, where he just 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.400 worked his way in order to get back out of 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.280 the practice field. He was trying to do something that 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.320 nobody had ever done it before. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.320 No, I mean, look, the commitment was there. The commitment 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.240 on his part was there, Like nobody can fault Aaron 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.600 Rodgers for not being committed. But there were games that 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.600 the Jets could have easily won. The Minnesota Viking game, 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.000 in London. That was a winnable game. He ate he 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.479 had to make a play down the stretch. Gilmore's beat, 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.800 You got to make the throw. I mean, Seattle is 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.480 a winnable game, a lot of there's a lot of 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:48.400 winnable games. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.040 The stats are good, but ERINBLD. I mean, if Aaron's. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.800 Being honest, and I think you can look at the 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.200 mirror and be honest, like you were opportunities to win 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.400 a lot of these games, to get them into December 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.560 for real, meaningful games rather than. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.039 Playing the string out like they did. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:08.360 So look, I mean, you can't fault anybody from from 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.559 Woody to Joe Douglas to Phil Savage. You can't fault 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.719 anybody front office players Aaron. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.760 For not being committed. The commitment was there, it didn't 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:18.240 work out. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.960 But I also think this is a young man's game, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.120 and you know, the Super Bowl showed you that the 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:26.960 way to win. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.440 And I'm in Philadelphia, EA, so I see this firsthand. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.320 But when you draft Nolan Smith and Jalen Carter, you know, 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.200 and you go sign Saquan and Zach Bond, and you 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.479 developed and you draft Cooper Dezine and Quinnon Mitchell, you 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.000 draft and develop, and then you spend your money wisely 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:50.920 on key components. There's a formula out there to turn 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:56.200 any franchise around very quickly. Remember the Eagles collapsed last year. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.080 It was an ugly collapse and they just didn't sit. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:03.760 Id'll goed, okay, well, bring back to safety. They changed coaches, Cordames, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.919 they changed position coaches, they went out and retooled the 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.520 whole roster, and here they are Super Bowl champs. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:14.240 So following that Vikings game, you mentioned the Broncos game. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.120 The Jets entered that ballgame at Life a rainy Sunday afternoon. 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.080 They were two to one. They had played a complete 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.880 game against the New England Patriots. They lose to the Broncos. 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.480 Then they go over and play in London in Week 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.719 five against the Vikings, a team who had a terrific 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.640 season themselves looking back at it. They lose a one 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.800 possession game, and then a couple of days later, Robert 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.960 sala Is dismissed, Jeff albrick Is promoted to interim head coach, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.280 and then a month later Joe Douglas dismissed. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:44.400 And you mentioned it before. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.560 Phil Savage finishes the year as an interim GM and 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:54.240 then Baldy. In totality, the Jets lost six games in 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.479 the fourth quarter in which they held leads, and they 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.839 were three and seven in one possession games. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.119 Yeah, and you know, and meanwhile, you know, Kansas City's 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.080 in the Super Bowl and they were undefeated in one 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.560 possession games. They didn't lose a game one possession Like 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.960 these games come down to the fourth quarter. Heah, and 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.560 that's where your quarterback had Like Super Bowls different, but 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.800 that's where your star players, including your quarterback, has. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:19.240 To step up. 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.160 If you look at the Eagles run, I mean, they 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.640 narrowly beat the Rams, but their star players stepped up 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.360 in that game. Jalen Carter punched the ball out of 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.120 Kyron Williams hands. Jalen Carter sack Matt Stafford when he's 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.520 going in to throw a dagger against the Eagles to 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.440 win the game in the final minute. Your star players 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.360 and your quarterback have to step up in those big 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.400 moments in the fourth quarter. That's why you pay the 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.000 stars the money they do. They've got to change the game. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.240 Guys like me that were you know, part of the 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.360 part of the roster. Starters not stars, we're just glue players. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.400 Your star players have to win games. If you look 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.760 at the big win that the Jets had this year 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.640 on Thanksgiving Night against the Houston Texans, you think about 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.040 the catch by Garrett Wilson in the back of the 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.000 end zone. It's a star play, Like I don't know 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.360 how many receivers in this league can make that play, 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.480 but Aaron two three touchdown passes, Garrett kind of you know, 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.360 made the star play of the game. I thought in 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.240 that game, your stars got to win in crunch time 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.520 and your quarterback has to deliver. You can put all 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.560 the stats up there you want Lamar Jackson, and that's 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:32.600 what they got to do. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:33.400 Well. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.960 The overall for this franchise was the right move at 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.880 that time to make the trade for Aaron Rodgers. But 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.559 now here we are two years later, you think it's 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.640 the right move for the organization to move on. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:45.520 I do. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.440 I do think it's time to move on. I think 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.920 you have to constantly look. Everybody makes mistakes, and I'm 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.520 not saying Aaron was a mistake, but everybody has to 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.719 move on from a quarterback, and different teams do it 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:03.160 different lea. You know last year Denver drafted bow Knicks. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.120 It's the first time that they that Chem Payton has 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.720 been coaching his league where he had to develop a 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.559 rookie quarterback, like he never had to do that before. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.200 He got Drew Brees four years into his career. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.240 You know, he had a lot of veter quarterbacks as 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.600 an assistant coach, you know, in New York and in Philadelphia. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.120 But everybody has to find their guy. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.200 Everybody has to find their quarterback, whether it's a draft pick, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.400 whether it's Detroit getting his second actor's Jared Goff. Even 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.520 the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, in twenty twenty had Carson 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.760 Wentz and they just gave him a big fat contract 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.360 and they drafted Jalen Hurts with the fifty third pick 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:42.440 in the second round. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.319 And people question whether Jalen. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.320 Could ever play quarterback in this league, he's just a 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:47.920 running back. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.880 Well, he's a Super Bowl MVP winning quarterback right now. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.240 They developed Jalen and they got the right coach, and 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:55.760 they got the line, and they. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.760 Got the talent around him, and they never stopped building 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:58.280 around him. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.920 You've got to identify that, however you do, and you 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.520 got to you gotta get him, and you have to 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.800 develop them, and you have to surround him with the league. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:12.800 Talent, Baldy, you know it better than anybody being stationed 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:17.679 where you're you're at. You basically you know you're inside 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.360 all thirty two teams, but that's your backyard. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:21.280 Philadelphia. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.280 Hurts, as you mentioned, not a first round pick, so 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.040 he was anomaly in the playoffs this season. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.920 The only other guy I think who was a non first. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.599 Round pick who made the postseason was Russell Wilson, a 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.280 third round pick back in the day, but Pittsburgh actually 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:40.920 picked him up in free agency of course, prior to 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.319 the twenty twenty four season. But going back to Hurts, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.960 he started out his third on the depth chart, wasn't 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.200 he behind Nate Sudfell. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:48.160 Yeah, yeah, No. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.600 He came in, came in, worked his way up. Carson 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.760 was the franchise quarterback, whether you want to believe the 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.280 reports that Carson felt threatened. But Jalen, I mean, Jalen 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.800 never stopped working. I know Jalen pretty good. Like you know, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.840 he never stopped working in his game. He listens to 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.440 all the noise, he uses everything is fuel the way 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.400 a lot of athletes do. But he's been in the 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.760 player like he started in twenty twenty one, He's been 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.120 in the playoffs every single year. He's been to two 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.160 Super Bowls right now. He's won a ton of playoff games. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.720 The guy's an elite athlete, elite runner. Let the Super 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.480 Bowl and rushing he beats you a lot of dif voyage. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.280 They wanted to stack the box and take Saquan away 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:32.200 in that game. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:33.040 He delivered. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.880 He delivered an MVP performance. They picked the right guy, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.000 but that was the fifty third pick. He wasn't supposed 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.199 to be the starter. But you know what, competition is 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:46.080 a good thing. You could never have enough. You never 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.880 have enough competition, but you can never have enough talent 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.120 on your team. Youve got to continually add to it. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.000 And that's what Philadelphias shown the whole league. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:55.520 You mentioned it before. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.960 How about official will that Denver experience be for Denver? 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.000 For Darren Mugi excuse me, who was working with George 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:07.200 Payton there with the Broncos when they took a number 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.560 of swings at the quarterback position and then specifically with 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.960 Russell Wilson, they said, hey, it's not working out. We're 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.120 going to eat that money. And now they go and 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.720 draft their guy in bo Nicks. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.840 Not just that but they made the playoffs with Bo 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.040 Knicks and all you did. I mean, I tracked bow 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.520 Knicks from week one where he literally could not complete 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.840 a pass to a wide receiver the first two weeks 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.880 of the season, and he thought, what did they get? 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:33.600 And by the end of the year was winning games 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.520 for him and taking care of the football and becoming 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.360 a legitimate, you know, prospect that you can see Denver 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.560 competing for playoff spots every year with Bo Nicks and 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.520 he started all eighteen games for him, you know, So 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:47.840 they got the right guy. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:48.520 Now. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.680 I think he was the fourth or the fifth quarterback 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:55.160 drafted last year. But Atlanta feels good about you know, 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:59.040 Michael Pennix Junior. I think Washington struck gold. I think 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.280 Caleb is to find a good home with his Duke coach. 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:03.080 Like you got. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.280 You got to draft these guys wherever you draft him, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.280 and you got to give him every chance to develop, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.200 and you've got to get good coaches around him to 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.200 do it with. And so that's when the Jets are out, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.600 whether it's I believe they should sign a free agent 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.520 quarterback and they should draft the quarterback, you know, and 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.360 get the best possible prospect they can, regardless of how 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.400 many assets it takes to do it. Like, you've got 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.600 to get that guy in your building, and you have 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.240 to start, you know, showing the belief in them and 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:29.679 the ability to build around them. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.640 All Right, I'm glad you just brought that up. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.320 So let's speak a little bit about twenty twenty five options. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.080 Tyrod Taylor is currently on the roster. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.280 He's been a member, of course, of seven different organizations, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.640 sixty two percent passer over the course of his career 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.200 ball the sixty eight career touchdown passes twenty nine interceptions, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.719 hasn't started more than six games in the season since 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:55.400 twenty seventeen. Jordan Travis was a draft pick working his 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.320 way back from that devastating ankle injury at Florida State 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.760 in twenty two three. Adrian Martinez signed a futures deal 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.480 here in January. Those are the three guys currently on 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:07.959 the roster. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.480 Look, I mean, Tyrod, you mentioned all the teams he's 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.319 been on. I mean he was there with Josh Allen, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.160 he was in the Chargers with Justin Herbert, you know, 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.040 and scheduled to start and got a puncture wound to 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.840 the chest and Justin took over. They never look back. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:24.920 I mean, he's been in that seat where he's been 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.240 the guy. Then you know a Baker Mayfield. 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:27.760 He was in. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.520 Cleveland with Baker and Baker, you know, beat him out, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.560 you know by the fourth game, I think it was 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.080 a Jets game when Baker came in. It took over 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.320 on Thursday night. But you know, he's been in this role. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:38.040 He knows his role. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.800 But he's still is athletic, he still can win games 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.680 for you. He can still put a gate play together. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.040 He's I think he's very capable of being a bridge 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.040 quarterback right now. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.000 But I wouldn't be comfortable with Jordan Travison. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.520 And you know Adrian Martinez, An. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.880 Adrian and Tyrod right now. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.960 I mean I would look real hard at drafting a 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.800 quarterback as high as I possibly could. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.120 So we're gonna get back to the draft here in 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:04.640 a second. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.200 A former Jet quarterback Sam Donald broke out under Kevin 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.080 O'Connell there. 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.160 Last year in Minnesota. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.640 He could be a free agent Justin Fields, who of 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.920 course started the season with the Steelers last year. He 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.760 made those six starts before Russell Wilson took over. Maybe 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.360 Russell Wilson is out there as well. Former Giants quarterback 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.280 Daniel Jones could be out there in the market. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:26.480 Now. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.080 A lot of people are speculating that Kirk Cousins possibly 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:29.840 could be released. 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.320 Yeah, I mean, I think it would be awkward to 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.920 bring Sam Donald back, you know, to pay him, you know, 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:39.400 elite money after you know his tenure here ended, you know, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:40.480 without fanfare. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:41.960 I think it would be awkward. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:47.280 But you have to you have to, like, honestly, Darren's 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.560 got to really look at every option, and Aaron Glenn, 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.520 they got to look at every single option carefully. All right, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.440 It's an important decision. So I mean, everybody is on 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.320 the table. If Derek Carr gets released, you know, is 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.480 he on the table? If Kellamore goes in there and 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.920 said we want to start fresh, all these like. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.000 You can't. You have to look at every prospect. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.840 Nobody thought that Sam Donald could have done what he 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.680 did this year. Nobody that watched them in Carolina or 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.040 the Jets or even one game in San Francisco. Nobody 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.480 could have predicted that he could have played that well, 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.160 won that many games. But that's what you have to do, 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.600 Like you have to take each guy, put them in 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:29.000 a vacuum. And say, okay, if we put elite offensive 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:30.680 line in front of him like they did in Minnesota, 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.880 at least a very good line, and you an elite 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.800 running back and receivers what Canny do. And by the way, 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.840 they let the league in takeaways, so they got a 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.040 lot of extra at bats, you know, coming back to Sam, 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.680 but you have to you know, nobody could printed that 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.720 Baker Mayfield would win two straight division titles and win 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.120 playoff games at Tampa until you put a team around 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:53.720 them and gave him an opportunity. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.560 Yeah, those guys were those guys both cast offs, right, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.520 Baker Mayfield and then Sam Donald, and they resurrect their careers. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.200 Yes, and so, and you. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.679 Know we started off this conversation we're talking about Jalen 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.040 Hurts was the fifty third pick. 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.480 So I don't know if Riley. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.960 Leonard could be that guy, you know, had a Notre 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.480 Dame and if he's a third round pick, if he's 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.720 got great athleticism, he's got shortcomings. They said that about Jayalen. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.399 I I remember doing a college game when Jalen was 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.480 the starting quarterback at Alabama and. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:25.920 They were playing Texas A and M. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.439 They were both undefeated and I thought Jalen Hurts was 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.280 nobody could catch him. He was an elite runner, but 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.600 I never thought he was going to be an elite thrower. Well, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.679 he's become a very good passer. So you gotta really 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.440 do your homework on these guys. Yes, you can go, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.960 and who knows, Like, who knows what that guy is 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:50.200 gonna be? It's you can't sit here on February twelve 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.160 and predict what the Jets should do at quarterback. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.800 The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.280 jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good shot, game 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.320 Day Ready, jewelry styles, and so much more at kendriscott 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:04.080 dot com. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.639 No, you definitely can't. And you were boots on the 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.280 ground in Mobile. I don't know how you do it all, brother, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.840 I can't keep up with you. But you were in Mobile, 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.840 before you were in New Orleans, before you were in 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.320 Los Angeles. And I know you're gonna be traveling again 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.439 this weekend. But here are some names out there that 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.560 people are talking about top prospects in two thousand and 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.000 twenty five NFL Draft. I can't believe we're already saying 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.080 that ball the twenty twenty five. But cam Ward from Miami, 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.119 Shehder Sanders of course from Colorado, Jackson Dark from Mississippi, 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.720 Jalen Milroe from Alabama, dual threat Will Howard from Ohio. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.320 State of course was the national title. Tyler Shuck I 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:47.040 just saw Todd mcshade put something out there last night 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.680 saying that this guy might be one of the top 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.159 four athletic prospects at the quarterback position. Kyle McCord who 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:59.320 played at Syracuse, quinn Ewers from Texas. All those names 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.240 that we're gonna be hearing in April, we are. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.080 And we're gonna hear about him for the next three months, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.919 and we're gonna put them through elite scrutiny for the 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.440 next three months lead up to the draft. I mean, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.359 whether it's the Combine, I'll be at the Combine at 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.560 the end of February, whether it's the pro days, the workouts, 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.679 really grinding the film and going through these guys, We're 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.840 gonna get a much better composite on what these guys are. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.640 But at the end of the day, we're gonna fall 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.439 in love with milrose athleticism and his arm strength. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:36.120 But that happens to every single prospect. You know, we're 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.159 gonna fall in love with some things, not love with 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:38.720 some things. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.879 But there's the game that's played in college is a 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:46.760 completely different game than the NFL, and the maturity level, 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.840