1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: I Eat, breathe, and sleep The New York Jets my team. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 3: He knows what it means to wear the green and white. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 3: That is a tightrope walk across Niagara Fall. That's hard 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 3: to do. 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 4: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 4: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good. Shop Game 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 4: Day Ready, Jewelry Styles and so much more at Kendra 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 4: Scott dot com. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Baldy's so great to see again, my friend. You're looking good. 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: You brought the guns out to the pod today. 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: Yep, thank you. Well, suns out. Guns are out right now. 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 5: I mean it's vacation season the eight, so I'm ready 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 5: to enjoy it for a little bit. 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: So Super Bowl Sunday, Baldy. Jay Glazer broke it first, 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: I believe. He said that Aaron Rodgers flew back to 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: New Jersey last week to meet with the Jets, and 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: at that point, the Jets informed him they were gonna 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: move on at quarterback. 20 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Your thoughts when you heard that news. 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 5: I think it's the right move. I mean, Aaron was 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 5: here for two years. It created a great buzz. Obviously, 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 5: the first year was a massive disappointment, and in the 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 5: large part last year. 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: Was a massive disappointment. 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 5: He was expected to raise the level of play around 27 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 5: him to get the Jets to the playoffs, and they 28 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 5: fell way short. And I just think when you bring 29 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 5: in a new coach, you bring in a new general manager. 30 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: Like you should start fresh. And Darren Moge was a 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: new GM. 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 5: They cut their cord last year with Russell Wilson, and 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 5: he was a big He was supposed to be their. 34 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and he wasn't. 35 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 5: And Sean Payton's like, let's just cut her losses, let's 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 5: go with the rookie, Let's start fresh. And I feel 37 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 5: like that's what the Jets should do right now. I 38 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 5: think the Aaron Rodgers era is should be over. I'm 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 5: not surprised they said that. I don't think Aaron's shocked 40 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 5: or even disappointed at this point, Like he knows what 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 5: he was brought here to do and he wasn't able 42 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 5: to deliver, and that wasn't all his fault obviously, but still, 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 5: you know, nothing changed with Aaron, So I think they 44 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 5: made this change. It's an organizational shift. The quarterback is 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 5: a huge part of it. 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: Like make the. 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: Change top fluck for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Following that trade in April twenty twenty three, right, Baldy, 49 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: there was all the hype, the excitement, Hard Knox was 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: here in florm Park and then Monday night football Week 51 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: one against the Buffalo Bills, four snaps in achilles tendon tear. 52 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: Look, I mean that it's gonna be part of Jets folklore. 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 5: Like I'll never forget the buzz that preseason. Woody Johnson 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: out there saying about like everybody wanted to come to 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: training camp. Everybody wanted to come to florm Park and 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 5: see Aaron throwing to Garrett Wilson, you know, you know, 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 5: alll Is Art whatever. But it just it never materialized. 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 5: And it was a shock at what we all witnessed 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: that night, Like nobody could have foreseen that he'd never 60 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 5: suffered a major injury like that. And it just as 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 5: as much as it was built up, it got deflated immediately. 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 5: And so then it was about year two and there 63 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 5: was hype and there was excitement and all this stuff, 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 5: and it never really got off the ground. And I think, 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 5: you know, I think the loss to Denver at home 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 5: in the rain really solidified that that was a winnable game. 67 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: They couldn't score from the one. 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: It sort of epitomized the frustration that every Jet failed 69 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 5: last year. That was a winnable game. Defense played great, 70 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 5: Denver didn't score touchdown. The Jets couldn't put Denver away. 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: That thing. 72 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting looking back at it because Rogers historically, 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: this was one of the better passing seasons of franchise history. 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Passes for nearly three nine hundred yards, He's twenty eight 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, his eleven interceptions, and you have to give 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: him a lot of credit for working his way back. 77 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: He's forty one years old, coming off a devastating injury, 78 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: and he was able to put up those numbers. 79 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: So I thought it was gritty. Also going back. 80 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: To the twenty twenty three season Baldy, where he just 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: worked his way in order to get back out of 82 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: the practice field. He was trying to do something that 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: nobody had ever done it before. 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: No, I mean, look, the commitment was there. The commitment 85 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 5: on his part was there, Like nobody can fault Aaron 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 5: Rodgers for not being committed. But there were games that 87 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 5: the Jets could have easily won. The Minnesota Viking game, 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 5: in London. That was a winnable game. He ate he 89 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 5: had to make a play down the stretch. Gilmore's beat, 90 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: You got to make the throw. I mean, Seattle is 91 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 5: a winnable game, a lot of there's a lot of 92 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 5: winnable games. 93 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: The stats are good, but ERINBLD. I mean, if Aaron's. 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: Being honest, and I think you can look at the 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 5: mirror and be honest, like you were opportunities to win 96 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: a lot of these games, to get them into December 97 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 5: for real, meaningful games rather than. 98 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: Playing the string out like they did. 99 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 5: So look, I mean, you can't fault anybody from from 100 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 5: Woody to Joe Douglas to Phil Savage. You can't fault 101 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 5: anybody front office players Aaron. 102 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: For not being committed. The commitment was there, it didn't 103 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: work out. 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 5: But I also think this is a young man's game, 105 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: and you know, the Super Bowl showed you that the 106 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 5: way to win. 107 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: And I'm in Philadelphia, EA, so I see this firsthand. 108 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: But when you draft Nolan Smith and Jalen Carter, you know, 109 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: and you go sign Saquan and Zach Bond, and you 110 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 5: developed and you draft Cooper Dezine and Quinnon Mitchell, you 111 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 5: draft and develop, and then you spend your money wisely 112 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 5: on key components. There's a formula out there to turn 113 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: any franchise around very quickly. Remember the Eagles collapsed last year. 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 5: It was an ugly collapse and they just didn't sit. 115 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 5: Id'll goed, okay, well, bring back to safety. They changed coaches, Cordames, 116 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 5: they changed position coaches, they went out and retooled the 117 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: whole roster, and here they are Super Bowl champs. 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: So following that Vikings game, you mentioned the Broncos game. 119 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: The Jets entered that ballgame at Life a rainy Sunday afternoon. 120 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: They were two to one. They had played a complete 121 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: game against the New England Patriots. They lose to the Broncos. 122 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: Then they go over and play in London in Week 123 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: five against the Vikings, a team who had a terrific 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: season themselves looking back at it. They lose a one 125 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: possession game, and then a couple of days later, Robert 126 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: sala Is dismissed, Jeff albrick Is promoted to interim head coach, 127 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: and then a month later Joe Douglas dismissed. 128 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: And you mentioned it before. 129 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: Phil Savage finishes the year as an interim GM and 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: then Baldy. In totality, the Jets lost six games in 131 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in which they held leads, and they 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: were three and seven in one possession games. 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, and meanwhile, you know, Kansas City's 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl and they were undefeated in one 135 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: possession games. They didn't lose a game one possession Like 136 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: these games come down to the fourth quarter. Heah, and 137 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 5: that's where your quarterback had Like Super Bowls different, but 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: that's where your star players, including your quarterback, has. 139 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: To step up. 140 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 5: If you look at the Eagles run, I mean, they 141 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 5: narrowly beat the Rams, but their star players stepped up 142 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: in that game. Jalen Carter punched the ball out of 143 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 5: Kyron Williams hands. Jalen Carter sack Matt Stafford when he's 144 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: going in to throw a dagger against the Eagles to 145 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 5: win the game in the final minute. Your star players 146 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 5: and your quarterback have to step up in those big 147 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: moments in the fourth quarter. That's why you pay the 148 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: stars the money they do. They've got to change the game. 149 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 5: Guys like me that were you know, part of the 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: part of the roster. Starters not stars, we're just glue players. 151 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 5: Your star players have to win games. If you look 152 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 5: at the big win that the Jets had this year 153 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving Night against the Houston Texans, you think about 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 5: the catch by Garrett Wilson in the back of the 155 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: end zone. It's a star play, Like I don't know 156 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 5: how many receivers in this league can make that play, 157 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: but Aaron two three touchdown passes, Garrett kind of you know, 158 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 5: made the star play of the game. I thought in 159 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: that game, your stars got to win in crunch time 160 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 5: and your quarterback has to deliver. You can put all 161 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 5: the stats up there you want Lamar Jackson, and that's 162 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 5: what they got to do. 163 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: Well. 164 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: The overall for this franchise was the right move at 165 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: that time to make the trade for Aaron Rodgers. But 166 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: now here we are two years later, you think it's 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: the right move for the organization to move on. 168 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: I do. 169 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 5: I do think it's time to move on. I think 170 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: you have to constantly look. Everybody makes mistakes, and I'm 171 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: not saying Aaron was a mistake, but everybody has to 172 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 5: move on from a quarterback, and different teams do it 173 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: different lea. You know last year Denver drafted bow Knicks. 174 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 5: It's the first time that they that Chem Payton has 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: been coaching his league where he had to develop a 176 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 5: rookie quarterback, like he never had to do that before. 177 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: He got Drew Brees four years into his career. 178 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 5: You know, he had a lot of veter quarterbacks as 179 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 5: an assistant coach, you know, in New York and in Philadelphia. 180 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: But everybody has to find their guy. 181 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 5: Everybody has to find their quarterback, whether it's a draft pick, 182 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 5: whether it's Detroit getting his second actor's Jared Goff. Even 183 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, in twenty twenty had Carson 184 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: Wentz and they just gave him a big fat contract 185 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: and they drafted Jalen Hurts with the fifty third pick 186 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 5: in the second round. 187 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 3: And people question whether Jalen. 188 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 5: Could ever play quarterback in this league, he's just a 189 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 5: running back. 190 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: Well, he's a Super Bowl MVP winning quarterback right now. 191 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 5: They developed Jalen and they got the right coach, and 192 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 5: they got the line, and they. 193 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: Got the talent around him, and they never stopped building 194 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: around him. 195 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 5: You've got to identify that, however you do, and you 196 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: got to you gotta get him, and you have to 197 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: develop them, and you have to surround him with the league. 198 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Talent, Baldy, you know it better than anybody being stationed 199 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: where you're you're at. You basically you know you're inside 200 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: all thirty two teams, but that's your backyard. 201 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: Philadelphia. 202 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: Hurts, as you mentioned, not a first round pick, so 203 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: he was anomaly in the playoffs this season. 204 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: The only other guy I think who was a non first. 205 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: Round pick who made the postseason was Russell Wilson, a 206 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: third round pick back in the day, but Pittsburgh actually 207 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: picked him up in free agency of course, prior to 208 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season. But going back to Hurts, 209 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: he started out his third on the depth chart, wasn't 210 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: he behind Nate Sudfell. 211 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No. 212 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: He came in, came in, worked his way up. Carson 213 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: was the franchise quarterback, whether you want to believe the 214 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: reports that Carson felt threatened. But Jalen, I mean, Jalen 215 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 5: never stopped working. I know Jalen pretty good. Like you know, 216 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 5: he never stopped working in his game. He listens to 217 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: all the noise, he uses everything is fuel the way 218 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 5: a lot of athletes do. But he's been in the 219 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 5: player like he started in twenty twenty one, He's been 220 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 5: in the playoffs every single year. He's been to two 221 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 5: Super Bowls right now. He's won a ton of playoff games. 222 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 5: The guy's an elite athlete, elite runner. Let the Super 223 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: Bowl and rushing he beats you a lot of dif voyage. 224 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 5: They wanted to stack the box and take Saquan away 225 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 5: in that game. 226 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: He delivered. 227 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 5: He delivered an MVP performance. They picked the right guy, 228 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: but that was the fifty third pick. He wasn't supposed 229 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 5: to be the starter. But you know what, competition is 230 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 5: a good thing. You could never have enough. You never 231 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 5: have enough competition, but you can never have enough talent 232 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: on your team. Youve got to continually add to it. 233 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 5: And that's what Philadelphias shown the whole league. 234 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: You mentioned it before. 235 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: How about official will that Denver experience be for Denver? 236 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: For Darren Mugi excuse me, who was working with George 237 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Payton there with the Broncos when they took a number 238 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: of swings at the quarterback position and then specifically with 239 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, they said, hey, it's not working out. We're 240 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: going to eat that money. And now they go and 241 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: draft their guy in bo Nicks. 242 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 5: Not just that but they made the playoffs with Bo 243 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 5: Knicks and all you did. I mean, I tracked bow 244 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 5: Knicks from week one where he literally could not complete 245 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 5: a pass to a wide receiver the first two weeks 246 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: of the season, and he thought, what did they get? 247 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 5: And by the end of the year was winning games 248 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: for him and taking care of the football and becoming 249 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 5: a legitimate, you know, prospect that you can see Denver 250 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 5: competing for playoff spots every year with Bo Nicks and 251 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 5: he started all eighteen games for him, you know, So 252 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 5: they got the right guy. 253 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: Now. 254 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 5: I think he was the fourth or the fifth quarterback 255 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: drafted last year. But Atlanta feels good about you know, 256 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: Michael Pennix Junior. I think Washington struck gold. I think 257 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 5: Caleb is to find a good home with his Duke coach. 258 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: Like you got. 259 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 5: You got to draft these guys wherever you draft him, 260 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 5: and you got to give him every chance to develop, 261 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 5: and you've got to get good coaches around him to 262 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 5: do it with. And so that's when the Jets are out, 263 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 5: whether it's I believe they should sign a free agent 264 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 5: quarterback and they should draft the quarterback, you know, and 265 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 5: get the best possible prospect they can, regardless of how 266 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 5: many assets it takes to do it. Like, you've got 267 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: to get that guy in your building, and you have 268 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: to start, you know, showing the belief in them and 269 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 5: the ability to build around them. 270 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm glad you just brought that up. 271 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: So let's speak a little bit about twenty twenty five options. 272 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor is currently on the roster. 273 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: He's been a member, of course, of seven different organizations, 274 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: sixty two percent passer over the course of his career 275 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: ball the sixty eight career touchdown passes twenty nine interceptions, 276 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: hasn't started more than six games in the season since 277 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Jordan Travis was a draft pick working his 278 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: way back from that devastating ankle injury at Florida State 279 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: in twenty two three. Adrian Martinez signed a futures deal 280 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: here in January. Those are the three guys currently on 281 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: the roster. 282 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: Look, I mean, Tyrod, you mentioned all the teams he's 283 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 5: been on. I mean he was there with Josh Allen, 284 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: he was in the Chargers with Justin Herbert, you know, 285 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 5: and scheduled to start and got a puncture wound to 286 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 5: the chest and Justin took over. They never look back. 287 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: I mean, he's been in that seat where he's been 288 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: the guy. Then you know a Baker Mayfield. 289 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: He was in. 290 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 5: Cleveland with Baker and Baker, you know, beat him out, 291 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: you know by the fourth game, I think it was 292 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: a Jets game when Baker came in. It took over 293 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: on Thursday night. But you know, he's been in this role. 294 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: He knows his role. 295 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 5: But he's still is athletic, he still can win games 296 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: for you. He can still put a gate play together. 297 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 5: He's I think he's very capable of being a bridge 298 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: quarterback right now. 299 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't be comfortable with Jordan Travison. 300 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: And you know Adrian Martinez, An. 301 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: Adrian and Tyrod right now. 302 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 5: I mean I would look real hard at drafting a 303 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: quarterback as high as I possibly could. 304 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: So we're gonna get back to the draft here in 305 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: a second. 306 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: A former Jet quarterback Sam Donald broke out under Kevin 307 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: O'Connell there. 308 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: Last year in Minnesota. 309 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: He could be a free agent Justin Fields, who of 310 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: course started the season with the Steelers last year. He 311 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: made those six starts before Russell Wilson took over. Maybe 312 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is out there as well. Former Giants quarterback 313 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones could be out there in the market. 314 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: Now. 315 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people are speculating that Kirk Cousins possibly 316 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: could be released. 317 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it would be awkward to 318 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 5: bring Sam Donald back, you know, to pay him, you know, 319 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: elite money after you know his tenure here ended, you know, 320 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: without fanfare. 321 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: I think it would be awkward. 322 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 5: But you have to you have to, like, honestly, Darren's 323 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 5: got to really look at every option, and Aaron Glenn, 324 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: they got to look at every single option carefully. All right, 325 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 5: It's an important decision. So I mean, everybody is on 326 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 5: the table. If Derek Carr gets released, you know, is 327 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 5: he on the table? If Kellamore goes in there and 328 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 5: said we want to start fresh, all these like. 329 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: You can't. You have to look at every prospect. 330 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 5: Nobody thought that Sam Donald could have done what he 331 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 5: did this year. Nobody that watched them in Carolina or 332 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 5: the Jets or even one game in San Francisco. Nobody 333 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: could have predicted that he could have played that well, 334 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: won that many games. But that's what you have to do, 335 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 5: Like you have to take each guy, put them in 336 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: a vacuum. And say, okay, if we put elite offensive 337 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 5: line in front of him like they did in Minnesota, 338 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: at least a very good line, and you an elite 339 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 5: running back and receivers what Canny do. And by the way, 340 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: they let the league in takeaways, so they got a 341 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: lot of extra at bats, you know, coming back to Sam, 342 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 5: but you have to you know, nobody could printed that 343 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield would win two straight division titles and win 344 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: playoff games at Tampa until you put a team around 345 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 5: them and gave him an opportunity. 346 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys were those guys both cast offs, right, 347 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and then Sam Donald, and they resurrect their careers. 348 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: Yes, and so, and you. 349 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 5: Know we started off this conversation we're talking about Jalen 350 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: Hurts was the fifty third pick. 351 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know if Riley. 352 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: Leonard could be that guy, you know, had a Notre 353 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 5: Dame and if he's a third round pick, if he's 354 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 5: got great athleticism, he's got shortcomings. They said that about Jayalen. 355 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 5: I I remember doing a college game when Jalen was 356 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 5: the starting quarterback at Alabama and. 357 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: They were playing Texas A and M. 358 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 5: They were both undefeated and I thought Jalen Hurts was 359 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: nobody could catch him. He was an elite runner, but 360 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 5: I never thought he was going to be an elite thrower. Well, 361 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 5: he's become a very good passer. So you gotta really 362 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 5: do your homework on these guys. Yes, you can go, 363 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 5: and who knows, Like, who knows what that guy is 364 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 5: gonna be? It's you can't sit here on February twelve 365 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 5: and predict what the Jets should do at quarterback. 366 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 367 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good shot, game 368 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: Day Ready, jewelry styles, and so much more at kendriscott 369 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 4: dot com. 370 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: No, you definitely can't. And you were boots on the 371 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: ground in Mobile. I don't know how you do it all, brother, 372 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: I can't keep up with you. But you were in Mobile, 373 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: before you were in New Orleans, before you were in 374 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And I know you're gonna be traveling again 375 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: this weekend. But here are some names out there that 376 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: people are talking about top prospects in two thousand and 377 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: twenty five NFL Draft. I can't believe we're already saying 378 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: that ball the twenty twenty five. But cam Ward from Miami, 379 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: Shehder Sanders of course from Colorado, Jackson Dark from Mississippi, 380 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe from Alabama, dual threat Will Howard from Ohio. 381 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: State of course was the national title. Tyler Shuck I 382 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: just saw Todd mcshade put something out there last night 383 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: saying that this guy might be one of the top 384 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: four athletic prospects at the quarterback position. Kyle McCord who 385 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: played at Syracuse, quinn Ewers from Texas. All those names 386 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be hearing in April, we are. 387 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: And we're gonna hear about him for the next three months, 388 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 5: and we're gonna put them through elite scrutiny for the 389 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 5: next three months lead up to the draft. I mean, 390 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 5: whether it's the Combine, I'll be at the Combine at 391 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 5: the end of February, whether it's the pro days, the workouts, 392 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 5: really grinding the film and going through these guys, We're 393 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: gonna get a much better composite on what these guys are. 394 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, we're gonna fall 395 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 5: in love with milrose athleticism and his arm strength. 396 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: But that happens to every single prospect. You know, we're 397 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 3: gonna fall in love with some things, not love with 398 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: some things. 399 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 5: But there's the game that's played in college is a 400 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 5: completely different game than the NFL, and the maturity level, 401 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: the commitment to the game, all those things get exposed 402 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 5: if you're not elite at all those things once you 403 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: get inside you know the building. You know, the Jets 404 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 5: went through this with Wilson from BYU, Like he didn't 405 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 5: have the commitment or the understanding of the game necessary 406 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 5: to become a top prospect, and he kept falling into 407 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: the same old traps. Now, maybe he gets rescued in 408 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: Denver and Sean Payton does some things with them, and 409 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 5: he gets a second act like some of these other 410 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 5: guys you just mentioned as possible. But like this is 411 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 5: a this is you have to The Jets have to 412 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 5: get this right. Whatever they do, they have to get 413 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: it right. 414 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying, Baldy, I wanted to ask you this. 415 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: With that being said, just because the Jets have the 416 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: seventh overall selection and they need a quarterback doesn't necessarily 417 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: mean if they stay there they should take a quarterback 418 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: at seven. 419 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: Well, they should take. 420 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 5: I can't say that they should take a quarterback at 421 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 5: seven if it's no matter what, just because there's a 422 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 5: quarterback on the board at seven and there will be 423 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: that you should take them. 424 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: You have to take them if. 425 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: You if the organization completely is an agreement that this 426 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 5: is a guy to build around, and they'll know a 427 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 5: lot from the visits and pro days and sitting down 428 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 5: with him if he's the guy. But it's the most 429 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 5: important thing that Darren Moodie's gonna do here in his 430 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 5: first year is to identify that player whoever would you know, 431 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 5: whether it's Start or mil Row or Leonard whatever, like 432 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: that's he's gonna be getting measured by that. Right with 433 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 5: Pop Nix. 434 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: Hey, we got Mons ahead that he's discussed in the draft. 435 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: But some pundits have pegged defensive tackle Mason Graham for 436 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: the Jets there at number seven, and you've been talking 437 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: about that Philadelphia defensive line. That'd be an interesting pairing 438 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: up front on the interior, Graham next to quinnin Williams. 439 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: Well, not just Graham, but I was in Mobile. 440 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: I think this is the deepest and best defensive tackle 441 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 5: draft we've seen a long time. 442 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: Like there's gonna be you can find him you know, 443 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: was every round. 444 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: But you could look at Darius Alexander Toledo, who had 445 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 5: an unbelievable final year, didn't do a whole lot before that, 446 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: but big, strong, twitchy like there's and they come in 447 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 5: they're three hundred and forty five pounds, they're two hundred 448 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: and ninety five pounds. 449 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 2: Like. 450 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 5: There's pass rushers, some better than others. There's run stuffers 451 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 5: like you can get. In fact, I believe that there's 452 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 5: gonna be a team that's gonna draft two defensive tackles 453 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 5: in this draft. It's just that deep right now. And 454 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 5: so it's a good it's a good position if you're. 455 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Looking for and after everybody just watched the Super Bowl, 456 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: I would think that everybody's going to be lowing up 457 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: along that defensive lot. 458 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 5: Well, I mean even if you look at, say, I 459 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 5: thought the most improved player in this league. 460 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: This year was Nolan Smith of the Eagles. 461 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: You didn't start. I mean, they had Bryce Hoff for 462 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 5: the first six weeks. Didn't work out. But by the 463 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 5: time Nolan Smith got on the field and you watched 464 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 5: week the week like he had sex in every postseason game, 465 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: he blew up, He knocked guards out of the game. 466 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: Like his ability to strike and really bring heat off. 467 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 5: The edge is almost second to nobody in this whole 468 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 5: business right now. But drafted develop He's the thirties pick 469 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 5: of the draft and here is in the second year. 470 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be elite player like Jackson. Like 471 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 5: if you look at you know, some of these other 472 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 5: players that they drafted, they all developed. So you know, 473 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 5: Clinton Hurt, the defense line coach, did a great job, 474 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 5: you know, really identifying these guys. 475 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you about the new regime. 476 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, Darren Mugie Glenn, I tweeted this the other day. 477 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: I saw this in an article written by Dan Watson, 478 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: and I loved it. Everybody doesn't fit with what we 479 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: do because not everybody can take it. 480 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: It's for the tough, it's for the grinders, it's for 481 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: the gritty. 482 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: It's for the guys who want to improve on a 483 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: day to day basis, and you are never satisfied this guy. 484 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: That's some sweet music for you, Baldy, and tell us 485 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: your thoughts at Aaron Glenn coming back here to the Jets. 486 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 5: I'm excited about to hire because of the things that 487 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 5: he stands for. And there's gonna be zero tolerance, you know, 488 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: for everything from from being late to lack of effort 489 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: to not be in the training room. 490 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna you're gonna be held accountable. 491 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 5: And like, I don't think you're gonna get a lot 492 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 5: of fiery speeches at Aaron Glenn. But I think the 493 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 5: big thing is I got to see development from the 494 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 5: classroom to the offseason walkthroughs, to the practice field to 495 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 5: the game. I got to see players develop. Like player 496 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 5: development is music to my ears. And that's coaching, and 497 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 5: that's teaching, that's demanding, that's never being satisfied. That's finding 498 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 5: those type of players that are never satisfied. You hurt 499 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes on the stand after the game, after the 500 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 5: defastating loss, saying, this one's gonna stay with me a 501 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 5: long time. I'm never gonna forget this. I'm never gonna 502 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 5: forget this day. And that's fuel going into the offseason 503 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: for Patrick Bull. But those are the players you want 504 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: that they're never gonna be satisfied. 505 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn is gonna be no bs, gonna demand accountability, 506 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna make sure that these guys know what the standard is. 507 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I also think he's gonna 508 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: know when to love the players up as well. 509 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 5: Would you, yeah, knock him down. Knock him down, You 510 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 5: can't do that. Everybody is wired a little bit different. 511 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 5: You motivate different players differently as you get to know 512 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 5: your players. The master of all time was Bill Parcells, 513 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 5: but you know he everybody wanted to become a Parcels guy. 514 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 5: But he didn't just give you love like you had 515 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 5: to earn it, you know. And so I think Aaron 516 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: understands a lot of that part of it. But yes, 517 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 5: there's gonna be that part of it too. There's gonna 518 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 5: be camaraderie. 519 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: There's gonna be team building, There's gonna be a chance 520 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: to enjoy it. 521 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: It's not gonna just be a grind and knock you down. 522 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 5: There's gonna be the other part to it. You can 523 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 5: push and you can pull. There's a little fine dance 524 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 5: the coaches. 525 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Let's go rapid fire on some of these coaching editions, 526 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: starting with the coordinator Steve Wilts. He's been known to 527 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: be quite aggressive. Aaron Glen was aggressive as a defensive 528 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: play caller himself. 529 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: In Detroit. 530 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: We saw that both these guys like to blitz WALDI, 531 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: what do you think about a g adding the experience Wilts, Well. 532 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: Steve's got a lot of experience. 533 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 5: You know, he's been a head coach, he's been a coordinator, 534 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: He's done all those things. So he's been in those 535 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: shoes that can help. Aaron got a great deal learned 536 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 5: from some of the mistakes Steve been made in his 537 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 5: one year or whatever. But I think it's a good hire. Look, 538 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: the aggressiveness is fine. The Eagles didn't blitz once in 539 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl, not one time, all right, their front 540 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 5: four dominated the game. So there's a time not just 541 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 5: because you blitzed because you had to in Detroit, because 542 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 5: you lost some pass. 543 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: Rushers and you were forced to do it or whatever. 544 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 5: Steaks Steve's past is, but doesn't mean that you have 545 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 5: to do that. 546 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: You have to play to your players strengths. 547 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 5: And so you know they're gonna get Johnson back on 548 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 5: the defensive line, you know, to go with the development 549 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 5: of Will and quitin like they might be able to 550 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 5: do a lot with just their front. 551 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: Pol Tanner Angstrand comes over from the Detroit Lions. He's 552 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: the passing game coordinator under Ben Johnson. There first time 553 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: play caller, but you also have some experience right next 554 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: to him and Scott Turner, a former offensive coordinator himself. 555 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: And Scott Turner the son of Door Tournament. 556 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 5: So, I mean there's a long line of lineage there 557 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 5: about how to protect the quarterback play action passes. The 558 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 5: quarterback is gonna be under center. It's not going to 559 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 5: be a shotgun offense. There's certain things that you know 560 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 5: right now. 561 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: Now. 562 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 5: Detroit had an elite personnel, all right, elite offensive line, 563 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: Pro bowlers along the offense line. Like, there's a lot 564 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 5: to work with there in Detroit. So the Jets are 565 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 5: not there yet talent wise. That's you know, Darren's job, 566 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 5: that's Aaron Glenn's job, you know, to start building. 567 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: The wall in front of whatever the quarterback is gonna be. 568 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 5: They had a pure pocket quarterback, you know, in Jared 569 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: Goff the last three years. 570 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: They knew where he was gonna be every play. 571 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 5: There's a lot of creativity to the offense, which is 572 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 5: fine once you established what the offense is. 573 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: Like, I think you've. 574 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 5: Got to establish, Okay, we're gonna be under center twenty 575 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: five thirty percent of the time. Play actual pass is 576 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: gonna be a big part of it. We're gonna take 577 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 5: our shots. Here's how we're gonna do it. Here's how 578 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 5: we're gonna max protect. Like there's a playbook there that's 579 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 5: in existence, but it's all based on what your talent is. 580 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: That's one of those things ag was asked about about, Hey, 581 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: do you like some of the talent here? And one 582 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: of the things, in terms of the comparison with Detroit, 583 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: he said, hey, listen, when we got in there and 584 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: we started rolling, he pointed to that offensive line. 585 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 5: I mean, Pine Seol's first team on Pro Frank Ragnow 586 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 5: is an on pro center. 587 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: You know. 588 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 5: I mean, they they they built their wall. They invested 589 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 5: heavily in it, you know. I mean they went out 590 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 5: got Kevin Zeidler in free agency, who's been a stud 591 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 5: right guard. You know, Taylor Deco was the first round 592 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: picket left tackle. I mean, they invested over way before honestly, 593 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 5: Dan Campbell got there, they'd already invested in the line. 594 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 5: But you know, I remember when Pine Sewell was drafted. 595 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 5: Do we go get an elite receiver or do we 596 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 5: go the elite right tackle? You know, they made the 597 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 5: right choice in getting Peney, you know, and then you know. 598 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 5: They they they had a good backfield, you know, and 599 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: they decided to go away from DeAndre Swift, you know, 600 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 5: and they went out and got themselves, you know, and 601 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: drafted an elite player at Alabama in the first round 602 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 5: and said, we want a home run hitter, you know, 603 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 5: at running backs. So they rebuilt their running back room. 604 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 5: I mean, they made some bold moves that a lot 605 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 5: of teams. I mean, Teul Picklin's on the running back 606 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: seems far fetched these days, but it was. 607 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: You can do that when you have an elite offensive line. 608 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: He's a perfect fit in that offense. So I wanted 609 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: to ask you about Chris Banjo because I know you 610 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: were doing baldy breakdowns on him when he was a player, 611 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: only thirty four years old. 612 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: He comes over from Denver. A lot of connections here. 613 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: When you look at the staff, you can say, okay, 614 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Mike west Off obviously he played for AG in that 615 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: defensive backfield when he was in New Orleans. 616 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: But that guy had a NonStop motor. He's going to 617 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: bring energy into the building. 618 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 5: Well, you got to have it at that position. I mean, 619 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 5: you just got to. I mean, it's just important. It's 620 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 5: just important to be able to do that to energize 621 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: a franchise. And so I think the one thing that 622 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 5: I've noticed, you know, whether it's Drake Blig like Aaron's 623 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 5: bringing a lot of. 624 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: Former players in. 625 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, keeping on Jefferson was a good move at wide receiver, 626 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 5: like I think Detroit had Hank Fraley, they had former 627 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 5: players on their staff. 628 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: And I'm a big proponent of it. 629 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 5: I mean, players have to decide if they want to coach, 630 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 5: the commitment to it. Aaron obviously made that commitment as 631 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: a player, rose through the ranks here as the head coach, 632 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 5: and I think I wouldn't be surprised to see some 633 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 5: of these position coaches. 634 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: Rise to become not just coordinators, but head coaches. 635 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 5: Like I think there's a part of him that wants 636 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 5: to You saw what Dan Campbell's douge with Ben Johnson, 637 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn like part of it you've seen, honestly, you 638 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 5: know Nick Sirianna do it, Aaron, Andy Reid do it. 639 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: Like. 640 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 5: Part of it is if you're a great teacher, it's 641 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 5: just not the players, it's the coaches as well. 642 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: Coaching the coaches is a big part of it. 643 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 5: And I'm I'm kind of anxious to see how many 644 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 5: of these coaches get to that level where they become 645 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 5: top coordinators, top lieutenants. 646 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if we do have a Detroit situation on 647 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: our hands here at one Jets Drive. You know, the 648 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: Green and White had a lot of success with Aaron. 649 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: Let's end here. Jet's got to get the quarterback position, right. 650 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: We know that. 651 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: But as far as Aaron, now that he's got a 652 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: staff complete it in Darren Mugi, what do they got 653 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: to do over the next couple months Because ultimately, these 654 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: guys are going to be on the practice field and 655 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: they got to look up and down that roster too, 656 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: because some guys externally people might say, well, that's a 657 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: talented dude, he'll be there. Well, not necessarily, because these 658 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: guys are going to put their stamp and they also 659 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: want certain characteristics in their players. 660 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: And they deserve that right to look for those things. 661 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: So honestly, going back and combing the seventeen games this 662 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 5: year is a priority and just identifying their type of players, 663 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 5: getting to know the players right now as quickly as 664 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 5: they can. Some guys are rehabbing, some guys are still 665 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 5: in the facility, whatever, but they got to get to 666 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 5: the other players because they have decisions to make about 667 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 5: free agency. They got decisions to make about players that 668 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 5: are gonna be part of this future, not gonna be 669 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 5: part of the future, whether it's a guy like DeVante Adams, 670 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 5: you know, I mean, whatever it is, I believe that 671 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 5: you should start with youth and young players in young Town. 672 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: Jermaine Johnson coming back is gonna be part. 673 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 5: Seeing the development of Will McDonald is good, you know, 674 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 5: but I want to you know, seeing you know, you know, 675 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 5: what they did at certain linebacker linebackers this year, what 676 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: they've done, Like, I think you've got to start identifying 677 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 5: players that are gonna be part of this regime. 678 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: Whether you're gonna pay them. 679 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 5: You know, or you know, or whether they're gonna be 680 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 5: one year deals or whether they're gonna be jennisons Like 681 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: these are critical decisions as you start to build your 682 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 5: new ninety man roster. 683 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: This is awesome, as always, a dawn of a new 684 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: day here for the New York Jets will be going 685 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: in a different direction at the quarterback position under Aaron 686 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: Glenn and Darren Mougi. 687 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: Hey, Matt, and thanks for bringing the pipes out. 688 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, let me just say one thing finished with this 689 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 5: because I've heard you know, the Jets obviously do not 690 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 5: have a great history, right, you know, in recent history 691 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 5: it's not been great. We've seen turnover front office coaches. 692 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: But just because it hasn't been good, doesn't I want 693 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn to get every opportunity and every optimistic opportunity 694 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 5: to turn this thing around. He deserves that. He's earned that, 695 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 5: And so as an outsider like, I don't care what 696 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 5: happened to Robert Sala or anybody else that's been coming 697 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 5: through those doors, Joe Douglas, like, I'm a fan of 698 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 5: some of those guys. But Aaron Glenn, Darren Mugie deserved 699 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 5: the opportunity to get this thing right, and they deserve 700 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 5: every opportunity. It might not happen this year, but they 701 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 5: gave that opportunity to Buffalo after a bunch of coaching changes, 702 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 5: and they got it right. 703 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: The Jets deserve a chance, and Aaron deserves a chance 704 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: To get this Inside of my friend,