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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, March eleventh, twenty twenty five. I'm Jay Skis

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is fun. We got a live show coming

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Speaker 3: It will excellent. Yeah. I hope we get savage.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we do have to decide on the pizza.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's local. Yeah yeah, that's a good call by

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Speaker 3: local hot pizza. A Savage in you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good, great box.

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Speaker 1: So looking forward to that later on in March. But

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Speaker 1: let's talk about last night's NBA action. Definitely focusing I

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Speaker 1: think on the Western Conference from last night's key games

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Speaker 1: because we had the rematch, we had round two, I

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Speaker 1: one forty to one twenty seven, Denver bouncing back here.

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Speaker 1: So she won some grit against a younger, deeper team

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Speaker 1: in Oka See on a back to back situation for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's start with Jokic. He had his best game

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Speaker 5: of those four rounds against okay See. I mentioned how

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Speaker 5: Hertenstein played him pretty well the game before, one on one,

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Speaker 5: and then and then Jokic just killed everybody who came

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Speaker 5: at him. That's just what he does with back to back.

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Speaker 5: He had forty one minutes the night before, then forty

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Speaker 2: Michael Malone said to Jokic, just take the night off.

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Speaker 5: Went at it, had extremely well, thirty five against anybody

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Speaker 5: who guard him. Jamal Murray was awesome. The thirty four

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Speaker 5: about how did they do it against Okac? That seven

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Speaker 1: It's a shot that they give up though, sorry to

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Speaker 5: Right in front of Okasey's bench. Did some trash stocking,

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Speaker 5: And I watched every single minute. Now, the Nuggets played

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Speaker 5: and Malone said, you have your best your base defense

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Speaker 5: they didn't have him in the fourth quarter out the

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Speaker 2: So I just think this is a bit of an anomaly,

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Speaker 2: Obviously the Nuggets responded, yeah, with that great and that

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Speaker 5: But to see yeah, guys like Peyton Watson, Jalen Pickett,

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Speaker 3: All comes down to three point shooting. That's how you

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Speaker 3: corner three pointers. All the Peyton Watson threes were from

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Speaker 3: it looks beautiful. Splash, splash, splash, four for four from three.

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Speaker 3: Pickt went two for three from three as well. They

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Speaker 3: went eighteen of thirty two overall. That's fifty six percent.

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Speaker 3: You shoot like that against any team, you got a

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Speaker 3: But in reality, it's Jamal Murray is the X factor

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Speaker 3: for this team. Seems like too good of a player

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Speaker 3: the two losses to OKC that Murray has played in

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Speaker 3: this season, he's got twenty nine combined points on ten

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Speaker 3: at last season, three losses, all under fifty percent shooting.

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Speaker 3: The one win last year he had nineteen points and

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Speaker 3: he'll get the same exact looks in the playoffs. Can't

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Speaker 3: we won the game that really mattered, and now you

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Speaker 3: need to risk anything here. Awesome win for the Nuggets

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Speaker 3: to be able to respond the way they did. Of course,

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Speaker 3: Jokich is awesome, but Murray playing like an All Star

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Speaker 1: Yep, and Westbrook obviously played better than he did on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and Watson hitting threes is found money. I love the

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Speaker 1: He did that help side defense. I mean that guy

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Speaker 1: So he started with the defense. Then obviously hit the threes.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this is great. It's great that they split this.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we see these teams in a matchup.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Peynon Watson is fun to watch. As you said,

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Speaker 5: If we do that under heralded guy that's in the

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Speaker 5: He can just sky He's that good. I think for

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Speaker 5: the Nuggets to respond that way, it's all. It's definitely

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Speaker 5: led by Nikola Jokic and him just wanting to play

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Speaker 5: And I said, as I said, Michael Malone said, tick

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Speaker 5: about because, as we've said, I mean this guy three

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Speaker 5: MVPs in four years. If he played with Jamal Murray

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Speaker 5: and he has to play in playoffs because he did

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Speaker 5: lot of fun to see the Nuggets respond that way.

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Speaker 5: There's some great in that team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamal Murray was actually really good when Yokic was sitting,

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Speaker 3: which I think is the big key for the Nuggets,

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Speaker 3: because you know they're going to be offensively powerful when

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Speaker 3: Jokic is out there handling the ball and touching at

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Speaker 3: every single possession. That's a given. But they're not always

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Speaker 3: really really cool. I do not, though, like the NBA

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Speaker 3: baseball schedule. I hate this the back to back double

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Speaker 3: headers it robs this second game of hype, and like

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Speaker 3: the first one means more. It just it does both

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Speaker 3: teams rested coming in like geared up for this game.

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Speaker 3: This one, it's like, okay, Jaylen Williams went out both

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Speaker 1: Er, Yeah, I don't disagree with that. It's also maybe

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Speaker 1: I guess you wouldn't have to play any other conference.

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Speaker 1: Point is, Denver is not that far all that far

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Speaker 1: it to like one one six to give the Lakers

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Speaker 3: Luca's hair after that deep three? Can I talk to

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Speaker 3: He was complaining to the manager quite a bit last night.

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Speaker 3: A dispiriting Luca game. I would have to say. He

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Speaker 1: Well, we were debating on yesterday's show. Yeah, like how

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the La Fires have given them plenty of back

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Speaker 2: They definitely have plenty.

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Speaker 5: Nah, Nah, that's terrible stuff. Just stay away from the Mass.

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Speaker 5: Well they had two referees out there, stay away from

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Speaker 5: It's wild. The Sun's hit twenty threes. That's a lot

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Speaker 5: talk trash, whether it's you know, on the internet, on.

434
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Speaker 2: The tweets or somebody. Yeah, that hilarious. You skip billis,

435
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 2: said Kevin Durantz. Done. Kevin Durant said, we're both done.

436
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 3: I guess man, we're both washed.

437
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, see you later. Yeah.

438
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Speaker 5: The Phoenix team is troubling. They're just playing too many

439
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 5: good teams. So even when they have great offensive games

440
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 5: like this one again splashplash slash.

441
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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant was awesome in this game. They're not gonna win.

442
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 5: There's not gonna win because there's gonna be fight from

443
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Speaker 5: the other spot aside, including Cam Spencer, Pat's bro.

444
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Speaker 1: Not to be confused with Pat Spencer.

445
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Cam, that's his brother.

446
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Speaker 5: This is Cam who had fifty one points for the

447
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Speaker 5: Memphis Hustle in the G League.

448
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Speaker 2: This guy can score in the league. Man.

449
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Speaker 5: Yeah, as Trey said yesterday we were watching, I had

450
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Speaker 5: no idea who this guy was. He mentioned, Yeah, he's

451
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Speaker 5: the Yukon man. Two time champ, two time champ.

452
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Speaker 3: That's why he goes the line of knocks down to

453
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Speaker 3: game micing free throw sixteen points. It was a two way,

454
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Speaker 3: but the story was John Morant. This guy's actually playing

455
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Speaker 3: really well right now. The Grizzlies kind of riding the

456
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Speaker 3: ship after losing three straight on beaters. Now they're not

457
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Speaker 3: beating the best teams, but I think it's still encouraging

458
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Speaker 3: that they seem to have figured out some sort of

459
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Speaker 3: treatment plan for John Morant's shoulder. Here he said during

460
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Speaker 3: I think or after the Mavericks game, I don't think

461
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to say this on TV, but I got

462
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Speaker 3: some help. So whatever they're shooting in his shoulder is working.

463
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Speaker 3: He's had thirty one, thirty two and then twenty nine

464
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Speaker 3: and twelve. Last night he was playing so well that

465
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Speaker 3: he threw an alley up to Marvin Bagley and it

466
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Speaker 3: went in the hoop. So things were going Memphis his way, certainly,

467
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Speaker 3: But Joss handling the ball a lot more now He's

468
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Speaker 3: playing and pick and roll a lot more now. Now

469
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Speaker 3: that Jaron Jackson Junior is on the bench with an injury,

470
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Speaker 3: it looks a little bit more like a John Morant

471
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Speaker 3: forward team rather than an ensemble team, which maybe is

472
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Speaker 3: what the Grizzlies need heading into the playoffs here, because

473
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Speaker 3: if they're going to make any sort of noise, they

474
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Speaker 3: need Ja to be like a thirty point per game

475
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Speaker 3: scorer because their half court offense can be so brutal.

476
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Speaker 3: There were still a chance they could have thrown this

477
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Speaker 3: one away. Desmond Bain tried his best, gave Kevin Durant

478
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Speaker 3: a shot, but Durant missed it. But I think the

479
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Speaker 3: fact that the Grizzlies have been able to get a

480
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Speaker 3: couple of wins here and Jaw is rounding into form,

481
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Speaker 3: even if it's this late in the season, that's got

482
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Speaker 3: to be a good sign for them.

483
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Speaker 1: I thought Jaw looked really explosive last night. For sure.

484
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Speaker 1: You said the one where he like throwing an alley

485
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Speaker 1: oop to Bagley, who he threw a couple other ones

486
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Speaker 1: too that actually, yeah, obviously converted, but this one he

487
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: just chucked in my accent. But then you know he's

488
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Speaker 1: having a good night when the goggles are coming out.

489
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Speaker 1: The awesome dimes that he's done and up left and right.

490
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Speaker 1: He had those going last night. And can I just

491
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Speaker 1: say to a defender out there that's playing John Morant

492
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Speaker 1: in a close game where the Grizzlies need a bucket

493
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Speaker 1: and John Morant's isolating at the top, you know what

494
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Speaker 1: he's going to do. He's going to dribble to his left,

495
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Speaker 1: get around the corner of the free throw line, and

496
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Speaker 1: then do his little push shot with his right hand.

497
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Speaker 1: He does that all the time. I know, easier said

498
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Speaker 1: than done trying to stop Joffrick and Moran, but man,

499
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Speaker 1: try and take away him going to that spot. He

500
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Speaker 1: wants to go to that site every single time. And

501
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Speaker 1: he got that little tear drop or a little push

502
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Speaker 1: shot to fall. He rans me a Iverson when he

503
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: does that, just like a bigger, sort of taller Iverson.

504
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 1: He had that shot in his bag, I thought. But awesome,

505
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Speaker 1: awesome game from him. And I'm with you, Like they're

506
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Speaker 1: playing after all those like devastating losses for them to

507
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Speaker 1: pick up three straight now to be in fourth, to

508
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Speaker 1: be right there behind Denver, basically right there with the Lakers.

509
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Speaker 3: Yea.

510
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Speaker 1: You know, if this is a team like probably more

511
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Speaker 1: than those other teams, like, they'd really like to have

512
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Speaker 1: that home court advantage in a potential second round, not

513
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Speaker 1: even be easy to get there no matter who they play,

514
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Speaker 1: but them more than even the Nuggets of the Lakers.

515
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Speaker 1: To me, it's like, oh, yeah, they would love a

516
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Speaker 1: number two seed to at least help their chances to advance.

517
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they will need jaw as Drey said, as

518
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Speaker 5: number one ish type of player. If Jaron Jackson Junior

519
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 5: is balling out there, hopefully he'll be back soon. But yah,

520
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 5: brought the dunks yesterday, brought the ball fakes yesterday.

521
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Speaker 2: He had it all.

522
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Speaker 1: As for those other teams near the top of the

523
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Speaker 1: West standings, JAD, you can throw up the standings right now.

524
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Speaker 1: I guess we grabbed it from one through eight because

525
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Speaker 1: it is toight, very toy. We had Jabari Smith Junior

526
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Speaker 1: starring for the Rockets as they beat the Magic, third

527
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Speaker 1: straight win for Houston, so they're there in the mix.

528
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Speaker 1: And then you see the Warriors there. Curry scored twenty

529
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Speaker 1: four Beuler triple double they beat the Blazers for their

530
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Speaker 1: fifth straight win TK. What a mess here, what a

531
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Speaker 1: glorious mess in the Western Conference.

532
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Speaker 3: Look at all those wins streaks. Skates, I know, man

533
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: fourth through eight all have a three or better game

534
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Speaker 3: win streak. Memphis in Houston at three, Golden State Minnesota

535
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Speaker 3: at five, the Clippers at three. Even if you're winning,

536
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Speaker 3: you can't make up any ground in the Western Conference

537
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Speaker 3: right now. Golden State, though, is won ten straight games

538
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Speaker 3: with Jimmy Butler in the lineup. That's up to d

539
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Speaker 3: Anthony Melton range. Right now, they're nine games over five hundred.

540
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Speaker 3: I think this team is better than the d Anthony

541
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Speaker 3: Melton Warriors from earlier in the season. Jimmy says, it's

542
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: simple basketball. If you're open, shoot it. But if there's

543
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Speaker 3: another guy open, pass it to him. He's got a

544
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: better shot. That's all they're doing. They're moving the ball,

545
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 3: and they're getting great performances from their stars in Butler

546
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Speaker 3: and in Curry. They look great. Yeah, they have top

547
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Speaker 3: five on the ball both sides of the ball. Since

548
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Speaker 3: the Jimmy Butler trade, I think they're a realistic contender,

549
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Speaker 3: even if they're still way down in the stands.

550
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I think a lot

551
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Speaker 1: of people probably would agree with you. The Jimmy Butler

552
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Speaker 1: Steph Curry Warriors in a potential matchup with any of

553
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: those teams outside of maybe okay, see maybe even okay see,

554
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: to some people, they might be taking the Warriors over

555
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: all those teams tasts two through five, I guess ahead

556
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Speaker 1: of them. I think that's been fair to say, isn't it.

557
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

558
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the motor that this team has now, it looks

559
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 5: like the Miami Heat that went to the NBA Finals.

560
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 5: Jimmy has got it had an effect. There's no doubt.

561
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Speaker 2: I know you don't like d' anthony Melton, but the

562
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Speaker 2: Anthony Melton was great.

563
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Speaker 3: But it's not Jimmy. They had a nice hot start

564
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Speaker 3: for sure.

565
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Speaker 2: When he was helping.

566
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Speaker 5: Yeah, as they have, they had a different mentality than

567
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Speaker 5: and they have one now because of Jimmy. Yeah, the

568
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 5: size is definitely a worry to me. How it's it's

569
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Speaker 5: Jimmy at the four, Andre Mont and the team the

570
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Speaker 5: team with. Okay, see will they be able to take

571
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Speaker 5: advantage of that, We'll see. We'll see if Hartenstein and

572
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Speaker 5: Homegren still have not played a ton together. I mean

573
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Speaker 5: it is like about three hundred possessions now that they've

574
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Speaker 5: played together. I do still think that that is the

575
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Speaker 5: team to beat. I mean, I'm not taking Golden State

576
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 5: over that team, but Golden State's gonna feel good because

577
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 5: of everything they've done. Draymond is going to talk so

578
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 5: much trash, but the confidence that Jimmy Bler has brought

579
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 5: to that team and the extra motor that that secondary motor,

580
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 5: I guess it's going to keep up. In the playoffs

581
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 5: still a question. You know, Jimmy didn't play in the

582
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Speaker 5: playoffs last year TVD. But yeah, they outside of the

583
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 5: number one team, even though they're they are the young teams.

584
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Speaker 5: So yeah, the Warriors are going to feel great. The

585
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 5: Lakers were feeling great until Lebron got hurt, so they'll

586
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: feel good too.

587
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Speaker 1: Any other notes on Rockets win there, or Warriors win

588
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: or that Western Conference mess.

589
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: I gave my piece.

590
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Speaker 1: I will say, just from the Warriors Blazers game. I

591
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: gotta assume Denny Avdia is winning some fantasy basketball leagues

592
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: right now. For some owners, he's hooping. Man, he had

593
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: a monster game again last night. I know he missed

594
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Speaker 1: a couple of games in March, but I think he's

595
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Speaker 1: averaging like twenty ten and five and sort of shooting

596
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: the three ball really well in March. So if you

597
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: don't have Dniofdia, I mean, go pick him up. I

598
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: guess I'm sure he's on a lot of rosters by

599
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: this point, but guys putting up some numbers. Other takeaways

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Speaker 1: from last night's very busy NBA slate, I mean there's

601
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Speaker 1: another like seven games here, any you want to touch on.

602
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Speaker 5: Well, I just as you mentioned, it's white guy season

603
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 5: in the those are the guys you gotta watch. Guys

604
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 5: like Baylor Shireman, Yeah, playing from the Boston Celtics, Cam Spencer,

605
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 5: Colin Gillespie, Colin Castleton, Colin.

606
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Speaker 3: Colin.

607
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: There's so many guys out there.

608
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Speaker 1: Sam Howser too, I mean he's a super w Yeah.

609
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know of these guys. You know of Sam Housard,

610
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: these other guys.

611
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 5: We've heard of Tristan Vuksovich of the Chicago Bulls, but

612
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 5: now he's playing too.

613
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Speaker 3: Wizards.

614
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Speaker 2: Oh the Wizards, Yeah they different.

615
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Speaker 3: White guy.

616
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: John conchar is playing. Now it's white guy.

617
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: Sees silly season.

618
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Speaker 3: Here's a white guy, Josh Giddy. Twenty nine points, ten rebounds,

619
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Speaker 3: for assists. He's did, sprain his ankle and left in

620
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: a walking boot. Bulls got their first win against a

621
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: five hundred team since January twenty seventh. That was Zach

622
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: Levine's last game with the Bulls before he got hurt

623
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: and got traded. I'm worried, guys, cuz I got a

624
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: text from my dad and from my Tommy Poro, and

625
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: now I got to ask, what are the Bulls gonna

626
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: pay Josh Giddy this offseason? They traded him for Caruso,

627
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: also like Giddy. In nine games after the All Star Break,

628
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: twenty three points a game, eleven rebounds, eight assists per game,

629
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Speaker 3: shooting fifty two from the field, fifty two from three

630
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 3: what eighty seven percent of the pre throw line, taking

631
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Speaker 3: four threes a game. You know, Ball called him the

632
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: punk Satawny Phil of Mickey mousemart. When this guy starts playing, well,

633
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: you know, the games getting silly. Yeah, but this is

634
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: when you start making money. Because I don't know, the

635
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: Bulls obviously have his restricted free agency rights. I can't

636
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: imagine another team is getting suckered into this, but the

637
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: Bulls will. Yeah, the balls one hundred percent. Well, so

638
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: what do you think will get paid? Oh?

639
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: Boy, I.

640
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: Haven't thought about it. Huh No, not really.

641
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: But he's making himself money. Yeah, for sure. I can't

642
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: believe he shooting fifty two percent from three. That's why

643
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: the Thunder got rid of him taking percent three point shooter.

644
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: He'd probably still be without.

645
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: I think so.

646
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I think, so here's the one guy that can't choot.

647
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: Get him out of here. But yeah, he's on fire.

648
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

649
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna starting solid?

650
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna be at I think he'll get thirty million

651
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: a yeah minimum, and I hope it's not forty.

652
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

653
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: He puts up numbers when he has the ball. He

654
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: does he pushes the pace. He's a big guy for

655
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: a guard, so he gets rebounds. He's a good passer,

656
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: plays downhill. It actually is fun to watch him and

657
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: Kobe White play together, him and Natus Bozellis. But your

658
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 3: team's gonna lose a lot if Josh Giddy is your

659
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: number one, which is maybe good, you know, because of

660
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: the Bulls. They shouldn't be winning, even though they keep winning.

661
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: They're usually beating bad teams. But they actually beat a

662
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: good team last night. I guess no Haliburton for the

663
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: Pacers once again. They're struggling right now. Another team, my Jazz.

664
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: They might not win another game this season. John Collins

665
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: took thirty shots last night.

666
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had like twenty five shots, like almost halfway

667
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: through the game.

668
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

669
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: We were like, what the hell's going on in this game?

670
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: All right, twenty five players this season now that Collins

671
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: have done has done it, have taken at least thirty

672
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: shots in a game. He's only the sixth player of

673
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: those twenty five who is not an All Star at

674
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: any time in his career. So I'm going to offer you,

675
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 3: guys one guess a piece. Okay, if you have one,

676
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: if you can name you get one guess. If you

677
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: get I'll give you a dollar right now.

678
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: Oh so you're saying we can get.

679
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: I'd like to throw it at Jordan Poole. Boom do

680
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: that dollar?

681
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, this is Josh getting money here.

682
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: That's right.

683
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: I want another?

684
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: Is there another? Jazz?

685
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: I can't. I'm not giving you any hints. Okay, okay,

686
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: I'll give you one hint. Two of these guys playing

687
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: the same team.

688
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: Kobe White, you're out.

689
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: I'll give you another one.

690
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

691
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: I want to say.

692
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he got there though.

693
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: Oh, Colin Saxton, maybe really, I don't know.

694
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: What do you think, Chad I was gonna go, I

695
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: was gonna go. I don't think he got there, but

696
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Kyle Kuzma, Oh.

697
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, not bad, not bad?

698
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: Who are they?

699
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: Miles Bridges, Aaron Wiggins, Jordan Poole, Brandon Miller, CJ McCollum.

700
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: Non All stars to take thirty or more shots in

701
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: the game this season?

702
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: One.

703
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, if you play for the Hornets, you're just

704
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: allowed to take thirty shots in the game. Occasionally. LaMelo

705
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: has done it, I think the most of anybody this season,

706
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: and then Brandon Miller and Miles Bridges needed it twice.

707
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: Wow.

708
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, so yeah, is that John Collins two of

709
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: eleven from unbelievable. I know, I know, Johnny there, that's crazy.

710
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Just back to the Bulls. I saw a note that

711
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: they had to take down the six championship banners to

712
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: get cleaned. They weren't up in the rafters last night

713
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: because they've been up there so long because they had

714
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: a concert on Saturday featuring Disturbed, Three Days Grace and

715
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: seven Dust.

716
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: Oh no, they got the sickness out of.

717
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: I guess there's a lot of pyrotechnics, a lot of

718
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: smoke and.

719
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: Dust.

720
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven Dust, And so they had to take them

721
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: down and they're cleaning them. They'll be back by Thursday,

722
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: don't you worry.

723
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: All right, that's great to know. Over the weekend, I

724
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: was stained down with the sickness on the tile, saying,

725
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: Miami Heat, they are struggling right now. It was unfortunately

726
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: infuriating watching Miles Bridges hit massive shot after massive shot

727
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter last night. But the Heat four

728
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: straight losses and they just keep blowing big leads. They

729
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: blew a seventeen point lead to lose to the Bulls

730
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: on Saturday. After the game, Tyler Hero said, if we

731
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: knew how to stop this, we would do it, not

732
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: really sure how to get over the hurdle right now,

733
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: but just continuing to stick with it. And then they

734
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: blew another seventeen point lead against the worst team. Yeah,

735
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty disappointing. The Heat this season or

736
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: twenty fifth and fourth quarter offense, their middle of the

737
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: pack defensively, but they're twenty sixth to the net rating.

738
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: They get killed on the glass, they turned the ball

739
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: over way too much, they play super slow, and then

740
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: they just can't overcome it with shooting. It came down

741
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: to a bam out of Bio taking a game winning

742
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: three from the top of the key and he missed.

743
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: Like the stream team last night on Playback with Say,

744
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: it was shoot a fan shooting for five hundred dollars

745
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: at halftime. It was that far off and it was

746
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: like that was your clutch time. Look, things have not

747
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: gone good for the Heat in the post Jimmy Butler era.

748
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: You know, since Andrew Wiggins has been traded there, he

749
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: hasn't really stepped up much. Last season it was hero

750
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: hitting a lot of big shots, and it just hasn't

751
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: quite been the same this season for the Heat. So

752
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: they are dropping dropping, drop down the standings. They're playing

753
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: just as bad as the Magic are right now, I think.

754
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the thing, the Magic and

755
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: the Heat. They're playing so so poorly. But they're still

756
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: gonna be in a play in tournament there in the

757
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. I can't imagine the raps nets or sixers

758
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: are catching them, so they'll be there. But man, the

759
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: Heat are nine and eighteen in their past twenty seven games,

760
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: and they've lost nine games after leading by at least

761
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: fifteen points.

762
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

763
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: And three of those have come in the last nine days.

764
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: Like you said, you mentioned a couple of those games.

765
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: So they keep getting up and getting these leads and

766
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: then they just blow them time after time.

767
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Atlanta Hawks are the team and the play

768
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: in to beat.

769
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 5: They look so good. They are the best team. No,

770
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: Trey Young yesterday had some worries about that lineup. Nah,

771
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 5: they're all good. Dyson Daniels bowling twenty five and Yakon

772
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 5: Kongu fifteen, Mogay fourteen. Off the bench, here comes George

773
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: and Yang and Terrence Man eighteen and nineteen. I've been

774
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: impressed with Zachary resa Chet. He also had twenty two

775
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 5: in this game, twenty two isshooting so well for three

776
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: point land this year. It's been surprising because he started

777
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: the year off poorly. A nineteen year old shot twenty three,

778
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 5: then thirty, then twenty nine the first three months, the

779
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: last two months forty four and forty four percent. You

780
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 5: don't see nineteen year olds. You don't see rookies get

781
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 5: better as the season goes on. So he's just been steady.

782
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 5: He's been steady to help out Treyon again, Treyon can

783
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: just chill and get healthy because they obviously need him

784
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: for a playoff series against the Boston Celtics, who they

785
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: are very good at. They somehow have beaten the bus

786
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 5: Celtics twice in each season. So he can go get

787
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 5: healthy because Orlando Miami they're probably not going to catch

788
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: him in all honesty, which is really weird to say,

789
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 5: because they're everybody's the nets.

790
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: The Hawks are below five hundred the Southeast Division. Yeah,

791
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: that is freaking weird. Wow, doesn't that happen again?

792
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: They understill three games the Yeah? Well wow, yeah, they're

793
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: leading the division? What are they thirty one and thirty

794
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: four something like that?

795
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: Yep, that's correct. Didn't that happen?

796
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: To hang out banner. Wow, that division championship banner. I

797
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: mean you don't have to put the record on it,

798
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, we don't have to say we won the division.

799
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: Get it cool.

800
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: The other games we didn't touch on aj Lawson. You

801
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: might drop a who on that who he played for

802
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: at least plays for the Raptors. Good old Canadian boy

803
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: came up the other day. Uh he had thirty two points. Okay,

804
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: it's silly season. Wraps won one nineteen one o four.

805
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: They beat the Wizards because they played a two sort

806
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: of game set here or for a very short time

807
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: at least. And then we had the Knicks crushing the Kings,

808
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: so they got their first win without jaellen Brunt and

809
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: they needed that. So that was good for the Knicks

810
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: there on that little road trip. And then with only

811
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: eight healthy players, the Mavericks beat the Spurs one thirty

812
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: three to one nine. They snapped a five game skid

813
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: as well. I think we got them all in there.

814
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: Too many games, especially too many weird ass games game

815
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: where you're looking at the lineups and going, who the

816
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: hell is that guy getting like actual quality minutes if

817
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: not starting in some cases or like some night John

818
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: Collins is shooting thirty times just in say, all right, well,

819
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: let's get from the games last night. Let's talk some

820
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: hypothetical trades. Because a lot of the talk over the

821
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: last week or so, and that will continue through the

822
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: next couple weeks and into the summer, is which teams

823
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: could be in the mix for Kevin Durant trading for

824
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: him this offseason. Again, it's a topic we've already discussed.

825
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: It's going to continue. I saw that ESPN they asked

826
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: four of their top analysts, Hey, propose a realistic Kevin

827
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: Durant trade. Chuck them out there, and then have Bobby

828
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: Marks decide on the winner. And I thought they did

829
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: such a great job with their proposed trades. I wanted

830
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: to throw them at you guys, throw them at the

831
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: viewers here and the listeners, and then we could grade

832
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: them basically, grade the hypothetical trade, you know, A plus

833
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: all the way down to F.

834
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: I guess.

835
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: So let's look at all these, discuss them, and I'll

836
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: ultimately throw a grade on them. All right, First one

837
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: from Chris Herring at ESPN, his Katie trade offer. He's

838
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: got Katie going to the Mavericks, all right, Kevin Durant

839
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: a Dallas Maverick. Sons get in return Klay Thompson, PJ Washington,

840
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Naji Marshall, Derek Lively the second and a twenty twenty

841
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: five first round pick. So why the MAVs would do this,

842
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 1: I'll give you a little bit of reasoning from the guys.

843
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: MAVs do it because they dealt the younger Luca for

844
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: a thirty one year old Anthony Davis. They made it

845
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: no secret that they view their window to win a

846
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: championship over the next few years, even though they were

847
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: just in the finals with Luca Dungeons. But that's sort

848
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: of maybe their thinking. So they continue to push all

849
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: their chips in.

850
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: Right.

851
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: You know, Wow, we got Kyrie when he comes back,

852
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: we got ad let's add Katie. Why the Sons would

853
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: do this pretty good hull. A lot of good players

854
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: get that draft pick that could be enough to convince

855
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: someone like Devin Booker that the franchise wants to remain competitive.

856
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: And again you get win now guys in Washington, Marshall,

857
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: Clay even a little bit. And then, probably most importantly,

858
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: Derek Lively is the big piece, the capable big who

859
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: can bring it on both sides of the floor. So

860
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: let's grade that trade MAV's sons Katie going to Dallas.

861
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: What do you think?

862
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 3: I'm a B plus on this one. I like this trade.

863
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: I think, spoiler, this is gonna.

864
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: Be my favorite trade.

865
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: Okay, of these fakes that we got going here, I

866
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: think it works for both teams. I don't necessarily agree

867
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: with the Mavericks viewpoint on things, but they've gone down

868
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: this path where they're built around older players in Kyrie

869
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: Irving and Anthony Davis. Kevin Durant's an older player, He's

870
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: not gonna want a super long contract. You could pretty

871
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: easily line him up with Anthony Davis, who has a

872
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: player option in the twenty twenty eight season, So twenty

873
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: seven to twenty eight. I think that would be reasonable

874
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 3: for Kevin Durant to sign like a two year deal

875
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: after his contract expires in the twenty sixth season. It

876
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: definitely upgrades the Mavericks talent level. They do basically become

877
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns.

878
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my conser, But.

879
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: What other chance do they have? It would be my

880
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: main question. I don't love giving up Derek Lively, but

881
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: they've got Anthony Davis now, who can play center. They've

882
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: got Gafford, who's a solid center as well. And from

883
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: the Sun's perspective, you're getting a draft pick this year,

884
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: even though they hate drafting. All these guys despise it,

885
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: but you're getting players who can play in PJ Washington,

886
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: Derek Lively, Nasie Marshall brings defensive acumen as well, and

887
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson still a shooter. Definitely Miscast right now is

888
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: the number one option in Dallas. But give him something

889
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 3: to play for, maybe good things happen. I kind of

890
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: like this from both sides.

891
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: Okay, b plus Professor Kirby greens It, what about you test?

892
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that MAVs do this in a heartbeat,

893
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: and I think the Suns do it too. It is weird.

894
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: The Dallas Mavericks have already shortened their window. This is

895
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 5: like the Brooklyn Nets with Kyrie and Durant and James Harden.

896
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 5: But now you've got Kyrie Durant and Anthony Davis and

897
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 5: they're just way older and in the West. Yeah, and

898
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 5: you could see it ending in a similar way. I

899
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 5: mean the Nets peak moment when they had those guys

900
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 5: was twenty twenty one. They went to the second round,

901
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 5: at game seven, Kyrie Irving unfortunately got hurt when he

902
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 5: stepped on the Aestet Combo's foot. They got to seven games,

903
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 5: Harden was just barely able to walk and play. I mean,

904
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 5: that sort of same thing could happen, and Durant's feed

905
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 5: haven't gotten any smaller, and so that shot didn't happen

906
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: in that game seven. It's very very similar. It could

907
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 5: end like that, and the MAVs are okay at giving

908
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 5: up a pick. I would say in this instance, they

909
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 5: do have other picks. They still have a lot of

910
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 5: their own. They have, okay, C's number one pick in

911
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 5: twenty twenty eight, they have the Spurs pick in twenty thirty.

912
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 5: So they go from Kyrie probably Max Christie starting with

913
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 5: Clay or PJ. Washington at the three ad and Lively

914
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 5: to Kyrie, Max Christy, Durant, Adan Gafford, you sound sexy, Kayla, Martin, Dinwiddie,

915
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 5: Exum and O Max probably coming off the bench. You

916
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 5: know it sounds good again, they've already started pushed their

917
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 5: chips in. You got to push all these fricking chips in.

918
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 5: I think that's what it comes down to. Although I

919
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 5: did see I'm not sure what Chris Herring, what he

920
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 5: was working with, what trade machine was working with. That

921
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: the Maps would have to send out some more money

922
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: here to get it actually proper and actually happened because

923
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 5: Dallas is hard keppt, so they have to sense out

924
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 5: something like five point six mil.

925
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: They'd get it done, I guess because they're going for it.

926
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: And they shortened this window.

927
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: And what about the torn ACL on Kyrie Irving. That's

928
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: an issue here, like how much time is this guy

929
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna miss?

930
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: Like people recover from acls these days. Yes, it's amazing,

931
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: it's true.

932
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they still have to play next season. He's

933
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: still out next season regardless. It probably a better team

934
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: kind of than Durant and Anthony Davis than Max Christy

935
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 3: and Anthony Davis.

936
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're a.

937
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: B plus ser something like that. Okay, I'm sure you.

938
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: Guys didn't mind.

939
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 5: I think I think Carrier I rings already. It's it's

940
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: super early, but they've already said that he could be

941
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 5: back for next season, which is wild. They will see

942
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: what the doctors say.

943
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: But yes, okay, next one here from Zach Cram his

944
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: Katie trade offer. He's got Katie one of the Rockets

945
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: obviously a popular potential destination. Sons get Dylan Brooks, Reed Shepherd,

946
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Cam Whitmore, Jack Landell, and then the twenty twenty five

947
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty seven first round picks by the way

948
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: of Phoenix. That twenty five first would be conveyed after

949
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: the May draft lottery, so tasks the Rockets would do this,

950
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: according to Zach because they're just a natural trade partner

951
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: for the Suns for two main reasons. One, Durant slots

952
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: neatly into Houston's largest hole. They really do lack a

953
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: go to scorer, and you're basically adding one of the

954
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: best of all time and KD. And then secondly, the

955
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: Rockets control Phoenix's draft picks in twenty five, twenty seven

956
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: to twenty nine, which the Sons had initially sent to

957
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: Brooklyn when they traded for Durant, So you're sort of

958
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: getting some of those back. Why do the Suns do this, Well,

959
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: they get those picks, they get their own picks back.

960
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: That would be helpful, and you get some useful players

961
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: and Brooks and young guys with a lot more upside

962
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: than any of Phoenix's young guys in Shepherd and Whitmore,

963
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: grade that trade Katie to the Rockets.

964
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: The Houston Rockets, it's tough for me. Kevin Durant obviously

965
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: would help them out, there's no doubt.

966
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: But I think it's pushing in for it a little too.

967
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: Early to me.

968
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 5: I don't think this makes them a championship team the

969
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 5: next few years. I think you wait a little bit more.

970
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 5: This team that they'd go forward with would be Fred

971
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: van Vliet if they keep him around, Jalen Green, Kevin Durant,

972
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 5: Jabari Smith, and then Shangun I'm and Thompson. It's freaking good.

973
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's championship team. I think I

974
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 5: would wait. It's tough to say because you are giving

975
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 5: up Reed Shepherd and Cam would win more. Are the

976
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 5: main parts My trade machines say they would have to

977
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: throw somebody else in, and that would be Tarry Easton.

978
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 5: The numbers work perfectly, who's been very very good, plus

979
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 5: two first round picks. I think it's just pushing in

980
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 5: a little too early for me. I'd go the okay

981
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: see route and just waited a little bit longer.

982
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: That's what I would say.

983
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant's Kevin Durant is he is that guy that

984
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 5: could send a team over and put them right to

985
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: the goal line.

986
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's this Rockets.

987
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I'm fascinated but fascinated about with

988
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: the Rockets is would they be more likely to do

989
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: something like this like and Kevin Durant trade if they

990
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: were to lose in five games in the first round

991
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: or just come short of like making a conference finals

992
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: or even a finals, like they had a magical run,

993
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: and it like they're really really close, and it's like,

994
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know which one where you're more likely to

995
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: do a potential trade like this for a guy like

996
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: Katie's stature, an early flame out, or like, holy crap,

997
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: we're close. Maybe he's the guy that gets us over

998
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: the edge.

999
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're taking probably the latter, I

1000
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: think so too, Yeah, yeah, because I mean, look what okay,

1001
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: see he did. Last year they lost. I don't know

1002
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 3: if it was a disappointing season. They were the number

1003
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: one seed, they lost in the second round. Most other

1004
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: teams are like, that's a disappointment, but it was their

1005
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 3: first real go around in the playoffs, and they tinkered

1006
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: around the edges, right. They had Hartenstein because they needed rebounding.

1007
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: They added Caruso because they needed more perimeter defense in

1008
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: three point shooting. So like tas is saying, they played

1009
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: it slow, look at where they are now, favorites in

1010
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: the Western Conference. That's what the Rockets should do. I

1011
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 3: think Kevin Durant gets them closer to a championship. I

1012
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: don't know who the Rockets are eyeballing out there. Who's

1013
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: going to improve their team more than Kevin Durant. The

1014
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: question for me would be what would the Suns? Why

1015
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 3: would they do this? Because what are they going to

1016
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 3: do with their picks? Are they going to tank? I

1017
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: don't think so. Are they going to use them in trades? Maybebe?

1018
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1019
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1020
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: This one's a b to me though, because I think

1021
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: Reed Shepherd is good. I don't know if necessarily know

1022
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: if he's a game changer. Cam went more just a piece.

1023
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks helpful, and the picks are going to be okay,

1024
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: like you're keeping your picks. The only way they get

1025
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: good is if you decide to be terrible. And that

1026
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like Matt it should be his style. I'll

1027
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: give it a bee.

1028
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bobby Lurks really liked this one because he thought

1029
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: it checked for the Suns at least a lot of

1030
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: things they would hope to accomplish in training Kevin Durant,

1031
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: draft picks, obviously getting those back depending on what you

1032
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: do with them in the future. Controllable contracts players who

1033
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: can help now, which you are getting some, and then

1034
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: financial flexibility would also have them as well. So Bobby

1035
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: Marks was high on this one, but I think it

1036
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: really does depend on what happens with Houston here in

1037
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: the postseason and how good or poorly they look.

1038
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: All right.

1039
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Next one, Andre Snelling's Katie trade offer Durant to the Knicks.

1040
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: They're always big game hunting. Knicks get Kevin Durant, Sons

1041
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: get og Anobi and Mitchell Robinson. That's what Snelling's had here.

1042
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: Knicks would do this because you know they probably ask

1043
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: a little too much from Jalen Brunson at times to

1044
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: carry the offensive load. So Katie helps fix that. You'd

1045
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: have a great offensive foundation and upside looks pretty tremendous.

1046
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: Sons would do this because you get a twenty seven

1047
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: year old in oj A Nanobi on a similar career

1048
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: timeline with Booker that sort of helps and they need

1049
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: more size and muscle in the middle, and when Robinson

1050
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: is healthy, he's one of the best defensive rebounders in

1051
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: the league. That's the thinking here.

1052
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: How do you agree it, Trey shout out to Kendrick Lamar,

1053
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: it's not enough. I don't think the Sun should pay

1054
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 3: o Jana Noble four more years after this of forty

1055
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: million dollars doesn't really change the calculus for me from

1056
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: Phoenix's point of view. So I'd rather have Kevin Durant

1057
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: unhappy and then you're off his contract after next season.

1058
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: I would prefer that. Mitchell Robinson doesn't really factor into

1059
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: this for me. Like he's fine when he plays. He's

1060
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: a good guy. There's a lot of good centers out there,

1061
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 3: but it is intriguing to see Kevin Durant on the Knicks.

1062
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: Of course, everybody's wanted to see that. Yeah, se Minus,

1063
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: that's why it's in there.

1064
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: It's an ESPN article afect exactly right, and for sure

1065
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: that's how they tweaked the headline. You know it led

1066
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: with Kadi to the Knicks question mark and other potential

1067
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: KD trades.

1068
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why this one is just hammered in the middle.

1069
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 5: Here up front, we led with a good one. I

1070
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: think that that Phoenix Dallas one, that's a sexy one.

1071
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 5: That's a sexy one that sort of makes sense. This one,

1072
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 5: this doesn't really change anything for the New York Nicks

1073
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 5: to me. Obviously, it's Kevin Durant and he can score

1074
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 5: the ball.

1075
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: They kind of need Mitchie, they need that muscle that

1076
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: you said in the middle, and he helps in a

1077
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: weird way. I know he doesn't play a lot and

1078
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: that's a freaking problem, but yesterday he was a.

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00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 5: Plus twenty six for the New York Knicks when he

1080
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 5: played out there. He's helpful. It's an incredible offense already.

1081
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 5: I mean, they were in top one, top two for

1082
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 5: a long time. They're so damn good. They need a

1083
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 5: different mentality defensively, and although Kevin Durant was a great

1084
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 5: defender on those Golden State Wards championship teams, he ain't

1085
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 5: changing that for the New York neckt they need to

1086
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 5: change that side of the ball more importantly. So I'm

1087
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 5: looking at it from a Tom Tibbs point of view,

1088
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 5: what are we going to do here? They're just gonna

1089
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 5: get beat again, and if somebody can come out and

1090
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: I don't know, make mckel bridge is a better player,

1091
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 5: that would be more helpful, I think, I mean just

1092
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 5: they need something different and so this one doesn't really

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00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 5: do it for me.

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00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: So you're low on this one.

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00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a d I don't like it.

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00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fun, it's fun for the seos. It's going

1097
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 5: to get some clicks, but other than that, not so much.

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00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: Okay. Final one then from the Machine Kevin Pelton his

1099
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: Katie trade offer. It's a three way. He get Kevin Durant,

1100
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: Sons get Nikola Jovich Andrew Wiggins, twenty twenty five first

1101
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: round pick by way of the Warriors, a twenty thirty

1102
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: first round pick by way of Miami, and then a

1103
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: twenty six second round pick from the Lakers and the Nets.

1104
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: They're the third team in this. To make all the

1105
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: numbers work, they get Duncan Robinson, Keishad Johnson, a twenty

1106
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: nine first round swap, top four protected at twenty three

1107
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: sorry excuse me, a twenty and thirty one first round swap,

1108
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: also top four protected, and then a second round pick

1109
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: away in the future as well. Pelton rights Miami doesn't

1110
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: have premium draft picks or young prospects. To offer and

1111
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 1: must send out more salary than Durant's fifty three point

1112
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: three million for twenty five twenty six to avoid a

1113
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: hard cap at the lower luxury tax apron, necessitating sending

1114
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: some of the pick value to the Nets to take

1115
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson's basically twenty million dollars salary in the cap space,

1116
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: but his thinking the Sons would do this cuts a

1117
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: lot of money from their payroll. Get some forward depth

1118
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: there in Wiggins and Yovich and the Sons get up,

1119
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, get these first round picks by way of

1120
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: the Warriors, and then the heat there in the future.

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00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: Who wants to grade this one?

1122
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: First?

1123
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this? Three way?

1124
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 5: I don't feel so good about it. From the Phoenix

1125
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: Suns perspective, they're not getting enough back. From the player perspective,

1126
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 5: Wiggins needs to be on a damn good team to

1127
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 5: be a huge factor. Yovic, I'm not so sure what

1128
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 5: he's going to be exactly. And then these first round

1129
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 5: picks ain't that sexy either. I don't think it's enough

1130
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 5: for Kevin Drant so I'm not not high on it.

1131
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: Okay, period, that's coming from one of the biggest Andrew

1132
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: Wiggins fans, I know, yeah.

1133
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you gotta be a little realistic here. I

1134
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 5: liked him on the Warriors. He was very good there.

1135
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about a much on the Eat up.

1136
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: What a shock? Okay, what do you think you low

1137
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: on this one as well?

1138
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 3: I mean, they got to be confident that the twenty

1139
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: thirty first round pick from Miami is going to be

1140
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: a jewel, because that's really the best asset they would

1141
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: be getting in this draft, along with some salary recap relief.

1142
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: Because I'm with you, Wiggins. Maybe he helps, but he's

1143
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: got a year and a player option, so you're out

1144
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: of his deal pretty quickly. I think that's good. The

1145
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: Warriors first rounder this season isn't going to be all

1146
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: that juicy, Probably more of a trade pick for the

1147
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 3: Suns at that point. But I don't think they're thinking

1148
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: in twenty thirty terms, So this one is a B

1149
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 3: minus for me. The heat I guess that's interesting. They

1150
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: need somebody who can do something in the fourth quarters.

1151
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, that it makes more sense for them.

1152
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not getting Amaton, yes, yeah, but they love

1153
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: to trade a pickway down the line. They're like, we'll

1154
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 3: get a free agent by that. Yeah, well they haven't really,

1155
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: but that's what I think.

1156
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: But they'll just keep selling us on that for sure. Okay.

1157
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: So there they are the four trades from ESPN and

1158
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: all their analysts. There again, Bobby Marks did like the

1159
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: Rockets one the most. He thought that made the most

1160
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: sense in terms of what the Suns get back and

1161
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: maybe Kevin Durant taking the Rockets to the next level.

1162
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: But let's hear from you in the stream team and

1163
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: obviously in the comments, and maybe you got a better one.

1164
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: Drop your Katie trade ideas in the comments below. Okay,

1165
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: pick them tasks another win for a majority of us,

1166
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: fortunately not you. You took okay, see to cover again

1167
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: and Denver straight up money lined them.

1168
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a fourth quarter that was? Well tonight. I

1169
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: made this pick because I need a win.

1170
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: I'm two and four, so I picked Bucks versus the

1171
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 5: Pacers because I wanted to pick the Bucks and I'm

1172
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 5: first into that dock. So bang, bang, here it is,

1173
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 5: and Skeets, you're you're the Pacers line, I guess.

1174
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you guess it was last into the docks

1175
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: this morning?

1176
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we have this rule that all four of

1177
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 5: us can't pick the same one. So unfortunately, I'm not

1178
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 5: making up a game on the two teams that are

1179
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 5: closest to t Unfortunately, early days here in March.

1180
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: Shocked and then I was so a little upset. I

1181
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm rolling right now in the month

1182
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: of March. I got a great record, and then I look,

1183
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: everybody's taking Milwaukie. I am forced to take Indy. That's fine,

1184
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: those are the rules. But I really do not believe

1185
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: Indiana's going to cover tonight. They have not good, No,

1186
00:52:59,440 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: they haven't.

1187
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 3: But they've played the Bucks well in the past couple

1188
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 3: of seasons.

1189
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: Eh, there is that there is that could be another

1190
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: potential playoff matchup between these two teams two and a

1191
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: four or five. So I don't know. But then again,

1192
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: you swear sometimes it works. So I got Pacers, I

1193
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: got some points to play with.

1194
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus two and a half at home. You never know.

1195
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, they pay each other twice in the next four days.

1196
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh well, I guess that's five days.

1197
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 5: They play On the eleventh, they play in the fifteenth box,

1198
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 5: beating twice this year.

1199
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: Okay, revenge, let's go Pacers. Yeah, all right, that's tonight.

1200
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Not a lot of games on at all because we

1201
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: had a million on last night. There's four games on

1202
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: the light one yeah, and they're they're not that sexy.

1203
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: So hey, you got a question for us, maybe we'll

1204
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: hit the beach tomorrow or Thursday. Send in your questions

1205
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: to no Dunks at the Athletic dot Com, tweet them

1206
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: in at No Dunks, Inc. Or drop them in the

1207
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: YouTube comments.

1208
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 3: And I would say, if you're a Bucks or a

1209
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: Pacers fan, definitely tune into the show tomorrow. We'll be

1210
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: likely talking about definitely the feature game of the it's

1211
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 3: just another three are winning team versus losing team?

1212
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: Is this TNT tonight? Yeah?

1213
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I considered it a MAX game myself.

1214
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: Oh me, I'm a.

1215
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: True TV guy. Okay, So we got left co on today.

1216
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: That's great. Wow, Nets, Calves, Wizards, Pistons, Clippers, Pelicans, and

1217
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: then this one.

1218
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: Hey, man, Zion's hooping, Zion's playing. Well.

1219
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: That is a rough, rough schedule though, you're right. Anyway,

1220
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: we'll be here. Yep, we'll be doing thirty minutes son

1221
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: the tomorrow.

1222
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: That's right. Bring your corn, bring your cheese, curts.

1223
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: Appreciate you joining us here. Hit the leg bun subscribe,

1224
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews until tomorrow. Clipper Bros.

1225
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: You heard it here first.

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00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 3: Have a great time, turn up.

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00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome, Thanks for joining us, and remember

1228
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: nets Calves. This is going to be a close game

1229
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: at the end. Book it.

1230
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: He's probably right.

1231
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Poole.

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Speaker 1: Made me a dollar today.

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Speaker 3: Sounds nice.

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Speaker 1: Man, Respect, respect, deprice of their people.