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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Saver production of iHeartRadio, I'm any Ratio.

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Speaker 2: And I'm mourn bogle bam, And today we have a

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Speaker 2: SAVER short, a snack perhaps for you, combining two of

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Speaker 2: our favorite things, fresh tomatoes and space shenanigans.

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Speaker 1: Oh already, so great, so fantastic, And I love how

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't put the two together necessarily.

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Speaker 2: No, but it turns out that there was a tomato

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Speaker 2: scandal on board the International Space Station.

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Speaker 1: Indeed there was, and it is quite a delight. I

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Speaker 1: maintain it would be an excellent movie or mini series.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yes, but these are definitely two of

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Speaker 1: our favorite things. And we've been meaning to talk about

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Speaker 1: it for a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that you had alerted me to

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Speaker 2: this whole situation and I was like, oh, yes, we

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Speaker 2: are doing a mini episode about that, and then we

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Speaker 2: just haven't gotten around to it, but we're doing it now,

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Speaker 2: so huzzah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and as we record, it is Fresh Tomato season.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: M h And yeah, speaking of we have done episodes

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Speaker 1: related to this. We have done tomatoes.

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Speaker 2: Space food in general. We did a short on sparkling

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Speaker 2: wine in space that you can see we can.

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Speaker 1: Get up to a lot of stuff for it.

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Speaker 2: We're big nerds, as it turns out.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, as it turns out we are.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I would love for it if you could break this

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Speaker 1: down for us, Lauren, what happened to you? Okay?

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, there was indeed something of a

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Speaker 2: scandal aboard the International Space Station or ISS. Researchers are

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Speaker 2: running a number of experiments there around around growing fresh

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Speaker 2: produce in space, and in the process of one of them,

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Speaker 2: two tomatoes just up and vanished. A mystery was afoot,

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Speaker 2: and did one of the illustrious astronauts of the ISS

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Speaker 2: illicitly ingest the incipient fruit?

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Speaker 1: WHOA, I'm hooked already, as were a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I remember when this was happening. Everyone was like, what

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Speaker 1: happened to the tomato? All right?

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Speaker 2: So let's go a little bit further back than that.

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Speaker 2: So food is important for humans, right, you know, nutritionally

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Speaker 2: and psychologically. This is sort of why we do this podcast,

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Speaker 2: and so ever since we've been sending people into space,

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Speaker 2: we've been trying to figure out how to feed them there.

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Speaker 2: Traditionally that's involved a lot of like highly processed foods

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Speaker 2: that will behave well in near zero gravity, things in

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Speaker 2: tubes that won't go bad quickly or get crumbs, and

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Speaker 2: the machinery, things that will keep you alive, but that

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Speaker 2: probably will not set your heart or your taste buds

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Speaker 2: are rasin. And part of the problem here is that

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Speaker 2: even with our modern innovations and like the preservation and

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Speaker 2: reheating of more interesting foods, many of those innovations having

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Speaker 2: been made because of space programs, there's just nothing like

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Speaker 2: fresh produce. You know, the textures and the flavors are different,

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Speaker 2: and if you're off Earth for an extended period of time,

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Speaker 2: you're probably going to miss that. Also, it monetarily behooves

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Speaker 2: the heck out of us to be able to grow

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Speaker 2: food in space. Like, no matter what we do with

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Speaker 2: space exploration in the future, if we have humans out there,

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Speaker 2: they're probably going to need to be able to grow

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Speaker 2: their own food because shipping stuff into space is expensive

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Speaker 2: and nutrients do degrade over long periods of time. Also,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's just like nice to grow plants, you know,

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Speaker 2: like gardening is nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm really jealous of all my friends who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you can work on your windowsill garden.

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Speaker 1: The ants they destroyed, they decimated my herbs.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there are solutions here, but that's a different.

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Speaker 2: We're in space. We're in space today. Okay, okay, but

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Speaker 2: we'll work on that later, all right. So, starting in

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, NASA has been working on growing edible plants

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Speaker 2: in space with what's called the Vegetable Production System or

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Speaker 2: VEGGIE for short, and VEGGIE is a low power plant

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Speaker 2: The original setup involved planting seeds in these pillows containing

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Speaker 2: The first craft they tried was red Romain lettuce. By

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Speaker 2: Exposed Root on Orbit Test System or x ROOTS. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and this is a system meant for growing plants without

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Speaker 2: a growth medium, either hydroponically and or aeroponically. We'll have

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Speaker 2: to do episodes on those two systems of growing things

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Speaker 2: than we've been feeling lately. Basically, like, just because it's

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Speaker 2: x ROOTS system to work, growing on an expanded set

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Speaker 2: of the astronauts on board, Frank Rubio, harvested the last

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Speaker 2: Only twelve tomatoes grew to actual ripeness. There were fungal

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Speaker 2: Rubio says that when he harvested these these final two

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Speaker 2: Did someone steal the tomatoes? Did it? Was Rubio lying,

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Speaker 2: had he eat eat the tomatoes. He got like a

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Speaker 2: were like, yeah, sure, Frank, the tomatoes just floated away.

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Speaker 2: You totally didn't eat the tomatoes A likely story, And

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Speaker 2: after a total of three hundred and seventy one days

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Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty three, with the mystery still unsolved.

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Speaker 2: He apparently he apparently spent some eighteen to twenty hours

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Speaker 1: This was a story, all people drawing accusations, and he's

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Speaker 1: having to deal with that. He's trying to find the tomatoes.

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Speaker 1: Clear his name.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a closed space station mystery, you know,

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Speaker 2: like where could the tomatoes have gone to?

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Speaker 1: But it was also it's also really funny, like hearing

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Speaker 1: as you said, it was generally very good natured, but

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Speaker 1: him wanting to exonerate himself, Yeah, to be like no.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I did not eat the tomatoes, but

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Speaker 2: he couldn't find the heck and tomatoes. It's, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: one ziploc bag of two tomatoes.

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Speaker 2: eventually restored in early December of twenty twenty three. His

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Speaker 2: Harmony module. Harmony is the connecting module of the ISS.

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Speaker 2: The hatch is the one that allows visiting spacecraft to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really really funny because this did catch

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Speaker 1: day they'll find ten years from now dessicated tomatoes and

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Speaker 1: again jokingly, I think some people were like, show us

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Speaker 1: it's a cover up, and but very funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tomato Gate. You know, they did eventually send photos

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Speaker 2: the tomato mystery has been solved.

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Speaker 1: You, I was lying awake at night thinking who absconded

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Speaker 2: It's a more intricate cover up than we even thought.

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Speaker 2: That's true, Lauren, that's what if these are false tomatoes.

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Speaker 1: Planted. The plants were planted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they didn't look very red to

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Speaker 1: I honestly, it was such like a fun back and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the headlines were beautiful. I mean everyone, yes,

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Speaker 2: every one had good puns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like Houston we don't have the tomato.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ground control to missing tom Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: A good one. There's really good. I recommend it. Look up, yeah, oracles,

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Speaker 1: look up. The videos The videos are great. Yes, Frank

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Speaker 1: Rubio sounds like a real good sport. And I'm glad

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Speaker 1: his name was cleared all this.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, but this is this is not the end of

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Speaker 3: tomatoes on the space station end of this current drama

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Speaker 3: perhaps perhaps.

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Speaker 2: Unless other details come to light. But but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: know more experiments with tomatoes are being planned for the future.

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Speaker 1: Really cool stuff.

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Speaker 2: We will have to, as we said in the Space

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Speaker 2: Bubbly episode, we will have to do uh space food update,

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Speaker 2: because there's all kinds of cool stuff happening up there.

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Speaker 1: You're right, we do a lot of stuff around space

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Speaker 2: Yep, and it's interesting and we get you know, as

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Speaker 2: we said in our original Space Food episode, like a

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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of innovations in food in general

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Speaker 1: So that's true. That's true. Oh, I'm excited. I love

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Speaker 1: I love what's going on food and space. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also, furthermore, if if you or someone you know has

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Speaker 2: is in school, your classroom can participate in space tomato research.

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Speaker 2: There's a program called Tomato Sphere where students in the

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Speaker 2: US and Canada can help scientists by like planting tomato

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Speaker 2: seeds that have gone up to space, plant them blindly

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Speaker 2: grades K through eight. So yeah, google tomatoes fear for more.

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Speaker 2: They are currently as of this dropping in early August

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Speaker 2: fall twenty twenty four in spring twenty twenty five class seasons.

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Speaker 1: So that sounds so cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, grow tomatoes for science.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would love that now, but now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That, oh yeah, oh.

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Speaker 1: Please let us know if you participated in anything like this.

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Speaker 2: Oh please, If you are just growing some tomatoes that

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Speaker 2: you're excited about, send us photos and flavor profiles. Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, yes, make me jealous of tomatoes.

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Speaker 1: They're so good tomatoes, Oh my gosh. If you have

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