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Speaker 2: That is right FNA on FSR Fox Football Saturday. It

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Speaker 2: is Kevin Figures Adam Alsen with you guys. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for joining us as you do every single week. Hit

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Speaker 2: us up on x at KFIG one is where you

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Speaker 2: can find me, Adam. They can find you at follow

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Speaker 2: Adam A What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Possibly at fna's show as well on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio Network. We have a good show for you this week.

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Speaker 3: I know that's mind blowing stuff coming from us.

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Speaker 4: As opposed to the crappy shows we usually put on.

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Speaker 3: Of course, once in a while we got a stinker,

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Speaker 3: but it's been years and that's not going to happen

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Speaker 3: tonight because coming up later in this second hour, Greg

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Speaker 3: co Sale's gonna join us, also a Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Fame, one of my favorites.

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Speaker 3: I love Greg NFL films on with Colin Cowherd all

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Speaker 3: the time. Honestly, I don't know how we got him.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I actually have to give credit to

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Speaker 3: Brewbery here, and that's not easy for me to do.

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Speaker 3: But great co Sale's a great get for us, and

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Speaker 3: he's gonna help us break down what is it we

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Speaker 3: fifteen of the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, friends in high places with Brie. I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, Bree's well connected in the industry, so I'm

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Speaker 2: not the least bit surprised.

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Speaker 3: We got friends in places something.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So it's a Greg Cosel this week and then

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady next week is what I'm expecting their Brie.

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Speaker 3: Oh for real, Okay, I'm good with that. Actually, I

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Speaker 3: think Tom Brady's been much better this season as an analyst.

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Speaker 2: He really has improved.

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Speaker 3: He's improved in every way. I honestly think he is

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Speaker 3: kissing being elite all like. He's right there. He's right there,

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Speaker 3: he'll be there by next year.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he's fairly polarizing for some people who

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Speaker 2: think he might be overrated or whatever. One thing you

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Speaker 2: can never take away from Tom Brady is that he

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Speaker 2: was a hell of a hard worker. Anybody who's ever

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Speaker 2: around him knew that he was dedicated to his craft

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Speaker 2: and he was gonna be dedicated to being the best

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Speaker 2: analyst he could. So last year a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a struggle. This year leaps and bounds. To be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, it's been.

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Speaker 3: Remarkable, Okay, But I can take away four rings in

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Speaker 3: just four plays with him, Malcolm Butler, d Ford, Robert

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Speaker 3: Alford in the There's four Rings Gone, just like that,

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Speaker 3: plays that were outside of his control. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: a hater. That's not me.

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Speaker 2: No, not in the least pit. That's not necessarily how

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Speaker 2: sports and professional football works either. Sometimes you need a

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Speaker 2: few breaks if you're gonna win that often you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a couple of breaks go your way every now

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Speaker 2: and then too.

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Speaker 3: So Kevin, what else do we got coming up later?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Well, of course we have two on two off to

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Speaker 2: finish the show, our weekly picks. We also have the

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Speaker 2: NFL six Pack, like we do every single solitary week,

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Speaker 2: so plenty of stuff to get into there. I believe

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Speaker 2: we have a Stranger than fiction coming up at the

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Speaker 2: end of this hour as well.

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Speaker 3: Well, I believe you're wrong, Kevin House.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm never wrong. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: Now? This might be on Brie Now I'm throwing her

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Speaker 3: back under the bus here. No, she put it right.

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Speaker 3: It's geek news.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I am wrong.

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Speaker 3: Here's a hint. There's a new video game movie that's

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Speaker 3: an old video game movie that released a teaser this week.

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Speaker 3: That's my teas and here's the sound.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, see when I said, oh my god out loud,

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Speaker 2: that's what I assumed it might be.

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Speaker 4: Why why are we doing this again?

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Speaker 3: Look? We reviewed what was it? Anaconda? And that's the

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Speaker 3: comedy that's coming out this Christmas that nobody asks for.

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Speaker 3: And it's really weird that it's coming out on Christmas. Snakes,

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Speaker 3: Why don't we start with a little first off here, though, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: let's do it.

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Speaker 2: There's time that's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Uh, oh, it's back.

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Speaker 1: What are the headlines on the announcement of starting quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Excuse me? What are the headlines on the starting quarterbacks? Ah?

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Speaker 3: What do you want to start with? Which starter?

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Speaker 2: Well? The problem is I don't really know who's going

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Speaker 2: but all signs are kind of pointing into the direction

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Speaker 6: Is he though, Is he really ready for what's coming? Well,

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Speaker 6: say he looked like he put on a couple of

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Speaker 3: I think we actually can hear from Philip Rivers defending

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Speaker 3: his weight as any of us would. I mean, nobody

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you're a girl or a guy. Nowadays,

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Speaker 3: come on, that's personal stuff. You remember when we were

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Speaker 3: we scrapped that idea.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because knew we end up just feeling guilty

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Speaker 3: Our six hundred pound Monday show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why I subject ourselves to that, so the listeners

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Speaker 3: Well, they were trying to make fun of Philip Rivers

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Speaker 3: at his reintroductory press conference, asking him about his weight. Here,

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Speaker 7: What do you playing right now?

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Speaker 1: Right this second? I'm not sure? Right?

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Speaker 5: How about that?

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Speaker 1: That's an honest answer, and I will answer your question

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Speaker 1: a little better. On the plane weight, Greg not not

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Speaker 8: But but then I'll follow that up with I ain't

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Speaker 8: never ran away from anybody anyway. So so I'm they

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Speaker 8: you know, people say, well, they're gonna know you're gonna

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Speaker 2: So okay, I haven't had a chance to get a

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Speaker 2: see exactly what is uh what he's tipping the scales at.

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Speaker 3: Well, those things are always accurate, Oh of.

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Speaker 2: Course, one hundred percent accurate. Well, look if they come

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Speaker 2: in and say that Philip Rivers is like, you know

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Speaker 2: two fifteen, I'm like.

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Speaker 4: Let's be real.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to know what old Google Gemini AI

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Speaker 2: Quiz hot shot?

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Speaker 3: Well you just said two fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm trying to think of what his initial

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, he's a big enow. Yeah, he's a good

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that Jem and I is gonna talk about

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Speaker 3: I can't confirm whether or not that's the weight they're using,

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Speaker 3: two twenty all right, I'll pretty much give it to you.

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Speaker 3: It is to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Eight here total ownership, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You own that. One to twenty eight is what they say.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I saw his face, and I know carb face when

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Speaker 3: I see it, and I know a guy who's been

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Speaker 3: eating good this holiday season when I see it. That's

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Speaker 3: that's looking like two forty five to me, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like two forty two is kind

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Speaker 4: Of all due respect to Philip Rivers, how could you

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Speaker 4: not see it and look? As a fan? Ask myself,

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Speaker 4: I can I can talk. I can say this these things.

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Speaker 3: I know we all are a little chunky during the holidays,

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Speaker 4: Adams pretty spelt over there.

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Speaker 3: Well, I did get on the exercise bike twice today,

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Speaker 3: and yet I'm still probably not at a calorie deficit

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Speaker 2: But I tell you find balance in the force. There, Adam,

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Speaker 2: two times on the on the elliptical machine or the bike,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't I just have more self control and

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Speaker 3: just not eat the ice cream so I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: Because that's no fun. Who the hell wants to do that?

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Speaker 3: I'm better in this. I can't do better in them.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you're not.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're one of us.

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Speaker 2: One of us.

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Speaker 3: Am I one of phil philip Rivers. Two of my

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Speaker 3: two or three Philip Rivers is right now that.

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Speaker 4: Wants to be a half a Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 2: If somebody calls me to come in off the street

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Speaker 2: and play quarterback in the NFL after not playing for

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Speaker 2: five years, get to cash that check.

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Speaker 3: Until you take that first hit, Kevin, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. They're playing Seattle right in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: One of the best defenses in the NFL, which still

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Speaker 2: kind of gets overlooked to a certain degree.

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Speaker 4: As hard as that might be.

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Speaker 2: In today's NFL, we know it's more of ans a

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Speaker 2: national game, and you see everything you see.

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnald's had a bit of a resurgence this season.

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Speaker 2: Still, for whatever reason, I feel like Seattle's flying under

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Speaker 2: the radar as one of the better teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think they can make the super Bowl as long

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Speaker 3: as Sam Darnald performs on the big stage. That's the

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Speaker 3: only thing missing right now. He hasn't had many chances. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we've discussed this. He went seven years without playing in

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Speaker 3: a big game after being on the Jets and the Panthers,

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Speaker 3: and then he got to Minnesota finally, And yes he

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Speaker 3: but you gotta get more opportunities out there.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 2: Look, the biggest game he had this season was against

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and look, he may he's lost a

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Speaker 3: Are you caping for Cam Newton because he's done plenty

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Speaker 2: No, no, please, By the way, do we have sound

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Speaker 3: I think we do. He's been doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: He's retired.

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Speaker 3: You ain't even retired.

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Speaker 10: was in a family. He's forty four years old. Brot

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Speaker 1: They don't want a circus.

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Speaker 3: Why he sounding more like Chris Tucker there. I thought

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Speaker 2: Sounded let the spirit of truth there for a SoundBite

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Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like to me as I tried

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Speaker 2: Due respect to your book, to your former Carolina Panther,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't jump on that fumble.

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Speaker 2: It's not as if his last couple of years were

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Speaker 3: He came back at one point.

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Speaker 3: I remember Julius Pepper's coming back that was welcomed. Cam

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they should go out and sign,

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Speaker 2: And with all due respect for a guy we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: you draw a lot of attention to yourself for a

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Speaker 3: Well, he may be eight years younger, but he obviously

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Speaker 2: he can be, especially when you're getting your sea legs

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Speaker 3: The problem is from the neck up. That's still like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first year labor. You could be in the Hall

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially as a quarterback who relies on his athleticism.

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Speaker 2: So it's really unfortunate to see a guy who'd been

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Speaker 3: Because I can't help myself. I don't know why I

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Speaker 3: keep coming up with these NBA analogies whenever something like

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Speaker 3: An on Fox Boards Radio. It's a little bit like

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Speaker 3: a little bit like DeMarcus Cousins. We got about a

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Speaker 3: month of a flash of just how good he could

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Speaker 3: be next to Anthony Davis in New Orleans, and then

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Speaker 3: he tore his achilles, right, I mean they were on

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Speaker 3: a tear before he unfortunately tore his achilles. They I

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Speaker 3: think they had won like eleven or fourteen or something

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Speaker 3: like that, and we never got to see that player again.

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Speaker 3: Now that's basketball. You got to use more of your

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Speaker 3: athleticism out there. But as you mentioned, Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 3: somebody that can navigate the pocket very well and roll out.

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Speaker 3: So I hope he can recover boom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly hope for the best for him that

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, well, the other end of the spectrum,

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Speaker 3: a young quarterback who's considering retirement. It feels like from

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Speaker 3: the statement that he just made the other day, also shocking.

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Speaker 2: It is FNA on FSR coming up next hour we

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Speaker 2: going on as far as who's performing and who's not.

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Speaker 4: But as far as the quarterbacks go.

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Speaker 2: Last segment there, Adam, we talked about Philip Rivers, at

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Speaker 2: the age of forty four, looking likely to make his

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Speaker 2: first start since twenty twenty back with Indianapolis coach despite

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Speaker 2: being there for a little bit less than a week.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about a guy who has been in

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Speaker 2: the league for the last actually five years now that

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Speaker 2: I think of it, I think that was his rookie

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Speaker 2: season with the Cincinnati Bengals, will be Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: And this guy's looking good. He hasn't gained a pound

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Speaker 3: since he's been out with injury for what six weeks

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Speaker 3: or whatever it was before he came back and beat

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Speaker 3: the Ravens on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing about Joe Burrow here too is

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Speaker 2: you know, we talk about, you know, injuries, and Philip

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Speaker 2: Rivers is one of the most durable players throughout his

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Speaker 2: entire career, almost never missed games played were in acl Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well that's where the nickname for Charlie Whitehurst clipboard Jesus,

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Speaker 2: came from, because there was thought that Charlie white Whitehurst

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Speaker 2: was talented enough to go other places and maybe compete

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Speaker 2: as a lower level starter for you know, another NFL

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Speaker 2: job somewhere. But it's like I got the cushiest job ever.

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers never gets hurt. So let me sit here,

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Speaker 2: collect my one and a half or one point seven

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Speaker 2: two point seven whatever it is, million dollars a year

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Speaker 2: for ten years, and I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on Chase Daniels all Ski Mass team

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Speaker 3: Chase Daniel. Chase Daniel made like forty million dollars. And

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Speaker 3: how many starts did he have? Five?

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Speaker 2: Six?

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Speaker 4: That many?

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Speaker 3: He made so much money. I don't know why breathed

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Speaker 3: shaking her ahead at me. Was he a saint? At

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Speaker 3: one point? Is that it think he was? Actually that's

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Speaker 3: the only reason. Did he how do you play?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 2: He did? Did he play? He did?

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Speaker 3: That's the point.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Doug Peterson, former head coach of the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion, head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles and

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Speaker 2: ex of the Jacksonville Jaguars, basically a career backup behind

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Speaker 2: Brett Farva's entire career.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so same situation.

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Speaker 2: So you have guys who are career backups who you know,

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Speaker 2: find to find a way to carve out on their

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Speaker 2: niche there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Matt Flynn while he wanted to play, Yes, he

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Speaker 3: got paid to play and then got beat out by

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. He ended up doing pretty well too, money wise,

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Speaker 3: considering cash versus actual games played out there. But I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry we're getting on tangent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about Joe Burrow made his return to the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals a couple of weeks ago, looked great on

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Night, and then obviously looked a pretty damn good

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Speaker 2: last week against Buffalo. Unfortunately, the defense well, look, he

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Speaker 2: had a couple of untimely interceptions at the end in

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Speaker 2: that fourth quarter, which didn't necessarily help the cause. But

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Speaker 2: their defense is pretty much did last in the NFL

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Speaker 2: and every meaningful statistic which certainly doesn't help their cause.

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Speaker 3: Well, I brought this up right after he got hurt,

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Speaker 3: and I made this comparison, and now many are making

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Speaker 3: this comparison. I'm not saying I'm a trendsetter. I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying I'm a trailblazer, but I did have this right

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Speaker 3: after he got hurt. It's him and Andrew Luck. There

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Speaker 3: are real comparisons between those two. You look at percentage

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Speaker 3: of snaps the defender made contact with them a defender

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Speaker 3: out there twenty one percent of snaps with Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 3: twenty percent of snaps with Joe Burrow. Luck was under

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Speaker 3: pressure twenty eight percent of the time, Burrow twenty seven percent.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Luck was sacked one hundred and seventy four times

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Speaker 3: in his career. Burrow's at two h three while playing

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Speaker 3: thirteen less games than Andrew Luck. He's actually had it worse,

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Speaker 3: and he's had some real serious injuries. And I've called

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Speaker 3: it mismanagement or coaching malpractice or yeah. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's the GM or it's the owner there in Sincy,

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Speaker 3: but they got real issues not protecting one of the

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Speaker 3: best quarterbacks we've seen in the last twenty five years,

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Speaker 3: just like Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 2: Well, the GM is the owner. Basically at this point

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Speaker 2: in Timmy, it's a family run organization. They say they're

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Speaker 2: not highly capitalized. There is not a such thing as

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Speaker 2: the NFL franchise that isn't highly capitalize. Every single team

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Speaker 2: makes four hundred I saw this last year. Four hundred

572
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Speaker 2: and thirty three million dollars is what every single individual

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Speaker 2: team got from the media rights deal.

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Speaker 3: Hey that money, tell me that wasn't money.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's real money. That's from the revenue share.

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Speaker 2: So that is before anything that you make on local

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Speaker 2: deals from the preseason or concessions or turnstyle or a

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Speaker 2: merchandise or anything else. Four hundred and thirty three million

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Speaker 2: dollars in your pocket.

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Speaker 3: Well, and it's not like Bengals fans aren't loyal. They're

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Speaker 3: coming through the turnstiles. They're putting their money in. They've

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Speaker 3: seen all kinds of stuff with this team, and they're

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Speaker 3: still spending money on them. What's the issue.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Burrow has been the Comeback Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year twice. That's hard to do twice and you've

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Speaker 2: only been in the league for six years. That's a

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Speaker 2: sick joke. That's embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Sen It's that's what you need to know for.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals organization to put And this is the second

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Speaker 2: time they've been in this situation. It wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 2: That Carson Palmer basically told him trade me or I'm retiring,

592
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Speaker 2: and sure enough they called his bluff and he did it.

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Speaker 4: He missed, he sat out an entire year, so they

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Speaker 4: traded him away to the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: He was like, I'm done with you guys being cheap,

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Speaker 2: not protecting me, not surrounding me with enough talent to

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Speaker 2: be able to give me an opportunity to win games

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Speaker 2: and championships. I don't want to be here anymore.

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Speaker 3: I think John Kitna tried that too, and they said, whatever,

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Speaker 3: we'll call your bluff. We don't care. But here was

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Speaker 3: some audio from Joe Burrow earlier this week, and he's

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Speaker 3: sounding as indifferent about playing as anyone right now. It

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Speaker 3: is a difficult time in Sinsey.

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Speaker 1: I don want to keep doing this. I have to

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Speaker 1: have fun doing it, you know. I've been through a lot,

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Speaker 1: and if it's not fun, then what am I doing

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Speaker 1: it for?

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Everybody else needs to be said, all right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and that thing.

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Speaker 2: You probably have known people like this who if they

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Speaker 2: follow their passion or their ambition or whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: and at a certain point, like your passion just gets

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Speaker 2: sucked out of you. Your love for it gets sucked

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Speaker 2: at for whatever reason, you're not getting the breaks, or

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Speaker 2: you know, there's certain obstacles that come into your way,

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Speaker 2: or sometimes you're doing everything right and there's other people

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Speaker 2: who are just holding you back, that are not allowing

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Speaker 2: you to grow. And I think Joe Burrow kind of

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Speaker 2: finds himself in that situation now, is like, this game

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Speaker 2: is not even fun at this point in time because

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna get hurt every single

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Speaker 2: time that I drop back there to pass where we're

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Speaker 2: losing games, I plan to the best of my abilities

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Speaker 2: on a weekend week out basis. I missed two months,

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Speaker 2: I came back, have been on fire, and we still

627
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Speaker 2: can't win.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Bengals offensive line is a kill joy.

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Speaker 3: That's their nickname right now. The defense is a kill joy.

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Speaker 3: They are sucking the life out of one of the

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Speaker 3: best quarterbacks we've seen.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's not sexual.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm just saying, this is somebody who looked like

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Speaker 3: he was on fire to play again when we heard

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Speaker 3: from him pre game on Thanksgiving, right before he took

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Speaker 3: down the Baltimore Ravens. I'm doing it for the love

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Speaker 3: of the game. Out here, you know, we get paid

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Speaker 3: to play a kid's game, and then he realized why

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Speaker 3: they get paid so much again because he's getting knocked

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Speaker 3: on his ass. And guys I think are more front

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Speaker 3: of mind with post playing career now than ever. And

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00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: it's a good thing. It's a good thing. Like guys

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Speaker 3: in the NBA talk about it all the time. I

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Speaker 3: want to be able to play with my kids. We've

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Speaker 3: seen all the CTE stuff with the NFL, and that's

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Speaker 3: part of the reason that Andrew Luck got out, and

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Speaker 3: I don't blame anybody that does. Luke Keigley did the

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Speaker 3: same thing. Well, I have no issue with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Andrew Luck played for a franchise that was competitive.

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Speaker 2: They were good. I mean they were I wouldn't say

651
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Speaker 2: they were on top of the world, but they certainly

652
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Speaker 2: were a competitive team at the time that he decided

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Speaker 2: to step away. Like the issue for Joe Burrow is

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00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: like again, he has Chase, he has against he has

655
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Speaker 2: weapons offensively, and I would give the Bengals credit for

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Speaker 2: locking those guys up. And even look, I look at

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Speaker 2: the NFL's salary cap, but they're kind of middle of

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Speaker 2: the pack right now when it comes to how much

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Speaker 2: money they're spending from a salary cap standpoint, so they're

660
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Speaker 2: not necessarily being bottom feeders. They have invested a little

661
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: bit into the roster. They just haven't done it extremely well,

662
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, at the most important positions

663
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: upfront on the offensive line, upfront, on the defensive line,

664
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Speaker 2: which is where the best teams usually built their foundation.

665
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: And if you're going to have a star quarterback like that,

666
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: you have to prioritize being able to keep the guy healthy.

667
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: And they haven't been able to do that.

668
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: So if you're a Joe Burrow and if there's talk

669
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Speaker 2: or speculation that you might be looking into retirement or

670
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: possibly asking for a trade, how could you blame him?

671
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: Because look, the ultimate goal when you come to play

672
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: is obviously to be able to compete and win championships.

673
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, everybody can't win a championship every

674
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: single year. We know that I at least want to

675
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: make sure that I'm in the hunt. If I'm not

676
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: in the hunt, I want to make sure that you

677
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: have the right guys around me that can at least

678
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: help pull me across the finish line. And he doesn't

679
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: have that support, he's not going to throw his teammates

680
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: under the bus. But I think he knows that's the case.

681
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: He knows I have to go out and score forty

682
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: every single week and that still might not be enough.

683
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: That's a defeating that's a very defeating position to be

684
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Speaker 2: in if you're a quarterback.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's demoralizing for him. The offense. You know, Jamar

686
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Chase before he came back, obviously wasn't feeling great about

687
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: the situation. Maybe they went too far with signing both

688
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 3: his receivers to big money, because you look at it

689
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Speaker 3: like this, Joe Burrow is so good. He elevates guys

690
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: around him, and once you pay the quarterback, which they have,

691
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: it becomes really hard to supplement in certain areas and

692
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: build a more complete roster out there. Like we used

693
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: to talk about this with Russell Wilson, Like, hey, the

694
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Speaker 3: seahawktion in a great position now because they don't have

695
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Speaker 3: to pay him yet and they've already won a Super Bowl.

696
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Speaker 3: But once you do, you're going to lose some of

697
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: those good defensive guys out there. You're gonna lose some

698
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Speaker 3: of the weapons on the outside. Well, what you hope

699
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Speaker 3: is your quarterback is so good that he can take

700
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Speaker 3: a go that's maybe a number three wide receiver and

701
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Speaker 3: make him a number two out there because he's so

702
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: damn talented. Maybe it was over kill paying both the receivers.

703
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Speaker 2: I and this is something I've subscribed to. I've made

704
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Speaker 2: this argument.

705
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Speaker 4: Now.

706
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Speaker 2: Granted, Dak Prescott is a very good quarterback, He's nowhere

707
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: near the level of Joe Burrow, so it's a little

708
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Speaker 2: bit different, and they're making they're both making stupid amounts

709
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Speaker 2: of money at starting quarterbacks. But this is where I

710
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: talk about whether when you talk about extending George Pickens,

711
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Speaker 2: so you're gonna commit that much money to George Pickens

712
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: and Cdee Lamb and Dak Prescott knowing you have other

713
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Speaker 2: holes to fill. I said this when they signed to

714
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Speaker 2: Higgans this offseason. It's like, look, he's important, he's a

715
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Speaker 2: great player. You need to fortify other parts of your team,

716
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Speaker 2: most notably your defense. You just take the money as

717
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Speaker 2: you're gonna allocate the T Higgins. Look, Joe Burrow was

718
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Speaker 2: so great, Jamar Chase is so great. I'm not gonna

719
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Speaker 2: say you could put anybody at number two and in

720
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Speaker 2: the slot, but you could put most slightly average receivers.

721
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Speaker 2: Because you have such a great quarterback and such a

722
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: great receiver on the other side, it's gonna open things

723
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Speaker 2: up for those guys. I don't need to have two

724
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Speaker 2: highly paid receivers and a highly paid quarterback on the

725
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: same roster. It's just really hard to build a competitive

726
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: team when you're built that way. So I always thought

727
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: that them extending Higgins was a bit of a mistake,

728
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Speaker 2: and I think it's even more glaring now just considering

729
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: how horrible their defense has been.

730
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Speaker 3: Well, and it's not just Joe Burrow that can make

731
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Speaker 3: guys around him better. When you have Jamar Chase out there,

732
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: he makes guys better. Remember when Pearlis price was it.

733
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Speaker 2: Yeah, peerless price? When he played next to Eric Molds

734
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Speaker 2: in Buffalo, Yes.

735
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Speaker 3: Eric Molds made him look like maybe he could be

736
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Speaker 3: a number one wide receiver out there. He was that good.

737
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: He goes to Atlanta, No, no, no, no, that was a

738
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: reality check. But Jamar Chase can do that with guys

739
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Speaker 3: across from him too, or on the other side of

740
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: the field. He's that good. I wonder if at some

741
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: point they make a trade, they have to do something

742
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: because another analogy or parallel and they're all apt with

743
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: him and Andrew Luck right now, they're the exact same age.

744
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: He's twenty nine, just like Andrew Luck was when he retired.

745
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: And Joe Burrow's been to a Super Bowl. He knows

746
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Speaker 3: what it takes, multiple AFC Championship games. He is a

747
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: proven winner and one of the best guys who continues

748
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: to come back from some really difficult injuries to put

749
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: his body on the line. But you start to lose

750
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: the joy of the game out there, or you start

751
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: to think the risk isn't worth the reward, because what's

752
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: the reward, Like we're going nine to eight at best,

753
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: that that's not good enough. You're not a contender, So

754
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: why am I putting my body on the line like this?

755
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: They have to prove to him that they are committed

756
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: to winning at the highest level if he's going to

757
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: line up under center and take the abuse.

758
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: Well, and I'm.

759
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: Sure from Mike Brown the ownership, they're gonna say, we've

760
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: already proven to you. We've paid you a lot of money,

761
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: we've locked up to your receivers, and more do you

762
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: want from us? It's like to say, like we said,

763
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: we want you to put a competitive roster on the field.

764
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: How about you some resources independent of the salary cap.

765
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: How about having a real scouting staff, which they don't.

766
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: They're assistant coaches unless something has changed over the last

767
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: couple of seasons. But I believe it's true there are

768
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: assistant coaches. Are the ones that do college scouting for them,

769
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: like they're defensive line coach to scouts the defensive line

770
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: for the college teams coming up for the draft. You're

771
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: spreading your guys really really thin.

772
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: They sound like the Lakers in like the earlier late

773
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: two thousands, you know, where their scouting department and everything

774
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: was behind and they weren't using the analytics. They were

775
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: doing stuff on the cheap like that, and it's a

776
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: bad look. Now we should probably mention that Joe Burrow

777
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: was also campaigning for them to pay his wide receivers

778
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: and it was going to bat for them. Yes, now

779
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: you can say that's not his job and they need

780
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: to make those decisions out there, but he can't be

781
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: like and he didn't say it explicitly. You know, why

782
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: are we paying all these guys and not getting me

783
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: help on the offensive line or not helping out the

784
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: defense when he was the one asking for his wide

785
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: receivers to get paid. So there is you know, there's

786
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: got to be some understanding there.

787
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: But still, yeah, well and look, he's not the one

788
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: necessarily saying, don't you know, don't give me all the

789
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: weapons of the world. I'm sure he wants them on

790
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: top of the fact that I'm sure he wants protection.

791
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: But as the general manager of the owner, you say, hey, man,

792
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: we're trying to do the best thing to serve the

793
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: franchise as a whole. The best thing that start of

794
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: franchise is to make sure we as we're as well

795
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: rounded o our organization as a team on the field

796
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: as we possibly can be. Maybe we shouldn't pay to Higgins.

797
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: Maybe we should pray Hendrickson and take some more money

798
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: and pay somebody else on the defensive line and he

799
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: gets some help on that front as supposed to getting

800
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: you more weapons like that would be probably the best

801
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: way to go about it. One thing I don't want

802
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: to see just selfishly. I want him to do what's

803
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: best for him obviously. I want him to be in

804
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: a good mental space, in a good physical space for

805
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: his future. I want to see the guy play like

806
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: he's such a fun guy to watch. He's He's one

807
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL easily when he's

808
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: out there. That game last week between the Bills and

809
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals is one of the best games I've seen

810
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: this season. It was so entertaining to watch, and it

811
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: was mainly because of those two quarterbacks out there. And

812
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: now I hate to see Joe Burrow hang it up

813
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: because of the incompetence of the organization that he plays for.

814
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: They're robbing all of us. We're not even Bengals fans.

815
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Speaker 3: We just want to see greatness out there. Please. Speaking

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Speaker 3: of greatness coming up next, well, there haven't been many

817
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: great video games turned into movies over the years. This

818
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Speaker 3: could be the one, Kevin, I'm telling you, we just

819
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Speaker 3: got the teaser for it. We'll talk about it coming

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Speaker 3: up in Geek News. Here on f and A, on FSR.

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Speaker 2: I always talk about the socials. You guys can hit

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Speaker 2: us up before we get to geek news. Here in

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Speaker 2: a second, Eloy from Compton. I don't think we've heard

834
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Speaker 2: from you for the last couple of weeks. I wonder why.

835
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Speaker 3: I'm here at crickets every time I think about him

836
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Speaker 3: right now, but.

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Speaker 2: No big kannessity Chiefs fan, he says, what's up? Fella's

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Speaker 2: great show? Is always no comment for tonight, just sitting

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Speaker 2: back and enjoying the show.

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Speaker 3: That's probably the right thing to do.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Uh Gunnard Thomas.

842
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Speaker 2: How about the Panthers taking over the NFC South even

843
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Speaker 2: without playing let's go, I'll have something on them coming

844
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Speaker 2: up in the NFL six pack coming up next our.

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Speaker 3: Oh you think I won't, all right?

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Speaker 2: But right now.

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Speaker 3: Facts m hmmm, sounds gonna have nice things.

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Speaker 2: Man, say you start gloating about the Panthers, Adham, and

849
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Speaker 2: that's what happens.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: Handled it on her end. It's geek news. It's a

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Speaker 3: video game fact of the week for you here, what's

853
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: up now? So, over the years, we've had some regrettable

854
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: video game movies where the game to film translation didn't

855
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: end up pleasing the fans. It was made for most

856
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: of them that like that. You're right, especially in the nineties.

857
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: Remember Double Dragon was Brothers, the original Mario Brothers. I

858
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: didn't have that on here, like I was horrible. I

859
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: remember having a birthday and renting Double Dragon. Now. Luckily

860
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: we also rented In the Army Now with Polly Shore

861
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: and that kind of cleansed the palette after that terrible movie.

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00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: That saved it.

863
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: But it's just crazy how they can make something that

864
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: bad when all we wanted was like a guy getting

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00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: kicked in the nuts his kids, Like, you could have

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Speaker 3: done that for ninety minutes and that would have entertained us.

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Speaker 4: It's not that hard. No, Mortal Kombat saved the day

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Speaker 4: on that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the original Mortal Kombat movie from nineteen ninety five, yes,

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Speaker 3: quality you want to patient. Yeah, there was a lot

871
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: of fighting in it that was very good, especially for

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00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: its time, But not all movies have ended up that good.

873
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: From the video game genre. Remember Street Fighter, the Legend

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Speaker 3: of Chun Lee with Kristen Kirk. I think is her

875
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: name from Smallville.

876
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: The Smallville Woman. Yeah, I never saw it.

877
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: I knew a woman, beautiful woman, good casting. Didn't see

878
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 3: the movie, didn't hear much about it. Then you're talking

879
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: about that that came out in the early two thousands.

880
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: There was a sequel as well. Some called it boob Raider.

881
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: We did not whatever you want to call it. Angelina

882
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: and Joe Lee, she did. She did show off a

883
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: little bit, and that was like the appeal of the

884
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 3: entire movie. They got Angelina Joe Lee to play tomb Raider. Now,

885
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: Jake Gillenhall, he had some pretty hard pecks in Prince

886
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: of Persia. Now, I never saw that that was a

887
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: video game.

888
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 4: I had no idea Prince of Persia had a movie

889
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: made after it.

890
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: Grand Tarismo got a movie, Neat for Speed Warcraft, there

891
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: was a tech In movie. Didn't hear great things about

892
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 3: any of those, but the New Mario movie. People talked

893
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: highly of that, the New Icenic movies. You liked it.

894
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: I did.

895
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: And now dropping in like t Hawk with the elbow drop,

896
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: we're getting a new Street Fighter movie. I don't know

897
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: if Van dam is going to be in this one,

898
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: because they got a whole slew of actors here, Kevin,

899
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: and they took some liberties. You want me to give

900
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: you some of the people that are going to be

901
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 3: playing our favorite characters here, Yeah, let's go. So they

902
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: got I mean, Eric andre is playing this guy Souvage.

903
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 3: Jason Momo is playing Blanca. Fifty cent is Ballrock, Andrew Schultz,

904
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: the comedian, plays some guy named Don Hibiki. Cody Rhodes

905
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: is Gile Sonic Boom. That UFC fighter Alex.

906
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Good shape.

907
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: I mean Gile was supposed to be swollen, giant pecks

908
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: and biceps.

909
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 3: The fighter Alex Volk is playing somebody named Joe. They

910
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: got a fitness influencer who's playing Zang Geef, a country

911
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: music singer. Orville Peck playing Vega, which I guess means

912
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: Vega was a guy. The question, I would prefer some

913
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: actual actors. Yeah, I know some of these people have

914
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: the look, but do you have the acting chops? The

915
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: costume design people can take care of the look. I

916
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 3: need actors. I'm disappointed because the teasers forty five seconds

917
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: and it looks like It's all about cameos, just like

918
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: Happy Gilmore two US more fn A on FSR coming up.

919
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: Next, don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

920
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: That is right hour two of F and A on FSR.

921
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: Here on Fox Football Saturday, Kevin Figures, Adam Alson hit

922
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: us up on x at KFIG one and at follow

923
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: Adam A coming up in about twenty minutes or so,

924
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: will be joined by Greg co Sell, co host here

925
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: of Fox Sports Sunday with Mike Harmon. Also the guru

926
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: at NFL Films breaks down all the film watches, all

927
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: the guys who are playing well, the guys who are not.

928
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: He will enlighten us, mostly me, who thinks he knows

929
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: what he's talking about. I know Greg knows what he's

930
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: talking about, so I'm excited to talk to him. Coming

931
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: up here a little bit later this.

932
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: Hour, we'll talk about college football in the second hour

933
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: a little bit plus two on two off. I should

934
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: say that's the third hour, but the hour after this

935
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: one is what I was referring to. But first we

936
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: got to get to the pros. Here mark.

937
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: Time for the NFL six pack.

938
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: Six categories on the NFL for you guys, alcohol themed

939
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: because that's the only way we could do it here.

940
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: That's the only way you can do it. But that's

941
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: where we've that's what we've chosen.

942
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: It was breeze idea. I don't know that's right. Let's

943
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: start with.

944
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: This mark hot seat heat check.

945
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: All right, Kevin, who do you got? Who's on the

946
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: hot seat? How are you feeling about your Raiders? I

947
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: don't know what are you going with.

948
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: I'll get to the Raiders coming up a little bit later.

949
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Trust me, it's gonna have a lot less to do

950
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: with them and more to do with their opponent this

951
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: coming weekend. From a hot seat heat check, I'm gonna

952
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: go a little bit off the beaten path to a degree.

953
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's Lamar Jackson, not the Baltimore Ravens

954
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: as the team, but Lamar Jackson individually, because it might

955
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: sound odd to say this. This game is not only

956
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: big for them, but it's huge for him. There are

957
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: a lot of team executives and scouts and I do

958
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: want to ask greco So about this too when we

959
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: talk to him next segment. They've shined a spotlight on

960
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: the performance of Lamar Jackson this year, and camps are

961
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: really split as to whether it's all due to just

962
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: current injury management or if he's actually in physical decline

963
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: right now. I do want to acknowledge there's a difference

964
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: between a guy who's dingmed up this season and just

965
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: trying to manage his way through a bunch of injuries

966
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: and the guys whose history of injuries has affected him

967
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: so much that he's never going to be the player

968
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: that he once was now. I don't know if we'll

969
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: find that answer out until the offseason. Will Lamar can

970
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: rest up, get well, come back healthy again next year.

971
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: But I do think it's worth asking the question of

972
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: whether or not his best days could potentially be behind him.

973
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: Signed a five year contract in twenty twenty three, so

974
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: he has two years left on his deal and a

975
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: massive cap hit attached to it seventy five and a

976
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: half million dollars for twenty six and twenty seven. So

977
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: it begs the question what exactly is his future in Baltimore,

978
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: because I don't know if it's going to foregone conclusion

979
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: that he's going to actually end his career there. At

980
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: the start of the year at him, remember there were

981
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: one to four I got off to that horrible start

982
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: but offensively, they were putting up numbers. He completed over

983
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: seventy percent of his passes, ten touchdowns, one interception. He

984
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: gets hurt, misses three games, plays pretty well against the

985
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: Dolphins on that Thursday night, and then since then it's

986
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: been a total disaster in the five games since that

987
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: Miami victory, completing about fifty five percent of his passes,

988
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: just two touchdowns and four interceptions, one rushing touchdown, which

989
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: he had last week against Pittsburgh. His best rushing output

990
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: was last week against the Steelers as well, with forty

991
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: three yards on the ground. That's a shell of what

992
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: he used to be. The sort of numbers he was

993
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: routinely putting up when he was running for over one

994
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: thousand yards a season. It was routine for him the

995
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: first four years of his career. So, look, you can

996
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: weather the storm of a guy missing a handful of

997
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: games every single season if you know that when he plays,

998
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: he's one of the most dynamic and dangerous.

999
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 4: Players in the league.

1000
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: But if his performance is not going to be up

1001
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: to snuff when he does play, Andy's injury prone, that's

1002
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: just a bad investment for you as a franchise. So

1003
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: I think the best thing for the Races right now

1004
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: for their books, at least restructure his contract in the offseason,

1005
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: open up some cap space, kick the can down the road,

1006
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: and hopefully he can return to form another option. I

1007
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: think it's less likely at this point in time because

1008
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: he's earned the right to be able to have a

1009
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: bad season and bounce back from it.

1010
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: You could potentially talk.

1011
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: About trading him away the old argument of you know

1012
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: you want to cut bait on the guy a year

1013
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: early before a year too early, rather than a year

1014
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: too late, because even with his injury history, there's plenty

1015
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: of teams who will take a flyer on him and

1016
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: hopes that he would stay healthy and would pay him

1017
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: a lot of money just in hopes that he returns

1018
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: to form. You mentioned the Raiders a second ago. They

1019
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: definitely be one of them by all means. So look,

1020
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: I'll say this, whether they make the playoffs or not,

1021
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: we need to watch closely at how he continues to

1022
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: perform down the stretch of the season. If he has

1023
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: an uptick in the way that he plays against a

1024
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: bad Bengals defense coming up on Sunday and at least

1025
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: show some flashes, maybe against the Patriots Packers and Steelers.

1026
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: It'll make the Ravens feel a lot better about themselves

1027
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: than the decision to stick with him long term. So

1028
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: I'm just really fascinated how his contract situation situation will

1029
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: be handled once the season ends, and he can do

1030
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: a lot to help himself on that front here in

1031
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: these final four weeks of the season.

1032
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: Based on how he performs, he.

1033
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 3: Lamar prove Joe Burrow right that his defense sucks. Yeah,

1034
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: do something this time against that.

1035
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 4: That magic elixir.

1036
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: That's a get right game for your off for your

1037
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: offense playing against the Bengals defense.

1038
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: All right, my hot seat heat check here for me. Yeah,

1039
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: it's steal my Panthers fandom. That's been on the hot

1040
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: seat as it always is, because when you have an

1041
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: owner this erratic, that is willing to throw a drink

1042
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: in a fan's face, all bets are off.

1043
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: For the realized that your middle name was Ellis Fairweather

1044
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: Adam Fairweather Osland. I didn't realize that was the.

1045
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Kevin, it's actually Steven. But I deserve

1046
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: to come and go as I please without fair Weather repercussions.

1047
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: It's okay to be a wishy, washy fan. If your

1048
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: owner is the mad king from Game of Thrones and

1049
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: it's trying to burn down his own kingdom or an

1050
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 3: organization in this case. I remember a buddy of mine

1051
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: actually once said this about the Raiders, who he was

1052
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 3: a fan of. When he was jumping in and out

1053
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: of being a fan with them. He said to me,

1054
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: I didn't turn my back on the Raiders. They turned

1055
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: their back on me because they were so dysfunctional in

1056
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: a mess towards the end of Al Davis's time. Well,

1057
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: I'd rather have that version of Al Davis that fired

1058
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffen with an overhead projector be the owner of

1059
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 3: the Panthers than Jeffrey Tepper. He's King Jeffrey or Jeoffrey,

1060
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: and I know he likes pies too. Okay, too many

1061
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 3: fat jokes going on, but I look, I don't think

1062
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 3: anyone should poison this pie. That's not what I'm saying,

1063
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: like King Jeoffrey or anything. But for me, if it's

1064
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 3: between eating that pigeon pie or watching another Panthers lost

1065
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: to the Saints where I'll have to eat crow with Breebrey,

1066
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: I might prefer the poison.

1067
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: This is it's gonna be eating some Bignets and some

1068
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: pole boys. Nah, he's gonna be dancing all over the Panthers'

1069
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: graves they get a victory this weekend.

1070
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: Look, you can do a lot of things to me, Panthers,

1071
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: but if you lose to the Saints twice in one

1072
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: year for the first time since checks notes twenty twenty three,

1073
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm out.

1074
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: Drew Brees still playing in twenty twenty three seems like

1075
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: he was.

1076
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: Maybe he's coming out of retirement next. I will not

1077
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: abide another loss to the Saints. I don't care what

1078
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 3: they won last week over the Bucks, helping my Panthers

1079
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: have a chance to win the NFC South, and now

1080
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: the Bucks lose again on Thursday night, Panthers are in

1081
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: the lead. Losses to the Saints will not be tolerated,

1082
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: especially with the playoffs in sight. The Panthers haven't made

1083
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs since twenty seventeen, where we lost to you

1084
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: guessed it, the Saints in a season where we lost

1085
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: to them three times, the hat trick of death. Those

1086
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 3: were definitely not my Panthers. But if this year's squad

1087
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: wants to be they better not lose on Sunday in

1088
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: New Orleans. Brie you're in trouble. On Sunday, revenge will

1089
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: be mine. Okay, you had the best weekend ever where

1090
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: the Suns beat the Clippers and the Saints beat the Panthers.

1091
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: That's over well, who doesn't beat the Clippers?

1092
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: Hey, all right, I'm believing. What do you got?

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00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 11: Uh?

1094
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: Mark? What's up next?

1095
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Trap game? Tap?

1096
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 2: You have a favorite in trouble or facing a trap

1097
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: game this weekend. I'm going to the Bears, who are

1098
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: hosting the Cleveland Browns this weekend. So look, I know

1099
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Bears fans like our guy Mark Ramsey over here, you know,

1100
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: on the board, and also Dan Wiki who covers the

1101
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: Lakers for the Athletic but he's a big Bears fan.

1102
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: Is the Chicago guy told me earlier this week that

1103
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: Shytown is the center of the NFL universe. By all means,

1104
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: I know you're giddy, you're happy with the way they're

1105
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: playing this season. I'm all forward.

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00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying.

1107
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 2: Fight of probably there, maybe, but I think Ben Johnson

1108
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: squarely in the mix for Coach of the Year. On

1109
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: was considering how this offensive look, how much Caleb Williams

1110
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: has improved, albeit he misses way too many easy throws

1111
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: here and there. And while I have been one of

1112
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 2: the biggest supporters this season and championing to turn around

1113
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: for Caleb and the Bear, I do think they need

1114
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: to be a little bit of an upset alert against

1115
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: the Browns coming up this weekend. So, coming off that

1116
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: self lost to Green Bay, you're knocking on the door

1117
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 2: of tying the game before Caleb throws a very, very

1118
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: it'll conceived interception in the end zone, and now you

1119
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: have a team that's playing out the string coming into

1120
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Speaker 2: your building. On the surface, it looks like a layup,

1121
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: but again, we've watched this leak for way too long.

1122
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: Sometimes the obvious doesn't seem so obvious. I can easily

1123
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Speaker 2: see the Bears viewing this as a walkover game, considering

1124
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: that they have a rematch against Green Bay coming up

1125
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: next Saturday night in primetime. So I think the scheduler

1126
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: is actually put when you have two of the most

1127
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: important games of your season as the bread of a

1128
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: sandwich with one of the dregs of the league in

1129
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: the middle as the meat, that's just really hard. It

1130
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: kind of plays mind games with you to a certain degree.

1131
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: I think in a spinal tap, not the sequel which sucked.

1132
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: They call that an s sandwich.

1133
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 4: Yes, to a certain degree, for sure.

1134
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Speaker 2: You also consider, by the way too, And I'll talk

1135
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: to Greg ask greco sel about this coming up in

1136
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: the next segment. Shduer Sanders really over. This was his

1137
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: third start last weekend. Look phenomenal against the Titans, who

1138
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: are terrible ranted, I'll give you that. And they probably

1139
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: should have won that game if they left him in

1140
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: there and didn't try to get cute with the whole

1141
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: two point conversion situation and the wildcat thing, which I'll

1142
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: still never forgive them for. But Brown's defense has been

1143
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: so stout all season long. Yes, they were torched by

1144
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard of all people last week. You realize, by

1145
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: the way, Tony Pollard hadn't sniffed one hundred yards rushing

1146
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: since Week two, when he had ninety two yards. Generally speaking,

1147
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: he hasn't topped sixty five yards in any game other

1148
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: than that one prior to last week.

1149
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: Did the Titans put up thirty points in that game?

1150
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a shootout.

1151
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: That's more points than they had scored all season long combined,

1152
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: I think.

1153
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: And Tony Pollard ran for one hundred and sixty six

1154
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: yards against the Cleveland Browns defense, Like I mentioned, that

1155
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: has been stout pretty much all season long, so that

1156
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: was a bit of an outlier for them. Even as

1157
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: bad as the team has been, the defense has at

1158
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: least been very good. So I believe that Browns defense

1159
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: is gonna put out a better effort on Sunday than

1160
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: they did last week. It's gonna be ten degrees that kickoff,

1161
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: by the way, twenty seven mile in wins is gonna

1162
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: make it feel like negative twenty. So I don't know

1163
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: if either offense is really gonna be on fire to

1164
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: light up the scoreboard.

1165
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 4: This has take the under all day long.

1166
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: Make no mistake, I don't think the Browns are gonna

1167
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: win the game, though, wouldn't surprise me if they did,

1168
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: but I don't.

1169
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: I wouldn't pick them to win, but I wouldn't.

1170
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: Necessarily be shocked if they cover the seven and a

1171
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: half point spread, And I think that might be a

1172
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: good bet for this Bears team that might be clearly

1173
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: looking ahead to a rematch against green Bay coming up

1174
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: next weekend.

1175
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: All right, look ahead game for them. That's your trap game, Tap,

1176
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm going with you know, the Steelers might be feeling

1177
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: good about themselves after winning at home in the home

1178
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 3: alone Booby Trap Bowl against the Ravens last week. As

1179
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers came out, you know, looking less like Harry

1180
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: or Marv. He's basically back to looking like Jake Gillenhall

1181
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: and Nightcrawler, kind of gaunt, crazy eyed. Basically me if

1182
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 3: I could ever lose ten pounds and get my body

1183
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: fat percentage down to ten, but that was my global I.

1184
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: Don't want you looking like the guy like finner Adam.

1185
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if you need to lose any more weight, You're.

1186
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 3: Fine, loock. Stephen King sets a good weight goal for me,

1187
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 3: all right. But the Steelers, though, they're trying to eat

1188
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: another dub like their jamis on Monday Night against the

1189
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: Dolphins this week. But these aren't just any Dolphins, because

1190
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: these Dolphins, believe it or not, actually have something to

1191
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 3: play for again. Not only did my guy bad boy

1192
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: Rick moranis Mike McDaniel right the ship. The dolphins are

1193
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: swimming alongside the ship like the Dolphin Darwin in sequest

1194
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: DSV with Roy Scheider. And if there's a show to

1195
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: bring back and revitalize, by the way, that's the what

1196
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: it should have had more than three seasons. But the

1197
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 3: Dolphins are trying to extend their season, having won five

1198
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: of six and giving themselves a slight chance of making

1199
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs. And by slight, I mean there's a better

1200
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: chance of SeaQuest coming back while still being captain by

1201
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: Roy Scheider because their record and the tie breakers going on.

1202
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 3: Even if they beat the Steelers, this is crazy, they

1203
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 3: still only have a one percent chance of making it

1204
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: into the playoffs. Even if they then beat the Bengals,

1205
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: they still only have a two percent chance. Even if

1206
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: they beat the Steelers Bengals Bucks, they have a four

1207
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: percent chance. And even if they beat the Patriots after

1208
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: that to win out winning the last four games, they

1209
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: would still the Dolphins only have a sixteen percent chance

1210
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 3: at ten and seven to make the playoffs in the AFC.

1211
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: Now, you know what are the odds on that? Adam

1212
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: I might throw a couple of shekels on that. Why

1213
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: the hell not?

1214
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: What are the odds they're listening to this podcast? They

1215
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: don't know that resistance is futile. Like I expect them

1216
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: to try hard and put up a fight against Pittsburgh

1217
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: on Monday Night Football. The Steelers, they better be aware

1218
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: of the fact the Dolphins are not mathematically eliminated yet

1219
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: yet yet, even the fuzzy bro Math says, there pretty

1220
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: much are. But the Steelers. They can't afford to let

1221
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: down after that victory over the Ravens. They really can't.

1222
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: It's a track game, no it is.

1223
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 4: That's a good call.

1224
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: That's a good call. Yeah, dive back into the NFL

1225
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: six pac coming up in just a little bit. But

1226
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: coming up next, it is our guy, Greg co Sel

1227
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: from NFL Films, also co hosts Fox Sports Sunday with

1228
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon. Here on Fox Sports Radio, will dive a

1229
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: little bit deeper into some of the big matchups coming

1230
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: up this weekend around the NFL. It's Kevin Figures, Adam,

1231
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 2: Austin f and A on FSR. Don't go Anywhere, Hey,

1232
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from The Odd Couple

1233
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 11: excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show.

1237
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,840
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1238
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1243
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1245
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a little Q and a FNA Cottonna.

1246
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: Welcome back in fn A on FSR and with the

1247
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,799
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1255
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: Coming up in about twenty minutes or so, we will

1256
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: dive back into the NFL six pack. We've got to

1257
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: continue the NFL discussion right now with one of our

1258
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: favorite guests, Adam.

1259
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: Let's get to it Ian drinking.

1260
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: Dud, Thank you Donny Well. When Colin Coward burns himself

1261
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: and has to put down the hot takes for the

1262
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 3: cold hard truths he brings in this man for the

1263
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 3: no nonsense professional analysis that will make you a smarter

1264
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 3: football fan. Hell, you might even end up the next

1265
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 3: coach of the Buccaneers after this interview. It's the incomparable

1266
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 3: Greg Cosel joining us here on f and a on FSR.

1267
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: Follow him at Greg CoA cell and listen to him

1268
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: with Mike Harmon on Fox Football Sunday from five to

1269
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 3: seven am Pacific time. Greg.

1270
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Speaker 1: How are you?

1271
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 3: Thanks for doing this yere on FNA.

1272
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 5: I'm doing great, guys. How are you?

1273
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: We're good?

1274
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 4: Excellent?

1275
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: Can we talk about my Panthers a little bit because

1276
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: they've benefited from the Buccaneers losing the other night? And

1277
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 3: I have been a Panthers fan for a long time

1278
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: and they haven't made the playoffs since twenty seventeen. What

1279
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: have they done right to really turn things around this season?

1280
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 5: You know, they're a very odd team to evaluate. I

1281
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 5: think defensively they're pretty good, and they've play had to

1282
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 5: play some backup players, but they've played pretty solid football.

1283
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 5: I think their corners for the most part, Horned who

1284
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 5: always plays to the boundary, and Jackson, who plays to

1285
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 5: the field, have played well. Their front is good. They

1286
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 5: they you know, they obviously play some young people. They've

1287
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 5: played scoured and the rookie from A and M a

1288
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 5: lot of snaps. I think they are hoping he'll develop

1289
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 5: into more of a pass rusher, but he's a rookie.

1290
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 5: I think their de tackle rotation has been really solid

1291
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 5: and offensively, you know, they're they're kind of an interesting

1292
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 5: team because you know, Bryce Young has obviously made some

1293
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 5: good throws, but they're probably more of a running team.

1294
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 5: Dawdles had good moments. Hubbard's now back, He's gives them

1295
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 5: a nice one two punch. We'll see as they go

1296
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 5: forward the rest of the season, because I think their

1297
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 5: past game will have to continue to be a factor. Look,

1298
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: they hit they hit the big two fourth down plays

1299
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 5: to beat the Rams. Uh. The second one to McMillan

1300
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: was a great job by by Bryce Young because that

1301
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 5: was not the read on the play. That was a

1302
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 5: late read on the play, not the design of the

1303
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Speaker 5: play at all. So uh, they're there are you know,

1304
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 5: they're kind of an odd team because you don't look

1305
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 5: at them and go, there's a really good team. But

1306
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 5: they're hanging in there and they and they win some games.

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Speaker 2: Right. What was your evaluation of the Atlanta Falcons coming

1308
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: into the season. It's been a point of debate between

1309
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: Adam and myself. He says, either think they'd be competing

1310
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: for a playoff spot anyway. I thought with their young

1311
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: offensive talent, with obviously there are Michael Pennixs junior having

1312
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: a full training camp under his belt as a starter,

1313
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: all the capital they spent to improve their defense, I

1314
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: thought that by the time we got to Christmas Day

1315
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: at least be in the discussion for getting into a

1316
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: playoff spot. But clearly that's not the case, even with

1317
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: their big victory against Tampa Bay on Thursday night. Just

1318
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: coming into the season, what were your expectations for Atlanta

1319
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: and then watching the film through this year, why do

1320
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: you think they've struggled as much as they have this year?

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Speaker 5: Well, I can answer the second part better. I don't

1322
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 5: do a lot of like you know, you know, in expectation,

1323
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 5: I have to see them play on tape, so you know,

1324
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 5: I would say that offensively, they were very up and down.

1325
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Speaker 5: And the one thing that kind of surprised me, And

1326
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 5: you know, I never rip coaches ever, I just don't

1327
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 5: do that because I've been fortunate in my career to

1328
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 5: be able to sit in meetings in training camp and

1329
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 5: those kinds of things. And I know how hard everybody works,

1330
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 5: so it's not a rip. But you know, I leays

1331
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 5: feel when I watch them that Vjon Robinson should really

1332
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 5: be the foundation of their offense. I personally think he's

1333
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 5: the best back in the league when it comes to

1334
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: everything he can do. I know that a lot of

1335
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 5: people this year might say Jamir Gibbs, and I understand

1336
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 5: that argument totally, but you know, Vjon Robinson to me,

1337
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 5: is is such a good player. You can obviously he's

1338
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 5: an excellent runner. They run outside zone more than any

1339
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 5: team in the league. That's their foundation. Robinson can be

1340
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 5: detached from the formation and be a great receiver. You know.

1341
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 5: Pennix was working through the uneven play that often is

1342
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Speaker 5: the result of being, you know, a true first year starter,

1343
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 5: and I think they were very up and down on

1344
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 5: offense because of it. Defensively, I kind of like what

1345
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 5: Jeff Olbrick does. They they're a very good pressure team. Look,

1346
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Speaker 5: they played a lot of young players, you know, and

1347
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 5: then that's another thing with young players, you know, there's

1348
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 5: uneven play. You know, they counted on Pierce and Walker

1349
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 5: to be, you know, really good players. I think Pierce

1350
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 5: was starting come on, you know, I think Wats has

1351
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 5: had a nice year as the rookie safety along with Bates.

1352
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 5: I really like Kate Nellis. I think he's a really

1353
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 5: good player. And I think Albrook's done a nice job

1354
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Speaker 5: with pressure concepts. They play a ton of man and

1355
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Speaker 5: they like the pressure.

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Speaker 3: Greg go sells our guest here on FNA on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio, Greg, what happened to the Eagles offense last year?

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Speaker 3: We would have all said, okay, Saquon Barkley's obviously the

1359
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Speaker 3: best back in the league. Since you were just talking

1360
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Speaker 3: about Robinson. I know, it's one thing to have so

1361
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 3: many different, I guess moving parts going on and maybe

1362
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Speaker 3: a wrench in the gears of their offense. But they've

1363
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Speaker 3: regressed to a point where it's difficult to read exactly

1364
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Speaker 3: where the issue is here. What have you seen?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 5: Why do you think the Eagles offense was good last year?

1367
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Speaker 5: They ran the ball better, and why are they not

1368
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Speaker 5: good this year?

1369
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Speaker 3: Is okay? Is it Sakwan's regrets or are they just

1370
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 3: not going to have enough?

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Speaker 5: Think of it this way. Last year they had an

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Speaker 5: historic perform Orrmans by a running back behind an offensive

1373
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Speaker 5: line that was arguably the best in the league, certainly

1374
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Speaker 5: when it came to run blocking. This year, the offensive

1375
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 5: line has probably played at a level that's in the

1376
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 5: bottom third of the league. So they've not been able

1377
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Speaker 5: to run the football. Keep in mind, last year, Jalen Hurts,

1378
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 5: including playoffs, I think started eighteen or nineteen games or

1379
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 5: twenty games. Was he missed some and he threw for

1380
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 5: less than two hundred yards in about half of those games.

1381
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Speaker 5: So the reality is they weren't a passing team a

1382
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 5: year ago. They had an historic running season. So now

1383
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 5: the inability to run the ball with any kind of

1384
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 5: meaningful consistency, the passing game is the passing game. They're

1385
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 5: not a passing team. They weren't a year ago, but people,

1386
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 5: I think lose sight of that. So you know, I

1387
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 5: thought they did a lot better this week in terms

1388
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 5: of their pass game concepts, and they really helped Hurts

1389
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 5: quite a bit. He made some really good throws in

1390
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 5: this last game because the concepts really defined the reds

1391
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 5: and the throws for him, and hopefully they can get

1392
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Speaker 5: continue to build on that.

1393
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Speaker 4: What about their counterparts from the Super Bowl last season.

1394
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Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs, who are at this point in time,

1395
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: it looks like they're not going to make the playoffs

1396
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: for the first time in the Mahomes Andy Reid era.

1397
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Speaker 2: From what you've seen on film, I mean, offensively, people

1398
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: have talked about they had injuries to the receivers early on,

1399
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Speaker 2: those guys came back, and then injuries to the offensive line.

1400
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Speaker 2: So is it literally just injury issues or is it

1401
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: something deeper in play as to why they've struggled so

1402
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Speaker 2: much this season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're a tough team to figure. I mean, it's

1404
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 5: another thing, you know. In the last two years, not

1405
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 5: counting this year, Okay, the last two seasons, they've only

1406
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 5: averaged twenty two points a game, which by NFL standard

1407
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 5: is a low number. They've not been a high scoring

1408
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 5: offense in the last two seasons. They don't run the

1409
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Speaker 5: ball with any real volume or consistency. Every once in

1410
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: a while they have a game where they do that.

1411
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Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, I think they had ninety

1412
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 5: offensive plays and Kareem Hunt had thirty carries. But they're

1413
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 5: not really a running football team, so they rely on

1414
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 5: the pass and they rely really on Steve Spagnolo's defense,

1415
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Speaker 5: which has really been among the best in the league.

1416
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 5: Now this year it hasn't been quite at the same

1417
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 5: level as the last two years when they were phenomenal. So,

1418
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 5: you know, I think the offense is probably playing at

1419
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 5: much the same level that it has, the defense hasn't

1420
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 5: been quite as good. You know, every time I watch

1421
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 5: their tape, it seems to me that all their good

1422
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 5: plays come off outside of structure, improvisational plays, and Mahomes

1423
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 5: is arguably the best in the league at that maybe

1424
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 5: one of the best we've ever seen. It's just hard

1425
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 5: to live in that world every single week.

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Speaker 3: I believe you said this something along those lines, Greg

1427
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Speaker 3: earlier this week on with Colin Coward talking about Josh Allen,

1428
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Speaker 3: where they have to do so much improvisation that it

1429
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: puts so much on his plate. The team isn't that

1430
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: great around him and he has to do everything out there.

1431
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Speaker 3: Is that a correct characterization?

1432
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean I'll amplify. I think the Bills

1433
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 5: don't have a great roster overall. I mean, I think

1434
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 5: most people would be hard pressed to name any impact

1435
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 5: defender that they have. I think Sean McDermott does a

1436
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 5: really good job. He's one of the best there is

1437
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 5: in the league at what we call late coverage rotation,

1438
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 5: where the what you see pre snap is not what

1439
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 5: you get post snap. I think he's one of the

1440
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 5: best in the league doing that. But they don't really

1441
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 5: have an impact defender at any level of their defense.

1442
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 5: We know about the wide receiver position, they don't really have,

1443
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 5: you know, big time wide receivers. I really like Khalier Shakir,

1444
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 5: but I think we'd all probably agree that he's you know,

1445
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 5: he's a slot guy. He's probably a really good number three.

1446
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 5: So they're a running football team by necessity behind an

1447
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 5: offensive line that's been a little banged up of late.

1448
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 5: And then it's Josh Allen and you know, when you

1449
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 5: ask your quarterback again, it's the same thing. It's hard

1450
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 5: to live in that world every week. And he's phenomenal.

1451
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 5: We alway did a few weeks ago against Tampa. We

1452
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 5: already did this past week against Cincinnati. But you know,

1453
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 5: sometimes that just doesn't happen. And it's not because Josh

1454
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 5: Allen isn't great. It's just hard to make those kinds

1455
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 5: of plays in this league all the time, you know.

1456
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: Talking about defenses, I want to put the spotlight on

1457
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: two of them in the AFC, Houston and Denver two

1458
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: of the best defensive units in the entire league.

1459
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 4: But offensive league can have some issues.

1460
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 2: I know that's some late game magic that the Denver

1461
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: Broncles have had this season and have won a lot

1462
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 2: of close games throughout the years, and all the film

1463
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: that you've seen, you've seen dominant defenses throughout the seasons,

1464
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: the no flies on DEFENSI for Denver though two thousand

1465
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. Do you think these two defensive units are

1466
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: good enough to carry the offensive units into a postseason

1467
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: run where the offense doesn't have to show to as

1468
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: much of a carry because the defenses are so good.

1469
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: Do you see that sort of potential in these two defenses.

1470
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great question, and that's a hard question

1471
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 5: to answer. Houston's defense is really really good, and I

1472
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 5: think they have really good players at all three levels.

1473
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 5: You know, just based on my film study this year,

1474
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 5: I think that kaaln Bullock, who predominantly plays their post safety,

1475
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 5: their deep safety position, I think he's played at the

1476
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 5: best of anybody in the league. I think he's been

1477
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 5: the best post safety in the league. We know about

1478
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 5: Hunter and Anderson, but I think the interior of their

1479
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 5: defensive line, which doesn't get talked about much at all

1480
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 5: because of Hunter and Anderson, is really really good and

1481
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 5: their linebacking corps. While they may not have a star

1482
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 5: per se, they are really good players. And once they

1483
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 5: sort of inserted EJ. Speed more beginning kind of mid season,

1484
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 5: he's a you know, a better athlete than too Too.

1485
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 5: And they kind of rotate and mix and match. Then

1486
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 5: they're really good at all three levels. That defense, to me,

1487
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 5: can shut you down. Denver's defense is really good as well.

1488
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 5: They're a little different defense. Vans Joseph plays a ton

1489
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 5: of man coverage. He likes to pressure, you know, So

1490
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 5: both really good and kind of different ways. Can they

1491
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 5: can you win just with their defense? Boy? I guess

1492
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 5: it would depend on the opponent. I mean, you know,

1493
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 5: looks it looks like a year where Mahomes and Lamar

1494
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 5: are not going to be in the playoffs, you know,

1495
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 5: and us there's some kind of miracle, I guess. So

1496
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 5: we'll see. But I think that that those defenses, you know,

1497
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 5: depending on the opponent, It always depends on the opponent.

1498
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 5: They can carry you in any given game.

1499
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: Greg Coselle joining us here F and A on FSR. So,

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Speaker 2: since you brought up Lamar Jackson, I talked about this

1501
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier in the show as far as

1502
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: how he's performed, especially coming back from all of his injuries.

1503
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 2: From what you've seen on film, do you believe that

1504
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: he has just regressed from a skill set standpoint? Is

1505
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: he just struggling because he's banged up? But a lot

1506
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 2: of scouts and executives have said he's missing a lot

1507
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: of easy throws that he typically would make. And I

1508
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: know it's really hard for you to make that determination

1509
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: when you're not there to see whether it's his injuries

1510
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: or just consistency overall, But just what do you think

1511
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: has been the issue for Lamar Jackson this season?

1512
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 5: You know, I think that's a really valid point, though.

1513
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 5: I think that he has missed throws that would be

1514
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 5: considered lay up throws in the NFL, and that's something

1515
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 5: that we haven't really seen much of in the past

1516
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 5: at all. And I can't answer the why part of that,

1517
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 5: but that's what the film shows, and I don't think

1518
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 5: he's quite as explosive in the way in which he

1519
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 5: moves Now. I don't know if that's a function of

1520
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 5: injury and we can expect him to return to that

1521
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 5: level next year, or whether it's just age and the

1522
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 5: fact that he's not a big man, who does you know,

1523
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 5: get hit because he runs. So we're going to have

1524
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 5: to wait and see on that. But he clearly has

1525
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 5: misthrows this year that he's not missed before. I thought

1526
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 5: over the last couple of years, he's been a really

1527
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 5: good thrower of the football and it hasn't quite been

1528
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 5: the same this year.

1529
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 3: Greg last one for me, we saw Cam Newton get

1530
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: upset that he didn't get a call from the Colts

1531
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: and instead they went with Philip Rivers. Why is Philip

1532
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 3: Rivers the right guy for Shane Steichen at the age

1533
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: of forty four? And how does someone like you evaluate him?

1534
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 3: Do you go back to old Philip Rivers tape? Are

1535
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 3: you watching like Steve de Bergh just seeing what a

1536
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 3: forty four year old quarterback can do? How do you

1537
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 3: figure out what he's going to look like realistically with

1538
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: the Colts?

1539
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 5: Well, I guess Joe Montana was unavailable.

1540
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 3: Huh.

1541
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 5: You know, Look, Philip Rivers was one of my absolute

1542
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 5: favorite quarterbacks when when he played, in many ways he

1543
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 5: was like Peyton Manning. He controlled the game from the

1544
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, he saw everything. He was as tough

1545
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 5: as they come. But you know, just being honest faced

1546
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 5: on tape, his last year in the league, which was

1547
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, he couldn't throw the ball very well. So

1548
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not going back and looking at Philip

1549
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 5: Rivers and I guess he's going to play. I mean,

1550
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 5: you know, they didn't sign him to have him, you know,

1551
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 5: carry a clipboard, so I just I don't know. I mean,

1552
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 5: he couldn't throw it really well in twenty twenty, so

1553
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, what he can do now.

1554
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 5: And you know, in some ways, I'm I kind of

1555
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 5: feel badly because I just he's obviously not a great athlete,

1556
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 5: never was even when he was a great player, and

1557
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 5: I thought he was a great player, but I just it's,

1558
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 5: you know, he just he was done being able to

1559
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 5: throw the ball well at it whatever age he was

1560
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 5: when he retired.

1561
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: And the last one for me here, Greg, thanks for

1562
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: spending as much time with us as you have, just

1563
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: going back said, we have Cleveland taken on Chicago this

1564
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: weekend and people talk about Shador Sanders. His best game

1565
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: as a pro by far last week against Tennessee in

1566
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: a losing effort. He wasn't in the game for that

1567
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: two point conversion, which still puzzles me. But on film,

1568
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: what did and how has the progression looked like from

1569
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 2: Sdora Sanders from his very first start to where he

1570
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: was last week against Tennessee.

1571
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 5: Well, progression is not the word I used. He started

1572
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 5: two games, but he played very well this week. The

1573
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 5: first week in which he started, he really missed some things.

1574
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 5: He just didn't see the field very well, and he

1575
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 5: missed throws that were clean and defined and just didn't

1576
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 5: turn it loose. This week, I thought he saw things.

1577
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 5: I thought he played with some calmness, some composure. Every

1578
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 5: once in a while he will hold the ball too long,

1579
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 5: which you know, ideally with more experience and more reps,

1580
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 5: he understands that that you can't do that. But he

1581
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 5: made some really big time throws. I thought he played

1582
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 5: well this week, and you know, anxious to see him

1583
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 5: continuing to go forward. You know, I think he you know,

1584
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 5: what his greats are is that he could be a

1585
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 5: very solid, you know, ball distributor. That's what his traits are,

1586
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,959
Speaker 5: and you know, we'll see. You know, from what I understand,

1587
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 5: the weather in Chicago this week's supposed to be really

1588
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 5: really cold, so you know, which is no fun for anybody,

1589
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 5: you know, not even quarterbacks that are that are great.

1590
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's supposed to be twenty or

1591
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 5: less below. So we'll see how that plays out.

1592
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 3: Between the cool factor with Shadora Sanders and the actual

1593
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 3: cold out there on the Midway in Chicago. We shall

1594
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 3: see what wins out here. He is great co Sale,

1595
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: best of the best, I think. I think Colin Cowherd

1596
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: would agree with that. And we just had him on

1597
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 3: and he had us in the dark room, like Mike

1598
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 3: Mars was in there as well, hanging out, pointing out plays, routes.

1599
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: Everything you need to know to get prepared to be

1600
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: a smarter football fan out there at Great co Sales

1601
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 3: where you find him and listen to him with Mike

1602
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: Harmon on Fox Football Sunday from five to seven am

1603
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 3: Pacific time. Greg, thanks again for doing this.

1604
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 5: Appreciate it guy.

1605
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 4: Well, I'll feel a smarter now that I have talked

1606
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 4: to Greg Cozel.

1607
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,480
Speaker 3: I feel dumber because because he was so smart dumb ass.

1608
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: I feel so inferior. I know nothing, I've learned nothing.

1609
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 4: Did he sund you on the Philadelphia Eagles Man?

1610
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 3: I yeah, but I'll take that from Greg. Nobody else,

1611
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 3: but I'll take that from him. Look, I get it.

1612
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm just is it the offensive line? Is it Saquan?

1613
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 3: Is it both? Is it? Everything? Like, there's just so

1614
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 3: much regression going on.

1615
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: We had Greg on the show maybe about a month ago,

1616
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit longer ago, and he kind of

1617
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: put the spotlight on the offensive line just not playing

1618
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: up to snuff for whatever reason. So it would make

1619
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: sense to me that it will be a combination of

1620
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 2: a couple of things, the old line not playing well

1621
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: and Saquon Barkley the two thousand yard jinks.

1622
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 4: I'm still alive.

1623
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 3: How many picks did Jalen Hirts throw on Monday Night Football?

1624
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 3: I know the last one, you know, that was a

1625
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 3: great defensive play, but still, my god.

1626
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: Consider all the mistakes they made in that game and

1627
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: they still lost, barely lost that game.

1628
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 3: The Chargers literally don't have an offensive line.

1629
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 4: Well, that is true, that is true.

1630
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: More on that coming up. I think in the NFL

1631
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 3: six pack as we still got our beer goggles game

1632
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Speaker 3: to get into our old Troy epic fail and much more.

1633
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Speaker 2: Adam mentioned, we'll take a short timeout. When we come

1641
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Speaker 2: back on the other side, we'll dive back into the

1642
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: NFL six pack.

1643
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1644
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Speaker 3: If I could get in a Broadway show, then I

1645
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 3: would have done it all film, television and theater.

1646
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Speaker 2: So the thing love to be radio.

1647
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Speaker 1: That's just for ugly people.

1648
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1649
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1650
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1652
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1657
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Speaker 2: It is FNA on FSR Fox Football Saturday with Kevin

1658
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 2: Figures and Adam Alston. Coming up next hour will dive

1659
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: into college football and our college football forecast. It is

1660
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: Army Navy weekend. But of course the controversy this week

1661
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: surrounding the college football playoff and Notre Dame and all

1662
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: of their Some would say whining and complaining. Some would

1663
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: say rightfully so, some would say get over it. So

1664
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that coming up next hour. Right now,

1665
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: you want to dive back into the NFL six pack?

1666
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: What do we have?

1667
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: Beer goggles? Kay?

1668
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: All right?

1669
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 3: So this is like a game that doesn't look that

1670
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 3: good on paper, yep, but you can find some cool

1671
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: stuff in there and a reason to watch eventually.

1672
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 4: Do you want to go?

1673
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 3: Do you want me to go?

1674
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 11: Here?

1675
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 3: Kevin? What's up?

1676
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: You know?

1677
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: I'll start here. I'll start because I'll go to this

1678
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: epic NFC East matchup between the Commanders and the Giants,

1679
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: wamp I'll be honest, it's really hard, Adam, to find

1680
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 2: a compelling argument to watch a three to ten team

1681
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: face a two point eleven team at ten o'clock in

1682
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: the morning on the best coast, to be honest with you,

1683
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: And unfortunately Jane Daniels out again this week, and honestly,

1684
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: at this point in this season probably should just be

1685
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: shut down for the entire year. That elbow injury going

1686
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: to continue to get irritated because he's going to continue

1687
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: to be running for his life, because he's going to

1688
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: continue to get annihilated by opposing defenses playing behind that

1689
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: Washington offensive line. So as a team, Washington not going anywhere.

1690
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 2: I don't believe that dan Quinn's on the hot seat,

1691
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: by the way, I've heard that come up a little bit,

1692
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: because similar to the Dolphins, at least for me, this

1693
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: is my outlook. I don't know how you see it, Adam.

1694
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: I think their issues are more personnel based and injury

1695
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 2: based than coaching base. At this point in time, their

1696
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: defense is just old and slow. They can't keep up

1697
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: with anybody, and their offensive skill players are either hurt

1698
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: are also old and slow, So there's just not a

1699
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: lot to work with that they need a little bit

1700
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: of a rebuild around, actually a lot of bit of

1701
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: a rebuild around Jayden Daniels as the pillar. I don't

1702
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: think dan Quinn is the issue there, but with Washington

1703
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: be in this bat, it does open the door for

1704
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart to have a big game. He's healthy, he's

1705
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: rested coming off a bye week, pois to continue to

1706
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: improve like he has all season long. Obviously it hasn't

1707
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: resulted in a lot of wins, but if you consider

1708
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 2: how that Giant offense has looked with him under center,

1709
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: it's been pretty viable and competitive considering they've had a

1710
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 2: ratch of injuries to several of their skill position players.

1711
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: So clearly no one outside of the DMV area is

1712
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 2: going to give it to about the Commanders in this one.

1713
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 2: But if you want to watch the progression of a

1714
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: really good young quarterback who I think can actually be

1715
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 2: one of the upper echelon quarterbacks in this league if

1716
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: he stays healthy, continues to progress, then I think you

1717
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: should stick, you know, spend a few minutes watching this

1718
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: game between the Giants and the Commanders and see what

1719
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark can do. I'm with you.

1720
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 3: I got this is my beer goggles game as well,

1721
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 3: Like I think this Commander's Giants game could be drunker

1722
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,560
Speaker 3: than former cornerback Quinton Jammer when he to play in

1723
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: the league. As he tweeted out on Monday Night Football

1724
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: during the Chargers Eagles game that he was completely s

1725
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 3: face drunk in at least eight games during his twenty

1726
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 3: eleventh season for the Chargers. Quintin Jammer.

1727
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 2: I did like to follow up that a lot of

1728
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: fans had when they had a bunch of highlights of

1729
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 2: him getting torched.

1730
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 4: The was like, were you a drunk on this play?

1731
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 4: How about this one?

1732
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: Hey?

1733
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 4: He opened himself up for it.

1734
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: To his credit, he's like, hey, I'm being vulnerable right now,

1735
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: but bleep you guys, I don't care.

1736
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, which I respect. He was trying to be honest.

1737
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 3: It's freeing, it's freeing out there. I guess he was

1738
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: going through a divorce, so that's going through a lot

1739
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: at the time.

1740
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: He said, Yeah, mental health issue is all that.

1741
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 3: He also said if Marty Schottenheimer was never fired, he

1742
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: probably never would have gone down that road to let

1743
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 3: him leading him to drink.

1744
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, have fun with that one.

1745
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 3: AJ Smith, this game, this game could have some real

1746
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: drunk looking plays as well, and decisions from both the

1747
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 3: Commanders and Giants this season, Like I don't know if

1748
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart is drunker on PCP with some of the

1749
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 3: runs he tries like he thinks he's Superman out there.

1750
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 3: The reaction from Peyton Manning on the Monday Night Manning Cast,

1751
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 3: which I do enjoy, when he got lit up. I

1752
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 3: forget who it was on the Patriots, but it was

1753
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 3: a Sean Taylor type of hit. And Peyton Manning is

1754
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: watching Jackson Dart tiptoe around the sideline but not get

1755
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 3: out of bounds, and he just stood their mouth at

1756
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 3: gate for like thirty seconds, wondering what the hell he's doing.

1757
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 3: He could not believe Jackson Dart was that stupid to

1758
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 3: not just go out of bounds. Now I mentioned Sean Taylor, well,

1759
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart going up against his former team, I guess

1760
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: with a new name, Now this game could get wacky.

1761
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 3: Neither team needs to tank to get a higher pick

1762
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 3: for a quarterback.

1763
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 4: Now they're bad enough. Yeah, whether they try or not.

1764
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: No Jaydon Daniels, but Mariota has been decent and it

1765
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 3: does look like the Giants defense though that was kind

1766
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 3: of good. Gave up over a month ago all of

1767
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: a sudden. Yeah, and meanwhile, the Commander's defense, as you mentioned,

1768
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 3: they gave up in game two of the preseason, so

1769
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 3: you could get a high scoring game. I see the

1770
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 3: entertainment factor here between the Giants and Commanders with my

1771
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 3: beer goggles on, at least because it is our beer

1772
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 3: goggle matchup here on the six pack.

1773
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mario has actually showed himself decently well as a

1774
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. I think he's shown his deficiencies as to

1775
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 2: why he can no longer be a starter at this point.

1776
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 4: I can't really say he's.

1777
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: Kept the Commanders afloat because again they're three to ten

1778
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: at this point in time. But to your point, in

1779
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: a game like this, I gets another subpar opponent, I

1780
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: could definitely see this game going, you know, being high scoring,

1781
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 2: getting into the thirties for both teams.

1782
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 4: Why not.

1783
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: I just need Jackson Dart to relax, stop worrying about

1784
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: what they're saying about him and the tabloids with Instagram models,

1785
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 3: and get the hell out of bounds because I do

1786
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 3: want to see him play for a long time, and

1787
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 3: the Giants haven't had a on a success with great

1788
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,799
Speaker 3: quarterback play over the last fifty years.

1789
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 4: I'll say forever their entire franchise's history.

1790
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 3: They've had glimpses here and there, Phil Simms in the

1791
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: Super Bowl and then he lied Manning in the Super

1792
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 3: Bowl getting hot. Hostetler like, they've had moments, but they

1793
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 3: haven't had the consistency. And he looks like he actually

1794
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 3: has the tools to be a really good quarterback in

1795
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: this league if he can stay healthy. And that's really

1796
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 3: up to him because the hits he's taken, it's not

1797
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 3: because the offensive line is just letting him get sacked

1798
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 3: over and over again. It's because he's trying to extend place.

1799
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeahwait, needs to get to go into the Russell Wilson

1800
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: camp and learn how to slide, because that's also part

1801
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 2: of his game and part of his identity is being

1802
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: able to use his legs, keep plays alive and run around.

1803
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: He's almost like Johnny Manziel if Johnny Manzela actually worked.

1804
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 2: He's kind of a little bit like that. You just

1805
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: need them to have a little bit more consistency. We

1806
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: have more of the NFL six pack coming up here.

1807
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: FNA on FSR, you're.

1808
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: Listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio final of.

1809
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: Fn A on FSR for this week it is Kevin

1810
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 2: Figures at kfig Ones where you can find me on X.

1811
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 2: Adam is that follow adam A on X. Coming up

1812
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: in the next segment, we'll get into our college football

1813
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: forecast as the season for all of tents and purposes

1814
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 2: is over. As now we get into the postseason. We

1815
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,839
Speaker 2: have a couple of bowl games coming up later this afternoon.

1816
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: We also have the big Army Navy game. Of course,

1817
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: the big topic d joor is the college football Playoff.

1818
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 2: Who's in and most importantly who was left out?

1819
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 3: Some of us tried to tell you what was going

1820
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 3: to happen last week, but yo, some people didn't want

1821
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 3: to listen.

1822
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people now, damn it. Yeah, some people was

1823
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: me because far beer from me to listen to go

1824
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: back and use precedent on what the committee used to

1825
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 2: do and how they used to put people in and

1826
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: determine who qualifies and who doesn't. But the metric, But

1827
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess that the goalpost move every single.

1828
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 3: Year, especially you keep expanding it like this. Who knows

1829
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: what they'll do next?

1830
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 4: So far beer from me?

1831
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, I expected you to do something that you've been

1832
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: doing this whole time, and you didn't do it.

1833
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 3: You expected them to be logic and rational, Kevin, how

1834
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: dare you?

1835
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 5: You know?

1836
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: I just expect you to be consistent? Like, how about that?

1837
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: That's all I asked for. But we'll get into that

1838
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: coming up in the next segment. Coming up. Now, we've

1839
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: got to continue the NFL six pack.

1840
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 4: What do we have?

1841
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 7: Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh christ I'm so sorry.

1842
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 3: It is the old Troy epic fail potential game here. Yes,

1843
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 3: I got something for you.

1844
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 4: Okay, what do you got.

1845
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 3: I'm not saying, you know, the Eagles are going to

1846
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 3: lose it home to the Raiders, but I am saying

1847
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 3: if they don't cover the eleven and a half points,

1848
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 3: that's basically a loss. Let me explain. The Raiders' new

1849
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 3: win is just covering the line. If you saw what

1850
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 3: happened at the end of the game last week against Denver.

1851
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: No, that was pure strategy. Was for the confidence of

1852
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 2: the team. They have to make sure they kicked a

1853
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 2: field goal towards the end. I'm just talking about.

1854
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 3: See, the Raiders have convinced themselves there's another game being

1855
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 3: played out there, and it doesn't involve actual wins with

1856
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: the final score of the stadium. That's for the casuals.

1857
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Raiders are gambling either, but I

1858
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: am saying they now consider it an actual win internally

1859
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 3: if they just cover the points they're getting as underdogs

1860
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 3: every single week. After all, they are the team from Vegas.

1861
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 3: It honestly should count in the standings a win if

1862
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,520
Speaker 3: they just cover the points spread.

1863
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 4: That cost some of their draft position.

1864
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: Adam, don't do that.

1865
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, you're right, you're right. You gotta think

1866
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 3: two steps ahead. But that was the type of energy

1867
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: I saw last week from the Raiders when they were

1868
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 3: down ten at their own forty one twenty six seconds

1869
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,520
Speaker 3: left at home against the Denver Broncos with no timeouts.

1870
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 3: And I haven't seen a hurry up offense like this

1871
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 3: since the days of hitting fast forward. While watching Raiders

1872
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 3: games up in NorCal and we had a little bit

1873
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 3: of equity build up on the TiVo. The Raiders were

1874
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 3: moving Kevin like they were all Bo Jackson or James

1875
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 3: Jet to get to the line of scrimmage and spike

1876
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 3: the ball with sixteen seconds left. Again, they were down ten.

1877
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: The game is over. There is no reason to try

1878
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: this hard now unless they thought about the game within

1879
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 3: the game, and that game could still be won by

1880
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 3: covering the seven and a half points the Broncos were

1881
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 3: favored by. So Kenny Pickett, who's starting this week, rolls

1882
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 3: out findes Tyler Lockett for twenty six yards with four

1883
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 3: seconds left in Denver's thirty three, and somehow Lockett sells

1884
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 3: it that Broncos safety Brandon Jones intentionally would not let

1885
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 3: him up so they could get towards the line of

1886
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 3: scrimmage and spike the ball again. Like, first of all,

1887
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 3: who cares the game is over? Why are we playing

1888
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 3: this hard? All of a sudden, Raiders? But they called

1889
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: de lay a game on Brandon Jones. So now the

1890
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 3: Raiders have the ball in the twenty six yard line. Well,

1891
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,799
Speaker 3: they're down ten, they got one play left in them.

1892
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: You just getna kneel or throw it up to the

1893
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 3: end zone for funzies. No should well. Instead, they kicked

1894
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 3: the field goal to only lose by seven. When the

1895
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 3: line was Denver minus seven and a half. The Raiders covered,

1896
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 3: and I think in their mind they felt like they won. Yo.

1897
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 3: The Raiders think because their team is in Vegas that

1898
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 3: if they cover the points they should get a full

1899
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 3: win in the standings. I'm telling you, Pete Carroll got

1900
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 3: like a bubblegum flavored gatorade shower after that, and they

1901
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 3: might try to do that against the Eagles now this

1902
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,839
Speaker 3: week too. Like, people gotta stop this. Stop the Raiders

1903
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 3: from covering, because when they cover, they feel like they

1904
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 3: have won. In fact, they still think they're having a

1905
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 3: winning season because if you look at them against the spread,

1906
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 3: well they're five and eight and they got four games left.

1907
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 3: If they cover all four games, that's a winning season.

1908
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 3: In their mind, they will be nine and eight on

1909
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 3: the year. The Vegas team really thinks they just have

1910
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 3: to cover and that equals a win in the standings. Kevin,

1911
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 3: how far the Raiders have fallen.

1912
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 4: I don't think that that's wholly accurate at all.

1913
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 2: I can't speak to what the thinking was and Pete

1914
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: Carrold deciding to have Daniel Carls and kick that field goal.

1915
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: But let's just say maybe the old Al Davis red

1916
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 2: phones of the sideline still works and somebody upstairs had

1917
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: a little action on the game.

1918
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 3: Okay, if you know what I mean, all right, I'll

1919
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 3: keep the torch lit for al and keep covering spreads,

1920
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 3: I guess because they can't actually win games, but they

1921
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 3: can cover.

1922
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: Yes, they can. All right, So I'm gonna go with

1923
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: my old Troy epic fail potential and I'm gonna go

1924
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: to a game that you talked about a little bit earlier,

1925
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 2: and it involves your favorite team, Adam Carolina Panthers. Oh

1926
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 2: yeah they oh yeah, because Tyler shug Hat the Bucks

1927
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: shook last week, put off one of the bigger upsets

1928
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: of the season. I know Tampa Bay has been playing

1929
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: more recently. Saints are bereft of talent as any team

1930
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 2: in the league this season, but they put it on

1931
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: a pretty good and I'll say this too of New Orleans,

1932
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 2: Bri you can back me up on this. You watch

1933
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 2: this terrible team every single week. You know, one of

1934
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: the signs of whether a coach is actually has the

1935
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 2: ear of the locker room is the effort they show

1936
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 2: in a weekend and week out basis. It's not everything,

1937
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: but it is something. And one thing you can say

1938
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 2: about the New Orleans Saints is they haven't quit on

1939
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore. And I will say this full disclosure, I

1940
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 2: was not a fan of the higher I thought he

1941
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: was a little overrated as an offensive coordinator and not

1942
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 2: the best option to be a head coach. But so far,

1943
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 2: at the very least, he has the edge when it

1944
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: comes to keeping his locker room motivated, So I'll give

1945
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: him that. So they played the role of spoiler last

1946
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: week for Tampa, who really needed that game, and then

1947
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: subsequently lost again against Atlanta on Thursday night. You know, so,

1948
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 2: now the Saints come.

1949
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 3: Again at him helping out the Panthers. Baby, they absolutely did.

1950
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Now the Saints have a great chance to steiny Carolina's

1951
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 2: efforts to keep pace with the Bucks.

1952
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 4: Let us stay ahead of the Bucks.

1953
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yes. Now, look by the way, and Adam,

1954
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know this. Panthers and Bucks still play

1955
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: each other twice. Yeah, but these inner Division games matter

1956
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 2: when it comes to ty Bricker scenarios if nothing else.

1957
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 2: And by the way, let's not bring up a bad memory.

1958
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: You remember this, Adam, because you brought it up earlier.

1959
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: You realize that one of the saints three wins came

1960
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: against Carolina.

1961
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, in Carolina.

1962
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: Tyler Shugg had one of his best performances in this

1963
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: season in Carolina, and.

1964
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 3: I swiftly disowned them after that loss. The pans of.

1965
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: His passes two hundred and eighty two yards, a couple

1966
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: of touchdown passes, no turnovers. So, Adam, I'm telling you,

1967
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: do not get your hopes up. I know you're excited now.

1968
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 2: Carolina got themselves in the first place by sitting on

1969
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: their asses and not doing anything on Thursday night. It

1970
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: can all come crumbling down when the future Hall of

1971
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Famer Tyler shug rows in to New Orleans and puts

1972
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 2: it on the Carolina Panthers yet again.

1973
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 4: I can absolutely see.

1974
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 3: It happening now. I'm shook, but I do want to

1975
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 3: shout out Gunner Thomas, who has full leaf in this

1976
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers squad and actually predicted them being the Rams

1977
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. And he's been tweeting at me.

1978
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 3: He said, no leaving this Panthers team win, lose, or tie,

1979
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 3: Panthers fan till you die.

1980
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 4: At least somebody in the situation feels that way.

1981
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 2: Not at him.

1982
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm very loyal.

1983
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 4: Oh, just jumping off the bandwagon on and off. It's ridiculous.

1984
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 3: Look, it's an ownership thing. It's not my fault. I

1985
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 3: have leeway here, all right, what's up next?

1986
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: Mark under the microscope.

1987
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: So I got this Chiefs Chargers game under the microscope.

1988
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 3: Why because the Chargers are not out of the woods yet,

1989
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs aren't fully eliminated from the playoffs yet.

1990
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 3: You have to put that steak through the heart. You

1991
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 3: have to make Taylor Swift cry and write a breakup

1992
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 3: song about the Chiefs dynasty breaking up before it's over.

1993
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 3: Then it's official. They still could win out with games

1994
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 3: at home against the Chargers this week, and again it's

1995
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,919
Speaker 3: Denver and they need road wins over the Raiders and Titans.

1996
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 4: Well that's not happening, so come on, come on.

1997
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 3: No, it's possible they could wake up win the next

1998
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 3: four if they do it, depending on what help happens elsewhere.

1999
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 3: But the math says they got about fifty percent chance

2000
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 3: of making the playoffs if they went out. It is

2001
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 3: not over for case. And honestly, I don't think the

2002
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 3: Chargers beat him this week. They don't have an offensive line.

2003
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't mean like they don't have their starters or

2004
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 3: they're just bad. They don't have an offensive line. Justin

2005
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 3: Herbert snaps the ball to himself, runs backwards. It's backyard football,

2006
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 3: and just he's got the arm strength to still make

2007
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 3: accurate throws, but he's gonna get rocked probably a few

2008
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 3: times in this ball game. I got the Chiefs winning

2009
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: over the Chargers at home in Kansas City and keeping

2010
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 3: their playoff homes alive. But that's my under the microscope game, Kevin.

2011
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 4: They better to be honest with you.

2012
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: The Charges offensive line is weak, but the Chiefs pass

2013
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 2: rush is just as weak save for Chris Jones upfront.

2014
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 2: So we'll see exactly how that and and that Charger

2015
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 2: defense is really tough against the Kansas City offense, like

2016
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: Greg co Sale told us as was struggling. So I

2017
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: think Kansas City wins too. This is one of those

2018
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: franchises I just can't see until they get eliminated mathematically

2019
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 2: from the postseason. I'm not gonna say that they're done.

2020
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 2: I have to see it to believe it. At that point,

2021
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 2: I'm with you, all right, what's next?

2022
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: Mark redemption round?

2023
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 2: You know what, I didn't even do my under the microscope.

2024
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 4: That's my fault. That's my fault. We'll get to the

2025
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 4: redemption round in a second.

2026
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 2: My under the microscope is actually a Buffalo taking on

2027
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, and I find it interesting. I'm

2028
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 2: not gonna call it a must win for the Bills

2029
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 2: because it's as important of a regular season divisional game

2030
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 2: as you can have without it literally being like the

2031
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 2: NFC or the AFC East Championship game. I'll say, similar

2032
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 2: to people who claim that the Lions window was closed,

2033
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 2: there's noise out there that Buffalo's window is closing. That's ludicrous.

2034
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: When you have a quarterback the caliber of Josh Allen.

2035
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 2: I know he doesn't have the greatest weapons. That's something

2036
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 2: that at Cosell brought up earlier in the show as well,

2037
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 2: but you have someone with that much talent who Daltskin

2038
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 2: Kid is. He's not Travis Kelcey, but for all intents

2039
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 2: and purposes, he is Josh Allen's version of Travis Kelcey.

2040
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 2: Really the best offensive weapon that he has, and he

2041
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: makes a big difference when he's out there, like he

2042
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,799
Speaker 2: did last week against Cincinnati. So obviously a major priority

2043
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 2: for this team in the offseason is to bring in

2044
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: somebody on the outside that can make plays for Josh

2045
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: Allen to make things easier because you're gonna have a

2046
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 2: great quarterback. We talked about this earlier in the show.

2047
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,799
Speaker 2: With Joe Burrow. As great as he is, it certainly

2048
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 2: helps RaSE his ceiling when he has the likes of

2049
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase out there to be able to throw the

2050
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: ball to Josh Allen just has not had that these

2051
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 2: last couple of seasons. Especially all that being said, I

2052
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 2: think we're going to get a great view of what

2053
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: this version of the Bills looks like when they're in

2054
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 2: quote unquote playoff mode, because that has to be their

2055
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 2: mentality as they head into this one against the Patriots.

2056
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 4: By the way, I was a little surprised at.

2057
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 2: This game open with Buffalo as a two point dog,

2058
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, or excuse me, two point

2059
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 2: favorite on the road. Obviously not a large number. It's

2060
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 2: come down to the Bills being favored by one. But

2061
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 2: you would think as dominant as the Patriots have been,

2062
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 2: couple with the inconsistency that Buffalo has shown this season,

2063
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 2: you think the Pats would actually be a two to

2064
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 2: three point favorite coming into this one.

2065
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, that's not the case.

2066
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 3: Seems like they think Buffalo is just more desperate they

2067
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 3: have to win.

2068
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 2: That's kind of my thought, Adam, And that's kind of

2069
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: why I think this is a big one for them,

2070
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: and why I kind of give them the edge. It's

2071
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 2: not always the case in professional sports or any sport really,

2072
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 2: when you say the most desperate team is the one

2073
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 2: that ends up coming up with the victory. But to

2074
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 2: your point, Buffalo is the more desperate team. They need

2075
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 2: this victory more than New England does. So I'm interested

2076
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 2: to see exactly how this Buffalo Bills team performs this

2077
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 2: coming weekend on Sunday against the Patriots.

2078
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 3: Josh Allen may already have some dad strength because I

2079
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 3: thought I saw something earlier that Hailey Steinfeld is pregnant.

2080
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they did the whole video. He's kissing her stomach.

2081
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 2: It's a whole photo op thing. Yeah, yeah, they're they're official.

2082
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:56,799
Speaker 3: Not even married. I can't believe this. My redemption round here.

2083
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 3: They got married, were engaged.

2084
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 4: No, I think they're engaged. I don't know if they're

2085
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 4: married quite yet.

2086
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 3: Now I would agree, I would have been agree, right, Okay,

2087
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 3: they got married in Barbara. That stuff don't count. You

2088
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 3: gotta go to Vegas. Maybe that's the marriages are doesn't

2089
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 3: count either. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm insulting everyone right now.

2090
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 3: Let's insult the Bears instead. My redemption round right here. Actually,

2091
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 3: I guess I'll insult shaduor Sanders. Caleb Williams is about

2092
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 3: to show Chadu or something in Chicago on Sunday after

2093
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 3: they lost Leyton Lambeau. You mentioned it earlier. The Bears.

2094
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 3: They're right in between the Packers and Lions in the

2095
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 3: NFC North standings. There is pressure to win every week.

2096
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 3: That division is up for grabs. They have the Packers again,

2097
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers, and then the Lions. They can't

2098
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 3: slip up against the Browns, who found a way to

2099
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 3: lose the Titans last week. The Bears have all the

2100
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 3: motivation in the world to redeem themselves and the right

2101
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 3: team to do it against. I think should Or was

2102
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 3: impressive last week.

2103
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 1: He was.

2104
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 3: It was also against the worst team in the league,

2105
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 3: at least until the Browns lost to them and took

2106
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 3: that title back to the factory of sadness in Cleveland. Now,

2107
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 3: I know it's cold there. I know Shadure he's the

2108
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,560
Speaker 3: coldest player in the league. He's cool, he's a badass.

2109
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 3: But that Chicago cold is gonna hit different you mentioned

2110
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 3: the weather. It's gonna be ugly there.

2111
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: Minus twenty is what it's gonna feel like.

2112
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 3: Shadure, I'm not sure that's thong weather. I'm not sure

2113
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 3: you can be wearing that. Did you see that picture

2114
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 3: that surfaced? He had He had to answer to his brother,

2115
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 3: what is it?

2116
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 4: Shiloh Chilo Sanders.

2117
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2118
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 3: He does a video call with Shadure to ask him

2119
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,799
Speaker 3: if he was wearing a thong because of a picture

2120
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 3: that came out when he was bent over on the

2121
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 3: field and it did look like a thong, kind of

2122
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 3: that thong, the thlong long wre Cisco. He said, no,

2123
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 3: you knew I had that back injury was tape, That's

2124
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 3: what it was, Okay, but thong gate was real and

2125
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 3: people were asking about this. So in case it's real

2126
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 3: enough that it was truthful, shadeuur dish the thong. Bring

2127
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 3: the long John Thurmals to Chicago. You're gonna need them

2128
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 3: or baby.

2129
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 2: He's just wanted a show of displayed to show that

2130
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 2: he's tough. You know a lot of times guys will

2131
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 2: come out and pregame warmups in the snow and have

2132
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: no shirt on. I don't need any underwear. I don't know, jockstrap.

2133
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 2: I'll just wear me a thong. I'll free not even that,

2134
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: I'll just free ball it out there. I don't need

2135
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 2: anything now.

2136
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 3: I'm free, free people.

2137
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to the Eagles Raiders matchup you

2138
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 2: were talking about earlier when it comes to my redemption round,

2139
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 2: and this is clearly for Philadelphia. So remember early in

2140
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,520
Speaker 2: the season when the Cowboys were a giant siev defensively,

2141
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 2: we said, anytime you had Dallas pop up on your schedule,

2142
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 2: that's a good right game for the opposing offense. I

2143
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 2: feel that's a similar vibe when you play the Las

2144
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders. Now, the Raiders are better defensively than Dallas is,

2145
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 2: but as a team as a whole, the Raiders make

2146
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 2: the Cats look like the seventy two Miami Dolphins. Like,

2147
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna end up. What's going on

2148
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: in Vegas right now. It sounds like Pete Carroll could

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01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 2: end up being a one and done coach, which I'm

2150
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 2: usually not the biggest fan of, but I guess I

2151
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 2: would understand if they decided to blow things up yet

2152
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 2: again for the umpteenth time in five years or whatever.

2153
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 2: It's been. But if you're the Eagles, this has to

2154
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 2: be a get right game for you, even if there

2155
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 2: isn't any real concern about whether you'll win the division

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01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 2: or not. You don't want to be limping into the

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01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 2: postseason just getting by in the skin of your teeth, which,

2158
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 2: by the way, is what they've done all season long.

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01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 2: The Eagles a prime example of a squad that plays

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Speaker 2: either up or down to their competition. And you know what,

2161
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 2: they've had a pretty difficult schedule this season. Not to

2162
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 2: make any excuses, but that's just the fact. But it's

2163
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 2: one thing to lose to a good Bears team that's

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01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 2: on the come, or the Chargers, who are one of

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01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 2: the better teams in the AFC. It'd be a whole

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01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: other level of shame and embarrassment to lose a game.

2167
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 2: Or honestly, you talk about covering the spread, I think

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01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 2: Egals have to cover a spread here. You got to

2169
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: win this game by two touchdowns over the Raiders. You

2170
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 2: have to basically assert your dominance over this woebegone franchise.

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01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to call the Eagles fans unreasonable, but

2172
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 2: when you talk about fan bases that are constantly on

2173
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 2: the edge and teetering of exploding. I don't think it's

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01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 2: unfair to say that they are at the top of

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Speaker 2: the list. An Eagle fan can't deny that. By the way,

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01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 2: you remember Adam so the year they lost the Super

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01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 2: Bowl to the Kansas City Chiefs. They came back that

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01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 2: following season. They started ten to one, they hit a

2179
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: tail spin at the end of the year. They finished

2180
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 2: eleven and six before getting blown out by the Bucks.

2181
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 2: People were calling for Nick Sirianni's head back then he

2182
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 2: had to come back and win the Super Bowl last season,

2183
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 2: or if that might have been a fan revolt for

2184
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 2: people calling for his job. So look easy for me,

2185
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 2: as a Raider fan to sit here and say so, so,

2186
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 2: you're struggling a bit this season. You won the title

2187
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 2: last year. Give them a mulligan. But for the Eagle

2188
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 2: fans the standard is clearly much higher. There is no mulligan.

2189
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 2: You cannot lose to the Raiders. You can't look bad

2190
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 2: against the Raiders. Anything less than thirty four to three

2191
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 2: or something like that is an utter disappointment at this

2192
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 2: point in time, and for all the Raider fans, by

2193
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 2: the way, who went crazy, can you picky looking good?

2194
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 2: In garbage time last week. You're gonna see a little

2195
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 2: bit of a different result out there tomorrow when a

2196
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 2: good defense has an entire week to game plan for

2197
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 2: you and they're not just playing prevent with a bunch

2198
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 2: of backups in there.

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Speaker 3: How dare you hate on your Raiders like that? Kevin

2200
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 3: leaving that.

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Speaker 1: To me your heart?

2202
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 3: Let that hate out all right?

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01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 3: You have it the NFL six Pack, and we do

2205
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Speaker 3: want to remind you that every goal starts with an

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Speaker 3: assist on and off the field. That's why Haley On

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Speaker 3: and US Soccer are launching for the Assist, a celebration

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Speaker 3: and Centrum. To learn more, go to Hailey Onassist dot com.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we will get into our college football

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Speaker 2: forecast and then we'll get into tu on two off

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Speaker 2: to round things out. It is Kevin Figures, Adam Austlin

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Speaker 2: fn A on FSR.

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Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 9: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 9: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen. Live, One,

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Speaker 9: Shall Stand, One, Show.

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Speaker 4: Fall Fna Cotton.

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01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 2: Every goal starts with an assist on and off the field.

2221
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 2: That's why heley On and US Soccer are launching for

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Speaker 2: the Assist. It is a celebration of everyday acts of

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Speaker 2: support that helped people achieve their goals with iconic brands

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Speaker 2: like Censoni, Thums, voltairean Adville, and Syndrome.

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Speaker 4: To learn more, go to Haley on assist dot com.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mark, give it to us, give me that forecast.

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Speaker 9: College football forecast with f and Ah Kevin.

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Speaker 3: What do you have to say for yourself?

2229
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this. I'll say I was wrong and

2230
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Adam predicted this perfectly last week with how the college

2231
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 2: football playoff would shakeout based how things were lined up

2232
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 2: if things were to hold, which they did BYU losing

2233
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: the Big twelve championship game Alabama losing the SEC championship game. Now,

2234
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 2: I will say the crux of our debate at the

2235
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 2: time was whether Alabama lost a close game. I said,

2236
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 2: whether they lost closer or they got blown out, it

2237
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't matter. They would have three losses. They would have

2238
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 2: lost the conference championship game. And based on the pass

2239
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,839
Speaker 2: what this committee has done, whether they should or shouldn't

2240
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Speaker 2: because of a giant argument as to whether or not

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01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 2: you know, a team that would otherwise be in at large,

2242
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 2: like Alabama, should be hurt by the fact that they

2243
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 2: play an extra game in the SEC title game, whether

2244
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 2: they should or shouldn't. Historically, teams have been going back

2245
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 2: to the fourteen playoff and last year in the twelve

2246
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 2: team playoff. So based on that theory, I thought of

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01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 2: Alabama lost, they would be out.

2248
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 4: So then when Alabama got run off of the.

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01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Field against Georgia in the SEC Title Game, I thought

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01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,679
Speaker 2: it was a fourgone conclusion that they would be out,

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01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 2: and that still didn't happen.

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01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 4: And not only did it not happen.

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01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 3: They didn't move.

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01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 2: They sat right at number nine, the exact same spot

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Speaker 2: where they were the week before, which is unprecedented, that's

2256
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:00,799
Speaker 2: never happened.

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Speaker 3: You're accurate and accurate in saying that. I thought they

2258
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 3: had to keep it close against Georgia. Otherwise I really

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01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 3: believe they could have put Miami and Notre Dame in

2260
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 3: and not have to make that decision between one or

2261
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 3: the other, and it was gonna be Bama being shut out.

2262
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 3: But they didn't. I did bring up that they had

2263
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:26,759
Speaker 3: already beaten Georgia on the road, so it's a really

2264
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 3: unique three loss team. And it's also Bama. And eventually

2265
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 3: because Buyu loss as you mentioned there badly to Tech,

2266
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 3: it put Miami in Notre Dame right next to one another.

2267
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 3: And once they were there, the committee had to go

2268
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 3: with the head to head victory of Miami.

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01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 2: Well, and see, the committee put themselves in this predicament.

2270
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 2: And this goes back to the argument that you and

2271
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 2: I had and I don't know, I can't. I don't

2272
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 2: know if you were just playing Devil's advocate or you

2273
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 2: truly believe that Notre Dame should have been seven spots

2274
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 2: ahead of Miami when those initial rankings came out.

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01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I was. I was with you. If

2276
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 3: all things are equal, of course it's head to head.

2277
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 2: It has to be, yeah, because and see if they

2278
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 2: had even if they had at that point in time,

2279
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,679
Speaker 2: and think week eleven is what it was, and even

2280
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 2: if Notre Dame in Miami were a spot apart, if

2281
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 2: you wanted to say, based on how they're playing now,

2282
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,560
Speaker 2: we'll give Notre Dame a NOD one spot ahead of

2283
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 2: Miami or something. As the weeks continued to progress. See

2284
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 2: what hurt Miami was the fact that they lost two

2285
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 2: out of three games in the middle of the season,

2286
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 2: whereas Notre Dame lost theirs at the very beginning. Miami

2287
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 2: actually got caught fire and started playing well, and we're

2288
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 2: dominating teams down the stretch, just like Notre Dame was.

2289
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 2: And so I used a sandwich analogy earlier in the show.

2290
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 2: You know, as you had Notre Dame in Miami as

2291
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 2: the bread of a sandwich in the innards, the meat

2292
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 2: kind of got chopped away, and they got closer and

2293
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,480
Speaker 2: closer together. It became a bigger predicament for the committee.

2294
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: The predicament could have been avoided from day one. If

2295
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 2: Miami were ahead of Notre Dame, or even if Notre

2296
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 2: Dame were ahead of Miami by a spot or two

2297
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 2: in week eleven, and by the time we got to

2298
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 2: week fourteen Miami had jumped them, Notre Dame would have

2299
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 2: no calls to plane. See, for me, the argument never

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01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 2: should have been Miami and Notre Dame. The argument should

2301
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 2: have been Notre Dame in Alabama, because Miami was already there.

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01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 2: They already had the upper edge over Notre Dame. This

2303
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 2: never should have been a debate. And if they were

2304
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 2: closer together six weeks ago, like they should have been,

2305
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 2: this would have been a moot.

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01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 3: Would have been a moot point well, and I understand

2307
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's right because they feel like they had the

2308
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 3: rug pulled out from underneath them. They didn't do anything

2309
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 3: all year to Miami, and then the final week they

2310
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 3: jump you. That's on the committee. To me, that was

2311
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 3: an issue because nobody wants to feel like you believe

2312
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 3: in us, we're the better team, and we're both not

2313
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 3: playing this week, So what exactly changed? What change was

2314
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 3: though BYU lost and it put them right next to

2315
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:53,839
Speaker 3: one another.

2316
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 2: They should have been the buffer. That's the problem. They

2317
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 2: never should have been the buffer.

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01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I'm just saying that's what forced

2319
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 3: them eventually to have to make the right decision here.

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01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 3: But you're not wrong. They shouldn't have had Miami so

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01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 3: far back of Notre Dame and they should have jumped them.

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01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 3: I don't know two weeks ago, Yes, and therefore Notre

2323
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 3: Dame wouldn't feel so slided.

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01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can. It's easy to justify the other

2325
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 2: day say, look, we value had to head. You guys

2326
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: lost to them. You guys were neck and neck this

2327
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 2: whole time. If Miami slips up and loses and you

2328
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 2: went out, then you jump them. But absintly that we

2329
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 2: can't justify putting you ahead. I don't think any reasonable

2330
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 2: Notre Dame fan could argue against that. Now, if you

2331
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 2: want to talk, argue between Alabama and Notre Dame, which

2332
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 2: is what it should have been this past weekend when

2333
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:41,839
Speaker 2: they made it had to select you show on Sunday,

2334
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 2: I sided with Alabama because I'm generally more of a

2335
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 2: resume guy than an eyeball test guy. It's like, the

2336
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 2: reason why you play sports is so you can see

2337
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 2: what happens on the field. I try to think as

2338
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 2: much subjectivity out of it as possible. It's really hard

2339
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 2: to do that when you have one hundred and thirty

2340
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 2: you know, Division one teams and eighty five FBS schools

2341
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 2: or whatever it is. Yeah, so you're gonna have to

2342
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:05,560
Speaker 2: start arguing about, you know, who looks better.

2343
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 4: And all that.

2344
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 3: The schedules are too unbalanced, there's not enough uniformity. It's

2345
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 3: also what makes college football great.

2346
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, look, Notre Dame has got credit for two

2347
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 2: close losses. Their only good win was against USC Alabama,

2348
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, beat Georgia on the road, but they

2349
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 2: also beat a very good Vanderbilt team. You know, they

2350
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 2: they they have the resume, They have the rest requisite

2351
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,839
Speaker 2: wins you know on their resume that Notre Dame doesn't.

2352
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 2: So I gotta have to value Alabama's wins more than

2353
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 2: a half to value Notre Dame's losses. And like even

2354
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 2: for people who say, like, well, Alabama didn't look good

2355
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 2: the last month of the season, which they didn't, and

2356
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 2: Alabama got run off for the field in the SEC

2357
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 2: title game, which they did, But I still have to

2358
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 2: hold value to the victories that they had. And Notre

2359
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 2: Dame bludgeoned a bunch of people, but their schedule just

2360
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 2: wasn't strong enough to hold up the other And that's

2361
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 2: the thing that that's why I would have given Alabama

2362
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 2: the not over Notre.

2363
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 3: Dame even with three losses. You still would do it

2364
01:46:58,920 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 3: that way.

2365
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I because I look at the overall resume

2366
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 2: and yes, they have three losses, but their wins are

2367
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 2: better than Notre Dame's wins.

2368
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 3: I think Notre Dame also took a hit because Texas

2369
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 3: A and m ended up losing to Texas, and that

2370
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 3: was one of their close losses to Texas. A and

2371
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,799
Speaker 3: m that was a top three team throughout the majority

2372
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 3: of the season in the college football rankings. That hurt

2373
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 3: him as well. But they shouldn't have had Miami so

2374
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 3: far back to begin with. It was unfortunate. They should

2375
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 3: have had him jump over Notre Dame after they built

2376
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 3: back some momentum after those losses mid season.

2377
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably after the Syracuse win, they probably should have

2378
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 2: had him jump them by a spot. And they just

2379
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 2: kept them neck in neck this entire time. It was

2380
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 2: so easy. I don't know why they had to make

2381
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:45,480
Speaker 2: this thing so difficult on themselves.

2382
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 3: The other thing is they're not in the ACC Championship

2383
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 3: game because it's some dumb ass tiebreakers out there.

2384
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 4: They should have been and that's on the ACC. But

2385
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 4: it's also on.

2386
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 3: Notre Dame for never wanting to join a conference like

2387
01:47:58,520 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 3: the ACC.

2388
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 2: So that's a different thing, Adam, And that's Pete Bavaqua.

2389
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: They're ad who won on this giant media storm, and

2390
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 2: this is his fault out here blaming the ACC for

2391
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 2: favoring Miami. Of course they are ACC. They are in

2392
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 2: the ACC Notre dame. You want to try to have

2393
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 2: your cake and eat it too, and be half in

2394
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 2: and half out. You have this pseudo schedule set up

2395
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 2: when you play a handful of ACC teams every year,

2396
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 2: but you don't want to be a full fledged member. Well,

2397
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 2: if you're not gonna be a full fledged member, you're

2398
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 2: not gonna get the perk like having an extra data

2399
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 2: point in the case that you needed, like you would

2400
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 2: have had in this situation. If you win the ACC

2401
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 2: championship game, it's moot you make it in. But you

2402
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 2: want to be an independent. This is what comes with independence.

2403
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes it doesn't break your way. Sorry, people of Aqua.

2404
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 2: This is what you signed up for if you want

2405
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 2: to be in the ACC. If you want to get

2406
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 2: an automatic bid for a Power four conference, then damn it.

2407
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 4: Joined the ACC.

2408
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 3: Okay, do it? I'm with you. The real issue though,

2409
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 3: to me, that could fix all of this, But I

2410
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 3: don't know if it's fixable or correctable. Why is too

2411
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 3: Lane and James Madison in Yeah, we know what it's

2412
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 3: gonna happen. We know what's gonna happen. Yeah, like this

2413
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 3: is unnecessary, we know what's gonna happen, and honestly, it

2414
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 3: could be a disservice to them. I know it's a

2415
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 3: big deal making it, but then if they get smoked

2416
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 3: like James Madison's going to at Austin by Oregon, it's

2417
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 3: a bad look to me. That's that's the real gribe.

2418
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 3: How do you change this because otherwise Notre Dame's in,

2419
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 3: BYU's in.

2420
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 2: Yep, I b y you as an argument too, I

2421
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 2: think Vanderbilt has an argument, to be honest with you. Yeah,

2422
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 2: there's plenty of teams that have that that that were

2423
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 2: left out in the cold and it's unfortunate and like

2424
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 2: all power digit to JMU and Tulane. Sure. What I

2425
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 2: think the solution should be, and I've heard this thrown

2426
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 2: out here this week, is maybe there's a threshold we

2427
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 2: know when we have to hold the New Year's Six

2428
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,759
Speaker 2: Bowl set up Before the twelve team playoff was created,

2429
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 2: you had to fall with that. I think you had

2430
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 2: to be ranked in the top twenty in order to

2431
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 2: be eligible for a New Year's Six Bowl, regardless of

2432
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 2: what your conference affiliation or conference championship status was. Maybe

2433
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 2: there needs to be a threshold put into the rules

2434
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,719
Speaker 2: here for the twelve team playoff whether you're a Group

2435
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 2: of five or a power four doesn't matter. You need

2436
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 2: to be ranked inside the top fifteen in order to

2437
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 2: be eligible to be a playoff team. Because if that

2438
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 2: were the case, Two Lane JMU wouldn't make it. And

2439
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 2: that doesn't completely shut out the Group of six because

2440
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 2: Boise State was a Group of six team. They were

2441
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 2: in the top fifteen last year, they would have easily

2442
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,680
Speaker 2: made it. In another solution that people have brought up,

2443
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 2: maybe it's not fair, but I think it gets us

2444
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 2: to prevent these situations because to your point, JMU and

2445
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 2: probably two Lane two are probably both gonna get dominated.

2446
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 2: Why not have the G five bid or the G

2447
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 2: six once the PAC twelve is back yet next year,

2448
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 2: just have a play in game four. It so the

2449
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 2: automatic bid for the G five, there's gonna be whoever

2450
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 2: the two highest ranked G six teams are, they play

2451
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 2: each other, one of those teams makes it into the playoff,

2452
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 2: and a Power four team makes it in.

2453
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 3: I know this is unrealistic because the money's too big,

2454
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 3: but I really like the twelve team format. I think

2455
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 3: the numbers right because it still gives you a little

2456
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,839
Speaker 3: bit of controversy at the very end to talk about.

2457
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 3: But if there was no two lane, if there was

2458
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 3: no James Madison, then Notre Dame's getting in, BYU's getting in,

2459
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,679
Speaker 3: and Texas and Vanderbilt are the two teams being left

2460
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 3: out that are closest that just didn't get in. But

2461
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel that bad form I would have felt

2462
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:21,799
Speaker 3: like they got it right now.

2463
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 4: For selfish reasons.

2464
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Vandy being now because I think

2465
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 2: it's a great story with Diego Pavia. When Clark Lee's

2466
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 2: done down there, I have to see them again.

2467
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 4: It would be great.

2468
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 2: I as someone who was very anti expansionist, I think

2469
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 2: we would talk about this on the podcast for years.

2470
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 2: I was like, I thought the perfect number was six,

2471
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 2: and you can maybe twist marm and give me to

2472
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,600
Speaker 2: eight or ten. After seeing this, I'll be honest with you,

2473
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm actually fully in favor of doing sixteen. I'm fully

2474
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 2: in favor of the Big Ten's proposal of automatic qualifiers

2475
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 2: and having an ex and basically only having the last

2476
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 2: three or four spots being selected by the committee. If

2477
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 2: you were to do that this year, then you would

2478
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 2: have Notre Dame, Vandy, BYU, Utah and USC ALL would

2479
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 2: have made the cut and talking about the argument at

2480
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 2: the back end of May, who would have made it

2481
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 2: and who wouldn't have would have been between the likes

2482
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 2: of Utah, USC, Michigan, Arizona and Virginia. Well, this there's

2483
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 2: an argument to be made there, but people are not

2484
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 2: going to be as up in arms as they would

2485
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 2: be for twelve.

2486
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 3: We'll get to sixteen. But if when we do, anytime

2487
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 3: you expand it, what I need to see is more

2488
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 3: heavyweights matching up. Yes, because then there will be more

2489
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 3: three loss teams getting in. But schedule bravely, go out there,

2490
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 3: give us great games because you can afford a loss.

2491
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 3: That's what it needs to be.

2492
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the spirit of that expanded playoff is

2493
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 2: supposed to be. Because so many teams were scared and

2494
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 2: the SEC chief among them, were scared to schedule out

2495
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,599
Speaker 2: out of conference. They don't want to get an extra

2496
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 2: they don't want to get an extra conference loss, and

2497
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 2: they schedule these cupcakes at the end of the season

2498
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 2: because they value just having an extra win on their

2499
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 2: ledger versus who you play against. Now, this committee said

2500
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 2: going into the season they're going to change their metric.

2501
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 2: They were going to actually value who you played, and

2502
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 2: I think that's what actually ended up helping Notre Dame

2503
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 2: to a certain degree. Those two close losses helped ending

2504
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 2: up carrying them to the end of the season until

2505
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 2: it ultimately didn't matter, which again shouldn't have. We're talking

2506
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 2: about being debated against the team that actually beat you

2507
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 2: head to head.

2508
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 3: But Texas's argument is we are our three loss team

2509
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 3: because we went on the road to face Ohio State

2510
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,799
Speaker 3: in Game one the National champions and we're being punished

2511
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 3: for that. We finished thirteenth, and I get it, but

2512
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 3: I would still argue, no, no, no, no, no, you're being

2513
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 3: punished to me for losing the floor, for going into

2514
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 3: double overtime and getting buy off the skin of your

2515
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 3: teeth against really bad teams. That's why you're not getting in.

2516
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 3: But they're still holding on to that argument, and I

2517
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 3: see it, and other teams will make that. So maybe

2518
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 3: if you do expand to sixteen, we won't have to

2519
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 3: worry so much about teams being timid about playing other

2520
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,799
Speaker 3: heavyweights because they know they can afford more losses. Therefore,

2521
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 3: we get better matchups overall, which is I mean, that's

2522
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 3: what everybody wants. That pleases everyone.

2523
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, to a certain degree.

2524
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 2: You're never gonna be able to please everybody, but you'll

2525
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 2: be able to please the general masses if you do

2526
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:13,680
Speaker 2: something like that.

2527
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

2528
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 2: By the way, if we're talking the Heisman Trophy is

2529
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 2: gonna be awarded later today, that's most likely going to

2530
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 2: Fernanda Mendoza. Usually the Maxwell Award is a precursor, you know,

2531
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 2: to who's gonna win the Heisman. Not always, but most

2532
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 2: of the time that's the case. And he did win

2533
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 2: that on Friday night, So he's gonna end up winning

2534
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy most likely.

2535
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 3: He deserves it. And to me, the Heisman moment and

2536
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 3: people are saying, oh, it happened against Ohio State. To me,

2537
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 3: it happened in Oregon. He throws the pick and then

2538
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 3: comes right back and drives down the field for the

2539
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 3: go ahead touchdown. I couldn't be more impressed. That performance,

2540
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 3: to me, was incredible.

2541
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 4: Part of me.

2542
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: We kind of had this debate when we talked about

2543
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 2: the American League MVP race between cal Rally and Era

2544
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 2: Judge and if the narrative should help carry you to

2545
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 2: winning that individual award from when it comes to cal Rally,

2546
01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 2: to a certain degree, I would understand of Diego Pop

2547
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 2: got a little bit of love and won the award.

2548
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 2: The narrative of what Vanderbilt was able to do that

2549
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 2: program is never won to never sniffed a ten win season,

2550
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 2: never sniffed the guy having that sort of bravado on

2551
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 2: confidence and infusing that into a team like that. So

2552
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 2: I think I would not I would be surprised, to

2553
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 2: be honest, if he won, But I do think he

2554
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 2: should be very close in the running at the top

2555
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 2: of the heap, and I actually kind of want him

2556
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 2: to win the award, to be honest with I think

2557
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 2: it'd be pretty cool to see the quarterback at Vanderbilt,

2558
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 2: of all schools. Not that Indiana wouldn't be just as impressive,

2559
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 2: but to see the quarterback at Vanderbilt, an sec bottom

2560
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 2: feeder throughout their entire existence, to be able to win

2561
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy, I think will be a pretty cool achievement.

2562
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 3: You're right, except for one thing. Skip Bayless went to Vandy,

2563
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 3: and I can't see him happening.

2564
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Speaker 2: Every goal starts with an assist on and off the field.

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Speaker 2: That's why Haley On and US Soccer are launching for

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Speaker 2: the Assist, a celebration of everyday acts of support that

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Speaker 2: Tomas Voltaire and Ed Villin Sentrum to learn more, Ago

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Speaker 3: Mark final segment here, I don't even feel like doing it,

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01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 3: but we have to.

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01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 1: Two on to on.

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01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 4: I don't understand. Why don't you want to do it?

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01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 4: That's what happened, Kevin? What I mean?

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01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 3: We have an update on two on two off before

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01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 3: we pick two favorites every week and two underdogs every

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01:56:58,840 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 3: week in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So I was.

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01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 3: Feeling pretty good about myself after going three and one

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Speaker 3: last week.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good.

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01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 3: Only problem is Kevin also went three and one, hope

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01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 3: for real, so I gained no ground. Do not pass, go,

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01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 3: do not collect two hundred dollars. I'm twenty eight and

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01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 3: twenty eight and he's FN thirty one and twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you're right, You're in Jeff Fisher status right there. Right, Well,

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01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 2: I guess that's seven and nine, so you're better. So

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01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 2: it's even better. See it's looking up for you, Adam.

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Speaker 3: First of all, the records are receiving. I'm only three

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01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 3: games back of Kevin, but I've been three games back

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01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 3: of him for like two months now, and I can't

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01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 3: gain any ground. I have a good week, he has

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01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:41,800
Speaker 3: a good week. He has a bad week. I have

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01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 3: a bad week.

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01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 4: Two steps forward, one step back.

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Speaker 3: One kick in the ass. Look right, how many weeks

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Speaker 3: we have left? I?

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Speaker 9: What?

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01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 3: Four? I believe I might have to get freaky with it,

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01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 3: all right, for some evasive action here?

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01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 2: All right? Okay, well, how evasive are you looking? So

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01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 2: let's give me an on? What's your first on for

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01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 2: this week?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna wait till I got yours.

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Speaker 4: Well, of course you are.

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01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 3: All right? All right? My first on? I like some

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01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 3: Moms this week, I gotta choose between three here, and

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01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 3: I did give my cast time to choose for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Seahawks minus thirteen and a

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Speaker 3: half over the Colts at home.

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Speaker 4: I don't give you damn Rivers.

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01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 3: Huh, I don't age is just a number, is right?

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01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 3: He's more experienced. Yeah, five years ago he sucked, as

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01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 3: Greg co Sell said, he couldn't throw the football. Then

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01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 3: what's gonna change now against that defense? Good luck?

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Speaker 2: My first on, I'm going with the Houston Texans favored

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01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 2: by nine and a half over the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Cardinals are terrible.

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Speaker 2: Texans offense still a bit of an issue where their

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Speaker 2: defense is dominant. Like Greg Cosale told us, this defense

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Speaker 2: might score fourth points by itself against Arizona. So I

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Speaker 2: got Houston covering the nine and a half points spread

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Speaker 2: over Arizona. All right.

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Speaker 3: My other pick on a favorite the Bears the Bears.

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Speaker 3: The Bears, the Bears Bears minus seven. I put seven

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Speaker 3: point six. I think it's seven and a half. I

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01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 3: think it's it's minus seven and a half over the

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Speaker 3: Browns at home. I like the Bears bouncing back. Ben

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Speaker 3: Johnson's been amazing Caleb Williams. I kind of understood what

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01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 3: he was saying postgame about that last throw. He wanted

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01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 3: to give his guy a chance. Yeah, he didn't want

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01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 3: to overthrow him. He just underthrew him way too much.

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01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 3: But I like the Bears bouncing back minus seven and

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01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:39,480
Speaker 3: a half at home over the Browns.

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01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 4: That's actually one of my offs.

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Speaker 2: I actually have the Bears of the Browns, excuse me,

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01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 2: covering the seven and a half points spread.

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Speaker 4: So you got you have a separator right there at him.

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Speaker 3: I needed this.

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Speaker 2: My other on, I have the Rams minus six over

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Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. I know I've been a big supporter

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01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,400
Speaker 2: of the Lions, but just too banged up on defense.

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01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: The Rams offense is an absolute machine in that young

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01:59:58,160 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 2: defense continuing to play well after they ran Arizona off

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Speaker 2: the field last week.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they run.

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Speaker 2: The Lions off the field, but I definitely think they

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Speaker 2: covered the six point spread.

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Speaker 3: All right, to the offs, off of favorites on to

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Speaker 3: the underdogs. Yes, I got Cincinnati plus three at home.

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Speaker 3: I know Joe Burrow's being a little bit MOPy. He's

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02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 3: not having fun.

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Speaker 4: You will be too if you were running for your life.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just expect everyone to rally around him. And

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Speaker 3: they already beat the Baltimore Ravens once. I think they

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Speaker 3: can do it again, or at least just not lose

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Speaker 3: by more than three. Since he plus three, yeah, possible.

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Speaker 2: My other off I already told you at the Browns

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Speaker 2: covering the seven and a half points bread to Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I also have the Chargers five and a half point

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Speaker 2: underdogs against the Chiefs. I do think the Chiefs win.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not going to count them out

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02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 2: until they're absolutely done, but I do think the Chargers

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02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 2: find the way to keep this close. I see this

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02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 2: game being decided by a field goal. All right.

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Speaker 3: My final off then New England plus a point and

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02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 3: a half at home against the Bills.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, good luck to you, Adam, thanks to Mark,

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Speaker 2: Things to Bree, Thanks than you guys for listening project

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Speaker 2: and Ila is.

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Speaker 4: Next here on Fox Sports Radio

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