WEBVTT - Blood and Guts Delivers

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 2>Live from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's Tuesday, Thursday here on the show. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday because last night was Wednesday. Nights AW Blood, Guts, Dynamite,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh well, whatever you want to say about a

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<v Speaker 1>when they advertise something, they deliver, and they delivered blood

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<v Speaker 1>and they delivered guts and Violence is probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>violent wrestling television show that has ever aired on national television.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully everybody is alive today, but we'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>all about that. A lot of things happen on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we've got a bunch of injury updates and

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<v Speaker 1>health updates. Everybody from Jim Ross, Bianca bell Air, Queen Amana,

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Flair, Buddy Matthews a lot to talk about. We

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<v Speaker 1>also have a location for Elimination Chamber twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>We got some WW and NXT wrestlers heading down to

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<v Speaker 1>Triple A. We got some ratings notes, SmackDown and Collision

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Styles update. For those of you that remember a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months ago, he did this weird promo and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was talking about it was off air, but of

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<v Speaker 1>course it ended up online and he explained it on

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast, So we'll tell you what he said and

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, and then of course we've got the full

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<v Speaker 1>Blood and Guts TV report. Philthy Tom is going to

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<v Speaker 1>In the show, Bryan Elvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live. Felthy

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Lawler is joining us here today. What's up Tom?

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<v Speaker 4>Not too much? It's another day.

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<v Speaker 1>Any news about you today? You want to talk about her? No? No, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well we got a bunch of injury updates here.

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<v Speaker 1>How's your injury?

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<v Speaker 4>Still injured?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, But like, how mobile are you now?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do jumping jacks yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I could do so, I think so are.

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<v Speaker 1>You not trying any jumping jacks lately?

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<v Speaker 4>I could do a stanky leg?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you can you swing them kettlebells yet?

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<v Speaker 4>I've kind of stayed away. Really, I could do other

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<v Speaker 4>I do other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You were big.

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<v Speaker 4>I get up and I walk. Hey, you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>don't stop moving guys.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't got the cameo for me yet, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it can be life changing. Just ask Tom.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was asked for advice on what someone could do

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<v Speaker 1>when they were injured, and I gave that advice about

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<v Speaker 1>walking and Tom ridiculed me. But now he's seen the

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<v Speaker 1>light as he walks all the time. Fw online on cameo.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm walk off the air if you continue this.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? Tom? Does anyone else check

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<v Speaker 1>on you regularly? Except for TJP? No, it's me and him.

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<v Speaker 1>You're best friends. That's it, all right, Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all the other news of injuries and pain and such.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first one we got to talking about is Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Ross because it appears this one is the most serious,

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<v Speaker 1>so he did say on his podcast. He returned to

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<v Speaker 1>his podcast on Wednesday. He noted he finished selling his

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<v Speaker 1>condo with Jacksonville's back in Oklahoma. Longtime home, Happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be home. He said he's feeling better health wise, and

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<v Speaker 1>he has in a long time. His daughters are close

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<v Speaker 1>by able to help him out. He says, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>healthier than I felt in a long time, got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of energy, Thankful to be back on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Signed a one year contract over the summer. He said

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<v Speaker 1>in the next few weeks he's going to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy for that opportunity, and he did say a few

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<v Speaker 1>months ago. At this time, I wasn't so sure about

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<v Speaker 1>the outcome. But here I am, and here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have a great, great year of podcasting. I

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<v Speaker 1>can promise you that he did another. I've actually got

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<v Speaker 1>the tweet here, I can find it. This is actually

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<v Speaker 1>this is from Wrestling Purists, but this was from his podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I'm better. I feel better today that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in a long time, feel good, feeling healthier than

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<v Speaker 1>I felt in a long time, plenty of energy. Life

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<v Speaker 1>is good, life is good. I'm alive. A few months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>at this time, I was not so sure about the outcome,

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<v Speaker 1>but here I am. Apparently there was a close call

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<v Speaker 1>a few months ago, and I don't know anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, but apparently it was. I was just told

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<v Speaker 1>a close call, so a really close call actually, So

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<v Speaker 1>all the best of JR. I'm glad he's feeling better

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<v Speaker 1>and he should be back on the air soon. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's had obviously a lot of health problems. Buddy's made

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<v Speaker 1>it through and he's on his way back. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the update on Jim Ross. Also, since people have been

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<v Speaker 1>asking Bianca bell Air is still out of action, where's

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<v Speaker 1>Bianca bell Air been people asked, well, she's hurt. She

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<v Speaker 1>was in the three way with Ria and EO at WrestleMania.

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<v Speaker 1>That was April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November.

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<v Speaker 1>That was seven months ago. And they did some spot

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess EO did a moon salt or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, or they did a Actually I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing one of those stacked up superplex deals and

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<v Speaker 1>Rhea landed on her hand and crushed everything in her finger.

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<v Speaker 1>She said. She said, it's been a crazy journey being

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<v Speaker 1>an athlete, having an injury or lying in your body.

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<v Speaker 1>My body's not doing what it's supposed to do. Hoping

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<v Speaker 1>I could be back in the ring soon, but she

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<v Speaker 1>broke her knuckle, broke the joint, something they thought would

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<v Speaker 1>be straightforward. But it has now been seven months, so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully she can come back soon. But that sucks, Brian.

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<v Speaker 4>I have also actually had a similar injury in the

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<v Speaker 4>past where I shattered my knuckle into one hundred pieces

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<v Speaker 4>punching somebody. Yeah, I was in a fight, but the

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<v Speaker 4>recovery process for that was awful comparatively to some of

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<v Speaker 4>the under injuries I've had that were you would think

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<v Speaker 4>would be much more severe just because of the amount

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<v Speaker 4>of nerve endings in your hand. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 4>more sensitive parts of your body. And when if she

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<v Speaker 4>had a similar fracture to what I had, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a hundred different bones that have to heal together. They

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<v Speaker 4>without some you know, crazy surgery. Sometimes it just takes

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<v Speaker 4>a long time for this process. So it's like it's

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<v Speaker 4>like turf toe, you know, it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 4>that you're like, there's no way this could hurt that bad,

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<v Speaker 4>But when you have it.

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<v Speaker 1>For a decade, awful.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've had it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Sucks. I don't even know if I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>just turf toe and now it's just arthritic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think my toe is ever gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>same again. Sucks.

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<v Speaker 4>How'd you find something small enough to stub your toe on?

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the mat, It's eighty by eighty. It was

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<v Speaker 1>plenty big enough to stub my toe. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>stub it. I didn't even do anything. I came home

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually I remember I was just like on

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<v Speaker 1>the man, I went, why's my toe hurt? And then

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<v Speaker 1>it just never it never didn't hurt again after that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know how jammed it jammed or it bent funny

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, just got old? What did Granny always say?

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<v Speaker 1>Getting old is the pits. Queen Amanada did an interview

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<v Speaker 1>on her volog I guess it's not really an interview,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, I cried my eyes out. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room right now. I was not cleared because

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<v Speaker 1>my neck is so tight, can't even move it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Because of this, I got taken out of

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<v Speaker 1>the match today ad I'm out of blood and gut

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<v Speaker 1>safety first, rather be out two to three weeks than

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<v Speaker 1>six months. So she didn't say how she got it,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently in one of the matches she jammed her

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<v Speaker 1>neck up. Can't even turn her head, and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>where Queen Amenada was. And then Rick Flair was advertised

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<v Speaker 1>for Dynamite and Rick Flair did make an appearance before

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<v Speaker 1>the live crowd and then went home. Apparently he very

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<v Speaker 1>recently injured his rotator cuff. Nobody really knows how. Dave

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it might have been a fall, which is Rick Flair.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's done a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Could have been doing planks at the bar. Yes, I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen videos. If I'm doing that recently, so maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he tore it working out well.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in a sling backstage, he took the sling off,

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<v Speaker 1>came out in front of the crowds. They wouldn't se

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<v Speaker 1>him with a sling on, did a promo and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then left. Actually, he's had a lot of rotator

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<v Speaker 1>CUF problems his entire career, actually, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be in that FTR segment and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>at the last minute Ricky Steamboat was given twice the

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<v Speaker 1>material because whatever it was, that segment that was rough.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a rough segment. But he did do a

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<v Speaker 1>nice comeback. Oh, Ricky.

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<v Speaker 4>Pulled it together.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think about the Ricky Steamboat FTR segment?

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<v Speaker 4>I did not think it was Ricky Steamboat's best work

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<v Speaker 4>at first. I thought, like, was he in the back

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<v Speaker 4>partying and they pulled him at the last minute to

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<v Speaker 4>go do this segment. But he went out there and

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<v Speaker 4>he got through it. He like he said, he did

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<v Speaker 4>his comeback. I was kind of laughing almost the entire time.

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<v Speaker 4>It looked like he was like asking Tony questions while

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<v Speaker 4>he was out there. Looks like he's asking FTR questions

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<v Speaker 4>about what he's supposed to do. It was bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>He was carried through a segment maybe for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in his career. Usually it's the other way around.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a rough one.

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<v Speaker 4>A stark contrast to what we normally see from Ricky Steamboat,

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<v Speaker 4>where he is like the best legend that you could

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<v Speaker 4>bring out.

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy Matthews also is still injured. He got hurt in

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<v Speaker 1>a mansion Brisbane against Okada where essentially he vaulted into

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<v Speaker 1>the ring over the top rope, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently Ricky Steamboat did and we never saw it. He

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<v Speaker 1>like vaulted over the top rope into the ring for

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<v Speaker 1>his entrance. So Buddy Matthews did this and he he

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<v Speaker 1>suffered ligament and cartilage damage and then rustled thirteen minutes

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<v Speaker 1>on it with Okadau And that was I mean forever ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He was expecting to heal quickly, but instead it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>and in August he had to go undergo surgery again

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he's just now able to do the

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<v Speaker 1>hack squad. So yeah, rough, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Cage. Brian Cage went through another surgery yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 4>was talking to him last.

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<v Speaker 1>Nime, was it yesterday? He did it. I knew he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do another one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think he's in the hospital. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if he already got it done, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, all right, well, best of luck to him and

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<v Speaker 1>Taz as well. Who uh I think it was his

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder or his knee. I forget what his most recent

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<v Speaker 1>surgery was, but hopefully he's doing well.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, these guys gotta pop that neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in a moment Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Good lord, Tom, this fella here goes. What's a hack squat?

0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.360
<v Speaker 1>What's a hack squat?

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<v Speaker 4>This gentleman has never heard of one of the finest

0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:48.880
<v Speaker 4>wrestlers and physical culturists of all time, George Hackenschmidt. Yeah,

0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:56.480
<v Speaker 4>the Russian Lion himself born in Estonia. George Hackenschmidt. Jacked.

0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:01.000
<v Speaker 1>George Jackenschmidt is what his name was. Guy was jacked

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<v Speaker 1>everybody long ago, before there was any such thing as steroids.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to eat bold testicles if you want an

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<v Speaker 1>extra testosterone.

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<v Speaker 4>No you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever seen those guys back then?

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<v Speaker 4>Eugen Sandow yes, I have seen Eugene Sandow. I've also

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<v Speaker 4>seen the Great Gama who didn't eat that meat. He

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<v Speaker 4>was eating like two thousand almonds and and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate a lot of almonds. Milk it's good for you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh, you're not undefeated for thirty years, like you

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that. I do. I've defeated you. I hold

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<v Speaker 4>your stump.

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<v Speaker 2>You lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate you. So anyway, let's talk about more news.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, by the way, yeah, squad the way George Hakischmid

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<v Speaker 4>did it would he would put a bar bell behind

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<v Speaker 4>him and then he would basically dead lift it up

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<v Speaker 4>while on his toes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not what this guy says. There's a squad

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<v Speaker 1>done with both legs behind your head.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that is not the hack squat Okay, nowadays it's

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<v Speaker 4>commonly done in a machine with the pads resting on

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<v Speaker 4>your shoulders. Then you squat down.

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<v Speaker 1>Versus Brian isn't joking. They did use bull testicles. I

0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.800
<v Speaker 1>looked into this recently when me and my dad were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Barry Bonds. You went from talking about Barry

0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Bonce looking up eating bull testicles.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh, Rocky Mountain oysters. People still eat them today?

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<v Speaker 1>How about that anyway. Elimination Chamber coming to Chicago in

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<v Speaker 1>February of twenty twenty six, United Center Saturday, February twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>So there will probably be some other things in partnership

0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.600
<v Speaker 1>is with that as well. So sounds like Ciampunk will

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<v Speaker 1>probably be headlining that show. Would be my guest, but

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. We got ratings notes here, just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things. So last week obviously was a rough weekend

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<v Speaker 1>for uh. Actually I'd been a few of those as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of the World Series and such. Well, no

0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we or World series. This past weekend Collision eighty nine

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>thousand viewers and a zero point zero six in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>to forty nine, which is the best they've done since

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<v Speaker 1>September sixth. This all is the new big data plus panel.

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<v Speaker 1>Point oh six would have sucked eight months ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>now it's like, Wow, good job you did a point

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<v Speaker 1>oh six.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian, Yeah, by the same token. Do you have, by chance,

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<v Speaker 4>ratings from the UFC that was on that night? I

0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:39.639
<v Speaker 4>do know that one was actually on espn U, but

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<v Speaker 4>I can try and find it did any damage whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a collision. I know I was watching that UFC.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean the uh the point six is double

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago. The viewership is up thirty three percent,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not sure there's a lot of collision UFC crossover.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking probably not a but you're looking at one,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at one exactly one and then UH SmackDown

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<v Speaker 1>one point one four to one million viewers, which was

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<v Speaker 1>up twenty three percent from last week, and a point

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<v Speaker 1>two six in eighteen to forty nine, which was up

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent. So that that week where they dropped below

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<v Speaker 1>a million and everybody said the sky was falling and

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you should get rid of Triple H. Well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Halloween show and a World Series weekend, and things

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.160
<v Speaker 1>are back to where they were before now that those

0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:39.359
<v Speaker 1>things have ended. Aj Styles talked about a promo on

0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the September eighth raw where he basically did a promo

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<v Speaker 1>during the break and he claimed it unnamed somebody didn't

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>want him in WWE anymore and things were being engineered

0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.400
<v Speaker 1>so he could not win his matches, and of course

0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.639
<v Speaker 1>they put this on social media, including the WWA YouTube channel,

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and he went on the Oh Contest Wrestling podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>he said the promo was him setting up something for

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<v Speaker 1>a storyline but he does not believe that idea will

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<v Speaker 1>be happening anytime soon. And he said the Triple H

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<v Speaker 1>was not the somebody he was alluding to. He said

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<v Speaker 1>it was something I was trying to set up that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think is gonna happen. It's not necessarily not true,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not talking about Triple H. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to clear that. But yep, that's all I can say

0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:27.680
<v Speaker 1>about it. So he had some idea, need it, and

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<v Speaker 1>there will be no follow up. And he also talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how he wants to wrestle one more match in TNA,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not sure it's ever gonna happen because he's retiring.

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<v Speaker 1>He just says, at some point in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess is probably like WrestleMania is what he's thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why he can't just say can and.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's six months away.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point in twenty twenty six, you think.

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<v Speaker 4>That now, I think they're gonna stretch this one out.

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<v Speaker 4>My guess is like Summer Slam or Survivor series, give

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<v Speaker 4>him more time to do a send off. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think you want to start the build up for this

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<v Speaker 4>right after John Cena's retirement happens, but I mean they're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to start.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you're right. But the issue the thing is, you

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 1>know he's been going to all of these shows and

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>basically doing farewell speech. Is like he's never going to

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<v Speaker 1>be coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>He did it in Japan. Where else has he done it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's done it in a few different places,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, you're not going back there. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing another tour there in all of twenty twenty six.

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's he's talking like he's really like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if he was going to go the full year, why

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<v Speaker 1>would he say I want to do at least one

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.399
<v Speaker 1>match in TNA. But I don't think I'm gonna do it.

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have time. It's like, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>find one day to do a TNA match in the

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<v Speaker 1>next fourteen months. It doesn't even makes sense. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Japan and Australia. You don't think can go back to

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Japan and Australia in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they have to be maybe not before SummerSlam.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know, man, We'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>I I just think I think him going out at

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<v Speaker 4>WrestleMania honestly would just it would be overshadowed as well.

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I think you can also set it up and do

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 4>kind of a standalone event like John Cena, like the

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Goldberg retirement and Milk it. I don't think you want

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 4>to just throw it on WrestleMania and have it be

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<v Speaker 4>another match.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you could do it that way. But the thing with

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like Goldberg's I mean, Goldberg's retirement on that Saturday night's

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>main event Atlanta. I mean, really, that wasn't that big

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a deal. I mean, I don't even think they sold

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>out Atlanta for that if I recall correctly, and you know,

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 1>it was a show didn't do particularly all that well

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>on NBC. It was kind of just and Goldberg wasn't

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>happy about it. I don't know. I guess we'll see

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.959
<v Speaker 1>what he ends up doing. Where do you want it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind? All right?

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 4>What what was that question?

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask where you wanted to retire? But

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to bring it up. Relentless program, Relentless

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Pro against TJP again.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the day after my birthday was wrestling May sixteenth,

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 4>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good match, Tom, this is better live.

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I hear you didn't like it on tape? Is that right?

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right, it was.

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty good, dude, especially knowing the shape you

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>were in. I can't even I can't even explain it

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 1>A Z you were. You were literally a Z and

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>you went in there and you had an a match.

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>So that was pretty good to play. Announced Wednesday, Axiom Nathan,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it'll be Axiom, Octagon Junior and Javon Evans on

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:38.959
<v Speaker 1>November twenty second, one day La Brera Olympic Gymnasium, Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>City winner will go on to challenge the Laredo Kid

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>for the Triple A Cruiserweight title. How long do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be before old Javon wins a title?

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Because they ain't winning him next week, dude, it ain't happening.

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 1>After they sent those guys packing and made him look

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>like geeks and I was like, yeah, he ain't winning

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>those tag titles. I don't think he's winning this trip.

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>How long do you think it'll be? It's been eighteen months,

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:07.160
<v Speaker 1>actually it's been nineteen months now, been keeping track. Nineteen months.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Javon has won nothing, hasn't won the Heritage Cup, hasn't

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>won the Speed title, has it won the North American title,

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 1>hasn't won the Iron Survivor Challenge. This guy hasn't won

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>nothing nineteen months now. But uh, Jasper Troy, he's got

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that Speed title held hostage. He's a champion. I want

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<v Speaker 1>he's a winner.

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<v Speaker 4>I want nothing more than for Javon Evans to run

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<v Speaker 4>rough shot through a tournament of competitors, get hit shot

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<v Speaker 4>at Jasper Troy, get stretched for four minutes, and then

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<v Speaker 4>put down with the black Hole slam.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we shall see. I'm not bullish on the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not bulld testicles on the idea, Rocky Mountain oyster

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<v Speaker 1>on the idea. So we see what's in the text

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<v Speaker 1>message been. Let's see here looking into the future, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the two world title matches for Mania forty two?

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<v Speaker 1>Cody versus Jericho for the WE title and Punk versus

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<v Speaker 1>of that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the next Rustlemania?

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<v Speaker 1>I think?

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<v Speaker 7>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Is forty two the next one? Or is it forty one?

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<v Speaker 4>Who could possibly.

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<v Speaker 1>Care WrestleMania No rustle MANI forty two is next one? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>This WrestleMania forty two is probably gonna be Punk and Roman,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure co codial face. I don't expect

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<v Speaker 1>it to be Jericho. I guess it's possible, but so

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<v Speaker 1>Versa says Jericho is acting so out of character, I

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<v Speaker 1>expect to swerve and he returns to Dynamite as an

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<v Speaker 1>I think the guy is going to WWE. It's my guess.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Life with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>Bryan Alvarez here sling Observer Live. Filthy Tom Lolore is

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<v Speaker 1>joining us here today. Let's talk some blood and guts.

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<v Speaker 4>Brother, there was plenty of blood and guts on display

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<v Speaker 4>last night. Aw Dynamite, the bloodiest and gutsiest show that

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<v Speaker 4>I think they have put on broadcast television maybe ever.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I don't have, like, I don't remember one

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<v Speaker 4>of every show that's ever been on TV, but maybe

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<v Speaker 4>back in an ESPN classic from some other era. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a show as buddy as this, but like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>I doubt it. Uh, the women's match was probably even

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<v Speaker 4>more gruesome than the men's was. Willow and sky Blue

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<v Speaker 4>started off. Willow had some kid in play style pants on,

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<v Speaker 4>but she was not there to play. She alle you

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<v Speaker 4>powerbomb sky Blue into the cage and then sky ran

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<v Speaker 4>the blade And that's probably what this match will most

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<v Speaker 4>be remembered for, because sky Blue became sky Red, if

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying, Producer Dom. She was bleeding

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<v Speaker 4>all over the place this whole match. Uh, I noticed too,

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<v Speaker 4>Like when when Mercedes loses all these belts, Brian, there's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be four or five indie workers getting less money

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 4>out of Tony Kahan every show. So stat Lander, what

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 4>are you talking about. Well, she's got them out there

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 4>with the belts, so they're on TV. Okay, so probably

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 4>get paid more as extras than just the bums. You

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh those people?

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yeah, there was this insane stuff throughout this

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 4>whole match, Like let's talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>The most crazy one, let's talk about the craziest one, going, well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I don't know if that's the craziest one.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Dude, This one I thought was beyond anything else on

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<v Speaker 1>this entire show.

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<v Speaker 4>Statlander and Marina are fighting on the outside and Marina

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<v Speaker 4>Shaffir kicks Statlander and she takes a bump onto a

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<v Speaker 4>bed of No. No, that that wasn't the worst Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>not even okay? How about Willow gave I think Megan

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<v Speaker 4>Baane a superplex into the middle of the two rings.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope? Okay, So first off, First off.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it Marina hold On stopping her foot her exposed foot?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, listen onto glass Tom. They had a spot where

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Hayter was slumped in the corner. Okay, she's slumped

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner. She has one arm on one rope,

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<v Speaker 1>she has one arm on the other rope, no hands.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a trash can lid around her face. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she can't see. She's just laying there, slumped in the

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<v Speaker 1>corner and there's a trash can lid on her face. Meganane,

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<v Speaker 1>from the middle of the ring, walks up, takes a

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<v Speaker 1>freaking steel chair and she rules it and it just

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<v Speaker 1>goes bam right into the trash can on Jamie Hayter's face.

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<v Speaker 1>She can't see it coming. She doesn't know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>She freaking went down and they had a ref going

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>over there and he's checking on her to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>she's alive. I went, oh my god, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>most careless crazy spot I've seen. I think it all

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and I watched the whole show here. That was the

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>craziest by far. You can't even see it coming straight

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>freaking to the face. I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the worst thing on this show by Miles.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, bro, there's a lot of contenders on this one.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta send me. I don't remember that, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sit here talk. I'll send it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna it'll blow your mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Tony Storm came out looking like Joker's Heath Ledger in

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 4>better times. She had a handful of beads who was

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<v Speaker 4>whacking everybody on the heel side. They locked the door.

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Finally the crowd went nuts. She did a Tony Storm.

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<v Speaker 4>She did a champagne bottle TYPEEI deathmatch spot. Jamie Hayter

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<v Speaker 4>tried to put Sky through a table. She couldn't. Then

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 4>they went through a waterfall sequence where everybody was doing

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 4>their finishers. Brian, did you notice Mercedes Money changed the

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<v Speaker 4>money maker.

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<v Speaker 1>She changed it.

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 4>She changed it. She no longer spun into a DDT.

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<v Speaker 4>She actually went the other way and turned it into

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<v Speaker 4>a facebuster.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, slight change, but good change, good change. As the

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Sheriff of Rottingham would say, Harley, Oh my dear, Harley

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<v Speaker 4>pulled out Minnie Money Brian and I was ready to

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 4>lose it. Here the woman's blood and guts. And what

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 4>does she do? She pulls out a puppet. But alas

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 4>it was a go as Mercedes Monet, much to my appreciation,

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 4>took this puppet tossed it in the abyss. But Harley

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 4>then revealed brass knuckles leveled Mercedes with them. Thank you,

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:20.240
<v Speaker 4>that was a good Finally a good puppet spot Becla

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 4>and Julia Hart whispered something to Mercedes. They snuck through

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 4>the metal trussing, took out the referee, Mike Posey. They

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 4>took the key from him, opened the door. They all

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 4>started pulling the baby faces out of the ring. But

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 4>uh then the baby faces kind of made a comeback.

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Pure chaos. Stat and Mercedes are climbing the metal above

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 4>the table that's displaying all of Mercedes belts statlander Samoan

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 4>dropped her off of the metal through this table. Tony

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 4>inside the ring, pulled out her champagne glass her and

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Mina ddt and Marina onto it. Tony pulled out a mirror,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 4>put it on Marina's face and charged at her, but

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Marina popped up, threw this mirror into her face, shatters everywhere.

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Willow then gives Megan Bain this awful superplex into the

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 4>middle of the ring. In between the two rings, Mina

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 4>locks on a figure four leg lock with a bar

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 4>wire bat. Marina then stomps her barefoot into all this

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 4>glass and then stomps Mina with the foot with the

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 4>glass sticking out of it. They threw her into the glass.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Marina locked on the mother's milk. The rest of the

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 4>baby faces besides Tony, other than Tony were locked outside

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 4>and Megan Baine beat Mina with the title belt as

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 4>the rest of the Heels held Tony watching, forcing her

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 4>to surrender in order to save her love. Mina, Shirakawa

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 4>and the Heels celebrated as Tony and Mina were laying

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 4>in the ring embracing and uh.

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 2>Hey, it was.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Brutal watch that Watch what I just sent you. Watch

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>what I just sent you? Yeah it was.

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 4>It was unforgettable match.

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>As advertised and uh yeah hopefully James. Yeah, can you

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:19.760
<v Speaker 1>look at that? What was she thinking?

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 4>I swung it like she was like gonna hit her

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.320
<v Speaker 4>like right there, not throw it.

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm pretty sure that Jamie lost teeth and like

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>her mouth is all messed up in her face.

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, brutal.

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>What was she thinking? Dude? I have no earthly idea.

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I watched that and I was like, oh my god,

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I had to quit wrestling. I would have retired on

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the spot after that spot. Right there, we had Hangman

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and Hobbs no title.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 4>Yes, because I left that Brian thinking like, you've got

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 4>to imagine that Tony and Mina are gonna win that

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 4>tag title tournament. Now, well, after seeing how they were

0:38:58.440 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 4>left here.

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I think there are either gonna win the tournament or

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that matches in the semis.

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 4>So it's against Marina and Baine. Yeah right, but even then.

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I do expect them to win the tournament.

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<v Speaker 4>The other team is the Sisters of Sin. Yeah, who

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<v Speaker 4>would be the Heill team, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they win the tournament. I thought that the

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<v Speaker 1>day that they did their thing backstage and both lost

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<v Speaker 1>to the pay per view.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so there was also a thing with the Young

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<v Speaker 4>Bucks and Don Kallas, Yeah, and uh Josh, Alexander Otsuka

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<v Speaker 4>and Okada. There they delivered a beating up Jack Perry

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<v Speaker 4>to the Young Bucks trailer Callous wants them to join

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<v Speaker 4>the family next week because they have a million dollar

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<v Speaker 4>tag match on the special three hour Dynamite. Mm hm

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<v Speaker 4>ah if they're all three hours whatever. Hangman out of

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<v Speaker 4>Page and Powerhouse Hobbs false count anywhere. Hangman immediately tore

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<v Speaker 4>off the turnbuckle pad. They brawled outside Hobbs dobe shoulder

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<v Speaker 4>first in their ring steps. Page left off of them

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<v Speaker 4>into the grasp of Hobbs, who body slanted him off

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<v Speaker 4>the apron on the announced desk onto the steel steps.

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<v Speaker 4>They started throwing up tweet from Randos like it's the UFC.

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<v Speaker 4>No Paul Fontaine tweet on the screen, But I did

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<v Speaker 4>like this touch. I think it's kind of cool. Then

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<v Speaker 4>we had what is also a contender for the worst

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<v Speaker 4>day on the show. Powerhouse Hobbs looks he's got a

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<v Speaker 4>power bomb or pile drive Hangman Page off the announced

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<v Speaker 4>desk and Hangman. Page simply back drops him, but power

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<v Speaker 4>Hubs correct, Powerhouse, it is ten feet up in the air.

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<v Speaker 4>He rotates and lands directly on top of his tailbone,

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<v Speaker 4>pops up in the air. He's not selling on the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>He immediately pops up and runs over to the barricade

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<v Speaker 4>in pain. They fought under the crowd. That looked brutal.

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<v Speaker 4>They fought under the crowd. Eventually Hangman knocked Hobbs off

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<v Speaker 4>of the uh off the like what is entry in

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<v Speaker 4>aisleway or something with a boot through some tables and

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<v Speaker 4>he got the win. I love this match. Actually, Shabata

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<v Speaker 4>and Joe jumped Page. After the match, the cage lowered

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<v Speaker 4>until Hook and Eddie Kingston ran down to make the save,

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<v Speaker 4>and the crowd channer for Eddie, even though it seems

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<v Speaker 4>like he's out of place in this entire feud. Hangman said,

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<v Speaker 4>if Joe wants him to steal cage, he should have

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<v Speaker 4>just asked, because at full gear it'll be Samoa Joe

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<v Speaker 4>versus Hangman in that steel cage. And then we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about the FTR and Steamboat segment earlier, and then we

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<v Speaker 4>had the main event, the Men's Blood and Guts and

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<v Speaker 4>this started with Darby and Wheeler. They retreated to the floor.

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<v Speaker 4>Darby vaulted himself at Udah on the floor and they

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<v Speaker 4>kept fighting around it as the crowd hated da Darby

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<v Speaker 4>had a thumbtack covered skateboard he use on Wheeler. He

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<v Speaker 4>did a double stomp off the top onto him as

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<v Speaker 4>Orange Cassidy was taunting his former trainee. I really liked

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<v Speaker 4>the It's a small touch, but the Death Riders all

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<v Speaker 4>their music starts the same and then it goes into

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<v Speaker 4>their different themes, so it was a small bit of

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<v Speaker 4>suspense every time their music would hit, which I really liked.

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<v Speaker 4>Daniel Garcia was in Renee was backstage looking for Mark Briscoe,

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<v Speaker 4>who was incapacitated. She kylo' riley and Roger Strong found him,

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<v Speaker 4>beaten up, bloody. Roderck took his spot, ran down there,

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<v Speaker 4>ran through everyone, wisely grabbed the chair as Claudio was next.

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<v Speaker 4>Claudio came in, did a giant swing to Darby with

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<v Speaker 4>Orange Cassidy on his back, then running gorilla press Darby

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<v Speaker 4>halfway across the ring into the eye opposite ring. Moxie

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<v Speaker 4>came in with a fork. Darby dropped off the top

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<v Speaker 4>of the trussing onto everybody. Pack came out looking more

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<v Speaker 4>jacked than anyone I think I've seen. In twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 4>Brisco made his way out after being almost killed backstage.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave Yuda a j driller on top of the cage.

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<v Speaker 4>Darby had a cattle prod but Gabe kid jumped him

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 4>choked him out. Orange Cassidy put his hands in his pockets,

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<v Speaker 4>but Claudio beat the crap out of him. Moxie stapled

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<v Speaker 4>his hands into his pockets. Gabe and Pac tried to

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<v Speaker 4>hang Darby, but he fought back. Then instead, they set

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<v Speaker 4>some tables on fire and pock Gorilla pressed slam Darby

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<v Speaker 4>through them. But hey, we saw Moxie set on fire

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<v Speaker 4>a few months ago and he suffered no damage, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure Darby will be okay. Orange Cassie made a comeback.

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<v Speaker 4>Roder Strong made a comeback, made a comeback, Strong kept

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<v Speaker 4>making a comeback. Orange landed a punch on Moxley. Roger

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<v Speaker 4>launched Youda into a table and threw it. Claudio cut

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<v Speaker 4>off an Orange punch, but Cassidy landed another one, landed

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<v Speaker 4>one on Moxley. O'reiley locked on the ankle lock and

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<v Speaker 4>Moxley alone fought countered into a bulldog, but got put

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<v Speaker 4>right back into an arm bar into the ankle lock.

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<v Speaker 4>And after weeks and weeks and weeks, John Moxley, trapped

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<v Speaker 4>in glass alone in the middle of the ring, with

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<v Speaker 4>no death Riders to save him, had no choice but

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<v Speaker 4>to tap the mat and signal defeat. He submitted at

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<v Speaker 4>the hands of Kylo O'Reilly. Finish. It was perfect, great

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<v Speaker 4>build up over the past couple months weeks to this match,

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<v Speaker 4>and you could see the death Rider's confidence deteriorating, not

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<v Speaker 4>only in themselves but in mocks. As the show goes

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<v Speaker 4>off the.

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<v Speaker 1>Air, Macanamo with more Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Semperbebe on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you finish that Dynamite review? Filthy Tom Lawler, Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarez here, Observer Live. I can't help but notice that

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon here has sent astute text message. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>this is leading to Kyle O'Reilly getting a push? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>It sure as heck better. It's sure better. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's gonna be the guy that I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta figure this out now, because I mean there's seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five titles. But the funny thing is they got all

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.799
<v Speaker 1>these belts, but when you really think about it, it's like, well,

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 1>which one Kyle win? Because I mean, we've already got

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<v Speaker 1>the international title match with Mark Risco with the big

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<v Speaker 1>stipulation of the pay review. All of the other belts

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<v Speaker 1>are tied up by Ocada.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the TNT title.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. The TNT title is

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<v Speaker 1>the International by Ocada. Sorry, Ocatta's got the International. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we could do. Uh this new one right? This

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<v Speaker 1>national title?

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<v Speaker 4>Yea is the International? Then it's got a different name.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he the continental champion?

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<v Speaker 1>He's the International champion because they unified the International and

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<v Speaker 1>the continent unified title. Oh my god, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>think of a belt to This is another topic for

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<v Speaker 1>another day. I'll be back tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>What Kyle O'Reilly?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that have to do with anything? I'll be

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