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Speaker 1: Tom Lawler is joining us here today. What's up Tom?
Speaker 4: Not too much? It's another day.
Speaker 1: Any news about you today? You want to talk about her? No? No, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Well we got a bunch of injury updates here.
Speaker 1: How's your injury?
Speaker 4: Still injured?
Speaker 1: I know that, But like, how mobile are you now?
Speaker 1: Can you do jumping jacks yet?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I could do so, I think so are.
Speaker 1: You not trying any jumping jacks lately?
Speaker 4: I could do a stanky leg?
Speaker 1: Can you can you swing them kettlebells yet?
Speaker 4: I've kind of stayed away. Really, I could do other
Speaker 4: I do other stuff.
Speaker 1: You were big.
Speaker 4: I get up and I walk. Hey, you know, just
Speaker 4: don't stop moving guys.
Speaker 1: If you haven't got the cameo for me yet, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it can be life changing. Just ask Tom.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: I was asked for advice on what someone could do
Speaker 1: when they were injured, and I gave that advice about
Speaker 1: walking and Tom ridiculed me. But now he's seen the
Speaker 1: light as he walks all the time. Fw online on cameo.
Speaker 4: I'm walk off the air if you continue this.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Tom? Does anyone else check
Speaker 1: on you regularly? Except for TJP? No, it's me and him.
Speaker 1: You're best friends. That's it, all right, Let's talk about
Speaker 1: all the other news of injuries and pain and such.
Speaker 1: So the first one we got to talking about is Jim
Speaker 1: Ross because it appears this one is the most serious,
Speaker 1: so he did say on his podcast. He returned to
Speaker 1: his podcast on Wednesday. He noted he finished selling his
Speaker 1: condo with Jacksonville's back in Oklahoma. Longtime home, Happy to
Speaker 1: be home. He said he's feeling better health wise, and
Speaker 1: he has in a long time. His daughters are close
Speaker 1: by able to help him out. He says, I feel
Speaker 1: healthier than I felt in a long time, got a
Speaker 1: lot of energy, Thankful to be back on the air.
Speaker 1: Signed a one year contract over the summer. He said
Speaker 1: in the next few weeks he's going to be back.
Speaker 1: Happy for that opportunity, and he did say a few
Speaker 1: months ago. At this time, I wasn't so sure about
Speaker 1: the outcome. But here I am, and here we are.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great, great year of podcasting. I
Speaker 1: can promise you that he did another. I've actually got
Speaker 1: the tweet here, I can find it. This is actually
Speaker 1: this is from Wrestling Purists, but this was from his podcast.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm better. I feel better today that I've
Speaker 1: been in a long time, feel good, feeling healthier than
Speaker 1: I felt in a long time, plenty of energy. Life
Speaker 1: is good, life is good. I'm alive. A few months ago,
Speaker 1: at this time, I was not so sure about the outcome,
Speaker 1: but here I am. Apparently there was a close call
Speaker 1: a few months ago, and I don't know anything other
Speaker 1: than that, but apparently it was. I was just told
Speaker 1: a close call, so a really close call actually, So
Speaker 1: all the best of JR. I'm glad he's feeling better
Speaker 1: and he should be back on the air soon. And
Speaker 1: he's had obviously a lot of health problems. Buddy's made
Speaker 1: it through and he's on his way back. So that's
Speaker 1: the update on Jim Ross. Also, since people have been
Speaker 1: asking Bianca bell Air is still out of action, where's
Speaker 1: Bianca bell Air been people asked, well, she's hurt. She
Speaker 1: was in the three way with Ria and EO at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: That was April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November.
Speaker 1: That was seven months ago. And they did some spot
Speaker 1: and I guess EO did a moon salt or something
Speaker 1: like that, or they did a Actually I think they
Speaker 1: were doing one of those stacked up superplex deals and
Speaker 1: Rhea landed on her hand and crushed everything in her finger.
Speaker 1: She said. She said, it's been a crazy journey being
Speaker 1: an athlete, having an injury or lying in your body.
Speaker 1: My body's not doing what it's supposed to do. Hoping
Speaker 1: I could be back in the ring soon, but she
Speaker 1: broke her knuckle, broke the joint, something they thought would
Speaker 1: be straightforward. But it has now been seven months, so
Speaker 1: hopefully she can come back soon. But that sucks, Brian.
Speaker 4: I have also actually had a similar injury in the
Speaker 4: past where I shattered my knuckle into one hundred pieces
Speaker 4: punching somebody. Yeah, I was in a fight, but the
Speaker 4: recovery process for that was awful comparatively to some of
Speaker 4: the under injuries I've had that were you would think
Speaker 4: would be much more severe just because of the amount
Speaker 4: of nerve endings in your hand. It's one of the
Speaker 4: more sensitive parts of your body. And when if she
Speaker 4: had a similar fracture to what I had, it's like
Speaker 4: a hundred different bones that have to heal together. They
Speaker 4: without some you know, crazy surgery. Sometimes it just takes
Speaker 4: a long time for this process. So it's like it's
Speaker 4: like turf toe, you know, it's one of those things
Speaker 4: that you're like, there's no way this could hurt that bad,
Speaker 4: But when you have it.
Speaker 1: For a decade, awful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had it too.
Speaker 1: Sucks. I don't even know if I think it was
Speaker 1: just turf toe and now it's just arthritic. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think my toe is ever gonna be the
Speaker 1: same again. Sucks.
Speaker 4: How'd you find something small enough to stub your toe on?
Speaker 1: It's called the mat, It's eighty by eighty. It was
Speaker 1: plenty big enough to stub my toe. I didn't even
Speaker 1: stub it. I didn't even do anything. I came home
Speaker 1: and I actually I remember I was just like on
Speaker 1: the man, I went, why's my toe hurt? And then
Speaker 1: it just never it never didn't hurt again after that day.
Speaker 1: Don't know how jammed it jammed or it bent funny
Speaker 1: or you know, just got old? What did Granny always say?
Speaker 1: Getting old is the pits. Queen Amanada did an interview
Speaker 1: on her volog I guess it's not really an interview,
Speaker 1: and she said, I cried my eyes out. I'm in
Speaker 1: the locker room right now. I was not cleared because
Speaker 1: my neck is so tight, can't even move it a
Speaker 1: little bit. Because of this, I got taken out of
Speaker 1: the match today ad I'm out of blood and gut
Speaker 1: safety first, rather be out two to three weeks than
Speaker 1: six months. So she didn't say how she got it,
Speaker 1: but apparently in one of the matches she jammed her
Speaker 1: neck up. Can't even turn her head, and so that's
Speaker 1: where Queen Amenada was. And then Rick Flair was advertised
Speaker 1: for Dynamite and Rick Flair did make an appearance before
Speaker 1: the live crowd and then went home. Apparently he very
Speaker 1: recently injured his rotator cuff. Nobody really knows how. Dave
Speaker 1: thinks it might have been a fall, which is Rick Flair.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's done a lot of that.
Speaker 4: Could have been doing planks at the bar. Yes, I've
Speaker 4: seen videos. If I'm doing that recently, so maybe maybe
Speaker 4: he tore it working out well.
Speaker 1: He was in a sling backstage, he took the sling off,
Speaker 1: came out in front of the crowds. They wouldn't se
Speaker 1: him with a sling on, did a promo and then
Speaker 1: and then left. Actually, he's had a lot of rotator
Speaker 1: CUF problems his entire career, actually, and I think he
Speaker 1: was supposed to be in that FTR segment and perhaps
Speaker 1: at the last minute Ricky Steamboat was given twice the
Speaker 1: material because whatever it was, that segment that was rough.
Speaker 1: That was a rough segment. But he did do a
Speaker 1: nice comeback. Oh, Ricky.
Speaker 4: Pulled it together.
Speaker 1: What did you think about the Ricky Steamboat FTR segment?
Speaker 4: I did not think it was Ricky Steamboat's best work
Speaker 4: at first. I thought, like, was he in the back
Speaker 4: partying and they pulled him at the last minute to
Speaker 4: go do this segment. But he went out there and
Speaker 4: he got through it. He like he said, he did
Speaker 4: his comeback. I was kind of laughing almost the entire time.
Speaker 4: It looked like he was like asking Tony questions while
Speaker 4: he was out there. Looks like he's asking FTR questions
Speaker 4: about what he's supposed to do. It was bizarre.
Speaker 1: He was carried through a segment maybe for the first
Speaker 1: time in his career. Usually it's the other way around.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a rough one.
Speaker 4: A stark contrast to what we normally see from Ricky Steamboat,
Speaker 4: where he is like the best legend that you could
Speaker 4: bring out.
Speaker 1: Buddy Matthews also is still injured. He got hurt in
Speaker 1: a mansion Brisbane against Okada where essentially he vaulted into
Speaker 1: the ring over the top rope, which by the way,
Speaker 1: apparently Ricky Steamboat did and we never saw it. He
Speaker 1: like vaulted over the top rope into the ring for
Speaker 1: his entrance. So Buddy Matthews did this and he he
Speaker 1: suffered ligament and cartilage damage and then rustled thirteen minutes
Speaker 1: on it with Okadau And that was I mean forever ago.
Speaker 1: He was expecting to heal quickly, but instead it didn't
Speaker 1: and in August he had to go undergo surgery again
Speaker 1: and he said he's just now able to do the
Speaker 1: hack squad. So yeah, rough, dude.
Speaker 4: Brian Cage. Brian Cage went through another surgery yesterday. I
Speaker 4: was talking to him last.
Speaker 1: Nime, was it yesterday? He did it. I knew he
Speaker 1: was going to do another one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think he's in the hospital. I don't know
Speaker 4: if he already got it done, but.
Speaker 1: Oh, all right, well, best of luck to him and
Speaker 1: Taz as well. Who uh I think it was his
Speaker 1: shoulder or his knee. I forget what his most recent
Speaker 1: surgery was, but hopefully he's doing well.
Speaker 4: Also, these guys gotta pop that neck.
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Speaker 1: Good lord, Tom, this fella here goes. What's a hack squat?
Speaker 1: What's a hack squat?
Speaker 4: This gentleman has never heard of one of the finest
Speaker 4: wrestlers and physical culturists of all time, George Hackenschmidt. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the Russian Lion himself born in Estonia. George Hackenschmidt. Jacked.
Speaker 1: George Jackenschmidt is what his name was. Guy was jacked
Speaker 1: everybody long ago, before there was any such thing as steroids.
Speaker 1: You had to eat bold testicles if you want an
Speaker 1: extra testosterone.
Speaker 4: No you didn't.
Speaker 1: You ever seen those guys back then?
Speaker 4: Eugen Sandow yes, I have seen Eugene Sandow. I've also
Speaker 4: seen the Great Gama who didn't eat that meat. He
Speaker 4: was eating like two thousand almonds and and uh.
Speaker 1: I hate a lot of almonds. Milk it's good for you. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, you're not undefeated for thirty years, like you
Speaker 4: don't know that. I do. I've defeated you. I hold
Speaker 4: your stump.
Speaker 2: You lost.
Speaker 1: I hate you. So anyway, let's talk about more news.
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, yeah, squad the way George Hakischmid
Speaker 4: did it would he would put a bar bell behind
Speaker 4: him and then he would basically dead lift it up
Speaker 4: while on his toes.
Speaker 1: So it's not what this guy says. There's a squad
Speaker 1: done with both legs behind your head.
Speaker 4: No, that is not the hack squat Okay, nowadays it's
Speaker 4: commonly done in a machine with the pads resting on
Speaker 4: your shoulders. Then you squat down.
Speaker 1: Versus Brian isn't joking. They did use bull testicles. I
Speaker 1: looked into this recently when me and my dad were
Speaker 1: talking about Barry Bonds. You went from talking about Barry
Speaker 1: Bonce looking up eating bull testicles.
Speaker 4: Huh, Rocky Mountain oysters. People still eat them today?
Speaker 1: How about that anyway. Elimination Chamber coming to Chicago in
Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty six, United Center Saturday, February twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: So there will probably be some other things in partnership
Speaker 1: is with that as well. So sounds like Ciampunk will
Speaker 1: probably be headlining that show. Would be my guest, but
Speaker 1: who knows. We got ratings notes here, just a couple
Speaker 1: of things. So last week obviously was a rough weekend
Speaker 1: for uh. Actually I'd been a few of those as
Speaker 1: a result of the World Series and such. Well, no
Speaker 1: we or World series. This past weekend Collision eighty nine
Speaker 1: thousand viewers and a zero point zero six in eighteen
Speaker 1: to forty nine, which is the best they've done since
Speaker 1: September sixth. This all is the new big data plus panel.
Speaker 1: Point oh six would have sucked eight months ago, but
Speaker 1: now it's like, Wow, good job you did a point
Speaker 1: oh six.
Speaker 4: Brian, Yeah, by the same token. Do you have, by chance,
Speaker 4: ratings from the UFC that was on that night? I
Speaker 4: do know that one was actually on espn U, but
Speaker 4: I can try and find it did any damage whatsoever.
Speaker 4: It's a collision. I know I was watching that UFC.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the uh the point six is double
Speaker 1: a week ago. The viewership is up thirty three percent,
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure there's a lot of collision UFC crossover.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking probably not a but you're looking at one,
Speaker 1: you're looking at one exactly one and then UH SmackDown
Speaker 1: one point one four to one million viewers, which was
Speaker 1: up twenty three percent from last week, and a point
Speaker 1: two six in eighteen to forty nine, which was up
Speaker 1: thirty percent. So that that week where they dropped below
Speaker 1: a million and everybody said the sky was falling and
Speaker 1: you should get rid of Triple H. Well, it was
Speaker 1: a Halloween show and a World Series weekend, and things
Speaker 1: are back to where they were before now that those
Speaker 1: things have ended. Aj Styles talked about a promo on
Speaker 1: the September eighth raw where he basically did a promo
Speaker 1: during the break and he claimed it unnamed somebody didn't
Speaker 1: want him in WWE anymore and things were being engineered
Speaker 1: so he could not win his matches, and of course
Speaker 1: they put this on social media, including the WWA YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: and he went on the Oh Contest Wrestling podcast and
Speaker 1: he said the promo was him setting up something for
Speaker 1: a storyline but he does not believe that idea will
Speaker 1: be happening anytime soon. And he said the Triple H
Speaker 1: was not the somebody he was alluding to. He said
Speaker 1: it was something I was trying to set up that
Speaker 1: I don't think is gonna happen. It's not necessarily not true,
Speaker 1: but I'm not talking about Triple H. So I want
Speaker 1: to clear that. But yep, that's all I can say
Speaker 1: about it. So he had some idea, need it, and
Speaker 1: there will be no follow up. And he also talked
Speaker 1: about how he wants to wrestle one more match in TNA,
Speaker 1: but he's not sure it's ever gonna happen because he's retiring.
Speaker 1: He just says, at some point in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: My guess is probably like WrestleMania is what he's thinking.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he can't just say can and.
Speaker 4: That's that's six months away.
Speaker 1: At some point in twenty twenty six, you think.
Speaker 4: That now, I think they're gonna stretch this one out.
Speaker 4: My guess is like Summer Slam or Survivor series, give
Speaker 4: him more time to do a send off. I don't
Speaker 4: think you want to start the build up for this
Speaker 4: right after John Cena's retirement happens, but I mean they're
Speaker 4: gonna have to start.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're right. But the issue the thing is, you
Speaker 1: know he's been going to all of these shows and
Speaker 1: basically doing farewell speech. Is like he's never going to
Speaker 1: be coming back.
Speaker 4: He did it in Japan. Where else has he done it?
Speaker 1: I think he's done it in a few different places,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you're not going back there. They're not
Speaker 1: doing another tour there in all of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's talking like he's really like, listen,
Speaker 1: if he was going to go the full year, why
Speaker 1: would he say I want to do at least one
Speaker 1: match in TNA. But I don't think I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have time. It's like, you can't
Speaker 1: find one day to do a TNA match in the
Speaker 1: next fourteen months. It doesn't even makes sense. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: Japan and Australia. You don't think can go back to
Speaker 1: Japan and Australia in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4: I mean they have to be maybe not before SummerSlam.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, man, We'll see.
Speaker 4: I I just think I think him going out at
Speaker 4: WrestleMania honestly would just it would be overshadowed as well.
Speaker 4: I think you can also set it up and do
Speaker 4: kind of a standalone event like John Cena, like the
Speaker 4: Goldberg retirement and Milk it. I don't think you want
Speaker 4: to just throw it on WrestleMania and have it be
Speaker 4: another match.
Speaker 1: Well you could do it that way. But the thing with
Speaker 1: like Goldberg's I mean, Goldberg's retirement on that Saturday night's
Speaker 1: main event Atlanta. I mean, really, that wasn't that big
Speaker 1: a deal. I mean, I don't even think they sold
Speaker 1: out Atlanta for that if I recall correctly, and you know,
Speaker 1: it was a show didn't do particularly all that well
Speaker 1: on NBC. It was kind of just and Goldberg wasn't
Speaker 1: happy about it. I don't know. I guess we'll see
Speaker 1: what he ends up doing. Where do you want it?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Never mind? All right?
Speaker 4: What what was that question?
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask where you wanted to retire? But
Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring it up. Relentless program, Relentless
Speaker 1: Pro against TJP again.
Speaker 4: Like the day after my birthday was wrestling May sixteenth,
Speaker 4: twenty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good match, Tom, this is better live.
Speaker 1: I hear you didn't like it on tape? Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, it was.
Speaker 1: It was pretty good, dude, especially knowing the shape you
Speaker 1: were in. I can't even I can't even explain it
Speaker 1: A Z you were. You were literally a Z and
Speaker 1: you went in there and you had an a match.
Speaker 1: So that was pretty good to play. Announced Wednesday, Axiom Nathan,
Speaker 1: Actually it'll be Axiom, Octagon Junior and Javon Evans on
Speaker 1: November twenty second, one day La Brera Olympic Gymnasium, Mexico
Speaker 1: City winner will go on to challenge the Laredo Kid
Speaker 1: for the Triple A Cruiserweight title. How long do you
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be before old Javon wins a title?
Speaker 1: Because they ain't winning him next week, dude, it ain't happening.
Speaker 1: After they sent those guys packing and made him look
Speaker 1: like geeks and I was like, yeah, he ain't winning
Speaker 1: those tag titles. I don't think he's winning this trip.
Speaker 1: How long do you think it'll be? It's been eighteen months,
Speaker 1: actually it's been nineteen months now, been keeping track. Nineteen months.
Speaker 1: Javon has won nothing, hasn't won the Heritage Cup, hasn't
Speaker 1: won the Speed title, has it won the North American title,
Speaker 1: hasn't won the Iron Survivor Challenge. This guy hasn't won
Speaker 1: nothing nineteen months now. But uh, Jasper Troy, he's got
Speaker 1: that Speed title held hostage. He's a champion. I want
Speaker 1: he's a winner.
Speaker 4: I want nothing more than for Javon Evans to run
Speaker 4: rough shot through a tournament of competitors, get hit shot
Speaker 4: at Jasper Troy, get stretched for four minutes, and then
Speaker 4: put down with the black Hole slam.
Speaker 1: Well, we shall see. I'm not bullish on the idea.
Speaker 1: I'm not bulld testicles on the idea, Rocky Mountain oyster
Speaker 1: on the idea. So we see what's in the text
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Speaker 1: Cody versus Jericho for the WE title and Punk versus
Speaker 1: Dominic for the World title. I don't see any chance
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Speaker 1: I think?
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Speaker 1: Care WrestleMania No rustle MANI forty two is next one? Well?
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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure co codial face. I don't expect
Speaker 1: it to be Jericho. I guess it's possible, but so
Speaker 1: Versa says Jericho is acting so out of character, I
Speaker 1: expect to swerve and he returns to Dynamite as an
Speaker 1: anti aw heel. I don't think so, brother. I don't
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Speaker 1: not see Tony Khan doing that. No chance, no chance.
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Speaker 1: Bryan Alvarez here sling Observer Live. Filthy Tom Lolore is
Speaker 1: joining us here today. Let's talk some blood and guts.
Speaker 4: Brother, there was plenty of blood and guts on display
Speaker 4: last night. Aw Dynamite, the bloodiest and gutsiest show that
Speaker 4: I think they have put on broadcast television maybe ever.
Speaker 4: I mean I don't have, like, I don't remember one
Speaker 4: of every show that's ever been on TV, but maybe
Speaker 4: back in an ESPN classic from some other era. There
Speaker 4: was a show as buddy as this, but like you said,
Speaker 4: I doubt it. Uh, the women's match was probably even
Speaker 4: more gruesome than the men's was. Willow and sky Blue
Speaker 4: started off. Willow had some kid in play style pants on,
Speaker 4: but she was not there to play. She alle you
Speaker 4: powerbomb sky Blue into the cage and then sky ran
Speaker 4: the blade And that's probably what this match will most
Speaker 4: be remembered for, because sky Blue became sky Red, if
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Producer Dom. She was bleeding
Speaker 4: all over the place this whole match. Uh, I noticed too,
Speaker 4: Like when when Mercedes loses all these belts, Brian, there's
Speaker 4: gonna be four or five indie workers getting less money
Speaker 4: out of Tony Kahan every show. So stat Lander, what
Speaker 4: are you talking about. Well, she's got them out there
Speaker 4: with the belts, so they're on TV. Okay, so probably
Speaker 4: get paid more as extras than just the bums. You
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh those people?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, there was this insane stuff throughout this
Speaker 4: whole match, Like let's talk about.
Speaker 1: The most crazy one, let's talk about the craziest one, going, well, well,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, I don't know if that's the craziest one.
Speaker 1: Dude, This one I thought was beyond anything else on
Speaker 1: this entire show.
Speaker 4: Statlander and Marina are fighting on the outside and Marina
Speaker 4: Shaffir kicks Statlander and she takes a bump onto a
Speaker 4: bed of No. No, that that wasn't the worst Okay,
Speaker 4: not even okay? How about Willow gave I think Megan
Speaker 4: Baane a superplex into the middle of the two rings.
Speaker 1: Nope? Okay, So first off, First off.
Speaker 4: Was it Marina hold On stopping her foot her exposed foot?
Speaker 1: Okay, listen onto glass Tom. They had a spot where
Speaker 1: Jamie Hayter was slumped in the corner. Okay, she's slumped
Speaker 1: in the corner. She has one arm on one rope,
Speaker 1: she has one arm on the other rope, no hands.
Speaker 1: She has a trash can lid around her face. Okay,
Speaker 1: she can't see. She's just laying there, slumped in the
Speaker 1: corner and there's a trash can lid on her face. Meganane,
Speaker 1: from the middle of the ring, walks up, takes a
Speaker 1: freaking steel chair and she rules it and it just
Speaker 1: goes bam right into the trash can on Jamie Hayter's face.
Speaker 1: She can't see it coming. She doesn't know what's coming.
Speaker 1: She freaking went down and they had a ref going
Speaker 1: over there and he's checking on her to make sure
Speaker 1: she's alive. I went, oh my god, that was the
Speaker 1: most careless crazy spot I've seen. I think it all
Speaker 1: and I watched the whole show here. That was the
Speaker 1: craziest by far. You can't even see it coming straight
Speaker 1: freaking to the face. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was the worst thing on this show by Miles.
Speaker 4: Oh, bro, there's a lot of contenders on this one.
Speaker 4: You gotta send me. I don't remember that, you don't
Speaker 4: remember it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit here talk. I'll send it to you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna it'll blow your mind.
Speaker 4: Tony Storm came out looking like Joker's Heath Ledger in
Speaker 4: better times. She had a handful of beads who was
Speaker 4: whacking everybody on the heel side. They locked the door.
Speaker 4: Finally the crowd went nuts. She did a Tony Storm.
Speaker 4: She did a champagne bottle TYPEEI deathmatch spot. Jamie Hayter
Speaker 4: tried to put Sky through a table. She couldn't. Then
Speaker 4: they went through a waterfall sequence where everybody was doing
Speaker 4: their finishers. Brian, did you notice Mercedes Money changed the
Speaker 4: money maker.
Speaker 1: She changed it.
Speaker 4: She changed it. She no longer spun into a DDT.
Speaker 4: She actually went the other way and turned it into
Speaker 4: a facebuster.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, slight change, but good change, good change. As the
Speaker 4: Sheriff of Rottingham would say, Harley, Oh my dear, Harley
Speaker 4: pulled out Minnie Money Brian and I was ready to
Speaker 4: lose it. Here the woman's blood and guts. And what
Speaker 4: does she do? She pulls out a puppet. But alas
Speaker 4: it was a go as Mercedes Monet, much to my appreciation,
Speaker 4: took this puppet tossed it in the abyss. But Harley
Speaker 4: then revealed brass knuckles leveled Mercedes with them. Thank you,
Speaker 4: that was a good Finally a good puppet spot Becla
Speaker 4: and Julia Hart whispered something to Mercedes. They snuck through
Speaker 4: the metal trussing, took out the referee, Mike Posey. They
Speaker 4: took the key from him, opened the door. They all
Speaker 4: started pulling the baby faces out of the ring. But
Speaker 4: uh then the baby faces kind of made a comeback.
Speaker 4: Pure chaos. Stat and Mercedes are climbing the metal above
Speaker 4: the table that's displaying all of Mercedes belts statlander Samoan
Speaker 4: dropped her off of the metal through this table. Tony
Speaker 4: inside the ring, pulled out her champagne glass her and
Speaker 4: Mina ddt and Marina onto it. Tony pulled out a mirror,
Speaker 4: put it on Marina's face and charged at her, but
Speaker 4: Marina popped up, threw this mirror into her face, shatters everywhere.
Speaker 4: Willow then gives Megan Bain this awful superplex into the
Speaker 4: middle of the ring. In between the two rings, Mina
Speaker 4: locks on a figure four leg lock with a bar
Speaker 4: wire bat. Marina then stomps her barefoot into all this
Speaker 4: glass and then stomps Mina with the foot with the
Speaker 4: glass sticking out of it. They threw her into the glass.
Speaker 4: Marina locked on the mother's milk. The rest of the
Speaker 4: baby faces besides Tony, other than Tony were locked outside
Speaker 4: and Megan Baine beat Mina with the title belt as
Speaker 4: the rest of the Heels held Tony watching, forcing her
Speaker 4: to surrender in order to save her love. Mina, Shirakawa
Speaker 4: and the Heels celebrated as Tony and Mina were laying
Speaker 4: in the ring embracing and uh.
Speaker 2: Hey, it was.
Speaker 1: Brutal watch that Watch what I just sent you. Watch
Speaker 1: what I just sent you? Yeah it was.
Speaker 4: It was unforgettable match.
Speaker 1: As advertised and uh yeah hopefully James. Yeah, can you
Speaker 1: look at that? What was she thinking?
Speaker 4: I swung it like she was like gonna hit her
Speaker 4: like right there, not throw it.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty sure that Jamie lost teeth and like
Speaker 1: her mouth is all messed up in her face.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, brutal.
Speaker 1: What was she thinking? Dude? I have no earthly idea.
Speaker 1: I watched that and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I had to quit wrestling. I would have retired on
Speaker 1: the spot after that spot. Right there, we had Hangman
Speaker 1: and Hobbs no title.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I left that Brian thinking like, you've got
Speaker 4: to imagine that Tony and Mina are gonna win that
Speaker 4: tag title tournament. Now, well, after seeing how they were
Speaker 4: left here.
Speaker 1: I think there are either gonna win the tournament or
Speaker 1: I think I think that matches in the semis.
Speaker 4: So it's against Marina and Baine. Yeah right, but even then.
Speaker 1: I do expect them to win the tournament.
Speaker 4: The other team is the Sisters of Sin. Yeah, who
Speaker 4: would be the Heill team, So.
Speaker 1: I think they win the tournament. I thought that the
Speaker 1: day that they did their thing backstage and both lost
Speaker 1: to the pay per view.
Speaker 4: Okay, so there was also a thing with the Young
Speaker 4: Bucks and Don Kallas, Yeah, and uh Josh, Alexander Otsuka
Speaker 4: and Okada. There they delivered a beating up Jack Perry
Speaker 4: to the Young Bucks trailer Callous wants them to join
Speaker 4: the family next week because they have a million dollar
Speaker 4: tag match on the special three hour Dynamite. Mm hm
Speaker 4: ah if they're all three hours whatever. Hangman out of
Speaker 4: Page and Powerhouse Hobbs false count anywhere. Hangman immediately tore
Speaker 4: off the turnbuckle pad. They brawled outside Hobbs dobe shoulder
Speaker 4: first in their ring steps. Page left off of them
Speaker 4: into the grasp of Hobbs, who body slanted him off
Speaker 4: the apron on the announced desk onto the steel steps.
Speaker 4: They started throwing up tweet from Randos like it's the UFC.
Speaker 4: No Paul Fontaine tweet on the screen, But I did
Speaker 4: like this touch. I think it's kind of cool. Then
Speaker 4: we had what is also a contender for the worst
Speaker 4: day on the show. Powerhouse Hobbs looks he's got a
Speaker 4: power bomb or pile drive Hangman Page off the announced
Speaker 4: desk and Hangman. Page simply back drops him, but power
Speaker 4: Hubs correct, Powerhouse, it is ten feet up in the air.
Speaker 4: He rotates and lands directly on top of his tailbone,
Speaker 4: pops up in the air. He's not selling on the ground.
Speaker 4: He immediately pops up and runs over to the barricade
Speaker 4: in pain. They fought under the crowd. That looked brutal.
Speaker 4: They fought under the crowd. Eventually Hangman knocked Hobbs off
Speaker 4: of the uh off the like what is entry in
Speaker 4: aisleway or something with a boot through some tables and
Speaker 4: he got the win. I love this match. Actually, Shabata
Speaker 4: and Joe jumped Page. After the match, the cage lowered
Speaker 4: until Hook and Eddie Kingston ran down to make the save,
Speaker 4: and the crowd channer for Eddie, even though it seems
Speaker 4: like he's out of place in this entire feud. Hangman said,
Speaker 4: if Joe wants him to steal cage, he should have
Speaker 4: just asked, because at full gear it'll be Samoa Joe
Speaker 4: versus Hangman in that steel cage. And then we talked
Speaker 4: about the FTR and Steamboat segment earlier, and then we
Speaker 4: had the main event, the Men's Blood and Guts and
Speaker 4: this started with Darby and Wheeler. They retreated to the floor.
Speaker 4: Darby vaulted himself at Udah on the floor and they
Speaker 4: kept fighting around it as the crowd hated da Darby
Speaker 4: had a thumbtack covered skateboard he use on Wheeler. He
Speaker 4: did a double stomp off the top onto him as
Speaker 4: Orange Cassidy was taunting his former trainee. I really liked
Speaker 4: the It's a small touch, but the Death Riders all
Speaker 4: their music starts the same and then it goes into
Speaker 4: their different themes, so it was a small bit of
Speaker 4: suspense every time their music would hit, which I really liked.
Speaker 4: Daniel Garcia was in Renee was backstage looking for Mark Briscoe,
Speaker 4: who was incapacitated. She kylo' riley and Roger Strong found him,
Speaker 4: beaten up, bloody. Roderck took his spot, ran down there,
Speaker 4: ran through everyone, wisely grabbed the chair as Claudio was next.
Speaker 4: Claudio came in, did a giant swing to Darby with
Speaker 4: Orange Cassidy on his back, then running gorilla press Darby
Speaker 4: halfway across the ring into the eye opposite ring. Moxie
Speaker 4: came in with a fork. Darby dropped off the top
Speaker 4: of the trussing onto everybody. Pack came out looking more
Speaker 4: jacked than anyone I think I've seen. In twenty twenty five,
Speaker 4: Brisco made his way out after being almost killed backstage.
Speaker 4: He gave Yuda a j driller on top of the cage.
Speaker 4: Darby had a cattle prod but Gabe kid jumped him
Speaker 4: choked him out. Orange Cassidy put his hands in his pockets,
Speaker 4: but Claudio beat the crap out of him. Moxie stapled
Speaker 4: his hands into his pockets. Gabe and Pac tried to
Speaker 4: hang Darby, but he fought back. Then instead, they set
Speaker 4: some tables on fire and pock Gorilla pressed slam Darby
Speaker 4: through them. But hey, we saw Moxie set on fire
Speaker 4: a few months ago and he suffered no damage, so
Speaker 4: I'm sure Darby will be okay. Orange Cassie made a comeback.
Speaker 4: Roder Strong made a comeback, made a comeback, Strong kept
Speaker 4: making a comeback. Orange landed a punch on Moxley. Roger
Speaker 4: launched Youda into a table and threw it. Claudio cut
Speaker 4: off an Orange punch, but Cassidy landed another one, landed
Speaker 4: one on Moxley. O'reiley locked on the ankle lock and
Speaker 4: Moxley alone fought countered into a bulldog, but got put
Speaker 4: right back into an arm bar into the ankle lock.
Speaker 4: And after weeks and weeks and weeks, John Moxley, trapped
Speaker 4: in glass alone in the middle of the ring, with
Speaker 4: no death Riders to save him, had no choice but
Speaker 4: to tap the mat and signal defeat. He submitted at
Speaker 4: the hands of Kylo O'Reilly. Finish. It was perfect, great
Speaker 4: build up over the past couple months weeks to this match,
Speaker 4: and you could see the death Rider's confidence deteriorating, not
Speaker 4: only in themselves but in mocks. As the show goes
Speaker 4: off the.
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Speaker 1: Do you finish that Dynamite review? Filthy Tom Lawler, Brian
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Speaker 1: Brandon here has sent astute text message. Do you think
Speaker 1: this is leading to Kyle O'Reilly getting a push? Well?
Speaker 1: It sure as heck better. It's sure better. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe he's gonna be the guy that I guess we
Speaker 1: gotta figure this out now, because I mean there's seventy
Speaker 1: five titles. But the funny thing is they got all
Speaker 1: these belts, but when you really think about it, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: which one Kyle win? Because I mean, we've already got
Speaker 1: the international title match with Mark Risco with the big
Speaker 1: stipulation of the pay review. All of the other belts
Speaker 1: are tied up by Ocada.
Speaker 4: That's the TNT title.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. The TNT title is
Speaker 1: the International by Ocada. Sorry, Ocatta's got the International. I
Speaker 1: guess we could do. Uh this new one right? This
Speaker 1: national title?
Speaker 4: Yea is the International? Then it's got a different name.
Speaker 4: Is he the continental champion?
Speaker 1: He's the International champion because they unified the International and
Speaker 1: the continent unified title. Oh my god, I can't even
Speaker 1: think of a belt to This is another topic for
Speaker 1: another day. I'll be back tonight.
Speaker 4: What Kyle O'Reilly?
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with anything? I'll be
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