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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is a factory of gladness.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I am joined. I

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What's up, boys, Merry Christmas Eve from NFL Networks Podcast

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Speaker 1: headquarters in Culver City. We're always here. What what a

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Speaker 1: night to be spending together a festive atmosphere. Mark glowing

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Speaker 1: in his Brown's sweater and good reason too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Greg has never celebrated Christmas. I celebrate Christmas every year

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Speaker 1: in my life. Well, you have it all. That's the facts.

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Speaker 1: You have it all. And you know we're kind of

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Speaker 1: with our family. You know what I'm saying. Guys, I

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Speaker 1: guess yeah, I agree. I celebrate Saturday. Now. You Pagans

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Speaker 1: had the right idea. Um, I'm ready. I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: go home to my family. But it's a job to

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Speaker 1: be done here, okay, And that is talking about all

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Speaker 1: the football um that was played on Saturday Saturday of

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Speaker 1: exciting football. By the way, this is UM our Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Recap Show, Saturday edition, sponsored by Friday and brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Tuesday by your good friends on Monday

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Speaker 1: and Wednesday, so crystal clear. Oh and Mr F in

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Speaker 1: his economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this morning, about ten minutes after I woke up, the

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Speaker 1: USPS knocked on my door with a gigantic gift package

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Speaker 1: of wonderment from Mr F, who delivered gifts for all

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Speaker 1: of us, including Sydney. I've got to get you one, Sydney.

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Speaker 1: What a guy shipped it from his UH family's home

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Speaker 1: in Colorado. What do you get for the girl that

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Speaker 1: literally has everything? Well, I think he made He might

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Speaker 1: see what she opens it. Um. Okay, yes, thank you

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Speaker 1: Mr F. You're the man. Thank you everybody for listening.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening it uh tonight or done Christmas or

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Speaker 1: the day after UH, you know that we love you

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Speaker 1: and and this has been a great season with you

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Speaker 1: and happy to spend the holidays with you. And and

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Speaker 1: I was all set to open the show, by the

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Speaker 1: way and talk about how the all four of the

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Speaker 1: Um had huge days today Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Aaron

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Speaker 1: So on this Christmas Eve, where you know it's all

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Speaker 1: about good cheer and um, you know, being warm and

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Speaker 1: with your family, we have to start with a terrible situation.

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Speaker 1: It happened at the black Hole. Let's start there with

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Speaker 1: the first game of the day, one from the five

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Speaker 1: toss of this first half. Yes, that was Jim Nance

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Speaker 1: of CBS. Derek Carr through for three touchdowns, no interceptions,

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders stayed in a hunt for the number

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Speaker 1: one seed with a thirty win over the Colts. But

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Speaker 1: this was a hollow, painful victory for Oakland, who lost

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Speaker 1: Car to a broken fibula in the third quarter of

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Speaker 1: fracture out indefinitely translation out until two thousand seventeen. You

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Speaker 1: would think, Chris Westling, the Raiders were shaping up as

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Speaker 1: the field good story of the playoffs. In one instant,

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Speaker 1: all that promise wiped away. If you could draw up

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Speaker 1: a scenario that would have Raiders fans flying as high

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Speaker 1: as possible. End of the third quarter. Was it five

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Speaker 1: straight drives touchdown drives led by Derek Carr? The running

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Speaker 1: with DeAndre Washington involved a new element to that running game.

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Speaker 1: and he goes down and Dan, I think you saw

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Speaker 1: it was for this Raiders team that thought they could

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Speaker 1: Where's my lollipop? Said? We're the lollipops every week, you know?

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Speaker 1: QB hit they had all day. That's that's terrible, lots

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Speaker 1: coming from people's frustration. Time sports suck. That happens and

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. The football God said no

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Speaker 1: him a clip of Michael Jordan's that's Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 1: Rex tried to ice Uh Frank's on the play, but

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Speaker 1: his time alcohol came. It's too late, and it was

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Speaker 1: ignored by the official ouch Rex. We'll talk about Rex

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Speaker 1: a little bit more Uh in a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 1: but let's now move. Unfortunately, we're not done talking about

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Speaker 1: broken legs involving young star passers. Shotgun for mortals and

435
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Speaker 1: run reverse and and Markis's gonna throw it back to

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Speaker 1: blank blank it open to the five into the end zone. Touchdown.

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Speaker 1: There's a gadget for you. Marky Sleet took the pats

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Speaker 1: from portals and then he threw a pass back to

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Speaker 1: its quarterback for the touchdown. Frank Frangie or Frangie w

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Speaker 1: O k V with the call you know, I like

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Speaker 1: what you do said, like with Bob Socie, you give

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Speaker 1: me the pronunciation on the print out. I'm gonna need

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Speaker 1: it for a couple of these. Get left alone on

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Speaker 1: Bob Frankie slash Frengie Yeah, that one didn't have. Apparently

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Speaker 1: they assume you should just know how to seal. Jimmy

446
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Speaker 1: Cefalo played for the Dolphin Cedric Sabalos anyways, Pedie Gonzalez

447
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Speaker 1: Cedric Sabalos. The Doug Moron Revolution has begun. The jack Guars,

448
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: with the help of a strangely bizarrely effective Blake Bortles

449
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: expertly played the role of spoiler and at seventeen win

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Speaker 1: over the Tennessee Titans at the Chlorine Factory in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? For nicknames like it,

452
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: it's clear it's actually very factual. Yeah, West, This mark

453
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: the end of the road for the Titoons who laid

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Speaker 1: an egg in a big spot and lost Marcus Mariotta

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Speaker 1: to yes a broken fibul In the NFL, you have

456
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: to get used to loss. Only one of thirty two

457
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Speaker 1: teams stands the top at the end of the season,

458
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: and unlike other sports, you continually lose throughout the season.

459
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Speaker 1: You lose players a lot of times, you lose coaches.

460
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: At the end of the year, you lose even more coaches.

461
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: Titans lost Marcus Mariotta and then they had to watch

462
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Speaker 1: Matt Castle come in and knew that their season was over.

463
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Speaker 1: Matt Castle is not taking you to the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: in frankly, they ran into a bus all today. Doug

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Speaker 1: Morons Jaguars played with a lot more zest and zeal

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Speaker 1: than Gus Bradley's Jaguars did. Let's not let the Titans

467
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Speaker 1: off the hook here, and they proved me wrong with

468
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: that great one and arrowhead. But even before the injury,

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00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: they stunk in this game. They were getting outplayed thoroughly

470
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Speaker 1: by a Jaguars team that obviously has nothing to play for.

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00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: So again, they're just like so many other teams in

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Speaker 1: this league where they're a week to week proposition, and

473
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Speaker 1: this this week they were a bad Titans. They were.

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Speaker 1: They were an up and down offense lately. You know,

475
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: I know, the running game had a good first half

476
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Speaker 1: against the Broncos, but they ended up with thirteen points.

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Speaker 1: They didn't do anything in the first three quarters. Last week,

478
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: great fourth quarter, didn't do anything in the first three quarters. Today.

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Speaker 1: Would have been nice to see Marcus Mariott to get

480
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Speaker 1: a chance to pull off some comeback, but I don't

481
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Speaker 1: think it was gonna happen the way their defense played

482
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: today anyways, And That's why I said, Dan, don't worry

483
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Speaker 1: about that bandwagon this year, because they're not ready to

484
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Speaker 1: win this year. They're a year away. They won three

485
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Speaker 1: games last year. This was a great scene well, phenomenal

486
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: GM in the league added more to his roster and

487
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Speaker 1: more more parts that contributed right away than John Robinson.

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Speaker 1: So yes, they don't make the playoffs this year. In

489
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Speaker 1: the in the season ends in disastrous fashion, but I

490
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Speaker 1: can't think of too many young AFC teams with a

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Speaker 1: fan base that has more to look forward. Well, they're

492
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Speaker 1: gonna be around, to be clear, And this is a

493
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Speaker 1: tricky spot. We're taping this during the Saturday night Christmas

494
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Speaker 1: Eve Texans game. The Titans, as we're taping it, are

495
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Speaker 1: not out of this. But it's Thursday Night Football on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night, Saturday Night Special Football Game Day Live. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know, So it's it's tricky as we're taping this.

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Speaker 1: You know, for instance, that Matt Castle was playing the Texans,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, the Texans aren't some world

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Speaker 1: beating team that I think would have no chance from

501
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Speaker 1: from from a realistic angle, though even if they sneak

502
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Speaker 1: in the season is over. I'm just saying Matt Castle

503
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: might be the worst player in the NFL currently. The

504
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: everything is in place. Now for the Titans, we'll get

505
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Speaker 1: we'll give them lollipop. Lollipop given nice season this year.

506
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Speaker 1: Now you gotta take the next step. And that means

507
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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota's hit the ground running next season, which you

508
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: didn't do until mid October. And all these other pieces

509
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: need to fall into place for them really to be

510
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: a superpower. But a nice start, just a sour ending today.

511
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Oh, there's nothing sour about what happened

512
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland today. Nine seconds, but the clock is running.

513
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: It's down the seven seconds. They set it down at

514
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Speaker 1: the thirty five, it's down to four three to one.

515
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: They got it off, the kick on the way, hand

516
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Speaker 1: up and the kicks off and it is good. Good

517
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Speaker 1: crawnp won it if yd field goal no good at

518
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Speaker 1: the absolute list, chick of o'clock and it's all in fourteen.

519
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: No more on Chris received Browns or a winner that

520
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: might be at the top of the list, that might

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Speaker 1: be number one. Donovan has suffered through a lot of

522
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Speaker 1: bad football into the top ten with a bullet said, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Donovan, there with the call. They did it. They

524
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Speaker 1: finally did it. Josh Lamba's forty six yard field goal

525
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Speaker 1: attempt this time expired when wide right, and the Browns

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Speaker 1: have avoided oh and sixteen infamy with win over the

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Speaker 1: San Diego Not So Superchargers. Um Mark, before we get

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Speaker 1: to Mark, I wanna throw it to Hugh Jackson. Here's

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Speaker 1: what the Browns coach had to say after improving to

530
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Speaker 1: one in fourteen. It's about those guys. It's a heck

531
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: of a Christmas present for all involved. Um, because these

532
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: guys worked so hard and they've given me everything they

533
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: have and so I can't thank are this team enough

534
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: for what they do. Every week they try to go

535
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: out and win a game, and today we're finally successful.

536
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Speaker 1: So today was a good day for the Browns. Mark,

537
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: you weren't thrilled when they won this game. You were

538
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Speaker 1: happy a little later in the day. But this was

539
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Speaker 1: a nice day for the Cleveland franchise. It's I'm I'm

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00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: thrilled for Hugh Jackson and for the front office and

541
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: for everyone involved with a team that would have continued

542
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: to just been ripped on and made fun of all

543
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: offseason had they gone on sixteen from that angle, I

544
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Speaker 1: am happy. It was a half measure in my book,

545
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Speaker 1: had from a team building process. They lost the number

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Speaker 1: one pick in it, and there's something to be said

547
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Speaker 1: that from a I'm glad they're not own sixteen, But

548
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: at what point am I supposed to express downright joy

549
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: the team. I know it's not popular that I wasn't

550
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: dancing around when they won the game, but it's been

551
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: an incredibly rough run for Browns fans. I'm happy for

552
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: those those fans that go to the stadium week after

553
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: week and finally saw something worth their money. But this

554
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: is a product that still needs so much work that

555
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: I you know, yes, I'm a little too hardened to

556
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Speaker 1: be have people come up and pat me on the

557
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: head and say, you got your win, have nice, have

558
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: a nice time. It's it's good they didn't go over

559
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Speaker 1: in sixteen. I know, Dan, I feel like you don't

560
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: agree with me too, but you're not a Browns fan.

561
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: You have I've watched I've not missed a game in

562
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: thirty one years. This is my my unique perspective the

563
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Jets fan. So I know pain as well, and I

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Speaker 1: the reason I disagree is because, like the video after

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00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: the game, of what went on in the Browns lock

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Speaker 1: that part. I don't disagree with Thomas crying in the

567
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: locker room, Hugh Jackson so emotional. They all huddle up

568
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: and hug that. Thomas said he had he used to

569
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: say it, but that was their super Bowl and I

570
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: couldn't be more happy for Joe Thomas and for Hugh Jackson.

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00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: That's different is Yeah, it's been a horrible run for

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00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: the Browns, uh and for fans of the Browns, but

573
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: you gotta take It's still just a game and you

574
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: have to to me take the good moments when they come.

575
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: And for the Browns, it was today that when the

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00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: dramatic way it ended. That's why I was I was

577
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: personally surprised that you were. I am happy for them.

578
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't upset. I don't know what

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00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: the reaction was. People were acting like they had made

580
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and it's like I would like, I would

581
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: like to see the team achieve more before you start

582
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: to get me, you know, having mountaintop moments in the newsroom.

583
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: I think there's an element that also we're at work

584
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Speaker 1: and I was in the middle of doing something else

585
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: at the moment. And it's like, I don't know what.

586
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm happy again for the organization. It is a huge

587
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: monkey off the back, but there is so much more

588
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: to achieve for any of the them to keep their job.

589
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: The fans, you know, the fans are going crazy. They

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00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm happy for any everyone that found joined it. I

591
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: am I mean and I and if if my reaction

592
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: was you know, off putting to anyone in our newsroom,

593
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: It's like, I am loyal to this team. I've watched

594
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: every single one of their games. I'll know when to celebrate.

595
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: As somebody who went through a lost decade and saw

596
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals lose the first eight games of the season

597
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: multiple times and being embarrassment and laughing stock, gotta totally

598
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: get where Mark's coming from. What's one more utter failure

599
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: and in laughing stock moment in two decades of utility?

600
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's it's not that big of a

601
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: deal if they went oh in sixteen compared to what

602
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: you've already had to put up with, uh scarlet letter

603
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: and sixteen. And that's why that's why people are I mean,

604
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: because it's not the Browns are already a laughing stock, Like,

605
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: what's the scarlet letter to sixteen stays. But for the people,

606
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean you, you ultimately do route for the people.

607
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: But we've already established that we're happy for the price.

608
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: But ian happier n They've been hurt by the last

609
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: two decades, much worse than an O and sixteen season

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00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: would have hurt, right, No, I mean, I mean Joe Thomas,

611
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: who's gonna gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer,

612
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: sobbing in the locker room because he's a proud guy,

613
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: and that would probably haunt him for the rest of

614
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: his life. And it's fun to win. It's not that serious,

615
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: that's the thing. In a way, it's not that serious.

616
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: So you win a game and for that one day,

617
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is happy, and for that one day, Chargers

618
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: fans are thinking, like nothing can get worse for them.

619
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Speaker 1: That the Browns kind of finally met something stronger than

620
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: their own six and sixteen quest, which is the Chargers

621
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Speaker 1: inability to win in the fourth quarter. They're the worst

622
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: fourth quarter team in football. And they probably got their

623
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Speaker 1: coach fired today. If if he wasn't fired, I think

624
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: they probably did. I think that. I don't know what else, what,

625
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: how you argue for yourself if you're the Chargers coach. Alright,

626
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: So with the win, the Browns had temporarily fallen out

627
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: of the number one pick spot, but that changed later

628
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Speaker 1: in the day. Rolling the dice, Kaepernick rolling running and

629
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Speaker 1: and for the two point conversion. That's just heart breaking

630
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: for the Rams. Come on this TV call? Well the

631
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: TV calls aren't the same. Uh, do we have a

632
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: bottom five of calls? That's right? There a little more

633
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: excitement there at one point, and then the game he

634
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: went for two to win the game. It was great.

635
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: It's Chris Meyers with Rende barbered. Rende Barber after this

636
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: exclaimed this rivalry is alive between the forty Niners. Uh

637
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: and Rams? Anyway? Uh? The yes, Colin Kaepernick's two point

638
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: conversion run with and I'll give some excitement onions alert

639
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: h thirty seconds to play? Was the difference is The

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Speaker 1: forty Niners snapped the thirteen game losing streak with a

641
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: win over the Los Angeles Rams at the Coliseum. You

642
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: know you're a Rams fan. You decide to go to

643
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: the Coliseum on Christmas Eve and this is how you get.

644
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: It's pretty packed. It was pretty packed, and you watch

645
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: Jared Goff have ninety yards passing with two interceptions and

646
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: a touch of They've had a lot of low moments.

647
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: That was a great moment for Chip Kelly and as

648
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: low a moment as it's been for the Rams, and

649
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: what a moment for the brown Seriously that it all

650
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: worked out perfectly. You know what I'm saying, we need

651
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: to win this game. Cody Kesler comes off the bench,

652
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: gets the Browns off the schneide and they and they

653
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: got a statue to him engraved with a speech that

654
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler made at halftime Tim Tebow style that they

655
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: still have the one pick, that they have the number

656
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: one pick. Greg could not agree more with you. Greg.

657
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: This is a this is winning in full measure, where

658
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: you get a victory and you get the number one pick.

659
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: To have the win cost you the number one pick

660
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: is not something I was excited and Kesler did. Kessler

661
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: to coleman Key first came off the bench, which that

662
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: tells us that at some point and I'm proud of you. Greg.

663
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Speaker 1: On Saturday afternoon, while the games were reached out to

664
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Speaker 1: Sydney privately and said, you know, pull this pull my

665
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: greatness from the previous podcast, I'm proud of you for

666
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: going down that well. It was really the Kester thing.

667
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: I was exciting and in the end, I wanted this

668
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: whole scenario to happen, and the scenario needed to different.

669
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: It was perfect. A Niner's offensive lineman after the two

670
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: point conversion got hit with a um you know, personal

671
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: foul for sticking of football in the face of a

672
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: Rams player. And then after the kickoff that was pushed back.

673
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: The Rams took over at the forty three yard line

674
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: with third with about twenty one seconds or so or

675
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: twenty seconds about twenty yards at that point, three time outs,

676
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: and I tweeted at the time, this is a nice

677
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: little moment opportunity for Jared Goff. His first past probably

678
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: should have been caught, but it was an out that

679
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: was low and wasn't The catch wasn't made by his receiver.

680
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: His second past terrible downfield. He eyes his receiver the

681
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: whole way and then it was intercepted. So Goff west

682
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: not even remotely ready for that moment against arguably the

683
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: worst team in football. It's hard to find a more

684
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: depressing operation. Right now, Jered Goff has been so much

685
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: worse than case Keenum who was arguably the worst starting

686
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, and Todd Gurley having a season

687
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: out of Trent Richardson's career. I am, I am extremely

688
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: I'm already exhausted in this this. I've read this this

689
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: morning in multiple places about Coach X wanting to go

690
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: uh to the Rams potentially because of the extreme talent

691
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: on the Rams. They've got a franchise quarterback locked in place,

692
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: and they've got so many players on both sides of

693
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: the ball. Who are what who is watching the games

694
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: from this team? There is there are a couple of

695
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: talented players, But slow down on framing the Rams as

696
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: some sort of a plus destination outside of the fact

697
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: that it's in Los Angeles. Let's not let's let's beat

698
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: the forty night. Let's not get swept by the forty

699
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: niners before we get too excited. Uh, let's move on

700
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: to the throne of these shotgun staff to Brady with

701
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: thirty one seconds to go, shuffles up Losso thrown white,

702
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: He's got wide open behind touch dot Patrio to the right, Pilon.

703
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's a different way of thinking with

704
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: this football team. Their postseason mode. Great strike by Brady

705
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: twenty five yard touchdown pass Bob Socy and Scott Zolak.

706
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that Scott Zolak every week with

707
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: this guy w b Z with the call no trap

708
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: game here the Patriots embarrassed and undermanned and under under talented.

709
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: Is that even work? It doesn't matter. Jets squad. A

710
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: forty one three win, that inch New England ever closer

711
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: to the a f c's number one seed. And if

712
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: ever there was an appropriate time to be playing the

713
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: throne Abs theme, it's right now. Not only do you

714
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: get to whoop up on an embarrassing Jets team at

715
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: home on Christmas Eve, you're number one, top threat in

716
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: the a f C. The Raiders see their season end

717
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: in Week sixteen. Hell week seventeen, you get the Dolphins

718
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: and j Gies banged up. It's just it is a

719
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: wide open path to the Super Bowl for the Patson

720
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: and they do look a lot different now. As our

721
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: friend Mr Zolac said then at the end of last season,

722
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Tom Brady kept his name Greg in the m v

723
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: P race three touchdowns. Jets were pathetic, so everything you

724
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: want to see though, the defense has been playing bad teams,

725
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: but they've been dominant. They've been dominating against those bad teams,

726
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: and that's that's what you want to see. I mean,

727
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: there's nothing more you can do. Bryce Petty left the

728
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: game with an injury through three quarters. This is a

729
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: wild stat The Jets had just as many turnovers for

730
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: as they had completions. Yeah, that's what you want to

731
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: see out of your defense. You're the Patriots, and that's

732
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: the side I'm kind of worried about. And I think

733
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: they can win different sorts of games now. They can

734
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: be complementary, a little defense, little running, little Brady. The

735
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: difference between the teams, uh in this game, UH was startling,

736
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: and I think they were you know, the desert people

737
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: knew that, but it was scary to see. Even the

738
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Speaker 1: Jets owner Woody Johnson didn't even go to this game, which, Uh,

739
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: you start to wonder what's going on in that building.

740
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: As the blowouts pile up. I think they've been beat

741
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: by around thirty points and three out of the last

742
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: four games. Uh. And you know, the Pats look great,

743
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: They look tremendous. Jets had just two d thirty nights

744
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: total yards. The entire you know, Bryce Petty audition was

745
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: a farce from the start. He has he has no

746
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: opportunity with this offensive line, and he hasn't made the

747
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: throws when he's had the chance. And now he's probably

748
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: out for the year. He heard something pop in his shoulder. Um,

749
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: so forget about that. So we'll see what happens and

750
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: it sets up, guys a little hot. But Bowl between Rex,

751
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: Ryan and Todd Bowls in week seventeen. Oh what a

752
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: what a fun scene that will be in week seventeen.

753
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: You can cover that game. Dan, you uh you stick

754
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: up for the Jets on Thursday, saying that you thought

755
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: let stick for Bowls. Well, no, but that the team

756
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: had not quit on him on any level. Um, and

757
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: I didn't. I I need to watch this one closer.

758
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: Actually I don't. But do you believe that they are

759
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: completely plugged in as a team and be do you

760
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: if you had a guest, does Bowls coach this team

761
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: next season? I think he's back. I'm gonna still think

762
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: say he's back. And there is They got to get

763
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: rid of a couple of bad apple Sheldon Richards. And

764
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: again this guy feels like a like a superhero's arch villain.

765
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: Can this guy just stay out of that when told

766
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: that Brandon Marshall had said that the game was embarrassing. Uh,

767
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: he said that, Um, that Brandon Marshall should be the

768
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: one that's should be embarrassing, and then said, oh, I

769
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't say anything scratch, I mean get that. He also

770
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: said he knows what he did. Get the hell out

771
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: of town. We don't want you here, guy. I mean,

772
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: let's be a little honest here. How many locker rooms

773
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: has Brandon Marshall been kicked out of in his career?

774
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: But you're right, and that's totally fair. But Brandon Marshall

775
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: has been a really good teammate last season and this

776
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: season during a lot of crap with a lot of

777
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: bad quarterback play. Um, so, I don't know, we don't

778
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: know the story for that, but that is a bad situation.

779
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: And if if you're curious, and you're probably not listening

780
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: to this, the number one seed is something that the

781
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: NFL usually moves the times of the games to make

782
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: sure that every one is playing hard. So the Raiders

783
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 1: are in this thing and means the Patriots, maybe they'd

784
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: move that that Patriots Dolphins game, that's a big game

785
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: for both teams. That could be the playoffs on the

786
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: line for the Dolphins and the one seed on the

787
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: line for the Patriots. Where they moved that game to,

788
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Speaker 1: I mean they move it later in the day maybe

789
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: so it's the same time as the Raiders. I mean,

790
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: so they they're playing at the same time. So and

791
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Speaker 1: uh and Mark, to answer your question, I think it's

792
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: even worse to say this, but I don't think this

793
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: was an effort issue. The Jets are this bad right

794
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: now with their roster that going against a stud team

795
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: like New England, it doesn't get it. Just crazy. They

796
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: won ten games a year ago. I mean, they've been

797
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: the most injured team in the league, but they're also

798
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: a terrible team moving on to a better team. Ryan

799
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Speaker 1: on a playfak again, gonna throw it for Perkins, a

800
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: catch and score for Atlanta, Shoshua Perkins into the end zone.

801
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: And I mean a big time catch by the rookie

802
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: Westernham easy g C. I've never heard of that. That

803
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: was a person. That was the person. The Falcons are

804
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: gaining steam as we had toward the regular season finish line.

805
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan twenty seven thirty three two seven yards, two touchdowns.

806
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: The Falcons a thirty three sixteen winner over the Panthers

807
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: that clinches the NFC South title for the Falcons, Mark

808
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: Atlanta thrived in the air and on the ground in

809
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: this game. I wouldn't want my team to see this, uh,

810
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: this squad in the first round with you, not at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Ryan could not have been more white

812
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: hot coming out of the gate. I mean, his first

813
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: half stats were unbelievably started ten of ten, absolutely blew

814
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: up the Carolina Panthers. It got it, It got closer,

815
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, at one point in the third quarter, but

816
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: then the Falcons they just have so many ways to

817
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: dial up plays and to and to find holes in coverage.

818
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: Thirty three points feels low for a team that dropped

819
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: eighty three over the last two tilts. So I look,

820
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to see anything bad happen

821
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: to knock these teams have to some of these seatings.

822
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: But I think the Falcons in the number two seed,

823
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: did they take over Seattle. They deserve it. They are

824
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: the most explosive team on offense right now, and the

825
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: best chance for an NFC title game against the Cowboys

826
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: if it gets to that point, that could be truly

827
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: competitive and fun to watch in a season in which

828
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: it seems like all thirty two teams have been the

829
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: number one defense in the league. At some point, everybody's

830
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: had their share on that one, and a team like

831
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a two game stumble against the Vikings

832
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: and Giants where their offense didn't play to its capabilities.

833
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: The Packers went through a month where they weren't playing well.

834
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: The Falcons offense has been the metronome in the NFL.

835
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: They have been the unstoppable, week in week out, best

836
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Speaker 1: offense in the NFL, credibly consistent, The average thirty three

837
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: points a game heading into this game, scored thirty three

838
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: more today if you think about it. Whoa hello, oh yeah,

839
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Speaker 1: this is an audio program, So to inform the listeners,

840
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: West Christopher Wesley just raised his hand. I've been on

841
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: these Falcons all year, and I like what I've seen.

842
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: That's two locks so far today, right, Yeah, I mean

843
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: they're they're ten in five and you know, they blew

844
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: a few fourth quarters. You know, they blew one against

845
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they have the close game against the Seahawks.

846
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: They blew another lead against the Chargers, a big lead.

847
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: They're close. They haven't been great closing those game that

848
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: they're close to being a twelve thirteen win type of team.

849
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: They also feel like over the last three or four

850
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: weeks they're starting to operate at peak power on offense.

851
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: It's so it's I don't think you can blow a

852
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: game when you're up by twenty five points. Um, I

853
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: would ask the kissing cousins. You guys despised domes as

854
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: as everybody. Are you upset though the possibility of there

855
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: being multiple dome playoff games Falcons? I will not. I

856
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: don't think I'll enjoy the dome atmosphere, but I think

857
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: the Falcons offense is fun enough to watch that it

858
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: makes up for it. But there's nothing worse than a

859
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: dome playoffs. Two sneaky, really good playoff games in the

860
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Georgia Dome. The last time they were there were I

861
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: mean Hawks, and those are great. This time around. You

862
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: don't have to pump in fake crowd noise because the

863
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: team is giving something to cheer for. I I mean

864
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: with all things, yes, I typically don't like domes, but

865
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: I have no problem watching this team play multiple playoff games.

866
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: They're fun to watch. A solid, nuanced A nuanced answer

867
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: by both of you, guys, Let's move on, Greg and

868
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: uh and Greg, I didn't ask you though, Greg doesn't,

869
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't need to be asked. I'll just jump in.

870
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: That's I mean. When you are NFL Networks, Greg Rosenthal,

871
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: you know you don't need to be a kissing cousins.

872
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: Don't matter. Don't matter. You celebrate Christmas, you celebrate Hanukah,

873
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: you celebrate Easter, you celebrate flag Day. Everything that's coming

874
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: up roses for you don't think I should celebrate flag Day. Yeah,

875
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: that's the sticking. I'm not American. Music makes it sound

876
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: like Greg got turned into a lifetime movie. It could happen.

877
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: Let's move on and uh, see how the Redskins are doing.

878
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: Redskins the Bears seventeen. Here comes the heat Cousins, little

879
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: dup off, christops and the aft to the right side

880
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: of the ten of the five. He's gone a hole

881
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: and he's into the end. So for a Redskins touchdown.

882
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: Second score of the game for Chris TOMPs and Cousins

883
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: really bought some time that time. Sonny a good call.

884
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: Sonny Jurgensen, legendary quarterback not at the peak of his

885
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: announcing game that today it was the creature of the

886
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: Black Lagoon. I don't I don't care what you say.

887
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: Larry Michael and the creature of the Black Goon w

888
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: T E m with a call that's a Hall of

889
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: Famer Dan Kirk. That's gonna get back to the Redskins

890
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: organization somehow, some way, um Kirk Cousins had bringing on

891
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: had one touchdown through the air and two more on

892
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: the ground, and the Redskins bounced back from that ugly

893
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: Monday performance with a win over the Bears. Uh. The

894
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: little success story that was Matt Barkley derailed in this

895
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: one as the backup through five picks, including four in

896
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: the second half. And now let's swing on over to

897
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: tabulation corner to find out if the Redskins have a

898
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: clear path to the playoffs after today's win. I love

899
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: those numbers. It really depends on the Lions. I hate

900
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: to say that they are really rooting for the Lions

901
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: to lose those two games. Why do you hate to

902
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: say that? Well, I mean just because we're taping this early.

903
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: It's not a definitive answer. I'd like to give a yes,

904
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: and they're in the mix. The Buck's loss helped them,

905
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: but they needed the Bucks to lose one of those

906
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: two games, and now they got one. Tabulation corner. He

907
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: takes it very seriously, Yes he does so. The fact

908
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: he greg disappointed that he couldn't give him more concrete

909
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: answer tells you that he is invested. He hits home runs,

910
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't hit singles or doubles. Right, very nice. I

911
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: don't know what else there is to say about this game.

912
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: The Redskins were a much better team, but you got

913
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: you give him credit on a short week bouncing back

914
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: and and wiping out the Bears. Who um, you know,

915
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard is really the success story here. He had

916
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: another twenty yard game. But Matt Barkley, Uh, didn't give

917
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: them a chance in this game. Uh. Robert Kelly, I

918
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: believe left with an injury. I don't have to keep

919
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: a tab on that well that we Breedlan the Redskins

920
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: corner said every pass over fifteen yards that Matt Parsley row.

921
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: They all just looked each other and said, whose turn

922
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: is it now? This was kind of an early Kirk

923
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: Cousins type of performance from Barkley, where he just tried

924
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: to be the hero. I think in the second half

925
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: he started five games and he's gonna be knocking on

926
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: the door to the top ten and interceptions. That's not ideal.

927
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: The Redskins, by the way, play the Giants. We should

928
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: mention the Giants today. I've done some tabulations. Okay, back

929
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: to the corner we go. I mean this is a

930
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: big part of today. Yeah, Giants have clinched the playoff spot. Oh,

931
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: they're in, and so the rest get ready for some

932
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: more Giant football. Well, you know how the Raiders have

933
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: Matt McLoyd and the Dolphins have Matt Moore. The Giants

934
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: have Eli Manning, which is pretty similar. People have said

935
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff before. And but the Giants won't

936
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: have much to play for next week, and the Redskins

937
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: playing the Giants, it's gonna be a big game for them.

938
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: We'll see how the Giants handle it. Oh, I can't wait. West.

939
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: That's maybe that could be the West of us if

940
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: you really feel that strongly. Yeah, failing in the playoffs,

941
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: I mean I want to get behind Eli in the

942
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: playoffs to go against him, But I feel like I've

943
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: been rooting against Eli Manning as long as I've been

944
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: rooting against the Bengals, So it's pretty similar. Uh, let's

945
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: move on to our final game of this um Sunday

946
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: Night podcast Saturday special sponsored by Friday and brought to

947
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: you by Tunday by your good friends on Monday and Wednesday.

948
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: He sucks down. I tell you what, man, you couldn't

949
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: have started this half any worse, because if you're a

950
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan like Greg Rosenthal, Kenny Albert, and

951
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson of Fox with a call Drew Brees through

952
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: one touchdown pass and mark ingram Ran for two scores.

953
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: Hopefully he wasn't fuming on the sidelines if that wasn't enough,

954
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: as the Saints ended the Buccaneers feel good story with

955
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: a thirty win at the suit Mark Ssler three and

956
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: oh whoa. We are flying with the locks now and

957
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: the car we put We've put it into the safe.

958
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: We spin you know the wheel thing or like the

959
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: what is it? It's like a circular It's almost like

960
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: a a pirate ship wheel almost kind of like a

961
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: we spin the pirate ship wheel lock and then we

962
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: leave it there and then we go get it on

963
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Don't need to think about it again. I

964
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: gotta wait till Sunday for the Steelers. Bad job I

965
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: should have picked the lock that was on Saturday lollipops today. Anyway,

966
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: you're no Liberaci Greg, but you know we Greg the

967
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: Bucks were eight in six and leading the Cowboys on

968
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: Sunday at football in the fourth quarter just six days ago. Uh,

969
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: it feels like a more innocent time now, it does.

970
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: And yet eight and seven feels right for this team.

971
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: You know, their defense was good, it was a little

972
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: too dependent on takeaways. They didn't get that the last

973
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: few weeks. Give up thirty one points here and Jamis wins.

974
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: Then to me, needs to just raining in a little bit.

975
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: He's a little he's a little up and down. He's

976
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: a little, at least a little bit all over the play,

977
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: a little out of control, I would say, not with

978
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: his emotions, but his throws and the plays and everything

979
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: from drive to drive just seems, you know, two up

980
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: and down. He's a young quarterback. And that's that's what happened.

981
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: We talked about that's why you go out and seve.

982
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: We talked about Matt Barkley wanting to do too much?

983
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: Is maybe is there a little bit of that coming

984
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: on the team, trying so hard to be that feel

985
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: good squad. Absolutely I mean he is. He's like so

986
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: angry at Josh Huff for not beating uh a cornerback

987
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: in the open field that you can just like see

988
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: him like going crazy. And I'm kind of I'm thinking,

989
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: like he can't be worried about that too much. It's

990
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: like a young stallion needs to be broken in a

991
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: little bit. Your description reminds me of Brett Farve and

992
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren, just like smacking his palm against his head

993
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: every time Farv does something silly. Same thing, same thing.

994
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: And they played a quarterback, you know they played. This

995
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: was not a shutdown defense. It was a good defense

996
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: for five six weeks. I think it's it has the

997
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: makings of a good defense. I don't think it was

998
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a top five defense. Um, you want a

999
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: Jeopardy answer. They're not out of it officially, by the way.

1000
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: One more. It's like under one percent or something, isn't

1001
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: They They need a lot of things to happen. Uh,

1002
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, they need the Redskins, the Lions, like the

1003
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: Lions playing being lost at sea. It's a lot of things,

1004
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: all right, Little Jeopardy time, Greg, Who are Matt mcgloyd,

1005
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: Alex Smith Matt Moore, Tom Savage, Trevor Simeon, and Matt Castle.

1006
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Who are they? They're all quarterbacks in the I mean

1007
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: they're all I know you're looking for more in the

1008
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think all quarterbacks better than Eli Manning

1009
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: right now. All quarterbacks have never been in my kitchen.

1010
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: They're all quarterbacks who have a very good or moderate

1011
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: chance to be playing in the a f C playoffs

1012
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: against your boy. That is a complex I noticed I'm

1013
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: talking about. These are all terrible quarterbacks. The middle in

1014
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you get, what does that march through? There's

1015
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: your Christmas gift today, Congratulations Greg. I mean, the Steelers

1016
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: are the only team in the NFL that are ranked

1017
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: in the top ten in Football Outsiders, offense and defense,

1018
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: So just throwing them out of that mix seems unfair.

1019
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: You don't get it. I'm sure they replaced the Philadelphia

1020
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: Eagles is the only team in the top ten. And

1021
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: I think Dan has made a solid point that the

1022
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: road to Super Bowl fifty one for the New England

1023
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Patriots you could never have imagined to be this soft.

1024
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: This Coushi, It's like an easy pass lane at four am.

1025
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: You're going n nobody else on the road, and there's

1026
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: stay awake, Stay awake. We've seen football, We've seen what happened.

1027
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: But I'm confident because the Patriots are playing great. That's

1028
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: the key part of the equation. They're playing there. They're

1029
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: playing better than I expect. Everything's close, that's the key part.

1030
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: Don't think we didn't notice your nod to Cliff claven

1031
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: on that answer to thank you, sir? You know what? Cheers? Um,

1032
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: you know. Sorry Bucks. By the way, Doug Martin a

1033
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: healthy scratch. That was weird. That was weird. We will

1034
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: be back. There are still three games this week. Uh yes,

1035
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Houston game and then the two Christmas games.

1036
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 1: We've got to cover every day of the week this week,

1037
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: but we will touch on them in some capacity on Tuesday,

1038
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure. And the Lions Cowboys that's a big one. Yeah.

1039
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: So that's the next time you'll hear from us is Tuesday.

1040
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: On the other side of Christmas. Um. But that's it. Now,

1041
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: that's it. Now, it's now it's time to begin Christmas.

1042
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: Were allowed to use this music? I don't know, probably not.

1043
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: Don't tell any shadowy league figures. Uh, Sydney, that is it?

1044
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: For the Christmas Eve edition of the Around the NFL podcast.

1045
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone who if you're watching on Periscope,

1046
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: that's a good job by you. Happy holidays across the globe. Yes,

1047
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: so thank you very much for listening. Happy holidays, Happy

1048
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Greg, Happy Hanukkah, and uh we will see

1049
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: you on Tuesday. Until then, The Stand Hanson signing off

1050
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: for a quiet storm, The Mailman, the Boss, and new

1051
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: money behind the Glass.