WEBVTT - ITS Home Edition: Matt Stell 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:05.080 Welcome to Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio. 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.800 I'm your host Joe Leaving. Okay, so the morning that 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.920 Matt Stell spoke to us for this episode of the 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.840 home edition of the show, he wrote a new song. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.439 Matt calls new songs fresh baked cookies, and he had 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.040 one right out of the oven. And we started the 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.160 home edition of Inside the Studio to let you inside 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.479 the creative process of musicians during lockdown and here how 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.120 they're coping with the pandemic. But I have to confess 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.879 I'm just a little intimidated by how productive Matt has 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.320 been during all of this, although that does seem to 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.239 be a lifelong habit for him. He told our quarantine 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.919 correspondent Jordan runt Hog that when he was in college 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.600 in the early two thousands and he was playing basketball 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.400 for Drury University, he was stuck on campus one winter break, 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.480 so he called his mom and asked for the guitar 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.120 that she had given him when he was twelve so 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.520 he could use his downtime to teach himself how to 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.440 play it. And then he was writing songs pretty quickly 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:13.000 after that, and now he's in Nashville making country hits. 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:18.240 Matt actually says structure helps keep him productive. So I'm 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.360 going to stop talking and go put a few new 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.480 skills I want to learn on my calendar. Anyway, if 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.920 you enjoyed this episode, be sure to check out the 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.280 I Heart Radio podcast that Jordan's hosts HiT's called Rivals 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:39.840 Music's Greatest Feuds, and it's available wherever you get your podcast. Hello, everybody, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.160 My name is Jordan Runtog, But enough about me. My 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.720 guest today very nearly became a doctor, but then he 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.000 decided to stick with the guitar and moved to Nashville. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.680 Medicine's loss was music's game because he's one of country's 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.320 rising stars. He broke through with Prey for You, the 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.240 Instant Wedding Standard, which was certified platinum earlier this year. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.840 He's kept busy during Quarantine with a series of social 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.680 media songwriting session it's called penned Up. Now he's about 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.800 to release a new EP better than that. I'm so 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.200 happy to welcome Matt Still. Matt, thank you so much 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.360 for taking the time. Oh glad to be here, Jordan, 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.440 thanks for having me. How you do that? How does 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.120 life in lockdown find you? On this day? Man. You know, 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.520 the sun's out here shining, and we're kind of, you know, 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.760 like everybody else, kind of cutting the groove on the 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.040 new normal, and um, you know, wrote a song this 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.840 morning via zoom and so that's been good, you know, 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.960 staying creative. And the weather is nice, so you know, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.440 not much to complain about. Oh man, So I feel 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.079 like everyone I know, it's either they're either incredibly productive 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.799 or they're just like I can barely get out of bed. No, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.440 don't ask me to do that. Sounds like you're on 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.760 the productive side. Well, it's it's like I am. If 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.920 there's structure involved, it really helps to have things that 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.280 I have to do, because if not, days can just 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.080 really get away really really easily. So when I have 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.360 things on the calendar that I have to do in 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.040 a certain time period, that usually keeps me pretty productive. 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.120 But I'm just like everybody else, man, sometimes when that's 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.840 alarm clock goes off and I'm like, I don't have 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.120 to be up, you know, so I'll just I'll ty 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.880 go some liberties there. But the structure surely helps songwriting, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.280 especially in Nashville, such a collaborative process. I imagine that 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.560 can't be the same over zoom right now, having that 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.960 like in person electricity, how is like doing it over 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.560 zoom impacted You're you're writing, Yeah, you know that, that's 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.840 very true. It is. It is different. There are some 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.400 some silver linings, you know, you know, the workflow is 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.480 a little bit more efficient sometimes because you know, you 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.160 cut out yeah, I mean, you can cut out the commutes. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.080 I found that zoom writing works best with people that 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.880 you already know or have met before, because that's a 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.200 little bit tough to kind of do online, you know, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.280 although everybody's kind of getting used to it now, so 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.040 in some ways it's it's interesting in handy, but man, 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.360 really though that electricity in the room when you get 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.880 excited about an idea, you know, there's just really nothing 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.640 like it. So, you know, I've done a few, you know, 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:51.000 as as life has permitted, done a few in person rights. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.920 But you know, it's nice to still be able to 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.480 uh get in right with folks now. And I think 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.680 it will become more of the norm, you know, like 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.200 people would be familiar with using it, so it'll be 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.080 something it'll be an option, more of a go to 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.400 even when we get back to normal, I think, and 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.800 you were doing that the pend Up songwriting workshops with 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.360 Lindsay l and jameson Rogers on Instagram. How much of 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.400 your new EP was written during these sessions? Man, I'm 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.120 trying to think I might have I might have a 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.200 couple on there from those sessions. I know, definitely, you 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.560 know Selfiously, for me, I'm a fan of those guys, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.120 and I guess got to listen to employ what we 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.200 call fresh bake cookies, you know, stuff that was just 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.760 hot off the presses. So I just really enjoyed it 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.520 from that aspect. But you know, again, like I mentioned earlier, 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.880 you know, having structure and having knowing that I had 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.600 that to do every week. You know, it's not like 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.640 it's all that long, but it does take a while 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.320 to to get a song together, especially if you're trying 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.480 to write it by yourself, which Lindsay was the best 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.720 at and then we all kind of did so sporadically there, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.760 but that really kind of helps set things up and 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.480 and really put put some tracks to travel down. That's 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.040 for sure. You know EP better than that. I want 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.599 to ask, what's the most autobiographical song on their new EP? 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.680 Oh Man, that's a great question. Probably probably everywhere, but 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.719 on I would. I would have to say I wrote 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.400 that song, and there's a lot of me in that 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.760 song anyway A I wrote it, and then subsequently, after 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.760 releasing it, I got to live a whole bunch more 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.760 of the of what's on that in that song, So 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:12.359 that that probably cuts the closest to autobiographical there's there's generally, 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.440 you know, there's generally some kind of kernel of of 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.120 me and these songs, you know, I think about him 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.719 as characters a lot of times, the main character in 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.680 the song, so they're not always me, but a lot 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.320 of them have a lot of shared I guess experiences 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.440 with me. So that's that's kind of how I attack it. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.279 But everywhere, yeah, everywhere, but on is definitely probably Yeah, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.200 that's the most autobiographical. I was like, on the flip 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.640 side of that, it's kind of look at me now. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.120 It's like, you know, it's your big day at the altar, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.480 wait and meat for the your bride to come down 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.280 the aisle with her dad lud down the aisle. Is 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.599 that any kind of it's definitely gonna be a wedding staple. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.800 I think up there with Prayed for You, Is that 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.080 a hint of anything going on your personal life or nuts. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:52.280 So really none whatsoever, but uh, but that that song 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.040 was written by one of my best friends, Joe Fox 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.039 and and Seth Ennis and Thomas Fincherman, you know, I've 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.760 made records my self, and and I moved to Nashville 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.360 to be a songwriter. That's really what I wanted to do, um, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.640 whether what I was most interested in, and and I 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.400 thought I would just do that and then make a 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.560 little weird records of my own, but then write songs 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.280 for bigger artists. And so you know, the cards I 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.279 got dealt. That's not the position I'm in anymore. But 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.360 I say that to say, you know, I've always have 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.919 a passion for songs, and it's like, um, I've always 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.440 written everything I've ever put out until this project, and 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.200 then I think I think three of them were outside cuts. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.560 And you know, to me, that's really kind of if 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.320 you're passionate about songs, I look at it as you 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.520 kind of have to pick the best songs, whether you 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.320 wrote it or not. And man, that song I don't 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:37.880 even to be I'm just gonna be a hunter sent 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.960 honest with you, those are not my favorite kind of songs, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.479 like love songs, happy ever after kind of thing is 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.560 not me. That's not what I gravitate towards. No, it 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.320 doesn't come that naturally to me. No, But when I 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.520 heard that song, I knew immediately it was a spectacular 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.479 song and I and I knew I wanted to be 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.279 a part of it, and I wanted to interpret it 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.520 and record it and be the person that gets to 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.279 sing it because I just feel like it's such a 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.159 great song. You know, that's really where you know, that's 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.240 that's really where that came from, and you know, making 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:06.919 it on the project and again it's one of my 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.560 best friends sent it to me, and so that that 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.000 was another great part of it. I love the track 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:13.840 Sadie too. I was trying to figure out, I don't 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.840 know why. I was trying to figure what the relationship 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.040 was with the singer and Sadie. I was trying to 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.680 figure out if it was a lover and acts of friends. Yeah, 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.320 you know, it's kind of in those great areas. Sadie's like, 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.440 you know, when you had a relationship but then you don't, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.440 but then you still kind of do have a relationship, 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.360 whether or not that's a friendship now or some kind 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.880 of scale back version. You don't. You know, those ties 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.520 aren't always severed cleanly, and it's sort of it's sort 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.400 of that kind of deal. It's someone that's that's been 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.440 in the relationship and then been not in it and 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.480 then kind of sees it from afar and it's like, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:42.680 I'll be here one way or the other. I thought 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.080 it was a real cool take on it. Man, what 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.320 a great melody that song has, and and uh, it's uh, 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.400 it's a really fun want to do live for sure. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.760 And you sort of very famously went to school on 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.880 a basketball scholarship and nearly went down the premed track. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.960 What made you first start to not only play songs 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.120 but want to write songs self? Was that like a 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.880 defining moment? Yes, spare time like like boredom? Really, No, 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.160 I've always been passionate about music. I didn't really, I 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.119 didn't know that I was any more passionate than anyone 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.120 else was. But I knew I love music and it 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.560 and it turned out that, you know, I really loved it. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.280 And you know, when I was playing basketball, that's a 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.080 winter sports. You're on campus the whole winter break, and 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.120 so you've got you've got time to kill on those 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.200 days where you don't have class and you're not practicing. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.600 And so my mom had got me a guitar when 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.640 I was like twelve that I never touched. After Christmas morning, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.560 I just asked her to bring it up to to 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.760 school and I just sat in front of my computer 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.040 screen a lot like this right here, and and learned 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.000 how to play just old country, southern rock songs, all 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.560 those acoustic guitar songs that you hear in bars and 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.360 man about I don't know. I started writing songs pretty 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.199 quickly after I could uh mash three chords together, and I, um, 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.360 I fell in love with with a singer songwriters like 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.160 that tradition and things, and a lot of what I 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.240 was listening to at the time was coming out of Texas, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.840 and that's really was my first kind of foray into 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.880 writing songs and listening to songs like original music, and 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.600 really having a passion not only for my own original music, 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.480 but for you know, other music kind of out there 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.600 kind of indie stuff and and um, so that's really 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:23.640 where it kind of all started. A lot of musicians 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.720 and artists, when they first get started singing rinning their 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.080 own music, they say that they're they're almost doing impressions 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.520 of other singers, of their favorite singers that before they 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.360 find their own voice, they're doing their their impressions of 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.080 their favorites. Who are some of yours? Man, I was 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.400 really trying to be Steve Earle for a long time, 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.640 or at least one of those voices I wanted to emulate, 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.000 you know. I was a big fan and still am 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.840 of him. You know, Jason Isable is another one that 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.720 songwriter that I admire quite a bit. But then you know, 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.679 country radio was also big going on, and heroes from 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.720 the nineties from you know, George and Garth and Travis 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.439 trid a bunch all those folks, you know, had a 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.640 big influence on me. You know, I guess I was 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.360 trying to emulate those guys initially, and and like you said, 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:04.800 you know, you kind of find your own voice, but 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.440 it's it's hard to do, especially when you figure out that, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.880 you know, just what you like is not necessarily who 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.280 you are. So there's you know, you sort of follow 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.040 the passion of what you like and it'll take you 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.079 down a road, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's who 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.000 you are. That's just kind of how you figure that out. 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.199 And I figured that out at least have to it 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.800 to some degree now. And it was kind of a 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.040 long journey, but it's because I was emulating those guys initially. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.560 That's where I started. Well, I know you're you're an 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.080 Arkansas native, but you have your roots in Texas. Do 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.360 you consider yourself a red dirt country artist? And if so, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.640 how would you describe the red dirt country sounds? And 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.680 it was like hard to put a finger on. Yeah, no, 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.800 totally not anymore. Really, I don't. I wouldn't call myself 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.480 a red dirt artist now, and but I did come up, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.800 you know, really inspired by by those folks and uh 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.800 and and that was really my first foray into music 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.360 and into original music. So the only thing that I 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:56.959 hope that I you know, I wouldn't say that I 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.319 sound like that. I mean, we still put a lot 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.000 of rock and roll in what we do, especially in 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.200 live shows, and that's kind of that. But there's just 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.920 really always an independence streak in Texas, Americana, red dirt music, 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.679 you know, whichever you wanna call it. I mean, all 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.040 of those things are discreet things, but that's the thing 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:13.840 that holds it all together to me. I mean, you 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:15.959 have things that sound like, you know, kind of garage 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.720 band stuff, and you have things that sound like country 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.560 music from Boylan Jennings was born now and and so. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.240 But I think it's that that independence, that kind of 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.240 and that authenticity that that holds it all together. And 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.880 that's what I hope that I've taken from spending that 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.000 time there and learning from those guys you you mentioned 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.559 being who you are. I wanted to ask you about 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.839 the amazing video for if I was a bar where 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.080 you are. I think, by my account, thirteen different people 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.560 something like that. Yeah. Man, we we did the old Nutty, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.840 we did the old Coming to America Eddie Murphy trick 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.400 where we just played a bunch of different characters at 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.240 one you know, I played a bunch of characters obviously 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.679 in the in the bar there and trying to basically 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.400 figure out a creative way to make a music video 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.800 during these times and especially early on then when Lockdown 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.160 was pretty pretty stringent, follow all the rules and be 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.040 as safe as we can, but at the same time 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.520 still find ways and to be creative. And man, that 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.080 was a that was a ton of fun to do, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.640 and it took a lot of talented people that's every 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.240 stitch of clothing that I owned I'm wearing like I 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.520 don't have it anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I've been all those 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.920 people at one point in time, so I don't have Yeah. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.520 That that's that's pretty much the extent of my closet there. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.080 One of my family members works in film, and I 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.960 actually was on the set when Eddie Murphy was filming 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.360 some scenes for I think it was not the Professor too, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.160 and he had he was Sherman Cump and then all 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.360 around them were tennis balls with labels on them of 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.920 all the different characters that he was also playing, and 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.760 so he could like look at them and look know 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.720 where he was looking where everybody was talking. Did they 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.480 do that with you? Did they give you, like, you know, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.720 different points to look at labels of where where your 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.719 other selves? Yes? Yeah, so you know the difference was 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.240 a lot of my scenes would just have you know 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.920 too maybe three people in it. So the way the 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.120 camera works is you just you can't move anything the 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.880 background or really cross over into someone else's space. And 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.800 so that was the direction there was, like here's a 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.000 glass on the bar, don't put your arm any farther 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.720 than that, and then have a conversation with yourself. So 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.280 it was it was incredible. It was a lot of fun. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.400 Did you have a favorite one of yourselves to play? 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.199 The ron Burger? Do you want to the bartender? Yeah? 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.839 I love playing that. When we call Parnell Hawkins, I 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.680 think he drives a truck. That that one was a 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.600 lot of fun. He looks like the guy off of 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:32.000 Office Space that it looks like the neighbor from Office Space. Yeah, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.400 oh my god, you're right. Yeah, So that was a 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.680 ton of fun. And uh, all of them really were. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.200 You know. I had to I was playing a fiddle 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.160 player in that in the band, and I had to 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.280 get on my phone and and google which hand the 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.000 fiddle went in and which hand the bow went in, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.319 so that I think, cause I think the first time 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.079 I shot it, I got it wrong. So, uh so 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.360 you you have your repeat better than that? Is there 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.559 a full album coming in in the pipes too? Yeah? Man, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.319 you know, we're all the time working on new music. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.120 I've got a ton of new music that I'm really 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.200 proud of. That's really been the best thing about this 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:05.439 whole quarantine situation is all the songs I've gotten to write, 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.400 and I'm excited about that. You know, timing on those 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.400 kinds of things. It's just always so fluid now because 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.000 we don't really know what the world's gonna look like. 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.200 But rest is sure. We got lots of new music 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.880 coming out, and once we get this EP out, got 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.040 a bunch of new stuff on it, then we'll I 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.080 have to imagine that we'll be following it up pretty 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.480 soon with with some new stuff from there. Uh, if 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.000 you going forward, do you plan on doing any more 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.680 penned up episodes? I think we might. I think we 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.040 might do a penned up or two again and just 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.280 kind of a reunion because man, it was so much 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.160 it was so much fun. People will come and watch, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.440 you know, those deals and um and and then, like 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.000 I said selfishly, I always want to hear what people 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:42.880 I'm fans of, you know here and playing music and 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:44.840 here and play new music because I love new music. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.960 And you know, Lindsay obviously just put out a new 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.680 record that's great. And so I think probably when her 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.800 whirlwind kind of dies down a little bit and she 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.280 can kind of catch her breath, I might hit her 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.240 back up to get on with us again, and uh, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.120 and do do a little reunion to her. That'll be 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.160 a lot of fun. It's funny all the things that 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.000 we do over face time in zoom. Now I think 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.720 you were I believe, the first person presented with a 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.360 platinum disc for Prayed for you a few months back 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.400 over zoom, basically over FaceTime. What was that like? Oh, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.000 it was great. I mean those those plaques and things, 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.880 you're just commemorate a milestone, and you know, like with me, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.960 I one thing that I've learned is, you know, as 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.000 I look around my office here, I just moved and 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.480 I've got a bunch of plaque on the floor and 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.240 things like that that I haven't hung up, but you know, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.720 a lot of them just have like my name on it. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.640 That doesn't tell the whole or even most of the story, 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.600 because it takes I mean, I've said this a bunch, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.520 but it's just true. It takes so many people to 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.760 have any kind of success, of people with a passion 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.160 for the project and for their job and for music, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.000 and so it's like, you know, it's just a shared thing, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.320 and and um, it should have you know, these plaques, 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.720 these number one plaque should have a hundred names on them, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.920 because man, it takes so many people to believe. It 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.240 takes so many people to work very hard that you 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.200 have to collaborate with and and you know, I'm one 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.240 of the lucky ones in that I get to work 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.360 with a lot of really great people. So so yeah, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.000 and we got that first platinum plaque over zoom and 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.960 and celebrated it. At some point, I think we'll get 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.920 a physical one and we'll have then we'll get to 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.920 celebrate twice, so it'll be perfect. Yeah, what are they 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.240 like facts to like the first one, like the temporary one. Yeah, 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.760 they just like held up a like somebody took a 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.840 took a sharpie to a piece of paper and like 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.000 drew a platinum dish. It was like, yeah, platinum. I 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.440 was like, there you go. So but now it's pretty incredible. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.200 I uh looks an awful lot, Like exactly, are you 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.000 sure that sons sharpie on on paper? But I'd be lying. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.200 You know, everybody has dreams. I always wanted to do that, 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.720 but man, the journey to get something something like that 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.240 is never what you think it's gonna be. So you know, 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.880 it's sometimes even still surreal. Now that we've we've celebrated 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.200 the platinum a platinum record, man, it's pretty crazy. And 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.120 getting to the Opery too. I think it's about a 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.280 year ago you you first were there, right, that must 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.800 have been. It was. It was crazy. It was so 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.000 much fun. I had so much family come up from 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.840 Arkansas and Florida and Texas and other places and celebrate that, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.280 you know, together, and a bunch of them came. After 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.720 the show, we all went to a bar and and 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.640 sat there and eight chicken wings and Draco beer, and 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.640 you know, it was It just really meant a lot 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.920 that that men people came and that was a really 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.679 really special night. And that's something I will always remember. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.440 And it's one of the great honors that I've had, 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.000 is to not only get to play the Opery, but 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.399 get to do it with a bunch of family and friends. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.080 It was really really great. You did a really cool 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.280 thing not too long ago with uh I think Sadie 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.440 Robertson from Duck Dynasty. You surprised some couples over Zoom 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.440 who had their weddings postponed and they had chosen your song, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.720 prayed for you to be there their wedding song. What 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.399 was that like? I mean, just to know you you 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:39.920 wrote this song and now it's going to be part 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.280 of people's lives, you know, forever, their wedding song. It's 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.960 a huge deal. What what is that feeling? Man, It's 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:46.720 the best compliment in the world that people want to 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.280