Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Joe Leaving. Okay, so the morning that
Speaker 1: Matt Stell spoke to us for this episode of the
Speaker 1: home edition of the show, he wrote a new song.
Speaker 1: Matt calls new songs fresh baked cookies, and he had
Speaker 1: one right out of the oven. And we started the
Speaker 1: home edition of Inside the Studio to let you inside
Speaker 1: the creative process of musicians during lockdown and here how
Speaker 1: they're coping with the pandemic. But I have to confess
Speaker 1: I'm just a little intimidated by how productive Matt has
Speaker 1: been during all of this, although that does seem to
Speaker 1: be a lifelong habit for him. He told our quarantine
Speaker 1: correspondent Jordan runt Hog that when he was in college
Speaker 1: in the early two thousands and he was playing basketball
Speaker 1: for Drury University, he was stuck on campus one winter break,
Speaker 1: so he called his mom and asked for the guitar
Speaker 1: that she had given him when he was twelve so
Speaker 1: he could use his downtime to teach himself how to
Speaker 1: play it. And then he was writing songs pretty quickly
Speaker 1: after that, and now he's in Nashville making country hits.
Speaker 1: Matt actually says structure helps keep him productive. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to stop talking and go put a few new
Speaker 1: skills I want to learn on my calendar. Anyway, if
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Speaker 1: Music's Greatest Feuds, and it's available wherever you get your podcast. Hello, everybody,
Speaker 1: My name is Jordan Runtog, But enough about me. My
Speaker 1: guest today very nearly became a doctor, but then he
Speaker 1: decided to stick with the guitar and moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1: Medicine's loss was music's game because he's one of country's
Speaker 1: rising stars. He broke through with Prey for You, the
Speaker 1: Instant Wedding Standard, which was certified platinum earlier this year.
Speaker 1: He's kept busy during Quarantine with a series of social
Speaker 1: media songwriting session it's called penned Up. Now he's about
Speaker 1: to release a new EP better than that. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to welcome Matt Still. Matt, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for taking the time. Oh glad to be here, Jordan,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. How you do that? How does
Speaker 1: life in lockdown find you? On this day? Man. You know,
Speaker 1: the sun's out here shining, and we're kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: like everybody else, kind of cutting the groove on the
Speaker 1: new normal, and um, you know, wrote a song this
Speaker 1: morning via zoom and so that's been good, you know,
Speaker 1: staying creative. And the weather is nice, so you know,
Speaker 1: not much to complain about. Oh man, So I feel
Speaker 1: like everyone I know, it's either they're either incredibly productive
Speaker 1: or they're just like I can barely get out of bed. No,
Speaker 1: don't ask me to do that. Sounds like you're on
Speaker 1: the productive side. Well, it's it's like I am. If
Speaker 1: there's structure involved, it really helps to have things that
Speaker 1: I have to do, because if not, days can just
Speaker 1: really get away really really easily. So when I have
Speaker 1: things on the calendar that I have to do in
Speaker 1: a certain time period, that usually keeps me pretty productive.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like everybody else, man, sometimes when that's
Speaker 1: alarm clock goes off and I'm like, I don't have
Speaker 1: to be up, you know, so I'll just I'll ty
Speaker 1: go some liberties there. But the structure surely helps songwriting,
Speaker 1: especially in Nashville, such a collaborative process. I imagine that
Speaker 1: can't be the same over zoom right now, having that
Speaker 1: like in person electricity, how is like doing it over
Speaker 1: zoom impacted You're you're writing, Yeah, you know that, that's
Speaker 1: very true. It is. It is different. There are some
Speaker 1: some silver linings, you know, you know, the workflow is
Speaker 1: a little bit more efficient sometimes because you know, you
Speaker 1: cut out yeah, I mean, you can cut out the commutes.
Speaker 1: I found that zoom writing works best with people that
Speaker 1: you already know or have met before, because that's a
Speaker 1: little bit tough to kind of do online, you know,
Speaker 1: although everybody's kind of getting used to it now, so
Speaker 1: in some ways it's it's interesting in handy, but man,
Speaker 1: really though that electricity in the room when you get
Speaker 1: excited about an idea, you know, there's just really nothing
Speaker 1: like it. So, you know, I've done a few, you know,
Speaker 1: as as life has permitted, done a few in person rights.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's nice to still be able to
Speaker 1: uh get in right with folks now. And I think
Speaker 1: it will become more of the norm, you know, like
Speaker 1: people would be familiar with using it, so it'll be
Speaker 1: something it'll be an option, more of a go to
Speaker 1: even when we get back to normal, I think, and
Speaker 1: you were doing that the pend Up songwriting workshops with
Speaker 1: Lindsay l and jameson Rogers on Instagram. How much of
Speaker 1: your new EP was written during these sessions? Man, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think I might have I might have a
Speaker 1: couple on there from those sessions. I know, definitely, you
Speaker 1: know Selfiously, for me, I'm a fan of those guys,
Speaker 1: and I guess got to listen to employ what we
Speaker 1: call fresh bake cookies, you know, stuff that was just
Speaker 1: hot off the presses. So I just really enjoyed it
Speaker 1: from that aspect. But you know, again, like I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: you know, having structure and having knowing that I had
Speaker 1: that to do every week. You know, it's not like
Speaker 1: it's all that long, but it does take a while
Speaker 1: to to get a song together, especially if you're trying
Speaker 1: to write it by yourself, which Lindsay was the best
Speaker 1: at and then we all kind of did so sporadically there,
Speaker 1: but that really kind of helps set things up and
Speaker 1: and really put put some tracks to travel down. That's
Speaker 1: for sure. You know EP better than that. I want
Speaker 1: to ask, what's the most autobiographical song on their new EP?
Speaker 1: Oh Man, that's a great question. Probably probably everywhere, but
Speaker 1: on I would. I would have to say I wrote
Speaker 1: that song, and there's a lot of me in that
Speaker 1: song anyway A I wrote it, and then subsequently, after
Speaker 1: releasing it, I got to live a whole bunch more
Speaker 1: of the of what's on that in that song, So
Speaker 1: that that probably cuts the closest to autobiographical there's there's generally,
Speaker 1: you know, there's generally some kind of kernel of of
Speaker 1: me and these songs, you know, I think about him
Speaker 1: as characters a lot of times, the main character in
Speaker 1: the song, so they're not always me, but a lot
Speaker 1: of them have a lot of shared I guess experiences
Speaker 1: with me. So that's that's kind of how I attack it.
Speaker 1: But everywhere, yeah, everywhere, but on is definitely probably Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the most autobiographical. I was like, on the flip
Speaker 1: side of that, it's kind of look at me now.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's your big day at the altar,
Speaker 1: wait and meat for the your bride to come down
Speaker 1: the aisle with her dad lud down the aisle. Is
Speaker 1: that any kind of it's definitely gonna be a wedding staple.
Speaker 1: I think up there with Prayed for You, Is that
Speaker 1: a hint of anything going on your personal life or nuts.
Speaker 1: So really none whatsoever, but uh, but that that song
Speaker 1: was written by one of my best friends, Joe Fox
Speaker 1: and and Seth Ennis and Thomas Fincherman, you know, I've
Speaker 1: made records my self, and and I moved to Nashville
Speaker 1: to be a songwriter. That's really what I wanted to do, um,
Speaker 1: whether what I was most interested in, and and I
Speaker 1: thought I would just do that and then make a
Speaker 1: little weird records of my own, but then write songs
Speaker 1: for bigger artists. And so you know, the cards I
Speaker 1: got dealt. That's not the position I'm in anymore. But
Speaker 1: I say that to say, you know, I've always have
Speaker 1: a passion for songs, and it's like, um, I've always
Speaker 1: written everything I've ever put out until this project, and
Speaker 1: then I think I think three of them were outside cuts.
Speaker 1: And you know, to me, that's really kind of if
Speaker 1: you're passionate about songs, I look at it as you
Speaker 1: kind of have to pick the best songs, whether you
Speaker 1: wrote it or not. And man, that song I don't
Speaker 1: even to be I'm just gonna be a hunter sent
Speaker 1: honest with you, those are not my favorite kind of songs,
Speaker 1: like love songs, happy ever after kind of thing is
Speaker 1: not me. That's not what I gravitate towards. No, it
Speaker 1: doesn't come that naturally to me. No, But when I
Speaker 1: heard that song, I knew immediately it was a spectacular
Speaker 1: song and I and I knew I wanted to be
Speaker 1: a part of it, and I wanted to interpret it
Speaker 1: and record it and be the person that gets to
Speaker 1: sing it because I just feel like it's such a
Speaker 1: great song. You know, that's really where you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's really where that came from, and you know, making
Speaker 1: it on the project and again it's one of my
Speaker 1: best friends sent it to me, and so that that
Speaker 1: was another great part of it. I love the track
Speaker 1: Sadie too. I was trying to figure out, I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I was trying to figure what the relationship
Speaker 1: was with the singer and Sadie. I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure out if it was a lover and acts of friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of in those great areas. Sadie's like,
Speaker 1: you know, when you had a relationship but then you don't,
Speaker 1: but then you still kind of do have a relationship,
Speaker 1: whether or not that's a friendship now or some kind
Speaker 1: of scale back version. You don't. You know, those ties
Speaker 1: aren't always severed cleanly, and it's sort of it's sort
Speaker 1: of that kind of deal. It's someone that's that's been
Speaker 1: in the relationship and then been not in it and
Speaker 1: then kind of sees it from afar and it's like,
Speaker 1: I'll be here one way or the other. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a real cool take on it. Man, what
Speaker 1: a great melody that song has, and and uh, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's a really fun want to do live for sure.
Speaker 1: And you sort of very famously went to school on
Speaker 1: a basketball scholarship and nearly went down the premed track.
Speaker 1: What made you first start to not only play songs
Speaker 1: but want to write songs self? Was that like a
Speaker 1: defining moment? Yes, spare time like like boredom? Really, No,
Speaker 1: I've always been passionate about music. I didn't really, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that I was any more passionate than anyone
Speaker 1: else was. But I knew I love music and it
Speaker 1: and it turned out that, you know, I really loved it.
Speaker 1: And you know, when I was playing basketball, that's a
Speaker 1: winter sports. You're on campus the whole winter break, and
Speaker 1: so you've got you've got time to kill on those
Speaker 1: days where you don't have class and you're not practicing.
Speaker 1: And so my mom had got me a guitar when
Speaker 1: I was like twelve that I never touched. After Christmas morning,
Speaker 1: I just asked her to bring it up to to
Speaker 1: school and I just sat in front of my computer
Speaker 1: screen a lot like this right here, and and learned
Speaker 1: how to play just old country, southern rock songs, all
Speaker 1: those acoustic guitar songs that you hear in bars and
Speaker 1: man about I don't know. I started writing songs pretty
Speaker 1: quickly after I could uh mash three chords together, and I, um,
Speaker 1: I fell in love with with a singer songwriters like
Speaker 1: that tradition and things, and a lot of what I
Speaker 1: was listening to at the time was coming out of Texas,
Speaker 1: and that's really was my first kind of foray into
Speaker 1: writing songs and listening to songs like original music, and
Speaker 1: really having a passion not only for my own original music,
Speaker 1: but for you know, other music kind of out there
Speaker 1: kind of indie stuff and and um, so that's really
Speaker 1: where it kind of all started. A lot of musicians
Speaker 1: and artists, when they first get started singing rinning their
Speaker 1: own music, they say that they're they're almost doing impressions
Speaker 1: of other singers, of their favorite singers that before they
Speaker 1: find their own voice, they're doing their their impressions of
Speaker 1: their favorites. Who are some of yours? Man, I was
Speaker 1: really trying to be Steve Earle for a long time,
Speaker 1: or at least one of those voices I wanted to emulate,
Speaker 1: you know. I was a big fan and still am
Speaker 1: of him. You know, Jason Isable is another one that
Speaker 1: songwriter that I admire quite a bit. But then you know,
Speaker 1: country radio was also big going on, and heroes from
Speaker 1: the nineties from you know, George and Garth and Travis
Speaker 1: trid a bunch all those folks, you know, had a
Speaker 1: big influence on me. You know, I guess I was
Speaker 1: trying to emulate those guys initially, and and like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of find your own voice, but
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to do, especially when you figure out that,
Speaker 1: you know, just what you like is not necessarily who
Speaker 1: you are. So there's you know, you sort of follow
Speaker 1: the passion of what you like and it'll take you
Speaker 1: down a road, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's who
Speaker 1: you are. That's just kind of how you figure that out.
Speaker 1: And I figured that out at least have to it
Speaker 1: to some degree now. And it was kind of a
Speaker 1: long journey, but it's because I was emulating those guys initially.
Speaker 1: That's where I started. Well, I know you're you're an
Speaker 1: Arkansas native, but you have your roots in Texas. Do
Speaker 1: you consider yourself a red dirt country artist? And if so,
Speaker 1: how would you describe the red dirt country sounds? And
Speaker 1: it was like hard to put a finger on. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: totally not anymore. Really, I don't. I wouldn't call myself
Speaker 1: a red dirt artist now, and but I did come up,
Speaker 1: you know, really inspired by by those folks and uh
Speaker 1: and and that was really my first foray into music
Speaker 1: and into original music. So the only thing that I
Speaker 1: hope that I you know, I wouldn't say that I
Speaker 1: sound like that. I mean, we still put a lot
Speaker 1: of rock and roll in what we do, especially in
Speaker 1: live shows, and that's kind of that. But there's just
Speaker 1: really always an independence streak in Texas, Americana, red dirt music,
Speaker 1: you know, whichever you wanna call it. I mean, all
Speaker 1: of those things are discreet things, but that's the thing
Speaker 1: that holds it all together to me. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have things that sound like, you know, kind of garage
Speaker 1: band stuff, and you have things that sound like country
Speaker 1: music from Boylan Jennings was born now and and so.
Speaker 1: But I think it's that that independence, that kind of
Speaker 1: and that authenticity that that holds it all together. And
Speaker 1: that's what I hope that I've taken from spending that
Speaker 1: time there and learning from those guys you you mentioned
Speaker 1: being who you are. I wanted to ask you about
Speaker 1: the amazing video for if I was a bar where
Speaker 1: you are. I think, by my account, thirteen different people
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah. Man, we we did the old Nutty,
Speaker 1: we did the old Coming to America Eddie Murphy trick
Speaker 1: where we just played a bunch of different characters at
Speaker 1: one you know, I played a bunch of characters obviously
Speaker 1: in the in the bar there and trying to basically
Speaker 1: figure out a creative way to make a music video
Speaker 1: during these times and especially early on then when Lockdown
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty stringent, follow all the rules and be
Speaker 1: as safe as we can, but at the same time
Speaker 1: still find ways and to be creative. And man, that
Speaker 1: was a that was a ton of fun to do,
Speaker 1: and it took a lot of talented people that's every
Speaker 1: stitch of clothing that I owned I'm wearing like I
Speaker 1: don't have it anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I've been all those
Speaker 1: people at one point in time, so I don't have Yeah.
Speaker 1: That that's that's pretty much the extent of my closet there.
Speaker 1: One of my family members works in film, and I
Speaker 1: actually was on the set when Eddie Murphy was filming
Speaker 1: some scenes for I think it was not the Professor too,
Speaker 1: and he had he was Sherman Cump and then all
Speaker 1: around them were tennis balls with labels on them of
Speaker 1: all the different characters that he was also playing, and
Speaker 1: so he could like look at them and look know
Speaker 1: where he was looking where everybody was talking. Did they
Speaker 1: do that with you? Did they give you, like, you know,
Speaker 1: different points to look at labels of where where your
Speaker 1: other selves? Yes? Yeah, so you know the difference was
Speaker 1: a lot of my scenes would just have you know
Speaker 1: too maybe three people in it. So the way the
Speaker 1: camera works is you just you can't move anything the
Speaker 1: background or really cross over into someone else's space. And
Speaker 1: so that was the direction there was, like here's a
Speaker 1: glass on the bar, don't put your arm any farther
Speaker 1: than that, and then have a conversation with yourself. So
Speaker 1: it was it was incredible. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Did you have a favorite one of yourselves to play?
Speaker 1: The ron Burger? Do you want to the bartender? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love playing that. When we call Parnell Hawkins, I
Speaker 1: think he drives a truck. That that one was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. He looks like the guy off of
Speaker 1: Office Space that it looks like the neighbor from Office Space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're right. Yeah, So that was a
Speaker 1: ton of fun. And uh, all of them really were.
Speaker 1: You know. I had to I was playing a fiddle
Speaker 1: player in that in the band, and I had to
Speaker 1: get on my phone and and google which hand the
Speaker 1: fiddle went in and which hand the bow went in,
Speaker 1: so that I think, cause I think the first time
Speaker 1: I shot it, I got it wrong. So, uh so
Speaker 1: you you have your repeat better than that? Is there
Speaker 1: a full album coming in in the pipes too? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: you know, we're all the time working on new music.
Speaker 1: I've got a ton of new music that I'm really
Speaker 1: proud of. That's really been the best thing about this
Speaker 1: whole quarantine situation is all the songs I've gotten to write,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited about that. You know, timing on those
Speaker 1: kinds of things. It's just always so fluid now because
Speaker 1: we don't really know what the world's gonna look like.
Speaker 1: But rest is sure. We got lots of new music
Speaker 1: coming out, and once we get this EP out, got
Speaker 1: a bunch of new stuff on it, then we'll I
Speaker 1: have to imagine that we'll be following it up pretty
Speaker 1: soon with with some new stuff from there. Uh, if
Speaker 1: you going forward, do you plan on doing any more
Speaker 1: penned up episodes? I think we might. I think we
Speaker 1: might do a penned up or two again and just
Speaker 1: kind of a reunion because man, it was so much
Speaker 1: it was so much fun. People will come and watch,
Speaker 1: you know, those deals and um and and then, like
Speaker 1: I said selfishly, I always want to hear what people
Speaker 1: I'm fans of, you know here and playing music and
Speaker 1: here and play new music because I love new music.
Speaker 1: And you know, Lindsay obviously just put out a new
Speaker 1: record that's great. And so I think probably when her
Speaker 1: whirlwind kind of dies down a little bit and she
Speaker 1: can kind of catch her breath, I might hit her
Speaker 1: back up to get on with us again, and uh,
Speaker 1: and do do a little reunion to her. That'll be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's funny all the things that
Speaker 1: we do over face time in zoom. Now I think
Speaker 1: you were I believe, the first person presented with a
Speaker 1: platinum disc for Prayed for you a few months back
Speaker 1: over zoom, basically over FaceTime. What was that like? Oh,
Speaker 1: it was great. I mean those those plaques and things,
Speaker 1: you're just commemorate a milestone, and you know, like with me,
Speaker 1: I one thing that I've learned is, you know, as
Speaker 1: I look around my office here, I just moved and
Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of plaque on the floor and
Speaker 1: things like that that I haven't hung up, but you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of them just have like my name on it.
Speaker 1: That doesn't tell the whole or even most of the story,
Speaker 1: because it takes I mean, I've said this a bunch,
Speaker 1: but it's just true. It takes so many people to
Speaker 1: have any kind of success, of people with a passion
Speaker 1: for the project and for their job and for music,
Speaker 1: and so it's like, you know, it's just a shared thing,
Speaker 1: and and um, it should have you know, these plaques,
Speaker 1: these number one plaque should have a hundred names on them,
Speaker 1: because man, it takes so many people to believe. It
Speaker 1: takes so many people to work very hard that you
Speaker 1: have to collaborate with and and you know, I'm one
Speaker 1: of the lucky ones in that I get to work
Speaker 1: with a lot of really great people. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: and we got that first platinum plaque over zoom and
Speaker 1: and celebrated it. At some point, I think we'll get
Speaker 1: a physical one and we'll have then we'll get to
Speaker 1: celebrate twice, so it'll be perfect. Yeah, what are they
Speaker 1: like facts to like the first one, like the temporary one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just like held up a like somebody took a
Speaker 1: took a sharpie to a piece of paper and like
Speaker 1: drew a platinum dish. It was like, yeah, platinum. I
Speaker 1: was like, there you go. So but now it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1: I uh looks an awful lot, Like exactly, are you
Speaker 1: sure that sons sharpie on on paper? But I'd be lying.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody has dreams. I always wanted to do that,
Speaker 1: but man, the journey to get something something like that
Speaker 1: is never what you think it's gonna be. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's sometimes even still surreal. Now that we've we've celebrated
Speaker 1: the platinum a platinum record, man, it's pretty crazy. And
Speaker 1: getting to the Opery too. I think it's about a
Speaker 1: year ago you you first were there, right, that must
Speaker 1: have been. It was. It was crazy. It was so
Speaker 1: much fun. I had so much family come up from
Speaker 1: Arkansas and Florida and Texas and other places and celebrate that,
Speaker 1: you know, together, and a bunch of them came. After
Speaker 1: the show, we all went to a bar and and
Speaker 1: sat there and eight chicken wings and Draco beer, and
Speaker 1: you know, it was It just really meant a lot
Speaker 1: that that men people came and that was a really
Speaker 1: really special night. And that's something I will always remember.
Speaker 1: And it's one of the great honors that I've had,
Speaker 1: is to not only get to play the Opery, but
Speaker 1: get to do it with a bunch of family and friends.
Speaker 1: It was really really great. You did a really cool
Speaker 1: thing not too long ago with uh I think Sadie
Speaker 1: Robertson from Duck Dynasty. You surprised some couples over Zoom
Speaker 1: who had their weddings postponed and they had chosen your song,
Speaker 1: prayed for you to be there their wedding song. What
Speaker 1: was that like? I mean, just to know you you
Speaker 1: wrote this song and now it's going to be part
Speaker 1: of people's lives, you know, forever, their wedding song. It's
Speaker 1: a huge deal. What what is that feeling? Man, It's
Speaker 1: the best compliment in the world that people want to
Speaker 1: include a song like that in the day that's that
Speaker 1: special to them. And you know, that's the reason I
Speaker 1: wanted to start playing music in the first place. Was
Speaker 1: nothing makes me feel the way my favorite songs do,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to kind of do that if I could.
Speaker 1: You know, in this case, we wrote this song that
Speaker 1: that has meant a lot of people, you know, not
Speaker 1: only from weddings, but you know, things like a promotion
Speaker 1: at work, or getting through school, or having kids, or
Speaker 1: even have a guy tell me that the song they
Speaker 1: meant a lot to him when he was trying to
Speaker 1: when he was incarcerated. You know, it helped him get
Speaker 1: through doing a stand in prison. And I wasn't thinking
Speaker 1: about that at the time, but you know, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's incredible that that a song can mean that
Speaker 1: can mean something and mean a lot to people in
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. So and and Sadie's Sadie's
Speaker 1: deal that she did basically surprising a bunch of couples
Speaker 1: whose weddings were co opted by by covid here and
Speaker 1: we got to do a little something for him and
Speaker 1: and meet and chat and play the song, and man,
Speaker 1: you know, that's just that's what's all about music and
Speaker 1: good times and good people. So when you're not writing,
Speaker 1: which I know it takes up a entire time, what's
Speaker 1: your favorite way to just check out and relax. You've
Speaker 1: got like a favorite distraction like learning to cook or
Speaker 1: Netflix shows the Bends or something that it's definitely not cooking.
Speaker 1: I can do, like I can do like two things.
Speaker 1: I can make us make a pretty good steak and
Speaker 1: a cast iron skillet, And I can uh roll things
Speaker 1: in flower and film in hot grease, and I'm pretty
Speaker 1: good at that. But that's about it, really. But what's
Speaker 1: the yeah, right exactly exactly? So you know, I play
Speaker 1: a lot of golf anytime I can. I love to
Speaker 1: play golf, and I love to gamble on golf. Those
Speaker 1: are my Playing golf for money is a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: and my buddies and I geek out pretty hard over
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And now we got football, there'll
Speaker 1: be some uh some fantasy wagering and things like that. Happening,
Speaker 1: and man, any anything like that. Man, it's been. It's uh.
Speaker 1: I still try to get out as much as I cannot.
Speaker 1: Just again, it's it's obviously the time we live and
Speaker 1: makes it tough. But I try to get out and
Speaker 1: play basketball as much as I can. You know, I
Speaker 1: get that shoot around, maybe maybe a small pickup game
Speaker 1: if if the numbers are right. Yeah, that's that's pretty
Speaker 1: much it. Get outside, try to run. I'll do some
Speaker 1: hunting this fall. I've read a lot of books, so
Speaker 1: it's somewhere in those sort of things I saw on Instagram.
Speaker 1: You had your dad's in nineteen sixty four four Galaxy
Speaker 1: five d X L at is a I'm a huge
Speaker 1: old card nut. Did you grow up with a lot
Speaker 1: of those types of cars around? I mean that that's
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful machine, man. Not really those my uh
Speaker 1: you know, growing up we weren't we weren't buy any
Speaker 1: stretch like you know, poor, but my dad had later
Speaker 1: kind of when I grew up a little bit, his
Speaker 1: business really took off, and so those I had never
Speaker 1: been around those kind of cars that kind of like
Speaker 1: that Galaxy that was a museum piece basically, man, it
Speaker 1: was it was really really sharp. We went I actually
Speaker 1: got in tickets to Barrett Jackson out in uh Scottsdale
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, I think, yeah, fifteen or sixteen. We
Speaker 1: went out there and uh we bought that Uh I
Speaker 1: say we uh he bought that car and uh man,
Speaker 1: we had a great time and we were actually getting
Speaker 1: ready to send it. He had that and some Mustangs
Speaker 1: kind of later model Mustangs and some other stuff that
Speaker 1: we were gonna send out to Barrett Jackson, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: passed away. So I had to take him out there
Speaker 1: by myself off and it's kind of bittersweet, but he
Speaker 1: was ready to he was ready to move on from him,
Speaker 1: and he enjoyed them for while he had him. And
Speaker 1: one of these days, one of these days, I'm hoping
Speaker 1: to have me a galaxy just like that, but but
Speaker 1: something that's a little more drivable, because that thing was
Speaker 1: like restored to what it was back in the sixties.
Speaker 1: And I mean it had manual breaks and in a
Speaker 1: little nylon ten inch wide tires and not even well
Speaker 1: not even that wide, but just a lot of things
Speaker 1: that weren't quote unquote safe, unquote unquote reliable or you know,
Speaker 1: but man, it was a real badass car. For sure,
Speaker 1: it looked unreal. It's it's funny cars can bond fathers
Speaker 1: and sons. My dad's had a hinteen seventy four MG
Speaker 1: mid you know, the little tiny thing that he and
Speaker 1: his friends could pick up like it's so small and literally, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we always used to drive that around and fix
Speaker 1: it up and the thing never worked right, last part
Speaker 1: of the fun British cars. The best struck story I
Speaker 1: have right now is uh my grandmother on my mom's side,
Speaker 1: in nineteen nineties, she bought, uh or maybe an eighty nine.
Speaker 1: She bought a little single cab four wheel drive GMS
Speaker 1: CC her like a ninety model. She she sold that
Speaker 1: truck to me back probably ten years ago or so
Speaker 1: or for like nothing basically, and then I turned sold
Speaker 1: it to my dad who sold it to a guy. Well,
Speaker 1: I had occasion to buy that truck back from the
Speaker 1: guy that my dad sold it to. So I bought
Speaker 1: that truck back, and my dad's best friend who actually
Speaker 1: went out to Barrett Jackson with us, so this kind
Speaker 1: of comes full circle. I took it to him and
Speaker 1: him and his brother's on a on a body shop
Speaker 1: painting body shop and along with another mechanic friend of mine,
Speaker 1: have done a frame off restoration of this model GMC
Speaker 1: pick up and I'm it's almost done. I had to
Speaker 1: go online and scour the internet for the for the
Speaker 1: factory wheels for it, but I finally found him. We're
Speaker 1: just about ready to uh have that done, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do a big social media like thing about it
Speaker 1: because it it's really really a sharp truck. And my
Speaker 1: grandma bought it new and and she's excited about it too.
Speaker 1: I get just she's really ready to see it. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. Uh Man, that is awesome to
Speaker 1: get a good sound system and that's the best place
Speaker 1: to list to music when you're driving around. One man,
Speaker 1: one percent. I need to, I need to. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the factory radio in it, but just
Speaker 1: run like an OX cable at the bottom and maybe
Speaker 1: if I can hide some nice speakers in the dash,
Speaker 1: I'll probably do that now. Like when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I would have put like two twelves behind the seat
Speaker 1: where I couldn't even fit in it, and six behind
Speaker 1: lines in the door. But uh, I'm trying to keep
Speaker 1: this one is like as uh factory looking as possible. Hey,
Speaker 1: I meant to say earlier I loved your cover of
Speaker 1: the Ariana Grande song God is a Woman. I love
Speaker 1: how you had like the title and lower caps and
Speaker 1: the credits to like she does. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: people would have been surprised that you covered that, Like,
Speaker 1: what's what's the most surprising thing that's that you're listening
Speaker 1: to right now? Oh? Man, Well, firstly, that that is
Speaker 1: just an incredible song, just subjectively great. It's it to me,
Speaker 1: it's like that functions like a country song because the
Speaker 1: lyric has this really cool twist to it and the
Speaker 1: way that my favorite a lot of my favorite country
Speaker 1: songs due and it's kind of provocative. It almost reminds
Speaker 1: me of girl Crush a little bit, Like it has
Speaker 1: this it's just like you hear it, and you hear
Speaker 1: who's singing it, and you're like what, and then it
Speaker 1: makes this kind of cool left turn. And I just
Speaker 1: love that. I just love that edgy, provocative thing and
Speaker 1: a great song, and and I thought it'd be fun
Speaker 1: to interpret it. But man, I've been listening to I
Speaker 1: was to a lot of cool stuff, or a lot
Speaker 1: of different stuff. Man um Hardy's record just came out.
Speaker 1: I've been listening to it, Jason Nisable's record that came
Speaker 1: out earlier this year. Reunion has been listening to it,
Speaker 1: listening to JP Sacks, been listening to Taylor Swift's record. Man,
Speaker 1: that song, there's a song on that record. Heard the
Speaker 1: very first song on it, called the One that is
Speaker 1: just an absolute masterpiece of a song, and I just
Speaker 1: love it. And yeah, you know, I listened to Uh.
Speaker 1: I listen to a lot of soul music too, and
Speaker 1: I listen to some old country music a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of Randy Travis going on when I'm chilling,
Speaker 1: so um man, I cover. I cover all my bases
Speaker 1: when I'm listening to music because I'm passionate about it
Speaker 1: and I like all kinds. It's funny during the whole
Speaker 1: lockdown time. I don't know if it's stress or what
Speaker 1: I've been like listening to stuff I haven't listened to
Speaker 1: since I was in high school. That's like musical comfort
Speaker 1: food in the way kind of hundred percent. Man takes
Speaker 1: you back to a place. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: those records from the nineties that I love so much,
Speaker 1: like Jagged Little Pill, and and Cracked review and and
Speaker 1: a lot of those what's the story Morning Glory? That
Speaker 1: Oasis record? Man, I love all that stuff and revisit
Speaker 1: it quite a bit, so I'm definitely right there with you. Man.
Speaker 1: There's the stuff that I just keep going back to
Speaker 1: because not only is it great, but it also there's
Speaker 1: a Lissen to Williams record Car Wheels on a Gravel
Speaker 1: Road that kind of changed my life, and Drive By Truckers.
Speaker 1: It's another band that that I I used to want
Speaker 1: to be before I found out that I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't have the ethos to pull that kind of thing off.
Speaker 1: But man, I've been been visiting revisiting a lot of
Speaker 1: music too. I know just what you mean. My my
Speaker 1: last question. I've been asking everybody this, and it's always
Speaker 1: so interesting to hear everybody's different answers. If you can
Speaker 1: stab your fingers and have this all be over, everything
Speaker 1: back to normal, you know, quarantine lockdown, the virus has gone,
Speaker 1: everything just right back to the way it was in.
Speaker 1: What's the first thing you would do? Get on a
Speaker 1: tour bus with my band and crew and I drive
Speaker 1: to the first place that had a neon sign that
Speaker 1: looked like it needed a band, unload all of my gear,
Speaker 1: turned my amp up to eleven, and play all dawn night.
Speaker 1: That will be the first thing that I do. That's
Speaker 1: just what I'm looking the most forward to. Man, I
Speaker 1: really really miss it. I missed the guys, I missed
Speaker 1: the road, I missed the crowd, I missed new song.
Speaker 1: I just miss it all, all of it. Right on,
Speaker 1: Matt Still, We're gonna get you back out there soon.
Speaker 1: Thank you so so much for your time today. It's
Speaker 1: been a pleasure great talking with you, Jordan. I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 1: You'll just stay safe you as well. We hope you
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