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Speaker 1: First Date to follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com. Meg is on the

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Speaker 1: phone today for a first date follow up and she's

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Speaker 1: getting ghosted by a guy named James. So in a

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Speaker 1: few minutes, we're gonna call him and see if I

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Speaker 1: tell us why he's ghostinger and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 1: But first, Meg, how long has it been since you

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Speaker 1: heard from James.

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: We live in the same building, so I actually saw him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know, so I see him in the elevator all

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Speaker 3: the time. So I actually saw him like this morning,

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Speaker 3: and uh, it's a little bit awkward just because of

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Speaker 2: So but I haven't heard, like.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't kind of followed up by a text or phone,

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Speaker 3: which is what I was kind of waiting for, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean. Yeah, So, did you reach out

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Speaker 4: to him other than seeing him in the elevator. No.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's so at the end of our date, which

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Speaker 3: went really well, by the way, so that's yeah, So

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Speaker 3: I was sort of expecting a call, and then this

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Speaker 3: morning when I saw him, I just kind of was like,

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Speaker 3: I have to say some things I haven't heard from him,

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Speaker 3: So I just said like, hey, you know, do you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right.

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Speaker 3: But it was so great, Like we went to this

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Speaker 3: trivia night that he had been telling me about because

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Speaker 3: you know, I had seen him in the elevator. We'd

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Speaker 3: tiny confession that I would kind of plan to be

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so I kep like running into him and

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Speaker 2: We even went back to his place afterwards and we

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Speaker 3: Great night cap and I don't want to be not

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Speaker 3: I was totally expecting to hear from him.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well, did something happen, did anything actually go down on

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Speaker 4: the date that may have made it a little bit

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Speaker 3: Well, here's obviously I have been analyzing this for days

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, so the only thing.

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Speaker 3: So I started to go, Okay, maybe it was this

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Speaker 3: because like my sister, she's going through a bit of

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Speaker 3: so she's having a hard time. She did call me

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Speaker 2: Okay, full disclosure.

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Speaker 3: One of them may have come when we were kind

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not sure because that's what I told.

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Speaker 1: So what was the last thing you texted him?

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Speaker 3: Oh, the last So the last thing I texted him

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Speaker 2: So I said, thank you, I hope to see you again.

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Speaker 3: And then that was after I left, and then I

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Speaker 2: So that's where we're at.

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Speaker 1: That's awkward. That's an awkward elevator, right, all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: see if we can figure it out for you. Then

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Speaker 1: we'll play a song come Back, and then call him

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Speaker 1: and maybe get you another date?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll play a song come back, give your first

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Speaker 1: day follow up next. If you're just joining us for

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Speaker 1: today's first Day follow up. Meg is on the phone

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Speaker 1: and she's getting ghosted by a guy named James. So

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Speaker 1: we're about to call him and see if he'll tell

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Speaker 1: us why is ghosting her and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that, Meg, why don't you catch

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I went out with this amazing guy, James,

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Speaker 3: who lives in my building. I see him all the

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Speaker 3: had a great time, there was even some makeouts. But

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Speaker 3: He has not responded to my last text, and I've

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Speaker 3: recently seen him in the elevator and.

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Speaker 2: Basically said, hey, do you want to go for dinner sometime, and.

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Speaker 3: He basically said I'll get back to you, which doesn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, and the reason you think you might

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Speaker 3: My sister kept calling during the date and she's having

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Speaker 2: Keep answering my phone. Well, yeah, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, Well are you ready for us

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Speaker 1: to call him and see if I'll tell us why?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm ready. I'm nervous, but I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Hi, I'm asking the James please. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is changed, James. How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show.

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Speaker 1: It's called The Jewbel Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, James, the show's here too. I'm Nina, Hi, and

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Speaker 4: I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 1: I'm not much. Have you heard the show before ever?

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Speaker 6: Something to do with like first day or something?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Actually it does.

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Speaker 1: We do a segment on the show it's called the

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Speaker 1: First Day follow Up to where if you go out

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Speaker 1: on a date with somebody and you up ghosting them,

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Speaker 1: they can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 1: and ask why. So we got an email about you

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Speaker 1: from somebody. That's why we're calling.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I actually have before.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we got an email about you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, are you sing somebody?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You have any idea who?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, who do you think it is?

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Speaker 6: Meg?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: It is Meg. She also told us she saw you

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Speaker 1: this morning in the elevator. That's awkward, man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, we did each other in the elevator.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us why you're ghosting her? She said

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, here's a story. So I mean, yeah, honestly,

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Speaker 5: we did have a great date. I had a good time,

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Speaker 6: Might sound looks like a small thing, but it's big

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Speaker 5: That she doesn't like dogs, and that is a huge

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Speaker 4: Do you have a dog?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't have a dog. Right now, we're not

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Speaker 6: Am getting a dog when I have my house. I

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Speaker 4: I wonder what she would say, though, if you were like,

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Speaker 4: I need to have dogs. But what did she say?

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Speaker 1: Like she say like she absolutely hated dogs.

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Speaker 2: She just didn't like them, she's allergic to them.

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Speaker 5: Well, she was complaining about one of her friends bogs

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Speaker 6: The smell and the mess that I make all the time.

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Speaker 5: And it's just kind of like was like, you know,

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Speaker 6: Dogs at all.

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Speaker 1: I am not for me.

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Speaker 6: It was like, well, you're gonna judge all dogs based

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Speaker 1: So that's it just that she doesn't like dogs that honestly, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's a huge deal breaker for me. Like you like,

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Speaker 5: Tolerate dogs, but I got to have a dog, and

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Speaker 5: I can't foresee myself having a future with somebody who

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Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's got their team. I've never met anybody

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't either.

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Speaker 5: I could see that, but you know, then you then

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Speaker 6: Just a total deal breaker for me. The way. Don't

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Speaker 5: I don't know it's to say the things that she

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Speaker 1: Just ask her because she is on the phone listening

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Speaker 1: and wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hi, Jane's hey, yeah, hey, I forget about

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Speaker 3: this part I I got.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe.

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Speaker 3: This, Like my god, and if I had like a

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Speaker 3: hundred guesses, I would never guess this is why you're

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Speaker 6: Listen. It's just like it's this is why I didn't

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Speaker 5: It feels like a little thing to a lot of people,

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Speaker 5: but it's a big thing to me. It's a big

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Speaker 6: And you know, I really did feel like.

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Speaker 5: We had some chemistry and you know, and but just

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Speaker 5: it's a hard no for me that it's a real

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Speaker 2: But oh my god, we did. Listen, I agree.

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Speaker 3: I think we had like amazing chemistry, including on that night,

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Speaker 2: And I guess I'm just like, okay, what if it

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Speaker 3: Okay, I could learn to be okay around dogs, like

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Speaker 3: I just wouldn't like kept them as if.

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Speaker 2: I was around a dog, I could be okay with dogs.

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Speaker 2: If not that I think they're evil, I just don't

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Speaker 3: They're like they I do think they're messy and there's

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Speaker 2: But I mean, does that change.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about. This is this is what

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about. This is a no for me.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not Like you can't even get for a sentence

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, but like it could be worse.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like there's so many worse things.

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Speaker 3: Like it's not like I'm like a murderer or like

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Speaker 6: I just feel like I don't know someone who doesn't

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Speaker 7: Okay, So I just feel like this is such I mean,

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Speaker 7: is that a thing like where you like, don't trust

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Speaker 7: what does that even mean?

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Speaker 2: Like you don't trust people who don't like dogs like

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Speaker 5: So really don't trust people who don't like dogs? That

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Speaker 5: is a hard line. Absolutely, don't try.

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Speaker 6: You know. I was thinking it might have been fun

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Speaker 6: it go as far as it did. But I'm kind

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Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, And now knowing that you were just like

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Speaker 3: hanging on for one night stand starts to make it

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Speaker 2: A no for me too. So that was a little

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Speaker 2: a little much to hear. So what do I and

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Speaker 2: now if this is great we live in Like, what

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Speaker 2: am I supposed to do when I see you in

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Speaker 2: the elevator? We can ignore all.

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Speaker 5: Of this and well, I don't know, you know what

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Speaker 6: Maybe you can avoid getting in the elevator with James.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to go on another day with Meg?

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Speaker 1: Will pay for it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I thought yeah, if I mean we

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Speaker 3: not like this.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, I do not want to be murdered.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well I guess you got your answer. Meg

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Speaker 1: and James. Thank you, thank you for telling us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I really do like the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Jule's First Day follow up