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Speaker 1: will get an additional almost six million dollars five point eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that'll help, and it could be the difference between

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Speaker 1: keeping a player instead of cutting a player, depending on

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Speaker 1: where the final number comes down. So that'll be good

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Speaker 1: for them. Certainly, there are teams with that are getting

428
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Speaker 1: more or budgeted for more from last year, because you

429
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Speaker 1: have to remember Steve a lot of these It was

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Speaker 1: last year at this time this pandemic was screaming down

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Speaker 1: the tracks, and I think there were some teams that said, well, look,

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Speaker 1: we're probably not competing for a Super Bowl this year,

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Speaker 1: and if there's once they hurt no fans in the stands.

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Speaker 1: It was like, oh, geez, you know, our revenues could

435
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Speaker 1: be down considerably. That might impact the cap. Let's not

436
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Speaker 1: use some of our cap now so we can roll

437
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Speaker 1: it over into next year in case there's a scorched

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Speaker 1: earth scenario. And that kind of proved to be the case.

439
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Speaker 1: So so mistute general managers in front offices went a

440
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Speaker 1: little lean last year in anticipation of what we see now,

441
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Speaker 1: and they're going to reap the benefits in free agency

442
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Speaker 1: because they're gonna be able to not only spend money,

443
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have a bigger pool to choose from because

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Speaker 1: the teams that didn't act proactively last year at this

445
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Speaker 1: time are now in a cap strapped situations. Has a

446
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Speaker 1: shed payroll? Does this put that now here? Let me

447
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Speaker 1: ask the question, like this, does this mean that the

448
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: bills are under the cap? Because of that, or does

449
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Speaker 1: that mean the bills cap If it's one hundred and

450
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Speaker 1: eighty two million, the bills cap is actually one hundred

451
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: and eighty seven point eight. Well, it means their cap

452
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Speaker 1: is higher because that's what a door room to spend.

453
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Speaker 1: It raises that cap by that much. Yes, so we

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Speaker 1: have to see where the number comes in. And then

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Speaker 1: I got you they're rolling five point eight into whatever

456
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Speaker 1: they had. Now we saw a projection yesterday that you

457
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: mentioned on the show that had them two hundred thousand

458
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: dollars over the cap. Was it over under two hundred

459
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Speaker 1: thousand undred? So with that plus five point eight it

460
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Speaker 1: was over two hundred thousand over it like along with

461
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Speaker 1: tim over. So now you're talking five point six in

462
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Speaker 1: room and then depending on and that and unfortunately we

463
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Speaker 1: didn't know what number they were projecting the cap to be.

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Speaker 1: That was the Diana and we're siing tweet from yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so we're the bottom line is this, We're gonna have

466
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Speaker 1: to find out what the hard and fast cap number

467
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Speaker 1: is for twenty twenty one, and then I think more

468
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: of those accurate figures on teams cap space will trickle out.

469
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Speaker 1: But as we know, it is a moving number. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Washington's a perfect example. Today if they have ten million

471
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: in cap space, Alex Smith's cut, tomorrow they have twenty

472
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Speaker 1: five million in cap space. Bang, just like so it's

473
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Speaker 1: always a moving target. So that's why we're kind of

474
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Speaker 1: hesitant on the show to say, oh, the Bills have

475
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Speaker 1: this much, because tomorrow it could be a different number. Um.

476
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: We also saw the report Steve former Panthers punter Michael

477
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Speaker 1: Pollardi visiting the Bills today. That is the report, and

478
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: we'll see where that goes. Punter Thomas Moore Stead was

479
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: released by the Saint was the highest paid punter in

480
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Speaker 1: the league and a half million dollars in cap space

481
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Speaker 1: created for the Saints who are still scrambling to create

482
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Speaker 1: more space because they're in a mess and more. Stead

483
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Speaker 1: was was really good before this last Year's a little

484
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Speaker 1: inconsistent this last year. But man, thirty five years old,

485
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Speaker 1: I think, so he's getting up there. Um gets harder

486
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Speaker 1: and harder. So that's you're starting to see these teams

487
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: who you know, you saw a couple of teams a

488
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: couple of days ago signed their long snappers, and they're

489
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: everybody on the raw, every contracts getting looked at every

490
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Speaker 1: single one of them. And you know, the Bills have

491
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: had serious conversations about every single guy on their roster,

492
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: and certainly here's what you You know, you start with

493
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: the big, big numbers, but you work all the way through,

494
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: all the way down to your rookies, on rookie free agents,

495
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: you talk about them as well. And there's no question

496
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of scenarios where the Bills could

497
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: jump through financial hoops and make some decisions. Cut this guy,

498
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: resign that guy, restructure these guys, restructure those guys, and

499
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: cut different guys. All that stuff is on the table,

500
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: and it's a puzzle that you put together to give

501
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: yourself the best roster when you're done with it right

502
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: and the most and the biggest best ability to fill

503
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Speaker 1: the holes that are left not only by free agency

504
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: but also by the cap manipulation. So it's a big

505
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: puzzle that they got to work through. But there's a

506
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: lot of options they have, and that visit is probably

507
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: for good reason because Polardi tore his acl last summer

508
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Speaker 1: and missed the whole twenty twenty season. Actually did it

509
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Speaker 1: play in basketball with his son, of all things, So

510
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: you would have the visit makes sense if it is

511
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: in fact accurate, because you got to believe that they

512
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: want to put him through a physical to check that

513
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: knee out, make sure it's structurally sound. The reports out

514
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: of Carolina indicate that he's seven months removed from surgery,

515
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: so it's usually a seven to nine month time period

516
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Speaker 1: before a player's fully healed from an injury. Like I

517
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: don't know whether, but it's interesting that you know they're

518
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: kicking the tires on this guy because you know, Corey

519
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: Bjorkez is a restricted free agent and we haven't heard

520
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: anything on that front or the other two RFAs for

521
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: that matter, in terms of tendering them qualifying offers that well,

522
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you like them, you're probably just the

523
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: low tender, you know, which is I think somewhere around

524
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: two million and change um. Otherwise you sign him to

525
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: a two year regular deal for less money per year

526
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: to try to help yourself with your cap situation. Right now,

527
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: that's probably what you do. But we'll keep our ear

528
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Speaker 1: to the ground on that and see if there are

529
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: any developments there. And it's unclear whether Polarity would be

530
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: viewed as a replacement for Horquez or maybe he's competition

531
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Speaker 1: coming off in acl you know, maybe he's competition and

532
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: if he outperforms and he gets the job and that's

533
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: how they go, we'll have to see how it all

534
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: plays out, and if in fact he's even signed, we'll

535
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: have to see where that goes. But we will take

536
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Speaker 1: a break because when we come back, it is time

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Speaker 1: for Tasker's Teammate, the latest installment coming your way next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colloid of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills five.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Casker with you on a Friday. The

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Speaker 1: obl Fan Friday mail bag is open. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: get your questions in there. If you have any questions

543
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: that you want to u throw our way verbally, you

544
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: can give us a call, you know, three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight fifty two five fifty open line for

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Speaker 1: you there or anything under the sun, on the Bills,

547
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, anything on your mind. You can fire it

548
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: off at us. We'll do our best to answer it

549
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: to the best of our ability. But it is time

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Speaker 1: now for the latest installment of Tasker's Teammates. Let's do

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Speaker 1: it all right, Fire up the music, Tasker's Teammate as

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554
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Speaker 1: begin quite a way. When you do this, do your

555
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: shores like sound like a bag of gravel? No, but

556
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: there are some times where I crouch and my knee

557
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: will do that. It sounds like I'm crumpling up of

558
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: an old plastic grocery bag. I got not good something

559
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: going on. I don't know. For what thirteen years in

560
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: the NFL do that, especially running full speed into human

561
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: this after running forty yards had one too. I'm glad

562
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: you did. I'm glad dude there was a hockey accident though,

563
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? No? All right, we gotta get

564
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: to this. So Tasker's Teammate Clue number one. All right,

565
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: here we go. Born in Rome, Georgia in nineteen sixty.

566
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: I was a football player. From the word go, Rome, Georgia,

567
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: right out of the womb, Rome, Georgia. Wow, I do

568
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: not know it, okay, Clue number two. After a successful

569
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: high school football career at East High School, I played

570
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: my college ball at Tennessee State. Tennessee State Now, obviously

571
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: this is not one of those major programs that you

572
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: would immediately identify somebody which narrows it down, which but

573
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: it also narrows it down. Was gonna be my next point.

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00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: It's gotta be. I'm thinking it's a I'm thinking a

575
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: skill player like a wide out, cornerback or running back

576
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking. And the word Joe. Okay, keep

577
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: going blue. Number three a sixth round draft choice. I

578
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: did not begin my NFL career with the Buffalo Bills,

579
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: but another AFC team relatively close to Buffalo geographically, sixth

580
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: round pick, sixth round pick of Cleveland or Pittsburgh. I

581
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: don't remember something, and just think about a big draw,

582
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: a big radius around Muffalo and you could be Detroit.

583
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not like Billy Joe Tolliver. It's not

584
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Billy Joe, Billy Joe Hobert you imagined ober No, it's

585
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: not Billy Joke. There you go. At least at least

586
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: I ventured a guess and got buzzed. Okay, what's the

587
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: next one? Sixth round draft pick for Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

588
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: Go ahead. I didn't become a full time starter until

589
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: my third year in the league, when I tied a

590
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: career high with nine touchdowns. Kinnebrew, Larry Kinnerbrew, Steve Tasker,

591
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: you are amazing, Larry n. Larry Kinnerbrew is your answer

592
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: on the fourth clue? The man nailed it? Wow? Who

593
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: was impressive? Who did you get drafted by Cincinnati? Cincinnati? Yeah? Okay,

594
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Closer's like four teams closer than cinciographically. You know,

595
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: it's only a seven hour drive that far. Larry, Larry,

596
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: I believe is on the line. So Larry k number

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Speaker 1: twenty eight in your program. I was impressed. Uh that, Larry? Uh?

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00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean the guy had a couple of ten touchdown seasons.

599
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: He had nine. He was I'm guessing he was a

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00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: goal line guy, is that right? Yeah, tremendous goal line back. Yeah.

601
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: I was a goal line guy and Steve, pound for pound,

602
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: you took his man. I know, not anymore, Larry, not anymore. Broy.

603
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: How you doing I'm doing fine. I'm doing better than

604
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: I deserve. Actually, thanks for coming on, and it's great

605
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: to hear from you. You came out, you had some

606
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: really good years in Cincinnati. Were you remember me? Remind me?

607
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: Were you on the eighty eight team that went to

608
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with those guys in Cincinnati. I came

609
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: to Buffalo and I stand with Buffalo. Okay, yeah, you're

610
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: with us that way. So you saw them in the

611
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: championship game with us, right? Yeah? Okay, yeah that was

612
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Speaker 1: What do you remember about that game? Well? Do you

613
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: know all the games? Ye out on the head, we'll bated.

614
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Speaker 1: They have a short yards back? Yeaut with a wom

615
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Speaker 1: right right, that's right, you gott you ain't wrong. I'm impressed, Larry,

616
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: because just looking up your stats, um, you know you

617
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: don't hear of too many. Well, first of all, fullback

618
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: unfortunately as a dying breed in the NFL now, but

619
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Speaker 1: even even during your time, they weren't throwing the ball

620
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: to the fullback a ton. But there were a couple

621
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Speaker 1: of seasons in there. You know you had twenty two

622
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: receptions and eighty five which you know was probably your

623
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Speaker 1: best statistical year across the board, ten total touchdowns, and

624
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: you know you had eight hundred yards of offense between

625
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: rushing yards and receiving yards. For a guy that goes

626
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: like two fifty. That's pretty good. Well, you know how

627
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: I was, I was anna pretty good catcher. I'm not

628
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: like Steve, but I called the ball pretty good and

629
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Speaker 1: I called Kenson last touchdown pairs, Oh, Ken Anderson's last touchdown? Yes,

630
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: how about I was gonna ask you. You played with

631
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: some pretty notable guys. Kenny Anderson, you played with Boomer,

632
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: you played with Jim Kellyworth, Yeah, Collinsworth. Those can tell

633
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: us a little bit about Brown, Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell

634
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Speaker 1: us a little bit about the quarterbacks that you played with.

635
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: What were some of the first of all, what were

636
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: the common denominators between the guys that were really good,

637
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: and what were some of the things that made each

638
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: guy unique? When you know he had that he was

639
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: that lived spinning on the ball, so you know you

640
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: had to be careful with him, but he's quarterback. Him

641
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: paid would be Jim Kelly, Yeah, you know, because he

642
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: would put his he put his nose down and go

643
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: for it. You know right now, Larry, were you always

644
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: a big kid? Because I mean you just looked like

645
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: a guy that probably came out of the womb big.

646
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Well, I I left high

647
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: school the two Oh my gosh, you must have been

648
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: a wrecking crew in high school. Yeah, I was. I

649
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: was running the folks on it a Nastix hunt it.

650
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: You know. So when I left high school, I was

651
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: big in fair Yeah you were. You were fat. I

652
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: mean that's a thing that the people don't remember. I

653
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: remember we signed you and I, you know, we knew

654
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: you were a big dude and all that. I didn't

655
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: know that much about yet. And I remember this in

656
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: a preseason game. You turned the corner and went the

657
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: distance and you were out running the angle on guys

658
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, who is that guy? And

659
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that because you turned the corner and

660
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: she's walked in on him and it was I don't

661
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: know what it was, like a thirty five or forty

662
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass or touchdown run. Maybe it was a reception.

663
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, but man, you turned the corner and

664
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: you could really outrun a ton of guys and it

665
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: really was unexpected because of your size. Well, yeah, I was.

666
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: That's one thing I was blessed with that sweet you know. Uh,

667
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm the only man that can say that. Aren't ran

668
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: herschel Walker? When did you do that? I did that

669
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: my time my senior year in college. I mean in

670
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: high school that where'd you see herschel at the reading

671
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: who was going to the state, who was trying to

672
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: making this state? And the reading tracked me. Yes, okay,

673
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: how would you like to be a fan of the

674
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: What event did you out run him in? Is one

675
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: hundred or the two hundred? What the hundred yard you

676
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: out round herschel Walker one hundred yard dash? Yes, at

677
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds. I hope you live me.

678
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: I got a whole finish right here? A picture. Oh yeah,

679
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: it was a photo finish. Yes, Larry, I hope you

680
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: about aren't ran about four yards, but I got the

681
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: picture where me and him were running there. Larry, I

682
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: hope you lived to be two hundred years old. But

683
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: when you do die, put that on your tombs to own,

684
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: because that's something else. When Steve, I don't think none

685
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: of them going to live that long, but I'm gonna

686
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: trying to. I'm gonna trying to make it. There. There

687
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: you go? Are you are you still? Are you? Are you?

688
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: Are you in Georgia? You're in your home state of Georgia?

689
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: I'm in Rome? Yeah? Yeah, all right, Well that's great. Well, look, Larry,

690
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: thanks for taking some time to join us and to play.

691
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: I want to say, highlight all the Buffalo fans out

692
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: there that they're hearing you. I appreciate it, Larry, Thank

693
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: you so much. All Right, Larry, thanks for taking some

694
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: time signing. That was he was. I was shocked at

695
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: how fast he was because he you know, he had

696
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: that one he had that look two fifty. Yeah, he

697
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: was six one, big heavy dude. And you see here

698
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: on the highlights people, he looks fast on he's he's

699
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: out running the whole Miami defense around the corner. It

700
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. He did that. Where what I think it was?

701
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: Where was it? Man? It's like, God, Carolina or someplace

702
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: we went up preseason game. I can't remember. He turned

703
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: the corner and I was like, are you kidding me? Yeah,

704
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. He was that. You know, that's

705
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: that's a guy that was you know, I mean, you

706
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: look exactly what he did. That last image we just

707
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: had up for our MSG viewers. He's running behind how's Ballard? He?

708
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, his body frame is similar to Ballard. He's

709
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: not out of scale. Yeah, he was not nearly as tall,

710
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: of course, but may man, he had wide. He's awfully

711
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: wide and look at those legs, they're like tree trunks.

712
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: He was, I gotta tell you, Like Bill Polian, I

713
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: don't know. He had an affinity for fullbacks that could run,

714
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: like between Larry Kinnebrew and Jamie Mueller, who in college

715
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: was running in the four fours. Yeah, Himie, Himie could

716
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: really go. And when and here's a testament too. Now,

717
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: they never asked Larry Kinnebrew to do this, but when

718
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: they got Jamie Mueller, he came in and hit. During

719
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: his career, he came in I think at about two

720
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: twenty eight, two thirty two, something like that, and at

721
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: one point they got him all the way up to

722
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: two thirty eight two forty to play when they were

723
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: doing fullbacks. Then when they were gonna go single back,

724
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: when they went to the no huddle kind of stuff,

725
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 1: they didn't need a fullback anymore. And they said, Jamie,

726
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: if you want to do this, you're gonna have to

727
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: be a tailback and you have to drop him back down.

728
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: He got all the way down to two twenty or thereabouts,

729
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: and and the next year as a missile on special teams.

730
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: And the next year he came back and he had

731
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: trouble catching it a little bit. He came back the

732
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: next year and caught everything in training camp. Yeah, I

733
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: mean he came out as a you know, guys like that.

734
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: So when they were fullbacks and it's like Larry, Larry

735
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: kind of got you know, you get phased out because

736
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: the teams, you know, didn't use them so much. Now

737
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: you can't even find them. They're not they're an oddity.

738
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: But back then, every team maybe kind of had one,

739
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: and if you got phased out, either had to change,

740
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: adapt or die. He said he ran a four three

741
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: forty in high school and a nine six hundred. I

742
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: don't know about a nine to six hundred. That's one

743
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: hundred yards, one hundred yards. He had not one hundred meters.

744
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: Hundred yards. That's back in the day. Bah, that's back

745
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: in my day. Hundred gonna say, nobody's doing a nine sixty. Yeah,

746
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: because they changed to one hundred meters during my high

747
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: school career, which I graduated from high school in the

748
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: eighty and he was in earlier than that. Yeah, seventy

749
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: eight he probably finished. So yeah, that's about right. Everything

750
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: was in yards then. That's right about the type of

751
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: switch over. Yeah, he'd be a commodity now, yes, six one,

752
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: two fifty five and like that. That's those are the

753
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: guys you get up there, man, that's what. That's the

754
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: guys you get in the league. That's crazy guys. Yeah.

755
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: It ran Herschel Walker in the hundred meters. He's got

756
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: that photo on his wall. You know he does. You

757
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: know he does. That's a legend. Oh you know who

758
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: this guy? He's over here behind me. The people in Rome,

759
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: New York, of the Rome, Georgia, they know that story.

760
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: That story is this guy behind me in the photo.

761
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: You know who he is? That's no, I don't know

762
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: who Herschel that's Hershel Walker. Maybe you heard of him

763
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: that that story at every time he goes to the

764
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: barber shop in Rome, or that story gets told, oh yeah,

765
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: every time. Good to have him on. That was a

766
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: good addition to test. That was fun. We gotta take

767
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, we will crack open

768
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: the obl fan Friday mail bag. We'll do that when

769
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: we return here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health,

770
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live.

771
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Jasker with you closing up Hour number one.

772
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: We're here with you until three this afternoon on this

773
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: fan mail bag Friday, and it's time to open up

774
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: that fan mail bag. And the first question on the

775
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: docket comes from Tiffany. With the combine being adjusted to

776
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: pro days and several top prospects opting out of last

777
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: year's college season, what do you see the Bills possibility

778
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: doing with this year's draft? What do you see the

779
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: Bills possibly doing with this year's draft picks? I'm guessing

780
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: she's asking do they move up her down? And I

781
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: just think it's based on circumstance. I think that the combine,

782
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: I think the end the outside perception Steve is with

783
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: no combine, it is really upset the apple cart in

784
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: terms of the draft preparation that teams do. And while

785
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I do agree that it has cut back precipitously on

786
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: the face to face meetings with players to kind of

787
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: get to know them, feel them out a little bit,

788
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: understand their personality, you know what their makeup is, and

789
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: all of that, the vast majority of the evaluations in

790
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: terms of the player they are are usually that Hay

791
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: is usually in the bar and by the time you

792
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: get to bowl season. In the college season, I would say,

793
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: the opt outs probably have a bigger impact on the evaluations.

794
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: There are some guys in this draft class. Steve didn't

795
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: stet foot on a field in twenty twenty, right, and

796
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: people are going off twenty nineteen ape and there are

797
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: some prospects Steve that in twenty nine. Oh, you know,

798
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: this guy's on the comm I'd really love to see

799
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: what he does in twenty twenty, and he's not there.

800
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: I wonder. I think in retrospect, I think those guys

801
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: who opted out would probably say is a mistake. I think, oh,

802
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: based in terms of their draft value. Absolutely, there were

803
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: a lot of unknown it's out of sight, out of mind. Ye,

804
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: now certainly because I yeah, attention means you're higher in

805
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, my attention by more people means there's

806
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: more people thinking about you. And I think those guys

807
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: that are out of you know, not on the team,

808
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to play. There were a lot

809
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: of guys that opted out that went down to the

810
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl to try to at least show some part

811
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: of their game at least as it's currently constituted for

812
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: a week in practice, but that's limited. Yeah, I suppose

813
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: I think some of those guys have got to regret it.

814
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not all of them. Maybe they feel

815
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: like they did the right thing. It's an interesting dilemma though,

816
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: the real and to answer you know, Tiff or tiff

817
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: TIFF's question, I think the philosophy doesn't change for the

818
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: Bills in the draft. They're gonna try and get into

819
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: position before the draft to take be able to take

820
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: the best player that's there, whether he's an offensive lineman,

821
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, running back, tailback, tight end, wide receiver, even so,

822
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: you know, I think they'll try to get to that

823
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: spot sort of that if there's a guy that they

824
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: feel is significantly better or as a significant by saying

825
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: significantly better, here's what I mean. They're gonna pick the

826
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: guys who, at the point where they it's their turn,

827
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: have the best chance to put together a pro career,

828
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: the best pro career, whatever position they are. They don't

829
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: want to pick a guy just to say, oh, listen,

830
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: we don't have we got so many wide receivers. We're

831
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna take a wide receiver. Let's take this defensive back. Well,

832
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: that defensive back is gonna get cut in three weeks.

833
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 1: But the wide receiver, even if he doesn't make your team.

834
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: He's good enough to play in the NFL, and he's

835
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: gonna make the guys on your team better, and you're

836
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna hang on to him or use him as an

837
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: asset at least even in trade bait or whatever, or

838
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: maybe somebody gets injured. Now he's playing, and now you're

839
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: you gotta have him. So they're gonna get into a

840
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: position where they the guy they pick on the on

841
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: the board when it's their turn is going to be

842
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: the guy, in their view, is going to have the

843
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: best chance to put together a really nice NFL career,

844
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: if not a great NFL career. I will that's the philosophy.

845
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: I will say this regarding the opt outs, players that

846
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: opted out, you're talking about the college players at college

847
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: players that opted out, didn't play in twenty twenty and

848
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: are now in this year's draft pool. I believe that

849
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: the general approach of NFL scouting departments will be to

850
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: grade them conservatively almost air on the side of you know,

851
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: air on the side of caution there because you're going

852
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: off of less information. There is a smaller body of work,

853
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: and that only leads you to an area where you

854
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: are less certain about the kind of player that you

855
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: believe they can be. You have less to go on,

856
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: and so I think to try to do right by

857
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: the team you work for. You say, well, I believe

858
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: he can do a B, C and D. How does

859
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: he project well? I would have liked to see in

860
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: another year of development. But going off of what we have,

861
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: the best grade I can give him right now is

862
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: a third round grade, where if he played all last

863
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: season and lights it up. I mean, let's think about

864
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. I mean, before the twenty nineteen season, Joe

865
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: Burrow was a third round prospect. He became the first

866
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. I mean, guys can change their

867
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: fortunes dramatically in their final college spending with a smaller

868
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: body of work. I think these college scouts are gonna

869
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: are gonna not knock them, but they're gonna give them

870
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: a more conservative grade because there's less certainty about what

871
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: they can develop into. Having not seen them on a

872
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: football field for over a year. Think about it, they

873
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: could this last time I saw him, who was playing

874
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: against East Nowhere Tech, and he was nineteen. Now he's

875
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: twenty one yea and change, and I haven't seen him

876
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: since since he was playing against a dental student. Yeah,

877
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: so I don't know how this guy's gonna be. That's

878
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: that's hard. And now that's an I'm exaggerating to make

879
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: the point that you know, you haven't seen him against

880
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: competition within twelve months. For more, it's gonna be in April.

881
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be sixteen months since the Bull season that

882
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: the guy was in. So yeah, that's that's a lot

883
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: of information that could have been gleaned. And there were

884
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: other college prospects who did choose to play but then

885
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: had their season interrupted by COVID or they had a

886
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: team outbreak and couldn't play for three weeks. So now

887
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: you're playing two games, you're off for two weeks. You

888
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: try to come back and just be at that same level.

889
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: That's hard to do. And so now maybe you're not

890
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: even putting your best product on the field, you know,

891
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: in terms of what you truly can be as a

892
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: football that's tough. You know, there's gonna be tough. You're

893
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna get. So I think you're gonna get in this draft.

894
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot of wide ranging Oh yeah,

895
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: performances as pros. You're gonna get A guy said, we've

896
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: got him in the fifth round and all of a sudden,

897
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: the guys all Pro for fourth straight year. That kind

898
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: of thing. Well, you're gonna but I think grades are

899
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna be wide ranging, That's what I was that was

900
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna get to because there's no combines, so there's no

901
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: general uniform place where they came in ready to play

902
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: and say, okay, everybody thinks that guy's that fast. They

903
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: know it. They saw it with their own eyes and

904
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: they all saw it at the same time. Now you're

905
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna go in and he's gonna run for this team,

906
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna run for that team. He's gonna see a

907
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: pro days. It's gonna be okay, good m what did

908
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: you see? And I said, well, you know, he's not

909
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. You know, he didn't they to. You're

910
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: gonna have different people looking at the guy, and they're

911
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: gonna see two different football players in the same person.

912
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: And theoretically, and that happens in a draft run up anyway,

913
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: because different teams are looking for different kinds of fits.

914
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: They don't draft the player on his own ability. They say,

915
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: how does this player fit the Bills? And he could

916
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: fit the Bills really well, but not fit the Bengals

917
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: at all. And so that's how grades are normally different

918
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: in a normal year. But now in this year, between

919
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 1: opt outs getting on the field, getting pulled off the field,

920
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: or I mean players playing getting on the field off

921
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: the field and then opt out it's not playing at all,

922
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: the grades are gonna be far more wide ranging anything.

923
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: So we have to take a break. Well, we come

924
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: back more of your male bad questions when we return

925
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's

926
00:51:51,920 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, Balo Hills, Sudio Network Sports Date, You're

927
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: over Sports update from One Bill's Dry. Free agent punter

928
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: Michael Pollardi is visiting the Bills today. As ESPN's Adam

929
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: Scheffer reported, Pollardi tore his acl while playing basketball of

930
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: his son last summer. He missed all of last season

931
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: as a result, and was just cut by Carolina two

932
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Pollardy joined the Panthers in twenty sixteen handled

933
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: all of their punting duties for three seasons. He has

934
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 1: a career grows punting average of forty five point three.

935
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: The Bills carried over just under six million in salary

936
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: cap space from twenty twenty after the NFL finalized its

937
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: club adjustments and carry over for the twenty twenty one

938
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: league year. That means their salary cap space will be

939
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: a bit higher than expected when the league officially announces

940
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: a hard and fast cap number. Buffalo's total is twenty

941
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: first in the NFL in terms of carry over. Last year,

942
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: the NFL released the regular season schedule on May seventh.

943
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: This year, it'll happen even later. By a Ben Fisher

944
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: of Sports Business journe the NFL says that it currently

945
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: is targeting the second week of May for the twenty

946
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: twenty one schedule release. That would make it the latest

947
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: schedule of releasing league history. The traces to the creation

948
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: of a seventeen game season and the uncertainties regarding in

949
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: stadium attendance. Word last week was that the Washington football

950
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: team would release Alex Smith in the near future, and

951
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: the time has come. Washington has efficiently released Smith. The

952
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: move comes after Smith made a remarkable comeback from his

953
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen leg injury to start six games during the

954
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: team's run to the NFC East title. He saves them

955
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars on their cap, but he does want

956
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: to play in the league in twenty twenty one. Maya

957
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: Chaka has been added to the NFL's roster of officials

958
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty one season, making her the second

959
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: woman and first black woman among the NFL's on field officials.

960
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: Chaca has served several years at the college level, most

961
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: recently in the PAC twelve, and has also worked XFL

962
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: games and this year's Senior Bowl. Matt Martin scored twice

963
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: and the Islanders beat the Sabers again, this time five

964
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: two on Thursday night and the opener of a three

965
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: game series. Taylor Hall rastmis Ritzilligan scored for Buffalo, which

966
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: has now lost five straight back to back matinee games

967
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: on the Island starting tomorrow at one pm. That is

968
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: your sports update from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown, Steve

969
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: Tasker here with you for outward number two of a

970
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: Friday edition of One Bill's Live broadcasting from the Seneca

971
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: Studios here in Orchard Park, and back into the obl

972
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: fan mailbag. We dive Steve and we've got Andrew up next,

973
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: who says, do we have confirmation all the opt out

974
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: players are coming back? Star is thirty one, thirty two

975
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: years old and after taking a year off is it

976
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: for sure he's coming back. We're putting a lot of

977
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: faith in him returning. I guess he's wondering if Starr

978
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: after a year off, is just going to out and

979
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: out retire. I would hear anything about that. Yeah, I

980
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: would tend to think. No, anybody that's got about ten

981
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: million dollars sitting on the table is probably willing to

982
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: play after getting a season off. I would probably feeling good.

983
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, what we're his heads at

984
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: or anything, but yeah, And they don't have an opt

985
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: There is no option on the table at this point

986
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: in time that they are able to opt out. There's

987
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: not going to be that had to be negotiated for

988
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: players to get a chance to opt out. And and

989
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but even though Starlow

990
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: tu Lele opted out, the fact of the matter is

991
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: he's still made I believe, three hundred and fifty grand

992
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: last year. Uh, just as a as a stipend. I

993
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: guess you'd say, uh to the fact that he was

994
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: under contract. Now that comes off the top of his

995
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: salary this year. It was just an advance on the salary. Uh.

996
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: But you know that's just the way it works. So

997
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: there's no option for anybody to opt out this year

998
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: that that's not a deal uh anymore. So if he's

999
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: if he's gonna come back, he's got to play. He

1000
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: can't opt out again. And there's never been no word

1001
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: that he's going to retire. Yeah, I mean, you're right,

1002
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: that is a lot of faith to put in on him.

1003
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: I think they missed him last year, and I think

1004
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: people kind of right, And he makes an Andrew makes

1005
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: a great point. You just expect him to be the

1006
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: guy who was when he left. There's no guarantees of that.

1007
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: That's right. And at least the early word is it's

1008
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: not an especially deep class at defensive tackle in the

1009
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: draft this year. So then you say, well, do you

1010
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: insulate yourself in free agency? Do you go with the

1011
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: guys that you had from last year that you signed

1012
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: in free agency? You know, Vernon Butler played some DT

1013
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: both the one and the three. Quentin Jefferson was more

1014
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: of an exclusive three technique player. So yeah, do you

1015
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: want to shuffle the deck? Do you feel you need

1016
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: to try to upgrade if you can, And does that

1017
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: mean lopping some of those guys off your books? It

1018
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: could based on the tight cap situation. That's what's going

1019
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: to be so fascinating, not just what the Bills add

1020
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: to the roster, but who they may have to subtract

1021
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: to make those additions. Right, I think restructure is a

1022
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: real thing. I think most players who are any kind

1023
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: of a veteran understand how that works and that they're

1024
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: an obvious candidate their representation certainly should their agents. So

1025
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: that's still on the table. You don't hear about that

1026
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: stuff until it actually happens unless you're you know, you

1027
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: happen to be working for an agency or something. But

1028
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: I've got to think that right now, given the atmosphere

1029
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: that's around the National Football League and where the Buffalo

1030
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Bills stand in all of it, Brandon being and those

1031
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: guys are probably not getting much sleep. Yeah, there's a

1032
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: lot of if then continuencies. They have worked probably painstakingly

1033
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: through over the last month and a half, and it's

1034
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: all I exacerbated by the fact that nobody can sit

1035
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: down together, so they're on all these zoom calls probably constantly,

1036
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: and that they still have no heart and fast number

1037
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: as to what the number is right that they have

1038
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: to be under. So there's there's a lot of I

1039
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of guests were Eagles, Yeah, and

1040
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: I think there's some some teams, it's a varying degree, certainly,

1041
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: like teams like the Coal and Jacksonville and the New

1042
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: England Patriots and the Jets, they're sitting there going just

1043
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: tell us how much we've got We know we've got

1044
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: a ton. Yeah. Other teams like the Bills are right

1045
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: at that number and had kind of had anticipated being

1046
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: right at that number, but still you gotta get you

1047
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: gotta get there right. So they want to know where

1048
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: they're at and if they're gonna be able to sign

1049
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: or who they're gonna have to sign, or who they're

1050
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to be structure, and how much work they've

1051
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: got to do. And then there's teams like the Saints

1052
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: who they're throwing they're throwing luggage off the train man.

1053
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: They're trying to lighten the load because they are way underwater.

1054
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Eagles are doing that too. They just restructured their center

1055
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey to try to save some money on the

1056
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: cap there. So that's going to be happening far more

1057
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: frequently over the next couple of weeks. From Thomas in

1058
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: the obl Fan mail bag. What players are in jeopardy

1059
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: of losing a roster spot when Star returns? What effect

1060
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: does he have on the pass rush? In my opinion,

1061
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds has immense athleticism. Would he be better at

1062
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: outside linebacker? All right, let's take the Star conversation here first,

1063
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: then we'll get to Tremaine. So what players are in

1064
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: jeopardy of losing a roster spot when Star returns? So

1065
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: let's think about the guys on the interior that we're

1066
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: on this roster last year. Okay, so you're talking about

1067
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, ed Oliver, Quentin Jefferson, Vernon Butler, and then

1068
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: Justin Zimmer. And I mean, we see some other guys

1069
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: that were on the practice squad that are under contract,

1070
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Brian among them. So the question becomes, do you

1071
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: simply lop off somebody at Star's position, which in looking

1072
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: at this it might be somebody like a Justin Zimmer

1073
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: or do you go leaner at defensive end? So that's

1074
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: the question that has to be asked here. Do you

1075
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: go heavy at defensive tackle in terms of numbers and

1076
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: lighter at defensive end or do you just do an

1077
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: eye for an eye and a defensive tackle out with

1078
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: Starr coming back in Yeah, if you had to bring

1079
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: back four defensive ends and four defensive tackles. I think

1080
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: they carried nine defensive linemen on the active roster last year,

1081
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: and I believe it was five defensive ends because it

1082
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: was Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, Ajpin Sa, Darryl Johnson, and

1083
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy, and then Trent Murphy for the majority of

1084
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: the season quickly became the weekly inactive right, And so

1085
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: they would go with four dts and four defensive ends

1086
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: on game day. In most cases, sometimes it was just

1087
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: three because we remember there was a time there where

1088
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips was inactive on a relatively weekly basis in

1089
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: the first half of the season. A lot of that

1090
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: he was inactive justin Zimmer, wasn't am I right? Oh, yes,

1091
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. So they did so they would

1092
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: dress eight usually right right, And it was a it

1093
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: was a decision they had to make between Aston Zimmer

1094
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: and Yeah. And that was because they were takes so

1095
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: much right they wrote that that's the way they do it.

1096
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: They rotate eight guys too, to keep them fresh. So

1097
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: if they don't have and that and the philosophy, and

1098
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: I think that would that's an interesting question you bring up,

1099
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 1: you know, the pass rush and all that we saw,

1100
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: and we've been talking about the last couple of weeks

1101
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: about how crucial we had. Wade phillips On yesterday said, yeah,

1102
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: that's the magic thing. If you've got four guys that

1103
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: can rush the passer, that's the kind of the elixir

1104
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: for a great defense. And the question also that was

1105
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: asked was what effect does he have on the pass rush. Now,

1106
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: I will say this, a lot of times he was

1107
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: off the field on obvious passing down, so you would

1108
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: say no effect, but not all the time. But not

1109
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: all the time, but in the instances where he is

1110
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: in there and it's a passing down, if he's drawing

1111
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: a double team, that means somebody like yet Oliver is

1112
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: getting singled. And in single matchup situations, Ed wins a lot,

1113
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: doesn't win a lot of double teams. But you get

1114
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: him one on one with some guards and centers in

1115
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: this league and he will win in a one on

1116
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: one situation far more often than we saw last year.

1117
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: So that's his impact. Yeah, so you get that pass rush,

1118
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: and I think what happens is they run eight guys

1119
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: through there pretty consistently. That's certainly they picked their spots

1120
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: where they rotate them through, but they do it consistently.

1121
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: So like Jerry Hughes is on on passing to situations

1122
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: things like that star low tu lelay is on and

1123
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: heavy rundown percentage, that second down stars in there a

1124
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: lot that kind of thing. When you've got a team

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Speaker 1: that you know runs a lot on second down or

1126
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: first down or whatever or whatever down a distance, it

1127
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: happens to be you've got statistics and say, hey, when

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01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: this happens, we're gonna rotate you in that kind of thing. Now,

1129
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,439
Speaker 1: if the Bills can get to a spot where they've

1130
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: got four guys, that's when the other team's gonna throw it.

1131
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: You got to have those four guys in because they

1132
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: can get there in a hurry. They'll do that. And

1133
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: I think if if that eight man rotation that Sean

1134
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: McDermott likes to do, that'll start to evolve out when

1135
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: they get four defensive linemen who are dominant. I don't

1136
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: think they've had that right, but you remember, it got

1137
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: to a point where rushing with four had become so

1138
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: ineffective and getting consistent pressure on the quarterback that they

1139
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: reduced that rotation. Said, well, we're not getting the consistent

1140
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: pressure we want with a heavy rotation. We're going to

1141
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: pare down the rotation and put the best four guys

1142
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: that we think can get to the passer on the field.

1143
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: And so we saw a lot more of Jerry Hughes,

1144
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: we saw a lot more of Mario Addison. So that's

1145
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: kind of how it went with limited success. I mean,

1146
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: it was a limited uptick in production. It was about

1147
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: and it was about the timing of blitzes, where the

1148
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: blitzes came from, who was blitzing. There were blitzing dbs.

1149
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: You know, you remember the Tredavious white strip sack fumble

1150
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: TD that Jerry Hughes ran in in Denver. They used

1151
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: aj Klein effectively and Rry Johnson. They got all these

1152
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: guys and they just pick a different guy. But there's

1153
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: no question that the fact remains of the Bills needed

1154
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: to send extra guys if they really wanted to get

1155
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: pressure and make sure they did because they couldn't count

1156
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: on just four guys rushing making sure that they got

1157
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: there all right. Second part of Thomas's question. In his opinion,

1158
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds has immense athleticism, would he'd be better as

1159
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker. I'm gonna admit this, Steve. I have

1160
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: given this some thought, and the only reason I have

1161
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: is because he is a long player. I know in

1162
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: three fours very often the physical statue you're looking for

1163
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: is taller, longer linebackers in a three four system. And

1164
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: he did play outside linebacker at Virginia Tech, and he

1165
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: rushed the passer off the edge. It was the Bill's

1166
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: decision to put him at middle linebacker, and I'm not

1167
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: saying he can't play there. But you hear the comments

1168
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: from fans about Tremaine's game and how they feel like

1169
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't get to his spots in the blink of

1170
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: an eye, or he doesn't always anticipate, or he can

1171
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: get fooled sometimes. Well, look, every middle linebacker gets fooled sometimes.

1172
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: That's just part of the deal. You're not gonna win

1173
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: on every single play. But I you admit that I

1174
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: have thought about this at times, and I've said to myself, well,

1175
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: if Matt Milano is not coming back, do you put

1176
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds outside and find a middle linebacker. Well, what

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01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: they're saying is yeah, outside, okay, whatever. They only play

1178
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: two linebackers right ever, I mean eighty five percent of

1179
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: their snatch with two linebackers in the game, not three,

1180
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: not four. And if you're going outside linebacker that it's

1181
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: a three four defense. You're playing four all the time

1182
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: and only three down linemen. The Bills never play that defense.

1183
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: They're a two linebacker team. You got two athletic linebackers

1184
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: who can really run. Tremaine Edmunds fits that really well

1185
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: because for one thing, he can he can. His size

1186
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: and speed give him the ability to carry a linebacker

1187
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field. But also what they

1188
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: usually do is letting Milano have man demand on the

1189
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: tight end and give Tremaine a different assignment, either to

1190
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: rush the passer or to take the back out of

1191
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: the backfield, or to make sure the quarterback stays in

1192
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: the pocket, or to drop back into his own read.

1193
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: You're right. He has not built like a quintessential middle linebacker. Yeah,

1194
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: he has built like a power forward or an outside linebacker,

1195
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: a long, lean edge rusher, no question about it. But

1196
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: they like him his athleticism and his building right where

1197
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: they've got him well. That length that middle linebacker is

1198
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: something that a lot more teams are looking for these

1199
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: days to take away the middle of the field in

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01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: the passing game, because his length makes it hard for

1201
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to hit the deep over on him. If he's dropping,

1202
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to get it over him and underneath the

1203
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: safety exactly. And that's why some teams are are looking

1204
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: for guys just like Tremaine Emmonds to play the quote

1205
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: unquote middle linebacker. Personally, I think they leave him right

1206
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: where he is because you're already losing one guy at

1207
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: a second level. To put the other guy that starts

1208
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: for you the last three years and move them to

1209
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: a different position to learn, I don't think that's a

1210
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: great idea. I would leave him right where he is,

1211
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: let him keep calling the defense, hope that next year

1212
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: he proves to be more instinctive, and hopefully you get

1213
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: an athlete to line up next to him, whether it's

1214
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: in a draft of free agency. I I know this too.

1215
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: You know people want him to I don't know, play

1216
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: better or show up more well. I don't know what

1217
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: it is, but I get it. I understand it. This

1218
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: defense for the Bills, particularly at linebacker is much different

1219
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: than a lot of defenses we see around the national

1220
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: football I'm certainly it's not like any defenses Like through

1221
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: the eighties, nineties and early two thousands, nobody played defense

1222
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: like the Bills do with like two lines. You did

1223
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 1: it in sub packages, but they do it all the time.

1224
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 1: That's their base defense. It's Tremaine and Milano, the four

1225
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: dbs and four down linemen. That's the way they play

1226
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: their defense. And Tremaine is built for the way the

1227
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: Bills want to play this defense now, certainly, and you

1228
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: can say what you want about the philosophy of that,

1229
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: but it seems to be pretty good. I mean, you

1230
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: say what you want about the way their defense was

1231
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: this last year, but they're a team that's in the

1232
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: playoffs three out of the last four years, and they

1233
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: were in the AFC Championship game. They're getting better every year,

1234
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: and albeit though they look different every year, they're a

1235
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: different team every year. I still think I hear what

1236
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: you say about the defense, and particularly in a year

1237
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: like they had this year. Yeah, but Tremaine's not going anywhere, right.

1238
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: I think there is the outside perception, at least from

1239
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: the fans, that we've heard from on this show and

1240
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: just walking around out on the street, the expectations that

1241
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: come with being the sixteenth pick in the draft, or

1242
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: I think what people get hung up on and the

1243
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: fact that the guy that got drafted nine spots ahead

1244
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: of him had this wildly successful breakout year in the

1245
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: former Josh Allen, who is after the same year, nine

1246
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: picks ahead of him, and they see that guy blow

1247
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: up in year three, and I think they look at

1248
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: Tremaine and they say, well, well, hold on a second.

1249
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: This guy just got taken nine picks after him. He's

1250
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: got to be seen as an elite prospect as well.

1251
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: Where's the breakout year for him? And I think that's

1252
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: where people were getting hung up on. I think the

1253
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: defense changed around him, particularly upfront where he did plays.

1254
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, he was hurt by stars

1255
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: to see when you watch this team, the best one

1256
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 1: of the funnest things you see Tremaine does rush the passer.

1257
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: He's good at it. Not to say he's not good

1258
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: at anything else, but it's nice to see him in

1259
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: there because he's so long and he's he takes up

1260
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: so much space in those tight areas. He can reach

1261
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: he can reach, you know, between offensive lineman, grab the quarterback,

1262
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: he can get around guys. He's a nice nimble pass

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Speaker 1: rusher for as tall as he is. And people say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, just let him do that, but I think

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Speaker 1: that limits him in your ability to use him another

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Speaker 1: places in your defense. So I I hear the talk

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Speaker 1: about Tremaine Edmunds, and I understand and how everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to tinker with what they're doing defensively because they had

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Speaker 1: a year that was not as good as it was

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Speaker 1: two years ago. But I don't think I think that's

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Speaker 1: a tough sell to make to Leslie Fraser and Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott about the way their defense is being played. From

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Speaker 1: Bernie on the fan mail Bag, my question has to

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Speaker 1: do with timing. Given that so many teams will be

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Speaker 1: releasing talented players due to cap constraints, wouldn't McDermott and

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: Bean be better waiting to see who other teams cut

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Speaker 1: before signing good but not great players from their own

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01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: team last year? I would say unequivocally yes, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's why they are waiting. I am sure that

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Speaker 1: some contract parameters have been discussed in this building about

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Speaker 1: their own free agents, and I don't think they'd be

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Speaker 1: disappointed if they brought some of their own guys back,

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Speaker 1: But they don't want to have buyer's remorse either, right.

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Speaker 1: I think they will do that, And you've said it too.

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01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: I think patience is going to be the key for

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01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: training for a free agency this year for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll make a move at midnight next

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Speaker 1: Wednesday when free agency opens up, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be they'll sit back, they'll wait. They

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Speaker 1: know there's going to be a ton of really good

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Speaker 1: football players out there, and they've probably once those guys

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Speaker 1: are out there and available, you know, and obviously the

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01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: guys that are already out there, they know, they'll formulate

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Speaker 1: a list of guys at every position that'll say, listen,

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Speaker 1: if we might have to take a deep breath, if

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Speaker 1: this guy becomes available and he's still there ten days

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Speaker 1: into free agency, yeah, we might have to say we

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Speaker 1: might have to shuffle our deck a little bit. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I agree with that completely. I think it's a smart move.

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Speaker 1: You'll come out, You'll just be patient. There'll be a

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Speaker 1: number of players out there that you're thinking that guy maybe,

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01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: and then you'll see what's it going to take to

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Speaker 1: sign him? How do we make that happen? How does

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Speaker 1: that make us better or worse without signing him? I mean,

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01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: so he's out there. If we change our roster and

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Speaker 1: restructure or release two guys, does that take too much

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01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: away to make this guy worth making that move? You know,

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Speaker 1: you'll make those calculations and then pull the trigger if

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Speaker 1: you need, if you want to. I mean, perfect example

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Speaker 1: is the Las Vegas Raiders guard who's going to be

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Speaker 1: cut here in Gabe Jackson? Right, that was a guy

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01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: that kept John Feliciano on the bench in Oakland. They

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Speaker 1: were still in Oakland at the time. John Feliciano couldn't

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Speaker 1: get on the field because Gabe Jackson was that good.

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Speaker 1: Would you be interested in him? The Raiders saw him

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Speaker 1: as an upgrade. He was a starter and John Feliciano wasn't.

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Speaker 1: And you've got two years of film to look at

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Speaker 1: and say, right, And Bobby Johnson was on that coaching

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01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: staff and knows Gabe Jackson intimately just as well as

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Speaker 1: he knew John Feliciano. So that's like an example of

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Speaker 1: what the bills are going to be weighing out in

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Speaker 1: terms of what direction they go, who they bring back,

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Speaker 1: who they bring in that's new, and who they can afford.

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Speaker 1: Obviously is Steve mentioned as part of that equation as well.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break, but we're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: more of your questions. You got some good ones coming

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Speaker 1: in here. There's a lot to chew on, and Steve

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Speaker 1: and I will be doing that when we return here

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live presented by Collid to Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Caster with you obl fan mail bag open. I

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Speaker 1: believe that Georgia Pro Day is today and the Draft

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Speaker 1: Network is watching it wherever they are where it's being streamed,

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Speaker 1: I guess, and they're reporting the forty yard dashtime that

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Speaker 1: popped up for Georgia cornerback Eric Stokes four two five.

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Speaker 1: That is moving. The ironic thing is if you go

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Speaker 1: to the Draft Networks breakdown of him as a player,

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Speaker 1: it says he lacks elite playing speed, which means he

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Speaker 1: could very well be just a straight line speed guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, they can't stop and start in an elite way,

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Speaker 1: which you would say is more important. That's what happens man,

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Speaker 1: you get you get guys that are really fast, but

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Speaker 1: they can't stop and start. And I know I've told

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Speaker 1: you a bunch. It's that's you can be an elite

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Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL or round a four or five,

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01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: maybe in mid four fives, and I don't know about

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Speaker 1: a four to six maybe four six, But it's your

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 1: route running and you're because it's not about out running anybody.

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Speaker 1: Certainly that helps. Certain you know a guy like Tyree

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,560
Speaker 1: Hill who's that way. You can fast, but even so

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Speaker 1: there are ways. You know, even in the Super Bowl

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01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: they kind of kept a lid on it. But you're

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01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: a built It's not about out running them, it's about

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Speaker 1: fooling them. And that's why route running is such a

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Speaker 1: such a premium. Now, Steph Diggs for an example, Cole

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: Beasley for an example. He can stop and start and

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Speaker 1: change directions better than defenders can and he creates separation.

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Speaker 1: And that's always been what has made an NFL receiver

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Speaker 1: different from a guy who is a fast guy, worry

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Speaker 1: and a good college receiver. And I was impressed when

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Speaker 1: I remember when Lee Evans was made a first round

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Speaker 1: pick here of the Bills in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 1: And this was a guy who came back from an

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Speaker 1: ACL knee injury and ran like a four four one

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Speaker 1: four three nine somewhere in there. And I asked him about,

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Speaker 1: you know, his playing speed, and he goes, it was

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Speaker 1: nice to kind of come back from the injury and

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Speaker 1: still be fast, he said, but really that's not the

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Speaker 1: key to getting open in the NFL. And I was like, wow, like,

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Speaker 1: this is a first year guy that already knows that

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Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. You know, he knew it wasn't about

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Speaker 1: how fast you can run. It's about how quickly you

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Speaker 1: can separate. It's about yeah, it's about getting the guy

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Speaker 1: running the opposite direction than you are, basically, and that's guys,

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Speaker 1: there's techniques that you use in route running and all

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Speaker 1: of that and it works, and yeah, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: real crucial thing. So certainly, what the forty time does,

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Speaker 1: the box jump does vertical, your bench pressure, explosion, your strength,

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Speaker 1: your power, all of that stuff give gives them benchmarks

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Speaker 1: as as to your athletic ability. And that basically is

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Speaker 1: an entry ticket into the NFL. You're going to get

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01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: a chance to compete for a roster spot. But if

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Speaker 1: you want to be good. You've got to win with

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: technique and knowledge, and you know the way you the

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01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: way you work your craft. That's that's what has always

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Speaker 1: set apart the great ones from Jack in the obl

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Speaker 1: fan mail bag, and we'll get to some callers who

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Speaker 1: are waiting for us in just a second. At eight

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Speaker 1: three five fifty, Jack says, what under the radar or

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01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: Tier two signing could help the Bills needs right away?

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01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: They aren't flush with cap runs, so they need to

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Speaker 1: bargain hunt, thankfully being as shown a pension for sales shopping.

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Speaker 1: An interesting guy for me is tight and Dan Arnold

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: great size, good speed and hand. So he's talking about

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01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: the Arizona tight end who is going to be a

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Speaker 1: free agent, and I mean, yeah, I was. I found

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Speaker 1: him an intriguing type of player. I don't think his

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Speaker 1: athleticism is going to blow you away, but he's kind

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Speaker 1: of a sneaky effective guy. Certainly wasn't the first, second

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Speaker 1: or third option in that passing offense in Arizona, but

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Speaker 1: I think he's got enough athleticism, and he's a young guy.

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Speaker 1: I think he's only twenty five, So he's an interesting

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Speaker 1: consideration and a guy that I don't that is not

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Speaker 1: going to be part of the first wave of free agency. No,

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01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: and he's going to be looking to land somewhere twenty

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Speaker 1: five years old. Yeah, I think he's out of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: What limits him. One of the things that limits him

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Speaker 1: would be probably his strength. He only weighs two twenty

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01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: he's six six, two twenty. Yeah, and maybe he plays

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01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: with great leverage. You'd have to have a lot of

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Speaker 1: knee bend and stuff. But that that's a guy that's

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Speaker 1: really light and slender. Um. So I'm you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how good he is in the run game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how good he would be as that

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Speaker 1: kind of physical you know, pass protector or whatever, chip

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Speaker 1: block or whatever. But you know, he had he did

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Speaker 1: have thirty one receptions on four touchdowns. He's certainly tall

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Speaker 1: enough at six six, So I you're right, he's a

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Speaker 1: second tier free agent and depending on the situation he

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Speaker 1: gets into. I couldn't tell you whether the guy's waiting

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Speaker 1: to bust out or not. I really don't, but you're right,

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Speaker 1: this is that's the kind of guy. I mean, because

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Speaker 1: you have to. He's one of those guys I had

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Speaker 1: to go look him up. And that's one of the

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Speaker 1: guys that you're you're like thinking, Okay, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the names you're thinking about for the Buffalo Bills at

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Speaker 1: this point until they get their roster filled out in

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Speaker 1: free agency. This is the kind of guy you're thinking

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it with there. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: trying to mine through the defensive tackle positions to try

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Speaker 1: to find some value there. Know, when you're paying big

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: money to star already, you're paying decent money to Vernon Butler.

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Speaker 1: So can you get a veteran in there on a

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Speaker 1: cheap one year deal. Somebody likes Snacks Harrison, who just

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01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: played for one year in Tampa. Somebody like Mike Daniels,

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Speaker 1: a guy that's played nine years in the league and

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01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: bounced around Detroit Cincinnati last year. That guy's nasty, Mike Daniels.

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Speaker 1: That guy's got some nasty to him and can hold

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: the point of attack. I know a lot of people

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: are high on Dalvin Tomlinson, but I don't know if

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01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna cost too much money. So somebody

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01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: like that is a bargain player. Can you find a

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01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: bargain at corner in a veteran player? You know, can

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Speaker 1: a Will Parks from Denver who can play outside and

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01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,480
Speaker 1: in the slot. Be of value to you a Vernon Hargraves.

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01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: Can you get him cheap on a one year deal

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01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: because his contracts up down in Houston? Former first round

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Speaker 1: draft choice Xavier Rhodes who just played last year and

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Speaker 1: had a good season for Indy. He's a free agent

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Speaker 1: and probably I can to be back there. Can you

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Speaker 1: get that guy a ten year vent on a one

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Speaker 1: year deal who's big and has size and can play

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Speaker 1: a physical game. So there are options. I mean even

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Speaker 1: Daryl Worley who played for Las Vegas last year. He's

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Speaker 1: from Carolina, they know him. Is that guy an option?

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01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: We asked Wade Phillips about Troy Hill, a guy who

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Speaker 1: can play outside and in the slot. They like position versatility.

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Speaker 1: Could he be an option in the second or third wave?

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Speaker 1: How about the comeback season Jason Varet had in San

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Speaker 1: Francisco after having an injury riddled a few years with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Maybe he's an option. Desmond King who was

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Speaker 1: a Charger's cast off and landed in Tennessee late last year.

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Speaker 1: He fits his own type scheme. Could he be an

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Speaker 1: option and affordable? So yeah, there are definitely options out there.

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Speaker 1: Kuwan Williams from the forty nine ers who played corner.

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Speaker 1: You know, Niners are gonna they're a team that's probably thinking,

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Speaker 1: you know, they could get They're gonna get some guys back.

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Speaker 1: But there every position out there has got some guys

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Speaker 1: who are quality and who may or may not and

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Speaker 1: in most cases probably there there are free there. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. There are gonna be a free agent out

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01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: there at every position who if you flipped it out,

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01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: would be an upgrade for the Buffalo Bills, except for

1474
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: maybe one or two spots. You know you're gonna you're

1475
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: not gonna get a guy better than Turnavius at this point, uh,

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01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: particularly given his pension for running this defense and his

1477
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: experience in these different thing. Same thing where Josh for

1478
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds. Uh, you know, Dion Dockins,

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01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you know you you you're all set there.

1480
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be guy at center, at guard, at corner,

1481
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: tight ends, all across the roster. They're gonna be elite

1482
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: players that are gonna be available if you wanted to

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01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: go out and get one now the building, Like we said,

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01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: there they're strapped. But if there was one guy they

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01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: thought was gonna make it happen for him, and they

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01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: could afford to lose some other guy, they'd make it.

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01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: They could make it happen. I don't think they're in

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: that position here. I don't think they are. Um. I

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01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: think they're going to continue with the philosophy they've shown

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01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: us over the last four years, and that is, get

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01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: some guys that'll probably be off our radar. Brownie and

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01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: I radar. We you know, they'll be off our radar.

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01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: You can't see everybody. And they'll say this is we're

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01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: gonna get this guy for this much, this guy for

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01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: that much. It'll be okay money, pretty good. Well, for

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: all of us it's good money, but for an NFL

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01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: player it'll be okay money. And they'll say, okay, who

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01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: is this guy? And he'll come in on a prove

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01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: it deal and theoretically outplay that contract. That's the idea.

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Speaker 1: That's the idea. Let's go to the phones for obl

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01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: mail bag questions and we go to Zach and Buffalo

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01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: leading us off today, Zach, what do you have here?

1503
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: On one Bill's Live? Hey, what's going on? Guys? Hey? Man?

1504
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your guy's opinion. I know the

1505
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: cap situation is a big thing right now, and I

1506
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: wanted to know you guys idea of Matt Mulano's value,

1507
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: how much you think you should sign for? And because

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01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: to me, I think, uh, grow football focus ready to

1509
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: him out at the eleventh best linebacker this year? When

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01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: he's on the field, man, I think he's a difference

1511
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: maker and there's a lot of heart and soul, and

1512
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: I think he's our best linebacker. I know Tremaine Edmonds

1513
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl, but for all his size and athleticism, man,

1514
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 1: and he lets me down. And I see some guys

1515
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: on our some guys on our list right here like

1516
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: John Brown, m Croft didn't even touch the field, Murphy

1517
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: didn't even touch the field, Vernon Butler. Where what is

1518
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: his value when Starlettula comes back? Jeff Jefferson defensive tackle?

1519
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we have so much money to say to say.

1520
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: I was wondering your guys, um if you guys are like,

1521
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: love Matt Mlane as much as I do, and and

1522
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: what do you guys think his value is to our team?

1523
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 1: And I'm the open market. Yeah, I get it, Zach,

1524
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: And thanks for the call. We appreciate it. I would

1525
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: say Zach is leaning in this direction based on what

1526
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: he just said. He's saying he wants Milano back, but

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01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: he understands he might get priced out of Buffalo's ability

1528
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: to keep him. So then his next comment is what's

1529
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: the value of all these other guys that I think

1530
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: Zach would rather not have to keep Milano? And that's

1531
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: a conversation you have to have. But based on the

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01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: way Brandon Bean phrased it, it sounds as if they

1533
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 1: are not going to break the bank to keep Matt Milano.

1534
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: And I think part of the reason why is the

1535
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: restrictive cap. I think the other reason why is you

1536
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: have a linebacker in Tremaine Emmonds who I think they

1537
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: see as a cornerstone player who is going to get

1538
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: an extension a year from now at the very latest.

1539
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: And there's a lot that goes into this, not just

1540
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. One of the things that goes

1541
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: into is the fact that Tremaine rarely rarely misses a

1542
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: game Matt does. Yeah, Also, Milano's Milano's being projected and

1543
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking on spot tracks by ten to eleven million,

1544
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: three years, three nuts more, than that three years forty

1545
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: one and oh my god, dollars, you're talking about a

1546
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: third ten million dollar guy, fourteen million dollar guy for

1547
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: a three year deal. And he might get it. And

1548
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: in the list I've got to the top one hundred

1549
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: free agents, he's twenty five. He's a twenty fifth best

1550
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: free agent out there at any position. There's a very

1551
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: good chance he's part of the first wave of free agency.

1552
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: He may get signed by and think about it, he

1553
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: may get signed by a team like the Jets or

1554
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,759
Speaker 1: the Patriots or the Dolphin who's somebody who's been crushing

1555
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: for the last three years. He may get grabbed by

1556
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 1: them and paid a lot of money. But I wouldn't

1557
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: think that Patriots are gonna do that because they don't

1558
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 1: overpay for guys. And somebody's gonna overpay for that guy. Somebody.

1559
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: He's gonna get this number. He's gonna get this twelve

1560
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars a year number, I would think. And

1561
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: the Bills can't compete with that, and I think they

1562
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: don't see that position in their defense as a twelve

1563
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: million dollar a year position. Once they got past Milano's

1564
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: absence when he went down with a Peck. Once they

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01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: got past that and started calling the defense for what

1566
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: AJ Klein could give him, that defense got a lot

1567
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: better because Milano gave him a little something else, you

1568
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: get something better in other ways. And he's a better

1569
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: player than AJ Clin. But once they knew he was

1570
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: not going to be in there and they started calling

1571
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: the defense for the skill set of AJ Klein, Klein

1572
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: started playing a lot better and he wasn't near the

1573
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: athlete that Milano was. Well, So I think that they

1574
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 1: feel like they can get a guy in there that's

1575
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: an athlete like Milano and get the value they got

1576
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: from Milano att a lot better price, a lot better price. Yeah,

1577
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: And the other thing to content play it here too

1578
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,560
Speaker 1: is as much as you love Milano and what he

1579
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: brings to your roster, and the fact that there is

1580
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: no guarantee that if you have to get a replacement

1581
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: that he's going to be as good as Milano. I

1582
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 1: think that the prevailing thinking is this, you can get

1583
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: an athlete at six two, two hundred and thirty pounds

1584
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: who can run like a deer sideline to sideline and

1585
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 1: make plays at outside linebacker a lot easier than you

1586
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: can find a right tackle. You know, knowing Darryl Williams

1587
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: is a free agent or a number two cornerbacks starting

1588
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: every week. I'm not going to be a little Matt Milano.

1589
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm not either, because he's a great player. He is.

1590
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: But to replace his athleticism is you get this, Any

1591
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 1: team in the NFL can do that standard on their head.

1592
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: The athleticism of Matt Milano is not the issue. The instincts,

1593
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: instincts and what you know, all the other stuff is

1594
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: hard to replace. The athletic, the speed, the size, the

1595
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: all of that. There's there's two dozen guys in this

1596
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: draft that can do that at least um and and

1597
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: two dozen more that they're gonna be free agents. That

1598
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: the athleticism is a is a common denominator in the NFL.

1599
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: So it's it's all the other stuff he brings and

1600
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 1: that's what they're and that's the evaluation process that gives

1601
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: teams so many fits. That's going to be the hard

1602
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: thing to replace. Don't be able to find replace his

1603
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 1: size and speed, But the other set's the intangibles that

1604
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: are hard to get. Break time for us, Jerry and Lavonia,

1605
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,799
Speaker 1: hang tight, you're next after the break. When we return

1606
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: with more of your calls and your questions from the

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01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: obl fan mail bag here on One Bill's Live, presented

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01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

1609
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

1610
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: here on a Friday edition, and we're answering your questions

1611
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: as we do every Friday from the fan mail bag

1612
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: and on the phones at eight O three five fifty

1613
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 1: and waiting there for us is Jerry in Lavonia. Jerry,

1614
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on One Bill's Live. Hi, guys,

1615
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Sure. The reason I called

1616
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 1: my subject matter is that Oliver I remember when we

1617
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: drafted him. We're talking about what a great athlete you was,

1618
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: is speed and everything, and today I heard you Chris

1619
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: talk about, you know how he's been winning a lot

1620
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: more one on one type situations. Why don't the Bills

1621
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: ever tried to put him on the edge and just

1622
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: make a mint to maybe a pass rusher and see

1623
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: him in a situation where he has some space and

1624
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: maybe he has less all that congestion that you get

1625
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of the line, that he wouldn't have

1626
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: to deal with. What are your thoughts on that, guys. Yeah,

1627
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: it's tougher out there if you're not a long player,

1628
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: and Ed is not that. And the reason why is

1629
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: because a good number of offensive tackles in this league

1630
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: have somewhere between thirty four and thirty six inch arms,

1631
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: and they're going to get their hands on you before

1632
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: you get your hands on them, especially if you're someone

1633
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 1: of the statue of Ed Oliver. And once they have

1634
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: their hands on you, they can control what happens next

1635
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: very effectively. Excuse me, Chris, Is Jerry Hues that much

1636
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: than uh? Uh, that's a good question. It's an aid question. Yeah,

1637
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: you're right, and uh And I don't have a problem

1638
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: with him trying it. And I'm I don't know if

1639
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: they've had that conversation or not, but I'm with you.

1640
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm certainly willing to give Ed Oliver every opportunity

1641
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: to try whatever will work for him. I mean, you've

1642
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: got you've invested a lot of you know, a real

1643
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 1: draft asset in him in a high pick in the

1644
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: first round. You'd like to see him have every chance

1645
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: to be successful. And if it means moving him around

1646
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, I would be more than happy to

1647
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: give that a shot. I can't tell you whether they

1648
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: do that or not. I would think probably at some

1649
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 1: point they've tried that and either he doesn't like it,

1650
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: or they didn't like it, or he wasn't good at

1651
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: it or whatever. For whatever reason, we don't see it

1652
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: too much in games, So maybe that's an option. But

1653
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm I'm with you if if it helps

1654
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: him be successful, give him a chance to try it.

1655
01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 1: I mean, what the heck right, right exactly? You made

1656
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: a bit, you made a big investment in him. I

1657
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: just think that's the prevailing My guess is that's the

1658
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: prevailing wisdom on that um. In terms of size between

1659
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: him and Jerry hughes Um, you know, Ed's probably got

1660
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 1: about thirty maybe forty pounds on Jerry. So the quickness

1661
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 1: off the edge is something that is probably harder for

1662
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: Ed to manufacture out there. It's a different It looks similar,

1663
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: but it's a different skill set. And you know when

1664
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 1: it's different. And when you're firing off from the interior,

1665
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: unless you're looping on a stunt or a twist or something,

1666
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: it's largely straight ahead explosion. Win with your hands. Get

1667
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, where a lot of times. You know,

1668
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: on the outside you got to bend that edge, dip

1669
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 1: the shoulder. You know, you're running at a forty five

1670
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: degree angle at speed with a three hundred pound man

1671
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: trying to get his arm and his hands out on you. Um,

1672
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: it's a different way to win out there, and Ed

1673
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: may not feel comfortable doing it. He might have told

1674
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: him that as well. They might have said, listen, how

1675
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: would you feel about playing on the edge against this

1676
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: team this week? That kind of thing. Maybe he said,

1677
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not very good at it, or

1678
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: maybe he's tried it in practice. I'm sure he has

1679
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,759
Speaker 1: tried it in practice and just doesn't get it, doesn't

1680
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: want to take the time to learn it. Although you know,

1681
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 1: as a pros with a you know, this growth mindset

1682
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott preaches, maybe would be a good thing

1683
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: for him to, you know, start dabbling in. But I'm

1684
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: with you, he's got the explosion. He's quick enough and

1685
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: and like you know, like Brown, he said, he's not long,

1686
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: so he's not going to outreach a tackle. But I

1687
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: have no problem giving him a shot at it if

1688
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: he wants, but he's gonna have to work at it.

1689
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: To make it happen because it is a different skill set.

1690
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: In the mail bag from Meg, what do you think

1691
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: about the rule that when an offense fumbles out of

1692
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: bounds in the end zone it's a touchback that happened

1693
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: to the Browns in the playoffs. Don't you think it

1694
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 1: is too pun Help me make it makes sense. I

1695
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: actually responded to Meg on Twitter yesterday because I agree

1696
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: with her one hundred percent. I think it is too punitive.

1697
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 1: So basically the scenario she's talking about, an offense tries

1698
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 1: to score, a player reaches, you know, to break the

1699
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: plane of the goal line with the football, loses the football,

1700
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: and it gets fumbled through the end zone out of bounds,

1701
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 1: either over the sideline or the end line, and the

1702
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: rule is it goes as a touchback and the other

1703
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: team has possession at their own twenty I would this

1704
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: would be my argument in terms of how you should

1705
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: rule a play like that going forward. I think the

1706
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: fair thing to do is if the ball comes out

1707
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: and it's fumbled through the end zone and the other

1708
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 1: team can't effectively gain possession, I would give the ball

1709
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: back to the to the offense at the twenty yard line.

1710
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: Going in what do you think about that? Instead of

1711
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: a touchback, down and distance whatever it was, So what

1712
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: if they were at the replay the down one yard

1713
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: going down, one yard line going in, they go way

1714
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: back to the twenty. Yeah, you lost the ball. There's

1715
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: gotta be some repercussion for losing the ball, but not

1716
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: a loss of possession. So if it's third and whatever,

1717
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: then it goes back and it's it's third and goal

1718
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 1: of the one. You fumble the ball the goal line,

1719
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: it goes out of bounds, it's third and goal to twenty.

1720
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 1: Be glad you still have the ball. What do you

1721
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 1: think because I'm not taking you out of a chance

1722
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: to score points, because even if you don't convert on

1723
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 1: third and goal from the twenty, you can still kick

1724
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: a field goal, right, So you haven't had the point

1725
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 1: scoring opportunity completely taken off the ball thirty seven yard

1726
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 1: field goal. I get that. I don't have a problem

1727
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 1: with it. I think, think, I think, and I'm using

1728
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: my I don't know how that because you think. I

1729
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 1: feel like this rule evolved to what it is, you know,

1730
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: for a reason, right, probably exactly That's what I'm asking you. Listen,

1731
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: when the guys were running in they didn't have face

1732
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: masks and they barely will. Well, that's why I like

1733
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line, because nobody is going to forcibly

1734
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: fumble the ball through the end zone on purpose for

1735
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: any kind of benefit if the if the result, and

1736
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: they're certainly not doing it now, if the result is whatever.

1737
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: This isn't tied to fumble Rooski at all. No, it

1738
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: isn't um just so people know. But I think that's

1739
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: that's enough of a deterrent to not want to do it.

1740
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: And it's not a guillotine like punishment for fumbling it

1741
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: through the end zone where the other team can't recover

1742
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 1: it in time, although it does give the defense you

1743
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:34,560
Speaker 1: are searching for unintended consequences. You're to get out of

1744
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: a bad spot right like it always does. I get

1745
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: coughing the ball up as always that, but to have

1746
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: him cough that ball up, because but you think about it,

1747
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: if they cough it up and you recovered it in

1748
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: the end zone and you're down, what happens to the

1749
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: defense if the defense recovers a fumble in the end

1750
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: zone by the offense going in, Wait, who's got who's

1751
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: getting the ball? Offense going in fumbles it into the

1752
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 1: endzone instead of going out of the enzone, defensive recovers

1753
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 1: it in the end zone. What happens, Well, they get

1754
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: the touch back too, they take a knee, right, it

1755
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: is it a safety? Um? Well, no, it only is

1756
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: if they established themselves as a runner, right, and they

1757
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 1: get taken down and tack right first and ten of

1758
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: the twenty. So you're I kind of like my idea.

1759
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 1: You may not like it, but I kind of think.

1760
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: I think it's a punishment for fumbling the ball, but

1761
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: you really didn't lose possession because anywhere else on the

1762
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 1: field you lose a fumble out of bounds, it's your

1763
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 1: ball still, right, you know what I mean. But to

1764
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: the point where you fumbled it, it does. But here

1765
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: it could arguably travel ten yards before going out of

1766
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: bounds if it goes over the end line. So to me,

1767
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 1: you're pretty damn lucky that you didn't lose the ball.

1768
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: But I don't want to give it to the other

1769
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: team either, because they didn't recover it after traveling ten yards.

1770
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: You jump on the ball, you know what I mean?

1771
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 1: So I kind of think, Okay, what's a happy medium there?

1772
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 1: Stick it back at the twenty same down and distance.

1773
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: See if you can score it from there because you

1774
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: you're lucky you still have the ball after losing it

1775
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 1: at the most important part of the field. I don't know.

1776
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: I think that's relatively it seems fair on either Why

1777
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 1: it seems unfair on both both spectrums. On you know,

1778
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: where you fumble it out of the end zone, it's

1779
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: you lose the ball, um not only Yeah, the other

1780
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 1: team gets it, they get spotted twenty yards. I would

1781
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: say that. I would say this, if you fumble it

1782
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 1: out of the end zone, the other team gets the

1783
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: ball automatically. If you fumble it out of the zone

1784
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 1: at the spot where you fumbled it, Oh, still like

1785
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 1: at their own one yard line. If the if it

1786
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: goes out of your own, if they fumble it out

1787
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: of your end zone, that's like fumbling it to you

1788
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: and you get it where they fumbled it. Yeah, I

1789
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 1: could see that. I don't I don't think. I don't

1790
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: hate that. I don't hate it, um, But I just

1791
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: know that this league has slanted towards offense. So I figured, well,

1792
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: they might like that one, well maybe the other one.

1793
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 1: It's more fun to watch get her out there. That's

1794
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: what I would do. I would give the I would

1795
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: give it a turn. You know, fumbling in an out

1796
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,839
Speaker 1: of bounce out of the end zone is more egregious

1797
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 1: than sideline. So I would say, give the other team

1798
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 1: the ball as if they recovered. So the back of

1799
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: the end zone is a defender, yeah, like it always is,

1800
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 1: and then give them the ball where you give me.

1801
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: Interesting to see if that one ever changes. It's got

1802
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 1: to get some momentum at some point break time for us.

1803
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: When we come back. Our colleague Maddie glab will join

1804
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: us and we'll catch up with her when we return.

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01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collid to help,

1806
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has

1807
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: been all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was

1808
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role leader for you, Steve a blimp.

1809
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: We're not even in the scredit fear of normalcy, never normal,

1810
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,759
Speaker 1: but usually entertaining. It's One Bills Live Here on a Friday,

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01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and as promised, joining

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01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: us in the third hour of the program is the

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01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 1: one the only Maddie glab Our colleague from Buffalo bills

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01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: dot Com and elsewhere on the Bills media platforms. Maddie,

1815
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: how are we doing here on this prekend? Friday? Heard

1816
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 1: that we're doing good here? Friday is here. I'm happy

1817
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 1: to have weekends back now that we're in the NFL offseason.

1818
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: So looking forward to a Saturday and Sunday, gonna go

1819
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 1: hit some golf balls to being ready? Have you for

1820
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 1: some warmer weather? Have you heard that phrase prekinned like weekend?

1821
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Except pre ken No? I have? Have you? Have you?

1822
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 1: It's all not until today. It's a hip thing, you know.

1823
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to trying to keep up with my teenage

1824
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 1: kids here. Have you heard of freak end? Yeah? Steve

1825
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: thought I said at the beginning of the show. I said,

1826
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of weekend you're having, Steve,

1827
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: but it's apparently different than mine, right even during a pandemic.

1828
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of that. That was

1829
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 1: a little intimidated mock Draft watch, Maddie. You're kind of

1830
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 1: keeping everybody up to speed on what the draft nicks,

1831
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: the pundits, the national reporters are saying about who's picking

1832
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: who and where, and you got all this quarterback gobbledegook

1833
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: at the top of the first round, and then there'll

1834
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 1: be the rest of us waiting for the clock to

1835
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: strike midnight and still waiting for the Bills pick at thirty,

1836
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: provided it stays there. But there is a wide variety

1837
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: now of picks that are kind of coming down the

1838
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: pike here for the Bills at thirty. Huh. Yeah. We've

1839
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: tracked about thirty two mock drafts so far, is the

1840
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 1: number that we've done. We've released three of our mock

1841
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 1: draft watches. Many more to come, of course, and it's

1842
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 1: just going to ramp up after free agency. So, like

1843
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: I said the last time I was on right now,

1844
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like throwing spaghetti at a wall

1845
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 1: and see if it's seeing if it sticks, because all

1846
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: of these people who are doing these mock drafts, which

1847
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: everybody does them in the off season, are picking the

1848
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 1: Bills to choose a variety of different positions. So out

1849
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,799
Speaker 1: of the thirty two, we have some trends, some early trends.

1850
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: We'll see if these stick after free agencies. So seven

1851
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: of the thirty two have us drafting A corner makes sense, right,

1852
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: that could happen. Six have us drafting and linebacker also

1853
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 1: makes sense. If Matt Milano is not going to be

1854
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 1: on the team next year. Six have us drafting and

1855
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 1: offensive tackle makes sense also depending on what happens with

1856
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: Daryl Williams, and five have us drafting a running back,

1857
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: which is a little bit of a shock. Didn't think

1858
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 1: I would see a running back mocked to us five

1859
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 1: different times, let alone. The most popular names so far

1860
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: is na J. Harris. Four people have mocked him to

1861
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, so he is the most popular name

1862
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: so far out of the thirty two that we have drafted.

1863
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: The next few that have been popular have only been

1864
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,799
Speaker 1: mocked to us a couple of times. So Nick Bolton,

1865
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 1: a linebacker out of Missouri, has been mocked to the

1866
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 1: Bills three times. Another linebacker, Jeremiah Owusu Coromoa, has been

1867
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 1: mocked to us three times as well, and then an

1868
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Oklahoma State, Tevin Jenkins, has also

1869
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: been selected by mock draft analysts going to the Bills

1870
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 1: three different times. So I thought I'd kind of do

1871
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: a deep dive on three of those names. I'm not

1872
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: going to look at the running back because I'm not

1873
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: convinced that we're running back with our number thirty pick

1874
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 1: I think there's some other positions that deserve some love. First.

1875
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys would agree with that.

1876
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 1: Steve will be one hundred and fifty percent in your

1877
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 1: wheelhouse in that language, because he's frothing at the mouth,

1878
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 1: ready to explain again why running back is not happening

1879
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 1: and pick thirty, go Steve, No, it's not gonna happen

1880
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 1: at pick thirty. I'll just I don't have to explain it.

1881
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Everybody knows it would be deemed a luxury there. Right,

1882
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: you got four offensive line you picked a running back

1883
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: in the last two drafts at third in the third round,

1884
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 1: you've got four offensive linemen. They're gonna change out or

1885
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 1: you had resign. It starts up front, not in the

1886
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 1: running back. So yeah, Naji Harris, great, awesome. No, not

1887
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 1: unless they have their offensive line completely fixed by then.

1888
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that. And as I've been listening

1889
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: and watching and reading, as I'm sure you guys have two,

1890
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 1: it sounds like around the time that we're going to

1891
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: pick at number thirty, there should be a good amount

1892
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:59,719
Speaker 1: of linebackers and offensive tackles available to take this first round.

1893
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 1: And this draft overall is going to be deep with

1894
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 1: linebackers and offensive tackles. Again, offensive tackles, we all know

1895
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 1: they can start going off the board like that and

1896
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 1: that could change things. It kind of just takes one

1897
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: team to start that crescendo of everyone taking offensive tackles

1898
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: off the board. But Tevin Jenkins I've seen being mocked

1899
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 1: to us at number thirty or going as early as

1900
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 1: number twenty two different teams. So we'll see how the

1901
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 1: offensive tackles go. But I'll start off with Tevin Jenkins.

1902
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 1: So he is six six guys, He's three hundred and

1903
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 1: twenty pounds. He has experience at right guard, left tackle,

1904
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 1: and right tackle. Most of his experience comes from right tackle.

1905
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,679
Speaker 1: He knows how to play in that air raid offense

1906
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 1: because that's what Oklahoma State did. He is a good

1907
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: run blocker as well. He hasn't played. He didn't play

1908
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: the full season last year. He played the first eight

1909
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: games and sat out the rest because of lower back issues.

1910
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 1: So that's something that's a little h if. He has

1911
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: an injury history more than those lower back issues that

1912
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: he had. He's a fifth year senior, so this guy

1913
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: has experience. One thing that I really like about him

1914
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: from watching some of his tape is that he does

1915
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: not give up. This is an offensive lineman that plays

1916
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: through the whistle. He is going to be someone that

1917
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,799
Speaker 1: you look on the field and he is still moving

1918
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: defenders down the field after the play is over. He's

1919
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: somebody who has a lot of power. I mean, he's

1920
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 1: got three hundred and twenty pounds on him, but also

1921
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 1: looks like he can move. He's a space creator and

1922
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: he can also get into the second level, which is

1923
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: what you want out of an offensive tackle. A couple

1924
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: of articles that I've read have said that they see

1925
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: him being more of a guard in the NFL rather

1926
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 1: than a tackle, And if you're going to make him

1927
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 1: a tackle in the NFL, he might not necessarily be

1928
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 1: someone who can start right away and make a big impact.

1929
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 1: So that's what I've seen from Tevin Jenkins from Oklahoma State.

1930
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,719
Speaker 1: What do you guys think, Yeah, I mean, I've watched

1931
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: him tape on him and you're right, blocks people completely

1932
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 1: out of the camera frame on film, like over the side,

1933
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 1: Like remember in the blind Side when Michael or blocks

1934
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: the kid all the way down the field and over

1935
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: the fence and pass the track, and he needed to

1936
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: get on the bus well, he doesn't take a guy

1937
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: that far, but he does not guys completely out of

1938
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: the camera shot of the game tape. He can be

1939
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: that violent. But um, I like the experience too. Yeah,

1940
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 1: they'll do all the medical and everything the lower back

1941
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: issues that Maddy mentioned, But I think this is a

1942
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: right tackle candidate. Um. Obviously the Bills already have their

1943
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 1: left tackle. The guard tackle things always interesting to me

1944
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: because that's just different strokes for different folks. They said

1945
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: the same thing about Cody Ford guard. He's a tackle,

1946
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 1: he's a guard, he's a tackle. Even when the Bills

1947
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 1: drafted Cordy Glenn out of Georgia back in twenty eleven,

1948
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: he said, oh, he can only play guard. He played

1949
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: left tackle here for like four years, and he's playing

1950
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 1: left tackle in Cincinnati right So you know, there's there's

1951
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: different viewpoints on that and it'll probably continue with him

1952
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: this year. The only other position besides linebacker and offensive

1953
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: line for the Bills that I think will be of

1954
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 1: consideration at thirty is corner. I think there's a chance

1955
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: that a few could trickle down there to thirty, and

1956
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 1: I'm be on, I'd be fine if they took a

1957
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: corner at thirty because I think it's time to make

1958
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 1: an investment at that position, if not in the first round,

1959
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,680
Speaker 1: somewhere on day two. I think they got to get

1960
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: a guy that's really got a premier skill set that

1961
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 1: can really push for the starting job opposite Trudavious. But

1962
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,799
Speaker 1: we'll see what trickles down to them. Because you're right, Maddie,

1963
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: that run on a position group can happen, and when

1964
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 1: you're sitting there at thirty, it's gonna be painful just

1965
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 1: sitting there watching him tick off the board. So you

1966
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 1: wonder if that prompts Brandon to say, I can't wait anymore.

1967
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: I gotta get up there and like moving up four

1968
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: or five spots or something. Do you think Asante Samuel

1969
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 1: Junior will be there at thirty for the Bills the

1970
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: corner round of Florida. He's someone I've that I've seen

1971
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 1: mocked to us a couple of times, but I also believe,

1972
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,919
Speaker 1: and I could be wrong on this, but just scrolling

1973
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 1: through all these mocked drafts, I think he's been someone

1974
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: who's been mocked a lot earlier as well. He's been

1975
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: someone who's fallen as low as number thirty, but also

1976
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 1: gone earlier in the twenties. Yeah, he's well, he's he

1977
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,759
Speaker 1: had thirty forced in completions over his career. The guys

1978
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 1: around the corners, he's an athlete that sets him above

1979
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 1: athletes at that level. Um, he could play the slot.

1980
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 1: A lot of people think the guy can really is

1981
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 1: going to be a player at the NFL level for

1982
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 1: a long time. And I'm you know, I like guys

1983
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: who make plays because you know, Sante Samuel got the

1984
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:46,560
Speaker 1: ball thrown at him once in a while and he

1985
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: was up to it. Really a good cover corner and

1986
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: can do that. He's five tens, so he's got a

1987
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: little bit of size and size enough. Yeah, jac Horns

1988
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: another guy that's commonly mocked in that area. But I

1989
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 1: don't think he gets down to I think he goes

1990
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 1: somewhere between fifteen and twenty somewhere in there. Maybe gets

1991
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 1: to like twenty two, twenty four, But he's not getting

1992
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:11,560
Speaker 1: the thirty. And the reason these guys are up this

1993
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:13,640
Speaker 1: high in the draft, that are getting mocked in the

1994
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: mid first round is their athleticism. And we've been talking

1995
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: about it all day, right, Maddie. I mean that when

1996
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 1: you bring these guys in, if they're you're picking them

1997
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 1: that high in the draft. They're gonna be fast and

1998
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 1: athletic like a Tredavious White. They're gonna be fast and

1999
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,560
Speaker 1: athletic like all the other corners that get you know,

2000
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 1: Patrick Peters, those kind of guys. They're gonna be guys

2001
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: that are special on the field on their feet. So

2002
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 1: that's if you can get any of those guys at thirty,

2003
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 1: particularly one who is athleticism had him going higher and

2004
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: his production got higher. For those guys to go high,

2005
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 1: not only they have this athleticism, they get their Pro day,

2006
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 1: they run fast, they lift, they lift, they jump, They're

2007
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: doing all this athletic stuff. But when they watch film,

2008
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 1: they can play football. That's how they get up high

2009
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 1: in the draft. And I think more teams on defense

2010
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: or starting it like versatility two, depending on what your

2011
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: base defenses, depending on how you want to rotate players around.

2012
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 1: But let me show you guys a versatile linebacker that

2013
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: has been mocked to the Bills three times with Jeremiah

2014
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 1: Owusu Koramora. He's from Notre Dame. I watched some tape

2015
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 1: on him this morning. Oh my gosh, this dude is athletic.

2016
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 1: He's fast. He's six two two sixteen. He can also

2017
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 1: play safety. Okay, this guy played nickel some safety. He

2018
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 1: can rush the passer. This is a defender who can

2019
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: pretty much play all over the field in more times

2020
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 1: than not. He was running with tight ends, receivers, anybody

2021
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:42,839
Speaker 1: who would be in the passing game. He was covering

2022
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: types of guys like that. His ideal place is a

2023
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 1: base four three. He can move to a box safety.

2024
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: He's a powerful player. He looks super quick in his

2025
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 1: twitches and his mobility, his speed off the line of scrimmage.

2026
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: He makes play is that people make noise after. As

2027
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,600
Speaker 1: I was watching some of his clips on YouTube, he

2028
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 1: would have these big plays and you were dear who

2029
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 1: like everybody would be watching this guy and reacting to

2030
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 1: his big playability, which I think he gives you a

2031
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 1: lot of. So I think this is someone who you

2032
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 1: talk about Matt Milano, and if Matt Milano was not

2033
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 1: on the team, Matt Milano is a very versatile linebacker.

2034
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 1: This is a very versatile linebacker that we're watching tape

2035
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 1: of right now that can run with titans, that can

2036
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 1: run with wide receivers, but can also be a run

2037
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 1: stuffer when you need him to be one. He is

2038
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 1: more of your will linebacker. I'm going to show you

2039
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:42,879
Speaker 1: another linebacker that played a lot of mic linebacker in college.

2040
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,639
Speaker 1: So I kind of you know, you watch him tape

2041
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 1: on a guy and you're like, oh, this is this

2042
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: guy's great. That's kind of how I feel about Jeremiah

2043
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 1: sue Cormora and the stats he was able to put up.

2044
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 1: He had eight and a half sacks in his junior season,

2045
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 1: which is in fredible for a linebacker. Also, Notre Dame,

2046
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: you think the teams that they're playing against, they're in

2047
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty good conference, have some opponents that they

2048
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: play against that are big Power five conference teams. So

2049
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 1: that was my take on Jeremiah Osue Cormwara, Chris Steve,

2050
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: Have you guys watched that tape on this guy? Am?

2051
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 1: I am? I insane for already loving what what I've seen.

2052
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 1: He clearly flashes on tape. You notice him immediately. He's

2053
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: always around the ball. It's funny because I actually we

2054
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 1: had Tony Dungee on the show last Friday, the Hall

2055
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 1: of Fame coach, and I knew he had done some

2056
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame games with Mike Terrico this year. So they

2057
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 1: did the Notre Dame Clemson game. Now you're going against

2058
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: some of the best athletes in the country on the

2059
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 1: college football field, and he stuck out in that game.

2060
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 1: He was making plays in that game. So I asked

2061
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:55,719
Speaker 1: coach Dungee about him, and yeah, he was raving about

2062
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 1: him too. I said, would you go so far as

2063
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 1: to compare him to the Simmons kid from Clemson last

2064
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: year who went fourth overall to the Cardinals Issa Simmons. Yeah,

2065
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm not going to go that far.

2066
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 1: He's not quite that athlete, but he's really good. And

2067
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: I just watched him play probably two or three games

2068
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 1: worth of tape, and I would say this, if you're

2069
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: looking for someone to replace Matt Milano in terms of

2070
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: a versatility standpoint, he can do that day one. He

2071
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: can step in and fill that role. The problem is,

2072
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way in hell this guy's

2073
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 1: getting thirty. Is this guy's a top twenty pick. He's

2074
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 1: a top twenty pick. I'd be shocked if he gets

2075
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: past pick twenty. Yeah. The only thing I've got on

2076
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: him is, yeah, he's a great athlete. He's all of that.

2077
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he's big enough to take

2078
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 1: Milano's spot two sixteen. Yeah, he's longer, and I think

2079
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: he plays bigger than his size, But I understand what

2080
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah and he's uh, doesn't mean he's not.

2081
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 1: And plus I yeah, I have a hard time seeing

2082
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 1: him down in the box like Milana was, working up

2083
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,719
Speaker 1: inside of guards and all of that, you know, rushing

2084
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: the passer, taking those guys on. Physically, I know that

2085
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: the league is going towards lighter, faster, more athletic linebackers.

2086
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: I think he might be too much of an exaggeration

2087
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: for that. Athletically, he's all there, but he's not cornerback

2088
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 1: fast and he's more you know what he minds me

2089
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 1: of who I'm thinking about is Jamal Adams, that kind

2090
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: of athlete, great physical player, great physical player, but really

2091
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: and his Corey's a safety, not a linebacker. But that's

2092
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 1: how That's how Notre Dame used him in Man oh Man?

2093
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 1: Could he play? So I'm I like him, but I

2094
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I want more of a guy who is

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01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 1: a pure cover guy. I am not a linebacker, though,

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01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess not forget Matt Milano is a

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01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: former safety in college. Yeah, I forget that grew the

2098
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 1: position though, right like me be in Devil's Advocate over here.

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01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. All right, Well, Steve, if you

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01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: want someone that's more of your cookie cutter linebacker, maybe

2101
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: not necessarily as as versatile, or someone who can, you know,

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Speaker 1: play safety and linebacker, let me tell you about Nick

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01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 1: Bolton from Missouri. He's six feet he's got two hundred

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01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 1: thirty two pounds on him, so he's got a little

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01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: bit more weight to him, and I think packs a

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01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: little bit more in his punch as a linebacker. And

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01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 1: this is someone, as I'm watching tape on this guy,

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01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: he has the perfect body to play linebacker. He's someone

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01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 1: who looks like he can start and make a difference

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01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 1: right away at that position. He looks like a super

2111
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: confident player. This is someone who eats lanes. This is

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01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 1: your run stopping linebacker. He can drop into the coverage.

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01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 1: But a lot of his tape that you watch on him,

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01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: he's he's in lanes, he's trusting his instincts, he's taking

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01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 1: good angles to tap goals. He's a textbook tackler. He

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01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 1: can drop into coverage and some of the highlights that

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01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 1: I watched showed that he could do that when he

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01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: needs to. But it looks like he's your guy who's

2119
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 1: in the box, who's stopping running backs, who's putting his

2120
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 1: hands up in the passing lanes and batting some balls down.

2121
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 1: But he looks like a very confident player that isn't

2122
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 1: afraid to commit when he sees something right away. So

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01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: that's Nick Bolton. He could also go earlier too. I

2124
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: think this is a very talented linebacker who made an

2125
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 1: impact in the SEC. You talk about big conferences and

2126
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 1: playing against some great teams. Missouri wasn't necessarily the best

2127
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 1: team and hasn't been in the SEC since they really

2128
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 1: got into the SEC when I was in college. But

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01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 1: this is someone who was able to make some big

2130
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: plays against teams like Alabama, your other big name SEC teams. So,

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01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 1: Chris Steve, have you guys watched any film on this

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01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: guy yet? What are your thoughts. I've seen some of him,

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01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 1: not as much, but I think it's the coverage question

2134
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 1: marks with him that's that. I don't think there's enough

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01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 1: tape of him in coverage that gives them a comfort

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01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 1: level that he's a complete linebacker. I still think the

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01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: jury's out on that. I don't think there's any question

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01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 1: about his run game instincts and shooting gaps and stuff

2139
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: like that. But when it comes to his coverage ability,

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01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of college scouts are left wanting

2141
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 1: to see more because he wasn't asked to do enough

2142
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 1: of it where they feel they have a strong handle

2143
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 1: on what he can and can't do at the NFL level. Yeah, Yeah,

2144
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: he's more You're right, Maddie. That guy's a linebacker, and

2145
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: you know with the quintessential question marks about a linement.

2146
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 1: Can he play in space? I love how he attacks

2147
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I love how he attacks his assignments,

2148
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 1: getting him to be out in space and you see

2149
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: there he picks one off. But getting him out in

2150
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: space and or trailing a tight end going down the

2151
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 1: field in coverage, that's what you don't see enough of it.

2152
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,600
Speaker 1: Another going to do that very much in college, So

2153
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: you know he may have it in him to do

2154
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 1: it very well. Yeah, I'm not saying he can't do it.

2155
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 1: They just haven't seen enough of it to know if

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01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 1: he can't, Right, But I like this guy, this type

2157
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 1: of player. Nick Bolton and He's exactly the kind of

2158
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 1: guy you and I've been talking about if you're gonna

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01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 1: replace Matt Milano. There's a guy who's a better athlete

2160
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 1: than Milano is. But does he have those instincts and

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01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: can he play in space? Is he gonna like rise

2162
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 1: up and make plays with his head before the play

2163
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 1: happens kind of thing. But that guy is more the

2164
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: type of guy I would be looking at in the

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01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 1: draft more than Ausu Corromora Coromoa. So that's give me

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01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: him instead of Coromoa. Ok. Yeah, And I was more

2167
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 1: likely to be that. I was able to watch of

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01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton. When he did drop in the coverage, it

2169
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 1: looked like he was sometimes a step or two behind

2170
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 1: the receiver or the tight end that he was covering.

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01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: So the speed question of dropping in the coverage does

2172
01:58:57,920 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: he have it? Does he not have it? In the

2173
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 1: highlight tapes that I watched, there were not a lot

2174
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 1: of clips of him dropping in the coverage and being

2175
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: on time with a target. He was reaching at a

2176
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: lot of the times when he was breaking up passes.

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01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 1: Even in the highlights we were just watching, He's trying

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01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 1: to catch up, you know, the little underthrown ball he'll

2179
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: batter away looks good, but you know he was just

2180
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 1: a little bit trying to catch up to the guy.

2181
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 1: And you're right, that's that's something you got to do

2182
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 1: well if you're going to play at the next level.

2183
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 1: I think in the scheme that the Bills are looking at.

2184
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, he's a kind of that give me

2185
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 1: that guy who you know. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

2186
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 1: And then you've got something for us, Maddie, a little

2187
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:42,520
Speaker 1: quiz of sorts. I guess yes, we will transition into

2188
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 1: I know you guys love playing guests the stat It's

2189
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: the off season, so it's time to play games like this.

2190
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 1: We've got a kind of draft esque guests the stats.

2191
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 1: So we've got five of them. We can see if

2192
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 1: we can get through all five or just a couple.

2193
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 1: There's some Bills ones in here and just some overall

2194
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 1: NFL draft questions. So number one, how many Bill's first

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02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 1: round picks are Hall of famers? Is it A four,

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02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: B five or C six? How many Bills first round

2197
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 1: picks are Hall of famers? Bruce Smith is one, Jim

2198
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: Kelly is two. Um, let's think of the other Hall

2199
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 1: of famers. O. J. Simpson is three. There you go,

2200
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 1: Billy Shaw. Billy Shaw was her first round pick. AFL

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Speaker 1: Billy Shaw. Well, no, we're not we're not doing names.

2202
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: We're doing how many totals? Four or five or six?

2203
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,560
Speaker 1: Pay attention or five or six? You guys have three

2204
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 1: right now? Three? Right now? Was Billy Shaw a first

2205
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: round pick? I'm trying. I'm trying to remember. I don't

2206
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:48,360
Speaker 1: know if he was. That's three. Let's think who else

2207
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 1: is in the well, let's think of all the Hall

2208
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 1: of famers. Andre is not a first round James Lofton

2209
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 1: was her first round pick? Yeah, by the Pack. Okay,

2210
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,640
Speaker 1: so that's four. Right, So that's four. Um, if they

2211
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,520
Speaker 1: gotta be Bills, Oh gonna be drafted by the Crumbuns,

2212
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:04,520
Speaker 1: all right, yeah right, drafted by the Bills. So we've

2213
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 1: got three. We got Bruce, oj and Jim. Who are

2214
02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 1: the other Hall of famers for the Bills. It's mister Wilson,

2215
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 1: It's James Lofton, but he wasn't was a fourth rounder,

2216
02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 1: was a second rounder? So no, um, so then you

2217
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:29,720
Speaker 1: have Billy Shaw, right, um, that's four. So now it's

2218
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: a question of whether Billy Shaw was a first rounder

2219
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: or not. I say four. We'll say let's say four

2220
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:43,360
Speaker 1: a four, and we don't know if Billy, you guys

2221
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 1: are correct, it is four. So you got the four, right?

2222
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 1: Billy Shaw was a second rounder and so was Thart. Yeah, yeah,

2223
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 1: all right. We were unsure on Shaw. That was the

2224
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,040
Speaker 1: only one. We didn't know where he got drafted. All right,

2225
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 1: we're one for one. Pretty good, pretty good? All right?

2226
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 1: Number two? What team helped create the NFL draft? What

2227
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 1: was it the Lions, the Eagles, or the Bears. What

2228
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 1: team helped create the idea for an NFL draft? Okay,

2229
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,520
Speaker 1: so the Lions, the Eagles, are the Bears? Think about

2230
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:15,480
Speaker 1: old teams. I want to say it's the Eagles, Steve.

2231
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:17,840
Speaker 1: And the only reason I want to say that is

2232
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 1: because wasn't the first commissioner, Bert Bell, And the Commissioner's

2233
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 1: office was in Philadelphia back in the day before it

2234
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 1: was in New I was thinking, I was thinking myself,

2235
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 1: that would be Chicago because of Papa Bear Hollis and

2236
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: him and back in the twenty when he was there

2237
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: from the very cold being it could be you know

2238
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, it could be So I don't think

2239
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 1: it's Detroit. I was thinking Philly too, When she said it,

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02:02:42,680 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking, oh, yeah, I think that's right because

2241
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 1: it's because I want to rule out I want to

2242
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 1: go process of elimination. I want to rule out Detroit.

2243
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 1: But I think yes, because of the history that you're talking,

2244
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:56,480
Speaker 1: do you want to go Philly? I'd get Philly because

2245
02:02:56,560 --> 02:03:00,120
Speaker 1: I think you're right the Burt Bell thing and the

2246
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:03,800
Speaker 1: offices were in Philadelphia or like with NFL films and

2247
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,680
Speaker 1: all that. So we're all right, we're gonna say Eagles, Eagles. Yes,

2248
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 1: right again. You guys should buy some lottery tickets after

2249
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:17,080
Speaker 1: work today. That was good two for two, so you're correct. Chris.

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Speaker 1: The team owner, Burt Bell, he had some emphasis on this.

2251
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:24,880
Speaker 1: The reason why he did was the Eagles were trash

2252
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 1: and so he was tired of the team losing so much.

2253
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 1: So he had an idea, why don't we draft some

2254
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 1: college players and the teams would pick in reverse order

2255
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 1: of the finish from the year before, So your last

2256
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 1: place team is picking first. So who had that idea?

2257
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: Let's see if we can sweep this three all? Right?

2258
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 1: Time for one more quickly? How many quarterbacks have the

2259
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: Bills drafted in the second round? Is it two, four

2260
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 1: or five? How many quarterbacks have the Bills drafted in

2261
02:03:59,080 --> 02:04:01,840
Speaker 1: the second round? At Kofler was taken in the second

2262
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 1: round in like nineteen eighty two, I want to say,

2263
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: and he was a second round one. That's the only

2264
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 1: name that is sticking out to me. In the second round.

2265
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: Our choices are two? What two? Three? Or four? Five?

2266
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:19,400
Speaker 1: It's not five? Can't be five, kenn it Um, you

2267
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:21,880
Speaker 1: got me, man. We're thinking of the AFL drafts too.

2268
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna kill us here. There's got to be

2269
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 1: another one in he was? No, he was? He was

2270
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 1: third round, wasn't he? I don't know. I think he was.

2271
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he was a third round pick.

2272
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 1: I think it's the second round over over sixty five years. Two. Yeah,

2273
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 1: that seems low, doesn't it. Um? There aren't any in

2274
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 1: the modern era that I can think of. I'm trying

2275
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 1: to think off the top of my head here, and

2276
02:04:48,160 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 1: because a lot of them have been Frank was a

2277
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 1: third rounder. Yeah, Um, so that's a no there. Yeah,

2278
02:04:56,240 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean it might be two. Let's just say two two, Okay,

2279
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:10,280
Speaker 1: you're saying too. Yeah, actually four Dennis Shaw, Gen Bradley,

2280
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: Matt Coefler and Todd Collins. Oh I forgot Todd Collins.

2281
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was awful. We should not have

2282
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,400
Speaker 1: forgotten him. All right, we gotta take a break, Maddie.

2283
02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 1: We are at a time we went over, but it

2284
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 1: was good spending some time where you have a good weekend.

2285
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 1: All right, you guys too happy Friday. All right, that's

2286
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 1: Maddie glab joining us. We have to break. We'll be

2287
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:33,600
Speaker 1: back and lament our missteps there on the last question.

2288
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 1: We could have gone clean sweep, and we blew it

2289
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 1: because we had our producer telling us, get the brank,

2290
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 1: get that. We rushed that last one, didn't we We

2291
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:45,360
Speaker 1: rushed it back in a second here on One Bills

2292
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 1: Live presented by collud of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2293
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Speaker 1: We'll go back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve

2294
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 1: Champ through with you as we are a motoring home

2295
02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 1: in the final half hour of the program. Almost had

2296
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 1: a clean sweep on guests the staff. We should have

2297
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 1: got that. How did we forget Todd? We wouldn't have

2298
02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 1: gotten the other two guys, so we would have had

2299
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 1: two already, and I think we probably would have come

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02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:18,840
Speaker 1: to the conclusion that over because you were leaning that way.

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02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 1: Over sixty years of history, we would have got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you just ran out of time. I didn't.

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02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 1: I remember Matt Coefler, but not Todd Collins. That's terrible.

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02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:32,200
Speaker 1: I was a teammate of Todd Collins. We'll remember, we'll

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02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 1: remember ers trying to remember that for Tasker team. The

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Speaker 1: draft orders of those guys you can't remember, No, you can't,

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02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you remember a couple. I'm like Thurman,

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02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:41,080
Speaker 1: I knew it was just like the first pick of

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02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 1: the second round or a second pick of the second round,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and you know Andre was a fourth

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02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 1: round kind of you remember the kind of those guys.

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02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:53,560
Speaker 1: Ruben was a first rounder, right. So the top guys

2313
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 1: you kind of remember Jeff Burrows, Yeah, Kenny, Derek Burrows,

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02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 1: but not Lee. You get down who's the fourth rounder

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02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,880
Speaker 1: and who's the fifth rounder? Lee, I don't know, Thomas Smith,

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02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 1: Nate Clements. You know you're right, that's Willis McGahee, Yeah,

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02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:15,760
Speaker 1: Marshawn Marshaw. Those are the guys you remember. Back to

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02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 1: the obl fan mailbag, we go trying to rattle off

2319
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 1: as many answers as we can for you from Scott,

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02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:22,520
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the Bills trading out of

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02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 1: the first round. I know being is more apt to

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02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 1: trade up to get a guy that they feel would

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02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 1: be a difference banker, but with the current cap situation,

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02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 1: it might make more sense to trade back and get

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02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 1: more picks later that will cost less. I think trading

2326
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:41,800
Speaker 1: back only becomes more likely if the Bills don't address

2327
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 1: all the things they wanted to in free agency, don't. Yeah,

2328
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 1: if they don't address everything they wanted to in free agency,

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02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 1: either because it was cost prohibitive or the players said no,

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Speaker 1: thank you, and they don't get to the draft without

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02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: filling all the glaring home then I think if the

2332
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself to get more picks to fill more holes,

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02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 1: especially on the first two days, then I do think

2334
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:14,520
Speaker 1: it's a possibility. Yeah. Yeah, There's a lot that has

2335
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 1: to happen before the draft, so it's really hard to

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02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:18,880
Speaker 1: predict how it's going to turn out. Plus, because if

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02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 1: we discussed the first you know segment of the show,

2338
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:26,000
Speaker 1: how many different ways the Bills could create cap space,

2339
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:29,600
Speaker 1: and in doing so, how much cap space do they

2340
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 1: want to have, how much cap space do they need,

2341
02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 1: and who's available for them to make the moves to

2342
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 1: free up cap space to get and who would make

2343
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:41,960
Speaker 1: them want to do that, who would make them want

2344
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,840
Speaker 1: to trade up with their rosters, say we're going to

2345
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 1: release this guy and sign this guy even though they

2346
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 1: play different positions or what have you. So there's a

2347
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:54,400
Speaker 1: ton of things that are completely unpredictable at this point

2348
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: about what they're going to do in the draft, trade

2349
02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 1: up or trade down, I think more than anything. And

2350
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:03,720
Speaker 1: this is why it is unpredictable. If you're gonna see

2351
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 1: the Bills trade, it's gonna be because there's a guy

2352
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:12,400
Speaker 1: trade up. It's because there's a guy. There's a guy

2353
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:15,200
Speaker 1: and he's within five picks, you know what I mean.

2354
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 1: It's they're getting close to getting him and they don't

2355
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:20,840
Speaker 1: want to lose him. There's a guy that they think

2356
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 1: is a difference maker and they're gonna get him. That's

2357
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:27,320
Speaker 1: when you see him trade up. Trading back means things

2358
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 1: have gone well for them. In free agency. They've got

2359
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 1: they've got some guys. In fact, they landed a couple

2360
02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 1: latent free agency there. You know. Now they say, you

2361
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:38,400
Speaker 1: know what, the three guys we like, None of them

2362
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:41,480
Speaker 1: could There are gonna be Game Day one starters for us,

2363
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:45,400
Speaker 1: none of them. So let's trade back, get some extra picks.

2364
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:48,120
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll hit a flyer, take some chances. There's gonna

2365
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 1: be some guys available. That's kind of thing. So that's

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02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:52,560
Speaker 1: the scenarios that will happen if they trade up. It's

2367
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 1: because there's got a guy. They've got a guy, and

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Speaker 1: that's unpredictable because we don't know who they like, yeah,

2369
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, and we don't know who they're gonna need.

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Speaker 1: We don't know which guy they think is going to

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02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 1: make an impact and have that great pro career that

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02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:05,520
Speaker 1: they want to jump up a couple of spots to

2373
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:10,839
Speaker 1: make sure they get impossible to predict. Yeah, from Robert.

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02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 1: If they decide to give Josh Allen's fiftht yeer option,

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02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:15,360
Speaker 1: can they also give Edmunds his or do they have

2376
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:16,840
Speaker 1: to give it to just one of them? Yes, they

2377
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 1: can give the fifty year option to both of those guys.

2378
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 1: Because they were both first round picks top half of

2379
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 1: the draft, they both qualify. The interesting thing there is

2380
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 1: both players reach the Pro Bowl in their first three years,

2381
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 1: which triggers an automatic fifth year option payment equivalent to

2382
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:41,880
Speaker 1: the transition tag for their position. So if you don't

2383
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:44,200
Speaker 1: get to a Pro Bowl, you have to pay pay

2384
02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 1: them the average of like the top fifteen or something.

2385
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 1: But if they get to the Pro Bowl in their

2386
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 1: first three years, it's automatic average of the top ten.

2387
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 1: It's like the transition tag is basically what you gotta pay.

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02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 1: Number it is. That's a big number. I think it's

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02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 1: twenty one point seven five million. I believe if you'

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Speaker 1: if you signed him to that's where he's headed and

2391
02:11:07,400 --> 02:11:12,360
Speaker 1: deservedly so, Mom, Dad, we're going on vacation, right, Yeah, Jermaine,

2392
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:15,520
Speaker 1: same thing. His isn't that number, but it's big. Yeah,

2393
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:18,720
Speaker 1: it's big. Last one from Nick T. Instead of drafting

2394
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 1: a running back early, should we take a speedy running

2395
02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:22,000
Speaker 1: back in the mid to late rounds and use him

2396
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:24,840
Speaker 1: rotationally with Singletary and Moss doesn't seem to need to

2397
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 1: be starting quality. We just need someone fast to throw

2398
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 1: in for ten to fifteen snapsy game, to add a

2399
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:32,120
Speaker 1: speed element to the run game. I'm not opposed to that,

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02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:35,920
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking that's fifth sixth round territory if at all.

2401
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:39,560
Speaker 1: And the guy better be able to play on special teams. Yes,

2402
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:41,960
Speaker 1: like a Taiwan Jones type. I like the guy. I

2403
02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 1: like the idea, but it don't have to be a

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02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 1: speed guy. Could be a guy that's like sixty three

2405
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:50,080
Speaker 1: two forty, sixty three two fifty. Could be that guy too. No,

2406
02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:53,640
Speaker 1: you want a beast, you'd be you want another Larry Kinnebrew, right,

2407
02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 1: But I'm saying a specific guy, a role player, short

2408
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 1: yardage guy something, one of those guys, one of those

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02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:01,760
Speaker 1: guys to play on special teams though, and especially if

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02:12:01,760 --> 02:12:04,560
Speaker 1: you get a dressed absolutely, but yeah, I'm totally up

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Speaker 1: for that day. Three, yeah, fifth, sixth, seventh round somewhere

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Speaker 1: in there. All right, thanks for all the questions this week,

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Speaker 1: Steve and I back to close it up when we

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Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned from today's show,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by skywhere it's the official construction equipment

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02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:38,800
Speaker 1: rental company of the Buffalo Bills. We learned that Larry

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Speaker 1: Kinnebrew beat herschel Walker in a hundred yard dash in

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Speaker 1: high school. That's that one takes the cake for me today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we can beat that. I learned that

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Speaker 1: there's a phrase called pre kind. Yeah, that's right kind.

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02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but yeah, the Larry Kinnebrew thing.

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02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:56,320
Speaker 1: I told him. I hope he lives to be two

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Speaker 1: hundred years old, because when he does, they're gonna put

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02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:00,440
Speaker 1: that on his tombstone. Did you beat her for walker

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Speaker 1: in one hundred meters? I would do it. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see the photo because he said he

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02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:08,840
Speaker 1: was fifty coming out of high school. I told you

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02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 1: he was fast. Two fifty though. He's running out running

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02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:17,520
Speaker 1: herschel come on nine six hundred yard dash. That is

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02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 1: moving baby, banging into the office, into the line of

2432
02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:23,040
Speaker 1: scrimmage in the NFL and turning the corner, just out running.

2433
02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:24,840
Speaker 1: Look at him. I mean, that's a corner there. He

2434
02:13:24,920 --> 02:13:27,760
Speaker 1: just turned a corner on that's and he's and he

2435
02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:31,480
Speaker 1: had nice career. But that's a guy. That's a guy

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02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:33,200
Speaker 1: that plays in the NFL. That's you know, had a

2437
02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:35,200
Speaker 1: nice career, played for a couple of teams, played for

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02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:38,800
Speaker 1: probably I don't know, nine, quite a decade. He has

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02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:42,760
Speaker 1: seven year career. That's how unbelievable. That's how unbelievable. These

2440
02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 1: guys that we're looking at in these drafts are man

2441
02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:48,280
Speaker 1: they're coming out in free agents now. They're unbelievable. Yea.

2442
02:13:48,480 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 1: Eric Stokes of Georgia running a four two five today.

2443
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:55,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe I was in that league. What was

2444
02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:59,320
Speaker 1: I thinking? It's crazy man, Kudos to you thirteen years

2445
02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:03,680
Speaker 1: this is this is easier on Mondays it's Eason. Yeah,

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02:14:03,720 --> 02:14:05,800
Speaker 1: that's right. We will see you next week here on

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Speaker 1: Monday Bills Live. Don't you dare missus And look at

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Speaker 1: the One Bill's Live podcast this weekend. New episode there too,