Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Jeedge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Rika Jane.
Speaker 2: And we are here to recap Real Housewives Orange County
Speaker 2: Season eighteen, episode fifteen.
Speaker 1: I am having such a good time, Teddy, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I was giggling and cackling the entire time.
Speaker 2: Well, you know who's not having a good time?
Speaker 1: Shannon or Tamera or jin Or or Heather. I mean
Speaker 1: you could name any one of them. None of them
Speaker 1: are having a good time.
Speaker 2: Well, I think Emily might be having a good No,
Speaker 2: she's cool.
Speaker 1: That was That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like,
Speaker 1: Emily is like the calm constant.
Speaker 2: I mean she has her little impulses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not bad, Like it's nothing to do.
Speaker 2: It's all recoverable.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I just love the way. I remember I told
Speaker 1: you that side fights were going to be breaking out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it happened, and it's glorious.
Speaker 2: No, it's given us a whole new like, so much
Speaker 2: more to digest because everybody now it's and this is
Speaker 2: kind of what happens. As you get towards the end
Speaker 2: of the season, you are over it. You are over it.
Speaker 2: You no longer have patience for the people that you're
Speaker 2: spending all of your time. No, because you have to remember,
Speaker 2: we're seeing one thing, you know, it seems like one
Speaker 2: thing a day, but really these women are seeing each
Speaker 2: other three four times a day, having the same conversations.
Speaker 1: Yes, and in uncomfortable situations, which is why you get
Speaker 1: the reactions you do. Because it's cold, it's wet, you're tired,
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're hungry.
Speaker 2: Katie tells Tamra that she doesn't understand why Shannon can't
Speaker 2: just sit and talk instead, she gets super emotional. Katie
Speaker 2: doesn't get why Shannon would get plastic surgery if she
Speaker 2: was struggling financially to make herself feel better.
Speaker 1: How about this, There is no wrong time for plastic surgery.
Speaker 3: Katie.
Speaker 2: Check in with us in ten years.
Speaker 1: Katie, one day you will understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, I just saw you at you need it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, here's my doctor's info. You could do
Speaker 2: it for a post. Let's teddy. No, Katie does not
Speaker 2: need anything. Nobody really needs anything. But if you want something.
Speaker 1: And you make yourself happy.
Speaker 2: This is your life.
Speaker 1: If that's what you want to do with your body,
Speaker 1: you're entitled to do so.
Speaker 2: But also, I gotta be honest, I don't really give
Speaker 2: a shit, and it's not my problem how somebody spends
Speaker 2: their money if they're struggling.
Speaker 1: Like I'd okay, I was gonna say this was a
Speaker 1: big topic in both shows, but this one specifically. We
Speaker 1: have the dress, we have the plastic surgery. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, who are unless you're writing the check for
Speaker 1: these women's lives, who cares what they do with their money?
Speaker 2: Would they go flat out bro?
Speaker 1: It does not. It's not going to impact your life
Speaker 1: at all. I promise you.
Speaker 2: I remember us having a conversation with somebody in Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills and this doesn't ruining. This is years ago after
Speaker 2: a robbery where we said maybe toned down wearing the
Speaker 2: labels just because people are going to come after you
Speaker 2: more if they see it. That I think is the
Speaker 2: conversation you can have because it's not about financially how
Speaker 2: much somebody has, but it's about the world we're living
Speaker 2: in right now.
Speaker 1: Well, that is a well I was going to say,
Speaker 1: you're allowed to wear whatever you want and buy whatever
Speaker 1: you want. But the crime part of it is that's
Speaker 1: a different conversation.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. There's a room for that conversation
Speaker 2: if it's done with love and like a little bit
Speaker 2: of like we're looking out for you and this or.
Speaker 1: But I think you have to pick and choose. Well,
Speaker 1: this is like, look, if we're going to comment on
Speaker 1: the city we live in with just Los Angeles, where
Speaker 1: everybody's rolex is getting snatched off, where every house is
Speaker 1: getting broken into no matter where, whether it's bel Air,
Speaker 1: you know, Beverly Hills, whatever, that's like. Now you're impinging
Speaker 1: on people's lifestyles. You can feel like you can't even
Speaker 1: wear something that you worked hard to pay for. That's
Speaker 1: not cool, you know.
Speaker 2: But I also think it's hard when the women keep
Speaker 2: talking about living beyond their financial means, when we all
Speaker 2: know that they're also being paid to be on the
Speaker 2: show and to look a certain way, you have.
Speaker 1: To look a certain way if you called it in
Speaker 1: and if I looked on Beverly Hills the way I
Speaker 1: want to look, which is you've all seen the paparazzi pictures.
Speaker 1: That's me, but guess what, not on camera?
Speaker 2: Guess what and if we are for if you are
Speaker 2: forced to do on camera, you know, because Erica has
Speaker 2: the big shades, Yeah, you could, like you see this
Speaker 2: much of your face like it's just and it's not
Speaker 2: because you're not beautiful without makeup. It's just this is what.
Speaker 1: Well, my expectation is, Yeah, the expectation of the show,
Speaker 1: the expectation of the viewers, the expectation like you place
Speaker 1: on yourself. It's kind of a whole thing. And I
Speaker 1: know that look is it real? Yeah, it's real? Is
Speaker 1: my skin was my skin barrier broken and my face
Speaker 1: was inflamed and I didn't feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you see it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you watch bet On all on Blonde and see
Speaker 1: me with no makeup on at the worst time in
Speaker 1: my life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did it. Yeah. I would have.
Speaker 1: Preferred to maybe have something better, some powder on my face,
Speaker 1: but it didn't work out that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes it doesn't. But I say, nothing is
Speaker 2: more relaxing than a spa treatment. Talking about your friend,
Speaker 2: I thought about our spa treatment realm.
Speaker 1: I was so hungover.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just spa treatments on these shows in general,
Speaker 2: unless it's a foot massage. I like, yeah, they're not relaxing.
Speaker 1: Well, look, the one thing that's wonderful about being on
Speaker 1: a show like Orange County or Beverly Hills like we were,
Speaker 1: so we get to go and do all of these
Speaker 1: cool things in all these beautiful places that, having been.
Speaker 2: Said, you don't get to enjoy them.
Speaker 1: We don't get to enjoy them like you would if
Speaker 1: you weren't involved in, you know, telling a story. And
Speaker 1: so it's almost like I remember you and I being
Speaker 1: at the girlon Spot and I mean, no, it wasn't
Speaker 1: that wasn't girlng We were in Rome. Gosh what spot?
Speaker 1: But anyway, it was beautiful and we couldn't we couldn't
Speaker 1: enjoy one moment.
Speaker 2: We couldn't enjoy one moment of it, and no one
Speaker 2: else didn't make me enjoy one moment of it when
Speaker 2: they took a picture of my face and then blew
Speaker 2: it up like every single poor like, uh, thank you, yes, thanks,
Speaker 2: we really appreciate that, thank you for that. But then
Speaker 2: we start to see things unraveled a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 2: Gina tells Jen that Shannon showed her the with Alexis
Speaker 2: from twenty eighteen about her and Jim suing Shannon and Tamra.
Speaker 2: Gina can't believe Tarma knows Shannon is telling the truth,
Speaker 2: but A tacks her for lying.
Speaker 1: Ooh see, because there's ten years of backstory or more
Speaker 1: that you don't take into consideration at that point and.
Speaker 2: At this point have helped me because my memory isn't
Speaker 2: great on this. Do we know that Tamra and Shannon
Speaker 2: have spoken about this since those original texts? Because I
Speaker 2: don't imagine Tamara has text from twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. If Shannon has them, I'm
Speaker 1: sure she had them. I'm sure Tama had them at
Speaker 1: one point also too, if you're asking me something about
Speaker 1: six years ago, I may or may not. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: which part right?
Speaker 2: I would have to check with one of you guys,
Speaker 2: like we will send sometimes texts and be like hey.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but if you show someone okay, So, if
Speaker 1: Tamra doesn't have the text from Alexis right from twenty eighteen, yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Only Shannon got the text because Alexis had
Speaker 1: Shannon's number, I could see where Tama would forget it.
Speaker 1: The exact verbiage of what was said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also am confused why Alexis had Shannon's
Speaker 2: number but not Tamra's when Alexis and Tarma were on
Speaker 2: the show for many years together and Shannon and Alexis
Speaker 2: were never.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, sometimes people don't have each other's numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sometimes people change their numbers. That's right.
Speaker 2: But can we talk a minute about how fans wanted
Speaker 2: Gina fired and now she's the central force between everyone
Speaker 2: and the women's she's really good, she does a great job.
Speaker 2: She's doing a good job, doing a good job. Then
Speaker 2: Shannon said she made it. Okay, this is this is
Speaker 2: where it gets.
Speaker 1: This is where I get bogged down into the minutia
Speaker 1: of what happened, and here here we go, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: really good at this.
Speaker 2: Well I wouldn't say I'm really good at this, but
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm starting to get a exhausted by
Speaker 2: this conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and it's okay.
Speaker 2: But Shannon said she made it clear to Heather and
Speaker 2: so Noma that she wanted the conversation to stay between.
Speaker 1: Them, and they flashed back by and that is true.
Speaker 2: She did say that.
Speaker 1: She did say that, and Heather said, okay, I will
Speaker 1: not bring it to the group to the group.
Speaker 2: Which is code for I'm not going to share it
Speaker 2: with other people on camera, even though you're sharing it
Speaker 2: with me on care right. But in that same token,
Speaker 2: once you say it on camera, it's already freaking out there.
Speaker 2: So you can play both sides.
Speaker 1: You can like, but you also but you wouldn't because
Speaker 1: you have the the time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You have time for it to come out later, So
Speaker 1: it's right, That's how I would do it.
Speaker 2: But then Heather says, this is what happened last year.
Speaker 2: Shannon already put it out there.
Speaker 1: That's true too. Yeah, that's true too. And sometimes when
Speaker 1: you're shooting these shows, you have to remember some things
Speaker 1: have already been discussed and are possibly out in the press.
Speaker 1: So am I saying it? No, it's already been said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that you know, at this point,
Speaker 2: Shannon is correct. She chose the wrong person to share
Speaker 2: that information with. Possibly, I do I think that Heather
Speaker 2: was doing something that nine out of Otherton Housewives wouldn't. No, No,
Speaker 2: But I also wonder why she chose I've never seen
Speaker 2: Heather and Shannon be super close, Like why that would
Speaker 2: be the person she can find it in.
Speaker 1: You never know why someone tells someone that's kind of
Speaker 1: you just don't know. I mean, you would hope that
Speaker 1: it was genuine. Hey, I felt like I could really
Speaker 1: tell you this, but it maybe it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Or maybe you're stuck and you don't feel close to anyone.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying below hanging fruit.
Speaker 1: Well, you pick somebody that's neutral enough to where it's
Speaker 1: not going to blow up in your face but surprise.
Speaker 2: Surprise, or someone that normally doesn't cause drama, right but
Speaker 2: today they did. Today they did. Heather says if she
Speaker 2: pays John, it all dies away. Shannon Shannon grabs a
Speaker 2: notebook page with expenses with John during their first six
Speaker 2: months of their relationship.
Speaker 1: I have to stop you. Have you ever taken notes
Speaker 1: on expenses of a boyfriend or something of somebody that
Speaker 1: you were dating? No, and I have never done that,
Speaker 1: But I want to know, like, like, what kind of
Speaker 1: relationship do you think you're having if you're keeping score already?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. When I was younger, I had
Speaker 2: a little Kate Spade notebook and I would write guys'
Speaker 2: names in it, and then they would have an asterisk
Speaker 2: by what how far we went? That's completely different.
Speaker 1: We're talking finances starmys kids. I'm scar means, oh my god,
Speaker 1: dry hump, Oh god, I haven't done that in a while.
Speaker 2: You mean you haven't gotten a chippy. Chippy is like
Speaker 2: because you dry hump and then it hurts your pelvic
Speaker 2: bone and then you feel like you chipped your pelvis
Speaker 2: the next day.
Speaker 1: I did not know this. Well, I usually just get
Speaker 1: the dick.
Speaker 2: AnyWho she has gone through. But my question is did
Speaker 2: she write it down each time, like.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what it looks like, or or did she
Speaker 1: go back in her I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Do you write it down like I took John to
Speaker 1: dinner tonight and it was five hundred dollars and then
Speaker 1: or did you just recollect? Did you recall all of
Speaker 1: these expenses and write them down on notebook paper?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even need to see an Excel
Speaker 2: like well an at least put it on one page.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, and it looked like it was all rather
Speaker 1: like you know, like scraps. Here's the thing. If I
Speaker 1: have to date a man and put our meals or
Speaker 1: something on Excel, I'm not dating you like, that's not
Speaker 1: part of the deal. Well, I also that takes all
Speaker 1: the romance I want. Somebody can feel comfortable with it.
Speaker 1: I feel good with not somebody where. And today you
Speaker 1: had a burger and fries, and then I don't want
Speaker 1: that one drink? Right, and so here's your uber ride.
Speaker 1: You took a comfort or an ex.
Speaker 2: You know what? No, who else does these kind of
Speaker 2: things that really bugs me. I'm not naming a specific person,
Speaker 2: but there are people that you all go. There's five
Speaker 2: of you that go, I don't like that. And then
Speaker 2: one person's like, I only had one drink and you
Speaker 2: had two, So let's maybe you leave the tip.
Speaker 1: I'm like, go, fuck all, you know how I like
Speaker 1: how we do it or not? I have it this time,
Speaker 1: You get it next time, Renna has it, next time,
Speaker 1: the next time, de he gets it the next time.
Speaker 1: Like that to me is where do we want to go? Okay,
Speaker 1: well I'll go here. That is fair and that all working.
Speaker 1: We have enough split the fucking check.
Speaker 2: And if you must split it like I can't.
Speaker 1: Also when you're younger, not as I'm too old to
Speaker 1: be split in check. No.
Speaker 2: It brings me back to like when I worked at
Speaker 2: mister Chow and Cia in the mailroom, and I'd be like, well,
Speaker 2: I can't go to dinner tonight if we're because because
Speaker 2: I don't have anything. I have enough money I could,
Speaker 2: I could buy two drinks for the after party, but
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't have a meal. Yes, I cannot have a meal.
Speaker 2: But it also like, you know, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: going into a relationship with somebody if they're not financially
Speaker 2: paying the first couple times a man, Yes, that you're
Speaker 2: doing that, and then you're accepting that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I agree with that. If you go down this
Speaker 1: road okay, once twice maybe something. But when you see
Speaker 1: a distinct pattern and you choose to keep going down
Speaker 1: that road, then you've accepted that behavior and that's the
Speaker 1: way it is, and.
Speaker 2: Then you have to stop taking note about it. And
Speaker 2: it's not gonna Sadly, it's not gonna be tipped for tat.
Speaker 2: I paid sixty thousand in our first six months of
Speaker 2: our relationship. Now you need to pay seventy thousand for
Speaker 2: my neck. Like it doesn't it just doesn't work like that, No,
Speaker 2: But I also want to be like, who does your
Speaker 2: like taxes and stuff like somebody could have at least
Speaker 2: given you just a one sheet.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, like, hey, you spent this much money, but
Speaker 1: also how much.
Speaker 2: Money do you think Shannon would have spent without John?
Speaker 2: You know, like, I don't know what it's all in
Speaker 2: meal tab or is this she did she go through
Speaker 2: each meal?
Speaker 1: You had her go off and I had fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyways, then Gina tells Jen that she heard
Speaker 2: chatter about Jen's dress from the teapot.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Jen in this moment. I just do.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I just do.
Speaker 1: Let the fucking girl wear whatever dress she wants. You, guys,
Speaker 1: if she goes broke, if she marries this man, that's
Speaker 1: on her, y'all.
Speaker 2: She's making these choices. And clearly you can tell when
Speaker 2: Jen is talking, she's not a hundred and this This
Speaker 2: is not a dig I myself am not one hundred
Speaker 2: percent confident all of the time. That is human nature.
Speaker 1: I feel it too, But I can feel feel her
Speaker 1: her energy feeling just so yeah, like she.
Speaker 2: Feels she I don't think we've gotten to see the
Speaker 2: real Gin yet until maybe it's trying to come out.
Speaker 2: And I liked that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think she's always stifled herself. She seems
Speaker 4: like a sweet girl woman. Excuse me, And I feel
Speaker 4: like she's put a lot of people ahead of herself.
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and she looked cute in her dress. And
Speaker 1: you know what, honey, if you want to buy live
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: Know what her dress reminded me of. Tell me Ji's
Speaker 2: room from Buka to Beppo.
Speaker 1: You know what next?
Speaker 2: Next? Whatever? This is?
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what? Uh, Katie, not the Lemit, the
Speaker 1: Capri Room.
Speaker 2: I'm shower in a living room with Brandy Glanville showing off.
Speaker 2: It's a dream for the Capri Room. Sometimes I drive
Speaker 2: by there and I think, I see it's there. Oh God,
Speaker 2: bless that. And then all the baby things hanging. I
Speaker 2: love that. I was like, we're gonna do your baby
Speaker 2: shower and Elpa stay and I'm like yes. And then
Speaker 2: I had a surprise and booking a fucking puppo surprise.
Speaker 1: I was like, it was a real surprise, and I
Speaker 1: wore a pink wig and everything.
Speaker 2: We're like, excuse me, can you pass them onto row sticks?
Speaker 2: You know what's bad? As your friends were there, but
Speaker 2: we couldn't talk to them. We kicked them out.
Speaker 1: We couldn't talk to Teddy's friends because we had important bist.
Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, Brandy's here, Can you all leave? Can you
Speaker 2: all leave?
Speaker 1: Parties over? Thanks for coming to the Capri room for
Speaker 1: Teddy's shower, which was supposed to be an ill pestia.
Speaker 2: Half of my friends couldn't even come to like, we
Speaker 2: love you, but we're not going to Booga to bubbo
Speaker 2: at eight a Tuesday on camera to see you. This
Speaker 2: is a night baby shower. Anyway we do at the Cariom.
Speaker 1: Fucking I cannot lives that.
Speaker 2: Katie tells Tamra that Jen called her the morning of
Speaker 2: the tea party and was debating returning the dress. Jen
Speaker 2: called Ryan and he said, I love I love the
Speaker 2: attention to detail here. She could get multiple uses out
Speaker 2: of it, sho cousins, brothers, sisters, graduation.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'll be honest with you, guys.
Speaker 1: If I buy something and it's a hefty ticket, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, not only can I wear this on
Speaker 1: the show, but I'm gonna wear it here and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wear it there and I'm gonna sell.
Speaker 2: But you're lying to yourself because you're not going to
Speaker 2: do damn it, I'm going to I think like, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to get multiple use you do.
Speaker 2: I've seen you do it. Well. What ends up happening,
Speaker 2: which does make me feel good is then I loan
Speaker 2: it to somebody else and then it gives me like
Speaker 2: a little bit of of course, relief from the guilt.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think she can wear the dress again,
Speaker 1: and you can wear it at the wedding and you
Speaker 1: can wear it real life, and you know what, it's
Speaker 1: cute on you wear the fucking dress and don't let
Speaker 1: them tell you you can't wear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then Tarma is confused by what's going on
Speaker 2: with Ryan. In the past, Jen and Ryan would go
Speaker 2: on private planes to gamble, and now they're going to
Speaker 2: Bahamas allegedly and then Vegas. And I don't know much
Speaker 2: about gambling, you know, I don't gamble. Yeah, even though,
Speaker 2: thank you Pachanga, I'll be staying there this weekend, I am.
Speaker 2: I'm going to Slate's horse show. And yeah, they want
Speaker 2: to learn to play black jet. You know, with my eleven,
Speaker 2: you're so cheap. She won't lose twenty bucks. I know,
Speaker 2: she just won't do it.
Speaker 1: Guys, you know, like you know how you could set
Speaker 1: aside a little gambling budget, like one hundred dollars. She
Speaker 1: won't do it.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, The loss of control of my finances is
Speaker 2: a big deal.
Speaker 1: Over. I'm like, okay, well I'll carve out a little
Speaker 1: something just to play have a good time this one. No, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: Also, I don't like losing. And if I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be good at.
Speaker 1: Something, well, it's not that you always have to go
Speaker 1: into gambling knowing that the house has the advantage. So
Speaker 1: you're already if you if you say I have one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, you already have resigned yourself to say this
Speaker 1: either turns into something or I had a nice time
Speaker 1: and that's it.
Speaker 2: Well I can do that if it's like sushi.
Speaker 1: And right exactly and good right, listen, some people love
Speaker 1: the chase.
Speaker 2: You're not one of them. Ben, Gina says the whole
Speaker 2: mammogram thing she doesn't get.
Speaker 1: But hold on, how does she not get it? I
Speaker 1: was going to say the exact same thing. You know,
Speaker 1: Heather was the one that said, oh no, Gina brought uh,
Speaker 1: I haven't had a mammogram.
Speaker 2: Oh I'll go with you.
Speaker 1: Do you not remember Heather saying, oh, I'll go with you.
Speaker 1: I'll set it. She set it up and nobody and
Speaker 1: actually she got the worst results, and nobody even comforted her.
Speaker 1: No one even asked, no one even asked. They were all,
Speaker 1: you know, well they got to ask everybody, like it's
Speaker 1: that's just it's just human nature to check.
Speaker 2: In to check in on somebody. If we both go
Speaker 2: in to get a skin check, right, and you're not like, Teddy,
Speaker 2: how did it go? And I tell you? And then
Speaker 2: I'm like, anyways, yeah, right, And I know that, you know,
Speaker 2: especially when you do these things together. But then Gina
Speaker 2: brings up Heather's comment about Gina's house on Watch What
Speaker 2: Happens Live and not defending her, and Heather says she
Speaker 2: should have told her. This upset her. I feel like
Speaker 2: more all of the story is Heather's richer than everybody.
Speaker 1: Yes, Heather's wealthier than all of you. So just that's
Speaker 1: the way it is.
Speaker 2: And she's going to let you know from time to time.
Speaker 2: So what, but you should still check in on how
Speaker 2: her mammogram went.
Speaker 1: Even if she's listen, wealthear wealthy look. Money doesn't take
Speaker 1: that pain of uncertainty away. Money does not take away fear.
Speaker 1: Money does not take away panic. Money. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that money does help, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't solve everything.
Speaker 2: It can't help medical.
Speaker 1: No, it really can't. And anyway, No, you might get
Speaker 1: better medical.
Speaker 2: Treatmentment, but the fear that's surrounding is not a diagnosis
Speaker 2: does not change. No, it does not. Then Jin confronts
Speaker 2: Heather and asks her if her dress I can't even
Speaker 2: just talking about again. Jen confronts Heather, and.
Speaker 1: She's only getting six thousand. The dress was too I
Speaker 1: was worried about you.
Speaker 2: I was so I mean, Heather, at this point, just
Speaker 2: say I was being a shady asshole. Just say you know,
Speaker 2: I was wondering how you could afford it, yeah, or
Speaker 2: just say like you know what I think until you
Speaker 2: make more money, like I don't even I don't even
Speaker 2: know what she should have said.
Speaker 1: But saying that I was worried about you, yeah, is
Speaker 1: not what it's I mean, it's cute, but it's not true.
Speaker 2: You may need to curate like a better, more believable.
Speaker 2: Like nobody ship talks because they're worried because they want to.
Speaker 2: You should talk because we're.
Speaker 1: You only got five grand that dresses too? What are
Speaker 1: you going to do with the rest?
Speaker 2: Are you eighty seven kids? And right? Are you sure
Speaker 2: that's where you want to do?
Speaker 1: I'm just asking, you know, I'm just checking in, Teddy.
Speaker 2: Would you like Shannon to do your books? She's got
Speaker 2: some Nope, spiral.
Speaker 1: Very interesting way of accounting for very specific things. I
Speaker 1: had a steak.
Speaker 2: Jeout dollar dress can be worn again.
Speaker 1: At the Caprie Room.
Speaker 2: Jen, you want to meet us at the Capri Room.
Speaker 2: You can wear the dress, then I'll change into it.
Speaker 2: We'll both take pics.
Speaker 1: Yes, sure, it looks probably cute on you too. You
Speaker 1: know what, then you know what you can do? Honey,
Speaker 1: put that dress on consignment. I'm sure there's somewhere out
Speaker 1: there in oc make some money back on the dress.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: They've already gotten into a lot of conversations about selling
Speaker 2: clothes out of the garage though, and buying fake clothes.
Speaker 1: This is she She was accused of buying fake clothes.
Speaker 1: I have a I have a story to tell. So
Speaker 1: I'm friends with these designers. I'm not gonna say who
Speaker 1: they are, but they're really cool and they're very wealthy,
Speaker 1: and we like you know, have lunch whenever they're in
Speaker 1: town from Europe. And you know what they said to me.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of women wear fakes things on
Speaker 1: these shows. And I was like really, and they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, because we can tell. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's not me. You're like, it's not me, and they
Speaker 1: were like no, no, no, but they can tell. Like
Speaker 1: just say, you know, if you think you're pulling one off,
Speaker 1: you're not.
Speaker 2: You're not pulling one off. And also if it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Fake, like I am, okay, just say you got it
Speaker 1: on dh gate and keep it pushing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it on dh Yes said I got
Speaker 2: a dupe. I got dupe sunglasses from Amazon. Tap my
Speaker 2: link on LTK and make me some money. Do you
Speaker 2: have one on ltk? Oh? I do? Do you not?
Speaker 1: You know what is going on with me?
Speaker 2: Get yourself together? I'm sorry, gather yourself I shall god.
Speaker 2: Shannon brings up the text from Alexis to Tamara. Shannon
Speaker 2: tells Tamara she has a big ego, and Tama says
Speaker 2: she's not the one with such a big ego that
Speaker 2: she wouldn't pay seventy five thousand because she doesn't want
Speaker 2: to look bad. Tamara raises her hand in Shannon's face
Speaker 2: oh and says she is done. I know, not once,
Speaker 2: but twice. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Too much, too much, too much, too much, too much
Speaker 1: from Tamara. We love Tamar because she's spicy. And what
Speaker 1: happens is when you go past the mark. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: get when you go past the mark, you know you've
Speaker 1: hit your mark. When you keep doing that, then it
Speaker 1: turns from spicy and sassy to.
Speaker 2: Because then it's hard because even though a lot of
Speaker 2: what she might be saying could be accurate, it's lost
Speaker 2: in the tone.
Speaker 1: Well, now it comes about her in this case, Tamra,
Speaker 1: instead of what she said, yeah, and that that's the problem.
Speaker 2: But then this is all At this point, you're like,
Speaker 2: this is why I hate when it's somebody's trip, because
Speaker 2: now Shannon gets to keep saying this is my trip,
Speaker 2: this is my birthday, and then everybody's going after everybody.
Speaker 1: But it is fun for me to watch.
Speaker 2: I'm But then they then all of the other ladies
Speaker 2: that are in relationships thought it would be a good idea.
Speaker 1: Well, I hold on before you say this, to call
Speaker 1: their spouses. If we were on Beverly Hills. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: have anybody to call. We're all single.
Speaker 2: Who would you text me? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I have a you know I might.
Speaker 2: I'm naked. I excuse me?
Speaker 1: Like this?
Speaker 2: Shut up? I join?
Speaker 3: Do you draw only fans.
Speaker 2: Anyways? They right? I am naked, Eddie says. All of
Speaker 2: the husbands are significant other's responses. Eddie says in class,
Speaker 2: if you'd like to use your imagination, I love him.
Speaker 1: He's sweet.
Speaker 2: And Bryan, this was so cute. Is this for me?
Speaker 2: Or did you meet someone at the bar?
Speaker 1: Laugh? That was very clever, Ryan, very cute. Katie's husband's
Speaker 1: on the golf course, Tom, are you with me?
Speaker 2: Are you going to respond? And I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1: We can't have your phone on the golf course. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows that you're not allowed to have your phone. You
Speaker 1: get kicked out of the club.
Speaker 2: So, but Katie, go ahead and let us know if
Speaker 2: he ever responded, and what did he say?
Speaker 1: This is also cute. Travis, give me fifteen seconds. I
Speaker 1: will probably finish.
Speaker 2: Just as quickly. I just want to expectation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cute.
Speaker 2: I like a funny response. Then Emily says, the game
Speaker 2: was not made to make.
Speaker 1: Come on, nobody was trying to make Shannon feel bad.
Speaker 1: It is no big deal. I mean, come on, if
Speaker 1: you're getting upset over that after all these other things. Really,
Speaker 1: And then somebody said, text Archie the Dog.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I want to.
Speaker 1: Text Thiago because he was my best friend.
Speaker 2: You're like, I want him to text back, right?
Speaker 1: I do I give anything for Thiago to text back
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Well, if I texted Edwin I was, he'd probably respond,
Speaker 2: we'll put some clothes on.
Speaker 1: Oh no, ed Way to drop the ball.
Speaker 2: No, he would probably like it, but I probably would
Speaker 2: decent news no, rat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you morally opposed?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not morally opposed. I just like I feel
Speaker 2: as though if it got out there, if I thought
Speaker 2: that it was a quality nude that's what I was
Speaker 2: going to say, then I maybe would do it. Like
Speaker 2: I mean, I was nude on a billboard in New
Speaker 2: York for the melanoma reason. It's not that I'm opposed
Speaker 2: to being news.
Speaker 1: You just want the right look.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't want to be thrown. I've seen
Speaker 2: some really unfortunate raw.
Speaker 1: Very sort of yeah, and I just don't want my
Speaker 1: picture getting out there.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna do that, it needs to
Speaker 1: be smooth and pretty and you feel good about it.
Speaker 2: Then Shannon reads a text from tam Off to Jen
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty two. Someone sent Tamra's stuff about Ryan,
Speaker 2: and tamer said, I'm asking my friend's husband if he
Speaker 2: can do a background check. She then texted evidence of
Speaker 2: the background check. Jen says it's weird and obsessive, and
Speaker 2: Jen says she uses their lives to make her life
Speaker 2: relevant since it's boring. Jen would rather have a little
Speaker 2: bank account, kids who love her, and a man who
Speaker 2: supports her than Tarama's life. First question, this isn't in
Speaker 2: defense of Tamra, but why is Shannon bringing something up
Speaker 2: text from two years ago?
Speaker 1: Well, it's clearer that Shannon and Tamor are at each
Speaker 1: other's throats, it gets worse, and that's you know, this
Speaker 1: is where the friendship starts to unravel. And also too,
Speaker 1: when you've been on a show, you have a certain
Speaker 1: amount of trust with your castmates or your friends, and
Speaker 1: then you start to see that ship away, and that
Speaker 1: is something that's.
Speaker 2: Like, why are you doing this right?
Speaker 1: I would really have to wonder, why is this happening?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's when you're at like complete
Speaker 2: wits end. But I think, I mean, I was only
Speaker 2: on three years, but I think I had a after
Speaker 2: my first year, I had a pretty good gathering on
Speaker 2: the people. I could tell who my secrets to sure
Speaker 2: and who I.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it look as long as they've been
Speaker 1: on Orange County together, they know a lot about each other,
Speaker 1: Tamra and Shannon. That's why this fight going in is
Speaker 1: really interesting to me, because you can I can't, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can too, see all of the unsaid things.
Speaker 1: I can feel them all because when you're watching these shows,
Speaker 1: you guys can assume, but we know what's not being said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's not being said? And people are often I mean,
Speaker 2: I gotta be really honest. A friend of mine the
Speaker 2: other day texted me that her boyfriend was texting somebody else,
Speaker 2: and I said, she goes, I don't know who it is.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, what's the phone number? Did you
Speaker 2: offer your services? I did, and I found out the
Speaker 2: answer in fifteen seconds.
Speaker 1: Was it a bad answer?
Speaker 2: I had to pay one dollar ninety nine cents for it,
Speaker 2: but I found out who it was. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if that means that I'm an asshole, but like,
Speaker 2: I'm happy. So if Jen and Tamra were friends or
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, you want to get somebody away
Speaker 2: from a bad guy, I'm not opposed to it, spending
Speaker 2: a dollar ninety nine to do a little check either way,
Speaker 2: I think, you know what, we would be silly to
Speaker 2: think that both Tamra and Shannon weren't both discussing.
Speaker 1: They're both doing it. They're both discussing it, and we
Speaker 1: all know it. The audience knows it, the girls know it,
Speaker 1: they know it. It's it's what happens on these shows. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: I will say this. I want to say one thing
Speaker 1: about that. It's to a level of degree as to
Speaker 1: who you're dealing with and how much you need to know.
Speaker 1: You think you need to know about someone.
Speaker 2: Right, And most of the time, like on Beverly Hills
Speaker 2: for example, that may be talked about, but then nobody
Speaker 2: actually really carries it out. Yeah. See, they go a
Speaker 2: little bit more ham and I.
Speaker 1: Say that they do. It's a it's a tougher crowd
Speaker 1: down in Orange County.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think a lot of them have I
Speaker 2: think in Beverly Hills there's a certain level of like, well,
Speaker 2: I think professionalism you're trying to uphold.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know why, because their consequences outside of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then yeah, these women don't play like that. Yeah. No,
Speaker 2: they're like, fuck, this is it, this is our money maker.
Speaker 2: We're going for it.
Speaker 1: In Beverly Hills. You know, you're thinking about a lot
Speaker 1: of different things at one time.
Speaker 2: In Beverly Hills, we think twice before texting about background checks.
Speaker 2: We speak in persons, right, pick up the phone. Then
Speaker 2: Jen knocks on Tarmra's door and confronts her about doing
Speaker 2: the background I love it, I love it. I love
Speaker 2: to see Jen.
Speaker 1: I love to see her like this, her abs, which
Speaker 1: I was noticing before someone said anything. By the way,
Speaker 1: your abs look great. You look adorable, and I was
Speaker 1: so happy to see you stick up for yourself, Jen,
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Tamra says she clapsed because tam well,
Speaker 2: I have a passive aggressive tid. It's very passive aggressive.
Speaker 1: Tama was being very passive aggressive and very sort of like, okay,
Speaker 1: here you go, kiddo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the day four the trip you're over
Speaker 2: it you're done.
Speaker 1: I saw someone who's very experienced, was very experienced, and
Speaker 1: I loved Heather. Wait, Heather's glam went from wet to
Speaker 1: like almost completely blown dry. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: noticed it.
Speaker 2: I did because I was thinking, this fight has gone
Speaker 2: on for a long time.
Speaker 1: And but then Heather's Heather's head was wet, and then
Speaker 1: Heather's blow dry was completely done and like.
Speaker 2: And then I kept thinking, you know, Tamara is so
Speaker 2: probably annoyed that they came in while her lips were
Speaker 2: still the same color as her, like she was early,
Speaker 2: and her makeup artists had to stop. It's really good.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is but this is why Why
Speaker 2: do people get so mad at a scene like this
Speaker 2: when this is what we watched for.
Speaker 1: This is what's really happening. If you want authenticity, this
Speaker 1: is what's happening. Yes, I'm trying to get ready for
Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Someone busts in my room
Speaker 1: starts cussing me out, and I look and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know it is what it is. Then, by
Speaker 1: the way, everybody had glam, So I'm so tired. Don't
Speaker 1: talk to me about Glenn.
Speaker 2: But I have to say, you're to blame for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, you know what you were though, because before
Speaker 2: you no one did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I that's fine. I take full credit for
Speaker 1: raising the bar. I said what I said as a.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact.
Speaker 1: Any Cohen said it too.
Speaker 2: I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, step your pussy up if you want to
Speaker 1: fuck with me.
Speaker 2: Well here's the problem. Now we all go broke buying
Speaker 2: Buka to Beppo dresses, trying to level up with it.
Speaker 1: But you don't have to buy full designer all the time.
Speaker 1: Even I don't do that.
Speaker 2: But I think here's the problem. Not everyone likes that.
Speaker 2: Well no, not everyone has the ability to create looks
Speaker 2: and I what I don't like is watch a housewife
Speaker 2: like myself trying to create a persona that I don't
Speaker 2: naturally have. That is something you thrive on. You love it.
Speaker 1: It's artistic, like it was who I was before I
Speaker 1: joined the show, right, but now every housewife is trying
Speaker 1: to do it. Well, you know what I said. Well,
Speaker 1: how I think of it is everybody needs to find
Speaker 1: how they feel comfortable. If you feel comfortable that way,
Speaker 1: and you you really are embracing whatever way you want
Speaker 1: to express yourself, do that. This is how I choose
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you did set the bar well not I
Speaker 2: hate to give a compliment, but you did. But up yeah,
Speaker 2: slip out. Sometimes Jen tells Heather that the only reason
Speaker 2: Tarmor is friends with Heather is because she is in
Speaker 2: front of her right now.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Tamra knows who Heather is and Heather
Speaker 1: knows who Tamor is. So Gina is not actually giving
Speaker 1: Pearls a wisdom here whatever.
Speaker 2: See, that's not much I can Yeah, you're like, I know,
Speaker 2: but we in this moment, I do think we have
Speaker 2: to bring levity to the fact that we're talking about
Speaker 2: two text messages, one that happened in twenty eighteen and
Speaker 2: one that happened two years ago, and that's what these
Speaker 2: women are having to go off of right now.
Speaker 1: And it's but it's fascinating to me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm having a good time on this trip so far.
Speaker 2: Something that I do want to say about the pod
Speaker 2: regardless is yes, some of the women on all of
Speaker 2: the different franchise franchises are my friends, so of course
Speaker 2: I'm going to be biased. But that is why there's
Speaker 2: another person on the pod with me to give their
Speaker 2: opinions as well. Yes, and that's why you're watching, to
Speaker 2: take your own opinions and.
Speaker 1: Their own opinions right, and then you can come in
Speaker 1: the comments and argue yeah.
Speaker 2: And who doesn't have a friend that's going to have
Speaker 2: their back in some capacity even when they are wrong.
Speaker 1: Even when they are wrong. The thing is that I
Speaker 1: think people just want to be like, hey, I didn't
Speaker 1: agree with that.
Speaker 2: And you know what we all do.
Speaker 1: All of our friends make decisions that you're like.
Speaker 2: Mhm, yeah, and you see it and you're like shit,
Speaker 2: But they know it too. Sometimes they pretend they don't
Speaker 2: know it, but everybody knows that. We see ourselves.
Speaker 1: Well, we do. Definitely, you and I these worriers, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to say everybody else is
Speaker 1: self aware. I'm not going to give that through it.
Speaker 2: Listen, let's not throw that out there. Let's not throw
Speaker 2: that out there. Wait till you see us. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of
Speaker 2: to Teas and a Pod with myself and Erica. I
Speaker 2: enjoyed the trip. Thanks for listening. See us in London. Bye,