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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Jeedge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in

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Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Rika Jane.

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Speaker 2: And we are here to recap Real Housewives Orange County

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Speaker 2: Season eighteen, episode fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I am having such a good time, Teddy, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: I was giggling and cackling the entire time.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know who's not having a good time?

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Speaker 1: Shannon or Tamera or jin Or or Heather. I mean

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Speaker 1: you could name any one of them. None of them

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Speaker 1: are having a good time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Emily might be having a good No,

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Speaker 2: she's cool.

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Speaker 1: That was That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like,

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Speaker 1: Emily is like the calm constant.

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Speaker 2: I mean she has her little impulses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not bad, Like it's nothing to do.

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Speaker 2: It's all recoverable.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I just love the way. I remember I told

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Speaker 1: you that side fights were going to be breaking out.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it happened, and it's glorious.

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Speaker 2: No, it's given us a whole new like, so much

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Speaker 2: more to digest because everybody now it's and this is

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Speaker 2: kind of what happens. As you get towards the end

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Speaker 2: of the season, you are over it. You are over it.

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Speaker 2: You no longer have patience for the people that you're

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Speaker 2: spending all of your time. No, because you have to remember,

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Speaker 2: we're seeing one thing, you know, it seems like one

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Speaker 2: thing a day, but really these women are seeing each

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Speaker 2: other three four times a day, having the same conversations.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and in uncomfortable situations, which is why you get

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Speaker 1: the reactions you do. Because it's cold, it's wet, you're tired,

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Speaker 1: you're you know, you're hungry.

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Speaker 2: Katie tells Tamra that she doesn't understand why Shannon can't

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Speaker 2: just sit and talk instead, she gets super emotional. Katie

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Speaker 2: doesn't get why Shannon would get plastic surgery if she

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Speaker 2: was struggling financially to make herself feel better.

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Speaker 1: How about this, There is no wrong time for plastic surgery.

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Speaker 3: Katie.

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Speaker 2: Check in with us in ten years.

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Speaker 1: Katie, one day you will understand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, I just saw you at you need it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, here's my doctor's info. You could do

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Speaker 2: it for a post. Let's teddy. No, Katie does not

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Speaker 2: need anything. Nobody really needs anything. But if you want something.

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Speaker 1: And you make yourself happy.

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Speaker 2: This is your life.

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Speaker 1: If that's what you want to do with your body,

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Speaker 1: you're entitled to do so.

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Speaker 2: But also, I gotta be honest, I don't really give

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Speaker 2: a shit, and it's not my problem how somebody spends

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Speaker 2: their money if they're struggling.

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Speaker 1: Like I'd okay, I was gonna say this was a

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Speaker 1: big topic in both shows, but this one specifically. We

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Speaker 1: have the dress, we have the plastic surgery. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, who are unless you're writing the check for

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Speaker 1: these women's lives, who cares what they do with their money?

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Speaker 2: Would they go flat out bro?

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Speaker 1: It does not. It's not going to impact your life

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Speaker 1: at all. I promise you.

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Speaker 2: I remember us having a conversation with somebody in Beverly

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Speaker 2: Hills and this doesn't ruining. This is years ago after

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Speaker 2: a robbery where we said maybe toned down wearing the

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Speaker 2: labels just because people are going to come after you

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Speaker 2: more if they see it. That I think is the

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Speaker 2: conversation you can have because it's not about financially how

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Speaker 2: much somebody has, but it's about the world we're living

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Speaker 2: in right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is a well I was going to say,

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Speaker 1: you're allowed to wear whatever you want and buy whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. But the crime part of it is that's

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Speaker 1: a different conversation.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. There's a room for that conversation

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Speaker 2: if it's done with love and like a little bit

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Speaker 2: of like we're looking out for you and this or.

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Speaker 1: But I think you have to pick and choose. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is like, look, if we're going to comment on

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Speaker 1: the city we live in with just Los Angeles, where

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Speaker 1: everybody's rolex is getting snatched off, where every house is

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Speaker 1: getting broken into no matter where, whether it's bel Air,

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Speaker 1: you know, Beverly Hills, whatever, that's like. Now you're impinging

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Speaker 1: on people's lifestyles. You can feel like you can't even

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Speaker 1: wear something that you worked hard to pay for. That's

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Speaker 1: not cool, you know.

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Speaker 2: But I also think it's hard when the women keep

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Speaker 2: talking about living beyond their financial means, when we all

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Speaker 2: know that they're also being paid to be on the

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Speaker 2: show and to look a certain way, you have.

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Speaker 1: To look a certain way if you called it in

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Speaker 1: and if I looked on Beverly Hills the way I

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Speaker 1: want to look, which is you've all seen the paparazzi pictures.

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Speaker 1: That's me, but guess what, not on camera?

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Speaker 2: Guess what and if we are for if you are

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Speaker 2: forced to do on camera, you know, because Erica has

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Speaker 2: the big shades, Yeah, you could, like you see this

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Speaker 2: much of your face like it's just and it's not

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Speaker 2: because you're not beautiful without makeup. It's just this is what.

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Speaker 1: Well, my expectation is, Yeah, the expectation of the show,

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Speaker 1: the expectation of the viewers, the expectation like you place

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Speaker 1: on yourself. It's kind of a whole thing. And I

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Speaker 1: know that look is it real? Yeah, it's real? Is

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Speaker 1: my skin was my skin barrier broken and my face

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Speaker 1: was inflamed and I didn't feel comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you see it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Did you watch bet On all on Blonde and see

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Speaker 1: me with no makeup on at the worst time in

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Speaker 1: my life?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I did it. Yeah. I would have.

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Speaker 1: Preferred to maybe have something better, some powder on my face,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't work out that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes it doesn't. But I say, nothing is

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Speaker 2: more relaxing than a spa treatment. Talking about your friend,

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Speaker 2: I thought about our spa treatment realm.

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Speaker 1: I was so hungover.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just spa treatments on these shows in general,

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Speaker 2: unless it's a foot massage. I like, yeah, they're not relaxing.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, the one thing that's wonderful about being on

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Speaker 1: a show like Orange County or Beverly Hills like we were,

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Speaker 1: so we get to go and do all of these

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Speaker 1: cool things in all these beautiful places that, having been.

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Speaker 2: Said, you don't get to enjoy them.

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Speaker 1: We don't get to enjoy them like you would if

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Speaker 1: you weren't involved in, you know, telling a story. And

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Speaker 1: so it's almost like I remember you and I being

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Speaker 1: at the girlon Spot and I mean, no, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: that wasn't girlng We were in Rome. Gosh what spot?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, it was beautiful and we couldn't we couldn't

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Speaker 2: We couldn't enjoy one moment of it, and no one

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Speaker 2: else didn't make me enjoy one moment of it when

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Speaker 2: they took a picture of my face and then blew

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Speaker 2: it up like every single poor like, uh, thank you, yes, thanks,

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Speaker 2: we really appreciate that, thank you for that. But then

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Speaker 2: we start to see things unraveled a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's so good.

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Speaker 2: Gina tells Jen that Shannon showed her the with Alexis

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Speaker 2: from twenty eighteen about her and Jim suing Shannon and Tamra.

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Speaker 2: Gina can't believe Tarma knows Shannon is telling the truth,

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Speaker 2: but A tacks her for lying.

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Speaker 1: Ooh see, because there's ten years of backstory or more

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Speaker 1: that you don't take into consideration at that point and.

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Speaker 2: At this point have helped me because my memory isn't

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Speaker 2: great on this. Do we know that Tamra and Shannon

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Speaker 2: have spoken about this since those original texts? Because I

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Speaker 2: don't imagine Tamara has text from twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. If Shannon has them, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure she had them. I'm sure Tama had them at

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Speaker 1: one point also too, if you're asking me something about

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Speaker 1: six years ago, I may or may not. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: which part right?

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Speaker 2: I would have to check with one of you guys,

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Speaker 2: like we will send sometimes texts and be like hey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but if you show someone okay, So, if

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Speaker 1: Tamra doesn't have the text from Alexis right from twenty eighteen, yeah,

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Only Shannon got the text because Alexis had

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Speaker 1: Shannon's number, I could see where Tama would forget it.

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Speaker 1: The exact verbiage of what was said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also am confused why Alexis had Shannon's

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Speaker 2: number but not Tamra's when Alexis and Tarma were on

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Speaker 2: the show for many years together and Shannon and Alexis

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Speaker 2: were never.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, sometimes people don't have each other's numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sometimes people change their numbers. That's right.

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Speaker 2: But can we talk a minute about how fans wanted

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Speaker 2: Gina fired and now she's the central force between everyone

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Speaker 2: and the women's she's really good, she does a great job.

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Speaker 2: She's doing a good job, doing a good job. Then

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Speaker 2: Shannon said she made it. Okay, this is this is

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Speaker 1: This is where I get bogged down into the minutia

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Speaker 1: of what happened, and here here we go, Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: really good at this.

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Speaker 2: Well I wouldn't say I'm really good at this, but

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Speaker 2: at this point, I'm starting to get a exhausted by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and it's okay.

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Speaker 2: But Shannon said she made it clear to Heather and

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Speaker 1: Them, and they flashed back by and that is true.

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Speaker 2: She did say that.

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Speaker 1: She did say that, and Heather said, okay, I will

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Speaker 1: not bring it to the group to the group.

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Speaker 2: Which is code for I'm not going to share it

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Speaker 2: with other people on camera, even though you're sharing it

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Speaker 2: with me on care right. But in that same token,

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Speaker 2: once you say it on camera, it's already freaking out there.

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Speaker 2: So you can play both sides.

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Speaker 1: You can like, but you also but you wouldn't because

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Speaker 1: you have the the time. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You have time for it to come out later, So

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Speaker 1: it's right, That's how I would do it.

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Speaker 2: But then Heather says, this is what happened last year.

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Speaker 2: Shannon already put it out there.

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Speaker 1: That's true too. Yeah, that's true too. And sometimes when

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Speaker 1: you're shooting these shows, you have to remember some things

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Speaker 1: have already been discussed and are possibly out in the press.

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Speaker 1: So am I saying it? No, it's already been said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that you know, at this point,

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Speaker 2: Shannon is correct. She chose the wrong person to share

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Speaker 2: that information with. Possibly, I do I think that Heather

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Speaker 2: was doing something that nine out of Otherton Housewives wouldn't. No, No,

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Speaker 2: But I also wonder why she chose I've never seen

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Speaker 2: Heather and Shannon be super close, Like why that would

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Speaker 2: be the person she can find it in.

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Speaker 1: You never know why someone tells someone that's kind of

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Speaker 1: you just don't know. I mean, you would hope that

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Speaker 1: it was genuine. Hey, I felt like I could really

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Speaker 1: tell you this, but it maybe it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe you're stuck and you don't feel close to anyone.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying below hanging fruit.

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Speaker 1: Well, you pick somebody that's neutral enough to where it's

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Speaker 1: not going to blow up in your face but surprise.

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Speaker 2: Surprise, or someone that normally doesn't cause drama, right but

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Speaker 2: today they did. Today they did. Heather says if she

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Speaker 2: pays John, it all dies away. Shannon Shannon grabs a

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Speaker 2: notebook page with expenses with John during their first six

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Speaker 2: months of their relationship.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. When I was younger, I had

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Speaker 2: by what how far we went? That's completely different.

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Speaker 1: We're talking finances starmys kids. I'm scar means, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: You mean you haven't gotten a chippy. Chippy is like

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Speaker 1: I did not know this. Well, I usually just get

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Speaker 2: AnyWho she has gone through. But my question is did

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what it looks like, or or did she

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Speaker 1: Do you write it down like I took John to

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even need to see an Excel

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, and it looked like it was all rather

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Speaker 1: You took a comfort or an ex.

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Speaker 2: You know what? No, who else does these kind of

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Speaker 2: things that really bugs me. I'm not naming a specific person,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, go, fuck all, you know how I like

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Speaker 1: You get it next time, Renna has it, next time,

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Speaker 1: Like that to me is where do we want to go? Okay,

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Speaker 1: well I'll go here. That is fair and that all working.

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Speaker 1: We have enough split the fucking check.

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Speaker 2: And if you must split it like I can't.

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Speaker 1: Also when you're younger, not as I'm too old to

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Speaker 2: It brings me back to like when I worked at

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Speaker 2: mister Chow and Cia in the mailroom, and I'd be like, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't have anything. I have enough money I could,

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Speaker 1: I can't have a meal. Yes, I cannot have a meal.

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Speaker 2: But it also like, you know, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Okay, I agree with that. If you go down this

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Speaker 2: Then you have to stop taking note about it. And

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna Sadly, it's not gonna be tipped for tat.

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Speaker 2: I paid sixty thousand in our first six months of

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Speaker 2: our relationship. Now you need to pay seventy thousand for

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Speaker 2: my neck. Like it doesn't it just doesn't work like that, No,

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Speaker 2: But I also want to be like, who does your

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Speaker 2: like taxes and stuff like somebody could have at least

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, like, hey, you spent this much money, but

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Speaker 2: Money do you think Shannon would have spent without John?

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Speaker 2: You know, like, I don't know what it's all in

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Speaker 1: You had her go off and I had fish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyways, then Gina tells Jen that she heard

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for Jen in this moment. I just do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I just do.

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Speaker 1: Let the fucking girl wear whatever dress she wants. You, guys,

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Speaker 1: if she goes broke, if she marries this man, that's

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Speaker 2: She's making these choices. And clearly you can tell when

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Speaker 2: Jen is talking, she's not a hundred and this This

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Speaker 2: percent confident all of the time. That is human nature.

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Speaker 1: I feel it too, But I can feel feel her

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Speaker 2: Feels she I don't think we've gotten to see the

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Speaker 2: And I liked that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think she's always stifled herself. She seems

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Speaker 4: like a sweet girl woman. Excuse me, And I feel

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Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and she looked cute in her dress. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, honey, if you want to buy live

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Speaker 2: Know what her dress reminded me of. Tell me Ji's

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Speaker 1: You know what next?

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Speaker 2: Next? Whatever? This is?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what? Uh, Katie, not the Lemit, the

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Speaker 2: I'm shower in a living room with Brandy Glanville showing off.

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Speaker 2: It's a dream for the Capri Room. Sometimes I drive

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Speaker 2: bless that. And then all the baby things hanging. I

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Speaker 2: love that. I was like, we're gonna do your baby

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Speaker 2: I had a surprise and booking a fucking puppo surprise.

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Speaker 1: I was like, it was a real surprise, and I

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Speaker 2: We're like, excuse me, can you pass them onto row sticks?

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Speaker 2: You know what's bad? As your friends were there, but

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Speaker 1: We couldn't talk to Teddy's friends because we had important bist.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, Brandy's here, Can you all leave? Can you

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Speaker 2: all leave?

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Speaker 1: Parties over? Thanks for coming to the Capri room for

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Speaker 2: Half of my friends couldn't even come to like, we

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Speaker 2: at eight a Tuesday on camera to see you. This

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Speaker 1: Fucking I cannot lives that.

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Speaker 2: Katie tells Tamra that Jen called her the morning of

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Speaker 2: attention to detail here. She could get multiple uses out

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'll be honest with you, guys.

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Speaker 2: But you're lying to yourself because you're not going to

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Speaker 2: do damn it, I'm going to I think like, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to get multiple use you do.

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Speaker 2: I've seen you do it. Well. What ends up happening,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think she can wear the dress again,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then Tarma is confused by what's going on

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Slate's horse show. And yeah, they want

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Speaker 1: Guys, you know, like you know how you could set

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, The loss of control of my finances is

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Speaker 1: Over. I'm like, okay, well I'll carve out a little

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Speaker 2: Also, I don't like losing. And if I'm not going

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Speaker 1: Something, well, it's not that you always have to go

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Speaker 2: Well I can do that if it's like sushi.

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Speaker 1: And right exactly and good right, listen, some people love

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Speaker 2: You're not one of them. Ben, Gina says the whole

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Speaker 1: But hold on, how does she not get it? I

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Speaker 1: I'll set it. She set it up and nobody and

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Speaker 2: In to check in on somebody. If we both go

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Speaker 2: how did it go? And I tell you? And then

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Speaker 1: Yes, Heather's wealthier than all of you. So just that's

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Speaker 2: And she's going to let you know from time to time.

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Speaker 2: So what, but you should still check in on how

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Speaker 1: Even if she's listen, wealthear wealthy look. Money doesn't take

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Speaker 1: doesn't solve everything.

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00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 2: It can't help medical.

438
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: No, it really can't. And anyway, No, you might get

439
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: better medical.

440
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: Treatmentment, but the fear that's surrounding is not a diagnosis

441
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: does not change. No, it does not. Then Jin confronts

442
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: Heather and asks her if her dress I can't even

443
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: just talking about again. Jen confronts Heather, and.

444
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 1: She's only getting six thousand. The dress was too I

445
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: was worried about you.

446
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: I was so I mean, Heather, at this point, just

447
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: say I was being a shady asshole. Just say you know,

448
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: I was wondering how you could afford it, yeah, or

449
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: just say like you know what I think until you

450
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: make more money, like I don't even I don't even

451
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: know what she should have said.

452
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: But saying that I was worried about you, yeah, is

453
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: not what it's I mean, it's cute, but it's not true.

454
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: You may need to curate like a better, more believable.

455
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: Like nobody ship talks because they're worried because they want to.

456
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: You should talk because we're.

457
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: You only got five grand that dresses too? What are

458
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: you going to do with the rest?

459
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Are you eighty seven kids? And right? Are you sure

460
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: that's where you want to do?

461
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm just asking, you know, I'm just checking in, Teddy.

462
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: Would you like Shannon to do your books? She's got

463
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: some Nope, spiral.

464
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: Very interesting way of accounting for very specific things. I

465
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: had a steak.

466
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: Jeout dollar dress can be worn again.

467
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: At the Caprie Room.

468
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: Jen, you want to meet us at the Capri Room.

469
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: You can wear the dress, then I'll change into it.

470
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: We'll both take pics.

471
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: Yes, sure, it looks probably cute on you too. You

472
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: know what, then you know what you can do? Honey,

473
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: put that dress on consignment. I'm sure there's somewhere out

474
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: there in oc make some money back on the dress.

475
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: Oh.

476
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: They've already gotten into a lot of conversations about selling

477
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: clothes out of the garage though, and buying fake clothes.

478
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: This is she She was accused of buying fake clothes.

479
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: I have a I have a story to tell. So

480
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm friends with these designers. I'm not gonna say who

481
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: they are, but they're really cool and they're very wealthy,

482
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: and we like you know, have lunch whenever they're in

483
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: town from Europe. And you know what they said to me.

484
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: You know a lot of women wear fakes things on

485
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: these shows. And I was like really, and they're like,

486
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, because we can tell. And I was like, well,

487
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: it's not me. You're like, it's not me, and they

488
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: were like no, no, no, but they can tell. Like

489
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: just say, you know, if you think you're pulling one off,

490
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: you're not.

491
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: You're not pulling one off. And also if it's gonna be.

492
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Fake, like I am, okay, just say you got it

493
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: on dh gate and keep it pushing.

494
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it on dh Yes said I got

495
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: a dupe. I got dupe sunglasses from Amazon. Tap my

496
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: link on LTK and make me some money. Do you

497
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: have one on ltk? Oh? I do? Do you not?

498
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: You know what is going on with me?

499
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: Get yourself together? I'm sorry, gather yourself I shall god.

500
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: Shannon brings up the text from Alexis to Tamara. Shannon

501
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: tells Tamara she has a big ego, and Tama says

502
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: she's not the one with such a big ego that

503
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: she wouldn't pay seventy five thousand because she doesn't want

504
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: to look bad. Tamara raises her hand in Shannon's face

505
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: oh and says she is done. I know, not once,

506
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: but twice. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah.

507
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: Too much, too much, too much, too much, too much

508
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: from Tamara. We love Tamar because she's spicy. And what

509
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: happens is when you go past the mark. Yeah, you

510
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: get when you go past the mark, you know you've

511
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: hit your mark. When you keep doing that, then it

512
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: turns from spicy and sassy to.

513
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: Because then it's hard because even though a lot of

514
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: what she might be saying could be accurate, it's lost

515
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: in the tone.

516
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Well, now it comes about her in this case, Tamra,

517
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: instead of what she said, yeah, and that that's the problem.

518
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: But then this is all At this point, you're like,

519
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: this is why I hate when it's somebody's trip, because

520
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: now Shannon gets to keep saying this is my trip,

521
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 2: this is my birthday, and then everybody's going after everybody.

522
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: But it is fun for me to watch.

523
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 2: I'm But then they then all of the other ladies

524
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: that are in relationships thought it would be a good idea.

525
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: Well, I hold on before you say this, to call

526
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: their spouses. If we were on Beverly Hills. We wouldn't

527
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: have anybody to call. We're all single.

528
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: Who would you text me? Maybe?

529
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I have a you know I might.

530
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm naked. I excuse me?

531
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Like this?

532
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: Shut up? I join?

533
00:26:48,680 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 3: Do you draw only fans.

534
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: Anyways? They right? I am naked, Eddie says. All of

535
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: the husbands are significant other's responses. Eddie says in class,

536
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: if you'd like to use your imagination, I love him.

537
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: He's sweet.

538
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: And Bryan, this was so cute. Is this for me?

539
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: Or did you meet someone at the bar?

540
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: Laugh? That was very clever, Ryan, very cute. Katie's husband's

541
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: on the golf course, Tom, are you with me?

542
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: Are you going to respond? And I can't. I can't.

543
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: We can't have your phone on the golf course. Everybody

544
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: knows that you're not allowed to have your phone. You

545
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: get kicked out of the club.

546
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: So, but Katie, go ahead and let us know if

547
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: he ever responded, and what did he say?

548
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: This is also cute. Travis, give me fifteen seconds. I

549
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: will probably finish.

550
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: Just as quickly. I just want to expectation.

551
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cute.

552
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: I like a funny response. Then Emily says, the game

553
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: was not made to make.

554
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Come on, nobody was trying to make Shannon feel bad.

555
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: It is no big deal. I mean, come on, if

556
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: you're getting upset over that after all these other things. Really,

557
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: And then somebody said, text Archie the Dog.

558
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: But you know what, I want to.

559
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: Text Thiago because he was my best friend.

560
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: You're like, I want him to text back, right?

561
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: I do I give anything for Thiago to text back

562
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: right now?

563
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, if I texted Edwin I was, he'd probably respond,

564
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: we'll put some clothes on.

565
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, ed Way to drop the ball.

566
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: No, he would probably like it, but I probably would

567
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: decent news no, rat.

568
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you morally opposed?

569
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: No, I'm not morally opposed. I just like I feel

570
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: as though if it got out there, if I thought

571
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: that it was a quality nude that's what I was

572
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: going to say, then I maybe would do it. Like

573
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I was nude on a billboard in New

574
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: York for the melanoma reason. It's not that I'm opposed

575
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: to being news.

576
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: You just want the right look.

577
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't want to be thrown. I've seen

578
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: some really unfortunate raw.

579
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: Very sort of yeah, and I just don't want my

580
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: picture getting out there.

581
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

582
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna do that, it needs to

583
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: be smooth and pretty and you feel good about it.

584
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: Then Shannon reads a text from tam Off to Jen

585
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty two. Someone sent Tamra's stuff about Ryan,

586
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: and tamer said, I'm asking my friend's husband if he

587
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: can do a background check. She then texted evidence of

588
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: the background check. Jen says it's weird and obsessive, and

589
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: Jen says she uses their lives to make her life

590
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: relevant since it's boring. Jen would rather have a little

591
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: bank account, kids who love her, and a man who

592
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: supports her than Tarama's life. First question, this isn't in

593
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: defense of Tamra, but why is Shannon bringing something up

594
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: text from two years ago?

595
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: Well, it's clearer that Shannon and Tamor are at each

596
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: other's throats, it gets worse, and that's you know, this

597
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: is where the friendship starts to unravel. And also too,

598
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: when you've been on a show, you have a certain

599
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: amount of trust with your castmates or your friends, and

600
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: then you start to see that ship away, and that

601
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: is something that's.

602
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: Like, why are you doing this right?

603
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: I would really have to wonder, why is this happening?

604
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's when you're at like complete

605
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: wits end. But I think, I mean, I was only

606
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: on three years, but I think I had a after

607
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: my first year, I had a pretty good gathering on

608
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: the people. I could tell who my secrets to sure

609
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: and who I.

610
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it look as long as they've been

611
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: on Orange County together, they know a lot about each other,

612
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Tamra and Shannon. That's why this fight going in is

613
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: really interesting to me, because you can I can't, and

614
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can too, see all of the unsaid things.

615
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: I can feel them all because when you're watching these shows,

616
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: you guys can assume, but we know what's not being said.

617
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's not being said? And people are often I mean,

618
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: I gotta be really honest. A friend of mine the

619
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: other day texted me that her boyfriend was texting somebody else,

620
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: and I said, she goes, I don't know who it is.

621
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: And I said, well, what's the phone number? Did you

622
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: offer your services? I did, and I found out the

623
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: answer in fifteen seconds.

624
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Was it a bad answer?

625
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: I had to pay one dollar ninety nine cents for it,

626
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: but I found out who it was. So I don't

627
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: know if that means that I'm an asshole, but like,

628
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm happy. So if Jen and Tamra were friends or

629
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, you want to get somebody away

630
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: from a bad guy, I'm not opposed to it, spending

631
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: a dollar ninety nine to do a little check either way,

632
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: I think, you know what, we would be silly to

633
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: think that both Tamra and Shannon weren't both discussing.

634
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: They're both doing it. They're both discussing it, and we

635
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: all know it. The audience knows it, the girls know it,

636
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: they know it. It's it's what happens on these shows. Unfortunately.

637
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: I will say this. I want to say one thing

638
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: about that. It's to a level of degree as to

639
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: who you're dealing with and how much you need to know.

640
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: You think you need to know about someone.

641
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: Right, And most of the time, like on Beverly Hills

642
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: for example, that may be talked about, but then nobody

643
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: actually really carries it out. Yeah. See, they go a

644
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: little bit more ham and I.

645
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Say that they do. It's a it's a tougher crowd

646
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: down in Orange County.

647
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think a lot of them have I

648
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: think in Beverly Hills there's a certain level of like, well,

649
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: I think professionalism you're trying to uphold.

650
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: Of course, you know why, because their consequences outside of it.

651
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then yeah, these women don't play like that. Yeah. No,

652
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: they're like, fuck, this is it, this is our money maker.

653
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: We're going for it.

654
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: In Beverly Hills. You know, you're thinking about a lot

655
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: of different things at one time.

656
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Speaker 2: In Beverly Hills, we think twice before texting about background checks.

657
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Speaker 2: We speak in persons, right, pick up the phone. Then

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Speaker 2: Jen knocks on Tarmra's door and confronts her about doing

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Speaker 2: the background I love it, I love it. I love

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Speaker 2: to see Jen.

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Speaker 1: I love to see her like this, her abs, which

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Speaker 1: I was noticing before someone said anything. By the way,

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Speaker 1: your abs look great. You look adorable, and I was

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Speaker 1: so happy to see you stick up for yourself, Jen,

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Speaker 1: Good for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Tamra says she clapsed because tam well,

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Speaker 2: I have a passive aggressive tid. It's very passive aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Tama was being very passive aggressive and very sort of like, okay,

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Speaker 1: here you go, kiddo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the day four the trip you're over

671
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Speaker 2: it you're done.

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Speaker 1: I saw someone who's very experienced, was very experienced, and

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Speaker 1: I loved Heather. Wait, Heather's glam went from wet to

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Speaker 1: like almost completely blown dry. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: noticed it.

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Speaker 2: I did because I was thinking, this fight has gone

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00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: on for a long time.

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00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: And but then Heather's Heather's head was wet, and then

679
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Heather's blow dry was completely done and like.

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Speaker 2: And then I kept thinking, you know, Tamara is so

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00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: probably annoyed that they came in while her lips were

682
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Speaker 2: still the same color as her, like she was early,

683
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Speaker 2: and her makeup artists had to stop. It's really good.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is but this is why Why

685
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: do people get so mad at a scene like this

686
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Speaker 2: when this is what we watched for.

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Speaker 1: This is what's really happening. If you want authenticity, this

688
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: is what's happening. Yes, I'm trying to get ready for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Someone busts in my room

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00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 1: starts cussing me out, and I look and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know it is what it is. Then, by

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Speaker 1: the way, everybody had glam, So I'm so tired. Don't

693
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: talk to me about Glenn.

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Speaker 2: But I have to say, you're to blame for that.

695
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, you know what you were though, because before

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00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 2: you no one did it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I that's fine. I take full credit for

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00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: raising the bar. I said what I said as a.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: Any Cohen said it too.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, step your pussy up if you want to

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Speaker 1: fuck with me.

704
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: Well here's the problem. Now we all go broke buying

705
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: Buka to Beppo dresses, trying to level up with it.

706
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: But you don't have to buy full designer all the time.

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Speaker 1: Even I don't do that.

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Speaker 2: But I think here's the problem. Not everyone likes that.

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00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Well no, not everyone has the ability to create looks

710
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Speaker 2: and I what I don't like is watch a housewife

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Speaker 2: like myself trying to create a persona that I don't

712
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Speaker 2: naturally have. That is something you thrive on. You love it.

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00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: It's artistic, like it was who I was before I

714
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: joined the show, right, but now every housewife is trying

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00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: to do it. Well, you know what I said. Well,

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: how I think of it is everybody needs to find

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Speaker 1: how they feel comfortable. If you feel comfortable that way,

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00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: and you you really are embracing whatever way you want

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Speaker 1: to express yourself, do that. This is how I choose

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you did set the bar well not I

722
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: hate to give a compliment, but you did. But up yeah,

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Speaker 2: slip out. Sometimes Jen tells Heather that the only reason

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00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: Tarmor is friends with Heather is because she is in

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Speaker 2: front of her right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that Tamra knows who Heather is and Heather

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00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: knows who Tamor is. So Gina is not actually giving

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Speaker 1: Pearls a wisdom here whatever.

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Speaker 2: See, that's not much I can Yeah, you're like, I know,

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00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: but we in this moment, I do think we have

731
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Speaker 2: to bring levity to the fact that we're talking about

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00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: two text messages, one that happened in twenty eighteen and

733
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Speaker 2: one that happened two years ago, and that's what these

734
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Speaker 2: women are having to go off of right now.

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Speaker 1: And it's but it's fascinating to me. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a good time on this trip so far.

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Speaker 2: Something that I do want to say about the pod

738
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Speaker 2: regardless is yes, some of the women on all of

739
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: the different franchise franchises are my friends, so of course

740
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to be biased. But that is why there's

741
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: another person on the pod with me to give their

742
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: opinions as well. Yes, and that's why you're watching, to

743
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Speaker 2: take your own opinions and.

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00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: Their own opinions right, and then you can come in

745
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: the comments and argue yeah.

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Speaker 2: And who doesn't have a friend that's going to have

747
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: their back in some capacity even when they are wrong.

748
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Speaker 1: Even when they are wrong. The thing is that I

749
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: think people just want to be like, hey, I didn't

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Speaker 1: agree with that.

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Speaker 2: And you know what we all do.

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Speaker 1: All of our friends make decisions that you're like.

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Speaker 2: Mhm, yeah, and you see it and you're like shit,

754
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: But they know it too. Sometimes they pretend they don't

755
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 2: know it, but everybody knows that. We see ourselves.

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00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: Well, we do. Definitely, you and I these worriers, I

757
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to say everybody else is

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00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: self aware. I'm not going to give that through it.

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00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: Listen, let's not throw that out there. Let's not throw

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00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: that out there. Wait till you see us. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 2: thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of

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Speaker 2: to Teas and a Pod with myself and Erica. I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the trip. Thanks for listening. See us in London. Bye,