Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. Okay, KB,
Speaker 1: did you hear?
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you're in country music, so you're gonna
Speaker 2: see the headline. Bunny XO addresses divorce from jelly Roll
Speaker 2: on her podcast Did you listen to?
Speaker 1: Because I listened to pieces of the podcast I did
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: I hate saying because I don't like it when people
Speaker 2: just listen to pieces of our podcast, because I feel
Speaker 2: like you have to listen to the whole context. But
Speaker 2: there were so many things that I didn't I did
Speaker 2: go into the comments when I found out that when
Speaker 2: I saw the breaking headline that they were getting divorced,
Speaker 2: and people were like, oh, it's because he's getting sued,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is happening now?
Speaker 3: There's so many parts of this. I had no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I started to kind of do a little
Speaker 2: deep dive when I was trying to go to sleep
Speaker 2: the other day. And I'm honestly confused by the situation.
Speaker 2: But what I will say something that came up because
Speaker 2: I want to hear your thoughts on it. But she
Speaker 2: had She admitted that she told jelly Roll to file
Speaker 2: for divorce out of anger and frustration, not because she
Speaker 2: truly wanted their relationship to end. And I know someone
Speaker 2: that that happened to where she said, like fine, file
Speaker 2: for divorce, and then the person ended up filing for
Speaker 2: divorce and then it was that like blindside of I
Speaker 2: can't believe he actually did it. And you know, for
Speaker 2: for Alan and I, the D word is like it's
Speaker 2: out of the vocabulary, like we can't we can't have
Speaker 2: it because I'm I'm how do I say this? There's
Speaker 2: a piece of me that if he's says it, I'll
Speaker 2: be like fine, Like because if I'm angry enough in
Speaker 2: a situation, even if it's not what I want, like
Speaker 2: I could. I don't think at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: I would ever. But like when you are that angry
Speaker 2: and someone's like file for divorce, I find it so
Speaker 2: disrespectful that it's almost like yeah, all right, fine, you know,
Speaker 2: and I I just think it's such a dus And
Speaker 2: I'll say this. The reason that it's like a no
Speaker 2: go and no saying it is because in my last
Speaker 2: relationship we said it. I said it so many times,
Speaker 2: but then like didn't follow up on it. And I
Speaker 2: think it's like a it's a trigger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because to me, so we never once
Speaker 4: have we ever in our marriage and and I would agree.
Speaker 4: I remember the one time when I was young where
Speaker 4: my dad said it to my mom. I can remember
Speaker 4: in the moment listen, so tumultuous, so many heightened emotions
Speaker 4: all of the time growing up, but I remember that
Speaker 4: one time, like I could go back there in my
Speaker 4: brain in a second, because to me, they it was
Speaker 4: like they were always going to be together. So I'm
Speaker 4: such a We do not do the D word ever.
Speaker 4: I mean even in the height of like marital heartbreak
Speaker 4: in our marriage.
Speaker 3: And that's not even anything juicy.
Speaker 4: It's just that this industry, and this is why I
Speaker 4: think I feel for both of them so much, because
Speaker 4: this industry is just hard.
Speaker 3: It's hard to have a connection in. I mean, we
Speaker 3: go through that.
Speaker 4: We're in the height of that for our marriage right now,
Speaker 4: because it's summer, right like you have to be so
Speaker 4: we have to be so diligent and so intentional about
Speaker 4: connecting with each other because he's rarely here. So the
Speaker 4: D word is one hundred percent off the table in
Speaker 4: our home.
Speaker 3: But more so, I think what.
Speaker 4: I hate is that they ever got to a heightened
Speaker 4: place where it felt like that was all that was
Speaker 4: left to say, right, And and for me, it's such
Speaker 4: a like if I was to ever say it, or
Speaker 4: he was to ever say it to me, it's like
Speaker 4: the start of disrespecting the marriage. Yeah, and it like
Speaker 4: being an option, right.
Speaker 2: And like my childhood wounds is like abandonment. So like
Speaker 2: if he was to say that it hit, it would
Speaker 2: hit such an abandonment wound in me that I would
Speaker 2: then start to feel unsafe. And so that's where it's
Speaker 2: like we that like we we just we no matter
Speaker 2: how angry we will, we will ever get we cannot
Speaker 2: say that because it hits. And it's hard because some
Speaker 2: he might be an escapist who wants to just escape
Speaker 2: right when he's wounded and he's triggered. But like, you know,
Speaker 2: I just think being able to not use that say
Speaker 2: those words is so important. And I mean because look,
Speaker 2: in this instance, she's saying I didn't actually want to,
Speaker 2: but that's what came out and then he did. And
Speaker 2: then that to me is like whiplash, you know, right,
Speaker 2: because it's like.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, never mind, I don't want it. That's
Speaker 1: not what I wanted, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you also want to know that you can in
Speaker 3: a marriage.
Speaker 4: You and I both sure know you want to be
Speaker 4: able to be able to say, like, marriage is not easy,
Speaker 4: and you have to know that you're fighting for each
Speaker 4: other and with each other all of the time, and
Speaker 4: sometimes someone might carry a little more weight in the
Speaker 4: fighting and some may not but than the other one.
Speaker 4: But I feel like, specifically for like the.
Speaker 3: Way you and I are wired, like I.
Speaker 4: Need to know that, like this can get really freaking
Speaker 4: hard and you're not going to bail.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting because she said in passing that he's
Speaker 2: already dating since they're split, So to me, that feels
Speaker 2: like he was already one foot out. Like if you're
Speaker 2: that fast moved on from just divorce it or just
Speaker 2: filing in May, that then makes me go, okay, well
Speaker 2: then he was ready.
Speaker 3: I didn't know there was infidelity too, didn't he?
Speaker 1: She downe her years ago.
Speaker 4: I think the latest was twenty Maybe she just said
Speaker 4: it in twenty twenty five, because.
Speaker 2: From my understanding was that it happened like way before
Speaker 2: the record deal, way before all of that.
Speaker 3: I want to get clarification. I did. I felt like
Speaker 3: it was maybe they just talked about it last year.
Speaker 2: That could be court, but they're still expecting a baby
Speaker 2: via surrogate and planned a co parent.
Speaker 3: I'm confused.
Speaker 1: Could you do that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I mean, here's what I'll say, And I felt this way.
Speaker 4: I felt this a way a lot about you and Mike.
Speaker 4: Remember I kept saying to you guys, I think you'll
Speaker 4: just be better. I think you guys will end up
Speaker 4: being really good friends, really good co parents. Well no,
Speaker 4: I just said you would be better off as friends.
Speaker 2: Like I felt like with yes, yes, valid, valid, Yeah, the.
Speaker 4: Way that you guys operated, you had you had this
Speaker 4: kind of like unspoken enough respect for each other. I
Speaker 4: know we're going to go loosely on that one. We
Speaker 4: don't need a deep dive, but Jianna squints for those
Speaker 4: of you that won't see.
Speaker 3: The clip of that. But I just feel like you
Speaker 3: guys would be better.
Speaker 2: There's no more respect on the co parent side of
Speaker 2: things than our yes.
Speaker 4: Right right, Like, I just there was something about the
Speaker 4: way you connected that was obviously to me.
Speaker 2: It was you stop tiptoeing, just go we don't want
Speaker 2: to tiptoeing.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I feel like for them, that's what I
Speaker 4: hear out of her but I also hear out of
Speaker 4: her the fact that she didn't really even want this
Speaker 4: in the first place. So I think all of this
Speaker 4: feels like a really beautiful idea right now, but what
Speaker 4: will that look like when it actually happens is probably
Speaker 4: my biggest fear, because I think the co parenting and
Speaker 4: the having I mean, he speaks of him so highly.
Speaker 4: Her words about him was so precious, like, but then
Speaker 4: what happens when there's a baby.
Speaker 2: Well, and another relationship and somebody else in there, you know,
Speaker 2: someone else that might be raising the baby with her.
Speaker 2: I mean, it can That's the part that to me,
Speaker 2: I think would be hard, complicated and fast complicated. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it does make me again, I just want everyone
Speaker 2: to be happy. I always I get sad and excited
Speaker 2: for people when they get divorced. You know, It's like,
Speaker 2: I'm sad because I know the heartbreak, but I'm happy
Speaker 2: because they're going to get what they really truly deserve
Speaker 2: and the love and the happiness and the freedom.
Speaker 3: And the and Yeah.
Speaker 4: But even what you know, even what Jelly Rul said
Speaker 4: on stage, he just recently spoke about it at a
Speaker 4: com I saw that, yeah, and he just was so
Speaker 4: also so kind and so mutual respect about it, and
Speaker 4: like there's nothing to know and this isn't dramatic and.
Speaker 2: Do you understand the lossit thing though, because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't and I'd just be rumors too, which is
Speaker 2: so I don't want to speak to it if it
Speaker 2: is enough to speak on that.
Speaker 4: But well, the bigger you get, right, the bigger the platform,
Speaker 4: the bigger the problems, the bigger the noise. And I
Speaker 4: feel like they have seen each other through so many
Speaker 4: wild years.
Speaker 1: M h.
Speaker 4: I think I just feel sad because I'm so rooting
Speaker 4: for them because of their story that I don't want
Speaker 4: any marriage to end, but specifically when they can be
Speaker 4: so remember when Kat and Nick.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get divorced for a minute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the way they spoke about each other was
Speaker 4: so sweet and so profound that I was like, I
Speaker 4: just don't think this is gonna happen. I have that
Speaker 4: secret tucked away prayer. I know it's probably ridiculous and
Speaker 4: probably too far, but to have the mutual admiration they
Speaker 4: have for each other is just really special.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you and Hathaway.
Speaker 2: She's focused on family, preparing for baby number three and
Speaker 2: all I'll say to this is when she's forty three
Speaker 2: years old. The first thought was I can still have
Speaker 2: a baby, Like I was like, maybe I can have that.
Speaker 1: I always had that pull to have one more?
Speaker 3: Would you do it?
Speaker 1: Well? She gives me hope.
Speaker 3: All say she does and she has a big gap too.
Speaker 2: There needs to be go time right now, log off
Speaker 2: this podcast.
Speaker 3: We've gotver to do.
Speaker 4: I just feel like, I'll say, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 4: I have a girlfriend of mine who just had a
Speaker 4: baby at forty five, and I had that same feeling.
Speaker 4: I will say, coming into the half the forty four
Speaker 4: and a half, I feel now like I can say
Speaker 4: the ship is sailed for sure. But it is kind
Speaker 4: of wild that we get to have It's really sweet
Speaker 4: to me that we get to have these opportunities to even
Speaker 4: think about it in our forties, because I didn't, you know,
Speaker 4: like I was forty one when I had the baby,
Speaker 4: and I wouldn't think that another round was even an
Speaker 4: option for us. So it's really you're creamer. You could
Speaker 4: sneak another one in before like forty four for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, on that note, let's.
Speaker 3: Nothing to see here, friends, Dabower.
Speaker 1: Week's episode of Headlines. One day, maybe we'll be back
Speaker 1: in there. Oye oh yoi oh I love you, See
Speaker 1: you next week.
Speaker 3: Bye friend.