Speaker 1: How Wow, with Gianno called well, part of the gig which,
Speaker 1: make no mistake, cancel culture is on the march. Say
Speaker 1: the wrong thing and you might just get canceled yourself.
Speaker 1: Today I talked to a Trump supporter in Hollywood who
Speaker 1: knows all about the cultural assault on conservatives. This is
Speaker 1: Outlied with Gianno called loco. Welcome back to Outline with
Speaker 1: Gianno called well, I've got a great show for you today.
Speaker 1: My guest is a rarity, a Hollywood actor who actually
Speaker 1: endorsed Donald Trump for president. I'm talking about Dean Kane,
Speaker 1: an accomplished actor, producer, TV host, and former football player. Yes,
Speaker 1: the man can do it all. Dean is perhaps best
Speaker 1: known for planning Superman in the TV series Lewis and
Speaker 1: Clark The New Adventures of Superman. He also hosted Ripley's
Speaker 1: Believe It or Not, and it's currently working on a
Speaker 1: host of projects that we'll get into. But perhaps more
Speaker 1: than anything, Dean is a free thinker, unafraid to express
Speaker 1: his opinions even in a hostile environment. And that's where
Speaker 1: I want to focus on our conversation. Let's go Dan
Speaker 1: Gange Welcome to Allow with Gianno calls well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming on today. I'm honored to be here. Gianno,
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since we've actually had a
Speaker 1: chance to have a conversation too, so I'm always happy
Speaker 1: to do So that's that's right. And I haven't seen
Speaker 1: you in so long because we've not been around the
Speaker 1: l A Bureau. The Fox News has been closed down
Speaker 1: since the start of the pandemic, and we're operating out
Speaker 1: of our homes these days, so it's it's really tough,
Speaker 1: but I do miss my friends. But what you don't
Speaker 1: know is I moved to Miami in the l A shutdown,
Speaker 1: where there was freedom. This is the best state in
Speaker 1: the country right now. Yeah, I hear wonderful things about Florida,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Governor de Santis is doing great stuff.
Speaker 1: And your mayor of Miami seems like a sharp tack too.
Speaker 1: Just jumping into you. What are you up to these days? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I've been I've been crazy busy.
Speaker 1: This was a weird year because of all the shutdown
Speaker 1: and all the things that happened. So so many things
Speaker 1: that I was supposed to be filming and doing didn't happen. So,
Speaker 1: like anybody else, I you know, I I will turn
Speaker 1: and and do things based on what opportunities are there.
Speaker 1: So I actually was sworn into two different departments as
Speaker 1: a police officer last year, as a reserve police officer
Speaker 1: in Pocatello, Ida and as a sheriff's deputy in Frederick County, Virginia.
Speaker 1: My support for law enforcement and first responders in our
Speaker 1: military is true and real and a hundred percent. And
Speaker 1: so instead of just talking about it, uh, during this
Speaker 1: time where it's been such a high anti police sentiment,
Speaker 1: I made sure that I joined up and my voice
Speaker 1: and my actions match. So I got to do that
Speaker 1: this in which was amazing. UM. And I also shot
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of little little Christian movies and UM
Speaker 1: kept myself more than more than plenty busy. And this
Speaker 1: year already I'm starting. I'm getting ready to uh produce
Speaker 1: direct star in and a picture that I wrote. UM.
Speaker 1: We were supposed to start at the end of January
Speaker 1: in in Hawaii, but they shut us down, the COVID
Speaker 1: shut us down. FUS. Now we're going in Art in
Speaker 1: New Mexico or April in New Mexico. But I'm busy
Speaker 1: as can be all the time. And happy as a
Speaker 1: clam is a police officer, have you been and driving
Speaker 1: the cars? Like, have you pulled people over? And they say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, superman, you're pulling me over? Like what
Speaker 1: is this? No, well, I'm there. If we were going
Speaker 1: to pull somebody over, I would be the support police.
Speaker 1: I would be a support officer. So I would try
Speaker 1: to keep my mouth shut and stay out of the
Speaker 1: way from let the let the lead officer do everything.
Speaker 1: We work with the foundation called the UH well we
Speaker 1: work with the Internet Crimes against Children I CACK. Every
Speaker 1: place has one of those UM departments, and the department
Speaker 1: we have in UH especially in Virginia, is very, very strong,
Speaker 1: and so we're doing a lot of interesting things, even
Speaker 1: talking about redoing that show to Catch a Predator, because
Speaker 1: we have so many out there with the Internet and
Speaker 1: what people are doing. I have to my god, kids
Speaker 1: are nine years old, almost ten, and the stuff they
Speaker 1: here blows me away. So the the the access that
Speaker 1: that criminals and people with some bad intentions have to
Speaker 1: our children, into our homes, into our lives is really terrifying,
Speaker 1: and so UH I'd love to be out there talking
Speaker 1: about the dangers for kids. Pay attention to that and parents,
Speaker 1: more more than anything else, pay attention to what your
Speaker 1: kids are doing on the internet, because there are bad
Speaker 1: people who want to who want to do bad things
Speaker 1: to your kids. And it's awful. It's the reality. Um,
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but it's the truth. I want to begin
Speaker 1: with the topic that you're quite familiar with, and that
Speaker 1: cancel culture. We're talking about you, talking about you personally.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on big text and recent efforts
Speaker 1: to siling conservatives Big tech is making a big mistake
Speaker 1: in my opinion. You can't do this is this is Orwellian.
Speaker 1: And then we've been sort of flirting with it for
Speaker 1: a while, but suddenly everybody feels extremely empowered to go
Speaker 1: ahead and start removing people and and then their right
Speaker 1: to free speech. And I find that abhorrent. It's against
Speaker 1: everything that we stand for as Americans. You know, if
Speaker 1: we don't agree with each other, okay, let's be respectful
Speaker 1: toward one another, no violence, but let's have a conversation.
Speaker 1: They're shutting down conversation. They're shutting down one side's point
Speaker 1: of view. Um, it's it's extremely, uh terrifying. It's a
Speaker 1: really really huge problem, and we need to address it directly.
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that this incoming administration is going
Speaker 1: to do so, but it needs to be dealt with
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. Yeah, I agree with that and
Speaker 1: your points on on free speech. So you really see
Speaker 1: this as a really strong threat to fee free speech. Clearly,
Speaker 1: if they're censoring folks, they're banning the President of the
Speaker 1: United States is extraordinarily problematic, and they've already gone down
Speaker 1: that heel. So with that being the case, how can
Speaker 1: conservatives fight back? How can people in general fight back?
Speaker 1: Because this is something that really impacts conservatives, But I
Speaker 1: think everyone can really be under attack no matter what
Speaker 1: your political ideology is. Oh, you know, they're gonna come
Speaker 1: for everybody. The cancel culture. You're you're gonna get brought
Speaker 1: in somehow. You know, you had an extra taco at
Speaker 1: at lunch. Oh you've just disrespected. You know. Everybody from
Speaker 1: the Mexican American community were like, we just madness the
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on. Are you trying to uh you're
Speaker 1: trying to uh appropriate that culture? Giano having a taco
Speaker 1: at lunch? When you do, it's that ridiculous. Um, So
Speaker 1: I think it's a I think it's a real, real,
Speaker 1: huge problem, and it's it's one of the biggest problems
Speaker 1: I think we face as a nation right now. We've
Speaker 1: got the ability to speak, is being You're being shut
Speaker 1: out if you don't have the right point of view.
Speaker 1: It's it's insane to me. It is against everything that
Speaker 1: we stand for. And I think that there's gonna have
Speaker 1: to be some some legislative changes made. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's Section two thirty or whatever it is. Um,
Speaker 1: you know you can't just you can't do that. You
Speaker 1: can't just target one side. UM apply you know, rules
Speaker 1: are supposed to apply equally to everyone in this country.
Speaker 1: The law is supposed to apply everywhere to to everyone
Speaker 1: equally in this country. I believe in it. I know
Speaker 1: it doesn't always work that way, but I believe in it.
Speaker 1: And I think we're always striving toward a more perfect
Speaker 1: unions who were trying striving to make it better. It's
Speaker 1: not perfect, but what they're doing right now is the
Speaker 1: exact wrong way to go. Cancel culture social media, social
Speaker 1: media specifically, had there been attempts to cancel you, I've
Speaker 1: been I've been canceled for everything. Let's see if I
Speaker 1: say I support President Trump's policies. Yeah, well you were
Speaker 1: the worst Superman ever. Okay, non secretary, uh uh fine.
Speaker 1: I was on Supergirl, the show Supergirl, and people were
Speaker 1: calling for me to be removed from the show because
Speaker 1: I support President Trump, you know, back in the day.
Speaker 1: This is way early in the beginning of the administration.
Speaker 1: Because I said on the board of directors for the
Speaker 1: n r A, or because I'm a police officer, you know,
Speaker 1: because I support our military. I support everyone's right to
Speaker 1: have an opinion, and I would fight for opinions that
Speaker 1: I don't agree with. I would fight for someone's right
Speaker 1: to be able to express opinion that I don't agree with.
Speaker 1: Those are the ones that need to be protected. Um
Speaker 1: it's and what's happening in college campuses and shutting down
Speaker 1: speakers and things like that. I'm against all of that.
Speaker 1: I'm I want people to have the conversations and respect
Speaker 1: other people's point of view. I always tried to. I
Speaker 1: tried to do with that on Twitter and everywhere else,
Speaker 1: but again I get I get canceled left, right and
Speaker 1: center for everything. I was promoting a film that I
Speaker 1: did called Gosnell, which dealt with the atrocities of Kermit Gosnell,
Speaker 1: the abortion clinic doctor from Philadelphia who's in jail for
Speaker 1: three counts of murder and one account of manslaughter or
Speaker 1: something like that. And he was a butcher, he was
Speaker 1: killing live babies. Was awful. And we did the film,
Speaker 1: and the film I think was a very strong, very
Speaker 1: good film, and we're out promoting it. Producers made all
Speaker 1: sorts of arrangements for where we're gonna go on, what
Speaker 1: shows and what places. And we went and spoke to
Speaker 1: the Family Research Council, which of course the Southern Poverty
Speaker 1: Law Center called a hate group. And because I was
Speaker 1: speaking there, doesn't matter anything else that I had done
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, or what I had said on on
Speaker 1: gay rights or on abortion rights or whatever. It happens
Speaker 1: to be the fact that I spoke there. Oh, everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to cancel me there, yelled at me for that,
Speaker 1: um you know, even though I didn't even agree at
Speaker 1: the time and all with their Family Reacher Centers UH
Speaker 1: policy on abortion. I didn't agree with making it illegal.
Speaker 1: I still don't agree with making it illegal, but I
Speaker 1: have I would like to see some strong restrictions. But
Speaker 1: I was canceled for that. So I guess the short answer, Gianno.
Speaker 1: And I've been canceled more times than I can count,
Speaker 1: and and you know how much it bothers me. None.
Speaker 1: Now speaking of that mentality, because in your Twitter byline,
Speaker 1: you say that you won't tweet something that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: say to someone's face. In other words, you're not afraid
Speaker 1: to say what you mean and me what you say?
Speaker 1: Talk about that mentality? What did it come from? And
Speaker 1: are you afraid to be in silence if you say
Speaker 1: something that the powers would be deemed to be too provocative?
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said things that the powers that be
Speaker 1: have deemed to be too provocative or unpopular so many times.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's there's there's been roles and things
Speaker 1: that you know that has cost me. But I think
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. I don't condone Robert de Niro standing up
Speaker 1: at the Tony's and saying of tromp and getting a
Speaker 1: standing ovation. I think that's ridiculous. I think that's absolutely abhorrant. Well,
Speaker 1: I still watch Meet the Focker's, Yes I will. And
Speaker 1: I think he's funny, you know. And that's the case,
Speaker 1: and and I I'm able to separate the two. I
Speaker 1: want to have these conversations with everybody else. But you know,
Speaker 1: I just think that, um, it's gonna reach a point,
Speaker 1: and it always does in this cancel culture situation where
Speaker 1: where everybody else gets canceled. I mean even now with
Speaker 1: the you know the stuff, the abhorrent attack on the
Speaker 1: Capitol by people trying to storm the capitol. Um, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Democrats are screaming about how wonderful the
Speaker 1: police and our our capitol police and our our law
Speaker 1: enforcement folks are when during all the ANTIFA riots and
Speaker 1: BLM riots and things going on, Um, they were defund
Speaker 1: the police and their police are the worst. And you
Speaker 1: know it's it's just you can't play that game. You're
Speaker 1: gonna lose that game. I am consistent. I would never
Speaker 1: tweet something I wouldn't say directed to someone's face. And
Speaker 1: that even includes some of the rude things that I say.
Speaker 1: You gotta push me to get me to to say
Speaker 1: something like that, But I'm a grown man. At a
Speaker 1: certain point in time, I've had it and somebody's crossed
Speaker 1: the line. You know, if they say something about my
Speaker 1: kid or you know, something like that, Now you've done
Speaker 1: night night, Now you've done it. But I don't think
Speaker 1: people follow that. I try to live my life by
Speaker 1: the Golden rule, my friend, and that includes UH in
Speaker 1: social media and as it should be. Now you've mentioned
Speaker 1: that you have different beliefs in terms of your your politics.
Speaker 1: How do you just describe your political views? You obviously
Speaker 1: have problems with the loft, but it's conservative the right
Speaker 1: label to give you if you want to say label
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, you know, it's hard. I think I'm
Speaker 1: hard to label. I mean, I've gotten the label of
Speaker 1: being a conservative big time. But if you talk to
Speaker 1: like really staunch conservatives that they wouldn't think I'm conservative.
Speaker 1: I I happen to be very socially, very liberal. UH. Fiscally,
Speaker 1: foreign policy wise, I'm very conservative. I'm a big supporter
Speaker 1: of our military. I believe in living, limited government, low taxation.
Speaker 1: I believe in capitalism to the nth degree. I believe
Speaker 1: in Marita priscy. I don't believe in in UH. I
Speaker 1: believe in the quality of opportunity, but not of outcome ever. Ever,
Speaker 1: and you try to make that happen, you're creating. You're
Speaker 1: creating something that can't exist. It's just beyond human nature.
Speaker 1: I believe we should have some sort of a safety
Speaker 1: net for folks who were in trouble, but giving them
Speaker 1: a hand up as opposed to hand out, instead of
Speaker 1: encouraging them, encouraging them to get out of that cycle
Speaker 1: of poverty, instead of um getting comfortable in it, you know.
Speaker 1: And and so these are those are real basic goals.
Speaker 1: If that makes me a conservative, so be it. If
Speaker 1: it makes me a liberal, I don't care what people
Speaker 1: do on their socially. I've been four gay marriage forever.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Hollywood. I grew up Malou, California.
Speaker 1: I grew up with Sean Penn, crisp Pen, Roblow, Charlie Sheen,
Speaker 1: you know, Amelio Estada is Holly Robinson. These are the
Speaker 1: kids that I grew up with. And I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: many of them are conservative, you know. And we've had
Speaker 1: these conversations and so on, and so you know, I'm
Speaker 1: all for the quality of opportunity, but but not outcome.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, so not even a libertarian, you per se.
Speaker 1: But I really appreciate what you said in terms of
Speaker 1: giving the people a hand up, not a hand out,
Speaker 1: and you're talking about the protection of the safety that
Speaker 1: I think that's critically important as someone who comes from poverty,
Speaker 1: grew up with nothing in Chicago, much of nothing. I
Speaker 1: think people realize, oftentimes once they come out of that,
Speaker 1: that the best policy is to give someone a job,
Speaker 1: well not even get for them to earn an opportunity
Speaker 1: for themselves. And with that being the case, I think
Speaker 1: that safety net, having a strong safety net, it's temporary,
Speaker 1: it's so beneficial to people. So you're you're hitting a
Speaker 1: lot of hard nuggets which would make people say you're
Speaker 1: a Republican for sure. Yep. Here in California, I am
Speaker 1: a decline to state. You know, there's a recall election
Speaker 1: just being discussed here in California. There's a petition to
Speaker 1: remove Gavin Newsham a k a. Patrick Bates from American Psycho.
Speaker 1: He looks like him. I'm just thought I thought that
Speaker 1: was funny. But uh, but he looks like he's trying
Speaker 1: to pose for a g Q thing at the same time.
Speaker 1: So it's a weird visual. But he's the recompetition for him. Uh,
Speaker 1: and if that happens, I've been I've been hearing I've
Speaker 1: just been fielding a large number of inquiries to get
Speaker 1: me to run for governor. Here in California. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: so very liberal, but fiscally in foreign policy wise I am.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm very very conservative. Uh, and I'm a
Speaker 1: low taxation guy. We have the worst tax laws in
Speaker 1: the country here in California and they're just getting worse.
Speaker 1: And we have terrible forest management going on. We have
Speaker 1: terrible you know, water management going I mean, we have
Speaker 1: so many problems here. You know, these power outages constantly.
Speaker 1: We're like living in a third world country here sometimes,
Speaker 1: and we're locked down and for reasons that I don't
Speaker 1: agree with. And there's just different ways. California is this
Speaker 1: huge state to make a blanket um, you know, proclamation
Speaker 1: as to how everything has to be runn It's just
Speaker 1: there's so much wrong with it. But I keep I'm
Speaker 1: continually getting sort of this bar jag of hey, run
Speaker 1: for governor and uh, I don't want to. But that's
Speaker 1: the only reason that would make me think that I should.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a politician. I don't want it.
Speaker 1: That's terrible. My life is fantastic. Why would I want
Speaker 1: to mucky it up with that, you know, jump in
Speaker 1: the middle of that. In politics, it's ugly and gross,
Speaker 1: but if I thought I could do some good, I
Speaker 1: might consider that. I think, especially for California, having lived
Speaker 1: there for so many years, what you've noticed is a
Speaker 1: lot of Republicans more leaning towards the the issues of
Speaker 1: the economy and building people up, businesses, et cetera. And
Speaker 1: they leave the social issues to someone else. So I
Speaker 1: think that's right in line with what we've seen. Who
Speaker 1: would you say if you were to run, or if
Speaker 1: you were to be governor of California, who do you
Speaker 1: think you would govern like? Well, I would like to
Speaker 1: say Ronald Reagan. Um, because I I fortunately had a
Speaker 1: chance to meet there. He is right there. Me can
Speaker 1: see that there's a picture behind you because it's Alio only,
Speaker 1: so you gotta picture of Reagan. You're with Reagan and fhoto, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: young me and probably nine with former President Reagan at
Speaker 1: the time. And I had studied so much about what
Speaker 1: he had done as a history major, and uh, just
Speaker 1: watching you know, things happen in the end of the
Speaker 1: Cold War, and um, you know he had also been
Speaker 1: my governor here in California, and um, just the things
Speaker 1: he said, I promise you this right now, if I
Speaker 1: do run, I'm gonna. I will steal and cite half
Speaker 1: of my words from Ronald Reagan because the things he
Speaker 1: said we're just dead on. That's really interesting. I want
Speaker 1: to pick up from there in a moment, but first
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. So this is really interesting case.
Speaker 1: We've got some breaking news out of you that that's
Speaker 1: so exciting. So are there more Republicans and Conservatives in
Speaker 1: Hollywood than what we think? Yeah? So along those lines
Speaker 1: of where we just discussed, like, I'll be on set
Speaker 1: and have these conversations, right and some maybe someone will
Speaker 1: be upset or whatever and blah blah blah. But then
Speaker 1: I'll have seven grips the electrician, three other actors walk up,
Speaker 1: go hey man, that's exactly how I feel. I just
Speaker 1: don't want to say anything. Thank you for standing up.
Speaker 1: You know. It's just, you know, we don't We're all
Speaker 1: afraid to say anything because we want to keep our jobs,
Speaker 1: So just don't say anything. I'm like, that's all right,
Speaker 1: I'll take the heat for now. But it's nice to
Speaker 1: know that people appreciate it. I get stopped all the
Speaker 1: time and quietly thanked for for my positions and for
Speaker 1: speaking out, not so much for my positions and my positions,
Speaker 1: and I don't do it to get thanked, but for
Speaker 1: speaking out, people thank me all the time, and almost
Speaker 1: never does someone have a conversation and and challenge me.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to please. Let's have a discussion and see
Speaker 1: where we find common around and see where we disagree
Speaker 1: and why we disagree, and you know, agree to disagree
Speaker 1: on certain things. But so many people, too many people
Speaker 1: are afraid to have the conversations and won't have the conversations,
Speaker 1: and they shut you down by calling you, you know,
Speaker 1: an ism or an isst you're you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: you're you're a racist, you're xenophobe, your this that, you know,
Speaker 1: just because I think we should have strong immigration law,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think and I believe in the
Speaker 1: border wall, and I believe that Congress needs to get
Speaker 1: off their tail and and reform immigration law. You know.
Speaker 1: I think these things are real simple and they should
Speaker 1: be done. But people they're like, well, the president, it's
Speaker 1: his fault for doing this, and no it isn't. He
Speaker 1: doesn't set immigration law. That's right, that's set like Congress.
Speaker 1: And people like well, what I'm like, well, don't you're
Speaker 1: you don't really know what you're talking about, do you?
Speaker 1: And and that's that's where we start getting into it.
Speaker 1: And I love that and having those conversations. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it empowers everybody because you get it's more
Speaker 1: knowledge for everybody to discuss, and I'm always open to it.
Speaker 1: That's so much that needs to be reformed in our government.
Speaker 1: Is just hard to pinpoint everything because there's so much.
Speaker 1: There is so much, and part of the problem is
Speaker 1: in trench politicians and that in trench bureaucracy that exists.
Speaker 1: If if anybody spends any time in Washington, d C,
Speaker 1: you know that all you have to do in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. To move up in the ranks is to
Speaker 1: hang around, just be there. You don't talented and good,
Speaker 1: you're eventually going to move up the ranks because that's
Speaker 1: just what they do. They some plug and play. And
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous because you get so many of these unelected
Speaker 1: bureaucrats that just keep rising. It's like Hollywood. You know,
Speaker 1: you can fail upward in Hollywood very easily. Do you
Speaker 1: think you should have term limit on every elected official
Speaker 1: where especially those in Congress? But do you think we
Speaker 1: should have term limits as it really should be a
Speaker 1: national mandate. I'd like to see it happen because I
Speaker 1: think they get too entrenched. Um, you know, maybe six
Speaker 1: terms in the House and two terms of senators. I mean,
Speaker 1: how much time do you have to be in government.
Speaker 1: I cannot stand the political class. We were never ever
Speaker 1: supposed to have a political class here in the United States.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to be citizen politicians. And that makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, twelve years to be a senator,
Speaker 1: that's a long time. Twelve years a long time. You
Speaker 1: can be governing for twelve years and then go back
Speaker 1: and be the governed. You can also do twelve years
Speaker 1: in the House. Okay, now you've got twenty four years.
Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at a lot of time in politics.
Speaker 1: But people have been doing it yet forever. Joe Biden
Speaker 1: forty seven years. I mean, that's it all he's ever done.
Speaker 1: And it's like what, it's not how, it's not how
Speaker 1: it should be. And I don't like that for America.
Speaker 1: So yes, I believe there should be tournaments, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting that you you mentioned Joe
Speaker 1: Biden and his time in office, and one of the
Speaker 1: classic lines from the debate was Joe, you've been in
Speaker 1: office for forty seven years? What have you done? It's
Speaker 1: like you can't even point to some of the things
Speaker 1: these politicians have done, because outside of cutting ribbons and
Speaker 1: maybe shaking hands, it's like, how has your time and
Speaker 1: office benefited my life? And I think that's where they
Speaker 1: get in so much trouble. Well that I co sponsored
Speaker 1: eleven bills? What does that even means? You know, right,
Speaker 1: thing there, I know how it works. Somebody goes, hey,
Speaker 1: well you coach? Okay, that's it. You don't even reading
Speaker 1: staffers reading it. They don't read the bills half the time.
Speaker 1: They're not looking through stuff. I mean some do and
Speaker 1: I and I applaud them. But you know, when you
Speaker 1: give them five thousand page you know bill and have
Speaker 1: to be be voted on tomorrow, that's insane. And that happens.
Speaker 1: It just happened. So that kind of stuff is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: A stimulus bill, it's five thousand pages long. We give
Speaker 1: it to you today. By tomorrow at five pm, we
Speaker 1: gotta vote on it. But I don't know how you
Speaker 1: later it's two hours later. To just ridiculous. Come on,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't happen. It shouldn't be allowed to happen. Back
Speaker 1: in July, you appeared on Fox News and you said, cancel.
Speaker 1: Culture has gotten so bad that you probably wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to say Superman's catchphrase today, and the catch phrases
Speaker 1: of course, truth justice in the American way. What did
Speaker 1: you mean when you said that? Good question, sir, uh
Speaker 1: so if you've noticed um, except because immediately someone else
Speaker 1: popped off and said, oh, you called me MF for this,
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. I said, I just wrote hit
Speaker 1: those words into this recent comic. I was like, I don't,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him, but okay, let me take a look.
Speaker 1: I looked and saw it. And it wasn't him Superman
Speaker 1: that said it. Was someone else who said it who
Speaker 1: was sort of a U so you're like a blood
Speaker 1: of blood lusting soldier person who had been shooting people.
Speaker 1: But whatever, that's the person who said it. The reason
Speaker 1: I say it is because they haven't said it in
Speaker 1: any of the iterations of Superman for the longest time.
Speaker 1: They won't say it, you know, truth, justice and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. They'll say stuff like that. The reason I
Speaker 1: find it so important, and I think it's such an
Speaker 1: important phrase is truth and justice we all agree should
Speaker 1: be that. That is not something that I think is
Speaker 1: up for argument. Truth and justice should prevail the American way.
Speaker 1: So when you take a character like Superman, it's very
Speaker 1: pro America. He is very pro American values. This is
Speaker 1: the strongest being on the planet. And he could be
Speaker 1: whatever he wants to be, evil good, however, but he
Speaker 1: was raised in small town Kansas with small town family values,
Speaker 1: small town American values. It wouldn't matter if the parents
Speaker 1: were black, white, green, yellow, orange. If they're raised with
Speaker 1: those values. That's what I talk about. That's the American way.
Speaker 1: And that is um what I mean by saying that
Speaker 1: people don't like the American way. They don't believe in
Speaker 1: that meritocracy. They don't believe in self reliance and and
Speaker 1: and some of these things that I think are just
Speaker 1: hugely important building blocks of America and what makes America
Speaker 1: that shining city on a hill. Everybody wants to be here.
Speaker 1: I don't care what these people are talking about when
Speaker 1: they're talking about like, oh, nobody wants to be in America.
Speaker 1: I'm all over the world. I've had a home in
Speaker 1: Europe for twenty years, Bologna. Everybody wants to be in America,
Speaker 1: because in America you can make anything of yourself. That
Speaker 1: possibility exists, and it doesn't exist in other countries. And
Speaker 1: many other countries, that ability, regardless of your skin color,
Speaker 1: your religion, your caste, any of that stuff wouldn't matter
Speaker 1: here in the United States. You invent the zipper, you're
Speaker 1: a bajillionaire. Congratulations, you're just helping in kind and uh,
Speaker 1: you get to reap the benefits of your reward. You
Speaker 1: do that. In North Korea, well you get nothing. And
Speaker 1: and it's such a shame that that that's kind of
Speaker 1: where we are. And let's get to know that you
Speaker 1: have a home, and you're about I travel with the
Speaker 1: country all the time, and I love to have a
Speaker 1: place to stay. So thanks on air, I will, I
Speaker 1: will promise you it's yours, my friend. I don't all
Speaker 1: my friends go and stay there. And I offer it
Speaker 1: to my friends all the time, and then they're like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna go and take you up on it.
Speaker 1: I go. I wouldn't offer it if I didn't mean it,
Speaker 1: And so I'm offering it up to you, my friend,
Speaker 1: and well, I'm very serious. Accept that really brings me
Speaker 1: to my next question. You, of course played professional football.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that experience later, but
Speaker 1: first I was struck by a quote that I found
Speaker 1: from you. You once said this, there are so many
Speaker 1: things about playing football that seemed to be uniquely American.
Speaker 1: Anybody can succeed, anybody can play, but you've got to
Speaker 1: work hard to do it. Talk about being uniquely American?
Speaker 1: What values and traditions do you think define us? Like,
Speaker 1: what really defines us? You mentioned some of the things,
Speaker 1: but in terms of being America, and now we losing
Speaker 1: that at this point, it seems like a lot of
Speaker 1: our norms are dissipating. You think about Nancy Pelosi saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take out mother and father and all these
Speaker 1: different things, Like it seems like we blinked in. Life
Speaker 1: is just changing drastically. What what what? What's going on here? Uh?
Speaker 1: That is so terrifying. That's that who Owellian new speak.
Speaker 1: Stuff that's going on that I think is insane. Um. Yes,
Speaker 1: but you know, at the same time as that, you
Speaker 1: hear those things from the top. If people call Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi and her you know, from her vaulted ceilings and
Speaker 1: her ice cream refrigerator and stuff like that. Speaking down
Speaker 1: to the masses. That's one thing for her to make
Speaker 1: those changes. Those things don't change, uh, at the dinner table,
Speaker 1: and that's where things really take in the United States.
Speaker 1: There's moms and there's dads, and that nuclear family and
Speaker 1: having strong mothers and fathers raising our children. That's number one.
Speaker 1: That's where it begins. Nancy Pelosi can take the word
Speaker 1: mother or father or brother or sister or daughter or
Speaker 1: whatever out of out of the official language, but at
Speaker 1: the dinner table, I'm dad, and as yes, sir, and
Speaker 1: that's mom, and as yes, ma'am. And you do. And
Speaker 1: when those states are taught that, then you have that
Speaker 1: discipline and respect. But the things about football that are
Speaker 1: uniquely American that I go back to is meritocracy. I
Speaker 1: don't care where you're from. We're a football team and
Speaker 1: your defensive linement, I need you to do your job
Speaker 1: so I can do mine. You put pressure on that quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick him off, and then I'm gonna thank
Speaker 1: you for putting pressure on that quarterback for making so
Speaker 1: allowed me to make my play. That's what you learn, um,
Speaker 1: and and we need each other as Americans and we
Speaker 1: come together. We always have in our two forty four
Speaker 1: year history or whatever we're at now, you know we
Speaker 1: have we come together, and that's uniquely American and playing
Speaker 1: as t as a team and again a meritocracy. You
Speaker 1: put together a football team, everybody's got a whole complete
Speaker 1: different backgrounds, upbringings, whatever, and the only thing that matters
Speaker 1: is what you do on the field and how you
Speaker 1: do it together. We're playing football together. I don't care
Speaker 1: if you're gay, straight, sideways, whatever you are. You're a
Speaker 1: good defensive put back. I love you. Let's go, you know,
Speaker 1: let's play ball. I don't care about any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: You're Republican or Democrat, I don't care. We'll do our jobs.
Speaker 1: We'll do our jobs together, and we win. That's that's
Speaker 1: very interesting, is one of those traditions what makes America
Speaker 1: America unity. And I think back to nine eleven September eleven,
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. I was a freshman at Semion
Speaker 1: High School in Chicago. I was walking into music class
Speaker 1: and I recalled the music teacher saying it was the
Speaker 1: TV on which was never on. He was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there was a plane that just went in the tower.
Speaker 1: They think this is an accident. And I was watching, watching, watching,
Speaker 1: and then I saw the second plane going to the tower,
Speaker 1: which I thought was just a replay of the first,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, they got this on tape. And
Speaker 1: then we realized that we were at war. But what
Speaker 1: came out of it, the ramifications of that attack is
Speaker 1: Americans could not be more united. It didn't matter what
Speaker 1: ray issues existed. You're black, you're white, whatever you income status,
Speaker 1: none of that matter. We united as a country. We
Speaker 1: were the greatest. And I had never in my life
Speaker 1: seen anything like that before um and since then, I've
Speaker 1: not really seen it. Since. Absolutely I agree we should unify.
Speaker 1: But do you think it's disingenuous, the disingenuous the calls
Speaker 1: that the Democrats are making when they're continuing to try
Speaker 1: to divide us at the same time. Yes, their calls
Speaker 1: are completely disingenuous, There's no doubt about that. But let
Speaker 1: me go back real quick to what you said, like
Speaker 1: that unity you've never really seen about America. I've always
Speaker 1: felt that that's America. Like for me, that wasn't new unity.
Speaker 1: I always felt like I knew we have some divisions
Speaker 1: here and there, little things going on about this, that
Speaker 1: the other. But I never felt like any of them
Speaker 1: were so big that they weren't like they were just
Speaker 1: small issues, And I felt like on the whole we
Speaker 1: were tremendously united. These current Democrats calls for unity are
Speaker 1: joke eitherity, we should be together. Let's impeach the president
Speaker 1: again in a political impeachment, which we shouldn't have done
Speaker 1: the first time. And literally everything that was warned about
Speaker 1: in the Federalist papers and everything every framer of the
Speaker 1: Constitution explained that this should never be done for political purposes,
Speaker 1: And it's being done a dent for political purposes now,
Speaker 1: um ridiculous. And people are thrown around words like insurrection
Speaker 1: and and trader and sedition um when they don't really
Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, and that that grosses me out.
Speaker 1: That just makes the words useless, same as the way
Speaker 1: they throw around racist or nazi or xenophobe. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know you're you're really devaluing what those words mean when
Speaker 1: you call anybody who disagrees with you a Nazi, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry do and political violence I don't support at any
Speaker 1: point in time. Chris Kyle, who's also on my wall
Speaker 1: behind me there um had a had a saying that
Speaker 1: he took from somebody else, which says, and I'm not
Speaker 1: advocating violence. Let they put that up front. But that
Speaker 1: little thing that they little saying that they went by
Speaker 1: was this desp what your mama told you. Violence does
Speaker 1: solve problems. And that's the and that's the mindset of
Speaker 1: a war fighter. And that's the mindset of me. If
Speaker 1: you touch my child, you know, and there's there's things
Speaker 1: like that. It's like certain times, you know that I
Speaker 1: don't ever want to be violent, but knowing that I
Speaker 1: can be violent might change somebody's opinion to walk up
Speaker 1: to me and, you know, try to hit me in
Speaker 1: the head with an egg. Absolutely. Now, let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question, because you mentioned the capital. Do you
Speaker 1: think President Trump bear is any responsibility to uh what
Speaker 1: happened a week ago? Two weeks ago? Yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was busy during that time, honestly, So
Speaker 1: I missed all the speeches and all the things that happened.
Speaker 1: And what I've caught up with. Uh, it seems to
Speaker 1: me like, you know, if they decided to censure him
Speaker 1: for that, that would make sense. Does he bear some
Speaker 1: responsibility short I'm sure he does. Some of the things
Speaker 1: he said was you know, it seems like he was
Speaker 1: calling to get people to go to the capital and um,
Speaker 1: and he was inflaming tensions to some degree. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it's any worse than things that have been
Speaker 1: said by numerous folks on the other side of the
Speaker 1: aisle that are now castigating. Pardon Mecine Award is being
Speaker 1: one of them. You see a Trump supporter or anybody
Speaker 1: administration get in their face, um, you know, and they're
Speaker 1: they're the stuffy're talking about now, you know, deprogramming trumpets
Speaker 1: and the culture and you these words they're using are
Speaker 1: frightening if you know anything about you know, communism or
Speaker 1: about quote de programming people who who with whom you
Speaker 1: don't agree. I mean, that's like the humanizing people, which
Speaker 1: is the next step to the Holocaust. I mean, then
Speaker 1: we'll take all Trump supporters and we'll put them in
Speaker 1: trains and we'll take him. That the people saying this
Speaker 1: stuff is insane not hiring anybody from from the former administration,
Speaker 1: because you know, they're pariah. This that it's it's that's
Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's group thinking. You have to go
Speaker 1: along with what we say about you can't be part
Speaker 1: of the team. That's insane. I want to shift the
Speaker 1: conversation from council culture the patriotism right after a quick
Speaker 1: word from our starts. I talked to a lot of
Speaker 1: folks and people, especially in the spots that we're in
Speaker 1: on television and the media and before the spot. People
Speaker 1: are seriously concerned and it feels like there's an attack
Speaker 1: if you if you're putting together a hit list, which
Speaker 1: is what um. Some organizations the Lincoln Project together lists
Speaker 1: of folks who worked in the administration under Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and they want to follow them throughout their career and
Speaker 1: ensure that they don't get any opportunities. That's dangerous me personally.
Speaker 1: I think it's no secret to anybody who's listening or
Speaker 1: even you. I don't agree with everything President Trump says,
Speaker 1: and I'll say it. I think he shouldn't have said that,
Speaker 1: or he's made it all about him, or people can
Speaker 1: consider this to be racist what he said in this
Speaker 1: moment um, whether he meant it or not, or however
Speaker 1: he did it like. I don't mind calling them out,
Speaker 1: but as you mentioned, the policies have been extraordinarily beneficial
Speaker 1: and I believe in uh policy over rhetoric. So and
Speaker 1: if you look and you didn't say it, a lot
Speaker 1: of problematic things. You didn't say things that people can
Speaker 1: construe his races, like if you don't vote for me
Speaker 1: and you ain't black like Bill, we can go down
Speaker 1: a list, list list, So when you try to compare
Speaker 1: to to, it's like you're not calling balls and stripes.
Speaker 1: It's like you see people who are clearly biased in
Speaker 1: their assessment. But now it's gon gone to a level
Speaker 1: where there's people legitimately scared. I'm talking about conservatives in
Speaker 1: a lot of cases because you just don't know what
Speaker 1: the left will do next, and that fear is just
Speaker 1: showing up everywhere. Yeah, I and I think it's legitimate.
Speaker 1: I understand it. I hear it from tons and tons
Speaker 1: of people. People say it to me constantly, how they're
Speaker 1: so scared of this that or the other thing. I've
Speaker 1: had a lot of quiet phone calls going like, hey man,
Speaker 1: this is out of control and and and I'm terrified,
Speaker 1: and I understand it and listen. If I were just
Speaker 1: starting my career, I probably wouldn't be nearly as vocal.
Speaker 1: But I'm a growing I'm fifty four years old. I'm
Speaker 1: a grown man, you know, a father whose kids in college. Um,
Speaker 1: I just I have to speak my piece, and i'd
Speaker 1: like you. I didn't. I didn't agree with everything the
Speaker 1: president said. I supported his policies almost every single one
Speaker 1: I thought were fantastic policies. I would like to send
Speaker 1: the deficit go down. Some of the I had issues
Speaker 1: with some of the things he did, and certainly some
Speaker 1: of the things he said, But all in all, yeah,
Speaker 1: my support for the president and his policies was tremendous.
Speaker 1: And I looked at Widen and the people he's bringing in,
Speaker 1: and I I'm terrified for our country. I just think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be do we how How how does the
Speaker 1: country weather this? I don't think it's gonna be great
Speaker 1: for us. I'll tell you what's really gonna happen is
Speaker 1: that the news that twenty four news cycle is going
Speaker 1: to slow down to molasses, my friend, because if you
Speaker 1: don't have president. When President Trump, it was like on
Speaker 1: cocaine and a speedball, and then people just it was
Speaker 1: like insanity. I couldn't believe the speed with what what
Speaker 1: stuff was happening. It's like it's only two day. I
Speaker 1: think now it's gonna be like molasses dripping. If the
Speaker 1: progressive super progress of wing gets to take over, I
Speaker 1: think we're in big trouble. And I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get a backlash because I don't think Americans will stand
Speaker 1: for that very long. And that and that's where we
Speaker 1: go to. So hopefully we can As Republicans me personally,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we're gonna be able to take back
Speaker 1: the House. But it doesn't sound like you have like
Speaker 1: quite an optimistic view about a Biden presidency of what
Speaker 1: he brings to the table. Listen, I hope he does well.
Speaker 1: I hope he does well because I root for America,
Speaker 1: and if he does well in America, does well. But
Speaker 1: the policies he's talking about, I hope they don't do
Speaker 1: well because they're not good policies, you know. Re Entering
Speaker 1: the RAND, the j c p o A, the Iran
Speaker 1: Nuclear Deal is a joke. Re Entering the Paris Climate
Speaker 1: Accords is a joke. It's a non binding treat It
Speaker 1: should be a treaty that's supposed to be a treaty.
Speaker 1: Its supposed to get ratified by Congress. But they won't
Speaker 1: do that you know, these things shouldn't happen by executive fiat.
Speaker 1: There's a reason that they got undone by a new president.
Speaker 1: There's a process for it, and they're stepping across the process.
Speaker 1: Obama did it with his pen and a phone and
Speaker 1: that's not okay, and that's not how it's supposed to
Speaker 1: get done. So there's a lot of things putting people
Speaker 1: back in positions of power, Samantha power for example. Um,
Speaker 1: it's all the same people from the former administration, and
Speaker 1: I just look at and go, h. You know, there's
Speaker 1: always these questions about kind of where do we go
Speaker 1: from here? And I mentioned faith and you talked about
Speaker 1: putting in the work. But there's a pin tweet on
Speaker 1: your Twitter account there's you and your son praying at
Speaker 1: a spot where Jesus was baptized by John the Baptiste.
Speaker 1: What role does faith play in your life and how
Speaker 1: important is religion to maintain in a healthy country. Well,
Speaker 1: I think for me personally, faith is something I don't
Speaker 1: talk about, Like I don't beat people over the head
Speaker 1: with my faith or what I believe. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: when you raise a kid, that's one of the things
Speaker 1: you have to discuss with your partner upfront, is what
Speaker 1: do we teach these kids? What are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Because you start talking about things that maybe you don't
Speaker 1: as a young person, you're not talking about every day
Speaker 1: what happens. When I had explained to my son, you know,
Speaker 1: he's gonna die someday, man, When I told him that
Speaker 1: that three year old kids started shaking like he couldn't
Speaker 1: sleep at night. I would have to take him outside
Speaker 1: and sit under the stars and just sort of just
Speaker 1: soothe him, because the thought of the thought of dying
Speaker 1: to him, you know, was this thing. And so we
Speaker 1: start talking about, you know, why are we here? What?
Speaker 1: You know, what do we believe in? These sorts of things.
Speaker 1: And he actually helped me find my faith, you know,
Speaker 1: in in a way his journey was sort of a
Speaker 1: journey for me too. And I've been exposed to the
Speaker 1: Bible and teachings in the Bible, and so for me,
Speaker 1: my faith is a personal thing, and I don't judge
Speaker 1: anybody by their faith. I have friends who are One
Speaker 1: of my really good friends is one of the foremost
Speaker 1: Islamic scholars in the world. Him and my son had
Speaker 1: some of the greatest conversations. I was I was like
Speaker 1: a fly on the wall watching these two talk. It
Speaker 1: was incredible. Um. So for me, it's an important part
Speaker 1: of my morality and my deeds and the things that
Speaker 1: I personally do. Um. You know, I don't pray all
Speaker 1: day every day. Uh, but I've had moments where God
Speaker 1: and I have had some real clear conversations now that
Speaker 1: I realize how blessed I am and and the situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are things that I want to do
Speaker 1: to help my fellow man, my fellow human h um
Speaker 1: and but I am human. And Uh. The reason that
Speaker 1: is on my pin Twitter spot is because, Um, that
Speaker 1: was such an incredible moment in the Kingdom of Jordan's
Speaker 1: that I had with my son, and uh, I was
Speaker 1: able to share that with him. And there they say,
Speaker 1: there's places where it feels like, you know, the the
Speaker 1: sky is thin and the air is thin, like the
Speaker 1: space between Heaven and Earth kind of just you feel
Speaker 1: it really close. And you know, being all over Israel
Speaker 1: and Jordan and being these places, and I really felt
Speaker 1: like the air was very thin there. And to be
Speaker 1: able to share that with my son was one of
Speaker 1: the greatest moments of my life. So that's why it's
Speaker 1: my pinned been on Twitter not to hit anybody over
Speaker 1: the head with my faith, but to say this was
Speaker 1: an incredible experience that we experienced together and to share that.
Speaker 1: That's why it's up there, and my faith guides every
Speaker 1: decision to make. That's powerful. That is really powerful. That's
Speaker 1: a really powerful moment. My last question to you, and
Speaker 1: this is one thing I try to do. One I
Speaker 1: allow with giantto called Well, is to share stories about
Speaker 1: people who overcame adversity to inspire others. As you know,
Speaker 1: and people thank you all for getting my book taking
Speaker 1: for granted how Conservatism can went back to Americas the
Speaker 1: liberalism failed. But people know I grew up in poverty
Speaker 1: on the South Side of Chicago, and now I'm hosting
Speaker 1: this podcast and talking to well known actor, a famous
Speaker 1: guy who maybe the governor of California. And I'll come
Speaker 1: back if you're the governor of moving that gain immediately.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, absolutely. You were in the NFL at
Speaker 1: one time, you sound to the Buffalo Bills and you
Speaker 1: suffered a knee injury that ended your career prematurely. Can
Speaker 1: you talk about that experience and how difficult that was
Speaker 1: for you. Have you had any other setbacks that made
Speaker 1: you question everything you pushed through. Nonetheless, Oh there's been
Speaker 1: tons of setbacks. That's the thing. Anybody who's achieved anything
Speaker 1: has been told you can never do it, you can
Speaker 1: never do it. And you hear those stories from everybody
Speaker 1: who's ever achieved anything. Dude, you'll never make it. Somebody's
Speaker 1: a comedian, You're you were clowning class, and they'd be
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, tremendously famous comedian or whatever. Everybody
Speaker 1: will tell you a hundred million times you can't get
Speaker 1: something done, you can't do it. I was told i'd
Speaker 1: never make it to the NFL. I got to the NFL.
Speaker 1: I was really comfortable. I really liked where I was.
Speaker 1: I was with the Buffalo Bills. The defense was set
Speaker 1: up perfectly the way I like to play. It's literally
Speaker 1: like if I could craft a defense where I would
Speaker 1: fit in as a free safety, that was the defense.
Speaker 1: I was like Daddy's home. This is how I like
Speaker 1: to do things. And I was really excited, and I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna have a great career there. And
Speaker 1: I was injured and it was over, and I realized
Speaker 1: that was still an undrafted rookie and I was there
Speaker 1: but then only took three of us that were undrafted
Speaker 1: rookies that year, and that team was full of Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame guys. But I was very happy to be there.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be great, this is
Speaker 1: where I want to be. And then I was injured,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of shocks you. You're like, WHOA.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was prepared for life after football by
Speaker 1: going to Princeton and having a an education to fall
Speaker 1: back on. I just didn't think it was gonna happen
Speaker 1: that fast. And the truth is, when I was injured
Speaker 1: and had their surgery, I didn't think it was over.
Speaker 1: In fact, I was on like year three of Lois
Speaker 1: and Clark playing Superman, and I was already, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty seven nine years old. I was in like year
Speaker 1: three of that before I realized, Man, I'm never going
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL again. I graduated. I was like, dang,
Speaker 1: I'm just like everybody else. Now, all the stuff I've achieved. Now,
Speaker 1: if I want to work in film, I'm brand new.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares so I it's the same thing, all right.
Speaker 1: I'll put my nose to the grindstone and just hard work,
Speaker 1: hard work, and I'm gonna earn it. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like anything else, hard work and perseverance will pay off.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I talked about. Anybody says, how
Speaker 1: could I ever be successful? And I just say that
Speaker 1: the my number one thing is to never give up,
Speaker 1: to always keep pursuing what it is that you want
Speaker 1: to do, and that's how you become successful. You know.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's I've never seen a man so competitive as
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan in my lifetime. And it was when he
Speaker 1: was doing space Sham and he was getting ready to
Speaker 1: make his comeback for the NBA and he had come
Speaker 1: back the year before. He's on my wall behind me
Speaker 1: here and with Magic, one of my other favorite players ever,
Speaker 1: and he, you know, didn't they didn't come back and
Speaker 1: win the championship. He was so focused and so angry,
Speaker 1: and they were out there playing and they made up
Speaker 1: a whole gym for him, and he allowed me to
Speaker 1: come in there and play. There was one day when
Speaker 1: I was playing against Mike's team and I hit the
Speaker 1: winning basket and Mike had to sit down. He was hot,
Speaker 1: he was angry, angry, and we'll playing the next game.
Speaker 1: We're kind of running this other team off, and I like,
Speaker 1: somebody makes steel comes from the outlet. I just alley
Speaker 1: oop to somebody. This guy dunks it and Mike's on
Speaker 1: the sideline is like, hey, every dog has his day.
Speaker 1: And he's I was like, is Michael Jordan's like talking
Speaker 1: smack to me right now? I was like, because he was?
Speaker 1: He was. It was mad that he lost that game
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like I did anything real special to
Speaker 1: win the game or and I mean I made the shot,
Speaker 1: but but you know I can't. He he was. But yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's that focus. It's that person. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: beat him because he won't let you. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what an hour and You've left us with a really
Speaker 1: good nugget, and I'll add something to it. I heard
Speaker 1: you say hard work, persistence, and for me it would
Speaker 1: be faith in God with supersedes every human obstacle there is.
Speaker 1: And I'll put you in a room of something you
Speaker 1: don't deserve. You'll have it just that faith and God
Speaker 1: will do that. So I man, brother Dean, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: this has been a fantastic time and I've learned so
Speaker 1: much about your journey personally and uh more importantly, you
Speaker 1: may be the next governor of California. Yours here man,
Speaker 1: Then we'll see you're the of the guy to do it, no,
Speaker 1: no question. Absolutely. How can people follow you in and
Speaker 1: stay in touch? Well, currently I'm on Twitter uh at
Speaker 1: at Real Deancane until they throw me off or they
Speaker 1: try to. I'm on cloud Hub at Dean Kane, um
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