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Speaker 2: games of the college football weekend. That's where Kelly Ford

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Speaker 3: He joins us. Now on the Doug Gottlieb Show, Kelly,

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Speaker 3: how are you, Doug.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me, and I'm happy

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Speaker 3: Okay, you have.

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Speaker 2: Your offensive and your defensive ratings on the K four

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Speaker 2: in the top thirty, right, so I wish you surprised.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame's twenty fourth USC is first. Notre Dame is

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Speaker 2: second in offensive ratings. Obviously, if you look at your list,

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts in the SC Notre Dame game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you said it, Doug. I mean, this is for me,

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Speaker 4: the top two offenses in all of college football right now.

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Speaker 4: And it's comes to no surprise. You know Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 4: few years, and really on the Notre Dame side, it's

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Speaker 4: I have it as just more than a one possession spread,

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Speaker 4: been a problem for Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. At USC,

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Speaker 4: they're number fifty one this year for me, so that's

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Speaker 4: make the College ball playoffs. USC. You know, the conventional

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Speaker 4: So I think USD can afford to lose this one

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Speaker 2: Won't be able to take my eyes off Old Miss

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Speaker 2: All Right to Tennessee Alabama, BAMA big favorite. They've turned

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Speaker 4: Alabama by a pretty big number. It's an eighty two

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Speaker 2: Awesome stuff. Hey, Kelly, appreciate you joining us the k

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Speaker 5: Keep your coach, then move on. Get an offensive guy,

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Speaker 2: Isn't good enough in Pittsburgh, He's not good enough with

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Speaker 2: just throwing this year, you're throwing next year as well.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't work if you want to win next year.

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Speaker 2: So you have to decide that it's so bad you

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Speaker 2: want to make that sort of transfer transformation. And I

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Speaker 2: don't think SC's close to being there. That's what the

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Speaker 2: Fox says say.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to can live editions of The Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm eastern noon Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: Let's find out who what's annoying Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying.

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Speaker 7: A Doug. A woman by the name of Betty Yee

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Speaker 7: is a Democratic. She's running for a governor in California.

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Speaker 7: She's a nominee candidate. Betty Yee joined Pierce Morgan and

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Speaker 7: a big topic going into the twenty twenty at Olympics.

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Speaker 7: Here is the trans athlete debate and Betty Yee and

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Speaker 7: Pierce Morgan how this exchange?

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Speaker 9: Can you think of a single sport in the Olympics

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Speaker 9: where men would not have an advantage of a woman

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Speaker 9: with the exception potentially of archery.

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Speaker 10: You know, I think you can see female athletes where,

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Speaker 10: particularly on track and field, where agility is probably hang on?

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Speaker 9: Are you suggesting that women so hang on? Do you

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Speaker 9: think that women could could compete against men in track

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Speaker 9: and field like in one hundred meters, two hundred meters,

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Speaker 9: ten thousand meters?

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Speaker 10: Perhaps you know I'm not a sports expert.

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Speaker 9: Of course, have you seen the Have you seen the

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Speaker 9: times that women and men record in the Olympics for

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Speaker 9: all track and field events? Have you watched Usain Bolt

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Speaker 9: when he smashed the world record for the one hundred meters.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so you think women.

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Speaker 9: Could run against Usain Bolt, for example, at his peak

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Speaker 9: and that would be fair.

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Speaker 10: I think. Look, I'm just going to say this, there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of misinformation about the ability of transgender.

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Speaker 9: Wasn't my question. My question was, you've got the Olympics

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Speaker 9: coming to your state. You want to be the California governor.

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Speaker 9: I am actually a resident in California, in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 9: I'm very curious about your response to how you would

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Speaker 9: want the Olympics to be conducted which would be fair

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Speaker 9: and equitable for women. But it seems to me like

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Speaker 9: you would like to remove any any sexual differentation between

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Speaker 9: the Olympic sports. I let them all compete. It would

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Speaker 9: be gender neutral, would it if you were governor?

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Speaker 10: Well, again, I want to be sure that everyone has

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Speaker 10: the ability to compete.

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Speaker 9: Would you have a gender neutral Olympics where you would

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Speaker 9: have not you wouldn't have male and female sport, then

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Speaker 9: you just have one one that everyone could join in.

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't think we're going to get that tomorrow,

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Speaker 10: but I think it's a conversation worth having.

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Speaker 11: I don't.

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Speaker 7: If you're not disturbed by that, then something is wrong

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Speaker 7: with you or you know nothing about how athletics works

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Speaker 7: or the difference in gender.

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Speaker 3: I mean, is she a crazy person? Is she? I

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Speaker 3: don't understand.

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Speaker 7: She's running for governor.

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Speaker 2: No, lots of people can run for governor, but like,

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Speaker 2: what's her background? Clearly not sports or reality of sports.

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Speaker 2: I don't even I'm at a loss. I'm a I'm

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Speaker 2: at a loss. It's a conversation worth having. Why Okay,

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Speaker 2: we had it right, Okay, we had it done.

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Speaker 3: What else?

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Speaker 7: People who go on social media to repost happy birthday

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Speaker 7: so that more of your followers are alerted to the

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Speaker 7: fact that it's your birthday so that you can get

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Speaker 7: more happy birthdays. I'm not on the opposite of that.

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Speaker 7: And as an example, you're never going to catch me

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Speaker 7: it's my birthday today. You're never going to catch me

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Speaker 7: going on a podcast and saying that it's my birthday

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Speaker 7: just so that people listening to this podcast could send

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Speaker 7: me a bunch of messages on social media wishing me

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Speaker 7: happy birthday. And if you do, don't do it all

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Speaker 7: hold it against you. That's not me at all. He's

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Speaker 7: a birthday guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic, but I did

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Speaker 2: wish you happy birthday on social media, and some everybody

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Speaker 2: in the show.

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Speaker 3: Wished it to you on text.

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Speaker 2: So you have reached the These birthdays don't matter except

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Speaker 2: now you're just old right Like you hit fifty I

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Speaker 2: was there.

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Speaker 3: Now you're at what fifty four?

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Speaker 7: Fifty three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty three.

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Speaker 7: So people that beg for birthday wishes on social media?

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Speaker 7: And Betty Yee candidate for the state of California.

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Speaker 3: Betty ye you're a night.

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 11: I do.

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Speaker 1: Because we can.

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Speaker 3: What's because we can?

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Speaker 7: Jayson to Oscar Hernandez is the gift that keeps on

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Speaker 7: giving sports content this I think I called him a

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Speaker 7: fucking idiot on Tuesday on this podcast, and that wasn't

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Speaker 7: received well by some people. I also love him because

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Speaker 7: he hits a lot of home runs in big spots.

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Speaker 7: I have a very complicated relationship with TiO Hernandez, but

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Speaker 7: one thing I was clear this week is that TBS

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Speaker 7: dropped the ball and did not cover his mistake at

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Speaker 7: all during the broadcast, and then tried to make up

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Speaker 7: for it the next night by covering it over covering it.

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Speaker 7: And then TiO Hernandez was on MLB Network and guess

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Speaker 7: what topic came up? That crazy double play, the first

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Speaker 7: eight six' two force play in the history of. Baseball

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Speaker 7: what a crazy play.

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Speaker 11: If you asked, me today's before the, play like what

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Speaker 11: happened in this? Situation SO i just attack? Up but

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Speaker 11: someone it's the, ball so it's a. Glove i'm going

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Speaker 11: that no matter.

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Speaker 3: What he do it with the.

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Speaker 11: Ball but in the, moment you, know the heat of the,

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Speaker 11: game make the mistakes AND i fucked that.

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Speaker 3: Up how much do you love him? NOW i mean

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Speaker 3: how much you love him?

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Speaker 9: Now like, yeah, YEAH i.

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Speaker 3: Fuck that Would, yeah it's so. Good it's so.

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Speaker 2: Good no one do you love? HIM i love him

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Speaker 2: because he And KEY K. Hernandez it's Like Keyky hernandez

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Speaker 2: only appears In Major League. Baseball in my, mind when

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Speaker 2: he gets hits for The dodgers in the, playoffs it's,

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Speaker 2: LIKE i don't know anything else about his. CAREER i

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Speaker 2: think he probably sucks the rest of his. Career but

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Speaker 2: he and Ta oscar but Especially KEY, k they just

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Speaker 2: they do. It they're great in the playoffs for The.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers Taskar Hernandez why can we play that for?

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Speaker 3: You because we. Can that's it for The end of

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Speaker 3: The boats.

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Speaker 2: Podcast check out the radio show every day three to

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Speaker 2: Five eastern twelve two Recipic Fuck Sports, Radio iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: App I'm Doug goalty