Speaker 1: All right, match are happy our listeners, we still have
Speaker 1: Hannah and here part two is dropping now, so here
Speaker 1: is the rest of that conversation. Let's dive in. So
Speaker 1: after the engagement goes down, you know, you guys are
Speaker 1: together for a few days. I'm assuming at that point
Speaker 1: it was good. Obviously you knew he had probably been
Speaker 1: struggling a little bit. But how you had how many
Speaker 1: happy couple of times to get which and for the
Speaker 1: listeners who don't know happy couple, it's a weekend where
Speaker 1: they fly the couple out to la You stay in
Speaker 1: a house for a few days to do couple things
Speaker 1: and to get to know each other because you can't
Speaker 1: be in public. So how many of those weekends that
Speaker 1: you have together? We had, I believe a total of
Speaker 1: three including Australia. Okay. And when you guys are in
Speaker 1: those moments, I'm assuming you were talking about the future
Speaker 1: and making plans about were looking into you know, moving
Speaker 1: in together, looking hand apartments. I mean, we were serious
Speaker 1: and really it was just when the season started was
Speaker 1: when I started, you know, to feel his hesitation, and
Speaker 1: that didn't sit well with me. But there again, he
Speaker 1: was giving me those words of affirmation. To keep me there.
Speaker 1: I'm not a dumbass. I'm not just going to stay
Speaker 1: with someone, you know, just because of a commitment and
Speaker 1: just because I want them. No, he was giving me
Speaker 1: those words of affirmation that kept me there, that kept
Speaker 1: you know, that fueled me to be like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to fight for this. You know, yes we're in
Speaker 1: an you know, yes we're in an abnormal circumstance, but
Speaker 1: you know what, I made this commitment and I love
Speaker 1: you and I'm going to fight for you. You You know,
Speaker 1: That's where all that came from. Did after the season started,
Speaker 1: did y'all have another happy couple couple's weekend? Or was
Speaker 1: the first time y'all saw each other after the season
Speaker 1: started when the breakup happened. We had a happy couple
Speaker 1: the end of December and in January, and then the
Speaker 1: last one was when we broke up. And that was
Speaker 1: like a whole month of not seeing each other, which
Speaker 1: is a lot of why he blamed how he was
Speaker 1: struggling and so walking into that day, you know, I
Speaker 1: even have a voicemail from him saying, you know, I
Speaker 1: love you, can't wait to see you, And going into
Speaker 1: that day, you know, I knew it was going to
Speaker 1: be a tough conversation, and we both even said we
Speaker 1: will move past this. We will, you know, overcome this
Speaker 1: as a couple, you know. And was that the first
Speaker 1: time y'all had the cameras at the Happy Couple Week? Yes,
Speaker 1: so when you saw the cameras, what did you think?
Speaker 1: I knew something was up, but there again, you know,
Speaker 1: through text messages and voicemails, I trusted his word. And
Speaker 1: you know, obviously I'm happy how things ended. I mean, gosh,
Speaker 1: it's miserable with them. I mean I was miserable. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: once January started, or once once January started, because the
Speaker 1: whole wishy washiness started, and I was just like, I
Speaker 1: need someone who knows who they are, who knows what
Speaker 1: they want, and who's not going to be with someone
Speaker 1: just because their mom told him to. How I remember
Speaker 1: being in those moments? How bad was your anxiety in
Speaker 1: that struggle? Because when you can't be with your partner
Speaker 1: and your states away and you know someone struggling, and
Speaker 1: that was that was so hard. And you know, I
Speaker 1: was probably the most anxious that I've ever been because
Speaker 1: you want to make this relationship work, you want to
Speaker 1: just be normal with your partner and you can't. And
Speaker 1: so how did you deal with that? How I dealt
Speaker 1: with it was I was just focusing on you know,
Speaker 1: forward thinking, thinking of the big picture, thinking of us
Speaker 1: ending this together, and the words he was feeding me,
Speaker 1: you know, we will get through this together. You know
Speaker 1: we will. You know, you're my fiance. I love you.
Speaker 1: You know you're the love of my life. That's what
Speaker 1: fed me, you know, to continue this forward with him,
Speaker 1: all of us would have, yeah, get into that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's my fiance, you know, this is a relationship, he's
Speaker 1: my partner. I trust his words, and you know I
Speaker 1: fell for it, and you know, showing up to the breakup,
Speaker 1: I'm like, huh these cameras. But we still made that
Speaker 1: commitment that we were going to, you know, work through it.
Speaker 1: And you know, when he actually sat down and told
Speaker 1: me more of half of the truth he's been telling me,
Speaker 1: which she couldn't give me a full heart, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm topping out. Sorry, I gotta go back to Hannah
Speaker 1: Brown because you brought it up at tonight and far
Speaker 1: so it's because it's a huge that bothered you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then in talking about it tonight, I guess I
Speaker 1: still feel like I don't understand. I know he said
Speaker 1: that he reached out or wanted to talk to her
Speaker 1: for closure, but how did y'all in that? Were you
Speaker 1: just like okay, yes, talk to her? Did you ask again, hey,
Speaker 1: have you talked to her? Like what? Okay? He said
Speaker 1: it to you? But then what the reason why that
Speaker 1: was brought up is because it wasn't just one woman
Speaker 1: involved that we were having to discuss. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: he proposed to me still being in love with Madison
Speaker 1: and still needing closure with Hannah Brown, completely blindsided to that.
Speaker 1: There's three women involved in this, and that was brought
Speaker 1: up because that was a huge part of our relationship
Speaker 1: of him trying to convince me that he needed closure,
Speaker 1: and then I should be understanding of that, and I'm like, hush,
Speaker 1: but that's what I want to talk about, is him
Speaker 1: trying to convince you? Yeah? Yeah, like help us understand that,
Speaker 1: like what, I don't necessarily need to understand what he
Speaker 1: was saying to you to convince you. But how did that?
Speaker 1: Did he say, oh, I talk to her? Or were
Speaker 1: you did you say, okay, I give you my blessing?
Speaker 1: Did you ever follow up? And say have you talked
Speaker 1: to her? What happened? Are you good? They on some
Speaker 1: level had communicated, and he came to me saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I need to speak with Hannah Brown because I need closure.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, why do you need closure? Like
Speaker 1: why you're engaged? Yeah? And I was like, wait, didn't
Speaker 1: you have that on this show? I should? We should
Speaker 1: probably watch this episode. Once I watched the episode, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: where do your feelings stand. He's like, well, we're engaged,
Speaker 1: but I you know, we both just need me and
Speaker 1: Handa Brown both just need closure. And I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 1: well can I is this in person? Is this on
Speaker 1: and off camera? No? Off camera? I'm like okay, Um,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel uncomfortable after watching that last episode
Speaker 1: and now you're saying you need closure. That kind of
Speaker 1: doesn't really sit well with me. We're engaged, Like, we're
Speaker 1: not just dating, we're engaged. So what happened? How did
Speaker 1: it end? It ended in him saying that he needed
Speaker 1: it and that I needed to support him, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, um, I don't know how I quite feel
Speaker 1: about that. And then shortly after that that was where
Speaker 1: the whole we were shifted to our other issue of
Speaker 1: him feeling like he had unresolved issues in regards to
Speaker 1: watching the show. So there was so many issues going on.
Speaker 1: I'm just I was miserable. I'm just like trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who can I talk to? Who can I
Speaker 1: like figure out like am I just being am I
Speaker 1: being too sensitive? Or am I you know, not being
Speaker 1: treated how I deserved? No? Okay, coming to somebody who
Speaker 1: has been in your shoes. There are so many weird
Speaker 1: factors to sort of this sort of relationship where you
Speaker 1: don't know where to turn and to add in all
Speaker 1: these added things. Hannah Brown shouldn't have even been an
Speaker 1: issue at that point. That usual, I shouldn't haven't been
Speaker 1: in an argument at that point. And as this is
Speaker 1: like the season's going on, like how about checking up
Speaker 1: on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling? And then you're
Speaker 1: just having all these issues, you know, seeing Madison in
Speaker 1: your first day, seeing Hannah Brown, now you need to
Speaker 1: talk to her. It's like Colly like, do you think
Speaker 1: he part of my own rock? Do you think part
Speaker 1: of him still loved Hannah Brown? And in that moment, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he had unresolved back then or still in January.
Speaker 1: I think still in January when he was with you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was the argument. And did he say that
Speaker 1: he was in love with her? Okay, he just said
Speaker 1: he needed to talk with her. And I'm just like, what,
Speaker 1: like we're engaged, Like I thought, yeah, that we've moved.
Speaker 1: I thought you've moved past all of that. Like I've
Speaker 1: been completely blindsided, Like here I am. I don't need
Speaker 1: to be contacting two x's about having closure, like I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm ready for you, and like although I wasn't able
Speaker 1: to see the whole season, like the audiences now, like
Speaker 1: I was blindsided to any of this. Well, and you
Speaker 1: should have been his number one priority. That's where his
Speaker 1: heart and his worry and his attention should have lied
Speaker 1: tether it should have lied should like whatever, Yeah you
Speaker 1: know grammar here, but but you should have been the
Speaker 1: number one priority in his life. And it seems like
Speaker 1: multiple things were taken that away. And I feel free
Speaker 1: because I get that. And it's such a shitty feeling.
Speaker 1: And where you say you wanted to be that sport system,
Speaker 1: you wanted to get through together and like you as
Speaker 1: a woman in this position, it's like you still hurt
Speaker 1: and you still struggle, but you don't know who to
Speaker 1: talk to because you can't talk to most people about it,
Speaker 1: and if he's struggling, you can't talk to him constantly
Speaker 1: about it because he's trying to work through his own shit.
Speaker 1: And so who did you talk to? Who did you
Speaker 1: lean on? Really? It was you know what I didn't
Speaker 1: even tell I did not even tell my parents until
Speaker 1: after our breakup because I knew deep down my parents
Speaker 1: would said get out and run, Yeah, run for the hills,
Speaker 1: dodge that bullet. So no one really, I mean, I
Speaker 1: was trying to, you know, for me. I made that
Speaker 1: commitment to him, and I thought we were going to
Speaker 1: be teammates, like this is what we work through together.
Speaker 1: This shouldn't divide us, this should make us stronger. And
Speaker 1: that was kind of what I always tried to do.
Speaker 1: And you know, in a breakup, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: this has to be fifty fifty and I haven't been
Speaker 1: feeling that. You made a comment during that breakup and
Speaker 1: I loved it because it's stuck with me. You said
Speaker 1: I am my own rock, And in that moment, I
Speaker 1: was sitting there like yes, girl, Like if you're not
Speaker 1: getting what you need in this relationship and he can't
Speaker 1: promise all of the things he has told you. You
Speaker 1: have to be your own rock. And so yeah, good
Speaker 1: for you. I mean, I'm sure that it came as
Speaker 1: a blindside and probably one of the hardest breakups because
Speaker 1: it's not easy when you know millions of people are watching.
Speaker 1: But you seem like you still have that strength, and
Speaker 1: so kudos to you like that. I'm very proud of
Speaker 1: you and I and I will say this, like we
Speaker 1: still have much to talk about, but I will say
Speaker 1: this is going to be one of the hardest moments
Speaker 1: in your life, but you will be just fine in
Speaker 1: the future and have all the faith that you will
Speaker 1: like this will only make you stronger and realize what
Speaker 1: you truly deserve in a relationship. Yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: already have. You know, we said it at the top
Speaker 1: of the podcast, you want Tonight, and not just because
Speaker 1: you saw what kind of unraveled after you were on stage,
Speaker 1: but just because maybe you had your voice before, but
Speaker 1: we saw you find your voice and you were very
Speaker 1: matter of facts and you were very it was like
Speaker 1: you knew exactly what you needed to say and what
Speaker 1: he needed to hear, and he literally couldn't respond to it.
Speaker 1: He couldn't defend himself because it was kind of like
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, and you stood up to him
Speaker 1: and said, you took these moments away from me that
Speaker 1: I can't get back. But you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be okay because I'm going to get myself through it.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, that's really what matters,
Speaker 1: Like you can't depend on somebody else. You realize, like
Speaker 1: in those moments, you realize you're stronger than you think.
Speaker 1: So like, kudos to you, I give you a standing ovation.
Speaker 1: If we were on TV right now, But like I
Speaker 1: think America is going to see how you responded. They
Speaker 1: already are right Like, I'm sure you're trending on Twitter
Speaker 1: as we speak. Oh, people are probably then mowing you
Speaker 1: money to buy your own drinks right now. I'm going
Speaker 1: to after this podcast, treat yourself. Take yourself that bottle
Speaker 1: of champagne because you deserve it. Yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: call Kelsey. I'm sure she's getting like a champagne for
Speaker 1: I think me and Kelsey need to go up for
Speaker 1: some champagne later myself. I do have a question though,
Speaker 1: because you did see tonight like you had one moment
Speaker 1: and then it was like it was like that was
Speaker 1: one half and then the second half it was kind
Speaker 1: of what happened after. And I'm pretty sure you saw
Speaker 1: how supportive Barb is of you, whether you watched it
Speaker 1: last night or you saw tonight, how she was clapping
Speaker 1: every single time we were missing. She mentioned she was
Speaker 1: clapping every time you responded to Peter, like against her
Speaker 1: own for you, she was she was giving Peterson And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, like, so, I think people want
Speaker 1: to know the love that she has for you, and
Speaker 1: the love that she has for you is because you
Speaker 1: love her son, loved her son unconditionally, and that's all
Speaker 1: a mother really wants to see. And I get they're
Speaker 1: not in the relationship and that's a whole and you know,
Speaker 1: you and Peter have your own relationship outside of that,
Speaker 1: but that's what a mother wants for her child and
Speaker 1: she saw that in you. Have you talked to Barbe
Speaker 1: since then? Tell the truth? And by that I mean
Speaker 1: I'm talking ms, I'm talking comments, I'm docking texts Barbe
Speaker 1: After a breakup, she definitely reached out a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I ended up. You know, I love Barbe. I do too.
Speaker 1: I honestly I could break down crying just thinking about
Speaker 1: her right now because I miss her so much. But
Speaker 1: I knew that forgiveness is the only way forward, and
Speaker 1: I needed to work on leading up to this day
Speaker 1: to forgive Peter and to move forward. And doing that
Speaker 1: is you know, isolating myself from anyone close to him.
Speaker 1: And I can't you know, continue to talk to Barb
Speaker 1: every day, you know, if I'm trying to move forward
Speaker 1: from Peter. And you know, that's been also a heartbreak,
Speaker 1: you know, not being able to you know, be a
Speaker 1: part of Barbe in her life. I mean that's also
Speaker 1: a heartbreak and a breakup and its own self. And
Speaker 1: you know, Barb, she's a really special person and she's
Speaker 1: just looking out for a son. She just wants someone
Speaker 1: to love her son and you know, to root for
Speaker 1: his own happiness and to you know, be in a
Speaker 1: relationship with him for the right reasons. I love to
Speaker 1: hear you say that, because she's getting such a bad
Speaker 1: rap because of like I understood where her heart was
Speaker 1: and what she was saying. Maybe she went just a
Speaker 1: little too far, but I know she was coming from
Speaker 1: a good place. And are so crazed over Madison that
Speaker 1: nobody is listening to what she's actually saying. So it's
Speaker 1: very nice to hear you give a different side, in
Speaker 1: the softer side of her. Becca and I both talked
Speaker 1: to Barbe as well. We adore her, Yes, And it's
Speaker 1: just a shame kind of what I knew tonight. She
Speaker 1: was being very defensive because of the hate that she's
Speaker 1: receiving online, and she's just trying to tell her side
Speaker 1: of it and it's just not being received at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean quite honestly. I mean this has come from
Speaker 1: an ex fiance of Peters, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Peter deserves the world and deserves someone that will love
Speaker 1: him with their whole heart and be there for the
Speaker 1: right reasons. And that's where me and Barbe, you know, connect. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you, do you think that that's Madison.
Speaker 1: I don't know her heart. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I guess I never really knew if she
Speaker 1: loved him or not. I mean, she walked away from him,
Speaker 1: But for me, I love Peter and I was never
Speaker 1: going to leave his side, even through the worst. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what barb'sall in me, and that's what
Speaker 1: she you know, That's what any mother wants for their son,
Speaker 1: is someone to be with them, that's gonna unconditionally love him.
Speaker 1: I want to know now since because tonight was the
Speaker 1: first time you saw Peter and his family since yeah,
Speaker 1: the end of January, so I can barely look over
Speaker 1: at his family. I knew if I looked at rest family,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna start crying. But how was in
Speaker 1: that moment sitting next to him, Yeah, did you still
Speaker 1: have those feelings of some sort of lingering love or
Speaker 1: are you now to the point I guess I want
Speaker 1: to know where you're at, Like, are you at the
Speaker 1: point where you're like, I wish you the best? I mean,
Speaker 1: as much as it sucked, thank you for doing what
Speaker 1: you were doing. Yes, yeah, I'll always have, you know,
Speaker 1: a special place for him. But I mean, he's betrayed me,
Speaker 1: misled me, and that alone has and watching back the season,
Speaker 1: that really resolved a lot of like extra feelings I
Speaker 1: had for him. I mean, just I'm watching a play
Speaker 1: by play of me getting deceived and that alone, it was,
Speaker 1: you know, a slap in the face, and it's helped
Speaker 1: me move forward, but you know, to be honest, when
Speaker 1: I looked over at his family, yeah, I did, you know,
Speaker 1: when I start to cry and just you know, I
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, me and Peter just had this
Speaker 1: awesome situation and it was like stripped away from me
Speaker 1: so quickly. You know, it was a future that I lost,
Speaker 1: but more importantly, it was the loss of a person
Speaker 1: I thought he was. And I think that's what I'm
Speaker 1: grieving over, is the person I thought he was, you know,
Speaker 1: telling me to trust him, and the words he you know,
Speaker 1: gave me that I trusted him were completely um. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to call it lies or
Speaker 1: if you just want to call it shallow that we
Speaker 1: all thought. Yeah, I mean it's been it's been very difficult.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine. And I think that that's what's
Speaker 1: so therapeutic Forbecca to be here in this podcast and
Speaker 1: to talk to you, because she knows exactly what it
Speaker 1: is that you're going through. You know, I'm a viewer.
Speaker 1: I only watch it and I can only empathize with you.
Speaker 1: It's just it's troubling because we talked to Peter before
Speaker 1: the season or while he was still filming, and then
Speaker 1: right when the season started, and I remember we were
Speaker 1: saying that more than anything for him, we wanted him
Speaker 1: to find love because we know how badly he wanted it,
Speaker 1: and we know that he wanted someone to love him unconditionally.
Speaker 1: That's what he said, That's what he told us, and
Speaker 1: he had it, and then he let it go like
Speaker 1: and then he still doesn't have it. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: just be honest. I saw what I saw. What I
Speaker 1: saw tonight, he still doesn't have He said it, you
Speaker 1: loved him in a way that he has never been
Speaker 1: loved before. Well, I would assume that that means the present.
Speaker 1: Did he not say that tonight before? I literally you,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he is with mathis because we
Speaker 1: still didn't get, you know, like a definitive answer. Basically,
Speaker 1: he was still saying, you loved him in a way
Speaker 1: that she didn't, and that's what you want it and
Speaker 1: you had it, and then you still chase something, which
Speaker 1: don't get me started on how I think that's the
Speaker 1: issue with man and that's why the bachelors are not
Speaker 1: successful because they're always chasing something that they can never get,
Speaker 1: and that's why we only have only had two that
Speaker 1: are married at this point and didn't pick the first one. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't play yeah, yes, of course, John's
Speaker 1: the like rare, beautiful fight. I don't play the whole
Speaker 1: chasing game. I mean, I understand you can't, you know,
Speaker 1: give to a man everything they want. But also at
Speaker 1: the same time, I don't play games either like you
Speaker 1: or I don't you know what I say to you,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very clear, I'm concise, and I expect
Speaker 1: that a return. Yeah, that's my standards. Yeats, just be
Speaker 1: honest with me. I'm gonna be honest with you back
Speaker 1: you guys girls on this show all they want is
Speaker 1: honestly why they don't drag me along. And that's what's
Speaker 1: so troubling about what happened this season is, Peter, you
Speaker 1: came from a season where the lead all she wanted
Speaker 1: was to be loved and loved unconditionally and me, it's not.
Speaker 1: And you came. Peter came from a season where there
Speaker 1: was a lead who was saying, I just want to
Speaker 1: be loved and I want someone to give that to
Speaker 1: me unconditionally, and Peter gave that to her. And then
Speaker 1: she chose Jit, which I can just put a period there.
Speaker 1: We all know what came with that, and I would
Speaker 1: think that going through that hurt that you come into
Speaker 1: your season saying I want to make sure that I
Speaker 1: don't make that same mistake, and here you are. It
Speaker 1: sucks to be in a place of wondering and here
Speaker 1: he is in a place where now it's like unknown,
Speaker 1: you don't know, you're one wondering and with you he
Speaker 1: didn't have that. And what also message makes me so
Speaker 1: upset is when we talk to him, he said, remember this, Becca,
Speaker 1: you know who did you first? Two things? Who did
Speaker 1: you pick? Because he was still with you at this point,
Speaker 1: and I think we're like, who did you pick? Like
Speaker 1: trying to I can't tell you. Then he said we
Speaker 1: might have said did you always know? We talked about
Speaker 1: like our own situation, and he said he has known
Speaker 1: since week four who his person was? Well, he was
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, like the season. I don't even think
Speaker 1: an episode when we filmed it, an episode had not
Speaker 1: aired yet, so he was talking about you. So you
Speaker 1: have known from week four. There are nine ten weeks
Speaker 1: of filming, So for what how do the math? Six
Speaker 1: weeks you knew exactly who it was that you were
Speaker 1: going to pick, Yet you still went back in time
Speaker 1: and you watched it and you put yourself like It's
Speaker 1: like Becca and I can talk about this. It's the
Speaker 1: classic thing of a league. You you watch it, but
Speaker 1: you never go back and put your yourself in it
Speaker 1: because months have passed, Yeah, since you felt those same emotions.
Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah, And it's and it's a weird thing
Speaker 1: when you watch it back when you're going on certain
Speaker 1: dates with certain people. Sometimes it's easy to like feel
Speaker 1: the feelings you felt in that moment, like yes, but
Speaker 1: be smarter, like realize that was months ago. You came
Speaker 1: to this decision and these choices for a certain reason.
Speaker 1: And for him, I hoped that in the moment he
Speaker 1: saw like how different him and Maddie were, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were everything he was saying he wanted. And so
Speaker 1: that's where I think it's harder for the men to
Speaker 1: separate themselves and to realize, oh, that was so long ago,
Speaker 1: and I can't like I. And this is one thing
Speaker 1: that already kept saying too that I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: Peter said, but he wanted to um what was the
Speaker 1: phrase he used. He wanted to like feel out all
Speaker 1: of the relationships till the very end to go through
Speaker 1: everything to get to that point where he knew who
Speaker 1: who it was or what his decision would be. And
Speaker 1: it's like they watched this back and they have this
Speaker 1: skewed timeline in their minds and they think that it's
Speaker 1: really happening when in reality, like, no, this happened three
Speaker 1: months ago. And my question is, and this is what
Speaker 1: I want to ask you. This is not related to
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about right now, but if you were Maddie,
Speaker 1: granted you guys are very different people, if you were
Speaker 1: in her position, would you take him back after everything
Speaker 1: went down and all play out of how it did,
Speaker 1: would you take him back? And you know, if you
Speaker 1: look back on this season, you see Peter's pattern of
Speaker 1: behavior being consistently indecisive and confused, and I'd be running
Speaker 1: for the hills. Yeah, exactly, I mean I would. I mean,
Speaker 1: even girl, even if he's saying he's loving you and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, I mean, look at his pattern of behavior. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one consistency he has ever had is being confused, conflicted,
Speaker 1: and torn. His consistency is inconsistency. Yes, And if you
Speaker 1: want to ride that emotional roller coaster with him, go
Speaker 1: for it. I just got off of it, and it's
Speaker 1: a wild ride pever if things for whatever. Again, we
Speaker 1: don't know what the deal is with him in Madison
Speaker 1: at this point. If things don't work out, do you
Speaker 1: think he would come back to you? Because we saw it.
Speaker 1: He still isn't clearly over Hannah Brown. He was never
Speaker 1: over Madison, honestly, you guys, I don't put anything past
Speaker 1: Peter whatever. I don't. He's just like so all over
Speaker 1: the blace. He's so low. You ended it perfectly when
Speaker 1: you were like Peter, Hannah's like enough, Like it's a
Speaker 1: confused face any longer you had enough, and that's what
Speaker 1: it was, such a powerful moment, like no, your words
Speaker 1: don't mean anything, they have no weight. At this point,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see where you
Speaker 1: go from here, because again, you want tonight, thank you, truly.
Speaker 1: The indecisiveness is not something that anybody wants to see
Speaker 1: their friend, daughter, sister, whatever go through. And I think
Speaker 1: that watching this back, you're like, that's not the type
Speaker 1: of man that I thought Peter wasn't. That's not what
Speaker 1: I want to sign up for. And it's very troubling
Speaker 1: for us because I like Peter, I think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: considered him a little brother, But when I look at
Speaker 1: what's happening now in his situation with Madison, It's something
Speaker 1: we've said from the beginning. The men like the idea
Speaker 1: of somebody, but not the reality, and they don't think
Speaker 1: about who works in real life, and they just get
Speaker 1: caught up in this fantasy. And once the bubble is burst,
Speaker 1: then it doesn't work. And I just don't know how
Speaker 1: this situation can work. The problem is is that when
Speaker 1: we talk to Bastelnation, we're talking to a room full
Speaker 1: of hopeless romantics and they just see a love story
Speaker 1: and that's what they wish for, and they don't think
Speaker 1: logistically like how this can work and the reality of
Speaker 1: the situation. And I think that when we end this
Speaker 1: podcast and you move on and you go home, actually
Speaker 1: I think it's so you moved to la We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that in a second. But you know, when you
Speaker 1: leave here, you're going to see how people are going
Speaker 1: to rally behind you, and how you were strong and
Speaker 1: you were an example, and mothers are going to say,
Speaker 1: that's what I want my daughter to be, and I
Speaker 1: want her to respond to men like that and know
Speaker 1: her self worth and not compromise who she is, which
Speaker 1: is the title they're giving me Madison, which can I
Speaker 1: just say is such a contradiction. We are crowning Madison
Speaker 1: because she knows who she is and she doesn't want
Speaker 1: to compromise her values for somebody. But I'm sorry for
Speaker 1: her to go back to Peter is not exactly what
Speaker 1: she just did. Oh, don't get me started. Anyways. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm going somewhere with this, people. I was saying, people
Speaker 1: are going to rally behind you for what you did,
Speaker 1: and they should. Then you're going to have the people
Speaker 1: who are fanatics and they're going to rally behind Madison
Speaker 1: and Peter as hopeless romantics. But then you're going to
Speaker 1: see a lot of hate also. And the villain, unfortunately
Speaker 1: and in my opinion, unnecessarily, has become Barb because of
Speaker 1: what happened the first night of the finale, the first
Speaker 1: part and then into the second part. Do you agree
Speaker 1: with the online hate that Barbe is getting and this
Speaker 1: she's going to continue to get. I think that's completely
Speaker 1: you know, the online hate Barb's getting is completely unnecessary.
Speaker 1: I mean, take that hate somewhere else. She's looking after
Speaker 1: for her son, and no one needs to judge her
Speaker 1: for that ever, and everyone loves their babies. Everyone, I
Speaker 1: think in that position would need to back off of her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would want the very best for their son or daughter. Um,
Speaker 1: Hannah Anne. As as Rachel said, you sorry, I interrupt
Speaker 1: this program to let you know. Remember I said people
Speaker 1: are gonna round it behind you. Okay. I guess I
Speaker 1: was a little too general. Not people. Someone has said,
Speaker 1: quote I love Hannah Anne with four exclamation points? Who
Speaker 1: give it to us? Rage? Who's the one person you
Speaker 1: would want to hear from. Who's iconic in this in
Speaker 1: this day and age? I don't know, tell me, tell
Speaker 1: me starts the k Okay, I'm gonna say a Kardashian
Speaker 1: it is? Oh what? Um? Is it? Chris? Is it
Speaker 1: the mall bear? No? Kylie Kim Kim Kim Kardashi West
Speaker 1: said twenty one minute ago, quote I love Hannah an
Speaker 1: exclamation I mean podcast? Okay, he wasn't already winning, damn,
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian West. Can Hannah Ann get some scams some what?
Speaker 1: What else are we serving here? I can get them to?
Speaker 1: That's that's huge. Wow, Wow, that's huge. That's another. Don't
Speaker 1: even think the Queen herself. Kim Kardashian, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Christian is a huge fan of the show. Oh really yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like Kylie, all of them. So listen. If another boss,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we curse on this podcast. If one boss
Speaker 1: ass bitch is going to tell you that you're a boss,
Speaker 1: you better wear the crown. Oh my god again, whitter
Speaker 1: you wan tonight? My goodness, I promise you this. You
Speaker 1: are going to wake up tomorrow and first of all,
Speaker 1: your phone is going to be blowing up, so maybe
Speaker 1: turn it off. Takes some time for yourself, but you
Speaker 1: are gonna look at headlines and your name is going
Speaker 1: to be splattered across so many of them in the
Speaker 1: best way. But as Rachel said, people are going to
Speaker 1: rally behind you. People are gonna want you to find
Speaker 1: so much love you. We're gonna be infiltrated with so
Speaker 1: much support. When I say that, you think like what
Speaker 1: went down was the hardest moment in your life, it's
Speaker 1: gonna get so much better. And there's gonna be so
Speaker 1: many moments where you're gonna be blindsided in the best
Speaker 1: possible way, and your breath is gonna be taken away
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be like, oh my gosh, this person
Speaker 1: gave me this, these kind words, and they want me
Speaker 1: to find love. They want me to find a partner.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's gonna be in the weirdest way as possible.
Speaker 1: You can't even imagine, Like so many crazy, cool things
Speaker 1: have come, I mean from my breakup, which was the
Speaker 1: weirdest moment in my life. But like, your heart is
Speaker 1: gonna be filled in ways that Peter could never have
Speaker 1: filled it. I'll tell you that. Yeah I love that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really do. But now we have to hear what
Speaker 1: is next in your life? Are you moving to Allay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I actually moved this week, so like I was like
Speaker 1: just buying me a one a one white ticket and
Speaker 1: so I move in and literally Thursday good. And you know,
Speaker 1: for me, I gotta keep it moving. You know, the
Speaker 1: situation's unfortunate, and you know, I gave myself a good
Speaker 1: couple of days and cried NonStop, and then I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, Peter wasted you know, and I love you.
Speaker 1: He wasted an engagement, but he's not wasting anymore my tears. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta focus. You're gonna be You're gonna be an
Speaker 1: inspiration to so many girls out there and even for me,
Speaker 1: somebody who has been in a similar position. I looked
Speaker 1: up to you tonight and I really I rallied behind you,
Speaker 1: and I truly do want the best for you, but
Speaker 1: to see how you handled that situation in that darkness.
Speaker 1: But everyone has been through a breakup. Everyone has felt
Speaker 1: that sadness and that darkness, and they felt like where
Speaker 1: do I turn to now? And they're going to look
Speaker 1: up to you and they will reach out to you,
Speaker 1: and so you are going to be a point of
Speaker 1: light for them and that's something really really special. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Listen you too, definitely, I mean you can talk to
Speaker 1: you too. But I'm just saying, like you guys share
Speaker 1: something that other people. But she's glowing like this is
Speaker 1: what you're glowing out too. But I'm just saying like
Speaker 1: this could be you too. And I think also you
Speaker 1: said something about he took away this moment for you
Speaker 1: in this engagement. Don't look at it that way, because honestly,
Speaker 1: if you didn't take away myself worth, he didn't take
Speaker 1: away yourself forth. But also he really didn't take this
Speaker 1: engagement away from you because he never really gave himself
Speaker 1: to you in that moment. Just think of it like that.
Speaker 1: He didn't take that away from you. You still have that,
Speaker 1: so hold on to that. I was so I mean,
Speaker 1: it was so so proud of you in that moment.
Speaker 1: And moving on, you got LA, you got a new place,
Speaker 1: you know, you have this new platform. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: an agent, hopefully hopefully. Sorry did you do not already
Speaker 1: have an agent like somebody else? Do you not already
Speaker 1: have an agent in this situation or waiting to talk
Speaker 1: about it? I'm so please, don't get any such I
Speaker 1: don't have an agent, right So it's not so not
Speaker 1: everybody comes off the Bachelor with an agent. No, Well,
Speaker 1: come back to that part in a second. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, And if anyone needs to know who Rachel
Speaker 1: is talking about, there's only two girls on stage tonight
Speaker 1: and it's on Hannah. I don't have anyone right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just I was just trying to focus on getting
Speaker 1: through this past week, you know, I mean, I left
Speaker 1: that breakup feeling like a bunch of broken pieces, and
Speaker 1: I've taken time to like rebuild myself, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm still rebuilding. I'm still you know, feeling pain every day.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm strong and just like I told Peter,
Speaker 1: I'm own rock and I'll get through it while he's
Speaker 1: kicking rocks. So we're not So we're not looking for love.
Speaker 1: You're just like all about loving yourself. But I've not dated.
Speaker 1: I've just been surrounding myself with like friends and family
Speaker 1: that are consistent and that are true to their word
Speaker 1: and that are nice and uplifting. But hey, you know
Speaker 1: that's definitely in my feature. Hopefully with the right person, right,
Speaker 1: I better be the right guy because now I had
Speaker 1: like this big sister mentality over you and so taking
Speaker 1: ship from many guys, she's stronger, Like you're stronger than
Speaker 1: you think. You've learned so much from this opportunity. Like
Speaker 1: we're so excited to see I can't where you go
Speaker 1: from here. You're in La, the land of opportunity. But
Speaker 1: but he and I do live in southern California now,
Speaker 1: So just know, when I'm done with this bachelor, I
Speaker 1: want stage. Sure, I'm taking you. Invite Kelsey too, We're
Speaker 1: going out, Okay by making you date me? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I would love that well. And it's crazy because like
Speaker 1: after our breakup, I thought about you every single day,
Speaker 1: every single day. And this is grist. I tell you,
Speaker 1: you know, you know confidentiality and about you, and I
Speaker 1: knew there would be the right. You really are a
Speaker 1: good bat guy. Okay, I'm gonna give you a numb
Speaker 1: after this week in chat and seriously every day, and
Speaker 1: you know, I wish I would have known her. I
Speaker 1: mean I kind of heard Inklands like in the past
Speaker 1: couple of days, but I really do wish I would
Speaker 1: have known her one percent. I would have DMed you.
Speaker 1: I would have reached out. Oh my shit, it's I'm
Speaker 1: a little emotional. That's it's like, really beauty. I'm just
Speaker 1: so glad you guys gonna have this moment. We'll listen,
Speaker 1: We're gonna let them have this moment. Off Mike, We're
Speaker 1: gonna in this podcast. But I just had to say,
Speaker 1: it's just such a pleasure to get to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I have to see, like I said I was at
Speaker 1: the beginning, I was wrong. We started off the podcast
Speaker 1: talking about that. But it has really been a great
Speaker 1: thing to see you find your voice and to see
Speaker 1: you grow and to see where you go from here.
Speaker 1: So again, you won the day you did. Thank you
Speaker 1: guys for having me well, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: As I mean, I can't ever top Rachel because she's
Speaker 1: just so good with words for Hanny and you, really
Speaker 1: you are a light to so many people. I really
Speaker 1: looked up to you tonight, even though I, you know,
Speaker 1: could be like you're much much older, sister, But thank
Speaker 1: you for being you. Thank you for seeing in your
Speaker 1: ground and showing girls out there what a strong voice
Speaker 1: can be. And I wish you all the best. I
Speaker 1: have no worries that you will be just fine in
Speaker 1: your future, but thank you. I'm glad that we were
Speaker 1: your first podcast, and we stole your podcast, Virginity yep,
Speaker 1: heard eyes. Oh gosh, I don't know, you have to ask.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the future holds, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be better than what I've had. She's being cool in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. You gonna wait a second, You wait
Speaker 1: a second. I mean, who knows, but it's gonna be
Speaker 1: better than what I've had, and that's what I hold
Speaker 1: on to you. No, that's right, all right, you guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning in to Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: As you can see, we had such a great time
Speaker 1: just hanging out after the final rows talking to Hannah
Speaker 1: and she's just been so open and honest with us
Speaker 1: and giving us all the tea as well. She did
Speaker 1: not hold back. So thank you so much for being
Speaker 1: here with us, and like we said, we just can't
Speaker 1: wait to see what you have going on for you
Speaker 1: in the future. We're fans, huge fans. Yes, thank you,
Speaker 1: Hannah Hand