1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: All right, match are happy our listeners, we still have 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Hannah and here part two is dropping now, so here 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: is the rest of that conversation. Let's dive in. So 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: after the engagement goes down, you know, you guys are 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: together for a few days. I'm assuming at that point 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: it was good. Obviously you knew he had probably been 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: struggling a little bit. But how you had how many 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: happy couple of times to get which and for the 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: listeners who don't know happy couple, it's a weekend where 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: they fly the couple out to la You stay in 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: a house for a few days to do couple things 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: and to get to know each other because you can't 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: be in public. So how many of those weekends that 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: you have together? We had, I believe a total of 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: three including Australia. Okay. And when you guys are in 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: those moments, I'm assuming you were talking about the future 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: and making plans about were looking into you know, moving 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: in together, looking hand apartments. I mean, we were serious 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: and really it was just when the season started was 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: when I started, you know, to feel his hesitation, and 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: that didn't sit well with me. But there again, he 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: was giving me those words of affirmation. To keep me there. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a dumbass. I'm not just going to stay 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: with someone, you know, just because of a commitment and 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: just because I want them. No, he was giving me 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: those words of affirmation that kept me there, that kept 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: you know, that fueled me to be like, Okay, I'm 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: going to fight for this. You know, yes we're in 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: an you know, yes we're in an abnormal circumstance, but 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: you know what, I made this commitment and I love 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: you and I'm going to fight for you. You You know, 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: That's where all that came from. Did after the season started, 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: did y'all have another happy couple couple's weekend? Or was 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: the first time y'all saw each other after the season 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: started when the breakup happened. We had a happy couple 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the end of December and in January, and then the 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: last one was when we broke up. And that was 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: like a whole month of not seeing each other, which 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: is a lot of why he blamed how he was 40 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: struggling and so walking into that day, you know, I 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: even have a voicemail from him saying, you know, I 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: love you, can't wait to see you, And going into 43 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: that day, you know, I knew it was going to 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: be a tough conversation, and we both even said we 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: will move past this. We will, you know, overcome this 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: as a couple, you know. And was that the first 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: time y'all had the cameras at the Happy Couple Week? Yes, 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: so when you saw the cameras, what did you think? 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I knew something was up, but there again, you know, 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: through text messages and voicemails, I trusted his word. And 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I'm happy how things ended. I mean, gosh, 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: it's miserable with them. I mean I was miserable. Really, Yeah, 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: once January started, or once once January started, because the 54 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: whole wishy washiness started, and I was just like, I 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: need someone who knows who they are, who knows what 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: they want, and who's not going to be with someone 57 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: just because their mom told him to. How I remember 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: being in those moments? How bad was your anxiety in 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: that struggle? Because when you can't be with your partner 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: and your states away and you know someone struggling, and 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: that was that was so hard. And you know, I 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: was probably the most anxious that I've ever been because 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: you want to make this relationship work, you want to 64 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: just be normal with your partner and you can't. And 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: so how did you deal with that? How I dealt 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: with it was I was just focusing on you know, 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: forward thinking, thinking of the big picture, thinking of us 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: ending this together, and the words he was feeding me, 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, we will get through this together. You know 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: we will. You know, you're my fiance. I love you. 71 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: You know you're the love of my life. That's what 72 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: fed me, you know, to continue this forward with him, 73 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: all of us would have, yeah, get into that. I mean, 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: he's my fiance, you know, this is a relationship, he's 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: my partner. I trust his words, and you know I 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: fell for it, and you know, showing up to the breakup, 77 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, huh these cameras. But we still made that 78 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: commitment that we were going to, you know, work through it. 79 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: And you know, when he actually sat down and told 80 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: me more of half of the truth he's been telling me, 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: which she couldn't give me a full heart, I was like, 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm topping out. Sorry, I gotta go back to Hannah 83 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Brown because you brought it up at tonight and far 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: so it's because it's a huge that bothered you. Yeah, 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: And then in talking about it tonight, I guess I 86 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: still feel like I don't understand. I know he said 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: that he reached out or wanted to talk to her 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: for closure, but how did y'all in that? Were you 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: just like okay, yes, talk to her? Did you ask again, hey, 90 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: have you talked to her? Like what? Okay? He said 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: it to you? But then what the reason why that 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: was brought up is because it wasn't just one woman 93 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: involved that we were having to discuss. It was, you know, 94 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: he proposed to me still being in love with Madison 95 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: and still needing closure with Hannah Brown, completely blindsided to that. 96 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: There's three women involved in this, and that was brought 97 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: up because that was a huge part of our relationship 98 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: of him trying to convince me that he needed closure, 99 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: and then I should be understanding of that, and I'm like, hush, 100 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: but that's what I want to talk about, is him 101 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: trying to convince you? Yeah? Yeah, like help us understand that, 102 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: like what, I don't necessarily need to understand what he 103 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: was saying to you to convince you. But how did that? 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Did he say, oh, I talk to her? Or were 105 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: you did you say, okay, I give you my blessing? 106 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: Did you ever follow up? And say have you talked 107 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: to her? What happened? Are you good? They on some 108 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: level had communicated, and he came to me saying, you know, 109 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I need to speak with Hannah Brown because I need closure. 110 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, why do you need closure? Like 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: why you're engaged? Yeah? And I was like, wait, didn't 112 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: you have that on this show? I should? We should 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: probably watch this episode. Once I watched the episode, I'm like, well, 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: where do your feelings stand. He's like, well, we're engaged, 115 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: but I you know, we both just need me and 116 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Handa Brown both just need closure. And I'm just like, okay, 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: well can I is this in person? Is this on 118 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: and off camera? No? Off camera? I'm like okay, Um, 119 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: I kind of feel uncomfortable after watching that last episode 120 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: and now you're saying you need closure. That kind of 121 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: doesn't really sit well with me. We're engaged, Like, we're 122 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: not just dating, we're engaged. So what happened? How did 123 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: it end? It ended in him saying that he needed 124 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: it and that I needed to support him, and I'm 125 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: just like, um, I don't know how I quite feel 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: about that. And then shortly after that that was where 127 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: the whole we were shifted to our other issue of 128 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: him feeling like he had unresolved issues in regards to 129 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: watching the show. So there was so many issues going on. 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm just I was miserable. I'm just like trying to 131 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: figure out who can I talk to? Who can I 132 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: like figure out like am I just being am I 133 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: being too sensitive? Or am I you know, not being 134 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: treated how I deserved? No? Okay, coming to somebody who 135 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: has been in your shoes. There are so many weird 136 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: factors to sort of this sort of relationship where you 137 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: don't know where to turn and to add in all 138 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: these added things. Hannah Brown shouldn't have even been an 139 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: issue at that point. That usual, I shouldn't haven't been 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: in an argument at that point. And as this is 141 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: like the season's going on, like how about checking up 142 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling? And then you're 143 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: just having all these issues, you know, seeing Madison in 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: your first day, seeing Hannah Brown, now you need to 145 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: talk to her. It's like Colly like, do you think 146 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: he part of my own rock? Do you think part 147 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: of him still loved Hannah Brown? And in that moment, yeah, 148 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: I think he had unresolved back then or still in January. 149 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: I think still in January when he was with you, Yeah, 150 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: and that was the argument. And did he say that 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: he was in love with her? Okay, he just said 152 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: he needed to talk with her. And I'm just like, what, 153 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: like we're engaged, Like I thought, yeah, that we've moved. 154 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: I thought you've moved past all of that. Like I've 155 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: been completely blindsided, Like here I am. I don't need 156 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: to be contacting two x's about having closure, like I'm here, 157 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 1: I'm ready for you, and like although I wasn't able 158 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: to see the whole season, like the audiences now, like 159 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: I was blindsided to any of this. Well, and you 160 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: should have been his number one priority. That's where his 161 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: heart and his worry and his attention should have lied 162 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: tether it should have lied should like whatever, Yeah you 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: know grammar here, but but you should have been the 164 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: number one priority in his life. And it seems like 165 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: multiple things were taken that away. And I feel free 166 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: because I get that. And it's such a shitty feeling. 167 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: And where you say you wanted to be that sport system, 168 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: you wanted to get through together and like you as 169 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: a woman in this position, it's like you still hurt 170 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: and you still struggle, but you don't know who to 171 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: talk to because you can't talk to most people about it, 172 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: and if he's struggling, you can't talk to him constantly 173 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: about it because he's trying to work through his own shit. 174 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: And so who did you talk to? Who did you 175 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: lean on? Really? It was you know what I didn't 176 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: even tell I did not even tell my parents until 177 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: after our breakup because I knew deep down my parents 178 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: would said get out and run, Yeah, run for the hills, 179 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: dodge that bullet. So no one really, I mean, I 180 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: was trying to, you know, for me. I made that 181 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: commitment to him, and I thought we were going to 182 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: be teammates, like this is what we work through together. 183 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: This shouldn't divide us, this should make us stronger. And 184 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: that was kind of what I always tried to do. 185 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: And you know, in a breakup, I said, you know, 186 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: this has to be fifty fifty and I haven't been 187 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: feeling that. You made a comment during that breakup and 188 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I loved it because it's stuck with me. You said 189 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: I am my own rock, And in that moment, I 190 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: was sitting there like yes, girl, Like if you're not 191 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: getting what you need in this relationship and he can't 192 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: promise all of the things he has told you. You 193 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: have to be your own rock. And so yeah, good 194 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: for you. I mean, I'm sure that it came as 195 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: a blindside and probably one of the hardest breakups because 196 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: it's not easy when you know millions of people are watching. 197 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: But you seem like you still have that strength, and 198 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: so kudos to you like that. I'm very proud of 199 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: you and I and I will say this, like we 200 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: still have much to talk about, but I will say 201 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: this is going to be one of the hardest moments 202 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: in your life, but you will be just fine in 203 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: the future and have all the faith that you will 204 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: like this will only make you stronger and realize what 205 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: you truly deserve in a relationship. Yeah, I think you 206 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: already have. You know, we said it at the top 207 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: of the podcast, you want Tonight, and not just because 208 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: you saw what kind of unraveled after you were on stage, 209 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: but just because maybe you had your voice before, but 210 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: we saw you find your voice and you were very 211 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: matter of facts and you were very it was like 212 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: you knew exactly what you needed to say and what 213 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: he needed to hear, and he literally couldn't respond to it. 214 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: He couldn't defend himself because it was kind of like 215 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, and you stood up to him 216 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: and said, you took these moments away from me that 217 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: I can't get back. But you know what, I'm gonna 218 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: be okay because I'm going to get myself through it. 219 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, that's really what matters, 220 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: Like you can't depend on somebody else. You realize, like 221 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: in those moments, you realize you're stronger than you think. 222 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: So like, kudos to you, I give you a standing ovation. 223 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: If we were on TV right now, But like I 224 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: think America is going to see how you responded. They 225 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: already are right Like, I'm sure you're trending on Twitter 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: as we speak. Oh, people are probably then mowing you 227 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: money to buy your own drinks right now. I'm going 228 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: to after this podcast, treat yourself. Take yourself that bottle 229 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: of champagne because you deserve it. Yeah, I mean, you 230 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: call Kelsey. I'm sure she's getting like a champagne for 231 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: I think me and Kelsey need to go up for 232 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: some champagne later myself. I do have a question though, 233 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: because you did see tonight like you had one moment 234 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: and then it was like it was like that was 235 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: one half and then the second half it was kind 236 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: of what happened after. And I'm pretty sure you saw 237 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: how supportive Barb is of you, whether you watched it 238 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: last night or you saw tonight, how she was clapping 239 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: every single time we were missing. She mentioned she was 240 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: clapping every time you responded to Peter, like against her 241 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: own for you, she was she was giving Peterson And 242 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, like, so, I think people want 243 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: to know the love that she has for you, and 244 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: the love that she has for you is because you 245 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: love her son, loved her son unconditionally, and that's all 246 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: a mother really wants to see. And I get they're 247 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: not in the relationship and that's a whole and you know, 248 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: you and Peter have your own relationship outside of that, 249 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: but that's what a mother wants for her child and 250 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: she saw that in you. Have you talked to Barbe 251 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: since then? Tell the truth? And by that I mean 252 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking ms, I'm talking comments, I'm docking texts Barbe 253 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: After a breakup, she definitely reached out a couple of times. 254 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: I ended up. You know, I love Barbe. I do too. 255 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: I honestly I could break down crying just thinking about 256 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: her right now because I miss her so much. But 257 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: I knew that forgiveness is the only way forward, and 258 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: I needed to work on leading up to this day 259 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: to forgive Peter and to move forward. And doing that 260 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: is you know, isolating myself from anyone close to him. 261 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: And I can't you know, continue to talk to Barb 262 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: every day, you know, if I'm trying to move forward 263 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: from Peter. And you know, that's been also a heartbreak, 264 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, not being able to you know, be a 265 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: part of Barbe in her life. I mean that's also 266 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: a heartbreak and a breakup and its own self. And 267 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, Barb, she's a really special person and she's 268 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: just looking out for a son. She just wants someone 269 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: to love her son and you know, to root for 270 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: his own happiness and to you know, be in a 271 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: relationship with him for the right reasons. I love to 272 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: hear you say that, because she's getting such a bad 273 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: rap because of like I understood where her heart was 274 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 1: and what she was saying. Maybe she went just a 275 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: little too far, but I know she was coming from 276 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: a good place. And are so crazed over Madison that 277 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: nobody is listening to what she's actually saying. So it's 278 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: very nice to hear you give a different side, in 279 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: the softer side of her. Becca and I both talked 280 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: to Barbe as well. We adore her, Yes, And it's 281 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: just a shame kind of what I knew tonight. She 282 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: was being very defensive because of the hate that she's 283 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: receiving online, and she's just trying to tell her side 284 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: of it and it's just not being received at all. Yeah, 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean quite honestly. I mean this has come from 286 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: an ex fiance of Peters, but I mean, you know, 287 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: Peter deserves the world and deserves someone that will love 288 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: him with their whole heart and be there for the 289 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: right reasons. And that's where me and Barbe, you know, connect. Okay, 290 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you, do you think that that's Madison. 291 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't know her heart. I don't know, I don't 292 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: know if I guess I never really knew if she 293 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: loved him or not. I mean, she walked away from him, 294 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: But for me, I love Peter and I was never 295 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: going to leave his side, even through the worst. And 296 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: I think that's what barb'sall in me, and that's what 297 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: she you know, That's what any mother wants for their son, 298 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: is someone to be with them, that's gonna unconditionally love him. 299 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: I want to know now since because tonight was the 300 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: first time you saw Peter and his family since yeah, 301 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: the end of January, so I can barely look over 302 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: at his family. I knew if I looked at rest family, 303 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: I was just gonna start crying. But how was in 304 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: that moment sitting next to him, Yeah, did you still 305 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: have those feelings of some sort of lingering love or 306 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: are you now to the point I guess I want 307 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: to know where you're at, Like, are you at the 308 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: point where you're like, I wish you the best? I mean, 309 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: as much as it sucked, thank you for doing what 310 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: you were doing. Yes, yeah, I'll always have, you know, 311 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: a special place for him. But I mean, he's betrayed me, 312 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: misled me, and that alone has and watching back the season, 313 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: that really resolved a lot of like extra feelings I 314 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: had for him. I mean, just I'm watching a play 315 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: by play of me getting deceived and that alone, it was, 316 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, a slap in the face, and it's helped 317 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: me move forward, but you know, to be honest, when 318 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: I looked over at his family, yeah, I did, you know, 319 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: when I start to cry and just you know, I 320 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, me and Peter just had this 321 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: awesome situation and it was like stripped away from me 322 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: so quickly. You know, it was a future that I lost, 323 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: but more importantly, it was the loss of a person 324 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: I thought he was. And I think that's what I'm 325 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: grieving over, is the person I thought he was, you know, 326 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: telling me to trust him, and the words he you know, 327 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: gave me that I trusted him were completely um. I 328 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: don't know if you want to call it lies or 329 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: if you just want to call it shallow that we 330 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: all thought. Yeah, I mean it's been it's been very difficult. 331 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: I can only imagine. And I think that that's what's 332 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: so therapeutic Forbecca to be here in this podcast and 333 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: to talk to you, because she knows exactly what it 334 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: is that you're going through. You know, I'm a viewer. 335 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: I only watch it and I can only empathize with you. 336 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: It's just it's troubling because we talked to Peter before 337 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: the season or while he was still filming, and then 338 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: right when the season started, and I remember we were 339 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: saying that more than anything for him, we wanted him 340 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: to find love because we know how badly he wanted it, 341 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: and we know that he wanted someone to love him unconditionally. 342 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: That's what he said, That's what he told us, and 343 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: he had it, and then he let it go like 344 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: and then he still doesn't have it. I mean, let's 345 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: just be honest. I saw what I saw. What I 346 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: saw tonight, he still doesn't have He said it, you 347 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: loved him in a way that he has never been 348 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: loved before. Well, I would assume that that means the present. 349 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: Did he not say that tonight before? I literally you, 350 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: I don't know what he is with mathis because we 351 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: still didn't get, you know, like a definitive answer. Basically, 352 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: he was still saying, you loved him in a way 353 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: that she didn't, and that's what you want it and 354 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: you had it, and then you still chase something, which 355 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: don't get me started on how I think that's the 356 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: issue with man and that's why the bachelors are not 357 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: successful because they're always chasing something that they can never get, 358 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: and that's why we only have only had two that 359 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: are married at this point and didn't pick the first one. Well, 360 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't play yeah, yes, of course, John's 361 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: the like rare, beautiful fight. I don't play the whole 362 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: chasing game. I mean, I understand you can't, you know, 363 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: give to a man everything they want. But also at 364 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: the same time, I don't play games either like you 365 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: or I don't you know what I say to you, 366 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very clear, I'm concise, and I expect 367 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: that a return. Yeah, that's my standards. Yeats, just be 368 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: honest with me. I'm gonna be honest with you back 369 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: you guys girls on this show all they want is 370 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: honestly why they don't drag me along. And that's what's 371 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: so troubling about what happened this season is, Peter, you 372 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: came from a season where the lead all she wanted 373 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: was to be loved and loved unconditionally and me, it's not. 374 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: And you came. Peter came from a season where there 375 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: was a lead who was saying, I just want to 376 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: be loved and I want someone to give that to 377 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: me unconditionally, and Peter gave that to her. And then 378 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: she chose Jit, which I can just put a period there. 379 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: We all know what came with that, and I would 380 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: think that going through that hurt that you come into 381 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: your season saying I want to make sure that I 382 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: don't make that same mistake, and here you are. It 383 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: sucks to be in a place of wondering and here 384 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: he is in a place where now it's like unknown, 385 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: you don't know, you're one wondering and with you he 386 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: didn't have that. And what also message makes me so 387 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: upset is when we talk to him, he said, remember this, Becca, 388 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: you know who did you first? Two things? Who did 389 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: you pick? Because he was still with you at this point, 390 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: and I think we're like, who did you pick? Like 391 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: trying to I can't tell you. Then he said we 392 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: might have said did you always know? We talked about 393 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: like our own situation, and he said he has known 394 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: since week four who his person was? Well, he was 395 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, like the season. I don't even think 396 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: an episode when we filmed it, an episode had not 397 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: aired yet, so he was talking about you. So you 398 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: have known from week four. There are nine ten weeks 399 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: of filming, So for what how do the math? Six 400 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: weeks you knew exactly who it was that you were 401 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: going to pick, Yet you still went back in time 402 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: and you watched it and you put yourself like It's 403 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: like Becca and I can talk about this. It's the 404 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: classic thing of a league. You you watch it, but 405 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: you never go back and put your yourself in it 406 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: because months have passed, Yeah, since you felt those same emotions. 407 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah, And it's and it's a weird thing 408 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: when you watch it back when you're going on certain 409 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: dates with certain people. Sometimes it's easy to like feel 410 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: the feelings you felt in that moment, like yes, but 411 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: be smarter, like realize that was months ago. You came 412 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: to this decision and these choices for a certain reason. 413 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: And for him, I hoped that in the moment he 414 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: saw like how different him and Maddie were, Like, yeah, 415 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: you were everything he was saying he wanted. And so 416 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: that's where I think it's harder for the men to 417 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: separate themselves and to realize, oh, that was so long ago, 418 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: and I can't like I. And this is one thing 419 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: that already kept saying too that I'm not sure if 420 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: Peter said, but he wanted to um what was the 421 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: phrase he used. He wanted to like feel out all 422 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: of the relationships till the very end to go through 423 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: everything to get to that point where he knew who 424 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: who it was or what his decision would be. And 425 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: it's like they watched this back and they have this 426 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: skewed timeline in their minds and they think that it's 427 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: really happening when in reality, like, no, this happened three 428 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: months ago. And my question is, and this is what 429 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: I want to ask you. This is not related to 430 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about right now, but if you were Maddie, 431 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: granted you guys are very different people, if you were 432 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: in her position, would you take him back after everything 433 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: went down and all play out of how it did, 434 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: would you take him back? And you know, if you 435 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: look back on this season, you see Peter's pattern of 436 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: behavior being consistently indecisive and confused, and I'd be running 437 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: for the hills. Yeah, exactly, I mean I would. I mean, 438 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: even girl, even if he's saying he's loving you and 439 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: all this stuff, I mean, look at his pattern of behavior. Yeah. 440 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: The one consistency he has ever had is being confused, conflicted, 441 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: and torn. His consistency is inconsistency. Yes, And if you 442 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: want to ride that emotional roller coaster with him, go 443 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: for it. I just got off of it, and it's 444 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: a wild ride pever if things for whatever. Again, we 445 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: don't know what the deal is with him in Madison 446 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: at this point. If things don't work out, do you 447 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: think he would come back to you? Because we saw it. 448 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: He still isn't clearly over Hannah Brown. He was never 449 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: over Madison, honestly, you guys, I don't put anything past 450 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Peter whatever. I don't. He's just like so all over 451 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: the blace. He's so low. You ended it perfectly when 452 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: you were like Peter, Hannah's like enough, Like it's a 453 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: confused face any longer you had enough, and that's what 454 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: it was, such a powerful moment, like no, your words 455 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: don't mean anything, they have no weight. At this point, 456 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see where you 457 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: go from here, because again, you want tonight, thank you, truly. 458 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: The indecisiveness is not something that anybody wants to see 459 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: their friend, daughter, sister, whatever go through. And I think 460 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: that watching this back, you're like, that's not the type 461 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: of man that I thought Peter wasn't. That's not what 462 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: I want to sign up for. And it's very troubling 463 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: for us because I like Peter, I think, yeah, I 464 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: considered him a little brother, But when I look at 465 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: what's happening now in his situation with Madison, It's something 466 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: we've said from the beginning. The men like the idea 467 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: of somebody, but not the reality, and they don't think 468 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: about who works in real life, and they just get 469 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: caught up in this fantasy. And once the bubble is burst, 470 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: then it doesn't work. And I just don't know how 471 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: this situation can work. The problem is is that when 472 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: we talk to Bastelnation, we're talking to a room full 473 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: of hopeless romantics and they just see a love story 474 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: and that's what they wish for, and they don't think 475 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: logistically like how this can work and the reality of 476 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: the situation. And I think that when we end this 477 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: podcast and you move on and you go home, actually 478 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: I think it's so you moved to la We'll talk 479 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: about that in a second. But you know, when you 480 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: leave here, you're going to see how people are going 481 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: to rally behind you, and how you were strong and 482 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: you were an example, and mothers are going to say, 483 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: that's what I want my daughter to be, and I 484 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: want her to respond to men like that and know 485 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: her self worth and not compromise who she is, which 486 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: is the title they're giving me Madison, which can I 487 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: just say is such a contradiction. We are crowning Madison 488 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: because she knows who she is and she doesn't want 489 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: to compromise her values for somebody. But I'm sorry for 490 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: her to go back to Peter is not exactly what 491 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: she just did. Oh, don't get me started. Anyways. Anyways, 492 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm going somewhere with this, people. I was saying, people 493 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: are going to rally behind you for what you did, 494 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: and they should. Then you're going to have the people 495 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: who are fanatics and they're going to rally behind Madison 496 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: and Peter as hopeless romantics. But then you're going to 497 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: see a lot of hate also. And the villain, unfortunately 498 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: and in my opinion, unnecessarily, has become Barb because of 499 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: what happened the first night of the finale, the first 500 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: part and then into the second part. Do you agree 501 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: with the online hate that Barbe is getting and this 502 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: she's going to continue to get. I think that's completely 503 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, the online hate Barb's getting is completely unnecessary. 504 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, take that hate somewhere else. She's looking after 505 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: for her son, and no one needs to judge her 506 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: for that ever, and everyone loves their babies. Everyone, I 507 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: think in that position would need to back off of her. Yeah, 508 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: they would want the very best for their son or daughter. Um, 509 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: Hannah Anne. As as Rachel said, you sorry, I interrupt 510 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: this program to let you know. Remember I said people 511 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: are gonna round it behind you. Okay. I guess I 512 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: was a little too general. Not people. Someone has said, 513 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 1: quote I love Hannah Anne with four exclamation points? Who 514 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: give it to us? Rage? Who's the one person you 515 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: would want to hear from. Who's iconic in this in 516 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: this day and age? I don't know, tell me, tell 517 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: me starts the k Okay, I'm gonna say a Kardashian 518 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: it is? Oh what? Um? Is it? Chris? Is it 519 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: the mall bear? No? Kylie Kim Kim Kim Kardashi West 520 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: said twenty one minute ago, quote I love Hannah an 521 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: exclamation I mean podcast? Okay, he wasn't already winning, damn, 522 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian West. Can Hannah Ann get some scams some what? 523 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: What else are we serving here? I can get them to? 524 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: That's that's huge. Wow, Wow, that's huge. That's another. Don't 525 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: even think the Queen herself. Kim Kardashian, Oh my gosh, 526 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: Christian is a huge fan of the show. Oh really yeah, yeah, 527 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: like Kylie, all of them. So listen. If another boss, 528 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we curse on this podcast. If one boss 529 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: ass bitch is going to tell you that you're a boss, 530 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: you better wear the crown. Oh my god again, whitter 531 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: you wan tonight? My goodness, I promise you this. You 532 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: are going to wake up tomorrow and first of all, 533 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: your phone is going to be blowing up, so maybe 534 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 1: turn it off. Takes some time for yourself, but you 535 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: are gonna look at headlines and your name is going 536 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: to be splattered across so many of them in the 537 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: best way. But as Rachel said, people are going to 538 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: rally behind you. People are gonna want you to find 539 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: so much love you. We're gonna be infiltrated with so 540 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: much support. When I say that, you think like what 541 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: went down was the hardest moment in your life, it's 542 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna get so much better. And there's gonna be so 543 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: many moments where you're gonna be blindsided in the best 544 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: possible way, and your breath is gonna be taken away 545 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: because you're gonna be like, oh my gosh, this person 546 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: gave me this, these kind words, and they want me 547 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: to find love. They want me to find a partner. 548 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: Like it's it's gonna be in the weirdest way as possible. 549 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: You can't even imagine, Like so many crazy, cool things 550 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: have come, I mean from my breakup, which was the 551 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: weirdest moment in my life. But like, your heart is 552 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: gonna be filled in ways that Peter could never have 553 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: filled it. I'll tell you that. Yeah I love that, Yeah, 554 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: I really do. But now we have to hear what 555 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: is next in your life? Are you moving to Allay? Yeah? 556 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: I actually moved this week, so like I was like 557 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: just buying me a one a one white ticket and 558 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: so I move in and literally Thursday good. And you know, 559 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: for me, I gotta keep it moving. You know, the 560 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: situation's unfortunate, and you know, I gave myself a good 561 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: couple of days and cried NonStop, and then I'm like, Okay, 562 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, Peter wasted you know, and I love you. 563 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: He wasted an engagement, but he's not wasting anymore my tears. Yeah, 564 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I gotta focus. You're gonna be You're gonna be an 565 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: inspiration to so many girls out there and even for me, 566 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: somebody who has been in a similar position. I looked 567 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: up to you tonight and I really I rallied behind you, 568 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: and I truly do want the best for you, but 569 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: to see how you handled that situation in that darkness. 570 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: But everyone has been through a breakup. Everyone has felt 571 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: that sadness and that darkness, and they felt like where 572 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: do I turn to now? And they're going to look 573 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: up to you and they will reach out to you, 574 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: and so you are going to be a point of 575 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: light for them and that's something really really special. Thank you. 576 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: Listen you too, definitely, I mean you can talk to 577 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: you too. But I'm just saying, like you guys share 578 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: something that other people. But she's glowing like this is 579 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: what you're glowing out too. But I'm just saying like 580 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: this could be you too. And I think also you 581 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: said something about he took away this moment for you 582 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: in this engagement. Don't look at it that way, because honestly, 583 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: if you didn't take away myself worth, he didn't take 584 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: away yourself forth. But also he really didn't take this 585 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: engagement away from you because he never really gave himself 586 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: to you in that moment. Just think of it like that. 587 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: He didn't take that away from you. You still have that, 588 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: so hold on to that. I was so I mean, 589 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: it was so so proud of you in that moment. 590 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: And moving on, you got LA, you got a new place, 591 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, you have this new platform. Yeah, you have 592 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: an agent, hopefully hopefully. Sorry did you do not already 593 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: have an agent like somebody else? Do you not already 594 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: have an agent in this situation or waiting to talk 595 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: about it? I'm so please, don't get any such I 596 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: don't have an agent, right So it's not so not 597 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: everybody comes off the Bachelor with an agent. No, Well, 598 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: come back to that part in a second. I was 599 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: gonna say, And if anyone needs to know who Rachel 600 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: is talking about, there's only two girls on stage tonight 601 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: and it's on Hannah. I don't have anyone right now. 602 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm just I was just trying to focus on getting 603 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: through this past week, you know, I mean, I left 604 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: that breakup feeling like a bunch of broken pieces, and 605 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: I've taken time to like rebuild myself, and you know what, 606 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm still rebuilding. I'm still you know, feeling pain every day. 607 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm strong and just like I told Peter, 608 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm own rock and I'll get through it while he's 609 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: kicking rocks. So we're not So we're not looking for love. 610 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: You're just like all about loving yourself. But I've not dated. 611 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: I've just been surrounding myself with like friends and family 612 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: that are consistent and that are true to their word 613 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: and that are nice and uplifting. But hey, you know 614 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: that's definitely in my feature. Hopefully with the right person, right, 615 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: I better be the right guy because now I had 616 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: like this big sister mentality over you and so taking 617 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 1: ship from many guys, she's stronger, Like you're stronger than 618 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: you think. You've learned so much from this opportunity. Like 619 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: we're so excited to see I can't where you go 620 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: from here. You're in La, the land of opportunity. But 621 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: but he and I do live in southern California now, 622 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: So just know, when I'm done with this bachelor, I 623 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: want stage. Sure, I'm taking you. Invite Kelsey too, We're 624 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: going out, Okay by making you date me? Yeah? No, 625 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: I would love that well. And it's crazy because like 626 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: after our breakup, I thought about you every single day, 627 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: every single day. And this is grist. I tell you, 628 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, you know confidentiality and about you, and I 629 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: knew there would be the right. You really are a 630 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: good bat guy. Okay, I'm gonna give you a numb 631 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: after this week in chat and seriously every day, and 632 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, I wish I would have known her. I 633 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: mean I kind of heard Inklands like in the past 634 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: couple of days, but I really do wish I would 635 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: have known her one percent. I would have DMed you. 636 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: I would have reached out. Oh my shit, it's I'm 637 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: a little emotional. That's it's like, really beauty. I'm just 638 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: so glad you guys gonna have this moment. We'll listen, 639 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna let them have this moment. Off Mike, We're 640 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna in this podcast. But I just had to say, 641 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: it's just such a pleasure to get to talk to you. 642 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I have to see, like I said I was at 643 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: the beginning, I was wrong. We started off the podcast 644 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: talking about that. But it has really been a great 645 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: thing to see you find your voice and to see 646 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: you grow and to see where you go from here. 647 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: So again, you won the day you did. Thank you 648 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: guys for having me well, thank you for being here. 649 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: As I mean, I can't ever top Rachel because she's 650 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: just so good with words for Hanny and you, really 651 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: you are a light to so many people. I really 652 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: looked up to you tonight, even though I, you know, 653 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: could be like you're much much older, sister, But thank 654 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: you for being you. Thank you for seeing in your 655 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: ground and showing girls out there what a strong voice 656 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: can be. And I wish you all the best. I 657 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: have no worries that you will be just fine in 658 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: your future, but thank you. I'm glad that we were 659 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: your first podcast, and we stole your podcast, Virginity yep, 660 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: heard eyes. Oh gosh, I don't know, you have to ask. 661 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the future holds, but it's gonna 662 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: be better than what I've had. She's being cool in 663 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. You gonna wait a second, You wait 664 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: a second. I mean, who knows, but it's gonna be 665 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: better than what I've had, and that's what I hold 666 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: on to you. No, that's right, all right, you guys, 667 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning in to Bachelor Happy Hour. 668 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: As you can see, we had such a great time 669 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: just hanging out after the final rows talking to Hannah 670 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: and she's just been so open and honest with us 671 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: and giving us all the tea as well. She did 672 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: not hold back. So thank you so much for being 673 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: here with us, and like we said, we just can't 674 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: wait to see what you have going on for you 675 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: in the future. We're fans, huge fans. Yes, thank you, 676 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: Hannah Hand