1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We're gonna take you right into the weekend 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: and hope you are all having fabulous Fridays so far. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: I know I am because Hunter Biden maybe soon to 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: face federal charges. That news coming down yesterday right as 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: we finished the show, Blake Masters delivers and absolute pummeling 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: of Mark Kelly in their only Arizona Senate debate last night. 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Will it make the Difference? We got a video of 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Draymond Green, who is a star basketball player for the 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, absolutely knocking out Jordan Poole, who is 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: a young star on the Golden State Warriors. And Buck 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: even has some strong opinions on this. The video up 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: from TMZ I was just looking Buck online already has 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: over ten million views. It's a practice video. We'll talk 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: about that at some point, and also we'll continue to 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: update you on the Senate race in general. The gloves 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: are off in Georgia. They have decided in the Walker 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: campaign that if they're going to go into the gutter 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: after Herschel Walker, well Herschel Walker is going to drag 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Reverend Rafael war knocked down with him there, and they 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: are going to engage in a nasty battle over the 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: next thirty two days to maybe decide who is going 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: to be representing the Senate. Biden buck says that we're 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: closest to nuclear war as we've been since nineteen sixty two. 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: All of this I said that on Monday. By the way, Yeah, 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: like this is that this is true? Yeah? Unfortunately, remember 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: when they said that they were going to restore normalcy 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: to the White House and he was the and I'm 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: quoting here safe choice. Well that's quickly turned into restore normalcy. 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: It's just nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine, and we're an 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: even greater thread of nuclear annihilation. But other than that, 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: other than that, everything's good. I had a couple of 34 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: friends last night. I was watching the Thursday night football 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: game between the Broncos and the Colts, and one of 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: my buddies texted me and said, I hope this is 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: not the final football game that I'm ever gonna watch. 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: And neither team scored a touchdown. Bucket was a detrocious 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: display of NFL magic. And and anyway that was widely 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: agreed upon last night. But let's talk about our boy, Hunter. Well, 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about Hunter Biden. I can't believe how rapidly 42 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: this story spread, Buck, I couldn't get enough of it 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: last night. So for those of you out there who 44 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: have not paid a lot of attention or have not 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: heard a great deal about this story, yesterday, about time 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: we were finishing the program, the Washington Post came out 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: with a story saying that federal agents have notified the 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Department of Justice, the guys who were involved in this investigation, 49 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: that they have plenty of evidence to charge Hunter Biden 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: with a minimum felonies related to tax evasion and also 51 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: felonies related to lying on a application to purchase a weapon. 52 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: There are certainly many other felonies, as you and I 53 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: have talked about, and many of our audience out there 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: has known about. But I will say this, Buck, MSNBC 55 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: covered this, NBC News, CBS News, they all treated it 56 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: as a very serious story. MSNBC, I legitimately wondered because 57 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: their audience has been told for two years that this 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: is all Russian disinformation and there's nothing to it, and 59 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: a huge percentage of their audience believes it. How jarring 60 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: it must have been to suddenly have a report about 61 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden committing felonies? What happens now? Buck, Like you've 62 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: seen all this coverage if you could. You know how 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're playing blackjack out at the casino, when 64 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: the dealer is showing an ace, he asks you if 65 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: you want to surrender your best This is like me 66 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: showing an ace. Right, settled down, settled down, this is 67 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: this is getting a little getting a little ahead of 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: yourself on this one. I would say this in terms 69 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: of the betting reality here, and everyone knows that I. 70 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: Our bet in about January of this year was that 71 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: I didn't believe that they would bring federal criminal charges 72 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: against Hunter Biden with the possibility of actual prison time. 73 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: I said, they may give him a pay a fine 74 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: or whatever, but federal criminal charges this year. I still 75 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: think that's a good bet for this year. A few 76 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago, as we were just before this story broke, 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: you offered me a double or nothing on extending it 78 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: into next year. Because my concern was, I don't I 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: was worried they may not bring the charge before the 80 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: end of so I will say I still feel good 81 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: about my bet. But would I double or nothing right 82 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: now for for next year? Um? Based upon this news story, 83 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: I I would back away from that one, meaning I 84 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: think that you know, it's unlikely it's going to happen 85 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: this year. And this goes to the politics at all. Friends, 86 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: It's not just about Clay and I having fun over 87 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: a stake bed the Biden administration. Is it something that 88 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: the Democrats and when I say the Democrats, I mean 89 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: the media, I mean their allies, I mean all of it. 90 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: Will they circle the wagons the way? Look what they 91 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: did for Hillary in twenty sixteen. Hillary flagrantly violated the law, 92 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: but Hillary was their gal. It didn't matter, you know, 93 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: it didn't matter what she did, it didn't matter what 94 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: she said, and all the ways that they abused a 95 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: system to make sure that she was the candidate. Now 96 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: she's still lost, thank you, Donald Trump. The big question 97 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: is are they actually going to use this And we've 98 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: talked about this all along as the means to push 99 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: out Joe Biden, essentially because here's what I think. I 100 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: think Joe Biden is both such an egomaniac and so 101 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: dumb that he doesn't really yeah bad combo. He doesn't 102 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: really care about what's best for anything other than the 103 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: greatness of Joe Biden. He doesn't care about the country. 104 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't care about what it will mean, even for 105 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: his party. That's why I'm so confident he will run again, 106 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: which another another bet that we have that he will run. 107 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Will he make it to the end of that run. 108 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Will he be the guy who actually wins? I can't 109 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: say that. Will he announce that he is running for 110 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: president again? Formally? I believe he will. However, the Hunter issue, 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: I think becomes the leverage that the party has in 112 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: the background. This is the leverage the party has to 113 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: say to Joe, look, you can decide that for health reasons, 114 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: which is entirely plausible. I mean, the health reasons have 115 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: existed from day one of his presidency. He's too old 116 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: and not and cognitively impaired. You step aside and we 117 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: go easy on the Hunter thing. That's one very The 118 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: other variation Clay is the machine, the Democrat machine, which 119 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: is absolutely ruthless, brings the charges against Hunter and then 120 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: goes to Biden and says, you're gonna have to pardon 121 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: your son. We all know that, but you're politically no 122 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: longer viable, So now it's stepped down time. That's the 123 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: more sort of brass knuckles approach. Either of those seem 124 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: possible to me, which is why the lip media is 125 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: all over this story. So a couple of things here, 126 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: building on this one. I have seen a lot of 127 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: people suddenly come around. Remember when I was on an 128 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: island saying that that I believed Hunter Biden was going 129 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: to get charges because it would allow for Merrick Garland 130 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: to bring charges against Trump because then he can say 131 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: this is not politically motivated. Whether you're the son of 132 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: the president or the former president, if you break the law, 133 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: you're not above the law. I still think that's the 134 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: most likely outcome here, and I now am seeing for 135 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: the first I was on an island for like the 136 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: last six months making that argument or whatever it was, 137 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: and now I'm starting to see it, Like I saw 138 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz go on Fox News and say it. I'm 139 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: starting to see other people buy in there because they're 140 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: trying to get into Merrick Garland's head, which is the 141 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: way that I was arguing that he was going to 142 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: justify this. Well, I think the decision, by the way 143 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: to the closer they get to prosecuting Trump the worst 144 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: it is for the worst it is from that, because 145 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: then it's hard to argue that you can charge Trump 146 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: without charging a hunter. And then as for the actual 147 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: charges here, as they've been laid out there, it's really 148 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: two things, tax evasion and this misstatement for buying a 149 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: hand First of all, what when you see the photos 150 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: the naked water slides, the dancing around and his tidy 151 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: whitey's with a boa and grabbing strippers and prostitutes by 152 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: the ponytail. I mean, the fact that this guy bought 153 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: a handgun. I mean, he is a menace to society. 154 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: Just put this. Put that aside for a second. But 155 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to note that. And then 156 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: we mention forgot the crack pipes during all this. You 157 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: really don't want somebody with around in the chamber walking 158 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: around who's a crack smoker. That's a bad that's bad. 159 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: And in fact, what we find is it is actually illegal. 160 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: It is illegal to be a abuser of illegal drugs 161 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: and be and and have and even own a gun. 162 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: And he lied on a federal form. This is difficult 163 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: to prove and is not often prosecuted, even when there 164 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: is a case to be brought. It's like fifty sixty 165 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: percent of cases they don't actually bring. I think the 166 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: defense for a hunter here, he wrote in his memoir, 167 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: just to give you a sense of I mean, when 168 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: you're incriminating yourself in your memoir, are autobiography your own 169 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: world class dumbass like that's but we already know that 170 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: about a hundred the smartest guy that knows you also 171 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: feel like the law doesn't apply to you, even beyond 172 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: the dumbass. He feels like. That's why I said. The 173 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: fact that he would fly all the way across the 174 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: country and get on Air Force one after the Mara 175 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: Lago raid for a vacation with his dad when he 176 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: could have just met him in South carol Lina was 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: just a thumb in the eye to anyone who claims 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: to care about justice in any way. And so that's 179 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: that's one component of this um. But they're gonna have 180 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: to prove that he was a illegal user of the 181 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: drugs when he did the Fortuna. Maybe they can. But 182 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: if I'm his defense attorney, not that I would ever 183 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: want to be, I would probably say, look, he was 184 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: cleaned during that period, and you know it just gets 185 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: a little bit tougher the tax charge though, I mean, 186 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: want anybody who is an accountant or has ever worked 187 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: with an accountant says, Look, the one thing that's always 188 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: gonna get you nailed is not declaring income like that's 189 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: because it's a it's a yea or nay. It's a 190 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: yes or no. Did you make this money? Did you 191 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: declare this money undeclared income? Now he has that, that's obvious. 192 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: The question then becomes one, he paid the back taxes, 193 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: So does that show enough contrition? And given the political 194 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: realities that they I mean, because Clay, I think they're 195 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna make him, hey, a big fine. This 196 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: has been my thing all in back taxes has been 197 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: reported that he owed right, But I'm saying that they 198 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: may bring an additional charge of some kind that will 199 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: result in in, you know, some kind of a penalty 200 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: forfeiture in addition to that, and also some kind of 201 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: a probation. They could, if this was a normal person, 202 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: say you're actually going to spend a couple of years 203 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: in club fed, which is what you're talking about. If 204 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: they do that, I don't think there's any doubt that 205 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: the sitting president has to I'm gonna say it has to, 206 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: would pardon his son, which destroys his presidency. It's all us, right, Yeah, 207 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt we come back here. 208 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this aspect because I'm curious 209 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: what you could think, Buck. I always am trying to 210 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: read the tea leaves of who's leaking and why they 211 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: are leaking. Could there be a division between the FBI 212 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: and the Department of Justice inside the prosecutors inside of 213 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland's universe here? And the reason why I bring 214 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: it up is the FBI agents, presuming that some of 215 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: them are the source, because I'm curious if you would 216 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: buy into the way that the Washington Post wrote this story, 217 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: if they are the sources, they are saying, we've had 218 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: evidence of felonies for months and nobody is acting on this. 219 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: Because of the Mari Lago ray, the FBI has come 220 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: under intense scrutiny and they may well well want the 221 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: political pressure lifted off of their organization. So I'm curious 222 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: if you buy it. That's one possibility. I have a 223 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: very different possibility in mind for why this was leaked, 224 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: But people are gonna have to stay with us for us. 225 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: There we go. That's look at that edge your seats, 226 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: all right. I gotta switch gear us here and talk 227 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: to you about something that is really critically important and 228 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: it is a mission directly from God. Preborn Pregnancy Centers, 229 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: my friends. Preborn has a mission. They're trying to save 230 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: baby from abortion, and they need our help now more 231 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: than ever. They're preparing for this influx of abortions in 232 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: sanctuary states. 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You can 260 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: search out Clay Travis, you can search out buck Sexton 261 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: and make sure that you never miss a moment, especially 262 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: again as the holiday's loom not very far away now, 263 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: believe it or not, to Thanksgiving and to Christmas, maybe 264 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of a nip in the air wherever 265 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: you are across the country as you are starting off 266 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: your day in the morning. Now you can tell that 267 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: fall in winter is officially very very close and Buck. 268 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: Last night I did something I had no plans at 269 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: all to do. I was with my wife and I 270 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: saw Tucker Carlson tweeted out that Kanye West was going 271 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: to be on as a guest, and I said, I 272 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: have to watch this. I don't know how many of 273 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: you out there watched it, but Kanye made big news 274 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: and we talked about it on this program for wearing 275 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: a white Lives Matter shirt and he went on Tucker 276 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: and I mean, honestly, it was a pretty riveting discussion 277 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: about his views of the world. Now, let me play 278 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: this cut for you. Kanye talked a lot about why 279 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: he liked Trump, what his political views were. But here 280 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: is Kanye explaining why he had white Lives Matter on 281 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: his shirt. They're looking for an explanation, and people say, well, 282 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: as an artist, you don't to given explanation, but as 283 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: a leader you do. Yes. I think that's right. So 284 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: the answer to why I wrote white Lives Matter on 285 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: a shirt is because they do. It's the obvious thing. 286 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: Why do you think that's so? And I assume the implications. 287 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Of course, all lives matter because their lives, because God 288 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: created them. Why do you think that that would be 289 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: considered controversial? Because the same people that have stripped us 290 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: of our identity and labeled as a color have told 291 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: us what it means to be black and the vernacular 292 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: that we're supposed to have. All right, So that's interesting 293 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: why he wore the white Lives Matter shirt. He also 294 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that he was a big Trump 295 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: supporter and that he was threatened for saying that by 296 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: others in his industry and beyond. Listen to this. Why 297 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: did you like him? By the way you said? He 298 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: liked him early like you saw him. I mean, I 299 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: keep telling this joke. If people say Trump was the 300 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: first black president, I'm gonna be the first Latino president 301 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: because all the values, the conservative values, just line up. 302 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: Come on, man, Trump. Samie has his own buildings. We 303 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: talk about. He's like I think Ralph Lareen. He made Ivanka. 304 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: There was a good line there where he said he 305 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: made Avonca and Tucker was like, you like Avanca and 306 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: he was like yeah, which was which was? I thought? 307 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: A really funny line, especially if you've paid attention to 308 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: in the past. But what do you think the overlap was? 309 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: As I was watching it. People who watch Tucker Carlson 310 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: and are familiar with Kanye West. So here's here's what 311 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: you can say about about both of them. And I 312 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: think why people are able to draw um such it's 313 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: hard to even put a sort of an outer ring. Oh, 314 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: we got him, everybody right now, we have with us 315 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: the Governor of Florida, Ron de Santists, Governor of Santists. 316 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: We know you are super busy thing. Thank you for 317 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: calling in. Yeah, no, thanks for having me. We just 318 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: towards got a brief and towards some damage over in 319 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: the Daytona area. A lot of people see the images 320 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: from Fort Myers area, and rightfully so they were very devastating. 321 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: But this dumps so much rain across Florida that we've 322 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: seen floods really all across the center part of the state, 323 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: and so it's a big event. But people are really 324 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: rallying and doing a good job. You know, our Fort 325 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: Myers affiliate is back on air today for the first time, 326 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: so we're really thinking about our friends and family and 327 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: community down there, Governor tell us how are the relief 328 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: efforts going, what progress has been made, and what is 329 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: your focus. So initially when the storm hits, its life rescue. 330 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: So we have had done over twenty five hundred rescue 331 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: missions and that's involving state agencies, local agencies as well 332 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: as the Coast Guard. And it's been really really fantastic 333 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: to see how quick and how successful that has been. 334 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: We also had forty two thousand line in stage in 335 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Florida for power restoration, so we're now ninety nine percent 336 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: of the state plus has power restored. Most of them 337 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: had a restored within a couple of days. There are 338 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: a couple hot spots in Lee County that had significant damage, 339 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: so there's been a surge of about twenty five hundred 340 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: additional alignment into Lee County to be able to that. 341 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: Lee County also had break in their water mains and 342 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: so we brought a firm down that has people from 343 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: mt So they've repaired that so you now have water 344 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: flowing everywhere and they're working on the water pressure. So 345 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: all in all in terms of the rescue, then the 346 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: power and the water to be here basically a week 347 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: after the storm and having done that many rescues and 348 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: have the power and water situation where it is that 349 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: is not normal. I mean most of these storms and 350 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: people that have grown up in Florida and I can 351 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: remember you cannot even be in the eye of the 352 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: storm and be out two weeks without power. So I 353 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: think that that was really good planning. Now the issue 354 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: is is, okay, who's been displaced and then what infrastructure 355 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: is an immediate need. So we had an island called 356 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: Pine Island that got severed from the mainland because the 357 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: bridge got ripped up. We did at the state, We 358 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: just took control of it and we did an emergency repair, 359 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: so you now have people going back onto Pine Island. 360 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: It took us basically three days to do that, and 361 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times i'd take people three 362 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: months with the bureaucracy. So we're cutting through that. We're 363 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: now working on the Santa Bell Causeway. For those of 364 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: your listeners that have ever been there, they've been over 365 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 1: that causeway. It was severed in three different places, and 366 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: so we're we think we're going to restore it this month. 367 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: It's a little bit more in depth in terms of 368 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: what needs to be done, but bottom line, is we 369 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: need to restore flow of traffic over to Santa Bell 370 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: which got hit very hard. In the meantime, we are 371 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: by both barge and helicopter dropping in Lineman, National Guard, 372 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: you name it, to help clear debris and to help 373 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: get the power grid back up and running there. So 374 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot that's going on. We do have people, 375 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: of course, display who's homes are either severely damage or 376 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: totally destroyed, and we're working to help get them in 377 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: good spots. Across the board. We're talking to Florida Governor 378 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: RHN de Santis. Governor, I know that sports has always 379 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: been a big part of normalcy and you've been great 380 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: using the state of Florida, whether it's the NFL college football, 381 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: high school. You have an event tonight that I know 382 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: OutKick is going to have some people covering. Got a 383 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: high school game that's taking place in Naples, Southwest Florida, 384 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: obviously very hard hit. What does it mean to be 385 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: able to get kids back, being able to engage in 386 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: extracurricular activities, go to school. What is that event tonight 387 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: going to mean? Well, I think it's going to be 388 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: huge and it's Naples versus Baron. Call your four and 389 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: one versus Flord No. So they're both very good programs. 390 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: And I was actually it struck me. And you know, Clay, 391 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: I've always believed, you know, get sports back, it helps, 392 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: which is the community and everything, and also the athletes 393 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: want to play. But I'm talking to a mom in 394 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: one of the shelters a couple of days after the storm, 395 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: and she's just like, we've got to stand for the kids. 396 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: The kids need to be in school, they need to 397 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: be doing their stuff. Now Lee County some of that's 398 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit more in depth because 399 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: they did have some schools totally wiped out. But for 400 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: Naples and Callier to be back this Friday night, I 401 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: think that's going to be a huge boost for the community. 402 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: And I think what we've seen is the folks that 403 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: have had to deal with this have shown really incredible resiliency. 404 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't hear any o woe was me what they're 405 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: saying to me. The people that lost everything, they just 406 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: can't thank everybody enough for being there to help them out. 407 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: So I think the spirit has been exemplary, and I 408 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: think tonight's game is going to be great because here 409 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: we are massive storm. Call your County of course got 410 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: major historic storm surge. It did do damage. They're ameliorating it. Obviously, 411 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: there was a lot of rescues and people were brought 412 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: to safety. But here we are Friday night lights, and 413 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: I think the community's really rallying. We know you've got 414 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: a ton going on, but you've been raising a lot 415 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: of money for Buck and I are going to come 416 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: down to southwest Florida and help when things get stabilized there. 417 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: For all of our listeners, for people out there listening 418 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: nationwide to us right now, what can they do to 419 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: help all of you recover in Florida. So my wife, 420 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: our first lady, she launched Florida Disasterfund dot org. So 421 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: if you go to Florida Disasterfund dot org you can 422 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: contribute online. She's now raised over thirty nine million dollars 423 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: and I think we're going to continue with a full 424 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: head of steam. And basically what that will do Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, 425 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: they've all waived the processing fee. So if you give 426 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of what you give is going this 427 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: fund with nothing taken out. It's going to allow us 428 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: to partner with private charities and other organizations to really 429 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: help fill needs that the government just can't. I mean, 430 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: FEMA does certain programs, find the State of Florida does 431 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: certain programs, fine, and maybe that'll be all you need. 432 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: But in a situation like this, there's going to be 433 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: additional needs, and so this allows that to get on 434 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: the target where it's most needed. And I just want 435 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: to thank everybody who has contributed. Thank you that we 436 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: raised more than we thought we would. At this point, 437 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: we want to keep the momentum going and ultimately get 438 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: those dollars where they're the most beneficial to the people 439 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: that have the most unique need. Clan I'll make contributions today, Governor, 440 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: and Floridians all across your state they're listening. Grateful for 441 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: the efforts with the first responders and everybody involved here 442 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: that you've been coordinating to get Florida back on its feet. 443 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: Governor Santis, thank you so much for your time. Thank you. 444 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back. In final hour of the week. Our thanks 445 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: to Florida Governor Ron Descantis who called in to give 446 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: us an update on the storm recoveries from a hurricane. 447 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: Ian appreciate him and appreciate certainly all of you who 448 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: are doing everything you can to help those recovery efforts. 449 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: And we're glad that our affiliate in Southwest Florida is 450 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: back up on air. That's our Fort Myers affiliate, w 451 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: f SX. We appreciate all of you that are listening 452 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: there right now. We know that you are dealing with 453 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: a lot of challenges and as I said to the governor, 454 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: Buck and I will come down there and help to 455 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: the best of our ability when it is the appropriate time. 456 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: But when you're joined now by Elbridge Colby. He's the 457 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: co founder and principle of the Marathon Initiative. Formerly US 458 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: Assistant Deputy Secretary of Defense for Strategy and Forced Development. 459 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: His newest book is The Strategy of Denial American Defense 460 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: in an Age of Great Power Conflict. And Bridge, we 461 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. You've been on before, timing on 462 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: this very apropos. Last night, Joe Biden said that we 463 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: are the closest to nuclear armageddon that we have been 464 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty two. Do you agree with that characterization? 465 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: And how much danger is there of strategic nukes being 466 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: used by Russia? Well, great to be with you guys 467 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: always on the show. That got my attention. I mean, 468 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty real obvious. The president is prone 469 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: to making off the cuff statements, but I don't think 470 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: he's wrong about that. I mean, there have been some 471 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: incidents in the later part of the Cold War, the 472 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three war and the Able Archer exercise in 473 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, but I don't think we're really ever 474 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: as close as it appears. We might be towards the 475 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: Russians actually using nucer weapons now end of the world 476 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: got forbid armageddon. I think that's probably an exaggeration. But 477 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: once nukes start getting thrown around, you don't know how 478 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: that's going to end, so I think, and the thing is, 479 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: it could happen very rapidly. So look, a lot of 480 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: people are saying it's a low probability event. I don't 481 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: know how they know that it maybe, but even if 482 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: it's a low probability event, it's very very high impact. 483 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a low probably ability event that 484 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: could destroy the world. It's kind of a significant factory. 485 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: That's not a fat tail situation you want to play 486 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: around with, Upbridge, what do you think? I mean, I 487 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: don't think anybody knows, and Putin might even be pretty 488 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: mercurial on this one himself. What is a a probable 489 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: red line in your mind for where Putin would decide? 490 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: You know what I gotta I gotta escalate to de escalate, 491 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm firing. I'm firing off a tactical nuke. Well, let 492 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: me let me. I don't exactly know what his red 493 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: line is. I'm not sure anybody really does. Maybe he 494 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: doesn't even really know. What I'll say, is this. I mean, 495 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you were doing a scenario for where 496 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: the Russians might use nuclear weapons, this is pretty close 497 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: to what it's like. I mean, the collapse of his military, 498 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: political and humiliation, strategic isolation, the collapse of the position 499 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: in eastern Ukraine, and influence even in other places like 500 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: Armenia and arz Raijan. So politically it's really bad. Hey, 501 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: b look, we know he's a nasty guy. That's not 502 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: the issue, right, But if he's such a nasty guy, 503 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't we be worried that he nasty enough to use 504 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon? And then the third point is he 505 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: spent They spent a lot of money and time on 506 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: recapitalizing their nuclear infrastructure, so this is not like a 507 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: cheap threat it's not like something they've forgotten about for 508 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: thirty years and they're just getting around too. They including 509 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: on taxi nuclear weapons. And by the way he's saying, 510 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: he literally saying he's not a bluff. He could be bluffing, 511 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, he's increasing the cost of 512 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: backing down. So what's his red line? I don't know 513 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: what his red line is, but I would say, look 514 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: in the in the world of nuclear you know, a 515 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: nuclear world where you can't decisively defeat even in that 516 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: the evil guy like putin, it's just it's out of 517 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: off the carbs, and I think something that puts him 518 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: in a situation where it's really that's that's not his 519 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: worst option. I would expect. I would expect there's going 520 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: to be a strong impetus in Moscow to use a 521 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: nuclear weapon, probably locally like on the battlefield, perhaps more 522 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: than one designed to both shock but also maybe to 523 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: affect the battlefield. And I think it would have a 524 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: significant impact. And I think we have to be very 525 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: clear in our heads what we will or more perfectly 526 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: should not do in response to that. What was the 527 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: question that I'll be abated, right, what should be done 528 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: in response if they do that. Look, I'll be honest 529 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: with you. I don't think we should get into a 530 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: nuclear war with the Russians over Ukraine. I'm support supporting 531 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians, although I think the Ukraine the Europeans need 532 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: to take lead. It's both unfair and also it inhibits 533 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: our ability to focus on Asia. But I do think 534 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: we should be supporting them. But we rightly decided that 535 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: Ukraine is not a NATO member state, It's not worth war. 536 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: And the fact is, if you're in our security umbrella, 537 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: if we get in a fight with the Russians or 538 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: the Chinese, we have to assume that it's it's it's 539 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: possibly going to go nuclear. And if we're fighting on 540 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: their doorstep in areas they've repeatedly expressed as a core interest. 541 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean Barack Obama said this repeatedly express as a 542 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: core interest that there's we have to assume that, and 543 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: I why do we think that we're more resolute over 544 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: that than they are? Yet, you know, people like David 545 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: Petreus going out there and saying that we should blow 546 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: up their military in Ukraine. What do you think, I mean, 547 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: even if we respond it conventionally, they can't fight US conventionally, 548 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: especially now that their army is wasted, so they're they're 549 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: going to have to go nuclear if they're going to 550 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: be able to fight US. I just don't think the 551 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: stakes are worth it. Like again, I think Ukraine to 552 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: me is we want to support them, we want independent, strong, 553 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, secure enough Ukraine, but there are limits to 554 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: how far we should go. Okay, so Bridge, how do 555 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: we end this? Okay? Obviously everybody out there is like, 556 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: we'd prefer there not be nuclear weapons involved. Hootin is 557 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: being humiliated right now? Yeah, yeah, most people. And we 558 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: got advances going on with Ukraine, but soon we're going 559 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: to be into the full on winter over there, in 560 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: which case it seems very difficult for the armies to 561 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: move that much, and so you kind of have a 562 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: hunker down situation where everybody defends their lines, and theoretically 563 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: that could go on for a long time. How do 564 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: we end this? What is an into the war look like? 565 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: And what are the probabilities are? When are the probabilities 566 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: that that might occur? From your analysis, it's hard to see. 567 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're the neither the Ukrainians nor 568 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: the Russians appear to want to settle at this point. 569 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think if we got into the 570 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: situation where it's stalemate, it would sadly, it would probably 571 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: be bleeding on both sides along the lines of Korea 572 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: sort of nineteen fifty one to nineteen fifty three, and 573 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: then eventually a settlement. I mean, look, there's going to 574 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: have to be some kind of even an implicit settlement. 575 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: There doesn't need to be a formal trumpets of a 576 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: peace treaty, but there, you know. I mean, there hasn't 577 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: been a peace treaty on the Korean peninsula, but there 578 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been a war since nineteen fifty three. So I 579 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: think some kind of negotiated settlement is going to be 580 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: and that may not leave. I mean, the Russians may 581 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: try again in ten years, you know, and that's why 582 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be important, especially for the Europeans to 583 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: support the Ukrainians. But look, I think again, you know, 584 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: in the nuclear era, you cannot just wipe out a 585 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: country with nuclear weapons, and so I think we're going 586 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: to have to. I mean, what I hope we're thinking 587 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: about is, if you will, a theory of victory, which 588 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: is to say, how does this end in a way 589 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: that the Kremlin doesn't have a better option, and particularly 590 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have a better option, escially by using nuclear weapons, 591 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: which puts US in a terrible position. So I don't 592 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: exactly know. I mean what you're saying might actually kind 593 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: of saw of the problem. If there's sort of a culmination, 594 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: if you will, of the of the Ukrainian counter offensive. Obviously, 595 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: I think we all hope, you know, wish them success, 596 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: but I think, you know, if if, if it goes 597 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: too far, that is going to up the the dilemma 598 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: that we all face in terms of Russian nuclear use. 599 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of Bridge, Colby Bridge, what happens with Crimea and 600 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: all this, That's something that hangs out there, but we 601 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: usually are focused just on the regaining of territory. The 602 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: Russians have seized in the eastern part of Ukraine. Then 603 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: there's the dawn Bass region where they annexed and have 604 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: these had this referendum recently. But Crimea was annexed by 605 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: the Russian Federation years ago? Is that just is that 606 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: going to be accepted at the end of this? I 607 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: think I think Crimea is probably a whole nother level. 608 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it was Ukrainian territory. We haven't recognized it. 609 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: But you know, Medvedev said months ago that that was 610 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: even a greater red line and that would be sort 611 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: of heat connected its heat U use. So I think, 612 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, again, we don't know. That's part of what's 613 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: so dangerous here. And I mean the situation the way 614 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: it reminds me a little bit right now is you know, 615 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: right around Thanksgiving of nineteen fifty, when America UN forces 616 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: were going north to Yalu and we dismissed the warnings 617 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: from the Chinese to intervene, which in retrospect looks very clear. 618 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: But if if Putin us a nuclear weapon at this point, 619 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't think we would have any right to say 620 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: that we were that we were surprised. So I mean, 621 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean again, I think this is 622 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: got to be there's going to have to be some 623 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: negotiation at some point, which is going to be uh, 624 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, the only way out of the only way 625 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: to a sort of a settlement bridge. There was talk 626 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: early on about Vladimir Putin's potential perceived weakness, maybe even 627 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: health related concerns that he could have he just turned seventy. 628 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: I know, it's always hard to assess, but it appears 629 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: that some of his allies inside of the mill military 630 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: are finally speaking out and challenging him publicly on how 631 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: this war so far has gone. Do we get any 632 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: sense internally whether Putin might be under any strife or turmoil, 633 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: and how that aspect of this could resolve itself, whether 634 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: internal divisions in Russia could play a role in a resolution. Yeah, 635 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there was an article at Washington 636 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: Post today saying that there was a very senior and 637 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: kind of close guy in Plutin circle who's now speaking 638 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: up against him. That's got a lot of attention in 639 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: Washington apparently, and there's been more open criticisms even from 640 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: this sort of the kind of hawkish, you know, Russian community. 641 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: There was a guy one of the regional governors they'd installed, 642 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, one of these sort of occupation authority guys, 643 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: said that showing you the defensemans or should have a 644 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: decency to shoot himself for the for the absolute failure 645 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: of the Russian military. So I think, I mean, you 646 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: have to infer that there's pressure and some of and 647 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: Putin's is increas saying sort of desperation, suggest he is aware. 648 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean or feeling pressure. Um, I mean, I think 649 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: we'll sort of I mean, the least us on the outside. 650 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: But I would imagine even our I would wonder about 651 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: our intelligence capabilities given the Russian system, But I don't 652 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: think we would have a huge amount of warning if 653 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: something were to happen, right, If if we hear about 654 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: it's probably heard about it and had the plot or shot. Right. 655 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's very possible that that he's unseated. 656 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: But what I you know, I think it's I don't 657 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: think that solves our problem. I think we could get 658 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can look historically after the Cuban 659 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: missile crisis a couple of years afterwards, Kruschev was kicked out, 660 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: partially because they thought he'd mishandled the Cuban crisis and 661 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: the Berlin crises, you know. But he was replaced by Breznev, 662 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: who initially was kind of more you know it was 663 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: into day tant, but eventually started pushing on the West. So, 664 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and the plausible contenders in the Russians system 665 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: don't necessarily seem different in degree I do. I think 666 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: it would probably help because presumably the Ukraine War somebody's 667 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: going to hang that like an albatross on Putin and 668 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: say I'm a new guy, but I wouldn't expect Russia 669 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: to like dramatically turn like a Yeltsin kind of situation. Bridge. 670 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being with us, man, appreciate it. 671 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: What's your book again? 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Going out for dinner. Oh, 699 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: are joined now by Jesse Kelly, who many of you 700 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: will hear later in this evening. Good to see you, 701 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Indicated radio host Jesse Kelly 702 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: and probably the tallest United States Marine to have ever served. Jesse, 703 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: what's up man? You know, I wish I could say 704 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: it was good to talk to you guys. I even 705 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: convinced myself maybe this would be fair in an even 706 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: handed interview and an accounting of the events that happened 707 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: that night. But as soon as I heard Gold Digger, 708 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: I knew why it was being played, and I knew 709 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: that my honor has been has been besmirched on the 710 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: great play and Buck show. And now now we're enemies. 711 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: Tell us now we're enemy all right? So the storyline 712 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: for people who might have missed it, went out to 713 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: dinner as friends on well you were you went to 714 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: like a play? Right? Where did you go? On? Sat? 715 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: Jesse went to this Broadway? This is why, this is 716 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: why I didn't want to come on. Yeah, okay, my 717 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: wife wanted to go see some sorry musical called Chicago. Yeah. 718 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,959 Speaker 1: I took her to Chicago. Okay. I stuffed my sixth 719 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: eighth frame and its tiny, crappy little seat. And did 720 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 1: you have good seat as I watched? No? Oh yeah 721 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: we oh of course we got good seats. I heeart, 722 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: God love him hooked us up with you. It's the 723 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: person behind Jesse who always has bad seats, by the way, 724 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: because they're staring at the small of his bats. So 725 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: you spent two and a half hours at Chicago, Yes, 726 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: and then when you came out you came out to 727 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: get fret, You went to a musical, and then you 728 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: come out to dinner with us or a post dinner 729 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: h And we go to this hotel's rooftop and uh, 730 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: in order to be seated, you have to order a 731 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: bottle of something. Because it's New York City, it's Buck's hometown, 732 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: they h and I don't know what it is. Buck. 733 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed this. Every time I 734 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: go in anywhere, they think that I can't afford anything. 735 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't dress well enough, but clay in some 736 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: of these establishments, when they see tattered shorts and flip flopsy, 737 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: they make some assumptions. When it's like fifty degrees outside, 738 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: I walked, I walked it up to the guy at 739 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: the at the top the hotel and I said, can 740 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: we get a table please? And he was like, well, 741 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, you have to buy you know, to spend 742 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, like basically it was like 743 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: telling me, hey, poor kid, like you can't afford to 744 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: be here. I was like, yeah, I can afford to 745 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: buy a bottle of wine. So we sit down, poor wine, 746 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: and you order your own drink. Say, oh, I had 747 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: to get the tequila shots because I didn't. You ordered 748 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: your own drink right like, general into his old fashioned though, Like, 749 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: is that a thing? You know? Let let's clarify something here. 750 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't drink wine, Okay. I grew up in Ohio, 751 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: in Montana. I eat velveta, I eat doritos and cheeseburgers. 752 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't sif on red wine. So of course I 753 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: ordered my own drink. The tequila shots who were to 754 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: try to make everybody have fun, have more fun, probably 755 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: because you guys were bringing us down. I mean, let 756 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: me also say this in defense of Bucket myself. I 757 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: can't say who it was, but we're trying to recruit 758 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: someone who was in sports media come work at out Kick, 759 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: and that was the order that she placed. So she 760 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: ordered the red wine. Buck and I, being gentleman, are like, yeah, 761 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: well you're like red wine. But we were surprising was 762 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: that as Jesse ordered his old Fashion I saw a 763 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: pinky ring on his finger. It was amazing, all right. 764 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: So we're all sitting there enjoying our red wine, except 765 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: for Jesse, who has his own old fashion, and then 766 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: he just out of nowhere. Jesse is like, we gotta 767 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: get four shots of the most expensive tequila, which Bob Pittman, 768 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: who owns the entire company, has founded the the Cassa Dragoons. 769 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: And Buck says to you, Jesse, as I recall, that's 770 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: gonna be really expensive. I think, I said, Jesse, you're 771 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: ordering a mortgage payment's worth of tequila. I think that 772 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,919 Speaker 1: was I think that, And Jesse was like, basically like chomp, chump, 773 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: I'll take two rounds, my good man. Okay, okay, now 774 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: now it's my turn to clarify, because you guys are 775 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: missing a very convenient detail of this whole thing. Yes, 776 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: I ordered the tequila shots. Yes. Buck issued a warning 777 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: that it was expensive. Where I come from, shots cost 778 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: two dollars as a special on Friday night. If you 779 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: tell me there's an expensive shot, I think we're talking 780 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars, right, ten fifteen dollars. Buck did not say 781 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: they were going to be seventy five dollars a piece. 782 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: If Buck tells me, hey, Jesse, watch out when you 783 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: open the fridge, I'm going to assume, oh no, there 784 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: might be a bottle in there that might fall out. 785 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: If I opened the fridge and a Siberian tiger jumps 786 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: out and attacks me. That's not on me, that's on 787 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: Bucks for not disclosing the appropriate amount of detail. That's 788 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: a fair point where you surprised Buck that it was 789 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: seventy five dollars a shot, even as a New Yorker. 790 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: Did that seem steep to you? No, I mean that 791 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: that place, it's actually where I went on my first 792 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 1: date with Carrie. Believe it or oh, that rooftop has 793 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: some history, so I am familiar. We try to go 794 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: somewhere next door, and then we went there, and that 795 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: is one of the more Look, everyone knows and every 796 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: everyone who lives in a city anywhere or even a 797 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: pretty good sized town of the country. This is like 798 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: one of the more expensive hotels in the city, and 799 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: expensive hotels, I mean, you know, I remember I was 800 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 1: in a fancy hotel once in France. I ordered yogurt 801 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: and it was the equivalent of forty dollars. Like you know, 802 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: they'll just they'll charge you anything in these places. But 803 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: when you're looking at that, you know that shelf of 804 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: booze where everything almost looks like Indiana. Jones had to 805 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: go and find it somewhere else around the world, and 806 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: he was being chased by a Boulder to get this 807 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: glass carafe or whatever you mess with that shelf of 808 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: booze at a place like the Peninsula Hotel, and you're 809 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: gonna pay through the Even I, which we've already established, 810 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: was not considered rich enough to even be able to 811 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: sit at a table up there. Even I, when I 812 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: looked at the bill and saw that they were seventy 813 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: five dollars each a shot, was actually Jesse, Jesse, can 814 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: I tell you something. Clay wanted to go a full 815 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: pretty woman when they brought the bill and be like, 816 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: big mistake, big mistake. Well, now, another another little detail 817 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: that you have not told the Clay and Buck audience 818 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: is I offered to pay. I was even. I even 819 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: did the thing where I was reaching into my pocket 820 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: to pull out my wallet because I felt bad because 821 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: I had ordered the seventy five dollars shots, and Clay 822 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: took advantage of that and paid anyway, just so he 823 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: could come trash me with you guys on this that 824 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: could be true. I definitely noticed that I had an 825 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: advantage also at that point, like trying to divvy up 826 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 1: the bill and everything else, I thought there was way 827 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: more value in being able to blame you for ordering 828 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: the seventy five dollars shots than allowing you to play. Plus, 829 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to throw Aubrey under the bus here, 830 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: but I'm definitely gonna do it. You had already confessed 831 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: that you were living on the high life there because 832 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: you took her shopping at like Sacksfifth Avenue or something, 833 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: and I figured at that point I didn't need to 834 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: take more money out of your wallet. Well, didn't know 835 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: what Sacks fifth Avenue was. We walked in. We had 836 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: to get something for her parents as a thing. Look, 837 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: we don't have to go into the details. Okay, you 838 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: know what, Maybe we should talk about Buck in his quarter, 839 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: his dime sized craft. Oh how dare you, sir? It's 840 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: a very solid's a very solid married man. Pivot. See 841 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: that you're about to get flattened and you immediately attack 842 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: someone else, Jesse, I had the cocktail party. Crab cakes 843 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: are not supposed to be the size of basketballs. Listen, 844 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: Paul Bunyan, you got to settle down on this one. 845 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: There was a carving station with red meat. You needed 846 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: to go to that first and foremost cocktail party passed 847 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: or dirts, small crab cakes. You just gotta spare a 848 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: few of them at a time and eat them like 849 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: bond bonds. I couldn't spare a few of them at 850 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: the time. The wife was right there, and every time 851 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: I tried to double up, she told me, this is 852 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: a sophisticated place. Yet you can't do things like that anymore. 853 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: So this is not on me. Maybe next time, find 854 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: some adult crabs to make crab cakes. I'm just gonna 855 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 1: tell you this is an important pro tip for everybody. 856 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: If you ever go to a cocktail party and you're hungry, 857 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: it is essential where you position yourself in the room 858 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: because the food's always coming in from one place, and 859 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: the good the good orderves go very quickly, So you've 860 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: got to find the route of ingress for the crab cakes, 861 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: for the bacon wrap shrim for the chicken satte, and 862 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: the peanut sauce, all the above. So Jesse, it is interesting. 863 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know there were crab cakes at all. The 864 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: biggest issue, and no pun intended here, that came out 865 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: of the out of Bucks engagement party was I'm never 866 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: getting picture taken with you again. I've not been. I 867 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: never Nobody ever sees a picture of me and says 868 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: positive things. No matter what, I've never been savaged for 869 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: being short in my entire life like I was after 870 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: that photo went out. Well, it's not just honestly, it's 871 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: not my heights. There's nothing you can do about that. 872 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: It's my height. And then I've been told that my 873 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: face is really symmetrical. Me and Denzel Washington, we have 874 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: symmetrical faces. So it's not just that I'm above you, guys. 875 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: I'm so radiant it kind of blows people away and 876 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: everyone else kind of just fades into the background, so 877 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: it makes you seem small. It's really not your fault. Well, Jesse, 878 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: I really do appreciate you coming up from Houston though 879 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: for the party. Considering when I made the toast and 880 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: the main photo that everybody saw that it's been circulating. 881 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: You're standing in the background and everyone's like, nice toast. 882 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 1: Fronto Baggins, Why were you behind him for the toast? 883 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: Do you know why he was behind me? It was 884 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: like he was gonna hold up his hand like you 885 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: must be Vis tall for a ride, you must be 886 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 1: Vis tall to give a toast. No, once again, once 887 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 1: again I'm made out to be the bad guy. I 888 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: was behind you because we were talking. You and me 889 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: were having a discussion. You turned around, took the microphone 890 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: and started giving a speech. What was I supposed to do? 891 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: Lay down on the floor. That's where I happen to 892 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: be fair. I'm just approach it for everybody. Always tell 893 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: Jesse Durga Photo to take a knee. Okay, I'm just 894 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: telling you otherwise you're not going to be a happy camper. 895 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: All right. Last question for you, Jesse here, you've clearly 896 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: a stablish that you're a gold digger in the Kamala 897 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: Harris of the Premier Radio family. But the speaking of 898 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: gold diggers, do you think that Hunter Biden is actually 899 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna get charged or not with any crime. I believe 900 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: he will be charged with a crime and it will 901 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: be held over Joe Biden's head. So you will see 902 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden after the mid terms. I would guess December, January, 903 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: maybe February, Joe Biden will resign the presidency, claiming some 904 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: form of illness or something like that, and then you'll 905 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: know for a fact they held the Hunter Biden thing 906 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: up as a way to move Joe out, because you 907 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: actually think he'll resign, not just announced that he's not 908 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 1: going to run for reelection. No, no, no, I believe 909 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: I believe he'll resign because they need pie. You can't 910 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: have Joe Biden just say I'm not gonna run for reelection. 911 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna the midterms are gonna have been done. It's 912 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: officially presidential campaign season at the time. To shovel Papa 913 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: Joe out the back door. He can move on to 914 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: Delaware and sniff kids, and then they're gonna go run 915 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: Gavin new Them and maybe Eric Adams and you know 916 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: Kamala is gonna run. There's no way. Dome's not gonna run. 917 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: And they're gonna run reappl Buck Gig and that it's 918 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: gonna be the same group of crazy as they rail 919 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,760 Speaker 1: brand before. Okay, what do you think the odds are 920 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: of a Kamala and uh and and Mayor Pete combo ticket? 921 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: What do you think would happen if it were Kamala 922 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: and mayor Pete one? You could make the argument easily 923 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: that presidential ticket sucks more than any presidential ticket has 924 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: ever sucked ever. But they're not going to do that. Dome, 925 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,479 Speaker 1: everyone hates, Sir Bud Gig can't win the black boat. 926 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: He cannot. That's why he remember he struggled so much 927 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: in the primary. Last he was out drinking forties out 928 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 1: of paper bags with blackness. I saw that picture boost 929 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 1: It's one of the funniest video pictures I've ever seen 930 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,479 Speaker 1: in my life. I think Gavin Newsom is the guy. 931 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: As much as I despise him, He's look, let's be frank, 932 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: he's good. Look He's not as good looking as me, 933 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: but very good looking. He's a fundraising juggernaut. He's a 934 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: darling to the left. I think Gavin Newso you know 935 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: why Jesse has so much respect for Newsome because he's 936 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: like over six two, that's the thing. Jesse's a highist. 937 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: So Jesse, Jesse Kelly show Everybody six to nine PM 938 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: and syndication. 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