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Speaker 1: to get down to Lovey Smith? Because I don't think

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Speaker 1: they had any intention of hiring him as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: They had Brian Flores as a finalist. They liked Josh

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Speaker 1: McCown and I don't know, maybe they liked somebody else

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Speaker 1: that was out there. They had a list of finalists

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Speaker 1: and then Flores drops the lawsuit and they're like, oh geez,

431
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Speaker 1: that a commissioner and somebody else had to get down

432
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Speaker 1: and said, listen, you cannot hire Josh McCown, help us

433
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Speaker 1: an climate, do us a solid here? And I get.

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Speaker 1: I mean they could say and that maybe too. You

435
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Speaker 1: can say for the Houston Texans, he was already their

436
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. They probably already and they probably said, listen,

437
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Speaker 1: if push comes to show, I'll hire Lovey in a heartbeat.

438
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Speaker 1: So we don't even need to him until we finally

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Speaker 1: decide he's our guy. But you know, you don't wait

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Speaker 1: that long. What are you thinking? We watched David Culley

441
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Speaker 1: be a one and done coach in Houston last year.

442
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Speaker 1: What are the odds that Lovey Smith is one and

443
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Speaker 1: done his head coach this year? Where would you put

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Speaker 1: the odds? Fifty fifty. Yeah, that's a good hire. You

445
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Speaker 1: can't tell me he was their guy. I'm not convinced

446
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Speaker 1: of that. I would say the way he got hired,

447
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Speaker 1: I'd say it's a coin flip or less. I think

448
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Speaker 1: he's probably closer to David Culley than he is. You know,

449
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Speaker 1: his stint in Chicago, guy, I was in Chicago for

450
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Speaker 1: nine years and went to a Super Bowl with Rex

451
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Speaker 1: Grossman as his quarterback. That should be if he wasn't

452
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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year that year, I don't know who was.

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Speaker 1: That's the same, Listen, It's just the way it is,

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Speaker 1: Rex Grossman. Yeah. So Lovey Smith is a really really

455
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Speaker 1: good football coach, and he's and he's a really really

456
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Speaker 1: good head coach, no question. So. Um, and so's Brian

457
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Speaker 1: Flores for that matter. Um. Yeah, Brian Flora is unfortunately

458
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Speaker 1: may have yeah, the future of his career, and he

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Speaker 1: knew that. Yeah maybe maybe I yeah, who knows? Um,

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Speaker 1: But I think Lovey Smith is a guy that's like

461
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Speaker 1: and same thing with Jim Caldwell, same thing with Leslie Frasier. Um.

462
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Speaker 1: Certainly Leslie Frasier has a shorter head coaching resume than

463
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Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell or Loveye Smith or Brian Flores even. But still,

464
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Speaker 1: these guys are you know, they've got as much experience

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Speaker 1: as any of the guys that were hired, um, particularly

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Speaker 1: even the Miami guy, um, Matt Eberflus, you get down

467
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Speaker 1: the list, Brian Dable, even although Brian Dable has got

468
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Speaker 1: a long, you know, a resume, a mile long um

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Speaker 1: and has kind of a lot of stuff maybe a

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Speaker 1: lot of coaches don't have. But I don't think you

471
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Speaker 1: can't even say that. So it's a yeah, what amaze

472
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: these guys have to navigate. And I get it too.

473
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Speaker 1: There's only thirty two of these jobs, and there it's

474
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Speaker 1: an enormously complex job position to hold, and there's no

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Speaker 1: rubber stamp for how you do it. Because each individual franchise,

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Speaker 1: I've said this before, every franchise is a little different

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Speaker 1: than every other franchise. I mean, New England is completely

478
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Speaker 1: different than Cincinnati Bengals. The way they run things, you

479
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, They're just completely different animals, the

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Speaker 1: way they do things. Baltimore is way different than LA

481
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Speaker 1: either one of the LA teams. They're all completely different,

482
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Speaker 1: So the head coaches got different waters they got to navigate,

483
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Speaker 1: and finding a guy who fits is really difficult because

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Speaker 1: one guy who could be a really successful head coach

485
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Speaker 1: for one franchise may flop at another. It's that It's

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Speaker 1: really true that it's that big a disparity and how

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Speaker 1: the teams are run. So finding the right guy is

488
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Speaker 1: finding the right fit with the right qualities and in

489
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Speaker 1: your organization the way you want it to run as

490
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Speaker 1: an owner and as a GM and all that. So

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Speaker 1: I get it. They're hard to find and they're all

492
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Speaker 1: looking for a different thing. But man, oh man, it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll It's just it's a complicated issue that you hate

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00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: to see this league struggle with. There has been a

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Speaker 1: correction of sorts to the original Adam Schefter report about

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Speaker 1: the independent investigation being conducted by the Washington Commanders into

497
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Speaker 1: their own workplace. According to Brian McCarthy, the nfl PR

498
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Speaker 1: spokesperson for the league, it is going to be the League,

499
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Speaker 1: not Daniel Snyder and the Washington Commanders, that will conduct

500
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Speaker 1: the independent investigation into the allegations against Snyder. The quote

501
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Speaker 1: from Brian McCarthy is. Last week, the league stated that

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Speaker 1: we will review and consider miss Johnston's Alley egations as

503
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Speaker 1: we would any others regarding workplace conduct at the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 1: The League, not the team, will conduct an independent investigation,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be retaining an investigator to determine the fact shortly. So,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this was the League telling Snyder

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Speaker 1: and company to stand down with your plans to conduct

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Speaker 1: an investigation. We're going to handle it because that is

509
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Speaker 1: a joke, or but even still, this is what happened

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Speaker 1: the last time the league and the team worked in

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Speaker 1: concert with one another and then decided what was going

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Speaker 1: to be made public and what wasn't and determine the

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Speaker 1: punishments that we're going to be handed down. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that still didn't work. I don't know. Yes, I'm getting better,

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Speaker 1: I just gotta tell you, I'm not satisfied with any

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Speaker 1: of that. Yes at all. It's not getting better. It

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Speaker 1: looks like it's getting worse or more the same. So

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Speaker 1: really you have to allow to see. Yeah, final note

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Speaker 1: here before we go to break, in terms of NFL

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Speaker 1: news and notes, the Saints are going to be hiring

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Speaker 1: former Bills and Jaguar's head coach Doug Moron for an

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Speaker 1: offensive assistant position. Hasn't been determined exactly in what capacity

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Speaker 1: he will serve. Maron does have a coaching history. He

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Speaker 1: was the old line coach for the Saints from two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six to two thousand and eight. Most recently

526
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Speaker 1: was the offensive line coach at the University of Alabama

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Speaker 1: under Nick Saban. So Maron back in the league as

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Speaker 1: an assistant and we'll see what eventually his role is

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Speaker 1: with the Saints under new head coach Dennis Allen. We

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Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we got to get into our Twitter conversation with you.

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Speaker 1: What should Brandon Bean's offseason approach be with this team?

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Speaker 1: The choices are there for you at one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, A tweaked the roster with necessary improvements, b

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Speaker 1: go all in on free agency, see trade picks, first

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Speaker 1: star players, or something else out of the gate early

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Speaker 1: necessary tweaks only is the leader. Be sure to vote

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live or let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call at eight oh three five fifty

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Speaker 1: open lines for you there. Steve and I back in

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Speaker 1: a moment here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. I'll get back to one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and talking today about

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Speaker 1: the off season approach for one Brandon Bean. What should

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Speaker 1: it be? Your pole choices are as follows, A tweaked

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Speaker 1: the roster with necessary improvements only, b go all in

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Speaker 1: on free agency, see trade picks for star players or

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Speaker 1: d something else and I think what we're gonna get here, Steve,

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Speaker 1: is a cross section as to how close to the

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Speaker 1: top of the football mountain the Bills fans believe this

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Speaker 1: team is. It's interesting not every nobody's saying go all

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Speaker 1: in on free agency. I think it's because that used

553
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: to be the thing, right, everybody said get that guy,

554
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, right, But because the Bills are really close

555
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Speaker 1: and you think, okay, one more guy's gonna do it,

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Speaker 1: and there is that you know, sixteen percent of the

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Speaker 1: voters say, you know, that's where they're at. They think

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Speaker 1: one more guys gonna make the difference. I think most

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Speaker 1: of them say necessary tweaks. Only they've got sixteen free agents.

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Speaker 1: That's a third of the roster or maybe a little less.

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Speaker 1: Than the third of the roster. When you talk about

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Speaker 1: the practice squad and the I R guys in the man,

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Speaker 1: it's about a quarter of the roster. But they are

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Speaker 1: at the top two. Some of Emmanuel Sanders, you know,

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Speaker 1: guys like Vernon Butler as a McKenzie. You know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna you guys know the list. Um, those guys are key,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys like serand Neil, Jerry Hughes Phillips, like

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Speaker 1: Butcher Addison, Mario Addison and Jerry Hugh's the top two

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Speaker 1: defensive ends on your squad. Um, Now there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a little long in the tooth. Yes they are. And

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Speaker 1: you know this too. Unlike past us, I don't feel

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Speaker 1: hesitant at all that they're gonna be able to lure

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Speaker 1: guys here right now. Certainly they're gonna have to offer

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Speaker 1: the market raid or offer them a deal that they like.

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Speaker 1: But there's gonna be guys that want to get on

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Speaker 1: and this get here and play with Josh, with this defense,

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Speaker 1: with all of the things they got going on. Unlike

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Speaker 1: years past when we all convinced ourselves that you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if those guys really want to play

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo A team that hasn't been to playoff for

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Speaker 1: a while or whatever. Now it's different now that they're

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Speaker 1: contenders going forward, you think there's gonna be And my

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Speaker 1: point is there's gonna be guys from other teams of

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Speaker 1: like the Mario Addison and Jerry Hughes ilk maybe younger

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Speaker 1: that you could entice to come here and play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think it's an easier sale. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any question about that. I think part of the

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Speaker 1: reason too, why the poll is the way it is

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Speaker 1: is that Brandon Bean's track record has earned him a

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Speaker 1: bit of k infidence on the part of the Bills fans.

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Speaker 1: They've seen him build this roster largely through draft choices

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Speaker 1: and supplement it with veteran, you know, tier two players

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Speaker 1: in terms of cost in free agency, mainly on one year,

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Speaker 1: proven type deals, and for the most part that has

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Speaker 1: been effective in keeping this team near the top of

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Speaker 1: the conference for the better part of the last two years. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: it's been one of the fun things to watch him

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Speaker 1: work and to be surprised by who he does sign. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Emmanuel Sanders signing last year is like, hey, cool,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was great. It's a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, and that doesn't scare me either. One year

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Speaker 1: deals are great. I don't have a problem with him

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Speaker 1: because it keeps you cap strong, and it gives you

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Speaker 1: a chance to get a guy who's going to be

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Speaker 1: motivated to hit it again. Yeah, and I that's I

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Speaker 1: think that's always been a really great strategy by Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean and Sean McDermott. They've used it to great advantage.

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Speaker 1: At times. It's it's they have been willing to sign

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Speaker 1: guys to extensions when those guys and it's it's happened

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Speaker 1: too a couple of times where they've signed guys to

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Speaker 1: three year deals after they've gotten a one year prove

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Speaker 1: it deal out of them, and the next year they

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Speaker 1: signed them to that three year prove it deal and

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Speaker 1: they're gone that next year because they don't have the

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Speaker 1: same motivation. The one year deal was crucial to keeping

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Speaker 1: them motivated. Yeah, let's go to the phones at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty open line for you there

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. Leading us

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Speaker 1: off today is Bob and Franklinville. We got first. Bob. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how you guys doing today? Good listen. I was just curious.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the assistant coaches and coordinators making a

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Speaker 1: lateral move to another team. Do you think that has

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Speaker 1: anything to do with behind closed doors? You know, they're

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Speaker 1: told to say, come to come to our goal organization

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Speaker 1: and you know in a year or two xt amount

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Speaker 1: of years, so we could move you up. Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where you're moving up from special teams coordinator

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Speaker 1: other than head coach. You know, in the case of

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Speaker 1: the reported move that Tom Pella Sero said Heath Farwell

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Speaker 1: is undertaking with the Jaguars, um you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: lateral move. I think the only thing that often allows

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00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: that kind of freedom is one of two things. One,

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Speaker 1: the guy's contracts up and he may want to look

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Speaker 1: somewhere else for a fresh start for whatever reason. B

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Speaker 1: or B M you know, and he's and he's being

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Speaker 1: offered a lot more money to come to a guy

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Speaker 1: that might need his help more with what they have

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Speaker 1: to build wherever they might be. Or B you know,

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Speaker 1: you have maybe a difference of opinion on where the

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Speaker 1: unit needs to go that you run going forward and

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Speaker 1: you feel you have a better idea than you know

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Speaker 1: the people in charge of you, and you decide well,

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Speaker 1: maybe I should look elsewhere for an opportunity. You don't,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know. Yeah, it could be any Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in real quick, one more questions. Yeah, how come you

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Speaker 1: never how come do you guys think haven on? How

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Speaker 1: come you never see head coaches or anything like that

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Speaker 1: being traded like players? I mean, why don't you think

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Speaker 1: it didn't have an option? It's happened, but it's been

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Speaker 1: very rare. John Gruden was a coach that was swapped.

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was a coach that had to be acquired

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Speaker 1: with compensation because he was named the Jets head coach

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Speaker 1: back in ninety eight or ninety nine, I believe it

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Speaker 1: was was head coach for a day and then promptly

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Speaker 1: resigned and then signed on with the Patriots and the

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Speaker 1: rest is history there. But the Jets were like, well,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second. You know they got left hold

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Speaker 1: in the bag, and you know they were eventually compensated

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Speaker 1: for losing the guy they named head coach. And as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, John Gruden also was a coach that was

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Speaker 1: essentially traded Raiders and Bucks. Right, That's it's rare because

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Speaker 1: if you think it figures that Al Davis would be

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Speaker 1: the guy to do it. Gruden had had a really

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Speaker 1: good run, and in fact, the next guy, which is

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Speaker 1: Bill Callahan right after Gruden. Those two teams, if you remember,

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Speaker 1: they met in the super Bowl the next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so both teams have got to feel like they did

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Speaker 1: the right thing in that trade. John Gruden took Tony

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Speaker 1: Dunge's roster and got to the super Bowl with Brad

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Speaker 1: Johnson at quarterbacks. I'll tell you something about how good

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Speaker 1: their defense was. Eight oh three h five fifty. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Tom in Buffalo next. What do you got

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Speaker 1: first time? Hey, guys, I gotta ask you today. Answer

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Speaker 1: number C. You said trade picks. But are you trading

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Speaker 1: them to move up and down on the draft or

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Speaker 1: are you trading them for veteran players? Yeah, because the

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Speaker 1: Vetrian players are gonna take a camp at were you draft?

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Speaker 1: And you you say, say we moved back in the

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Speaker 1: first round, we don't get a first round pick, and

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Speaker 1: we'd moved back and we get a couple of news

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Speaker 1: and threes, and then we got all those background draft picks.

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Speaker 1: We can move up there. Right. We were saying trade

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Speaker 1: picks for star players, similar to what the Rams have done.

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Speaker 1: That was the choice we provided well you think of that,

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Speaker 1: I would rather go I would rather trade for the

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Speaker 1: draft picks. Yeah, so picks for picks basically is what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, I get it, Tom, Thanks for the call, um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to see how many would be interested in

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Speaker 1: adopting the rams model, if you will, knowing they traded

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Speaker 1: for Jalen Ramsey, knowing they traded for von Miller, knowing

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Speaker 1: they traded for Matthew Stafford. The picks for picks stuff

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Speaker 1: usually happens right around the draft because then or a

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Speaker 1: raft is going on, because then you find out you

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Speaker 1: see a list of ten players who are probably going

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Speaker 1: to be available where you're at or you got it,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's like and you say, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: get more picks and move back because we can get

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Speaker 1: more value, and we can, we can, you know, we

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Speaker 1: just get more shots at it to get a guy

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Speaker 1: who can really play, as opposed to taking a Shawn

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Speaker 1: a guy's really not worth that big of the draft pick.

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Speaker 1: So you move back and take guys and you get

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Speaker 1: more players, you more cheap players now who may help you,

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Speaker 1: who can develop than one guy who you know probably won't. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not surprised that even Tom who are

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Speaker 1: last calls ah, I don't know about trading picks for players,

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Speaker 1: cap hit and what all of that, and that is

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Speaker 1: a concern. That's something you have to take into account,

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Speaker 1: although the Rams don't seem to care very much about

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Speaker 1: doing that kind of stuff. We have to take a

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Speaker 1: break here when we come back. Do you ever wonder

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Speaker 1: if your dog knows exactly what you're saying to you?

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Speaker 1: Steve has uncovered a fascinating study about whether or not

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Speaker 1: your dog knows what the heck you're talking to them

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Speaker 1: about when you're talking to him. We're both dog owners.

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Speaker 1: Will get into it here next briefly on one Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: Stay too all right? Welcome back to What Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: I can live with that. Sure, I got a thing

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Speaker 1: came across my timeline. I have no I read it

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Speaker 1: on the internet. It's gotta be true. So it says

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Speaker 1: that the average dog can count to five and in

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Speaker 1: their head obviously rout out loud, right, not out loud,

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Speaker 1: not on his fingers. But and they can understand about

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five words. And that includes signs

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Speaker 1: and signals, gestures, that kind of thing. Now, the smartest dogs,

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Speaker 1: it says, can understand it up to two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty words. That puts them intellectually on par with a

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Speaker 1: two and a half year old human being, Which leads

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Speaker 1: me to my question, what's wrong with Verne? What's wrong

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Speaker 1: with my boy? He is? No way. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: say this. My two dogs don't know one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty five words together. I'll guarantee you they no more

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Speaker 1: than five. And I get that, and we say it

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Speaker 1: in jest. Like the dog trains you sometimes to do

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Speaker 1: what it wants you to do. Right. I have seen

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Speaker 1: my dog Verne when he something happens that he's like

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Speaker 1: all about he remembers that. I know that he has

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Speaker 1: instant recall that. Now he also has the thing where

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Speaker 1: he has his toy and he'll run all over the

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Speaker 1: house and hide that sucker everywhere, and it'll be like

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Speaker 1: a week and he'll know where it is. He'll go

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Speaker 1: back and find it. Okay, And well, yeah, but he

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Speaker 1: can probably smell it, I would think. But they're a

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Speaker 1: great sense Yeah. Maybe, well, maybe maybe I'm giving him

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Speaker 1: too much credit. My dog's better. My dogs, both of

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Speaker 1: my dogs are better with visual cues and gestures than

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Speaker 1: they are with words. Like I'm putting my shoes on.

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Speaker 1: And my young dog goes bananas because she wants to

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Speaker 1: go outside and go walk or something. You know, he

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Speaker 1: thinks that's where she's going. She thinks she's coming with me.

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Speaker 1: Now my dog has you know, you say walk you

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Speaker 1: want to go for and that goes crazy. If treat

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Speaker 1: another word, if I say jeep, because he knows he

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Speaker 1: loves loves that, he loves getting in the truck and

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Speaker 1: going with me. You know, so he does learn certain

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Speaker 1: things and certain gestures. Yeah, so he's yeah, so they

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Speaker 1: how do you and I guess you know that I

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Speaker 1: would say my dogs know no more than ten words each,

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Speaker 1: because when I start saying other stuff. Here's another thing too.

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Speaker 1: If the dog is yours and yours alone, you live alone,

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Speaker 1: you have that dog that he only hears your voice.

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Speaker 1: So having somebody else say the word may be different

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Speaker 1: than having you say the word. Yeah. That's a good point,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So if there's like multiple

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Speaker 1: five seems high, though it doesn't one hundred and sixty five.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I could list one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty five words in regards to my dog. There's

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Speaker 1: no way I am not buying that. And these are

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Speaker 1: the smartest one two hundred and fifty Okay, you know maybe,

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Speaker 1: And that's also see some of those words are like

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Speaker 1: gestures as well, and things like yeah. And that's the test,

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Speaker 1: Like if you say the word without the gestures, are

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Speaker 1: they gonna know it? I don't know that they are.

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Speaker 1: All I know is I'm I'm thinking my little guy's

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Speaker 1: a little deficient. I think the vast majority, or perhaps

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Speaker 1: they're a little bit more like a cat world. You

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Speaker 1: can say whatever word they want. I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: don't give a damn. Yeah. Yeah, that's possible too. I

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying that one. Sixty five seems extraordinarily high.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing too. Here's the other thing. How

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Speaker 1: do you know how many words the dog knows? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like how many dogs did you study to come to

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Speaker 1: that as an average? Like that seems extraordinarily high. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of human history behind

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Speaker 1: us with dogs in are in with us. So they've

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Speaker 1: got somebody's got to be how do they know the

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Speaker 1: dog can count to five? Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: What they've got there, They've got to be there's got

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Speaker 1: to be scientific case studies where they experiment where they

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Speaker 1: can figure that out, because you know, you do you

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Speaker 1: put you apply as scientific principles to how the dog

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Speaker 1: can count. I'm sure they can run dogs through that

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Speaker 1: and they can figure that out. You know, a horse

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Speaker 1: can count because they do the hoof thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the ground. That's how they That's not how that works.

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Speaker 1: They doing it with the dogs is cheap horses cheat.

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Speaker 1: It's not the horses cheese. They are the old horse

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Speaker 1: that yeah. Um, nonverbal cues, yeah, make them count? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't know how you'd figure out there's a

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Speaker 1: certainly you could. You could construct an experiment. Didn't find

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Speaker 1: out if a dog could be because now I'm picturing

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Speaker 1: a dog in a reclining chair with little you know,

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Speaker 1: nodules hooked up in their head. Oh, let's see if

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Speaker 1: he can count to five in his brain? All right,

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Speaker 1: we're ready to conduct the test. Dogs start counting, like,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing? My dog? My dog can learn

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Speaker 1: fast when it's motivated by the proper thing. My dog,

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Speaker 1: my younger dog, is only motivated by food. Nothing else,

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Speaker 1: nothing you're telling you you can. That's all it takes. Though,

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Speaker 1: if you can, if you have the patients and the

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Speaker 1: and the logic to to get the dog to do

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Speaker 1: what you want to do, that they'll learn. They'll learn anything, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: motivated by food for sure. All right, we gotta take

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Speaker 1: a break. But that's very interesting. We gotta dig deeper

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Speaker 1: into that because I really want to know how they

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Speaker 1: came to those figures, and especially the counting part. How

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Speaker 1: do they know dogs can count up to five? Right?

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Speaker 1: I have? We got to investigate that a little bit

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Speaker 1: further because I'd be interested to know. We have to

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Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, we will

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Speaker 1: be joined by former RAMS running Back Doc Holiday, gonna

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Speaker 1: get us up to speed on that LA squad and

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Speaker 1: what he thinks about the upcoming Super Bowl matchup that's

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Speaker 1: coming up next year. On One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for State.

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Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strategyre of

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Speaker 1: normalcy here, all right, here we are our number two

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and

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Speaker 1: happy to be joined now by the host in the

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Speaker 1: Believing RAMS podcast with co host Isaac Bruce as well

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Speaker 1: as the host of the Doc Holiday show. It's a

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Speaker 1: former RAMS running Back Doc Holiday Doc. How we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us here. Appreciate you has given us

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Speaker 1: some time. Appreciated Chris and Steve Man, thank you all

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Speaker 1: for have and being made my pleasure. Yeah, so let's

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Speaker 1: begin here because we a lot of people have characterized

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Speaker 1: the RAMS as having an advantage this week, being able

849
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: to sleep in their own beds, kind of conduct everything

850
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: as if they've got another home game lined up with

851
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Obviously, being played at SOFI. Meanwhile, Cincinnati's traveling,

852
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: they're in hotel beds, They've got a practice at a

853
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: facility that maybe they've never seen before. But then there's

854
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: the pressure question, Doc, because mcvay's been here before it

855
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: didn't go well the last time. Would you call pressure

856
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: that would seemingly be on the Rams playing in their

857
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: own stadium an equalizing factor in any way? Well, Chris,

858
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I would call it, man, because the

859
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: Rams aren't playing at home. But you have to look

860
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: at the fact that, like I said, Man, no one

861
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: expected the Bengals, as sorry as they weren't last year

862
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: in the year before, to be here. So they just

863
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: here just going you know, they're just here anything that

864
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: get his money. But the Rams, on the other hand,

865
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: they went all in. They were supposed to be here.

866
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: They just gambled and cast in everything to get to

867
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: this spot. And the only way this has considered us

868
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: successful the Rams is if they win the Super Bowl,

869
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: not just getting there. So that's gonna have them kind

870
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: of uptight. But then the Bengals come in like, hey, look, bro,

871
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: y'all are looking for us before the season. Y'all ain't

872
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: looking for us now. But we're here now, you got

873
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: to see us, so they can just go out there

874
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: and just play ball. And one of the things about

875
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: this too is two different franchises. The Rams, as you said,

876
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: all in they got the huge payroll, they got a

877
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: glitzy new stadium, and the Bengal have always been known

878
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: or thought of their reputation as shoestring budget, not really

879
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: great facilities, doing things at the bottom end of the

880
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: financial spectrum all the way across the board of their

881
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: entire franchise. And here they both are in the championship.

882
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: What does it say about the NFL that both these

883
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: franchises can make it here that there really is no

884
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: blueprint to success. I know people be like, Okay, they

885
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: did it that way, so we're gonna do it that way. Naho.

886
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: It hadn't always worked that way. It all depends on

887
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: the players you have and your organization and your front office.

888
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: As you said, Steve, you're looking at the Bengals, man,

889
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: they have gotten here. They hadn't really spent a lot

890
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: of big money on free age. That's the way they

891
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: got They got casts on rookie deals. Joe Burrow rookie deals.

892
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: In March Chase rookie deal absolutely bawling. But the Rams

893
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: go ahead, give up all these drafts picks, spend all

894
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: of this money. But yet it's still two different ways

895
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: to get to the same spot, like getting to Sofi

896
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Stadium in the Super Bowl. I mean, it's a lot

897
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: of different routes you can take. You can take the

898
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: highway where it costs a lot to pay all the tolls,

899
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: or you can go through the woods the Buffalo build

900
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: not the Buffalo Bills. I almost thought Cincinnati Bengals went

901
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: through the woods to get here and the Rams took

902
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: the highway, but both of them here still in the

903
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: same spot. The pass rush is going to be a

904
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: fascinating matchup, chiefly the Rams against the Bengals. We know

905
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals had trouble protecting Burrow all season long. I mean,

906
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: they gave up fifty one sacks. Meanwhile, the Rams had

907
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: fifty on the year, which was third best in the league.

908
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: Burrow seems to perform even when he gets hit. It

909
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to change his accuracy on throws. I mean,

910
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: we all know he got sacked nine times in the

911
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: Divisional playoff against the Titans, still won the football game.

912
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: But is this where the rubber truly meets the road,

913
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: Like this match up against this group, Like, might it

914
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: be too much for even Burrow to overcome? Yeah, it's tough.

915
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: But you know when you look at the fact like

916
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: you like you just meant it. Mentioned he got sacked

917
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: nine times against the Titans. Man he got up still

918
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: slinging it. I mean they couldn't shake them, They couldn't

919
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: rattle him. He didn't get nervous. He just continued to

920
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: stay the course and continue to throw the ball all

921
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: over the place. Now, the Rams have an outstanding defensive line.

922
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: We know where Aaron Donald and BONB. Miller and Leonard Floyd.

923
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: But this dude, Joe Burrow, Joey cool right there. Nine

924
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: sacks in one game, a playoff game, and you still

925
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: keep your cool and keep slinging it. So I don't

926
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be intimidated about what the Rams doing.

927
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: I think the Rams key to winning this ball game

928
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: really lies on what they do offensively, not with Matthew Stafford,

929
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: but with their running game. But would you look at

930
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: what the Bengals have and all those weapons man Miller

931
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: and Donald, they do cause a lot of habit. But

932
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 1: that Bill's offensive line. They may get overwhamed, but Joey

933
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: Burrow has shown that even if you all do get overwhammed,

934
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to overwham the defense and the defensive back.

935
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: So don't really worry you about it. Worry about it,

936
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: but don't worry about it because I'm still gonna handle

937
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: my business. What do you think this game looks like

938
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. What do you think

939
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: the personality of this game is gonna be. It's gonna

940
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: be an It's gonna be about their mentality. Can the

941
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: Rams deal with the presser of these expects. They've been

942
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: there before, so they have that kind of relaxation. But

943
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: the Bengals, on the other hand, they're young and going

944
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl, doing everything that leads up to

945
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: the game, and then in the game, like Isaac talked about,

946
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: he was nervous up until you know, you get in

947
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: the tunnel with Steve, you know that man. It takes

948
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: along to introduce you, so then that kind of goes away.

949
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: So I think the attitude of this game that the

950
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: Rams can be physical like they were against the forty nine,

951
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: is run the ball. Even if they don't, they don't

952
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: run it effectively, run it at least thirty times, so

953
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: they can get that play acction going. I think that

954
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: can get them over the top. With the Cincinnati Beings,

955
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: no one's been able to stop Jamar Chase pretty much

956
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: all season long. Do you what do you think the

957
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: rams defensive approach is. Do they just lock up Ramsey

958
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: on him or do they put Ramsey on Higgins and

959
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: Brackett Chase all day? What do you think their approach

960
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: is going to be? What they need to bracket him?

961
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: But the thing about the Rams and Raheen Moore is

962
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: what they do with Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey doesn't always

963
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: shadow other teams best receiver. Sometimes he does, a lot

964
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: of times he doesn't. They just leave him on his

965
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: side of the field. But you know, you can try

966
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: to bracket Jamar Chase all you want, but you still

967
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: gotta deal with T Higgins. Not only that, you still

968
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: gotta deal with Tyler Board. Not only that, you still

969
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: gotta deal with Joe Mixon because he's such a great

970
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: pass receiver to go with being a running back. So

971
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: the Rams have some things they gotta figure out. As

972
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: much as I love Jalen Ramsey, ill know, he walks

973
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: with the swagger and says he's the best cornerback in

974
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: the NFL, and a lot of times you can convince

975
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: people about saying something enough, he gets caught on a lot.

976
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: And Jamar Chase is a big physical receiver, someone that's

977
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: really really hard to deal with him. Big receivers like

978
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: that tend to give Jalen Ramdy some problems. So if

979
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: I was with Raheem Mars, I wouldn't even listen to

980
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: what Jalen Ramsey saying, like, let me follow Jamar Chase

981
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: the whole game, no man, because if you put too

982
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: much attention on him. Te Higgins has shown that he'll

983
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: crush him, and Tyler Board has shown he'll crushing Joe

984
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: Burrow says he can paint the picture, and he's shown

985
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: he can paint the picture by throwing his different artist.

986
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: So if I'm Rahem Mars, I go to Jay Len like, look, man,

987
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: just handle what you're supposed to handle when you when

988
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do it, and we'll just try to

989
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: figure this thing out as a unit. You know, both

990
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: these teams with the philosophies they've displayed to get here.

991
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: You said once on the highway and the toll booth,

992
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: going through the toll booths, he just coming through the woods.

993
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: But as the Rams and you look at the Rams,

994
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: what was the guy and we see, you know, guys

995
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: like von Miller showed up late, OBJ showed up late.

996
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: Which of those guys has made it maybe been the

997
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: catalyst of making other guys on the team better? What

998
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: was that missing ingredient? Was there something like that one

999
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: of those two or any of this handful of great

1000
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: players that you've got. Which one of those guys was

1001
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: the catalyst that said, hey, that's going to put him

1002
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: over the top. If there was a guy like that,

1003
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: I think the one who has put them over the top,

1004
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: I will say as Matthew Stafford. But choosing between OBJ

1005
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: and von Miller, I have to say OBJ, because when

1006
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: the Rams signed OBJ, they still had Robert Woods. But

1007
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: Robert Woods gets hurt in practice a couple of days

1008
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: after that. But when you look at what OBJ brings

1009
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: to us, von Miller is good as far as passing,

1010
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, pass rushing, But Aaron Donald was doing that anyway.

1011
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: Lennard Floyd was doing that anyway. But you can have

1012
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham Junior who number one receiver. He's been playing

1013
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: like a number two or number three receiver the last

1014
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: couple of years. Now he comes to LA with a

1015
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: chance to win a Super Bowl, go to a Super Bowl,

1016
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl around some vets, and he's trying

1017
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: to clean up its image as well. So you got

1018
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: OBJ coming up. He has those huge hands, so he

1019
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: can catch almost anything, and he's tough, he's a great

1020
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: route runner, and he has all this athletic ability. So

1021
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: I think what Beckham Junior coming on, he's meant more

1022
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: to what the Rams have done and where they are

1023
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: and what they can do, more than what von Miller

1024
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: because Obj is coming with all kinds of swacking. Yeah.

1025
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: Last one I've got for you, Jack is you know,

1026
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: the Spengles defense has kind of gotten hot at the

1027
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: right time here at the end of the season, and

1028
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: they've lived on the takeaways. I think they've got six

1029
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: in the playoffs already. Stafford. Every once in a while

1030
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: we'll have one of those kinds of throws where it's

1031
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: just like, oh, what was that? How much do the

1032
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: Bengals need one of those or two of those to

1033
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: happen to have a chance in this game? They do

1034
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, turnovers are huge, man, and you know once

1035
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: you get on this stage, in this position, you always

1036
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: want to get extra possessions. So you always want to

1037
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: turn the team over. And as far as the Rams

1038
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: are concerned, they have that high powered offense and they're

1039
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: gonna take some chances. And you're right, I have to

1040
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: give it to mcguy pac Man Jones. He say, if

1041
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: you Matthew Stafford gonna give you a money, He's gonna

1042
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: give me a gift if you just be careful. So

1043
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: the Rams have to think about that, and the Cincinnati

1044
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: Bengals have to also remember and always play to try

1045
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: to be as opportunistic as they have this playoffs. You

1046
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: said they have multiple turnovers through three playoff games, so

1047
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: they've been turning people over. They've been robbing them, they've

1048
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: been ripping it off. So they have to be aware

1049
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: and be in position they don't drop those interceptions when

1050
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford rush is some and gets a little nervous

1051
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: and his anxiety kicks in. Don't drop them, take advantage

1052
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: of them, because them taking advantage of turnovers all the

1053
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: reason why they're here in the Super Bowl. So they

1054
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: have to be cognisant of that, and Matthew Stafford has

1055
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: to be cognizant of that as well. No doubt we've

1056
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: seen in the as these playoffs have gotten to the

1057
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: point where there's two teams in the championship, four teams

1058
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: in the in the championship round of the playoff the conference.

1059
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: You know, if you had if you had some dbs

1060
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: on either side who could catch or couldn't catch in

1061
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: different orders, these two teams are different teams showing up

1062
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: in this in this playoff spot. So these turnovers have

1063
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: been great, and they've been a real deciding factor. And

1064
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: the fact that some guys drop interceptions and some guys

1065
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: catch them has been the differences to who which teams

1066
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: have actually been in this game. I think it's one

1067
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: of the most telling statistics of this entire playoff front

1068
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: Doc Holiday, thank you so much for being with us.

1069
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: Really appreciate you, Hey, thank you all man, appreciate it.

1070
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: Once again, many y'all teams have been here, bro, But

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00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: that's another conversation. Yea, thank you, thank you. You got it.

1072
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: You got it. Yeah, we're still smart and a little bit,

1073
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: but we appreciate it and enjoy the game. All right, man,

1074
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: all right, No problem. All right, that's Doc Holiday joining

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00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: us from the Believing podcast network that he does on

1076
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: the Rams with Isaac Bruce, of all people. So appreciate

1077
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: him giving us some time on that as he kind

1078
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: of keeps his ear close on the Rams all season long.

1079
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: And you know, you could say that I asked him

1080
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: the pressure question because of all that they have invested

1081
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: in this year. I mean, the Rams are not gonna

1082
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: look like the same team next year. I mean, all

1083
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: the chips are pushed into the middle of the table.

1084
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: The Bengals are a little bit different situation here. It's like, hey,

1085
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: we're here now, let's see if we can win this thing,

1086
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: and then next year. We'll figure out next year. But

1087
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: the Bengals could certainly have that mentality that, hey, we're

1088
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: on we're on house money right now. Anyway, let's just

1089
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: go out and play our game and cut it loose

1090
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: and see what happens. Nobody expects us to be here,

1091
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: let alone win it, right, So let's just play. And

1092
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: that's a better mentality to be in than saying, this

1093
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: is our one shot that the Rams have. We got

1094
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: to make it happen here or we're done and we're

1095
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna be you know, we're gonna be chopped

1096
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: liver tomorrow if we don't win this thing. So it's

1097
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: a little different mentality to come into a game with.

1098
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: And I know, you know there was you know the

1099
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: super Bowls we played in, there were different levels of

1100
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: that going through all of them, none of them in

1101
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: our favor obviously. Well you probably felt similar pressure. You know,

1102
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: when you're third one, it's like we gotta get very

1103
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: much this one. I think that's why that game ended

1104
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: up into being the one that we really got crushed

1105
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: in was because of that pressure that we felt turned

1106
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: the football over remember nine times nine. That's something going

1107
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: on mentally for the whole team. And that's and it

1108
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: showed itself in the scoreboard. I don't know that the

1109
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: Rams are feeling pressure like that, No, probably not. But still,

1110
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean it starts. If it starts ten nothing in

1111
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: favor of Cincinnati, it gonna be gripping a little bit.

1112
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, it does affect you. It affects the way

1113
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: the mentality, not only the players but also the coaches.

1114
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean if Cincinnati puts an early ten

1115
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: spot up there, Yeah, if something starts, I think things

1116
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: start tightening up a little bit, and listen, it could

1117
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: go the other way too. If the Rams get out

1118
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: there and starts stretching it out and get out ten

1119
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: ten nothing quick, the Bengals are like, okay, well we

1120
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: were just we're still a successful season, that kind of thing.

1121
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: It was a good run, right, Yeah, So it could

1122
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: work both directions, but we'll see. I do think you're

1123
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: right though. If the Bengals go out and go up seventeen,

1124
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: nothing there, it becomes one of those things where a

1125
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: couple of breaks go their way and they capitalize early

1126
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: and the and the Bengals kind of jump out and

1127
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: say all right, let's go and they shift gears and

1128
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: get an extra touchdown and early in the game where

1129
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: they didn't deserve one. So it goes. It goes thirteen

1130
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: or fourteen, nothing quick or early when the Rams haven't

1131
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: done it really anything wrong. Right. Then it starts to

1132
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: get to a point where the Rams saying, all right,

1133
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: now we gotta we gotta go here or it's gonna

1134
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: get out of hand, and then it goes south. Quicker

1135
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: is there. I've always been curious about this because you

1136
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: experienced both, You experienced going to a super Bowl just

1137
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: a week after the conference title game and you've experienced

1138
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: with a two week layoff, how much does the two

1139
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: week layoff perhaps rob your team of momentum and you know,

1140
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: being on point with the details of the game because

1141
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: you're practicing for the better part of two weeks. You're

1142
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: not in game mode for you know, basically since your

1143
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: bye week you haven't had a two week layoff like that.

1144
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: Mostly it's a good thing to have the two week

1145
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: layoff for the teams because of your health, because of

1146
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: the fact that you can take a breath before you

1147
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: hit in that thing and you feel like you're you

1148
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: always spend everything positive as a player as a coach,

1149
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: so you think, okay, this is great. Got a chance

1150
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: to go fresh, got a chance to get everything under

1151
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: our belt before we get down there. We've got a

1152
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: chance to get a little healthier. Everybody's gonna feel like

1153
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: they've had a vacation. Let's go down there and really

1154
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: hit it, hit the ground running. So I think that's

1155
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of what you think. I think at

1156
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: this point, particularly after a season like this one where

1157
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: it's you know, extra seventeen games, but you know, you

1158
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: feel like, okay, we're gonna hit this and we're gonna

1159
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: hit the ground running. I think it's always a better

1160
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: idea for the two week You always feel better about

1161
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: the two week layoff. Is sharpness a factor though after

1162
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: a two can be, Yeah, But I think that goes

1163
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: into all of the stuff we're talking about. It's all

1164
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: between their ears, the sharpness factor, all that stuff. It's

1165
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: all between your ears, and that's a coaching staff's job

1166
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: to make sure you come in there fresh and ready

1167
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: and rejuvenated and sharp, not flat. Because I just kind

1168
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: of think of the Bengals. The Bengals to me, were

1169
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: a team, especially on defense, that got hot at the

1170
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: right time. They weren't like some juggernaut defense this year.

1171
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: They were good in some areas, but they weren't like

1172
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: top of the heap really good defense. And then they

1173
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: get to the end of the season, their pass rush

1174
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: comes to life, They're getting takeaways on the back end,

1175
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: and it was really instrumental in helping them get to

1176
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: where they are now here in the Super Bowl. And

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01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: I just wonder about recapturing that after a two week

1178
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: we layoff, like, are they still gonna be flying around

1179
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: and making the same kind of plays they were? I

1180
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: think you can count on being the same players and

1181
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: in the same mindset because they are. That's all they

1182
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: think about, right, I mean, you know, it's it's two

1183
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: weeks from the game, and we're all doing this other

1184
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: stuff and we're taking trips and we're taking you know,

1185
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: we're getting down there. We're thinking about thinking think about

1186
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: the draft. We're thinking about the draft, we're thinking about

1187
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: free agency, you know, and the fans are doing that.

1188
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: But the Bengals are thinking about nothing but this next game. Certainly,

1189
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: there's gonna be distractions. Your your third cousin wants tickets,

1190
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, your high school football coach wants to touch,

1191
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: wants to see you in LA and all that kind

1192
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: of stuff, all the distractions that happen. But they're like

1193
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: thinking about what they've done to get here, what was

1194
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: important to get get here, what they gotta do to

1195
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, prepare to be play well. So they're gonna

1196
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: kind of stay on that for the next week or

1197
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: two mentally, so you don't really you know, it's not

1198
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: like they go to the Bahamas for four days and

1199
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: then come back and saying, Okay, what's next. You know,

1200
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: they're riding this and you think about where we would

1201
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: be if if the games had gone differently, and you know,

1202
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: you'd still be laser focused on what's going on trying

1203
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: to bring it in At the same time, though, I

1204
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: have to believe a coach has to find that sweet

1205
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: spot between grinding on being ready for the game too much,

1206
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: almost like over preparing, if that's possible, and wearing your

1207
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: team out Mentally. I think that's why they've mixed it.

1208
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 1: Sean McVay and Zach Taylor have both mixed in off

1209
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: days here and there over the course of these last

1210
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: two weeks, I think, so as not to mentally overtax them. Right. Yeah,

1211
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: you think about back in the Super Bowl days, Super

1212
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: Bowl in New Orleans, Philadelphia Eagles and the Oakland Raiders.

1213
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: Dick Vermil's first go around as a head coach in Philly.

1214
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: He goes down and they are wound tight. They are curfew,

1215
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: they are practices closed, they are on you know, suit

1216
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: and tie on the road there, let's go, We've got

1217
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: a business trip. And on the other side of that

1218
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: coin was the Raiders who showed up said, hey, guys,

1219
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: practices like day after tomorrow, you know, see you then

1220
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of thing, right, So they're they're on Bourbon Street.

1221
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: They are all over the map, and they're just saying, hey,

1222
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: let's go, you know. And as a lester hayes John Matuzach,

1223
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: they crushed them because the Raiders came in and thinking

1224
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: let's let's go. We're here, you know, and the and

1225
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: Philly was kind of burned out, you know, they were

1226
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: kind of burned out, so, you know, and and the

1227
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: Raiders come out fast and easy and hung over and

1228
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: and do it to them. Loose is a goose. Yeah, yeah,

1229
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a there's a you know, an encyclopedia,

1230
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: a volume set of encyclopedia is about that game and

1231
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: the differences in philosophies and what the Raiders did during

1232
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: that we. I mean that I read the story where

1233
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: the author, the journalist, was talking to John Matuzac. He

1234
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: got He shows up on Monday or Tuesday and goes

1235
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: out to Bourbon Street. It's like one am. He bumps

1236
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: into Matuzac, who's out, and they're like ah, and he's

1237
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: talking and he goes cool rate and then you know, Thursday,

1238
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: the same thing. He's out at one am, a different

1239
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: place and there's Matuzac again. He talks to him and say, hey,

1240
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 1: great are you doing And they're talking. So he sees

1241
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: him after the game and they're celebrating the win and

1242
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: Matuszak goes, hey, when did you get in town? He

1243
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: didn't even remember talking to him twice, like two different

1244
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: nights he was out. The guy didn't even remember seeing it.

1245
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 1: So I mean was blitz he was. He was hammered

1246
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: a couple of hurricanes. So you know, you gotta do

1247
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: And I say this too, this is why great head

1248
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: coaches are great head coaches. You know, they got their

1249
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: finger right there on the right there on the neck

1250
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: of their of their team, feeling the car out at

1251
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: arter read. They know what that team's doing and that

1252
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: if they can let them have a night off, give

1253
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: it to them. Yeah, you know, and if they don't,

1254
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: you gotta do whatever that team needs and that week

1255
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: for that game, in that matchup against that team, and

1256
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: the way you got there and what's come you know,

1257
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: what they had to go through and which team, which

1258
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: guys are important, which ones are not. It's an art form,

1259
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: it really is. That's where it's an art form, right, yeah,

1260
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: because it varies from team to team even yes, and

1261
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: week to week for the same team. Yeah, So it's

1262
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's an enormous and you don't want to

1263
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: you feel like it's life and death. You feel that's yeah,

1264
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: because you don't want to be at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game regretting what you did to prepare for exactly right,

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: because you'll never you know, you feel like you never

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Speaker 1: be able to live with yourself right. So that and

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Speaker 1: you don't want to let anybody in that locker room down.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be the guy. You know you

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01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: don't want to be and I don't want to bring

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Speaker 1: it up like this, but you don't want to be

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01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: Scott Norwood right where they use that guy, you know,

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01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: where everybody on the team goes. You know what, if

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 1: that guy wouldn't have said that on Wednesday afternoon in practice,

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: I would have felt, you know, it made a difference

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: for us, that kind of thing. If he would have

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01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: showed up better on Thursday's practice, we got that rep in.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I missed it because that kind

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01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: of thing happens. You never want to be that guy.

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: And as a head coach, every guy on the team

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01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: looks to you every day and it's a hard place

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01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: to be. So it's it's and it really is the

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: art of coaching at that even at the highest levels

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: with all the analytics and the exercise science people of

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: getting them, you know, getting them healthy and getting a massage,

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01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: scheduling these guys to get you know, you know, rested

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01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: up and refurbished, rejuvenated mentally and physically. You still have

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: to know that every guy in the locker rooms different

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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: and any one of them could be the guy that

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01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: makes the game play, or is the Malcolm Butler of

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01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: the game, or he's you know, or the Adam Vinytaria

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01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: the game, or he's the the Leon Lett who has

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 1: a chance to win the score of the winning touchdown

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01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: the ball gets knocked out of his hands from behind,

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 1: right right, So I wish that would have been the

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Speaker 1: winning score of that game. But whatever that would have been.

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Speaker 1: But you get the point. No, No, I totally get it.

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Speaker 1: It's just I don't know if that really exists in

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Speaker 1: any other sport to the degree that it does in football.

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: Because you got so many people you're in charge of,

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01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: the roster is larger, I would argue, there are more

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01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: variables involved. Absolutely, there's a million moving parts. Um that

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01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: that's not the case in baseball. It's not the case

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01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: in basketball. It's not the case in hockey. In base

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: different Yeah, for instance, I'm not to mention the fact

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01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: that in those other sports you have time to recover

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: because you're playing in a series of games in the finals.

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: It's not one game. That's right and and it's it's

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01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: interesting too because in baseball, you know, I, you strike

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: out in the last name, but you're you're starting pitcher

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01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: is invincible, you win anyway. Or in hockey you got

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01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: Dominic Hashik. You know they can't beat anyway. You know,

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01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: the guy puts up seventy two shots, shut out, We're

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01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: gonna win, you know. So um yeah, other sports are

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 1: different because you got a guy. You got your fourth

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Speaker 1: for instance, you got your fourth string running back who

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01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: does nothing but cover kicks, forces a turnover. He's the hero. Yeah,

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01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: ice is the game you got like a guy meet

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01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: we got We're up seventeen to ten against the Houston

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Speaker 1: Oilers in nineteen eighty eight, first home playoff game in

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01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: ever in the stadium here high Mark, and we're up

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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: seventeen ten. They just scored a touchdown. Now we gotta

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01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: pun it back to him and some wa who like me,

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01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: fifth wide receiver on the roster, forces a fumble game over.

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Speaker 1: You don't know who it's gonna be. Yeah, you know

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01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: it could be Thurman Thomas, who carries the entire franchise

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01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: on his back through Super Bowl twenty five and he

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: still lose. You know, um performances like that Bruce Smith

1329
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: coming in on the same Super Bowl twenty five right

1330
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: before halftime and somehow Jeff Hostetler onto the ball with

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01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 1: one hand. That's why the game is so compelling. That's

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: why you can't take your eyes off it. You got everybody,

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: everybody on the roster at some point in some moment

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: could matter. Right, We have to take a break here,

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 1: but when we come back, we'll get some more of

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Speaker 1: your phone calls. Judy and Buffalo Mark on a cell.

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01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: Hang right where you are. We'll get to you and

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Speaker 1: to some thoughts on the tweet sheet. Next. You're on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right here, we are One Bills Live on a Wednesday,

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01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: and it is time for us to go to the phones.

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Speaker 1: As we're asking you what should Brandonde's offseason approach b

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01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: should be? And leading us off here is Judy and Buffalo.

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01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: What do you have for as Judy? Hi? There, you know,

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01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: and one of their first moves in the off season

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01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: should be to acquire a young, experienced pass rusher. To me,

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest weakness and the Bills team.

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: I think that's the reason we're not in the super Bowl.

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01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: Of the five pass rushers i'm thinking of, about the

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: only one that I think has a future is Boogie Basham.

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01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: And that's difficult to say because I always help. I

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01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 1: hope for Epinessa. I thought Russo was going to command.

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01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: The other two I'm thinking of perhaps are too old

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01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 1: to stay with the team. And until we address that position,

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: we're going to find we're going to be wanting when

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01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: the season comes down to the end. And before I sign,

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01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I hope your dogs are

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01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: watching this program and chewing up your sacks. Fair enough, Judy,

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01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: fair enough? Um, yeah, yeah, they might be. Who knows.

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this, You're right, and I guess we should

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01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: be accurate. They've addressed it, they just haven't got haven't

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: gotten the result. They haven't got the results. They don't

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01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: have a Joey Bosa or Nick Bosa or a T. J.

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: Watter or even a JJ Water or uh An Aaron Donald.

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01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: They don't have a superstar pass rusher h And they've

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Speaker 1: thrown some assets at it at Oliver's draft spot, Boogie

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01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: Basham and and uh Um Greg Russo's draft spots. Uh

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01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: some free agent money has been spent for that, Um,

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: Mario Addison, Vernon Butler. You can down the list of

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Speaker 1: guys they've brought in to try and address that. And

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Speaker 1: their pass rush still is um has not been dynamic

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01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: enough or consistent enough for you know, the casual fan

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: or even you know, most fans to say it's good enough.

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: It's amazing too. You go through the and that's to

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01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: why people disconnect with analytics. Analytics say the Bills pass

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01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: rush is actually pretty effective, and we don't see it.

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01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: You know, we don't see a bunch of Sackson games.

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 1: I think because the last memory is being unable to

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01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: get Patrick Mahomes on the ground was somewhat instrumental and

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 1: how that game played out. It's the reason it was

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01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: a back and forth ping pong type game between Alan

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01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: and Mahomes is because they couldn't get Mahomes on the ground,

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01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: They had them in their clutches like a half a

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01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: dozen times at least, maybe more. And so while they

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01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: are getting pressure on the quarterback, they're not getting them

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Speaker 1: on the ground, and maybe more importantly, and they're not

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01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: even forcing them into ill advised decisions with throwing the football.

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01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: So that production has to be better and it has

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: to be manifested in getting them on the ground more

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01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 1: or forcing poorer decisions. And what Judy brings up is

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01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: a critical decision, maybe the most important decision Brandon being

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01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: has to make, and that is this. You have seven

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01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: players on your roster right now, eight if you count

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01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 1: restricted free agent Justin Zimmer on the defensive line whose

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01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: contracts are up. There is going to be turnover there.

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01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: How you choose to divvy up the assets you had

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01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: previously invested in those seven free agents. Do you put

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01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: it into one player and say I need a stud,

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 1: Get me a stud, because we don't have to tell anybody.

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Speaker 1: Defensive end is one of the highest cost positions in

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01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: the league and for good reason. Do you invest it

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01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: into one singular young veteran, as Judy put it, or

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01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: do you spread the assets out and hope you hit

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01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: on one out of you know, maybe three new editions

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: who knows. Well, here's the thing too, and that's a

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: risky proposition. It is all you got to get the

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01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 1: guy who can, who's actually if he's on the field,

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01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a difference every team, every game. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be that guy. Secondly, what if happens if he

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01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: comes in you've signed him first week of training camp,

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01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: he snaps his tip fib well, right like Carlos Dunlap

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: did for the Jets, you never saw laws Yeah, carl

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01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: Lawson gone for the season and it cost them, and

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01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: it cost them big time. I mean, they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs, but they could have been maybe a

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01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 1: six win team instead of a four. And I know this,

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01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: It rings hollow to say that the Bills had the

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01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: number one defense in the league this last year and

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01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: a ton of really really important statistics, and it kind

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01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: of rings hollow given the way the season ended, in

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01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: the fact they're not in the Super Bowl. But I'll

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01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: say this, statistically speaking, the Bills got more out of

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Speaker 1: their defense anybody else did, you know? And now you

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01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: can say this too, and this is true as well.

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: In the counter to that is this when the chips

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: are on the line when the when the game is

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01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: on the line, is your defense capable of making a

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01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: play that wins it? And I think all too often

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01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: the Bills teams who just had they were kind of

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01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,040
Speaker 1: one of those teams that said, you know, as I

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01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 1: hope our team has the ball at the end instead

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01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: of having our defense on the field. That's that's kind

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01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: of the way this team was constructed. It was the

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: offense that was making the play to win the game,

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01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: and the defense was there to help out. Conversely, when

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Speaker 1: he got one of those defenses, one of those teams

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Speaker 1: that leans on his defense with got guys like t J.

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01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: Watt and Aaron Donald and or the Bosa, one of

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01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: the Bossa brothers or you name your guy, those teams

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01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: can expect them to step up and say, oh yeah,

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01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: their guy made the play, their guy got the sack,

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01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: their guy forced the fumble. But statistically speaking, you can't

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01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: discredit or discount what the Bills were able to do

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01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: defensively this year. Soft schedule, okay, whatever, you still got

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01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 1: it out of him. The production of getting those statistics

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: out of him, you know, and you know, you look

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01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: at the games that would have should have could have been.

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 1: It was your offense that didn't get it done. You

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01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: can say that about the cheat, not about the Chiefs

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01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: playoff game, but what about the jack Field game? Six points?

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: What about opening day ten points against the Steelers? Sixteen

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01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, sixteen points against the Steelers. You know the

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01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: slip and fall when you got the ball in your

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01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: hands against Tennessee. Any one of those three games goes

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Speaker 1: your way. You're the one seed and you got the

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01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs at home. Yeah, so's it's a team game, and

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01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 1: you can say what you want. Yeah, and I get it.

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01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: Everybody loved to have a pass rush where you're getting

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01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: four sacks a game. Man, that's rare. It's rare. Let's

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01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: go to Mark on a sale. Next Mark, what do

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01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Yeah.

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01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: Two things. First off, I think utilized to remain Edmonds.

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01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: Better put twenty to thirty pounds of muscle and weight

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01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 1: on that guy and let him be a defensive end

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01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: and rush to the pass or he's built like Jason

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01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: Taylor or one of the boast Of brothers to begin with.

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01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: And the second thing, I wanted to make a comment

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01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: about Steve saying you don't want to be that guy.

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01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: Everyone looks at Scott Norward and says, you know, he

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01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: missed the field goal to the right, and they blame

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Speaker 1: it on him, But it really wasn't his fault. I

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Speaker 1: like with Bruce the Haven, the late special teams coach

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: said that Kenny Davis said it was the patchy helicopters

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Speaker 1: blowing the ball that day, which was funny, But I

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01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: really think it's when you look at the film. Every

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01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: time they showed on NFL Network or ESPN, everyone always says,

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Speaker 1: the ball goes the way the laces are pointing. When

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: Frank Wright spotted that ball for Scott, those laces were

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01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: pointing to the right, not straight down the middle to

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Speaker 1: the goal post, and that ball went to the right

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01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: the way the laces were pointing. That's all I had

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Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, all right, Marston, that yeah, And I

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01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: use that as an example of a guy being in

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: the wrong, you know, having a play that costs a

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01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: team a game. You'll you'll be hard pressed to find

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Speaker 1: anybody on that team that I played on Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: twenty five to blame Scott nor would outright, yeah, certainly,

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01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: if the kid goes through, we win it. But man,

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01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: oh man, every guy on the team had a chance

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01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: in a game that close, Every guy on the team

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01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: had a chance to make a difference. I still remember

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01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: it was just the last one. Yeah, I still remember

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: Darren on the post game locker room saying I had

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01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: a chance to make three tackles on mark Ingram on

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01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: one play, and I missed all three of them. Right,

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01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: He's like, I make one of those, he doesn't get

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Speaker 1: a first down, and they're putting that's right, you know,

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01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,919
Speaker 1: and that's and that's right after the game. His teammates

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01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: are saying that, yeah, and that's and that's true. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I used Scott as a as an example of a

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01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: guy who would be one who would get you know,

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: be put in the position where unfairly saddled with saddled

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Speaker 1: with the loss, or a guy like me in the

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01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 1: locker room who I made a play that's like I

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: lost the game for us. Yeah, you know, like like

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01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: Darryl Talley just alluded to, like Scott has alluded to

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01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: like me, um, you know in at times when I

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01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: made plays like you know, I wish I'd have done

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01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: something different. In the Cleveland playoff game in nineteen eighty nine,

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01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: that guy ran right by me, Eric metcaffrane right by me,

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01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: touchdown a kickoff. They returned to kickoff for a touchdown

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01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: in that game. So you know, we've all we've all

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: been there. And our point about that conversation was that

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01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: it's it's a job of a head coach to put

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01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: all his players in the best spot to play their best. Yeah, emotionally, mentally,

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01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: being sharp, being schematically too, schematically so and it's an

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01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: art form. So that's that's where we were. And thanks

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Speaker 1: for the call, Mark, That was a good point. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Damien in Tonawanda next. What do you have first,

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Speaker 1: Damien Um, what are your thoughts on the two worst

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Speaker 1: team from an Acorn AFC going to the Pro Bowl

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01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: that you get the first jost pick. Oh, you're back, okay,

1523
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: so you're going back to our solutions to a better

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01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl from earlier in the week. Thanks for the call,

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Speaker 1: Damien Um. It's this is a little tricky because you

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01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 1: already got teams playing seventeen regular season games, and while

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01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: it would certainly be a more competitive game than we

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01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 1: see in the Pro Bowl right now, I think getting

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: those two teams to sign up to play an extra

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01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: game just to get the first pick in the draft

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01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: might be a heavy lift. I think you'd get pushed

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01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: back from the players Association. So while in our mind's

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: eye it might seem like a fun idea, it's a

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01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: lot to ask. I think of players to play an

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01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: eighteenth game just to decide who gets the number one

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01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. And I'll say this too because

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01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: I mentioned this when this was initially brought up when

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01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: I was on with that on Monday. What if you're

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01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: the thirty two year old quarterback of the team that

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01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 1: has a chance for the first pick in the draft,

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01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: are you trying to win the game to potentially allow

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01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: your team to draft your replacement. You're like, you're the

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01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: thirty two year old quarterback on the worst team in football,

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01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: and if you win the game for them, they will

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01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: have the first pick in the draft to potentially draft

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01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: your replacement. I don't know if you're trying to win

1547
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 1: that game well, and and if and it's against everything

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01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: that the NFL is right now, it would be the

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01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: team that loses the game that gets the first draft

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01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 1: pick rather than the right wins it. Right, Yeah, it

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01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: would mean that the worst team didn't get the first

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01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: pick of the draft. Yeah, there's there's really no way

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01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: to do it. Here's and this is why. And I

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01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: think it's a small, a small characteristic of football that

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01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: that other teams don't have. Other sports don't have as

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01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: much in that it is. It's not that other team

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01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: other sports aren't risky to play, but football has an

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01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: investment of emotion and emotional impact and emotional investment and

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01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: risk physical risk that other teams other sports don't. And

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01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: like we said, it's a total team sport. You've got

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01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: to have everybody in the game clicking. And that's why

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01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: the league really the game really doesn't lend itself to

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01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: an all star game. It really doesn't. It's complicated. The

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01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: schemes and the plays that teams run are just nothing

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: more than dirt lines drawn in the dirt um. And

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Speaker 1: comparatively speaking to what the guys these teams are going

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01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: to be doing in the Super Bowl, compared to the

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01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, it's like backyard whiffle ball and the seventh

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01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: Game of the World Series. Yeah, that's the difference. A

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Speaker 1: couple of thoughts on the tweet sheet brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, official equipment moving company of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. What should Brandon Bean's offseason approach be. Jeremy says,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe he'll change his philosophy now and do

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01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 1: anything contrarian fifty cent word of the day. I believe

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Speaker 1: he will continue to utilize the draft and one year

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Speaker 1: prove it free agents. His history has proven that his

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01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: system works and continues to make this team better. Marty

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01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: has a similar thought. The team is right there, keep

1579
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: building with the draft, keep getting free agents to plug spots.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to mortgage the future to go all

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01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: in on free agents and sacrifice draft picks. I think

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Speaker 1: Bean will keep his approach, trust the process, and Djack says,

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01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: you have about two years left before Josh Allen's contract

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01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: really starts to restrict stuff. The next two years, you

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01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: got to go for it. In my heart of hearts,

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01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: I think we need to draft corner in the first

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01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: O line, in the second D line, in the third.

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01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: We have to sell the running back position. Let's take

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01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: a break here, but we'll get a couple of more

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01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: thoughts and Steve's thoughts on it as well when we

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01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: come back here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, a couple of more thoughts on the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet here. As far as what Brandon Bean's offseason approach

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01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: should be with the team as close as they are

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01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: to winning it all, Christopher says Bean has done very

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01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: well by drafting young, hidden gem talent and bringing in

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01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: quality vets. We've gone from seventeen years to forty five

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01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 1: minutes to thirteen seconds from playing for a championship with

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Speaker 1: that philosophy. Just keep doing what he's been doing. Dean says,

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Speaker 1: fix your holes, improve the weaknesses. No need to get

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01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: into cap trouble trying to sign overpriced players. Do your research,

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01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: draft well, sign or trade for some good players to

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01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: respectable contracts. Do not give away the future. Trade only

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: to seventh round picks if need be so. So it

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01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: sounds like, for the most part, fans want to keep

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01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: a prudent, fiscally responsible approach, keep drafting well, and they're

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01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 1: convinced we'll eventually get there. It's not the sexy answer.

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01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: You know, everybody says, hey, you gotta do this, one

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01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 1: little thing will put you over the top, and I

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01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's the kind of boring answers to

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Speaker 1: say this. Listen, just do what you do, just do

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Speaker 1: it a little bit better. You're gonna be fine. Just

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01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing, and you're gonna have another

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01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: chance at it. And that's basically what we're talking about it.

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01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 1: And I think that's the right answer. They have done

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01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: everything correct in the last five years. I mean, they

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01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: got out of cap jail, they gave it. They were

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs four out of the five years they've

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01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: been contenders and right there the last two years. They

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01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: do need to get over that hump, no question about it.

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01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: They need to play and they did play well coming

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01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: down the stretch. They did a little differently than they

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Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty. This last year, I thought you

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01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: and I thought they were riding a roller coaster ride,

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Speaker 1: a little inconsistent win loss, win loss, win loss through

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Speaker 1: the middle part of the season. But at the end

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Speaker 1: of the regular season in the playoffs, they were on

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01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: point and they were playing better. I think that's where

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01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 1: you want to be. I just wonder if being tweaks

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01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 1: the approach ever so slightly, because this is the last

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01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: year where you've got Josh in a manageable cap number

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01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: at sixteen point three. After that it goes up to

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Speaker 1: thirty nine, and your approach is going to kind of

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01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: have to be the way it was. It'd be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see if he tweaks it ever so slightly. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I are done for today. We'll see you right

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Speaker 1: back here tomorrow. Join us at one pm.