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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Getty Enough Hee Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we finally made it Election Day. Yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>that super chill time when the whole country it takes

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<v Speaker 3>on the vibe of two am waffle House parking lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, there's a good chance we won't know the

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<v Speaker 3>final results, which is kind of frustrating. It's like sitting

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<v Speaker 3>through a twenty four hour gender reveal party in the

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<v Speaker 3>couple's like, you guys, guys, come back on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just gonna do pat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember it was the day over before the election

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<v Speaker 4>in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe and I were still doing this same show twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four years dead end gig. Anyway, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was looking like it was going to be close,

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<v Speaker 4>and I remember us saying, wouldn't it be crazy if

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't know who even won today? We had to

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<v Speaker 4>wait till tomorrow. I mean that because that hadn't happened

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<v Speaker 4>in our lifetimes. As always, you find out that night

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<v Speaker 4>it's solid, everybody believes it, and you go on with

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<v Speaker 4>your life. And then it ended up being mean ment,

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<v Speaker 4>and now we kind of are in a place where

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<v Speaker 4>you hardly expect to find out who won, uh looking

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<v Speaker 4>at Ian Bremmer just tweeted this out. When Americans elections

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<v Speaker 4>have been called since nineteen eighty four, so going all

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<v Speaker 4>the way back to then within an hour of the

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<v Speaker 4>polls closing every election eighty four, eighty eight, ninety two,

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<v Speaker 4>ninety six, which is why we had the attitude we

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<v Speaker 4>had going into two thousand. Then you had a thirty

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<v Speaker 4>six day in two thousand. In two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 4>it took till the next morning and eight it took

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<v Speaker 4>a couple hours twenty twelve, couple hours twenty sixteen, few hours,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty long time.

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<v Speaker 2>As we all know how it's going to go tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>I do not know.

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<v Speaker 4>Here are two things I'm going to be watching just

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<v Speaker 4>because the pundits that I listen to, And I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to give West Coast times because I don't like the

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<v Speaker 4>belligerent East Coast always giving East Coast times as if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm supposed to do the math when I live in

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<v Speaker 4>California all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So these are West Coast times.

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<v Speaker 4>North Carolina and Georgia close at four and four thirty,

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<v Speaker 4>and they will know results fairly quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>If Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>According to Mark Calprin and a couple other punnets, if

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<v Speaker 4>if Kamala Harris wins one or both of those, she's

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<v Speaker 4>almost certainly going to win. If she wins North Carolina Georgia,

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<v Speaker 4>and that'll be middle of the afternoon for those of

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<v Speaker 4>us on the on the west side of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Country, early enough for everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if she wins one or both of those, she's

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<v Speaker 4>probably going to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Most likely Trump wins them, and then we're still, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>up in the air.

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<v Speaker 4>But that to me, then I'll just turn off the

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<v Speaker 4>TV and I'll do something else, and I'll listen to music,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll wake up in the morning and I'll walk

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<v Speaker 4>out to the UH driveway and get the morning paper

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<v Speaker 4>and see who won, because I'm not going to follow

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<v Speaker 4>all that crap.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's Kamala winning, you know, I won't get no million.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to I'm gonna put on my Captain America

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<v Speaker 5>outfit and put on my lace up, my riot and

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<v Speaker 5>shoes and get ready to smash stuff up because that's

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<v Speaker 5>what the media keeps telling me. I'm going to do,

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<v Speaker 5>right yeah, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a little infotainment for you on what we can

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<v Speaker 4>look for tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what to expect as being wait for the results.

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<v Speaker 6>Forty three states can begin processing absentee and mail in

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<v Speaker 6>ballots before election day. This typically involves verify the voter's

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<v Speaker 6>information and eligibility and then opening the envelopes who it

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<v Speaker 6>can be tabulated by a voting machine. Washington, DC, and

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<v Speaker 6>seven states including Pennsylvania and Wisconsin don't begin these steps

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<v Speaker 6>until today, so just keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that slows things down the states that don't start

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<v Speaker 4>till today.

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<v Speaker 2>More on that now, ask.

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<v Speaker 6>For the count Fourteen states and DC do not allow

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<v Speaker 6>counting until the polls close. Oo Twenty three states allow

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<v Speaker 6>counting to begin before the polls close. However, different states

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<v Speaker 6>have different laws. In North Carolina, for instance, in person

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<v Speaker 6>early votes can't be counted before the polls close, but

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<v Speaker 6>mail absentee ballots received before election day can be tabulated.

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<v Speaker 6>In Georgia, election officials can begin working on early in

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<v Speaker 6>person votes when the polls open, but they can't tabulate

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<v Speaker 6>them until the polls close.

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<v Speaker 7>And then.

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<v Speaker 6>Finally, twelve states allow both processing and counting to begin

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<v Speaker 6>before election day. This is the case in Nevada and Arizona.

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<v Speaker 6>Officials from Aricopa County, Arizona's most populous county, expect to

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<v Speaker 6>report fifty five percent of the total vote and seventy

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<v Speaker 6>to seventy five percent of early ballots by the time

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<v Speaker 6>poles close.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, the entire audience's eyes glazed over eight seconds

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<v Speaker 5>into that and realized, I'm never going to comprehend, much

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<v Speaker 5>less memorise all of your problaration. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 5>this two interesting things.

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<v Speaker 2>Number One, to something like two thirds of the population

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<v Speaker 2>of Arizona is in Maricopa County. It's like everybody practically

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<v Speaker 2>in the county that includes Phoenix. Secondly, this list of

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<v Speaker 2>the states.

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<v Speaker 5>That matter, the states that it all hinges upon Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 4>Excellent point. I would say to any journalists out there,

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<v Speaker 4>any talk about polls closing or anything like that in

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<v Speaker 4>anything other than the seven swing states is worthless information.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty three states do this, in seventeen states do that.

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<v Speaker 5>On the other hand, half of those seventeen and triple

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<v Speaker 5>the number of the other thirty four who this that

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<v Speaker 5>nobody can.

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<v Speaker 2>Come only matters in six to seven states.

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<v Speaker 5>So, for example, Pennsylvania last time around, when it was

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<v Speaker 5>quite close. Biden declared victory after the AP called Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 5>three and a half days later.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's likely.

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<v Speaker 5>Because of Pennsylvania's various vote counting procedures that it'll take

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<v Speaker 5>a while to know. Well, Godor Shapiro says, they've cleaned

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<v Speaker 5>that up a lot, they get I hope that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>They got a lot more employees, they've got a better method. Yeah, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's funny because so many of the swing states

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<v Speaker 5>have various wrinkles in their voting laws that tend to

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<v Speaker 5>make it a longer process to figure out who won.

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<v Speaker 5>Arizona permits election officials to begin processing mail in ballots

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<v Speaker 5>after early voting begins, but crucially requires officials to wait

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<v Speaker 5>until after the polls closed to count them. During the

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two mid terms, some twenty percent of mail in

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<v Speaker 5>votes were dropped off on election day, requiring time consuming

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<v Speaker 5>verification procedures to ensure the ballots were legit Well, one

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<v Speaker 5>of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Problems with comparing anything to twenty twenty is we're in

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<v Speaker 4>the midst of the worst pandemic in a century, and

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<v Speaker 4>things were very weird.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was twenty two for the record, but yes,

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<v Speaker 5>that is absolutely valid, they mentioned, and again some of

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<v Speaker 5>the states have cleaned up their acts. But just for instance,

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<v Speaker 5>it took three and a half days to Can't to

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<v Speaker 5>call Pennsylvania, it took six sixteen days to call Georgia,

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<v Speaker 5>it took ten days to call North Carolina, and it

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<v Speaker 5>took eight days to call Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody cares about Alaska.

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<v Speaker 5>Now Alaskan's care about I care about Alaska, But electorally speaking,

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<v Speaker 5>let's talk about Moose.

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<v Speaker 4>Just more interesting, just for all the punditry I take in.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're gonna get a result tonight, especially if

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<v Speaker 4>you're a West coast since it's you know, it might

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<v Speaker 4>be one or two in the morning if you're on

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<v Speaker 4>the East coast. But I think we're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 4>result tonight, either like a solid result or a we

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<v Speaker 4>know how it's gonna turn out. They can't call it

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<v Speaker 4>because statistically you could catch up, but very unlikely.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll know. I just I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>way it's gonna break. I hope you're right. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that would be much better for the country, no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>about that. And then just wanted to speak to and

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<v Speaker 2>this is.

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<v Speaker 4>One value out of hearing that long list of how

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<v Speaker 4>everybody does it, including states that we know how they're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna vote. There's an argument always from a certain crowd

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<v Speaker 4>of why don't we make this more uniform. Well, the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that it's so not uniform is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>reasons it's so difficult to rig an election in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>Every precinct, every county, every state has such a different

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<v Speaker 4>way of doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be really, really hard to rig a national election.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is good and you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 5>We are listing some of the horrific policies of Kamala

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<v Speaker 5>and the left last hour, including packing the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 5>ending the filibuster, throwing the borders open.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the list goes on and on.

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<v Speaker 5>We left out, We left out the fact that they

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<v Speaker 5>want to nationalize all election procedures and controls, which is

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<v Speaker 5>a horrible idea. And boy, the party that's in favor

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<v Speaker 5>of ballot harvesting and spreading ballots willy nilly across the

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<v Speaker 5>land and voting for six months and all, they also

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<v Speaker 5>want to control the process from DC.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a slim possibility that Kamala Harris win the.

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<v Speaker 2>Electoral College and loses the popular vote.

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<v Speaker 4>Very slim, but it could happen, which would be fun

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<v Speaker 4>because everybody would flip their scripts on whether or not

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<v Speaker 4>they support the electoral college versus the popular vote.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be hilarious to watch.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, I'm sorry, Michael, Michael, give me fifty two again.

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<v Speaker 5>Enjoy today the election day, especially for this reason.

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<v Speaker 8>If we don't show up tomorrow, it is entirely possible. No,

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<v Speaker 8>it's not that we will not have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 8>ever cast a ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, that's dumb. Okay. God is the last American election.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Oprah Winfrey, it Republicans prevails.

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<v Speaker 4>So I respect her more if she's pandering than if

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<v Speaker 4>she actually believes that.

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<v Speaker 2>God.

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<v Speaker 5>I just saw ABC's Yeah, I'd rather deal with a

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<v Speaker 5>liar than a lunatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>ABC's headline was after the shortest election in US history

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<v Speaker 4>or campaigns, which is technically true, But did it feel

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<v Speaker 4>that way to anybody?

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<v Speaker 8>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk was on Joe Rogan yesterday and said, if

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala Harris wins, she will shut down Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>But the important thing out of that conversation was Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Rogan endorsed Donald Trump. That endorsement, if any matter, is

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<v Speaker 4>miles more important than whether or not the Washington Post

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<v Speaker 4>is endorsed Kamala Harris. Oh yeah, yeah, monumentally more important

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of undecided working class people out there who

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<v Speaker 4>listen to Joe Rogan. Absolute freaking lutely, that's more important.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't get near the attention as whether the Washington Post

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<v Speaker 4>endorsed or not, or when j Lo comes out and

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<v Speaker 4>makes an endorsement.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you crazy, Joe? Honesty?

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<v Speaker 5>Taylor Swift's endorsement was more important than the Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh absolutely, absolutely, that got enormous attention.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny the contrast between the attention paid to the

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<v Speaker 2>two endorsements, isn't it? It's odd? This is something going

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<v Speaker 2>on here.

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<v Speaker 4>We got an interesting question for our old friend lanhie

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<v Speaker 4>Chin coming up a little later this hour. Give us

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<v Speaker 4>a handful of reasons why each candidate could win, or

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<v Speaker 4>if they won, why they won, which I think will

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<v Speaker 4>be interesting from a super smart guy, among other things.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way, art, heyety, I I don't feel any

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<v Speaker 1>different from when I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I still think.

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<v Speaker 1>About boys, and I still hate my hair.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that has not changed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the big difference is. Tell us I

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<v Speaker 1>can say no, and younger people are so access to please.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I can do that. Oh sure I want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, that's a good idea. I've learned to say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. That doesn't really work for me. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been able to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an eighty five year old explaining what it's like

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<v Speaker 4>to be eighty five versus when she was younger. She

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<v Speaker 4>still thinks about boys, hates her hair, but now can

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<v Speaker 4>say no to things.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, excellent. Here's the personal growth coming up? Coming up?

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<v Speaker 5>Could California elect Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>What? I know?

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<v Speaker 5>It's an odd question. It's a bit of a trick question.

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<v Speaker 5>And speaking of could this or that, could a monkey,

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<v Speaker 5>given infinite time rite Shakespeare's complete works before the universe

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<v Speaker 5>dives dies? Okay, so that's a long running conundrum. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>the whole infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number

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<v Speaker 5>of typewriters, given an infinite time, would eventually produce the

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<v Speaker 5>complete works of Shakespeare.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever bought that. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>answering the question. Well, yeah, although.

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<v Speaker 5>This one went with it's a variation of that, the

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<v Speaker 5>infinite monkey theorem that given infinite time, could a monkey

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<v Speaker 5>produce the works of Shakespeare?

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<v Speaker 4>I suppose technically, if you've got infinite time, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>say no to anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, right, but that's if that is like a groovy

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<v Speaker 5>and funny way to explain what infinity is to somebody. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 5>but no, no, damn monkeys are going to produce the

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<v Speaker 5>works of Shay. Can you imagine? And the first time

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<v Speaker 5>I heard that, I said, I'm not buying that. No,

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<v Speaker 5>not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 5>You get like to the I don't remember the last

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<v Speaker 5>thing Shakespeare wrote, but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to the end and like on the last page,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a typo.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's the great Simpsons joke where mister Burns

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<v Speaker 4>walks in a room full of monkeys at typewriters and

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<v Speaker 4>he pulls a piece of paper out at one of

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<v Speaker 4>the monkeys typewriters and he reads it was the best

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<v Speaker 4>of times.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the blurst of times.

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<v Speaker 5>He's angry because a monkey's had a typo right, hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were able to type literature. They just made

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake on one word, and he was angry. Also

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<v Speaker 2>read three search.

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<v Speaker 4>I just was looking at this schedule. Both candidates have

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<v Speaker 4>huge schedules today, radio interviews, rallies, appearances, So they must think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I supposed to make sense if half the

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<v Speaker 4>votes have already been cast, half the votes haven't, but

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<v Speaker 4>boy she got half.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the tiny amount that could be persuaded by one

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<v Speaker 2>more radio interview or rally, which has got to be

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<v Speaker 2>a tiny number.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. I just think everybody's thinking about

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty. We're a vanishingly small number of votes decide

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<v Speaker 5>the election. But I happened to know a person who

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<v Speaker 5>was absolutely determined to vote. Uh, but they are perhaps

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<v Speaker 5>attending a graduate school that's somewhat distant from their home

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<v Speaker 5>address and was gonna have to track and then decided

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<v Speaker 5>not to, then decided to again, or maybe you got to.

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<v Speaker 5>You're a truck driver and your route gets all screwed

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<v Speaker 5>up and you're gonna get home late anyway, and you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I'm just one vote.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just trying to get.

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<v Speaker 5>That last tiny squeeze, that last drop of turnout.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, got a sick kid at home today. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can be planning to do something, the kids sick,

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<v Speaker 4>and you think, yeah, I just got too much going on.

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<v Speaker 2>It can happen unless there's just that one little tweak.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to hear?

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<v Speaker 5>The California thing is long we're talking about this could

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<v Speaker 5>California elect Donald Trump? It's from the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 5>editorial board. There has been so much outflow of people

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<v Speaker 5>from California, New York and Illinois that it might swing

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<v Speaker 5>the election for Donald Trump. What it's plausible that the

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<v Speaker 5>population flight from those states to some of this year's

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<v Speaker 5>electoral battlegrounds could help Trump win a second term. And

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<v Speaker 5>they mention it's not only that a lot of conservative

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<v Speaker 5>to moderate people have left the Blue states but population

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<v Speaker 5>shifts in the twenty tens reduced the Democrats advantage in

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<v Speaker 5>the electoral college. California, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 5>and West Virginia each lost a vote in the electoral

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<v Speaker 5>college because they lost a rep in the House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 5>Texas picked up two. Colorado, Florida, Montana, North Carolina, and

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<v Speaker 5>Oregon each added one. And they go through a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of scenarios where Kamala Harris starts the count with a

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<v Speaker 5>built in lead that's three votes smaller than Joe Biden's

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty, the sure blue states are three electoral

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<v Speaker 5>votes fewer than they were, and they run through various

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<v Speaker 5>scenarios where if she won a fairly predictable slate of states,

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<v Speaker 5>she'd be two electoral votes short just because of the

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<v Speaker 5>change in population over the last decade.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I'm taking in some of the cable news channel media,

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<v Speaker 4>just through highlights and stuff like that. Democrat panels seem

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<v Speaker 4>a little panicked. I don't know what insider information they have,

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<v Speaker 4>but there it looks like there's some finger pointing going on.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna talk to Lennie jen about the election coming

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<v Speaker 4>up stay with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Are strong and getty.

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<v Speaker 9>You say, Kamala, you're horrible at your job. You don't

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<v Speaker 9>know what you're doing. You're a low IQ individual. We

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<v Speaker 9>want smart people, we want cunning people. We're dealing with

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<v Speaker 9>the smartest people in the world. We don't want your

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<v Speaker 9>negotiating nuclear deals because you don't want there.

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<v Speaker 10>You don't know what the word nuclear means. Kamala, Yeah fired,

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<v Speaker 10>Get the hell out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>I ask you one last time. Are you ready to

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<v Speaker 2>make your voices heard? Do we believe in freedom? Do

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<v Speaker 2>we believe in opportunity?

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<v Speaker 8>Do we believe in the promise of America?

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<v Speaker 11>Wait? Running to find.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah? Bless what could be better after hearing from our

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<v Speaker 12>two sterling candidates than Lady Gaga lifting her voice in.

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<v Speaker 2>Saul turn it Up? Michael standy side. Oh boy, I

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<v Speaker 2>just saw Why am I? What have I done that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being punished like this? I just saw Van Jones off.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just saw Van Jones on CNN saying I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think closing with all the celebrities was a good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>The difference is working class, blue collar people Michigan, Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 4>and Pennsylvania. I don't think Lady Gaga and all these celebrities.

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<v Speaker 4>Was a good idea that's from Van Jones, which I

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<v Speaker 4>think is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, he's a serious man. Speaking of serious men.

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<v Speaker 5>Please welcome lon each end of the show, Lonie David

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<v Speaker 5>and Diane Staffy, Fellow in American Public Policy Studies at

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<v Speaker 5>the Hoover Institution and the Director of Domestic Policy Studies

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<v Speaker 5>at Stanford University.

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<v Speaker 2>Lon Hey, greetings, how.

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<v Speaker 7>Are you Happy election day?

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<v Speaker 2>Gentlemen?

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, thank you, just just taking off on what

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<v Speaker 5>we were just talking about, like saying happy surgery days.

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<v Speaker 11>I guess everyone's ready. Everyone's ready, much like the surgery

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<v Speaker 11>for it to be done well.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's going to be done. The voting is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be done. We certainly aren't done with fighting over

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<v Speaker 4>the results and then the policy decisions that are coming

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<v Speaker 4>with either of these two candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be something right.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean unfortunately, because you know, you look at

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<v Speaker 11>California as an example, how long it takes us to

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<v Speaker 11>count ballots. You know, we probably won't have a result

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<v Speaker 11>in some of these really close congressional races for even

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<v Speaker 11>a couple of weeks. And then of course there's all

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<v Speaker 11>the discussion about what will happen in the new Congress

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<v Speaker 11>and the new administration, and that doesn't happen till January,

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<v Speaker 11>so it is an extended conversation. You wish that we

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<v Speaker 11>could have a system of slightly more efficient vote counting

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<v Speaker 11>and that people had a lot of faith and trust in,

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<v Speaker 11>but this is where we're at, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 11>the system we have, and I think it is going

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<v Speaker 11>to be a little bit before we get a result.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I hadn't intended to talk about this, but

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<v Speaker 5>as long as you brought it up. I saw a

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<v Speaker 5>piece in the Journal not long ago that Democrats make

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<v Speaker 5>California a battleground state, talking about how there are several

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<v Speaker 5>important congressional races that used to be pretty easy to

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<v Speaker 5>call blue, but there's been a certain amount of backlash

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<v Speaker 5>in California.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and actually, you know, amongst the folks listening to

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<v Speaker 11>the show, you've got people who are in these really

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<v Speaker 11>important targeted districts, and they go all the way up

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<v Speaker 11>and down the state. So in the Central Valley, you've

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<v Speaker 11>got one that's near Stockton that picks up a good

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<v Speaker 11>part of San Joaquin County, just a sliver of Contra

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<v Speaker 11>Costa County and runs a little bit south from there,

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<v Speaker 11>you've got one in the Central Valley, two in the

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<v Speaker 11>Central Valley. Actually, then you go down to Orange County

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<v Speaker 11>and you've got several down there that are important, including

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<v Speaker 11>one that extends into northern San Diego County. So there

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<v Speaker 11>are actually, I would say probably five or six really

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<v Speaker 11>competitive congressional districts that Republicans have not just a decent

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<v Speaker 11>shot in, but probably should win at least a number

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<v Speaker 11>of them. So it does really argue against the notion

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<v Speaker 11>of blue hegemony in California. I think these seats are

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<v Speaker 11>actually really important to determining control of Congress, and that's

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<v Speaker 11>why it's really important for folks to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be good for America in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>So speaking of America in the national race, Harris versus Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>give us if Harris wins, she ends up being the winner.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the three reasons she won? Wow? Great?

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<v Speaker 7>Question.

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<v Speaker 11>Number one is that she's able to reassemble key elements

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<v Speaker 11>of I guess what she'd call the Obama Coalition, and

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<v Speaker 11>that's you know, union members, that's African American voters, that's

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<v Speaker 11>Hispanic voters, and it's suburban whites. And if she's able

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<v Speaker 11>to win, it's going to be because that coalition has

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<v Speaker 11>essentially come back together.

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<v Speaker 7>That'd be number one. Number two, she's able to activate women.

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<v Speaker 11>And this is the great unanswered question we have as

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<v Speaker 11>we sit here at seven thirty am Pacific. How many

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<v Speaker 11>women are going to vote and how are they going

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<v Speaker 11>to vote? If the if you look at American politics,

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<v Speaker 11>the two biggest predictors of how someone's going to vote

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<v Speaker 11>are their gender and their education level. And if you

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<v Speaker 11>if you look at an elector tonight that is overwhelmingly

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<v Speaker 11>female versus male, that will give you some indication that

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<v Speaker 11>she's doing either better than expected or certainly online with

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<v Speaker 11>the expectations to make this a very close race. And

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<v Speaker 11>then the last thing I'll just say is the abortion issue.

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<v Speaker 11>This is something that caused the twenty twenty two elections

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<v Speaker 11>to turn out the way they did, And what I

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<v Speaker 11>mean by that is that this so called red wave

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<v Speaker 11>we were expecting really never materialized in the way that

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<v Speaker 11>we thought it would because there was so much backlash

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<v Speaker 11>and ways to that decision the Supreme Court to overturn

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<v Speaker 11>Roe versus Wade. If she's winning or if she wins

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<v Speaker 11>this election, it will be because that issue activated key

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<v Speaker 11>voters in key states, and it doesn't show up as

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<v Speaker 11>a top issue necessarily compared to the economy and immigration,

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<v Speaker 11>but it is a top issue for some of those

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<v Speaker 11>voters I talked about earlier, part of the Obama coalition,

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of the women voters that may show up

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<v Speaker 11>to support her, Those will be the three reasons why

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<v Speaker 11>she wins.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you just tipped your hand. What are

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<v Speaker 4>the three reasons if Trump ends up the victor that

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<v Speaker 4>he won?

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<v Speaker 10>Well?

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<v Speaker 11>Number one, you know, I mean the flip side of

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<v Speaker 11>that is his ability to create a coalition that's unlike

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<v Speaker 11>any other Republican has created before, and that means driving

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<v Speaker 11>up margins, particularly with urban voters.

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<v Speaker 7>We've talked a little.

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<v Speaker 11>Bit about the way in which he's managed to erode

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<v Speaker 11>the Democrat advantage on black voters and on Hispanic voters.

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<v Speaker 7>If that really does end.

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<v Speaker 11>Up being true, that'll go a long way toward explaining

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<v Speaker 11>a Trump success. The second thing I would say is

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<v Speaker 11>it's his ability to activate white working class voters who

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<v Speaker 11>don't traditionally vote. We call them low propensity voters, but

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<v Speaker 11>you're talking about folks who don't make a habit of

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<v Speaker 11>going to the ballot box. These are people who might

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<v Speaker 11>only vote for Donald Trump and not for anybody else.

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<v Speaker 11>And that's why a lot of these Senate candidates who

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<v Speaker 11>are Republicans, even in these swing states, are going to

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<v Speaker 11>have issues potentially even if Trump wins, He's got to

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<v Speaker 11>win by a lot for them to get across the

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<v Speaker 11>finish line in some cases. But it is really about

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<v Speaker 11>how he's able potentially to activate these voters. And then

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<v Speaker 11>the last thing is just the issue focus. If we

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<v Speaker 11>look at exit polling tonight, and by far the key

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<v Speaker 11>issues that voters are keying in on are at the

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<v Speaker 11>economy and immigration, it could be a very good night

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<v Speaker 11>for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, this can be a very very brief answer if

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<v Speaker 5>you want, how are you setting yourself up emotionally for that?

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<v Speaker 5>How long is it going to take booze figure out

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<v Speaker 5>who's won?

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<v Speaker 2>Booze? Is the answer? Yes? How about that? That's going

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<v Speaker 2>to take?

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<v Speaker 7>That is the answer?

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<v Speaker 5>Or is that impossible to say? And if it's impossible,

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<v Speaker 5>it's fine.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, you know, look, I think if the polls and

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<v Speaker 11>the estimates are right, it is going to take us

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<v Speaker 11>at least a few days to resolve some of these states. Now, look,

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<v Speaker 11>there's a probability, there's a possibility that this isn't close

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<v Speaker 11>at all. I mean, if we look and we see,

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<v Speaker 11>for example, that Kamala Harris is competitive in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 11>and by competitive I mean she's either ahead or within

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<v Speaker 11>striking distance. The same goes for Georgia, this could be

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<v Speaker 11>over very quickly for her. On the flip side of it,

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<v Speaker 11>if we see that Donald Trump's margins in Pennsylvania are

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<v Speaker 11>much more significant than we would have expected coming from

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<v Speaker 11>the early vote, and that she is not making up

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<v Speaker 11>enough ground in the urban core of Philadelphia, it could

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<v Speaker 11>be over.

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<v Speaker 7>Very early for Donald Trump tonight. So here's what I

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<v Speaker 7>would say.

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<v Speaker 11>I'd say probably a sixty percent likelihood that this goes

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<v Speaker 11>into tomorrow or beyond, no, maybe seventy percent, and then

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<v Speaker 11>there's a thirty percent likelihood that either Trump or Harris

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<v Speaker 11>is declared the winner overnight tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>So going from I want a short answer to this,

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<v Speaker 5>one can be book length. In fact, if you'd like

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<v Speaker 5>to talk to the show Wow, we will just tell

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<v Speaker 5>you when to break for commercials and listen. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's been said that a loss can be a gift

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<v Speaker 5>in a way because you can reassess and reinvent your

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<v Speaker 5>party and go forward to greater success in the future,

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<v Speaker 5>abandon some of the bad habits that drag you down.

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<v Speaker 2>Each party if they lose, what is.

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<v Speaker 5>The big change you think they should make and feel

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<v Speaker 5>free to throw in whether you think they're smart or

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<v Speaker 5>self aware enough.

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<v Speaker 2>To do it.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, let's start with the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 11>I think it is really important for them to understand

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<v Speaker 11>that the excesses of the last few years on a

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<v Speaker 11>whole set of issues, whether I would call them cultural

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<v Speaker 11>issues or economics in terms of using stuff like the

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<v Speaker 11>Inflation Reduction Act, massive increases in spending. The combination of

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 11>that excess has driven them into a position in many

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<v Speaker 11>states where they just aren't as competitive as they used

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<v Speaker 11>to be. The old kind of working class union base

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<v Speaker 11>of the Democratic Party has been eroded in many states,

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<v Speaker 11>and that's because they have simply gone too far. And

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<v Speaker 11>if you ask voters in a lot of places, they'll

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<v Speaker 11>tell you that they think that the progressive excesses of

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<v Speaker 11>the Democratic Party are what have turned them off and

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<v Speaker 11>have ultimately made them support Donald Trump, who made them So.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you trying to tell me that the average guy

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<v Speaker 4>that works in the machine shop is not down with

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<v Speaker 4>the termal of TX.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I mean, that's that's a great example. That's a

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<v Speaker 11>great example. And it's not even the term. It's being

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<v Speaker 11>made to feel badly that you don't use the term,

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<v Speaker 11>or being made to feel badly that you don't adhere

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<v Speaker 11>to a certain orthodoxy. And I think that that excess

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<v Speaker 11>on the left has really cost them electorally in many

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<v Speaker 11>of these places we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 7>Whether it's in so again, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't have a PhD, but you're suggesting that never ending

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<v Speaker 5>judgment and condensation, condescension rather starts to wear on people.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I know it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 11>It's crazy, right, I mean, we we we we all

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<v Speaker 11>love a good lecture.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess what.

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<v Speaker 11>About the Republicans, you know there, I think it will be.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't nominate Trump again?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I know, I mean I think that that that

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<v Speaker 11>they may be part of it is, but but I

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<v Speaker 11>think the other part of it is there. There does

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<v Speaker 11>need to be a little bit of a re examination

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<v Speaker 11>because I think that over the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 11>there are issues on which Democrats and Republicans have actually converged.

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<v Speaker 11>And one of those I've mentioned already, which is really

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<v Speaker 11>leaning in on a bigger role for the federal government,

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<v Speaker 11>and that includes on on spending, it includes on uh,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, on on abortion rights, for example. There's been

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<v Speaker 11>some conversation about this as well, but the basic point

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<v Speaker 11>is that if you look at the nineteen eighties and

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<v Speaker 11>nineteen nineties, there was a contrast, a pretty clear contrast

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<v Speaker 11>in terms of the role of government, in terms of

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<v Speaker 11>the way in which Republicans and Democrats approached it, approach

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<v Speaker 11>certain economic questions, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 7>And there was a contrast.

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<v Speaker 11>And over the last couple of years some of that

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<v Speaker 11>contrast I think has arguably eroded, and I think Republicans

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<v Speaker 11>have to figure out again, are there elements of that

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<v Speaker 11>let's call it traditional approach to economic policy, for.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 7>Example, that need to be renovated.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, aside from the Trump question, which I think

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<v Speaker 11>is obviously the big lingering eight hundred pound gorilla, if

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<v Speaker 11>you will, which is to what degree was it a

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<v Speaker 11>function of nominating him? I think there will be some

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<v Speaker 11>conversation about that, But there's a bigger issue that goes

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<v Speaker 11>well beyond Trump, which is what doesn't mean to be

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<v Speaker 11>a Republican? I mean, like, what does that actually mean anymore?

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<v Speaker 11>And I think there's been, aside from being the Party

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<v Speaker 11>of Trump, which is what it's been for the last

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 11>better part of eight years. Now, I think people will

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<v Speaker 11>need to really sit back and say, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>do we have a viable center right conservative movement in

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<v Speaker 11>this country and what does it look like in contrast

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<v Speaker 11>to what the Democrats are proposing.

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<v Speaker 2>Lani Chen, who I believe the stat is right.

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<v Speaker 4>You got more Republican votes in twenty twenty two than

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<v Speaker 4>anybody in the country.

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<v Speaker 11>More votes, Yeah, more including Versantis, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and unfortunately he lost because California is a communist state.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, you said it, not me right, one party kleptocracy.

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<v Speaker 5>Lani Chen of the Hoover Institution in Stanford University.

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<v Speaker 2>We look forward to chatting with you post election. Lani.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense of the.

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<v Speaker 11>Mess absolutely, And if you haven't voted yet, get out

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<v Speaker 11>there and vote today.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. That is.

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<v Speaker 4>That is an amazing stat because Ron de Santis won

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<v Speaker 4>by like twenty points in a very large state. He

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<v Speaker 4>still didn't get him any as many votes as Lanhi

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<v Speaker 4>Chen got. And Lani Chen was endorsed by what the

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<v Speaker 4>La Times, the San Francisco Chronicle. I mean everybody needs still.

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<v Speaker 5>Major publication website in California, the scratch Still the politics

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<v Speaker 5>are so stupid that there were so many people that

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<v Speaker 5>just could not vote for an R under any circumstances.

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<v Speaker 4>And just you know, I hope we moved past that

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<v Speaker 4>at some point. I mean, just as a nation, not

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 4>even California, and the well.

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 5>California is unique, and that the order came down from

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<v Speaker 5>all the public employee unions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah whatever, vote D and.

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<v Speaker 5>They voted D so and nominated half a crook and

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 5>half a moron or elected rather.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the most respected posters American, Nate Silver, ran

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<v Speaker 4>his simulator last night with all the polls in eighty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand times eighty thousand simulations.

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<v Speaker 2>How did it turn out? Who won?

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<v Speaker 4>We'll hit you with that, among other things on the way.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, Nancy Pelosi, she's a crooked person. She is

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<v Speaker 10>a bad person, evil, she's an evil, sick crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh no, it starts with it B. But I won't

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<v Speaker 10>say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I want to say it.

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<v Speaker 10>I want to say but Franklin Graham said, sir, I

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<v Speaker 10>love your speaking ability, and I love your storytelling, but honestly,

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<v Speaker 10>it would be even better if you wouldn't use foul language,

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<v Speaker 10>and I don't use much, you know, every once in

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<v Speaker 10>a while, and it's never a real bad word. It's

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 10>you know, it's like never bad and so I try

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<v Speaker 10>to it here. But he's wrong about one thing. It

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<v Speaker 10>is a little better when you use the foul language

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 10>because it's more actress.

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<v Speaker 4>So either wing either Today is kind of the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the whole Trump thing after nearly a decade or

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<v Speaker 4>four more years as president of the most powerful nation

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<v Speaker 4>on earth.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll see in Islan.

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<v Speaker 5>He was hinting at at least what does the Republican

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<v Speaker 5>Party look like without Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question. Nobody knows the answer to that. What's its platform?

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 10>So?

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<v Speaker 2>How interested are people in the election?

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 4>I came across this yesterday to help booster my willingness

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 4>to talk about this. What percentage of people rate their

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 4>interest in the election at a nine out of ten

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 4>or higher? So nine out of ten or ten out

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<v Speaker 4>of ten, And it's about eighty percent of people. And

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta believe of people listening to the show or

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 4>taking in podcasts or talk radio or whatever, you're in

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 4>that crowd. But eighty percent of people rate it as

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 4>a nine or ten Their level of interest. That is something.

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<v Speaker 5>So I want to be surprised to hear that, honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>given the spectacular turnout across the country in early voting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah so, Nate.

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<v Speaker 4>Silver is one of the more respected pollsters in America.

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<v Speaker 4>He ran his final simulation after midnight last night of

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<v Speaker 4>how he thought it was going to turn out. He

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<v Speaker 4>plugs in all the poles and all the waiting, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's got his own methodology, which I don't think he

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 4>shares all of it.

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 2>And the Chiefs beat the Eagles twenty seven to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? They run the computer simulations eighty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand times before the Super Bowl too?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, gotcha, So maddens thing. He ran his simulation

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<v Speaker 4>eighty thousand times. What's interesting about this to me is

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<v Speaker 4>with all the polling plugged in and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 4>Harris won forty thousand and twelve eighty thousand times. He

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<v Speaker 4>ran the whole simulation. She won twelve more times than Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you have it. It's pretty close. Apparently.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I feel like the gods are mocking us or something.

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<v Speaker 5>There were punished, right, punished or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know, as we've been saying it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>seem like if your goal was to get the country

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<v Speaker 4>fifty to fifty, you could get this close possible.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, no, no, back to an infinite number of

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<v Speaker 5>monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters know, an infinite

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<v Speaker 5>number of political operatives with an infinite amount of cash

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<v Speaker 5>could not produce an election this close.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just looking up at cable news channels.

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<v Speaker 4>I observed something worth commenting on, among other things, we'd

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<v Speaker 4>like to hear your texts too and emails.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty