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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. Deuce had no interest whatsoever and gambling at all.

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Speaker 1: Thank God. Well, he's Johnny American over there. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's like mister pure blood. I'm already on edge, don't

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Speaker 1: He's already pushing me over the edge. Today everyone's pumping

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Speaker 1: the Patriots up, like now, I Patriots. There's still gonna

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Speaker 1: be some really interesting matchups in these last three games.

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Speaker 1: That that'll tell you something. I can arrogance. Yes, right, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you should have heard the harum thing in the press

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Speaker 1: spots from Eric on that game. He was disgusted. He

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Speaker 1: loves the cloud of Blues. I can't live. You're right,

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Speaker 1: it's probably about the I don't know if I'm right

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Speaker 1: or wrong, but I don't consider South America to be overseas.

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Speaker 1: Eric wishes he was in Europe, so that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: His mind is in Europe. That should be his sky swap.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather be in Europe. Is Patriot's Unfiltered fueled by

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Speaker 1: Duncan All right, Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday

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Speaker 1: here at Gillette Stadium getting ready for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Who I'm not sure if the team's going to be

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Speaker 1: able to show up at this point. It's unbelievable. So

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Speaker 1: many guys. I think they have eight guys total, I do.

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Speaker 1: I think they're trying to for across my mind this

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Speaker 1: morning when look, I think they're done. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to play. I literally counted up between defensive end, defensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: and linebackers. They got eight guy nobody now eight guys

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Speaker 1: half joking, but I think there might be some truth,

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Speaker 1: like they do still want to play anymore. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of incentive, there's not there's very little

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Speaker 1: just say you guys winning and we don't need to

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Speaker 1: play it? All right? The league said something earlier about

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Speaker 1: being able to forfeit. You do you want to do that?

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Speaker 1: Can we do that? We do that situation? Can we

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Speaker 1: ask to keep that? So? You know, with the new

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Speaker 1: be able to play. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you know, they wouldn't have been able to practice and

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Speaker 1: so on, and you know, so the question is, okay,

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Speaker 1: so what will we be able to gather out of

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Speaker 1: this game? And I think what we need to see

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Speaker 1: is the Patriots just take care of business from beginning

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Speaker 1: to end. No Houston Texan game, nothing like that. We

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Speaker 1: need to see a Patriots team come out and just

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Speaker 1: outright dominate that well from beginning to end. But if

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Speaker 1: it's against a the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are be like

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Speaker 1: fielding a third string preseason team. Yeah, that's half but

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Speaker 1: what are you really going to learn but that? But

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Speaker 1: if they don't do that, you'll learn a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: But a good team should be able to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go out there and execute. You know, at the end

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Speaker 1: game from the beginning to end. Yeah, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: this game from beginning. No, because the Jacksonville Jaguars are

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Speaker 1: like eight of the front seven as always just said

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Speaker 1: him today. You know, just his name is synonymous with

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Speaker 1: to billboards and stuff like that like that. That stuff

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Speaker 1: is weak to me. Like if if the Bills made

425
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Speaker 1: a big deal of like that kind of crap that

426
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Speaker 1: their fans do, that's weak. I think. Wow, I don't know.

427
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Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean, it was all over the game,

428
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 1: but that's other people to do it. But to put

429
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Speaker 1: it on their own social media stuff, we don't. We don't,

430
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Speaker 1: we don't accentuate. Let's put the banner up. Let's put

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Speaker 1: the banners up. Let's get banners. See that's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like I'll make fun of that. Yeah, like I saw that.

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Speaker 1: Basically they put a banner on social media is what

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Speaker 1: they did. That's not that's a stat stat. It's an

435
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Speaker 1: sid stat now you know me, I don't have any

436
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 1: made a graphic out of it, a whole graphic with

437
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Speaker 1: artwork and everything, like, yeah, I don't have any use

438
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Speaker 1: for it. I would agree with you, but I don't

439
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Speaker 1: have any use for any of it. So I don't

440
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Speaker 1: want to offend. I know that we have like an

441
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Speaker 1: ever growing empire or of that department in our organization.

442
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Speaker 1: But I don't have any use for any of those things. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: so if that's the if, if that's the threshold, then

444
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: I think it was dumb. But I mean, like, I

445
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: think that's what every team does, is they accentuate the

446
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: positive stats that's their team exactly, you know, achieves. I

447
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 1: think that's what that's what they're a social media departments.

448
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: Like if you had two hundred fifty yards rushing, or

449
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: if somebody had five times, yeah fine, or you win

450
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: a game with three passes, yeah, which may or may

451
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Speaker 1: not have happened three weeks ago. I don't know. Patriots

452
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 1: didn't put that up. We didn't make a graphic Patriots

453
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Speaker 1: had three passes and won the game. We never did that.

454
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Speaker 1: We put it in our postgame notes though, and we

455
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: put that out there all the time. That's that's just

456
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: that was just the stats of the game exactly. But

457
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: you know that's a stature. The first team to beat

458
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Speaker 1: the Patriots twice in Gillette Stadium since the coast. You know,

459
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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, I guess some people could look at

460
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Speaker 1: it as a compliment to the post it's a compliment

461
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Speaker 1: to the Patriots. It's never happened since oh five oh six. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's an accomplishment. A lot of teams

463
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Speaker 1: have had a chance to beat them and can secutar

464
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Speaker 1: years and Gillette Stadium. They're not gonna win over fifteen year,

465
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: not been able to do it. They're not gonna win

466
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Speaker 1: the super Bowl because of that. Yes, I agree, I'm

467
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Speaker 1: telling you, I would agree. I'm telling you that's going

468
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: to trip them up. That's right. Okay, that's right, all right,

469
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Speaker 1: as long as we're talking, I would agree rationally here.

470
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Speaker 1: I would agree that's right, and I know our listeners

471
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Speaker 1: are with me. I agree. Yeah, that's why they will lose.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right. Five five PATS five hundred is

473
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Speaker 1: the a stick at outline web Radio super Bowl because

474
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Speaker 1: of that? Because Mike McCarthey just rolled out of bed.

475
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Speaker 1: What the hell is he doing? I mean, we got

476
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Speaker 1: nothing to say about that. Wow, Our guys, our guy's

477
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: track records a little different than that guy, that's true.

478
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Speaker 1: But what's he's gotta He's got a hoodie that says

479
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Speaker 1: victory with the Dallas Victory. Matt, Please tell me you wow. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Web Radio at Patriots dot com is the email address,

481
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Speaker 1: um so what anything we you know, we talked about

482
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: the COVID the situation with the Jazz, like it's I

483
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: agree with you. They have to they have to sort

484
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: of lay lay the woods. They got to Jacksonville. We better.

485
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Speaker 1: This is uh, this is like one of those old

486
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Jets weeks where like the you know, the Jets word

487
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: horrible and horrible and there's hard it's hard to get

488
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Speaker 1: excited about this kind of Will you be upset if

489
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots only do what's necessary to win? In other words,

490
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: they you know, they come out, establish the run, find

491
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Speaker 1: out we can do whatever we want on the run,

492
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Speaker 1: and they never really pass a lot and they just

493
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Speaker 1: keep the ball and run the ball and win the

494
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: game like twenty one three. Would you be okay with that? Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah,

495
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: because because we had some people saying, you know, you know,

496
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Speaker 1: if they have a chance to give Matt Jones more work,

497
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: give him the work. Yeah. But I'm not a big

498
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Speaker 1: fan of the you know, five twenty five yards for borrow,

499
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Speaker 1: like you know, which I'm by the way, I'm sure

500
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Speaker 1: they put up graphic up for that and the like,

501
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Speaker 1: really I'm not really a big fan of that kind

502
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Speaker 1: of stuff in blowouts now if it comes organically, that's different, right,

503
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Speaker 1: Like I don't need like the Jets win wouldn't have

504
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Speaker 1: been any different to me if it was thirty four

505
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Speaker 1: to thirteen as opposed to fifty four to thirteen. Like

506
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Speaker 1: anything like after a certain point, anything that happens to

507
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: me is kind of irrelevant. Yeah. Now, I understand if

508
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Speaker 1: Bill looks at it a little bit differently and says

509
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Speaker 1: something like that that Mac could use fill in the blank.

510
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Speaker 1: And if that's what he chooses to do because of that,

511
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Speaker 1: I have no problem with that either. He might think

512
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: that Mac could could benefit from some of that. I

513
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: just want them to get out of this game healthy

514
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: and with a win. I mean, it doesn't have to

515
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: be perfect, doesn't have to be pretty, but like you

516
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: need this game against an opponent that has no business

517
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Speaker 1: coming in here and winning. Just get the lead and

518
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: get off the field and get to weeks because it's

519
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: gonna come down to week eighteen. You don't care about

520
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: going to come to a week, you don't care about

521
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Speaker 1: style points. And then no, I don't little, I mean

522
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Speaker 1: I do, really, I mean I do a little, Like

523
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be three to nothing. They twenty

524
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Speaker 1: four and in Jacksonville, ends the game on the on

525
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: the you know, like they did against the Jets, Right,

526
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Speaker 1: that's that's a problematic. Then then then you're scared to

527
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Speaker 1: death to go to Miami. I mean, you think they

528
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Speaker 1: wanted to be any important thing, But I wouldn't feel

529
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Speaker 1: great about that. But I'm talking about what you said. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 1: they went. They take control of the game from the outset,

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Speaker 1: and they're never in trouble care if they win by

532
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Speaker 1: forty or twenty, right, that's kind of how I feel,

533
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: and and get out of the game without any major,

534
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Speaker 1: you know, health issues. And because it's I think there's

535
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: gonna be so much on the line around the league

536
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: in Week eighteen that it's gonna be one of the

537
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Speaker 1: more you know, consequential weeks we've had in this league

538
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: in a while. You know, And I'm talking about you

539
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: take control of the game from the outset. Yeah, so

540
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: you get you get a lead, and then you throw

541
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Speaker 1: them back in the second half and run the clock,

542
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: just grind it away. That's fine. Now, if you get

543
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: a couple of picks sixes in the fourth quarter and

544
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: that's why you win by twenty, you're gonna you know,

545
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: kind of like Atlanta. Yeah, you know, the Atlanta game

546
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: was reasonably competitive for a long time, even though it

547
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: looked like the Patriots are going to win it the

548
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: whole way, and then they finished with you know, interceptions

549
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: against three different quarterbacks. But that to me is different

550
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: than just you you described. They just come out, they

551
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: get a lead, and then they just do whatever they

552
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: can to get out of there. And right, I have

553
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: no problem with that. Okay, that's because I know some

554
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: people will like they'll be like, why didn't they let

555
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: mac pas you know needs with the receivers, and there's

556
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Speaker 1: a segment of the population that's always going to be

557
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: upset when they win. Yeah, no matter what there are

558
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: and we get you get them, I get you get

559
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Speaker 1: Damian Harris has three touchdowns. Henry said that during the

560
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Speaker 1: game exactly exactly where's Henry, you know, So you do

561
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: get an element of that. We get some of it

562
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: in the post game show too. Um, but I think

563
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: at this point they got to get back on track.

564
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: That's the number one item of importance. Um. Okay, So

565
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: let's just open it up. We'll see what our listeners

566
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Speaker 1: have to say, what they're thinking about. Start off with, um,

567
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: someone named next Level Next Level. Madden was absolutely the

568
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: draw for people to play the games early on. For

569
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Speaker 1: the first eleven years of the game, it was just

570
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: him on the cover. Since two thousand and one, it's

571
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: always been a player there. Now, Okay, didn't know that

572
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: fun fact. Yeah, I think he was actually also on

573
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Speaker 1: the sideline too. But I'm just wondering if if that's

574
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Speaker 1: if that's accurate, I'd be curious to hear from from

575
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Speaker 1: the Madden Knights, you know, the people that play that.

576
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: Do you really did you really buy it and play it?

577
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Because Madden was on the cover back then, right were

578
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm getting scoffing shaking, But it was because it was

579
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Speaker 1: a football game, football video, it was, and it was

580
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: the best football game, correct, Yeah, Bill writes in from DC.

581
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: The passing at John Madden got me thinking how much

582
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: more fun the NFL used to be back in the seventies,

583
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. Players like Namith and Butt Gis and

584
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: me and Joe Green, we're all larger than life, and

585
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: guys like Madden and Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith were

586
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: personalities that made you want to tune into a game,

587
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: unlike the cookie cutter announcers today who all sound the same.

588
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: There was no social media. See, actually got to decide

589
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: on your own who you liked and didn't like. Today's

590
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: players are better trained and probably more skilled, but there

591
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: aren't many that you want to go and have a

592
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: beer with. Cold. Call me old school, but there will

593
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Speaker 1: never be another John Madden, and that's really too bad. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that he's confusing the play by

595
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Speaker 1: play guys with what John Madden did, because I think

596
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: the play by play guys are a cookie cutter. I

597
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: think there's no question about it. They all all sort

598
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Speaker 1: of to me, I can't even recognize who they are

599
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: sometimes I think they all sound so similar. Um wow, wow,

600
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Speaker 1: I think they all sound the same. But the color guys,

601
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: the color analysts, I don't think they're all cookie cutter.

602
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: I think you know, like them or hate them. I

603
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: think Madden had a different style. I think Tony Romo

604
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Speaker 1: has a different style. Yeah, you know, I think play

605
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: before it, and I think Chris Collinsworth has a different style.

606
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't think those guys are cookie cutter. Yeah.

607
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Speaker 1: Now again, I'm not telling you I like, dislike, or

608
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Speaker 1: whatever any of these guys, But I don't think they're

609
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Speaker 1: all the same. Yeah, I think the play by play

610
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: guys largely are all the same. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I

611
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Speaker 1: think Jim Nance is probably the Jim Nance and Joe Buck.

612
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Speaker 1: I think friends. They're the best at it. That's why

613
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Speaker 1: they're they're the lead guys on their respective networks. I

614
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Speaker 1: think they're better than the rest. But let's face it,

615
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: they all say and sound the same thing. It's it's

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Speaker 1: the same Tommy, how are you this evening? Yeah? I

617
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Speaker 1: like Buck, I like I like NaN's, I like Alan Michaels,

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Speaker 1: Michael was Day, He's I think a little bit you know,

619
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Speaker 1: past it at this point. But yeah, but like story.

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Speaker 1: But you look at a guy like Phil Simms as

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Speaker 1: a color guy. I hated him, not because he was

622
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Speaker 1: a giant and all that. He didn't have much to say,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have it, but again his style, but his

624
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Speaker 1: style was different than a lot of other guys too.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't I agree with you. I don't think

626
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Speaker 1: he was great at it. I think Troy Aikman, um,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't sound the same to me as I think

628
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Speaker 1: he's gotten better. I think Aikman and Tony Romo couldn't

629
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Speaker 1: be more more different. Their approach, and I think Romo

630
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Speaker 1: coming on the scene pushed Aikman. I think to me,

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Speaker 1: Aikman was almost like Phil Simms, didn't really do much.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's gotten better. I think he's gotten

633
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Speaker 1: a little bit what I liked about Madden. And I

634
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: know Patriots fans still mock him, like they had that

635
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: embarrassing Madden chant at the opener Gillette Stadium after we

636
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know, because he deigned

637
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: to have an opinion that was different than what Bill

638
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: Belichick did, and and I know it was you know,

639
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: wasn't really overly mean spirited, but I thought it was unnecessary.

640
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Like what I liked about what Madden did there was

641
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: he immediately said he was wrong, like right not. He

642
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: didn't wait three days and say in retrospect, you know,

643
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: he immediately said, I can't believe what they're doing now.

644
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done as a as a coach and

645
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: as an analyst, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have done this.

646
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: This isn't what I would have done. But you got

647
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: to give Charlie White's credit for doing this. And then

648
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: when it was over and they finished it, he said,

649
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: what Tom Brady just did gave me goose bumps, right,

650
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: so like live in the moment he said, wow, yeah,

651
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: And I give him a lot of credit for But

652
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of other guys would have said,

653
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: well it worked, but they were lucky, right, yeah, because

654
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: they didn't do what I said. I can't be I

655
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: can't be wrong. Yeah. So but that was part of

656
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: his The analytics say you shouldn't be going for that.

657
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: I was part of it. And I do think a

658
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: lot of those guys, the ones that are best at

659
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: being color analysts, don't just tell you what happened on

660
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: the play. They're telling you they're talking about strategy, like

661
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: they're watching the replay of a penalty and they're telling

662
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: you that's that's a penalty that's got to get called.

663
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Or they're talking about strategy. Oh, that's a bad time

664
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: out there, like you need like they're alive because and

665
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: that's why so many of them are quarterbacks, because they're

666
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: doing the two minute drill as it's happened. Yeah. I

667
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: think it's very impressive when you watch a broadcast and

668
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: whoever's the the analyst, as soon as a play is

669
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: over and you know the truck is re racking the

670
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: replay to have them show it again. The player who's

671
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: doing that already knows, like you know, like a sack happens,

672
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, this happened because you know the

673
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: safety was moving back here and the stunt was like

674
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: he saw all that in the why did he go? Yeah,

675
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: he wanted to go here, but they he took away

676
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: and then by the time he looked out. I think

677
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: that's very yea, And I thought that that was to me,

678
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: that was collinsworth strength. He would come in and give

679
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: you that lineman who missed the block or had the

680
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: block almost immediate immediately. Now now he forces it to

681
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: the guy who was highly highly ranked in PF and

682
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm telling he does. Yeah, they agree, they go to

683
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: packages that he sets up and then you watch the

684
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: replay and it didn't happen. But I'm I'm talking about

685
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: like when Collinsworth first stars. Yes, I agree, that's what

686
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: separated him from others. Now, maybe he had great spotters too.

687
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: Maybe they're in their ear, Oh that's the left guard

688
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: that you know. They do that for them When they

689
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: get the replays, they're getting told this is where it happened.

690
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: You know, as they're getting the replay and then they

691
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: talk about it. But I agree with you that Collinsworth

692
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: was good at that. I think now when he does it,

693
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: it's always geared to his PF the guys that are

694
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: ranked high. And then they're like, you know, watch Fred Kirsh.

695
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's really done a great job. And then

696
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: they show a replay of you know, they'll have a

697
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: package of plays for that guy and you'll see like

698
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: three plays, two of them that he did nothing on. Yep,

699
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: because they just force it, because those are the guys

700
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: that colin's Worth picks because they're highly ranked, and pfat

701
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: Eldred's is on the ace ticket outline. What's up, Eldred?

702
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm how y'all doing. Man? Did

703
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: you hear somebody scared something on the road there? Yeah? Yeah,

704
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: they jumped like hell, I'm sorry, bro, I'm sorry, I'm not. No.

705
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: There is this guy he's picking up fields of cardboard, right, yeah,

706
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: he's backing back and I blow them. So he got

707
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: out of the store looking like no, man, I'm I'm

708
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: on the phone. But he don't know. You're just a

709
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: cardinal driver. Yeah, but Paul, yes, sir, I'm a maddened stereologist.

710
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: I've been playing Madden since it came out on take

711
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: it okay and uh at bottle of Nintendo, and they

712
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: had to look at the other football game, but it

713
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: wasn't Madden. So when my buddies came, he said, uh, Jerry,

714
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: what are you what you're doing? I said, I'm playing

715
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: this lutendo. He said, I got a game for you.

716
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: Once you play at you you never put it down.

717
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: So we were like there. He bought Sticker Genness and

718
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: he bought Matt. Matt was on the first four covers,

719
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: maybe five, but after that it was players or something

720
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: of something Ela. And it's like I said, I missed

721
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: John Madden because I loved this um his game and

722
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: most most time you buy the game calls him Madden.

723
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: You don't buy another football game if it ain't named Matta.

724
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: It ain't the same, you know. But as the coach

725
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: and analyst, I loved them coming up because because I

726
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: like the way he explained things, way he's talking and

727
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, put all this STUDIASMM in

728
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: in and the writing. You know, I heard it when

729
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: I heard it last night that he paid at eighty five. Yeah,

730
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, but uh, like I said, it's it's this game.

731
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: I think his name was only just just to sell

732
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: the games. I think he was a part of it,

733
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, the diagram, the players to plays, the rating

734
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: and all of that, you know. And one thing I

735
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: can't say about him. If your team ranked seventy six,

736
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: they play like they're seventy six even now I play,

737
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm having a problem with him. I

738
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: found Patriot, but I like playing a franchise, so that

739
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: way I could be the GM and I go draft

740
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: what I want to draft. Right, there's different modes, okay, yeah,

741
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: different modes. Yeah. And then and you can't make your

742
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: own playbook up play with other teams because offense and

743
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: you you know, you could use that. So sometimes but

744
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: like not recently. I used to have fifteen to ten

745
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: guys when we play a Madden Boat, so Eldred as

746
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: as a as a football gamer, do you remember that

747
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: game that came out to compete with Madden and they

748
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: couldn't use like the actual NFL names, um and it

749
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: was like more violent and like there was trash talking

750
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Do you remember that? And the

751
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: l No, it wasn't XFL it was. It was what

752
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: was it, NFL blitz? You could like play drive the

753
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: people when you NL blitz, right, like that game? No,

754
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: you didn't like that one. I took it back and

755
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: told them something wrong. We didn't got my money back?

756
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: Oh was that right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's just like

757
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: nc it like the football college football game. If they NCUBA,

758
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, I don't get it. Yeah, they got the

759
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: real rate and real whatever. Yeah, but that game couldn't compete. Yeah,

760
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: a lot like a lot of people are like, oh

761
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: this is gonna you know, put Madden to bed, and

762
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: never did it. Never did they never did. So get

763
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: back to the Patriots. I heard y'all say this something earlier. Okay,

764
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: would y'all be surprised if they laid another egg and

765
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: lost to Dexterville. I would be surprised. I'd be stunned,

766
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: I'd be I am not emotionally prepared to lose the game,

767
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: nor am I. Yeah no, I'm not prepared to lose because,

768
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't talk so much noise lately,

769
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: and they to my well, y'all, little D's two, you

770
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: out or you lose one and Miami win? Yeah out?

771
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: You know if the only way I would believe that

772
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: would happen is if they told me that they kidnapped

773
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: the entire Patriots coaching staff and any player with over

774
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: three years of experience and that's how they played the game.

775
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: Because there's no way that's gonna happen, No way. I

776
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: don't think through that. I think I think did surprised

777
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: in Miami because I think they're embarrassed because they went

778
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: from first to worse, and you know, and they and

779
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: everything right there, and when they played against Buffalo, the coach,

780
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, they were shocked Buffalo. They were spelling. Yeah,

781
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, because I don't think you know, I never

782
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: saw the game yet either, but I keep hearing about

783
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: it from everybody else that's in my family. Treat Yeah,

784
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: I know, Well the Miami game. I won't be shocked

785
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: if they lose that game, you know, And that that

786
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: comes down to, Okay, you can be embarrassed and you

787
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: can say we want to get but do you have

788
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: the answers? Do you have the players who could do

789
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: what you need to do. I don't know. I don't

790
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. You know, we'll see. You know.

791
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: It's not like in the past where oh, the Patriots

792
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: lose the game, and they never lose two in a row,

793
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, because they were just that team, you know,

794
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: But I don't. It's they're not that team anymore, or

795
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: at least for now, you know. And at the same time,

796
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: the other teams because of that, are more capable of

797
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: beating them. Yeah, you know. Yeah, so Paul, one question, sure, Paul, Yeah,

798
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: just not just not a shot at May you think

799
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: he's the guy? Yes or no? It's a great question.

800
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: It's a great question because I like, I like the

801
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: simplicity of it. Yeah, either you do or you don't.

802
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. Wow. Like when when I say

803
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: the guy, I don't mean that he's not an NFL quarterback.

804
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: He is. I think he is an NFL I don't

805
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: think he's I don't think you're gonna win with I

806
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: don't think you gonna win it all with him. Oh Okay,

807
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: that that when I say no, that's what I'm talking about.

808
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: Is he a guy that can win you a championship? Yeah?

809
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't. Well, he won't be the reason anyway, but

810
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I don't think. I don't

811
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: care as long he says if he's the Quarterback Championship team.

812
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I mean, if you're asking me right now,

813
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: I like the way that that Eldred put that very

814
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: simple yes or no. Yep, I'm gonna say no. All right,

815
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: thanks Eldred. All right, we have it on record. I

816
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: would like to see him in year two. I mean,

817
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: if you ask me now, it's a numb listen. I

818
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: mean I do. I do understand that there will be

819
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: jumps in his play. He's gonna get better, and you

820
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: got to play the game. When someone asked you a question,

821
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: you play the game and you give him. But nobody knows.

822
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: Nobody knows. Bill Belichick doesn't know. Yeah, I mean that

823
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: one's probably going to come back and haunt me because

824
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, you know where I work and what we do.

825
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: But if you're asking me right now, yeah, that's my answer.

826
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: If you ask me right now, if he's going to

827
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: be the quarterback for more than five years, I would

828
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: say no too, Like I just well, let's you know,

829
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: and this is you know, and I might get killed

830
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: for this too. But on one of your shows, they

831
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: did the redraft and they redrafted like not just the

832
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: Sears quarterback batch, but they merged it with like the

833
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: last two or three years, right, and so they redid it.

834
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: I need some refreshing them. Yeah, and and so Mac

835
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: on this one person's draft, I don't even know who

836
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: these fill in hosts were, but on this one person's draft,

837
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: Burrow was number one. Okay, so he's three years ago,

838
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: but I know he lost last year because of the injury. No,

839
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: it was last year. Him and Herbert were rookies last year.

840
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Speaker 1: now great moments in history. You know when we go

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Speaker 1: to Ford Field to play the Lions and they do

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Speaker 1: that free game shows that kid who was like in

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Speaker 1: his early thirties maybe at most most, and he's like, Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Ford Field. We're gonna be talking about it

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Speaker 1: to try it Lions. Now we're gonna be talking about

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Speaker 1: the food trial. Ye Like, why do they do that?

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Speaker 1: Why did that become a thing? I can't's always been

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Speaker 1: that way, Hi, everybody's Beth Mullins into but it's Angelo's

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Speaker 1: charger room. But let's go to bed and it's more

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Speaker 1: than mean. It looks a little cold today. That was

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Speaker 1: like a mix, Harry Carry. I wouldn't pay you one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars to do the rest of the show just

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Speaker 1: like that. That's another great moment from all Right, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Patriots on Filter five five past five hundred

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Speaker 1: is the ACE ticket outline web radio at Patriots dot

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Speaker 1: com is the email address. Brandon writes in all I

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00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: could think about when Eldred said he played Madden Enfranchise

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00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: Mode was that his team would be twenty two. Randy

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00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: Mosses and the only play in his playbook would be

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00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: a Hail Mary. That sounds about right. I bet you,

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Speaker 1: I bet you one. Though. Um I was laughing just

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Speaker 1: listening to that clip with Megan. Megan was really big

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00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: on the announcers room. She loves the whole industry. Yeah,

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00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: loves plugged in. Rick writes in it really me way

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00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: how much time has flown by that. Brad Johnson, Jeff Hostetler,

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00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: and Mark Rippon probably couldn't lead their teams to a title.

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00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: The league really has changed that much, hasn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Trent Doper. I throw him in there too,

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Speaker 1: Rick and Louisville. If Nick Foles can lead his team

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Speaker 1: to a championship, I'm not ready to say Mac can,

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Speaker 1: at least not yet. He didn't. I don't confuse winning

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Speaker 1: a game as a backup quarterback with leading your team.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hostetler didn't lead his team to a super bright

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles didn't lead his team. Those two guys are

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Speaker 1: very similar. Actually, the starters played most of the season

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Speaker 1: and then they got hurt. Like there's no chance that

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Speaker 1: the Giants would have gone thirteen and three with Jeff

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Speaker 1: Hostetler for the whole year. To me, the definition of

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Speaker 1: the guy. If you're asking me, do I think Mac

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Speaker 1: can be the guy? He has to be the quarterback

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Speaker 1: of the Patriots for you know, more than just this

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Speaker 1: first contract and on one of the years they win

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Speaker 1: a championship. To me, that's whether he's the reason why

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Speaker 1: or not. If he can do that, he's the guy.

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Speaker 1: I would even take out the need to win a title.

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Speaker 1: I would just say competitive to win a title. If

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Speaker 1: you're if you're getting a second contract, then you Obviously

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00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: the coaches obviously deemed him the guy, right like if

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Speaker 1: they if they re up him, say in year four,

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Speaker 1: and he's the quarterback for eight nine years, they thought

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Speaker 1: he was the guy. They thought he was the guy.

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Speaker 1: Spiin Fresno Love Big East question Happy Paul had the

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Speaker 1: big basketballs to answer it, honestly, but we didn't get

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Speaker 1: everyone else's responses. So fred Eric, Mike, Matt Matt is

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Speaker 1: Mac the guy? Well, Elder didn't ask us, He only

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Speaker 1: asked Paul. Yeah, there's probably a reason for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hesitantly say, yes, Mac will become good enough for

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Speaker 1: us to win a title with him. He looks good

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Speaker 1: for a rookie and its biggest flaws seem based in

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Speaker 1: skills that can be developed, such as sensing, adjusting to

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Speaker 1: the pass rush, red zone passing, pre snap adjustments. The

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Speaker 1: question is whether those improvements, assuming they occur, will matter

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Speaker 1: more than what he can't change, such as arm strength,

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Speaker 1: lack of mobility. An X factor is his mental toughness,

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Speaker 1: which I don't have a good beat on yet. Do

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Speaker 1: you think he's mentally tough. I think he is pretty

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: tough physically and mentally. Yeah, I think you're under selling

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Speaker 1: his biggest weaknesses though, like strength, like your skill is

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00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: as big as weakness. Well, he doesn't. He doesn't run well,

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00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: and he doesn't throw it well like he's accurate, but

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a great arm. Here's the thing about

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Speaker 1: the mental toughness part of it. We know physically like

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00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: he's taking big hits and bounce back, but that's not

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. When in his career, whether it's

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Speaker 1: high school or college, has he had to deal with

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Speaker 1: real adversity. I don't know the answer to that. I

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00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. I mean, certainly not

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00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: an Alabama now other than not being able to start,

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Speaker 1: but this flast year, I'm talking about see. I count

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Speaker 1: toughness as taking a hit and staying in there and

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Speaker 1: coming back. And I count mental toughness as the ability

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Speaker 1: to put bad plays behind you. I've seen that, Yep,

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Speaker 1: I've seen evidence of that. I'm not telling you that

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01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: he's there's no questions about him in those regards, but

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Speaker 1: I've seen him show the ability to put negative stuff

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Speaker 1: behind him quickly and bounce back. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: sign of mental to Yeah, so I think he can

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Speaker 1: be the guy. And again, everyone's definition of the guy

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01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: is different. So that's why I wanted to define what

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Speaker 1: mine is. And I also like that Paul. Paul added

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Speaker 1: that give him another year, like, give him an offseason

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Speaker 1: in the program, Like it's, well, that's what I want

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Speaker 1: to see, ye. Yet the things that I have concerns

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Speaker 1: about I think can improve with um, you know, additional

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Speaker 1: strength and nutrition and and whatnot. The things I mock, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, he'll get better at the NFL level. There's

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01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: there's there's some truth to that. Yeah, Like you get

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Speaker 1: into program and you're taking care of yourself at a

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Speaker 1: different level for a year, Right, Let's see what it

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Speaker 1: looks like after he is able to do that and

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Speaker 1: if I looked next year and I was like, wow, Ye,

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Speaker 1: that fifteen yard out that was consistently getting threatened to

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Speaker 1: be picked off last year is getting there faster, right?

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Speaker 1: Good that could happen. I just wonder that, like this,

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Speaker 1: the same people who were saying, oh, Trevor Lawrence isn't

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01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: that good? Would they have said the same thing about

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning in his first year? Of course they would.

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Speaker 1: And that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Now, Peyton Manning had Bill Polian,

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Speaker 1: and as much as I hate Bill Polian, he built

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Speaker 1: a team. He was a good Peyton Manning. Yeah, and

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01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: it worked, you know. I mean he built teams in

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01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: three different places, right, And so you need that. I

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: don't care who your quarterback is, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodd.

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01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: You need pieces, you know. So, Anthony writes inspiration listening

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: while working the streets, slinging mail in twenty degree cold,

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01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: and may well, thank you, thank you for doing that

1185
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: got you clarified while you were working the streets. Yeah,

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01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: all this talk about Madden made me think of a

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: question for all of you guys. Given the exact same

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Speaker 1: situation from two thousand and one Super Bowl tie game

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one Super Bowl versus Tampa Bay and

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Speaker 1: Brady with less than two minutes left, no timeouts. Does

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Speaker 1: Bill push the ball with Mac to try to get

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Speaker 1: Folk into field goal range like he did with Brady

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Speaker 1: or does he run a draw and roll the clock

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Speaker 1: and head to the coin toss. I feel like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't get aggressive and sits on the ball and plays

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Speaker 1: for ot. Well, here's the thing about that question. If

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Speaker 1: Mac is in the Super Bowl, he will have done

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Speaker 1: things to get to the Super Bowl. So maybe the

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Speaker 1: confidence level that you're you know, implying changes because we're

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Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. We won some big games in

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Speaker 1: order to get there, and he showed me that he

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Speaker 1: can push the ball down. For me, it's different. It's

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Speaker 1: I think that Bill's rationale and most of these situations

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01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: has dealt with what's gone on in that specific game.

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Speaker 1: I think he talked about after the Tampa one, you

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Speaker 1: know we hadn't we hadn't converted them. I think they

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Speaker 1: were three for thirteen on third down in that game. Yea,

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Speaker 1: there were one for ten on Sunday. Yes, third down.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you're not you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: not sustaining offense for an entire game and you're in

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01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: a bad situation where you know you're on what was it,

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Speaker 1: You're on seventeen yard line with no time outs and

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Speaker 1: I mean it's twenty left. Yeah, maybe he goes conservative. Yeah,

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01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: but if if it was a game that they were

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Speaker 1: playing really well offensively, and I think you would he

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Speaker 1: would go for But don't you think it's reasonable to

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01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: think that if you get to the super Bowl, those

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 1: numbers will have have to have improved against some really

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Speaker 1: good teams. But like, like what I'm saying is they

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Speaker 1: were nine and four. Yeah, and he was conservative, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I mean against But but you know, I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: if you're one for ten in the players, you're gonna lose,

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get to the super Bowl. Well, but

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Speaker 1: what if your defense is the reason why you won

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Speaker 1: those games? Okay? Right? You know, and largely the defense

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01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: was a bigger part of the reason why the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one Patriots one. You know, Brady wasn't always

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Speaker 1: great in those games, but I do think he was

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Speaker 1: always great when he had to be right, and he

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01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: showed that, and I think he showed the ability to

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Speaker 1: come from behind. So maybe if they if they had

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01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 1: done better offensively the last two games. The next time

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Speaker 1: he's in a spot like that, maybe Bill says, you

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: know what, he can do this, He's done it before,

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Speaker 1: but so far he hasn't really done that. They haven't

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Speaker 1: really come from behind. Yeah. The closest example I think

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Speaker 1: we might have against a good team is Dallas when

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Speaker 1: he threw that pass. Now it was a one play,

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01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: big play, they scored, but they threw the ball on

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01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: the first pass there, right, And so that was another

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01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: one that after the game was tied and overtime, it's

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Speaker 1: fourth and three, and he he punts because he didn't

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: have that kind of faith in the offense and the

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: way that they were converting a stick and outline. Let's

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01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: go to Patty and agawam, what's up? Patty's up? Guys? Hey? Um,

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Speaker 1: So I got to make a comment about what Paul

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01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: said yesterday about that UM producer and Ei. He said

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't trade Max right up for Patrick mahomes Um.

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Speaker 1: That's it's completely preposterous to me. Like mahomes Is was,

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01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: like Brady was when he was here, and like Manning,

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01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's on his team. You got to

1252
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: give them like the odds on favorite almost every preseason

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Speaker 1: that they're going to get to the super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: possibly win it. And that's I don't know, it's just

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01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: a ridiculous statement. And just a question on Max for

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Speaker 1: you guys as we're talking Mack a little bit, do

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: you think that his arm strength can't improve? And I

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01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: don't mean like pushing the ball further downfield, I mean

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: just like maybe getting the ball. Yeah, I think I

1260
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: think he can get stronger. Yes, I don't think he is, uh.

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean I know what. We kind of talked about

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01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: this a lot during the spring and we kind of

1263
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,479
Speaker 1: poked five. I don't think he has an NFL body,

1264
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: and I think you can develop that. Yeah. And you

1265
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: know a lot of people, um, you know, there's all

1266
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: different sides of the story with Tom Brady coming out

1267
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: of college. Oh he has a strong Army doesn't have

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01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: a He had he had a pretty strong arm, you know,

1269
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: because they went back and they looked at it was strong.

1270
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: But I think he got it stronger. He did, and

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01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: I think he improved. I think he improved his mechanics, yeah,

1272
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: and that made his the delivery better, more efficient and

1273
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: got the ball there fast. And that's an area where

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01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: Matt can potentially improve. Yea, I think that's something that

1275
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: can be improved. Yes, And I think he's got the

1276
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: mentality to put the work in to do that. I think.

1277
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see, we'll see. When you're done,

1278
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: you go home. Oh, I wouldn't have done it. I

1279
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: don't know why. What's that, Patty, But I was just

1280
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: gonna say that. That's all I got. All right, thanks

1281
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: for Alabama. John's in northern Maine. What's up, John? Twenty

1282
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: degrees up there? Joe? Oh, Joe, Yeah, Matt wrote John.

1283
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for this, but I gotta just comment on

1284
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: Fred's comment on Bill Polly and building the team for

1285
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Yep. Um. I always think we have to

1286
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: remember though, that uh Bill Pollian could have paid Marshall

1287
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: Falk and traded his draft pick to Ditka in New

1288
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: Orleans for his entire draft and built a defense. So um,

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: I gotta remember that was the year that um Dica

1290
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: traded for Ricky Williams whole draft thing. Could have just

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01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: kept Marshall Falk and got all his draft picks. So

1292
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: I gotta just say something bad about the Colts. Oh yeah, Well,

1293
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: I hate Poland. Marshall Falk held out he was never

1294
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: going to play for the Colts again. Well, do you

1295
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: think it would have be paid him? No? Why do

1296
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: you hold he didn't want to play for the Colts anymore?

1297
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: Because why because he didn't think the Colts were good? Oh? Okay,

1298
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: And it's kind of the same thing as Barry Sanders.

1299
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't a money thing. You didn't want to play

1300
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: for the Lions anymore? All right, that was the Marshall

1301
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: Falk thing. Okay, still could trade that draft pick though,

1302
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: change James versus the whole cold draft. I don't remember

1303
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: any of that, Like why you wouldn't want to ed

1304
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: and Ja? Well no, I mean we can hate, we

1305
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: can hate Pollium because he's the Colts guy. We're all

1306
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: on board. I got it. I hate him. I think

1307
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: what Eric said isn't deniable. He built three ridiculously great

1308
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: franchise Bills, Colts, Panthers. I don't like the guy either.

1309
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: I saw his act live and in person. By the way,

1310
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: in those oh five oh six games, Yes, banging on

1311
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: the table hoping that duck flud he got his leg broken.

1312
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: It was one of the most unprofessional things I've ever seen.

1313
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: I don't like Bill. He said that I don't. I'm

1314
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: not lying. I know I don't like Bill. I'm not

1315
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: going to pretend that I like him, but I can't

1316
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: tell you that the Patriots and he does that on purpose. Yeah, yeah,

1317
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: I think he does too. I don't like the guy.

1318
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: I think he's an uptight. The Patriots had their time,

1319
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: it's our time, right, that's right. Yeah, you got your one. Yeah,

1320
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: yeah boo. But anyway, I'm calling in about whether or

1321
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: not Max the thing or the guy. I remember in

1322
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and one I emailed the show suggesting that

1323
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: they trade Brady and Keith led So, oh I remember

1324
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: that call. No, I don't, And Paul even liked that idea.

1325
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to say even I wouldn't have suggested that

1326
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: at the time. It was because, you know, there are

1327
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of backup quarterbacks like Scott Mitchell and John

1328
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 1: Freeze had gotten big contracts and never fulfilled them. But

1329
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: to me looking back right now, it kind of seems

1330
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: like the NFL's in a similar period where you have

1331
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: Alan and Buffalo, kind of like Manning in his fourth year.

1332
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: Right then Brady came in, Breeze came in, a couple

1333
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: more years, you got roth as Burger and and it

1334
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: seems to me like right now there is like this

1335
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 1: group of quarterbacks that's going to be you know, maybe

1336
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: the guy for the next ten years. Yeah, and that's

1337
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: a good thing. Oh absolutely, yeah. Yeah. And so it's

1338
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: interesting and um and the other thing on that is

1339
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: comparing this team to where that is. For me though

1340
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: it's the two thousand and one team is Before the

1341
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: Cleveland game, somebody called in and Paul said, like, you know,

1342
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, people didn't have a problem

1343
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 1: with them winning by being lucky, and I mean that

1344
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: was the thing. It was just this hopefulness that you know, however,

1345
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: this team could you know, scrape it together. And to me,

1346
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: that's where this team is now. You know, it's it's

1347
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: the same thing of you know, I have more faith

1348
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: in Bill Belichick now. But they got ahead of what

1349
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to be this year and

1350
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: now they're back to where they are, and it's that

1351
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: thing of like, you know, if they can just pull

1352
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: it together and build forward, I'm happy and I'm good

1353
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: for this year. And I still think there's there's just

1354
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of similarities to that that team,

1355
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: both in the rebuilding in the league and a lot

1356
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: of stuff like that. Yep, all right, thanks John. Listen,

1357
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: all those guys we talked about, all those young corps,

1358
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: I believe all of them can be their team's guy.

1359
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You mean Herbert and Lawrence

1360
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: Burrow and you know all of them, All of them

1361
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: can be. I don't like, none of them can be

1362
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but all of them can be their team's

1363
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: guy for the foreseeable future, you know, could be, could be. Yeah, Yeah,

1364
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: I think they all have it in them, you know. Now.

1365
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: A lot of it is the environment, like like you

1366
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: know what we're seeing in in Jacksonville. You know, like he,

1367
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Lawrence is the number an overall pick.

1368
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: His contract will never go down, you know, his his

1369
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: next contracts gonna be a whopper, right I would. So

1370
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: if you're Jacksonville and your shot con Or, if he's

1371
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: still the owner, then it's like, well, we suck, you know,

1372
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: so we might as well tear it down. So he

1373
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: could end up not being their guy just for that reason,

1374
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: for money reasons, well, because they suck so bad. I

1375
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: think that who they hire this offseason as their next

1376
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: head coach is going to It's critical. It's very very

1377
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: much critical, Like they need somebody that's going to yeah,

1378
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: be right for the quarterback. What I'm saying is there's

1379
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: other reasons why a quarterback turns out not to be

1380
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: a team's guy other than his own performance. Yeah, you know, sure,

1381
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: but I think all of those guys, you know, again,

1382
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 1: in my definition of the guy can be their guy. Yeah,

1383
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: you know. Long Like if you get a decade roughly

1384
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: out of a guy and he takes you to the

1385
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: playoffs or even to a conference championship, maybe wins you

1386
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: a title, even take away the title. But if you

1387
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: play for a decade and you're in the playoffs, he's

1388
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: the guy. Like Andy Dalton was Cincinnati's guy. He was, Yeah,

1389
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is Minnesota's guy right now, right, I don't

1390
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: think you can win a title with him? Yeah, see

1391
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: yeah maybe not. Maybe That's why I think. And I'm

1392
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: not taking away your definition of the guy, like right,

1393
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: it's it's like why I go for two. It's my chart.

1394
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: I just you know, you don't tell me that I'm wrong. Yeah,

1395
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: your definition isn't wrong. That's your definition, right, I think

1396
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: you have to be in a Super Bowl. Yeah, Falk,

1397
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: By the way, I just kind of looked up because

1398
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I was remembering properly. He m,

1399
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: he was. He informed them that he was holding out.

1400
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: He had two years left on his deal. So I

1401
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: guess I don't know the answer to the question if

1402
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: they ripped up the two years, would he stay, Like

1403
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: would he really have done at Barry Sanders. But I

1404
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: think we've seen a lot of guys hold out and

1405
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: get traded, like Dion Branch you know here, you know,

1406
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: in others. So I don't know. I mean, maybe I

1407
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: maybe I'm taking it too far that I don't think

1408
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 1: Falk wanted to play for the Colts anymore because he

1409
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: didn't think the Colts were good, and I think that's

1410
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 1: why he was holding out. But then, you know, I

1411
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: think it's hard to criticize Polian for choosing Edwin James

1412
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 1: instead of Ricky Williams, right, like, who's better? Yeah, I

1413
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: don't even think it's close. Yeah, at the time, though

1414
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: Ricky Ricky Williams was great and period of time he

1415
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: didn't like an eighteen hundred yard year, I mean, for

1416
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: a short period of time. Ricky Williams was unbelievable when

1417
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: he went to Miami. Yeah, he had an unbelievable year

1418
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 1: in like, I don't know, oh two, I don't, I

1419
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: don't remember. But he was Ricky Williams was not a bust.

1420
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: He was good. Obviously, he had all the trouble with

1421
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: marijuana and everything and that ended up derailing his career.

1422
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 1: But but Edwin James was all. You know, he's a

1423
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: Hall of famer, is a Hall of famer. We were

1424
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: talking about the COVID rule changes and Bill and Bozeman

1425
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: writes in I agree with Paul's overall point about the

1426
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: late season rule changes being unfair to the teams that

1427
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: suffered from it previously. However, when there's a bad rule,

1428
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be allowed to persist any longer than necessary. Yeah,

1429
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: that's why I did. I did throw that in there,

1430
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: like because of the unprecedented nature, right, and I do.

1431
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: I said it last week. Why would you know if

1432
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: Kendrick and Cole Beasley test negative, why should only one

1433
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: of those guys be allowed to play? Why should two

1434
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: healthy players be held to different standards because of vaccination status?

1435
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: Ryan at Ottawa long time listener first time emailer, Thank you.

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01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: Quick question, what other young quarterbacks would you trade for Mac?

1437
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: One for one? The cutoff in this scenario is three

1438
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: years or less than the league for Joe Burrow and

1439
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I'm making that trade in a heartbeat. Other

1440
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: than them, though, I'm not sure I would trade Mac

1441
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 1: for any other young quarterback. What do you think? Can

1442
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 1: I have a list of them. I'm not clamoring for

1443
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: him to be traded. I have faith in Mac and

1444
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: a more than comfortable having him be our quarterback. I

1445
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 1: think he's shown enough that he should be given a

1446
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: couple of years before any final decision is made. That's

1447
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: fair enough. I agree with that. How about Herbert? He

1448
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: said Burrow and Herbert? Didn't he only two that he

1449
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: would He said Jess Burrow and Lawrence. He wouldn't trade

1450
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: him straight up for Herbert. Nope, I mean yeah, I

1451
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: would take Herbert. I mean, if you want to tell me,

1452
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: like to me the interesting questions. I don't have the

1453
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: whole list of all these young quarterbacks in front of me.

1454
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: Interesting questions to me would be like Baker Mayfield, Right,

1455
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: that's the like I don't think. I don't think that

1456
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: would trade Mac Jones straight up for me, I wouldn't

1457
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: need it. I would keep Mac Jones. I would his

1458
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: third years. Yeah, he's going into his fifth. It was

1459
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: a fifth year they got. They got to decide if

1460
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: they're going to keep him. They didn't. They didn't. He's

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01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: played four years, all right, because the Emailers thing was

1462
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: three years or less. Right now, I'm just saying young quarterbacks. Yeah,

1463
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: you know, I think I consider him a young quarter

1464
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 1: I would keep Mac. I consider him a young quarterback.

1465
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: I trade Mahomes, Yeah, yeah, I mean I wouldn't. I

1466
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: think he's he's going just three years. I don't have

1467
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: the list of entirety of the quarterbacks for just the

1468
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: last three years, but I think, I mean, I don't

1469
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: even think there's a conversation to be had about Jordan Love.

1470
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: Keep Mac Jones. Jordan. I hated Jordan Love coming out

1471
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: of college. We called him Jordan Lake. Remember, Um, how

1472
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: about Davis Mills. I keep Mac about the same. Yeah,

1473
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: he's our guy. Okay, So because you have him, Yeah,

1474
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: because I think I look at Davis Mills, I think

1475
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 1: he's he's taller, he's stronger, he's got a better arm.

1476
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't. I don't. I'm intrigued by

1477
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: Davis Mills, and I didn't like him coming out either.

1478
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: In full disclosure, Yeah, I didn't like him coming out.

1479
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 1: What about any of those guys that were drafted before

1480
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: Mac this year, Fields, Lance, Zach Wilson. I think I

1481
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 1: would probably take them all. I don't know. I don't

1482
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: know about Lance. I just sit there all have more talent. Yeah,

1483
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,480
Speaker 1: and with Bill Belichick as the coach and Josh Mchaneless

1484
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, I'll take my chances with the more

1485
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: talented guy. Yeah, that's why we want to. I don't know.

1486
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about Lance. That's the one guy I

1487
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: don't know because he didn't play at the same level.

1488
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: But justin Fields, I've seen enough he can play. I mean,

1489
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: that was our whole discussion during the draft, was like

1490
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 1: we liked the fact that they took a quarterback, remember,

1491
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: and then we were kind of underwhelmed by the fact

1492
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: that it was Mac at the time because we felt

1493
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: like the other guys taken we're a bit more talented. Yeah,

1494
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: I have questions about Zach Wilson, and I just I

1495
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: absolutely have no clue about Trey Lance. He has a

1496
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: played I think that justin fields with Bill Belichick and

1497
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, I think would be pretty good. Juan and

1498
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: Monterey Mexico says, I've always heard that why Bill is

1499
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: the best is because he adapts to what the league

1500
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: is currently doing. He's not stubborn on changing his ideas. However,

1501
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: in the last few years, when the league has gone

1502
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: towards smaller and faster linebackers, he stayed with the big

1503
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: and physicals such as high Tower and Bentley. I feel

1504
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons the defenses seem slow in

1505
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: the last few years, with the lack of adapting in

1506
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: that area. What are your thoughts. I don't think that's

1507
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: one of his I mean, I think he has a

1508
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 1: lot of strengths. I don't think that's one of his

1509
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: strengths is adapting to what the league is doing. I

1510
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:58,879
Speaker 1: think his strengths are game planning and identifying what players

1511
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 1: can do and what they're kids people of and putting

1512
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: him in positions to succeed exploiting other team's weaknesses. I

1513
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: think those are Bill Belichick's strengths. I think he has

1514
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: been sort of slow to adapt to some of those

1515
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: things over the years. And I think that's one example

1516
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: of it. Now. I think one of the reasons why

1517
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: they're running the ball so much more is because Bill

1518
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: is not adapting to what not necessarily the league, but

1519
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: like if they if they're going with all these small defenses,

1520
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: I think Bill is saying, we're gonna power up and

1521
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: run it at him, right, So I guess you could

1522
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: say that's adapting to the league. But again, that's game

1523
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: plan to me, not how you're you know what I mean,

1524
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: but you agree. It could also be that he's saying,

1525
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: no matter who our quarterback is, he's not gonna be

1526
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: ready to lead us for a few years, so I

1527
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: better have something else to fall back up. But I

1528
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: think you could even go back to twenty eighteen with

1529
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: Brady when they started running the ball a little bit

1530
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: more than they had, because I don't think he felt

1531
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: like it was their strength with the receivers that they had.

1532
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: I think they were missing weapons. Certainly Brady would tell

1533
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: you they were missing weapons, right. He pouted all through

1534
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: the nineteen season. Yea. And I think they decided to

1535
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: power up against some of these smaller linebacker. Of course,

1536
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: Sam is in North Carolina by way of Maryland. Um, so,

1537
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: a couple of things, then a game. Let the Bills

1538
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: have their fun. They lost to us consistently for twenty years.

1539
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: We ran many coaches and first quarterbacks out of there.

1540
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: Let them enjoy the moment. So here's the game. Only

1541
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: one word answers or number only no analysis games the

1542
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: first Buffalo game. If Brady were here, how many past

1543
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: attempts would he have had in that wint? Uh? Ten? Multiple?

1544
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: Assuming everything around him is the same? Steven? Since there

1545
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: and ten? Well, he said one word, So I just

1546
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: said stuck with Since Patriots went some time without a

1547
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 1: Sunday game because of the recent schedule, when is the

1548
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: next weekend they won't play football? January twenty weekend of January? Yeah,

1549
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: oh okay, so they went out playoff game. No, they're

1550
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: losing the playoffs? Yeah okay? Or so fourth weekend of

1551
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: January the night right. But but that's type of why

1552
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: I had. I had to just give a one word answer. Yeah.

1553
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: I definitely reserved the right to change my mind if

1554
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: I like, if they play Cleveland in a four or

1555
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: five game, I'll take the Patriots in Cleveland. What positions

1556
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: should be our first round draft pick? Uh? Next year? Cornerback. Um, yeah,

1557
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: I'll agree, corner Yeah, probably not playing well. Probably corner

1558
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: I said probably corner, um multiple words. But listen, if

1559
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: if there's a can't miss linebacker about sex, we'll talk

1560
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: to you in a minute. You weren't supposed to show

1561
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 1: your um appearance. Yes, we got to finish this game.

1562
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: Are we closer to playing like Jacksonville or Kansas City?

1563
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Kansas City? Yeah? Yeah? Are we closer to

1564
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: a really good team or a really bad Right? That's

1565
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: the question, right, You're closer to a really good doesn't

1566
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: That's a good question because a lot can happen in

1567
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: the offseason. No, I mean right now, I think sure, sure,

1568
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,799
Speaker 1: closer to Kansas City because you're gonna be a playoff

1569
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: team who will have a better second season with the Patriots.

1570
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: Mac Jones or Montre Stevenson or Kendrick Bourne, I know

1571
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: what I would answer, I will wow, I'll go Mac.

1572
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: Are you sure? No? That's why it took so long?

1573
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 1: Painful sighing in there. Well, because that's a tough questions,

1574
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 1: good questions. This is a good game, well done, all right?

1575
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: Deuce is back from practice, has returned from practice, has

1576
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: returned all right, all right, Well, a couple of COVID

1577
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: guys back. Good news. Ramandre Stevenson was back out there.

1578
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: I was, yes here, Durant and Harvey Longy. So a

1579
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: few guys back, Um, that's probably good news because the

1580
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:31,879
Speaker 1: COVID list now at six guys, which I'll just run down. Bentley,

1581
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: Jude On, Wise, Hoyer, King and Ucha are the are

1582
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: the six on the COVID the most likely have to

1583
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: miss the week of practice, which is an ideal. Yeah,

1584
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: so they could play in the game but would have

1585
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: to miss the weaker because they have to sit out

1586
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: five days. Yeah. Now I'm wondering, like how they found

1587
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: out because they stopped testing as of Monday unless someone

1588
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: was showing symptoms. So does that mean that they were

1589
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: showing symptoms? Yeah? Maybe, I think unless they self reported.

1590
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: Just yeah, you know, but do you think do you

1591
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: think the players? Do you think the players would insist

1592
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: on being tested? I don't. I don't know like some

1593
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: of them maybe. I mean, I don't know either. I'm

1594
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: just asking. Yeah, I just personal experience. My sister fully boosted,

1595
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: she got it test depositive, she's got symptoms, So I

1596
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: I you know, I think that this there is there

1597
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: is a segment of people I can I'm just wondering

1598
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: if it's wondering why they got tested. But some of them,

1599
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, it might not be vaccin. Laid up, unable

1600
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: to get out of bed, you know that's it's that bad. Yeah, yeah,

1601
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: real bad back pain. Never felt back pain like that before.

1602
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: So I hope she's doing better today. But yeah, their

1603
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: whole their whole family got it right now. So anyway,

1604
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: she happened to fall down last week. Yeah, but bled

1605
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: So was was absent along with Agalore as well. So no,

1606
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: Agalore was out last week with concussion. So those are

1607
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: the two you know, non COVID guys, at least as

1608
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: far as we know right now. With bled So, that

1609
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: was kind of a little bit of a surprise. Um so,

1610
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: but goods on Stevenson and the last he was last Friday, Calf.

1611
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: I think he had an injury. That's why last Friday,

1612
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: that's why he didn't know, that's why he didn't play

1613
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: all Yeah, full pads Friday night went stay, full pads,

1614
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: full pads. Small media contingent just uh yeah, the team, me,

1615
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: Mike Rias and Jim McBride. That was it. The fearsome threesome. Yeah,

1616
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: just us, but they're they're revert they're going back and forth.

1617
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: So today was heavy on cameras, light on beat reporters.

1618
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: Tomorrow will be light, heavy on beat reporters, light on cameras,

1619
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: and then and then um the same thing for Friday.

1620
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, small small squad and uh but some

1621
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: good news. I mean, I think Longie's kind of a

1622
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: little one. I mean, he hasn't played in a while.

1623
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: But if you're losing Bentley inside, I mean that might

1624
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: be an option to somebody to plug in there at

1625
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: least um if he's not able to return, but otherwise

1626
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: more more hooping and holleran though like last week, I

1627
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 1: mean I know that that obviously played no impact on

1628
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: the game, the fact that afterward they broke droles. They

1629
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: were yeah yeah, um, but it was happening again today,

1630
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 1: especially Tammy Harris, especially vocal Um. But you know, a

1631
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 1: little strange. You go from two weeks ago he had

1632
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks night you just got two. You just got

1633
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 1: macim and Jared Stidham did well. It's good sign because

1634
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I gave it some thought yesterday

1635
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: when I heard the news about Brian Hoyer that you

1636
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: know what would happen if Stidham right and were deemed yeah,

1637
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: close contacts and then they tested positive because I think

1638
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: right now a lot of people are going to test positive. Yeah,

1639
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: if you get tested, I think are going to be positive.

1640
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: So that that went through my mind. Mac Jones can't

1641
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: afford to be missing the whole week of practice. I

1642
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: would I would assume if he's healthy, Jacobe Myers would

1643
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: be the emergency quarterback if all of that happened, you know,

1644
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: if all that quarterbacks got I would assume they'd signed

1645
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: some Yeah, Jake do Lagalla guy they brings somebody in

1646
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: talking about him on the radio yesterday. I mean, just

1647
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: the guy that at least has some experience in the

1648
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: sis Tigers. He's on the street because he is available. Yeah,

1649
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: I think Felger brought him up at some point over

1650
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: the course of the year, like talking about quarters. Just

1651
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: bring Dola Galla, Like have you ever seen him throw

1652
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: a pass before? I don't know, but yeah, maybe Jared

1653
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: said him, maybe it gets a chance, but hopefully not.

1654
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: Matt out there, he looks fine, it's got his glove on. Still.

1655
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: I feel good, yea and stuff. And stuff. Yeah, all right,

1656
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: Uh excuse me, you got a cough button there? What

1657
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: were the twelve grousing at it at all? No, No,

1658
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: we were just kind of working out a plan of

1659
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: of how to how to go about it, the three

1660
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: of us in our and our you know, three guys,

1661
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: two bears of binoculars. Right, So was it one of you? Like?

1662
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: So really Matt Jones wasn't there? They just as one

1663
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: of you, like the guy that's responsible for getting the

1664
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: word out and who was there? Yeah, yeah, we did. Um,

1665
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: we did a little bit of an embargo since there's

1666
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: only a few of us allowed to be there. So

1667
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: we so we sent that Matt Mike send it out

1668
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: to all the Beat reporters what the attendance was. And

1669
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: then we we were you know, said we'd all post

1670
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: it one oh five. So okay, you know, working together

1671
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: was a team nice and yeah, we'll see. I just

1672
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: interested out goes Frida because Friday is supposed to be

1673
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: the day where they have a bunch of Beat writers,

1674
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 1: but nobody ever comes on Friday. It's always usually just

1675
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: three or four of us on Friday anyway, So it

1676
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: might be a tiny, tiny crew one, it might be

1677
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: a one man show, Deuce. I'm wondering what the crowd's

1678
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: gonna be like on Sunday. Yeah, like fans. Yeah, you know,

1679
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: it's Jacksonville. I agree with you. Tickets available, Oh yeah,

1680
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: I was looking, you know, so I'm just wondering about that. Yeah,

1681
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: maybe they were Christmas gifts, you know, maybe people gave

1682
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: them away, and yeah, maybe it'll be stronger than you think.

1683
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: You know, Listen, this is the first game that you've

1684
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: ever attended. Like you're gonna go, right, if you've got

1685
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: tickets for Christmas or something, you know, like you're gonna

1686
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: go to the games. Good point, it's a good point.

1687
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: It would be a good game to do. I gonna

1688
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: watch the Patriots roll. Yeah, you know, but I mean

1689
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: season ticket holders may have used that game and said, yeah,

1690
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give these for a Christmas gift, and if

1691
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 1: you gotta for a gift, you'd go yeah, sure, yep,

1692
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: good times, all right. Five five hundred is the eight

1693
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 1: ticket Hut web radio at Patriots dot com as email

1694
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: address intermactions uh limited limited. We're you know, a little

1695
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: little uh scattered, trying to get through everybody, but watch

1696
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: still wearing the glove. Still wearing the glove, had full

1697
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: pads on, had his knee brace on on the outside. Um, yeah,

1698
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get some Mac the gloves on. Still

1699
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:23,799
Speaker 1: Yah was still wearing was up. I hear that jacket.

1700
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: He had a big winner jacket. Yeah, I think still

1701
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: under the weather. Like somebody said to me, Fred, I

1702
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: was listening to the postgame show, and you seem very

1703
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: worried about Bill's health. I'm like, yeah, I am, hear

1704
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking. Well, usually we kind of make make light

1705
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 1: of it, but in this day and age, you can't. Yeah, right,

1706
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 1: because what if he sounds like that and he has

1707
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: has right right? Well, you see Robert Salo was out,

1708
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: he just came back. But iveryan you know, I I'm

1709
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: surprised there hasn't been more speculation about what would happen

1710
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: if if Bill had to miss last week. You must

1711
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: have missed it. I didn't, had it not us I

1712
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: brought to see I think Bill likes to go with that.

1713
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: Don't like to disrupt as much as I possibly can avoid.

1714
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Y go with Patricia and let Mac continue to work

1715
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: with Josh right and keep that focused on the offense

1716
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: as is. I think that's important. Yeah, you know, because

1717
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: if you're I brought them to a flutter with that.

1718
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 1: They were like, no, I'm like, that's not bad. That's

1719
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: not a bad idea. You know, in terms of track

1720
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: record as head coaches, Josh McDaniels Matt Patricia, they're the same.

1721
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: You want to tell me that Josh has been a

1722
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: far more successful coordinator. I would agree. I don't think

1723
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: that Matt Patricia's defenses were great. Josh Josh mcdenians has

1724
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,839
Speaker 1: had a lot of great offenses, but as head coaches,

1725
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: they both failed miserably. Yeah, so I don't know why it,

1726
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: like elicits such anger for people to like Matt Patricia

1727
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: has to step in for a game you're overseeing, all right,

1728
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: all right, I know, I know Bill was the coach,

1729
01:30:55,120 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're doing this week. Well you know, um,

1730
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: when you talk about mood, mccordy, um was uh No.

1731
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: Slater was asked by Buckley, ye, if everybody's bought in? Yeah, Mike,

1732
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 1: because he detected something in some of Slater's answers that

1733
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: might well we got a choice to make. That was

1734
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: like agree. We got into a conversation about this and

1735
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: other people did not agree. But what did you guys. Yeah, um,

1736
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: it did strike me a little bit of I guess

1737
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: I would just assume generally that there is no choice

1738
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: to make that you know exactly, you're just gonna do

1739
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: this week what you've always done. Um, So it did

1740
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: strike me a little bit. I mean, I think Steve

1741
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: did a good job of following up and really kind

1742
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: of asking him about it. But I also think that

1743
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: there's an element of Matthew Slater as a speaker that

1744
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of speaks in that way, and so I don't

1745
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: know if it meant as much to me though I

1746
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: don't know how we're going to choose. That's what kind

1747
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 1: of stuck out to me, was that, I think I

1748
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: think the phrases, the phrase that he used was we

1749
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: have a we have choices, and one of those choices

1750
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,560
Speaker 1: is to let it spiral out of control. That's not

1751
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: something I would ever think would come out of the

1752
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: mouth of a player on this team, letting things spiral

1753
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: out of control. And that's what you know, he that's

1754
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 1: anathemas to the way they do things around here. I

1755
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: was waiting, I thought, I thought, I thought I wanted

1756
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: to let that breathe. I'm sorry, my bad, um, but Yeah,

1757
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: Mike Reese asked Slater the original question, and he chose

1758
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: to answer it that way, which I did think was

1759
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: was interesting. And then I guess later on in that

1760
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: conference call at the end, Buckley said, is that you

1761
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 1: sort of suggesting to some sort of rift in the

1762
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 1: locker room? And yeah, I just took it at down.

1763
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: But we're hitting a time where it's adversity. You know,

1764
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? Are we gonna keep fighting? Well,

1765
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, cash in. I suppose if you're

1766
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: looking at the two games, that's what I take it too. Yeah,

1767
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: but I'm with Eric, like I think there's like like

1768
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: Matt's Matthew Slader can say, yeah, I know what I'm

1769
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: gonna do, but I don't know what everyone else is doing. Yea, yeah,

1770
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: but I would imagine he's one of the guys that

1771
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: stood up in the front of the room and gave

1772
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: that talk. Yeah, And I thought I thought there was

1773
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: also some telling comments from mccordy after the game about,

1774
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, some of the calls, and he actually said

1775
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: I could have made some adjustments that I didn't make, right,

1776
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: So he put it on himself. He spoke for himself,

1777
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: but I do wonder if there's maybe a little bit

1778
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: going on in there, and I wonder if there's a

1779
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: little I'm not rift is probably too strong a word,

1780
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: but I just wonder this is a different Much of

1781
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: the reason why I wasn't ready to say this is

1782
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: the super Bowl favorite was because the guys that were

1783
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl favorites are not here anymore. These are new

1784
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: players that the key figures are largely new people. Yeah,

1785
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: and that's like some of those things that you just

1786
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: automatically associate with Patriot success are not given absolutely. And

1787
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 1: you have a game like you just had where guy

1788
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere and has a career game against you,

1789
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: you know, so it's natural for players on any team

1790
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: to question the approach afterwards, like maybe we should have

1791
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: done something different, maybe even within the game, why why

1792
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: are we doing this? And then you add that you

1793
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: have Steve Belichick who was a young guy, Gerard Mayo,

1794
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 1: who's a young coach, you know, in terms of experience.

1795
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 1: You wonder if there's more questioning than there would be

1796
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: if it was like Dom Capers or Dean Pease who's

1797
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: been in the league forever, and you don't you don't

1798
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: question him. You just trust the process. You wonder if,

1799
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: you know, questions emerge, and I do wonder if that's

1800
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: what the if it was more than just players speak.

1801
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: I wonder if there was a reason behind some of

1802
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: the comments that's all. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not

1803
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:48,600
Speaker 1: making a big deal out of it, but I just

1804
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: some of those things that were said kind of made

1805
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 1: me take a step back at Yeah, it felt kind

1806
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: of like though that that was taken from six seven

1807
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: games left in the season. You haven't really even I'm

1808
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: close to clinching anything. Like, I just think this is

1809
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 1: the team that like just needs to bounce back. It's

1810
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: not a team that needs to like not go down

1811
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,759
Speaker 1: the dream in the last two games when you're probably

1812
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs anyway. So that's the only thing

1813
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: that strikes me a little bit weird, is that this

1814
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: is a team that still is most likely going to

1815
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs, I mean, and act like it.

1816
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's what it is. You know, you

1817
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: had two games in a row where big games, Yeah

1818
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: you didn't one game you just got dominated, you know,

1819
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 1: and you know, you didn't even show any life until

1820
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 1: the end. And then another game where you had everything

1821
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: in front of you against a heated rival, and again

1822
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: they showed up at the beginning and you didn't. And

1823
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions. I'm sure that people are

1824
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 1: asking themselves about themselves, but also my teammates, like who

1825
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 1: are these guys? Is you know? And I'm just throwing

1826
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: out names. Okay, So don't please don't think that I

1827
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 1: know anything, but like, you know, who is you know,

1828
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: match match yout on on the stretch? I don't. I'm

1829
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: I know who I am. I'm Devin mccordy. I've been

1830
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: he I won super Bowls, but I don't really I

1831
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: know Matt. I think he was you know, but I

1832
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: don't know you know, So I've never been with him

1833
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: on a team in this situation. So I'm sure there's

1834
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot of questions by point about like you can't say, well,

1835
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: this is what the Patriots due, because what the Patriots

1836
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 1: now do is lose games in December. Yeah at home.

1837
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: That that's what our most recent sample size. Would you say,

1838
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: four Gate four years, four years lost two games in

1839
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: December in a row. Um, so I know what happened.

1840
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 1: I was here, I know what happened between two thousand

1841
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 1: and one in two thousand nineteen when Brady was here.

1842
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: But it's different now because those guys aren't here. And

1843
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: to Fred's point, you know, I was kind of struck

1844
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: by Matthew Judon on that on that last touchdown to

1845
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox where it looked like he spent more time

1846
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: worrying about a fly then playing, you know, like, yeah,

1847
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: to the point where the you know, Zoe City, you know,

1848
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: the defense all stopped. Well, why because you think that

1849
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 1: you would cheat it in some way, like play the

1850
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: play the play out and they make it irrelevant, right, Yeah,

1851
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: you gotta play to the whistle. Yeah, you can't assume.

1852
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: You can't just stop what you're doing and assume what

1853
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 1: do you think on that play someone lined up in

1854
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: the neutral zone or oh like, which is not a

1855
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 1: play that you would stop playing. You don't stop playing, right, Yeah,

1856
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: even on like off sides calls, you gotta keep playing

1857
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: until you hear a whistle the ref comes in and

1858
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: it was waving his arms and you got to keep

1859
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: assuming that it's live a fumble protect act like it's

1860
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 1: live until they tell you act like it's live. It's

1861
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: just like an early part of the season, you had

1862
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: those kind of moments in these games Miami, you know

1863
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 1: where the defense could have made a play, and you know,

1864
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 1: talked a lot about they're not making the clutch plays,

1865
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 1: and now you're getting into the time year where it's

1866
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: kind of all clutch plays and you didn't get anything

1867
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: last week, and that, I think, to Paul's point is apted.

1868
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 1: It's just you know, you're figuring out who you are

1869
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: and for this team, what can they really hang their

1870
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 1: hat on right now? Like at least with the Brady teams,

1871
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 1: of course you can hang your hat. We got Tom Brady.

1872
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 1: But I think most teams by this point have something

1873
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: they feel good about or you know, something that hey,

1874
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 1: this is a string. We're gonna lean into this when

1875
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:24,799
Speaker 1: times get tough. And I don't know if this Patriots

1876
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 1: team has it right now. I think they've kind of

1877
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: taken turns like dropping the ball, so you know, literally

1878
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 1: and figured and I think that they will respond, you know,

1879
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: and they won't pack it it because even in the

1880
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: two games, because I think the two games, you know,

1881
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: we described in a little different way. I think they

1882
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: got dominated in those two games, just in different ways.

1883
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 1: In an Indy, I think it was they collapsed under

1884
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, a combination of Jonathan Taylor and a bunch

1885
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: of their own foolishness, you know, like jumping off side

1886
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: on a field goal and allowing a punt to get

1887
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 1: blocked for a touchdown, silly penalties. Against Buffalo, it was

1888
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: none of that. It was just the other team did

1889
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 1: exactly what it wanted to on offense for four entire quarters,

1890
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: to the tune of four hundred and thirty yards of

1891
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 1: offense and you know, seven trips into the red zone.

1892
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: You know. So I think you got dominated in different

1893
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 1: ways in both games. But even though that they got

1894
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: all played so badly in both games, they found a

1895
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: way to hang around give themselves a chance where if

1896
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: the other team didn't execute at the end, the Patriots

1897
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 1: could have gotten. So I don't think the Patriots will

1898
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 1: full tent and quit. I just saw these two games

1899
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 1: where they got really all played for the better part

1900
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: of the game, and yet in both games, the defenses

1901
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 1: on the field in a one scored game with a

1902
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:37,839
Speaker 1: chance to get the ball back, you know, failed both times.

1903
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 1: But still I think the fighting is what the Patriots

1904
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 1: are about. Yeah, they're not going to quit, but as

1905
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: you left, I was just gonna with two different the

1906
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 1: two different losses, it's kind of particularly disheartening because they

1907
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 1: lost two different ways. It was like, I feel a

1908
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 1: lot better if Mac threw four picks and that's why

1909
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 1: you got blown out by Buffalo. But you know, like

1910
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: in Matthew Slayter's mine and mccordy's and even High Tower,

1911
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: you know, fighting at the end isn't just getting out

1912
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 1: there and playing. It's stepping it up. Yeah, you know,

1913
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: and to set all the teams are beat up, we're

1914
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 1: all beat up. It's all we're all tired. But it's

1915
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 1: the you know, the guys that can step up, dig deep,

1916
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: dig deep and elevate. You know, it's not just not

1917
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: given up, it's taking it to the next level. Yeah,

1918
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, even just generally, I

1919
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: think you saw that energy from the Colts in the

1920
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: Bills the last two weeks. That was the December energy

1921
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: that you're kind of looking for right out of the game.

1922
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: And I think I think sometimes that energy comes from

1923
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: a confidence that you have in yourself and your teammates,

1924
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 1: in your plan and your coaches. Like it's a culmination

1925
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: of things like you feel like, I don't know, it's

1926
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 1: just it felt to me like when they went to Indianapolis,

1927
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 1: the Colts felt like, we're home, we've got a plan,

1928
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: we know we can beat this team, and we're gonna

1929
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: do it. The Bills felt like, we know we screwed

1930
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks ago, we know we've got

1931
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: a plan. We know we can go to foxborow when

1932
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: and they did it like there's a there's like a

1933
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: confidence that they had the additioned and that's where the energy.

1934
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: I think they played like they fed off what McDermott said.

1935
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: McDermott got a lot of heat for saying, it's not

1936
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: about what Bill Bellett, Yeah, it's about us. I think

1937
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 1: their team fed off at that. He said, this is

1938
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 1: about us, right, Like, it's not about what the other

1939
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: teams doing. If we do the same things we did

1940
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 1: on the Monday night came Yeah, but if we play

1941
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 1: the way we play, I don't think they can play

1942
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 1: with us, right. And that's like the other part of it, too,

1943
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 1: is just all this talk of slow starts and I

1944
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: just it feels like it's going to get in their

1945
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,600
Speaker 1: own head. And to some extent it felt like with

1946
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: that three and out, you know what worries me about

1947
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: that is like, you know, we talk about John Madden

1948
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 1: being genuine, you know, coming out fast and like having

1949
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: that emotion. It's got to be genuine, you know, like

1950
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: you don't. It's felt genuine a couple of times this

1951
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 1: year from the Patriots, but not yeah, consistently, Like it

1952
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: can't be like Den mccordy, you know, yeah, you know

1953
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: telling you to jump up a down. You have to

1954
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 1: like feel it, right, you know, right at that point.

1955
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 1: That's why I like this weekend, like just don't please,

1956
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 1: don't celebrate, just just take care of business. I don't

1957
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to see like yeah, maybe

1958
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: that's the but like like I'm not making out, like

1959
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Maybe the way to do it this

1960
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: week is don't run out, walk out like a single

1961
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 1: or double file or whatever. Business. We're just gonna take

1962
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 1: care of business today, you know, like no nonsense. We're

1963
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: just really are the anti fund and make fun of

1964
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: it like in a teasing way, but you really don't

1965
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: like fund and that becomes the new thing going into

1966
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. It's the Patriots. Don't run out, they

1967
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 1: walk out again holding hands military march style. We're about

1968
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: to go on a five or six game winning like

1969
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 1: stormtroopers walking out there exactly, Bill walks out like Vader. Yeah,

1970
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 1: the Emperor. Technically that would be that would be something

1971
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 1: that would be unique. Cody and Indiana writes in web

1972
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com. Do you think that the

1973
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: Patriots were just peeking at the wrong time or were

1974
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: they just beating up on lesser teams. I feel like

1975
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: the team has collectively run out of gas and I'm

1976
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: honestly really worried about the Miami game. Yesterday Deuce made

1977
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: an offhand comment about how they should still make the playoffs.

1978
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. After week one, I sent

1979
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: an email saying that loss would come back to haunt them,

1980
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: and I'm getting nervous that I was right. Well, just

1981
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 1: so you know, it has come back to haunt them,

1982
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: and then regardless of what happens, because it gave them

1983
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 1: a second loss in the division, and that's why Buffalo

1984
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 1: is in the driver's seat. Sure based on division record

1985
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 1: they have the time yep Alex is writing in and

1986
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 1: he's in Pentucket. You know where that is. Yes, I do.

1987
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: Still recovering from the atrocious Bills game. No defense, poor offense,

1988
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:49,520
Speaker 1: special teams just pedestrian. Here's my question. I have been pondering,

1989
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: does this team have the ability to have a chip

1990
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 1: on their shoulder and bounce back like the teams of old.

1991
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: It seems that in the past we had players and

1992
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 1: teams who thrived and coming back from losses or being

1993
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 1: mounted out. So do we think this team has the

1994
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: same fight or had the game change where these are

1995
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: different players who approach games differently. Not sure if this

1996
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: makes sense. Hope, I'm making my point clear. Thanks for

1997
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: all you do. I mean, Fred has them in the

1998
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, so it's hard to make the argument that

1999
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: they've been counted out, right. I just I just think

2000
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 1: I go back to the Houston game, and you know,

2001
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 1: I go back to the Indianapolis game. You lose two

2002
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: games earlier in the season, and it was like, oh,

2003
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,719
Speaker 1: get right game, and how'd they come out flat? Bad?

2004
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 1: They You thought Indie game was a wake up call?

2005
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 1: Like was that, Hey, the season is on the late,

2006
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 1: it's right there for the taking. Now how'd they come

2007
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: out flat? So I have my questions about it, and

2008
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 1: I think that's why I kind of gave the nod early,

2009
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: was because I haven't really seen this team I mean

2010
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 1: maybe the Houston game, you could say it, but I

2011
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: haven't really seen them in game overcome a lot of adversity,

2012
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: like it either kind of goes their way or it doesn't,

2013
01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 1: and they don't really have the playmakers right now to

2014
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: shift the course of the game. And that's I just

2015
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: didn't see it happening. I mean, of course you get

2016
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 1: maybe a lucky interception in that change, but overall, it's

2017
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 1: just it's you kind of know, in the first quarter.

2018
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: Did you see the game that they overcame the most

2019
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 1: adversity was Houston? Yeah, I mean that was the one

2020
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 1: that jumped to my mind and the only one that

2021
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 1: came from behind. Yeah. Yeah, I mean even the Chargers

2022
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 1: game they were losing the fourth quarter, but it was

2023
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: a pick. Yeah. I remember writing during that game like

2024
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: this is the lowest point in the season, Like during

2025
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 1: that game the second quarter or something like, well they

2026
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: down two nine, right, yeah, and they had that ridiculous punt. Yeah. Yeah.

2027
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 1: So like to Mike's point, right, you get gifted hit

2028
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: his own player in the back of the helmett, you

2029
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:42,560
Speaker 1: get gifted points, and that that sort of springboard you

2030
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 1: come back. Tyler and Nadick on last week's Thursday show,

2031
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Eric and Deuce were talking about a video I'd never

2032
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: seen before called New England the Patriots in week Oh yeah,

2033
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: I looked it up on YouTube. I gotta I gotta

2034
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: tell you it's gold. Then we really is. We're the

2035
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 1: best in the AFC being raised in the Chicago Land area.

2036
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: I thought the Super Bowl Shuffle was the only bit

2037
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 1: of football music to come out of the Oh no,

2038
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 1: I'd like to make a formal regress to have Deuce

2039
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: be in charge of doing a reboot that song for

2040
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 1: the next Patriots Super Bowl run. I am and I

2041
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 1: gotta ask Paul to maybe felgern Mas will sing a

2042
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 1: song to get up the Patriots hyped up for the playoffs.

2043
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure Tony Mas doing a verse. I think that

2044
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 1: might be a heavy lift. It was the worst song ever.

2045
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm so excited that somebody founded based on us. Chatbout

2046
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: it because thanks for the oranges, Bradley, New England the

2047
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Patriots and we what does me? It's what does that mean?

2048
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, because we were a team. It's not

2049
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: about us. I'm gonna go to Eric on that's a

2050
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: proper grammars and we know we I mean, unless that's

2051
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: the beginning of a sentence New England. The Patriots to

2052
01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 1: the Bowl is in there til I'm awful awful. Um,

2053
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: let's go to the ace ticket outline. Brian's in Indiana.

2054
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: What's up, Brian? Hey, what's up? Fellas? Not doing any

2055
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 1: yardwork out there, are you? Of course not because it's

2056
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 1: no snow and sunshine. So now in the house. Now

2057
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 1: you're done right, Yeah, I got it all done, so

2058
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 1: it's all good. Hey. What you are just talking about

2059
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 1: about this is is just playing out the way I

2060
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,799
Speaker 1: feared and not having a defeat its attitude and thinking

2061
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: we got no chance. Now I know we still, you know,

2062
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: pretty much control our own destiny as far as actually

2063
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: making the playoffs. But I didn't want it to come

2064
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 1: down to Miami last game of the season, and of course,

2065
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: you know, we lost the first game. You think out

2066
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: about all of these wild scenarios, you get way ahead

2067
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 1: of your stuff, but I and I kind of passed

2068
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 1: this game in the back of my man the whole time.

2069
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: I just hate that you had to come down to this.

2070
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 1: It's like even with the if I'm not mistaken b

2071
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and depending on what shapes out with the other teams,

2072
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 1: uh Sancy and uh Sandy la whoever we can. Is

2073
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: it possible if we lose the Miami game we out

2074
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Period? It's unlikely. There is a chance. There's

2075
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 1: a chance. If the Raiders in Dolphins went out, Um,

2076
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 1: you're out of the playoffs. Even if we be b

2077
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and lose to Miami, we out, right. Yeah, if

2078
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: the Raiders ends Miami win both games, right, you're out.

2079
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: They have to win out. Yeah, but so the Raiders

2080
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: play at Indy and Miami plays at Tennessee. Right, if

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01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 1: either one of those two teams loses, then the win

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Speaker 1: over Jacksonville will clinch a playoff breath for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: And it ain't even amazing. I say this last point.

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Speaker 1: I let y'all go. It's amazing in the NFL of

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01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: a way, it's things shakes out. One or two loss

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01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: and you go from totally controlling your own destiny and

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01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: driver seat for first place in the whole conference. Yeah,

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01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:16,759
Speaker 1: being at the mercy of the teams needing help handling business.

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01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy, it is, and that's what they want.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Yep, yep, all right, Brian, thank you, Uh

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Speaker 1: let's go down, Eddie, Eddie and Florida. If there is

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01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: one like minor thing and remote of the chances it

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01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 1: is Buffalo could lose both games and then that could

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Speaker 1: change things. But we could they win one of the

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Speaker 1: Falcons and Jets Atlanta and the Jets. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I would assume they'd win at least one of those.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Eddie? Hey guys, So obviously the defense is

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01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: underperforming in a big, big way. They couldn't stop the

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Speaker 1: Nosby the other day. But on offense, if you have

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Speaker 1: five skill players on offense and two of them are

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Speaker 1: to kill Harry and john Us Smith, you've pretty deep trouble.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I got. Oh wow, okay, Eddie, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean what did What did you think about Josh

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01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 1: McDaniel saying he needs to get the figure out how

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Speaker 1: to get the ball to Smith more. It's all on him.

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01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: It's nice of him. Yeah, I think it's I think

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01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 1: it's a coach taking one for the team. I just

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Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately, I think he's being used as a

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Speaker 1: blocking tight end. He's not a great blocker, um, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he really runs good routes. I think

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Speaker 1: everything they've given him is like design. I think Josh

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Speaker 1: is doing everything he can. I mean, I think they

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01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 1: have at least probably two plays or three plays in

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01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 1: the plan every week to like this is specifically to

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Speaker 1: do it. Oh yeah, how much more can he do? With?

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Speaker 1: Two things that I have a problem with. Number one

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Speaker 1: is the in this particular game, the insistence and of

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Speaker 1: nikkil Harry. I don't understand it. You know, he got

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Speaker 1: the most snaps. He got six targets, which may or

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Speaker 1: may not have been the most. Yeah, well Myers had

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01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 1: eight um so other than that, two catches for six

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01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: yards I mean on six targets, both on screens. I

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01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: don't understand that. I don't understand why he had to

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Speaker 1: play such a large role, but that's what they thought,

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01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 1: you know whatever. The second part is when you sign

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01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 1: two tight ends and you sort of give him the

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01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 1: kind of money to make people think that you've signed

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01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 1: two elite tight ends, and those both of those guys

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01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: end up doing basically what they've done in their careers.

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01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 1: It looks like a disaster, But it's not like I

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01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 1: think Henry's been better than Smith. I don't think anybody

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01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 1: would argue, but they sort of are what they are.

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Speaker 1: Like Smith's career high is forty one catches, Like he's

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01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 1: gonna end up with about thirty one, you know, thirty two,

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01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna end up within striking distance of the

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Speaker 1: best season he's ever had. And people are like, that's it.

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01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: The other guy, I can't block a lick. He's caught

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Speaker 1: nine touchdowns, So that's good. I mean, that's what we wanted.

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't blame Hunter, Henry and John hu

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01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 1: Smith for this, like I think that well, he didn't

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01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: mention Henry, he mentioned no, he Harry, No, I knows.

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Speaker 1: Making a larger point here. But the larger point is,

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01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 1: these are the guys that you had all you miss

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Speaker 1: an Agalore the other day. Yeah, these are the guys

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01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: that played all year. You you plugged in Harry for Agalore.

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01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: And I think that you think that you got better

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01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 1: weapons than you did, and then when you play against

2148
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 1: good teams and your weapons don't look good enough. It's

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01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 1: the weapons, now, I think it is the weapons. I

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01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 1: don't think they're good enough. But this is what you got.

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01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: You put big money into Boone, Agalore, Smith and Henry

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01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: that those guys are gonna be here right. You know

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01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 1: that's going to be the core of your weapons going forward. Yeah,

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01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: Like you can't. You can't ask Bill to go out

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01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: and spend sixty million on a wide receiver next year,

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01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: right unless he takes one in the first round, like

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01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: some good. I mean, I didn't say you couldn't draft yet.

2158
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: I said he's not gonna put sixty million into a

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01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver. No, but I think I don't think they're

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01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:09,839
Speaker 1: done with that position. Claire writes in from West Midland's UK. Hello, everyone,

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01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: hellover in I think I'm a bit of a homer

2162
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: Like Fred. I read that the Bills thing as the

2163
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: Patriots are that awesome that it's an achievement to even

2164
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: beat them. It was irritating in a way, But then again,

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Speaker 1: I have visceral hatred of the Bills. Yeah, I think

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01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 1: that's what it was. I think they were saying, like

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01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 1: this is like no one else has been able to

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01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 1: do this, and that's how hard it, right, And don't

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01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:32,560
Speaker 1: think any of the other thirty one teams wouldn't do

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01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 1: the same thing, including this one. Did you see what

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01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? You? Okay, what do you think about it?

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01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 1: I just think it's stupid, Yeah, you're gonna announce it

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01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 1: on social media though, Like I mean, I know everything.

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01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 1: It was in the game. I know. That's the only

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01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 1: reason why you think I follow the bills. Social media

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01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:54,759
Speaker 1: the only reason why I knew about it. About the announcement,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I saw the tweet. I saw them

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01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 1: tweeted out like it was, you know, with a graphic,

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01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 1: a graphic, and you should, like you're in charge, you

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01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 1: should abolish social media. We don't social media. We don't

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01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 1: we do No, we don't, we don't do that. He's

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01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 1: like that. I agree with the larger point. I think

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01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:12,799
Speaker 1: it's stupid. Yeah, the larger point is I think it's stupid.

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01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 1: But I think it's all stupid, not just the things

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01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 1: that other teams do. If I don't get the chance

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01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 1: of email again, wishing everyone a happy New Year, New Year,

2187
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: you too, they celebrate happy New Years. They really are

2188
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 1: the two least fun people I've ever met in my life.

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01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Yeah, New Year happens everywhere, don't have not

2190
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 1: just in the United STATENFL Paul fun Lea, It's true.

2191
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Glanvill set up Yeah, just the way I like

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01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 1: he said, not for long didn't he we're seeing no

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01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 1: fun league as well? I thought he. I thought he

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01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 1: did both. He definitely said not for long. Yeah, that

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01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: was definite. That was the clip in the commercials. Right,

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01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 1: you're right about that. I might be misremembering Charlie's just

2197
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 1: often Charlie's in Virginia. Despite the loss, always a fun

2198
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: weekend up at Foxborough was only my first or second

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01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 1: regular season game in person since Week seventeen of OH seven.

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01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: Needless is say different vibe leaving the stadium from the

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Speaker 1: Bills game. I hate the delayed rushers against a mobile

2202
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 1: quarterback with an arm. It seems to me that it

2203
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: lets the coverage get sucked down the field, then the

2204
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 1: rusher comes and it's an easy scramble or rollout. Makes

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01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 1: much more sense to send rushers right at the snap

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01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,879
Speaker 1: against Alan, in my opinion, make him make quick decisions

2207
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 1: to force and Eric, don't let him roll out. Oh. Also,

2208
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be surprised by the defense. They look slow

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01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 1: and old beginning of the season. They still do. How

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01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 1: many years have we watched them get diced by underneath

2211
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 1: throws to bats running by our linebackers. Yep, that was

2212
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 1: that was a plan and That's why I would be

2213
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 1: curious if they do. If they were to go to

2214
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo for a rematch and play him in the playoffs,

2215
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 1: what do they what do they do different? Do they

2216
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 1: kind of just go for broke and send guys after.

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01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: It's just it's frustrating for me when you rewatch the

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01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 1: game and you see Matthew chewed on. I think I

2219
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 1: said they like pulling up, you know, like he could.

2220
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 1: It's a guy, and then he's just stands there and

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01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 1: he's just kind of watching and holding his tackle and

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01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I got to make sure Johnston get out. Like it's

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01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 1: just not what they well, well, I just I don't

2224
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: think it's what they said. Johnson was sort of given

2225
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 1: an explanation this morning, and I don't know if he

2226
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: really knows what he's talking about, but he's saying a

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01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 1: lot of the Patriots style is for the linebackers or

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01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: whoever to chip first and then rush, and that delays

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01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 1: the rush, you know, and like he thinks that maybe

2230
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 1: sometimes they should just get after. The High Tower was

2231
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: asked about that today, you know, about you know, doing

2232
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 1: a better job of holding up the receivers coming out

2233
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: and talked about how it's not as easy as it looks. No,

2234
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 1: these guys are quick work. Yeah, they spend practices working

2235
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 1: on avoiding getting delayed, hands on them and a whole

2236
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 1: You know, a guy like McKenzie, you know, I think

2237
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 1: High Tower said it was impossible to do it to

2238
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, you know, as as just simple quick and

2239
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: you know a guy like mackenzie, he's not. I'm not

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Speaker 1: telling you he's Julian Edelman. But that's that's the skill

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01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 1: set is the short area, quickness and elusive guy. All Right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with another edition. We got picks tomorrow,

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01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:12,120
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